Fucking seriously, if this mining bullshit continues like this,

Just go buy a GTX 970 or R9 390 off ebay, they aren't power efficient enough for miners to buy.

>>382942128
just get an r9 390/380
you dont have to run everything on ultra and unless its over 50% performance increase youre wasting your money

>>382942128
Do you seriously not understand that the second a piece of hardware becomes less economical for miners that they will sell their used shit for pennies on ebay?

This is a good thing for us. Means cheaper hardware in the long run.

>>382942758
>wanting some card ran at 100%, 24/7 , probably about to die
nope

>>382942758
>wanting a GPU which ran 24/7 on full load for months
retard

>>382943146
this

Just don't buy graphics cards right now. Hurt them for catering to minecucks.

How does one buy crypto shit anyway?

>>382943467

There are 900 ching chong and ruskie exchanges. The trick is finding a good one.

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>>382943146
>>382943249

Your claims are nothing but FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt).

The cards are designed to run at full load for thousands upon thousands of hours, and even if a miner uses up 50% of the life of the card you'll never even come close to using the remaining 50%. If a GPU is going to fail it's going to do it early on in the life of the card. If it can make it through mining it will certainly make it through the usage of a typical video gamer.

But go ahead. Be a moron and buy new "just to be safe". Cheaper hardware for me.

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>>382944205

This happened to a friend of mine.

>Buy GTX760 from eBay
>Friend recieves, put in his comptuer
>2 weeks later it fails and dies
>He goes out and gets a 1060Ti, brand new, from shops because he now believes that everything sold online is destined to fail quickly.

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>>382943146
>>382943249
Do you see this? This is a 5 volt blower fan that you can find in a lot of blow-up Christmas decorations. My mom has snowman that has one of these in bottom of it. It runs at 100% all the time when power is supplied to it. My mom has had that snowman for about 20 years now and runs 24/7 for about 3 months out of the year from November through January.

This last year it finally gave out. That's about 5 years of total run time together. Out in the cold and rain and snow most of that time.

This is the part that is going to go bad on a mining GPU. The GPU itself is practically bullet-proof since almost all miners will run at default clock speeds or even undervolt their GPU to save electricity and lifespan.

The blower fan in reference GPU is probably a better quality fan than the cheap shit you find in a k-mart christmas decoration. And isn't out in the weather.

>>382944908
kek he was still in the return window. Did he at least get a refund?

>>382942128
>I'm giving up on wanting an upgrade and I will just switch to consoles for gaming and some shitty Linux laptop for work and office related bullshit.
no you wont.

lol fucking jerkoff. glad I live next to a microcenter. sucks for you. gpu prices right now do make me mad desu senpai. at least MC has open box deals.

>>382942474
>buying used hardware
No thanks, I've been burned enough times.

>>382942128
also, we need mining gpus now. that way it levels out the gaymen gpus. fuck off.

>>382945748
Buy the square trade warranty if you need a security blanket.

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>>382944205
MTBF is about 5-6 years of mixed use for a gpu.

>cuckminers being so jewish they keep spamming their "le undervolted le underclocked card is perfect pls buy mine after I use it 24/7 for years" meme
fuck off, >>>/biz/, go scam another board. /g/ and /v/ are already full of your shit

>>382945685

Nope, he threw it in the bin and bought the 1060 not long after that.

I asked him some days later what he's done with it and he tells me he's thrown it away.
>furious.dll
I could have taken that card and looked into it, see if I could repair it. But no, now it's rotting in some trash pile.

>>382945832
That is including the early failures, which any card used for mining will be past the point where you can expect manufacturing defects to lead to a failure.

GPUs are like hard drives. If they can last past a couple of hundred hours of use they will probably last nearly forever.

>>382945920
The cooler on it alone was resalable. Those will go for about $20 shipped sometimes.

>>382944205
t. miner looking to sell the cards he ran ragged

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>>382946012

Not unless those GPU's are Seagate-tier.

I had 3 Seagates die on me within a month, good times.

>>382946154

I know, but my friend knows literally nothing about computers, I had to come over and help him pick out the parts and build it for him, update drivers and install programs.

Not that I'm complaining, I actually enjoy doing that kind of stuff, it's just the fact that he threw the whole card away without even asking if I could look into it that tickles my nose hairs in the wrong way.

If I couldn't have fixed it, I could have atleast resold the cooler, like you say, or take it apart for spares later down the line.

>>382946158
Show me any data that says mining kills GPUs. I know you won't because you can't find it. Just a basic google search leads you to several threads where people say the chance of a mining card going bad is negligible.

It's just a /v/iddie theory made up by people who don't know anything about the technical side of things but get scared when they hear a GPU fan whirring at 100% speed. It's loud so it has to be hurting the poor little thing, right?

>>382946190
>I had 3 Seagates die on me within a month, good times.
That's exactly what I was getting at. If a hard drive is going to fail it will usually do it early on. If a drive has been running solid for a few months you can probably expect it to last the next decade.

>>382946558
>>382946190
I got a 1tb Seagate drive in my PC right now, it's been running for about 6 months. Hopefully it lasts.

>>382946369
>show me any data that proves that letting electronic devices running 24/7 without interruption will make their lifespam shorter

>>382945534
> a great product vs products with planned obsolescence

>>382946369
GPUs have souls, they have feelings. If you thought about it deeply, and channeled your spirit through the circuits of your PC, and really tried to understand it on a personal level, if you TRULY loved PC gaming, you would know too. I won't forgive people who treat them like trash, like nothing but tools for their own personal gain.

