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Anyone tell me if the slog of nothing patches between Stormblood

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Anyone tell me if the slog of nothing patches between Stormblood and Heavensward is as dull and mind-numbing as the trudge between vanilla FF14 and Heavensward?

Shit wore me out and I don't know if I can take it again.
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>>382923148
It's going to be the exact same thing.
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>>382924129
Fucking great.

Are the fetch quests stringing between Dungeons at least interesting? Do we find all the missing Scions, like qt monk girl?
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>>382924354
The worst quest have been fixed, in a sense that you don't do idiotic tasks. But instead it's relevant to the story
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>>382923148

It's nowhere near as bad.
More independent duties, less mandatory 8 man content and less mandatory dungeons.
A lot of it is just "Go here to watch story"
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I'm a fucking geometry dropout. Is the trick to Susano knockback just making the most right triangle out of you, Susano and the Thunderhead's positions?
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>>382925421

Nigga it's not difficult at all. Stop being a brainlet.

>Is the thundercloud directly behind or in front of Susano?

>If yes move to the top left or top right depending on where it is
>If no then move wherethefuckever else just don't overlap with the party
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>>382925421
Yes but the triangle has to be formed after you're knocked back.

If a cloud spawns directly behindor in front of susano (the trickiest position), you go to his side, get knocked back to the side and walk back. The thunderhead will leave its aoe in the place you got knocked back to.
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Anyone got the pdf?
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>didn't have any problems all through EA and the first two weeks
>omega patch drops
>8/10 times I go into a trial or dungeon I get disconnected
>not even an instant disconnect just get stuck for five minutes unable to do anything but wait or hard reset

Was looking forward to getting Monk to 70 since I have the next three days off but guess that isn't happening. Thanks Yoshi.
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No, I'm currently going through them and I'm pleasantly surprised, I didn't feel any drop in quality. I hated the part between 2.0 and HW with a passion so I know what you are feeling.
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>Omega "raid" is just four glorified trials
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>>382926748
Good, fuck trash mobs in normal 8man raids.
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>>382926748
>Omega is arguably easier than HM Susano and Lakshmi
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>>382926964
It's not even arugably, it just is.
Had one wipe where we all got blown out of the ring at v4
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>>382928036
I thought they were going to bring midcore content in SB... I guess it's just EX primals again...
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>want to farm susan for second job
>all the PF are clear/learning with 314 minilevel
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>>382923148
>you will never serve the proud garlean empire
>you will never learn the art of gunblade combat
>you will never lead an army and conquest savage territories
>you will never exterminate beast tribes and use their gods as batteries for allagan equipment
>you will never kill nunhs in front of their degenerate family and use his wife-daughters as sex slaves to increase your army's morale
>you will never be free to rape any highlander girl you want, slowly break their pride as you feel their bodies abandoning any hope of freedom and their pussies lusting for your superior ceruleum-powered dick
>you will never drink coffee from a thermocoil boilmaster created with superior garlean technology, crafted by by the great Tribunus Nero himself
why even sub
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>>382929019

>join farm group with ilvl 314 min
>the group is still shit but people think that having a higher ilvl will somehow make them not shit