>>382946680

Well you may be out of luck, because 2 out of the 3 Seagates I had were the 1TB versions, and they were literally unplayable.

>>382946369
kek, dude really wear and tear doesnt break anything its your fault amirite

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>he fell for the wait meme

>>382946976
It's a fan and lump of silicon. It's going to take a long, long time to wear out.

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>mining
>against 2017 blockchain encryption
Literally more expensive for the electricity unless you live in rural china.

Also the amount of farmable crypto is negligible unless you own an acre-size mining farm full of literally millions of dollars in hardware, making the tradeoff questionable at best.

The people with both prerequisites number in the dozens and are likely losing money regardless.

Mining shortages are a meme.
You worried about this for nothing. Have a random /m/ pic as compensation.

>>382942128
Here's the joke: Prebuilts are more cost efficient now thanks to this fuck shit.

>>382946708
>>show me any data that proves that letting electronic devices running 24/7 without interruption will make their lifespam shorter
That's actually been a subject of debate for 50 years or longer now. The whole "should you turn your computer off at night?" debate.

So far the answers has been it is slightly better to turn off at night. 2nd best thing is to let it run 24/7. Worst thing is to power on and off several times during the day. I would say it's the same for GPU usage. voltage and temperature swings do more damage than being at 100% all of the time.

>>382947392
but how long until it all crashes and then prices are able to return to normal?

>>382947536
Notice the article says "quietly releases" for that motherboard. Manufacturers aren't supplying the cause of a shortage, they're creating it.
Probably due to ramping up production for holidays when they know they sell all their GPUs. Mining being related is just media bullshit.

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>>382947392
>he doesn't know about ETH
been livin' under a rock for the last year?

>>382942128
build a real gaming PC with a 1080 or better, their prices havent budged since miners are after all the console tier budget cards

>>382947725
>muh poorman's buttcoin
Ethereum is the biggest retard honeypot there is. Slightly more effective decryption to earn 1-2 more shekels from your literally burning GPUs until the founders short every retard in the game and run with their money.

>>382947475
nobody will buy your used 480, miningger

On the topic of virtual currency and mining, what is this mining for?

What are you doing when your computer runs through, decrypting things? What is it decrypting and for who?

>>382947949
Fucking 480 on Newegg for 739.99 USD, meanwhile, a prebuilt with the same card is $750

absolutely never ever

>>382947459
SOC and single board based systems will probably tip that back towards system builders in the not too distant future, but obviously only for the low end.

Mid range cards will hopefully come back down in price again soon, but it may require a half-generation for AMD and Nvidia to figure out some way to cripple cards for the miners without crippling them for gaming. Which may not even be possible now for AMD since the best drivers to use with their hardware are open source and on Linux where they wouldn't be able to remove functionality or nerf the hardware even if they wanted to since the community could simply reject the patches and/or fork.

>>382947949
never underestimate desperate poorfags

>>382948105
Honestly, if the market doesn't repair itself by Cyber Monday (which is what most people wait on if they don't buy right away), NVIDIA & AMD are going to take big hits in the dick.

>>382945534
Is your mom hot? What hes opinion on slow anal.

>>382948105
>Open sores is good, they said

>>382944205
Heat stress is no joke

And the CHIPS are designed to run thousands of hours, the cheap taiwanese crap they're placed in isn't

>>382942128
What's this mining bullshit I've seen on /v/ today?

>>382944205
what is electron migration?

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>>382948539
Up to twice as fast as the 'official' AMD supplied drivers, and way more stable to boot.

They even support Direct3D on GNU/Linux allowing for full speed legacy Windows applications.

>>382948638
Crypto currency mining. The earliest days of bitcoin it wasn't hard to just set your computer up to generate brand new coins in a couple of hours. With the amount of coins available though it's getting harder and harder to generate new coins. Thus "mining specific" cards have been popping up.

>>382948932
How are they generated? You literally just use your PC to make currency appear out of nothing? Wouldn't that cause inflation and such?

>>382948748
are there better open source amd drivers for windows? or is it purely a linux thing?

>>382948638

Basically a way to make money(cryptocurrency) by running software that solves some data bullshit. It's all the rage right now because prices of cryptocurrencys are actually good currently, so people are buying rigs made specifically for it in droves. It's raising the prices of certain graphics cards, too.

>>382949052
see
>>382949079

Some graphics cards were better than others at it. Bitcoin has a ceiling that hasn't been reached yet as well (it's going to come eventually though) but in the mean time, yes, it's creating new currency.

>>382943146
Video cards are designed to run at full load for extreme periods of time, as long as they aren't significantly overclocked it won't hurt the life of the card in the long run.

>>382948105
why would they want to cripple cards for miners? theyd be shooting themselves in the foot by removing demand for their products

>using energy to decrypt data sets to be given fractions of a internet coin backed by nothing is the answer to globalization

Are minners brain dead? What's the point?

>>382947949
Still haven't seen a reasonable argument why someone shouldn't buy one.

>>382942128
Pretty smart of them to take advantage of those mining retards and market a product to them.

>>382948696
Something that doesn't matter here.

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>have a 980
>haven't needed to upgrade my pc in two years
>won't need to upgrade for another few years
>not paying any attention to this mining shit whatsoever

>mon visage

>>382949446
It's like stocks, it's a speculative market. Most people aren't in it to "fite da joos" but rather they see what it's being traded for going up and up and want in to make a return.

>>382949052
No. There is a single unique thread of operations that every time it get solved, a new coin is generated. Everybody involved with the crypto currency track this progress in real time and everybody will write down that someone mined a coin. Each time it gets solved, a new harder operation gets generated. This will go on until it reaches its end, which means there are limited amounts for the currency

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i want pcbros to apologize to consoles right now.

>>382949573
>>not paying any attention to this mining shit whatsoever
You could use that GPU to nearly literally print money right now.

>>382949065
Linux-exclusive, in the past it might have been possible on Windows, but back then the open drivers were basically just a way to get a command line to show with no concern to gaming performance and Microsoft now is way more strict than they used to be about requiring drivers to be signed.

One possible bright spot the open drivers use a middleware layer called Gallium which is in effect a very low level graphics hardware API not all that different from Vulkan, the RadeonSI and Nine devs have actually talked about shifting their stacks over to run on top of a Vulkan driver and it seems it would be possible though there were a couple of hypothetical extensions they talked about needing. So in the future it might be possible to run a third-party OpenGL or Direct3D stack on top of Vulkan regardless of platform.

>>382949560
>run cards 24/7 for weeks (or months)
>electron migration doesn't matter

>>382949528
What if it's just a recolor or remodel?

>>382949643
explain

>>382949690
It doesn't. How long has your cable box or satellite receiver been running? How about your PC, laptop, and phone?

>>382949643
wrong
you'll be attached to a pool of miners
you'd be getting a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of "money"
even less now because all the kikes and newfags

1% of what flipping burgers will get you in profit

>>382949776
ETH value is currently more than the costs of electricity to run the card for most people.

>>382949621
I'm sorry that I won't be buying any of you because of your continued poor hardware.

>>382949438
Same reason they sell consumer cards, and workstation cards that are basically the same thing but with slightly different drivers and warranties.
Miners will pay $750 for a $250 card, so why not launch a line specifically for miners at a much higher MSRP?

>>382949856
Some money > no money at all.

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>>382949953
no worries friend, microsoft has you covered :)

>people actually buy second hand computer parts

What are you stupid? If it wasn't old and busted they wouldn't be selling it

>>382950026
You're an idiot.

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>>382950026

Poorfags exist, anon.

>>382950020
>killing desktop PC gaming was the plan all along

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>tfw 980 Ti

>>382944908
>1060ti
That doesn't exist

>>382950140
No matter how much money you have you should still buy used.

>>382946190
I've had a western digital blue drive die on me within a few months with virtually no usage.

>>382950140
Yes, and they (we) know better than to spend money on something of shit quality, so MORE money has to be spent to buy it again when it fucks up.

>>382950293

I meant 1050Ti, fuck me sideways.

>>382949813
They are not running at load 24/7 at temperatures above 80 degrees you fucking moron.

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>>382950026
>buy used workstation PC with rugged design and components built to last 500,000+ hours
vs
>buy POS new prebuilt consumer trash built from lowest-bidder chink crap that has a very good chance of not making it through the first two years of usage and dies right after the warranty runs out. Also worse performance in benchmarks.

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>>382944157
>>382943467
Wat? You just go to fucking localbitcoins you fucking idiots, then proceed to buy drugs.

>>382947392
>unless you live in rural china
Guess where miners have started springing up?

The good news is that those morons crash every market they enter into, and ETH is such a retarded investment it's just asking to crash.

>>382942128
>miners start buying up gaming products creating a shortage for actual gaming enthusiasts
>manufacturers respond by creating products specifically created for the purpose of mining, therefore diverting the miners buying gamer gear to the new mining gear
>this is somehow bad

tell me again how the free market doesnt fix it self

>>382944205
i burned out my current card in like 3 years. it's still limping along but i'm getting fucked up graphical glitches if i play for too long

>>382950316

I've had my £80 GTX760 used for over a year now, and I have no problems with it.
I don't need to spend huge amounts of money on the latest graphics card so I can play >muh 4k 60fps. I don't care. As long as it plays stable 60fps on my 1660x1040 monitor, I'm set, and for now, the 760 is doing fine.

>>382950494
Your cable or satellite box is very likely running at 100% load most of the time. The internal temp is likely higher than 80 c.

Know what you are talking about before commenting any further.

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>>382942128
Can someone give me the quick rundown on this mining craze that's resurfacing?

I am waiting for ETH to move to PoS and then the entire mining community undercuts each other trying to sells their losses and we get like 100 dollars 580s.

>>382950754
CIA niggers and Intel kikes pushing ETH

>>382950691
Overclocking?

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>>382950665
Also

>mfw I monitor all threads when /v/ brings up anything related to crypto currency

Listening in on you retards try and figure this shit out is one of the greatest pleasures I derive from browsing this shit.

>>382950609
Workstation GPUs are actually the same hardware as the consumer parts though.
In fact they're often the parts that can't pass QA for gaming where higher peak performance is required, but are fine for workstation where a constant predictable workload at a lower clock speed is preferable.
What you're paying for with the workstation premium isn't better hardware, its better reliability and actually good 24/7 tech support.

>>382950754
Bitcoin is up and normies noticed, a new cryptocurrency has sprung up (etherium) and people are trying to get in on the ground floor despite it being used for absolutely NOTHING. Basically magic internet money is in a boom right now. The bust is gonna be fun.

>>382950754
shit like this

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/05/bitcoin-could-nearly-double-and-reach-5000-soon-says-standpoint-research.html

>>382942128
>If people keep making hardware for a consumer base that happens to share my platform I'm going to switch to an inferior platform because I'm autistic
Fine by me retard, you won't be missed

>>382950828
nope, but it does regularly get over 100 degrees in the summer where i live so that probably doesnt help

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>student
>expensive graphics card is finally dying
>this shit happens

>>382942474
the latter is going for close to $400 though

>>382950990
Never understood the hubbub of BTC
>Paying for porn in decimals of currency instead of real numbers
Seems real annoying.