Glad I got my SAM weapon on like my sixth clear and never touched Susan EX again.
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The story is a lot better and actually deals with all the problems that would show up after tearing down a theocracy and big sweeping societal changes
The worst part is the WoDs, their concept is good but their story gets rushed and they are under utilized, blame all the jump potion shitters that would cry about feeling left out because they don't know who those characters are if they keep them around as recurring antagonists
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>>382929151
>>you will never drink coffee from a thermocoil boilmaster created with superior garlean technology, crafted by by the great Tribunus Nero himself
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>>382929482
Got weapon on my second go at Susanoo.
Sadly Lakshimi takes longer and is way more boring as nothing happens and all failures are just someone not pressing the fucking button.
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>>382929783
that was wedge's invention you lorelet
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PvP is so fucking boring. Why does this have to be the best way to level a DPS job?
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>best girl is in game
>looks like felicia day with downs
Why
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>>382929897
because the game is oversaturated with dps and tanks/healers arent satisfying enough for people.
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>>382929897
Punishment for being the least useful role of any party.
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>>382929889
that's why you will never drink from one crafted by Nero
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>>382930003
>>382930025
But I already leveled a healer. I just want to have some fun on RDM now.
Fuck, I'd even prefer more PotD to this. I wish SE had put out the new deepest dungeon initially.
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>Xaela and Raen are literally identical except for colouring
I wish they were as different like how Midlander and Highlanders are.
I'd play a cute smol lizardboy.
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>>382923148
No, hw patch story was engaging.
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>>382929962
Not bad tbqh.
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>when a dragoonbro gives you the tether of friendship
every dragoon i've seen so far has been excellent, too bad they're probably in the shed
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>>382929897
PVP is the only place MCH is tolerable now
>over extend a little bit to bait a sam into chasing you
>unload on him while running back as he chases you in vain and throws out his shockwave
>blank him away if he tries to sprint towards you, heavy him if he decides to run away
It's always a sam, they're the only ones dumb enough to play a melee in pvp
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>>382930232
ss cancer
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>>382930137
>not using your easy and free story exp for a dps

People like you deserve to suffer for being retarded.
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>>382930420

The tether from DRG erupts from their crotch and into the crotch/womb of the other player too.
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>>382930232
Lizard boys should be more defined muscular bishonen bait not trap trash
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>>382930517

>SAM not using their *teleports to you and cuts you in half* skill to close the distance and then bursting you down before you can escape

Not doubting your skill senpai since 95% of people in PvP are shitters just trying to level, but you've been fighting some shitty SAMs.
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>>382930232
>literally identical except for colouring
Same for every non-hyur race in the game. Shit is just plain lazy.
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>>382930420
>shinryu because want to show friend.
>other dragoon is new level 70 so w/e
>Doesn't use battle litany or mirage dive.
>when I tether with him he keeps running away.
>Literally me chasing him around the field while shinryu is blasting away.
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>>382930420
>probably in the shed
>lowest DPS
>class mechanic that takes 90s to build up and you can lose all your progress on a phase change

lmao
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>>382930795
If SE would introduce one elf race to look like that jailbait elf mch from HW (huyr with elf ears) so many mroe players would change to elf.
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>drg tether is literally a prison bitch asking to hold your pocket
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>>382931429
>half Elezen half Hyur race introduced
It would kill both the Midlander and Elezen population.
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>>382931267

>be SAM
>tank pulls boss
>DRG goes crazy with his opener in the split second the battle starts
>slowly swagger up
>slowly do my speed combo
>slowly apply my dot and unlock seals
>DRG still pressing buttons like a mad man and slowly climbing the enmity list
>preparations complete
>unleash big dick Midare Setsugekka
>instantly jump to number 2 on the list and stay there the whole fight
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>>382923148
>the slog of nothing patches between Stormblood and Heavensward is as dull and mind-numbing as the trudge between vanilla FF14 and Heavensward?
it's a fair bit better

We get to fight a big evil, deal with an extra dimensional conspiracy and summon Allagan technology to deal with the most dangerous primal since Bahamut
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>>382931634
Bots will keep the hyur population alive, and elezens are already extinct.
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alright, so after tomestone gear i get in the raid to get the next tier of equipment right?
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How is he going to be remembered by the populace at large that doesn't know he was planning to betray his resistance comrades and use them to summon a primal
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>>382932321
and to upgrade your tome stuff, yea
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Same reasons I stopped playing intermittently after Second Coil was released. Same reasons I stopped playing Heavensward before Gordias Savage was released (3.1). Same reason everyone who plays this game quits intermittently. Every fag says they play this game on and off. There's nothing to do. Throwing you face at the same dungeons (used to be like 4 in 2.0, now like 2 in 3.0, going to be 1 in 4.0 now) gets dead fast, and even faster with less tome dungeons. Now Yoshi expects you to do Diadem (shit rng gook grinding-tier content that was doa) and Hunts (bot-tier 10 year old child-tier gameplay and socializing). Only thing to do is level up other classes after you get to cap. The slog has gotten progressively worse since 2.0. Fuck you Yoshi and fuck you casuals.
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>>382932563
He did nothing wrong.
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>>382932650
>implying the number of dungeons even matters when people only spam one anyways
I haven't seen Temple of the Fist in roulette once.
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>>382930781
>melee bursting a MCH
Lol enjoy getting stunned/heavied/knock-backed (thanks Yoshi) then never able to close or escape the 10yalm gap again as you get bullets in your face.
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>>382929897
Yoshi actually cut a deal with botters, that's why he gimps everything where you can only tolerate botting it.