>>382950786
might happen because of the new generation cards that are coming out soon and the mining-specific cards boast more hashes to power, but the community is jewish as all fuck and they'd be selling their raggedy shit to each other most likely

>TFW been a neet for 5 years and have been mining cryptocurrency all this time.
>it's payed for all my necessities and mining servers

So good

Get in if you can, once you're on a roll you can't stop, it just doesn't stop

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>>382944205
So kid what you're saying is it's ok to buy from some miner who puts at least 10k hours on a GPU? Min time usually to get money back from card purchase assuming at the current ether rates. And that's just if they want to break even.

Ya you're fucking retarded.

>>382951191
It's only really used for drug deals and speculative investment.

>>382951124
Should not make a difference as long as the GPU temp is low. Excessive humidity in the air may be a problem.

>>382950989
Wasn't talking about GPUs anywhere in that post. Maybe, just maybe you should read entire posts before setting fingers to keyboard.

>>382951271
Isn't it inefficient? Like the cost of electricity outweighs the mined btc. I can only imagine it being worth it if you have a solar farm or some shit. Just dont see how you can print money otherwise

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>>382950990
>>382951191
>bitcoin is used for nothing

Yeah, fucking google shit sometimes, kek.

https://www.wired.com/2015/08/crackdowns-havent-stopped-dark-webs-100m-yearly-drug-sales/


https://www.wired.com/2015/08/crackdowns-havent-stopped-dark-webs-100m-yearly-drug-sales/

This is why it has value, kiddos. If you don't buy drugs, don't buy bitcoin. Simple as that.

If you do buy drugs, and you're still buying off street dealers like a fool, then up your game.

>>382951310
10,000 hours is just fine.

How does one access the Dark Web?

>>382951514
No, bitcoin is used for drug deals, literally even my 65 year old dad knows that.

I was talking about ETHERIUM you retarded raisin fucker. That's the hot new crypto currency that last time I checked was not accepted anywhere and had no current use.

>>382951514
>drugs/porn/illegal porn/assassinations
Literally NOTHING. It's the currency of degenerates

>>382951628
seriously google it. but btw, "dark web" is a blanket term.

>>382951615
Good luck with that. 10k hours with a gpu that's probably in a poorly ventilated area and has the cheapest PSU possible to make the most profit.

>>382951795
>10k hours with a gpu that's probably in a poorly ventilated area and has the cheapest PSU possible

Still won't even make much of a difference as long as the temp is low.
>cheapest PSU possible
oh lord you're not one of those "clean power" idiots are you?

>>382947772
oh and you think you are the first one who had this idea?
are you fucking dumb?

Get a top-end Nvidia GPU - 1080 upwards weren't affected.

>>382951917
Yes they are fucking idiot. Why are you lying?

>>382951510
"5 years" ago it would have been profitable
not so much now unless you properly invest, then it's cheaper and easier to just outright buy some coin instead of generating your own

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>>382951628
You literally google tor browser and you're connected.

No, there's not any super secret UFO government shit out there. Most of it is just garbage.
No, you cannot hire hitmen or any of that shit that Fox News spun up.

No, there are no super secret cool websites in the dark web.

All of it is used for fucking drugs, and people living in countries with restricted access to the internet.

>>382951662
>thinks illegal assassinations actually happen

The fuck is wrong with porn and drugs, faggot.

>>382951659
>I was talking about ETHERIUM you retarded raisin fucker.

>mfw the most popular dark net market, Alpha Bay, has accepted Etherium for months

And this is why I love this threads.

>>382949980
Why dont miners buy workstation cards then??

>>382952070
>ETH is actually accepted somewhere now.

Well I stand corrected. It wasn't the last I checked but I apologize for calling you a raisin fucker.

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>>382952070
Correction. I'm sure you can find contact with a hitman over Tor Browser. None of you guys ever will, though. All popular dark net marketplaces have banned that shit. Don't go in there thinking you'll be able to fucking browse listings for hitmen like a fucking retard.

>>382951510
It actually doesn't. You just need to mine more than you use.

But then again, I only eat rice and beans and go out for pizza once a week.

You just need to live a simple life and it practically pays you to be a loser neet
>>382952102
High cost with little benefit

>>382951503
>whole thread about GPUs
>but I'm not talking about GPUs!

What I said applies to workstation stuff in general. CPUs, hard drives, network hardware, etc.
Its often not that much better than the general purpose stuff, in fact sometimes its worse (at least for gaming).
You're mainly paying to get 99.999% reliability and somebody within the company who will answer your calls at 2am when you're pissed off about a bug.

>just bought a used asus strix 1080 for $400
>sold my r9 290 for $330

I only paid $270 for the r9 290, and that was 3.5 years ago.

>>382951889
Just factually wrong, kid. Under controlled conditions sure. Some miner who has a room at like 1000 degrees, No.

So what the fuck is going on? What's mining? Why is this affecting gpus and why does power efficiency matter?

>>382952296
sheeet i might sell my 290

is that USD?

thats like $500

>>382943146
>>382943249
I used my 6970 for mining back in... 2011 or so, ran it 24/7 for 7-8 months.

The card is STILL in my PC, and it is still working perfectly fine. I did change the shit blower cooler to an aftermarket one back in 2011 (one of those big Scythes), but that's not necessarily better because the VRMs run hotter that way. That's 6 and a half years the card has been running 24/7, of which it spent about a year at max load if I count in the gaming time as well.

As long as the card did not have major QA problems (which gets weeded out a few months after launch), it should function properly for years.

>>382952216
I mean you could probably find some gangbanger willing to waste some dude for you pretty easy on most drug sites. It's not like Agent 47 is an accurate representation of hitmen. Normally they're just some criminal willing to kill anyways who wants some extra money/street cred.

>>382952454
I dont know how mining works but basically it gives you BTC at the exchange of electricity. It's affecting GPUs because miners are buying stocks of em and it's raising prices. Power efficiency matters because it reduces your bill for electricity I assume.

>>382952461
Yep, check the completed listings on ebay to see how much they are going for.
Mine was a Sapphire Tri-X OC which has been one of the higher priced ones.

>>382952304
>kid
If you have to start calling someone a kid on here you've basically admitted you have no argument. It doesn't matter if the room is roasting as long as the GPU itself (and in this case I mean the actual processor part) is cool. The rest of the card components are designed to operate in high ambient temperatures like the inside of a PC. You're getting your panties in a wad over nothing.

>>382942128
Why are you angry about this?
It's good that they are making cards focused on mining now. Leaves the "normal" cards for other people.

>>382952102
The thing that makes workstation cards expensive, namely the tech support doesn't matter to miners because the kind of distributing computing they're doing doesn't depend on a single card. If they've burned one up they toss it and pop in another one.

Plus workstation card warranties don't cover running full tilt 24/7 doing dedicated compute in a hot environment. The GPU companies want to sell dedicated compute hardware for that market which is again even more expensive.

>>382942128
i think you retards are forgetting the other side of this

shouldnt all these extra customers help computer hardware manufacturers develop even better hardware?

and it should bounce back soon as the market grows to meet demand, in fact this etherium bitcoin shit bubble will probably burst before that even really begins to take effect, so maybe we'll see even lower prices relative to the power than we would have had, once that happens

rite?

>>382952848
https://youtu.be/P_oHQPWRWnQ

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>>382952519
EXTREMELY slim chance that anybody that isn't directly connected to a criminal network themselves will be able to find the onion links for those "drug websites".

The first successful dark net market, Silk Road, had an out right ban on that, followed with a ban on guns.

Every single market place since then that publicly advertises themselves (literally every single one, BMR, Agora, Evolution, AlphaBay, Hansa, Dream Market, DHL, SR2 Hansa,) have banned any type of listings for those types of things. I'd say about 75% of them have banned gun sales too, with good reason. (Fucking kek at the retards who try and buy guns off DNM's, the alphabet agencies literally only honey pot as vendors for guns, and lethal narcotics such as fenatyl, following the recent opioid overdose epidemic)

There is nothing that attracts law enforcement like literal death. They don't give a fuck about all the people wanting to buy weed n shit.

t. Someone who has actually used the the dark web for its intended purpose for 5+ years. I fucking kek when ignorants come out of the wood works to claim that bitcoin will die. 100K+ spent and a lot of money made from that shit.

But seriously, /v/ as well as /g/ should stop talking about the "deep web" and its associated offerings.The shit I read on here is fucking laughable. It's just a lot of romanticizing from ignorant fucks who literally are not capable of googling "Tor browser download". It's not an interesting place.

>>382953165
Then how the fuck do I access super risqué porn?

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>>382953165
Edit: bitcoin probably will die when the fork comes in August.

another cryptocurrency will take its place :^)

>>382952454
CIA and chink kike bankers, wasting computer power and electricity on bloated equation solving, gpus have high hash rates and power efficiency matters because projected profit = something about hash rate to power consumption - power consumption

>>382952659
Again factual wrong kiddo. This information is available from the manufacturer. Enjoy summer.

>>382953165
Do you even fucking remember how DPR got busted? It was because he contacted a guy who had no listings of any hitman services and asked him for help trying to kill someone. You wouldn't have to search for hitmen on drug marketplaces to find a hitman, you just find someone with clear connections to some gang or something in the area you want, then contact them and talk about it. They refuse to help you, try again with someone else. They turn out to be a fed, become DPR's new bunkmate.

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>>382953273
Super risque porn is super abundant. I've never looked for porn on the dark net so I don't know how to direct you, but it's there. Just gotta search around enough. Maybe hit up some onion forums.


Better not be CP you're looking for, faggot.

No a Amerifat, can't you guys go to your local PC related store and buy it there?

>>382953273
Assuming you just want really weird and kinky stuff, private trackers, imageboards, etc.

If you want CP, I got no clue where the sick fucks who make that stuff meet up and share it. Probably through some pedo grapevine or something.

>>382947392
Hey /m/ fag is gundam thunderbolt any good

>>382942128
if you are in the eu you can get cheap cards from different eu countries other than yours.
for example im in finland but i really mostly buy stuff from the german amazon. managed to snag a
rx 580 for 240 yurodosh just 3 weeks ago.

>>382953430
>This information is available from the manufacturer.
Post it. It will be something about keeping the room well ventilated so the GPU won't get too hot.

Do you know what is good for ventilating a room? FANS. Like the kind that are built into the damned thing to begin with.

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>>382953463
DPR was an ambitious man with a vision. Too bad he was a fucking idiot, gotta grant him some credit for setting off the surge of dark net markets though.

But yes, he was a complete fucking buffoon, which was somewhat surprising to me. I read the whole story and I was in fucking awe about how many OpSec mistakes this dude made. He'd still be out today if he didn't fall for the bait.

But yeah, that is a prominent story but no one actually goes and buys a hitman on dark net markets. Like I said, I'm sure you can find contacts for it, but it won't be on the places that 99.999% of people will be browsing.