Someone redpill me on a good bot btw, I'm tired of this shitshow of dps queues and shit dps when non-dps.
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>>382932927
Weird, I always get temple or ala mhigo but the only time I've run Kugane was when I queued for it specifically
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>>382932927
which is a shame because its not as sleep inducing as kugane or mhigo
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Explain the Susano gaol mechanic to me
It USED to be that the last one on the enemy list is always the correct gaol, but apparently this is only true if Susano is at the top or bottom, so

Susano
Ama-no-iwato
Ama-no-iwato
Ama-no-iwato
Ama-no-iwato <-

or

Ama-no-iwato
Ama-no-iwato
Ama-no-iwato
Ama-no-iwato <-
Susano

But when he sandwiches himself between everything, shit is completely fucked. What do?

Ama-no-iwato ??
Susano
Ama-no-iwato ??
Ama-no-iwato ??
Ama-no-iwato ??

I COULD tell fuckers to mark their own but is there anything I can do on my own to tell the correct one? Looking at it isn't reliable because sometimes shit blends into him, the effects and the ground texture
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>>382929596
Enjoy it while it lasts. SB story is generic as shit.
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>>382929019
I hate this playerbase so much honestly. And before a redditor responds, yes I make my own PF. But seriously this community is cancer incarnate.
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>>382928279
Except EX primals in SB are joke right now. Only fun fight is Shinryu.
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>>382933492
Not really, not that I know of at least.
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>>382931747
>be SAM
>see another SAM of equal ilvl
>other SAM goes in and does his shitty inferior One Sen opener
>slowly SWWAAAAAGER up
>start to build up my Three Sen opener
>Use the expensive af infusion of strength potion that I bought from the marketboard using the gil money that I got from gather botting
>other sam going crazy, believing he is the top DPS on the parser
>finish my big dick 3 Sen opener
>Get close to 5k DPS damage while the other shitter SAM barely has 4k and stay top DPS the whole fight

Now read this and tell me I don't sound like a faggot, since I'm just copying the retarded shit you write.
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>thread is still up
>barely bumping
So, we've all quit SB already?
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>>382934430

I don't want to be banned by the scare mods for discussing videogames desu
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>>382934430
Not a huge amount to talk about right now, things will stay mellow til savage and balance changes are released in a couple weeks
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>>382934430
Can't use the subject field for players to find the thread. Mods also scared off many players.
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>>382923148
Literally skippable.
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>>382934430
Threads have been repeatedly deleting threads. Has made me come to /v/ to check out SB threads less (still ctrl+f'ing it periodically but not as much as I used to).
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>>382933492
I just watch the one with the mark dude it's not hard
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>12s is just as much of a shitshow it was at 60
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>>382928279

Maybe they surprise us with Savage Primals or something?
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>>382933492

It's always the fourth one on the list dude, it's not hard.