>mfw he was fucking caught at the library with his fucking Tails USB connected while he was on the fucking Silk Road administrator page
>not mentioning the entire shitshow in which he fell for fake threats against the marketplace multiple times

Fucking kek

>>382953729
Just real amateur porn would be good. I don't want to get arrested

>>382953510
>Posts a picture of pure moa when talking about CP. Apologize

Should i just buy a 1050 ti till 1060s are back?

I got 16gb ram already and an i5

>Biostar
The crypto fags can have it.

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>tfw 1050tis are still dirt cheap
Feels good being a budgetfag.

>>382953792

not him but yeah, check that shit out now

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>>382953932

Oh yeah not saying trying to hire a hitman is anything remotely close to safe/smart, just that anyone stupid enough to try could probably do it fairly easily. Of course you'd probably just end up paying to get some guys cousin arrested (assuming he even does anything at all, I remember DPR got ripped off by some "hell's angels" who just took a hundred thousand from him and vanished).


Also:
>He was fucking warned about the vulnerability the FBI used to track him down
>The guy offered to help him fix it
>He declined

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>>382953273
>>382953510
>>382953729

>>382954469
How does one become a hit man?

Asking out of curiosity and no other reasons. Leave me alone FBI

>>382953960
Real amateur stuff can actually be dangerous for that. You get some 16 year old who looks old for her age and that's technically CP. In and of itself it's not dangerous because nobody's gonna be checking on people who watch amateur porn but if for some reason your computer gets into fed hands and that video/image is in their database you're fucked my friend.

>>382954347
How's the 1050 hold up on shit like new vegas and gtav

>>382954646
You offer someone in person to kill someone that's blackmailing them/owes them money/anything else worth killing over. You do it well. You gain a reputation amongst very limited people. You grow as any illegal business would from there: By very selective word of mouth.

>>382954819
Fine.

>>382954819
Oh I haven't bought it yet, but at least it hadn't jumped to a ridiculous price yet.

>Go to local Fry's Electronics.
>Perusing the video cards.
>Aisle is basically empty.
>Big sign says "All sales final on Video Cards."
>Ask guy working the area.
>"They keep saying it's the data miners, but honestly, they just arn't sending us more then a few dozen cards a week. Wait for the whole data mining crazy to die down in a bit. "

Pretty sure it's a fake shortage anons.

>tfw still using a gtx780

>>382954857
Define fine

>>382954646
Be stupid. A gun helps but a knife, club, or bare hands can work too. You go to someone who wants someone dead and is immoral enough to pay for it. You somehow manage to do it, escape, and avoid being arrested. Then you do it again until you've grown enough of a reputation people come looking for you. Then you get arrested.

I'm pretty sure the only real way hitmen stay loose is by working exclusively for a larger organization. So I guess you have to join a gang and do enough violent shit they send you out to whack people.

>>382949446
>I don't understand it so it must be pointless
I can't believe people are still confused about cryptos (or know nothing at all about them).
Is 1000%-5000% increase in value over 6 months not good enough to make people want to actually read up on something? Why do people hate free money?

$634 for 1080ti a gud deal?

>every fucking viable card is $400+

When will they go down to reasonable rates again? 2 years? 3?

>>382955482
Crypto-currency is essentially a payment for giving up your PC's processing power for calculations.
It's fake payment that retards put a ton of value on. All that has to happen is everyone says "No, I don't accept bitcoin" and they're immediately worthless. It's a level of stupid that I cannot express in words, because the only way you actually can value crypto is by finding an idiot who will accept them for something that has a value in the standard economy.

>>382955781
They'll either go down soon after the bubble bursts, or never.

Who else just picked up a dirt cheap 1050 ti?

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>>382955482
>1000%-5000% increase in value over 6 months
yeah, if you shill like a madman and get the dumb normies to prop it up

>>382955482
Do you want to hear a story about tulips anon?

>>382955881
>"No, I don't accept bitcoin" and they're immediately worthless

Worthless to some, valuable to others. It will have a value because the transactions you make with them are obscured, and much harder to trace, which is valuable to millions of people actually.

Have never had trouble buying or selling bitcoin, it is in high demand. Also, we are not trying to use it at the restaurant or for groceries you fucking imbecile. Bitcoin transactions are for a niche crowd, but this crowd will literally exist as long as human desire exists.

>>382955881
You are literally describing any monetary system. USD for example is a truly worthless form of currency backed by nothing. It only has value because other people will except it for goods/services. The difference is you know for a fact that USD will decrease in value over time.

>>382955482
>free money.
>had to give up electricity, bandwith, and time.
>Have to cover cost of equipment that breaks down because over clocking/ and 24/7 use.
>Have to spend time that could be used elsewhere just trying to sell/trade the things.
>Have to spend all that time shilling for normies.
>Still have to cover your living expenses..
It's not free anon. Someone is pay for things, or you don't value your time much. How long, how many hours did you invest in getting a bit coin?

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FUCKING MINERS
I know this is a reddit link, but reading this helps me sleep better at night:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/6j9hwf/bought_too_many_gpus_delimma/

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>>382946190
>>382946680
>Seagate
>>382950312
>WD
HAH

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>>382956769
You're not going to get through to him, I don't even think he knows what fiat money is.

It's used because people value it and accept it.

People value and accept bitcoin. I've literally been listening to retards on this board shout "LOL CRYPTOCURRENCY IS FAKE MONIES GONNA BE DED" for fucking years. The money I have with me and in the bank were procured from bitcoin is pretty fucking real to me.