Susan has some of the simplest mechanics of any EX trial. I don't know if people overthink them and get flustered or are just literally retarded.
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Did you guys get your maid uniform yet?
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>finally playing on other character
>go English voices
>Lyse's fucking ugly as voice
>all these ugly ass voices
I'm not even a fucking weeaboo I can watch some dubs but this is ear-grating.
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>>382936606
And Lyse just won't shut the fuck up whenever she's on screen, it's either muh mhigo, getting mad at people with no weapons, armor, or training not attacking the empire, and rambling like an idiot that can't add 2 and 2 together
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>>382929897
Last I checked nobody was doing it anymore after the exp nerf.

>PVP exp gets nerfed
>Dies overnight

Thanks, Yoshi P. A few people were abusing easy experience by AFKing, so we'd better just make losing a waste of time to the point that everyone just goes back to spamming PotD.
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>>382933261
Mmominion for everything, rebornbuddy with lisbeth addon for crafting
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>>382930137
I leveled a healer with my MSQ because I wanted to be useful to my FC sooner as opposed to later.
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>>382937623
Then have them help you level a DPS properly or stop being a cuck.
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>>382930025
RDM is super useful though. Good damage, a party-wide damage buff, can toss heals in a pinch and always has instant-cast res up.
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>>382935171
>threads have been deleting threads
Really casts my Curaga's
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>>382936606

Once funny unfitting voice for lakshimi too
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>>382936606
Use the jp voices.
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>get to the home stretch of the MSQ with level 68 quests
>think I'm gonna make it in time for normal raid
>end up doing some PVP for some fun
>keep doing PVP
>nothing but PVP now
Well, so much for raiding.
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>leveling PLD is really fucking boring and I feel like I'm a mediocre tank that can't pace dungeons well
>decide to try leveling a healer as a change of pace
>get AST to 50
>realize I'm really fucking bad at this
>like ARR NIN I like the style of SAM but my real world damage output is fucking trash
I am in crisis.
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>>382936606
All the songs are in english, english voices are canon, deal with it weeb.
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>>382937356
>enter a new zone
>"THERE I WAS...WITH THE WARRIOR OF LIGHT AND SCIONS AT HAND...HOW WE BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH"
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>>382938721
not that guy but the only acceptable time to use the english voices is ARR and ARR patches
the british studio they've used since HW is very fitting for the game and the voice acting is usually decent and sometimes good

lyse's VA was bad, this I won't deny. but yotsuyu, yugiri and gosetsu are all 10/10
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>>382938859
only acceptable time to use the JP voices is ARR and ARR patches, I mean