>>382942128
has a console fag I don't undestand what's happening here. can someone explain?
what is this mining shit

>>382952216
I want to hire a shadowrunner.

>>382956149
It's manipulated just like any market. The fact is, anyone could have bought etherium for $8 a coin 6 months back. And it's currently worth over $250, highs were $400. Call it whatever you want, but there's no other market that has returns like that.

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>>382942128
>mining bitcoin
>buy ton of GPU

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>all these anons claim to have made bundles from bitcoin.
>None of them ever post any real, verifiable proof of it.

I keep hearing about this cryptocurrency shit, but I've yet to meet anyone who has ever actually been able to prove to me they did anything with it. It's always second-hand stories and "I know a guy who..."

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>>382957113
in before some retard chimes in with "BUT FIAT C-C-CURRENCY IS BACKED BY OUR GUBBERMENTS

Sure, but in the end, fiat money is not backed by a physical commodity just like bitcoin is. The value of the currency is derived between supply and demand.

Guess what you fucking retards? The bitcoin network IS regulated and governed by the network of bitcoin operators who use the same algorithms and have agreed to set the supply cap at 21 million. The value of bitcoin is derived between supply and demand, not what it "is", just like the fucking dollars in your god damned pocket.

My fucking god how are some people willingly this stupid? Fucking take some shitty ass introduction to economics at your local community college so you have a fucking grasp on the world around you, shit.


>>382957445

>He thinks that people who buy drugs off the dark web are going to willingly admit to it

Jesus fuck you people are this stupid.

Let this thread die

>>382957559
>He thinks that people who buy drugs off the dark web are going to willingly admit to it

Or ya know, people who sold it for USD could post some sort of time-stamp/verifiable thing that proves they did it. You make is sound as if the only people who would want/use bitcoins are criminals/scum that should be arrested for owning it, because they'll just use it to commit atrocities against humans.

>>382956862
Took a few minutes to buy one a year back for around 600. I don't mine.

>>382955090
nu vegas is an old ass game, it'll run perfectly. GTAV can run 60fps with settings turned to mid or low

>>382950754
I'm $50k up since march, even after the "crash". That is all I care about.

>>382957445
That's because you're on a video game board anon. Try getting information for yourself for once. I can post a blockfolio screenshot or a bittrex account wallet, but you're not going to believe anything I post, so just go figure shit out yourself.

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> You make is sound as if the only people who would want/use bitcoins are criminals/scum that should be arrested for owning it, because they'll just use it to commit atrocities against humans.

Oh anon, you are cute :^)

I never implied that they were, but let me fucking tell you something kiddo, the majority of crypto currency IS used for money laundering and drugs. I don't think people should be in jail for recreational drug usage, but I'm just stating the facts, 75%+ of BTC trade volume are for illicit purposes.

Go on localbitcoins, go check out the sellers. about 40% of those sellers are laundering their cash out slowly from dark net market gains. 60% probably own legitimate mining operations, who then sell to buyers who are going to obtain items that are illegal in their country of residence

If you retards actually think that the bitcoin crowd is trying to fucking replace USD or some shit, fucking kill yourselves.

Crypocurrency = Drugs, tax evasion, asset hiding.

I'm all for it, I'm just being realistic about the nature of bitcoin.

>>382958406
I think it just proves computers were a mistake.

>>382944205
>If a GPU is going to fail it's going to do it early on in the life of the card.
That's bullshit and you're a fucking idiot.

>even if a miner uses up 50% of the life of the card
Even you know you're wrong.

>>382945534
old things (80's / 90's ) run for decades without problems, new shit breaks all the time

>>382955741
Better than what I saw a couple weeks ago.

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>>382955051
Its not. Even in Australia shit is fucked.
Prices went from 400 for an amd card to 700 over night due to the shortages.

ALL I WANT TO DO IS PLAY VIDYA BUT FUCKING MINERS WONT LET ME.

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>>382958569
>computers
>mistake

..But how do we play our vidya anon? ;_;

>>382942128
Just get a 1080?

I have decided to go for a full pc bar a GPU this friday, hoping the prices will normalize again. i5-7600, 8 gigs of ram etc. Otherwise, just buy a gtx 1060 or rx 570 in 2-3 months. What's your opinion on how fast the prices will return?

>>382959521
>hoping the prices will normalize again
you fucking wish
just get the monoprice prebuilt and save like $400

>>382959521
>8 gigs of ram
why

>>382959726
I dont feel like I need more, and less might be slightly unoptimal.

>>382959863
8 gigs is great now I'm not sure what hes getting at.

>>382959863
Not that anon but I'm also going to recommend that you go with 16 gb DDR5. Shit is so cheap. Yes, 8 GB will be fine for games, but you never know when you'll need to run multiple processes on your computer. You might obtain the desire to run virtual machines and shit on your computer, you would be limited by RAM.

8 GB Ram is sufficient, but 16 GB guarantees that you'll be dead set for running pretty much all non server related computing processes concurrently.

someone actually paid 400€ for my 980 ti
retards gonna retard

>>382960480
Edit: DDR4. Was thinking of GDDR5 when I wrote that. fug.

>>382957101
>No one knows about Hitachi
Feels pretty good.

>>382942128
What is mining?

>>382960784
They make good vibrators desu

>>382960950
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Bitcoin+Mining

>>382961438
Suspicious as fuck link

>>382945748
Really? I recently bought a used gtx 1060 6gb (msi armor edition) for $150. Bought a gtx 960 4gb 6 months ago for $120 for my brother's pc. The R9 280 3gb that I had before the 1060 I also bought off CL 3 years ago for $100 and sold it through CL for $120. I've also bought SOP coolers, keyboards and a pretty nice Creative Labs sound card that I picked up for $35. Not a single problem to date other than a slight gpu sag on the 1060

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>>382961643
>browses /v/
>probably goes on other websites a lot
>has never had a condescending ass poster give a "let me google that for you" link to him for asking a dumb ass question

Are you new to the internet?

>>382950665
>try to buy buttcoins
>oh sure we can turn your 20 buck into virtual funbucks
>by the way, transaction fee is 80 bitcoins plus tip

Nice system you got there

>>382961438
Good call anon I got a virus :(

>>382944205
The fan bearings will be dry or near to it at the very least. They do not last long in those environments.

>>382945534
>The motor in that is different from the motor in GPUs
They are both fans but they are different.

>>382961781
That's an elaborate pitch to make me click it.

>>382961769
>SOP
Meant to say AIO. Now all you fucks will know I am phoneposting.

Makes me wonder if I could sucker some miningfag into buying my R9 Fury for $400+.
It's probably pretty shit at it, wonder if I could upsell.

If you analize the situation it's fucking hilarious.

For literally 2 years /v/ recommended waiting for Pascal to upgrade your gpu. Now its recommending to wait for the cryptocurrencies market to crash and then upgrade. If anyone takes any of the advice you faggots spout seriously you never are gonna upgrade your GPU.

Thanks the heavens I didn't listen to anything you faggots said and upgraded my gpu to a 980 when I had the chance. It's so fucking funny watching you faggots rage because you can't get a sale on Pascal hahahaha get rekt retards.

>>382945534
You don't know shit. Having to blow really hot air is the problem. Not being cold.

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>>382961789
What are you talking about? Obviously the sellers have to gain something from the transaction to...you know, make money. You are buying bitcoin at slightly above the actual value, which is fair considering you have currency that is nearly untraceable ( I say untraceable because through highly dedicated efforts over long periods of time, you can still get caught...but unless you're a drug kingpin laundering money by the millions, which you shouldn't do at all, do that shit slow, or if you're a big shot C.E.O that is committing tax/asset evasion, no agency is going to do a block chain analysis on you. )

Like what was previously posted, this shit is for a niche group of people using it for specific purposes. If you don't know what you're using it for, or you want to buy some just to buy some, you probably shouldn't buy any. It's a hassle anyways when bitcoin drops and you're just about to buy some shit, stick with your euros or us dollaroos or whatever the fuck currency you have. If I'm buying some PC parts for 600 dollars, including the fees after local bitcoins it'd probably be about 630 total.

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>>382962315
>Tfw got a 1070 a week before all this mining shit

>>382942128
Buy a prebuilt, no really if you look around for sales you can get very good deals.

>>382962315
What reason is there to upgrade your gpu? To play the latest ubishit open world crap?

>>382961789
use exchanges that accept fiat, retardo, instead of opting for the uber jew option. Commisions are about 0.2%, which is far better than most ordinary brokers.

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>>382946558
>mfw my seagate died 2 weeks after the warranty.

>>382962698
>use exchanges that accept fiat

Like?

>>382962686
To play indies :')

>>382945748
Bought a video card off ebay once and it didn't work, was lucky the guy was a good dude and accepted the return.

>>382961789
Also

>trying to buy twenty dollars of bitcoin
>transaction fee 80 bitcoins


The fuck are you even trying to buy 20 dollars (0.0050 bitcoin) for anyways

80 bitcoins is fucking 200k USD nigger. Don't know why I'm replying to bait.

>>382962782
>Seagate
>SnK
wew

>>382962315
wait for vega bro :)

>>382951126
Get a GTX 1050. Miners dont bother with that shit.

>>382962536
Was seeing 1070s going for as low as $340 last holiday season, thought they'll be around $300 by now. Fuck me.

>>382962979
>Miners buy RX480/580 so low supply, high price
>Some miners reneged to 470 and 460, they also deplete the supply and increase the price
>A small amount switch to nvidia or lower end cards, depleting those supply too
>Most users buy gpu less used by miners so demand is also high
Still fucked

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>>382958406

>tax evasion
>bad

>>382962810
I use kraken, but I heard verification times nowadays are a nightmare (more than a month). I think bitstamp accepts fiat transfers, and of course coinbase, but a lot of people says the commisions of the latter are terrible. Just google something like "crypto exchanges bitcoin fiat" and you'll get a comprehensive list.

>>382962978
Forgot that one haha

>>382942128
this is good because now normal GPU's will go back down in price

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>>382942128
>Nocoiners

>>382963587
>>Nocoiners
Just wait, that will happen to you too.

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>>382963587
>I'm too stupid to understand how technology and currency works
>Bitcoin is a meme

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>>382960784
>bought an used 1tb Hitachi with 7000 hours clocked
>2 years later and it's still kicking
>mfw
Fucking glad I browse /g/

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>all these nocoiners

Enjoy your poverty

>>382963097
Yeah I am in the same boat, now faggots are selling used 1070's on craigslist for $700.

>>382958406
Taxation is theft Anon.

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>>382965080
My nigga

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>>382942128
What is crypto currency? Why does it even matter if someone mines it? I have never heard of this stuff til recently when anons began bitching about it affecting graphics cards somehow. What in the world is this supposed to be?

>>382966106
>What in the world is this supposed to be?
The internet in 1994.

>>382966106
Just money made by ancaps who hate taxes.

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>>382966106
http://coinmarketcap.com/

>>382966106
niggas that are buying drugs online.