turn that shit off afterward you fucking weebs
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>>382938859
>he missed out on Zeno's english VA godtier perfomance.
YYOUUUUUUUUU
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PRAY
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>>382938978
>not having Japanese Gotetsu, Hien, and Yotsuyu
I shiggidy
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>>382938978
But I'm a weeb, abloo bloo bloo. Also the primals jp voices are sexy.
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>>382938846
I miss the HW narration.
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>>382939127
>Not having English Gosetsu
Pleb of the highest order.
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>>382939227
Edmont was amazing
>they came...
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>>382939254
Well I'll be here enjoying Master Othard while you have fun being a Plebasaurus Rex
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>>382939254
>comes from weebland
>Still talks in succor reddit speak despite coming from another country entirely
Koji "give em the quickness" fox
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>live in Southern CA
>brownouts and blackouts are common during the summer
>playing XIV on PS4
>finally get into 50/60 roulette as SAM after waiting 23min
>last boss in in Amdapor Keep HM
>power flicks off
>comes back on 5 seconds later
>start up PS4
>start up XIV and sign in
>it stars downloading a 22800mb "patch"
>estimated time till completion: 664 minutes
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>>382939408
Holy shit, I though I heard his voice somewhere.
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>>382939127
But English Hien and Yotsuyu are also Japanese.
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>>382939601
You deserve it commie scum.
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So I just made it to Heavensward finally, and I'm super excited and all, but I just gotta ask you guys WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO ALPHINAUD'S VOICE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WHY?
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I've been leveling AST as a alt class recently, for no real need or reason.
The dungeon grind has started to tire me out somewhat though, and I'm wondering if I should keep at it until 70 or take a break at 60 where I assume the job quests will have a suitable break point too.
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>>382937529
Arigato amigo.
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>>382929151
>get that new mount in Ala Mhigo dungeon
>literally a Metal Gear
>even has a huge jetpack it uses to fly around
Why is everything Garlean made so awesome?
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>>382939546
Reminder the only reason we're supposed to be able to understand like half the characters in this game is the fucking Echo anyways.
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>RDM questline
Who the FUCK wrote this steaming pile of shit?
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>>382939764
How's your chapped ass, East roastie?
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>>382939546
Um, why would he speak an entirely different dialect of Eorzean? That doesn't make sense.
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>>382939773
Yea, you're gonna feel that way for a while.
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>still 90k on omega solo instance
please
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>>382939834
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>>382940145
Here, you'll need this.
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This is your raid boss tonight
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>>382939828
99% of things with cats involved are shit, only the rogue story avoided this somehow despite having both cats and lalas
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>>382938721
I played with nip voices on my first character.
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>Syphon Strike now restores exactly the same amount of MP as Dark Arts uses
What the fuck
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>nazi mod has given up trying to censor video game discussion
>butthurt anon nowhere near in sight
have they given up?
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>>382938809
>English Susano and Lakshmi
Lol no thanks can't even compare to the nippon ones. Cannon these nuts in your mouf.
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>>382939792
>The dungeon grind has started to tire me out somewhat though
AST is probably the best healer in pvp and healer in frontline are always, always appreciated.
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>>382941187
Wait til this evening, that's when they are active
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>>382941379
usually 6pm to 2am euro time and it's already midnight
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>>382939773
Just wait til you hear Y'shtola's new voice.
Every time she speaks I hear pic related.
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>Hildibrand and co will never be voiced.
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>>382941206
English Susan is WAY better, the fuck are you on about.
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>new live letter announced
>it's a Q&A
>enter thread
>it's just typical HOUSING?, job whining, "please make ARR easier" and male bunny outfit NA bullshit
>the first actual question is on page 5 asking about eureka
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>>382941187
Autismo is a gook that doesn't understand the rest of the world doesn't play themselves to death with Blizzard shit in netcafes so it's early in the morning for him.
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>>382941496

To be fair she sounds so much better playing Y'shtola
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>FC invites from people in entirely different zones
How even
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>>382941725
please look forward to it :^)
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>>382942225

They want to farm your asshole for FC points.
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>>382941550
I always just imagine Hildibrand sounding like a loud, boombastic dandy and his assistant talking in a squeaky voice with a harsh cockney accent.
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>>382939773
Play with Japanese voices nerd
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>>382936104
No, I just did this again to confirm.
If Susano is at the top or bottom of the list, it's the fourth GAOL.
If he isn't, it can be the second or third or what the fuck ever. Luckily the list appears DURING the cast, so if it's a bad list you can proceed to eye the correct gaol yourself.
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62 DoL here, for collectables, should I just stick to trying to get the lvl 60, I can seem to get anywhere near 450 collectability for higher lvl. Even the lvl 60 ones only happen if I get 3 lucky Instinctual Appraisal.
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>>382941301
I've done some frontlines occasionally too and that has helped.
I'm so glad that there are multiple different ways of getting decent exp now in the game, helps a lot with alt-job grind.
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>>382939773
His ARR voice is so much fucking worse what are you talking about
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>>382941725
ARE YOU HEHHEEH HE GONNA HEH INCLUDHEHEHE RAUBHAHN SAVAGE XD INTO THE GAME XD?
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>>382942576
>I'm so glad that there are multiple different ways of getting decent exp now in the game
absolutely

I hit 70 way before being finished with the MSQ
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>>382942453

Maybe he doesn't want to go full Weeb
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>>382941120
REEEEEEEEEE STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES WHY AREN"T YOU PLAYING WOW STOP LAYING THIS SHILL GARBAGE TRASH FOR REDDITORS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NO VIDEO GAMES ALLOWED BACK TO VG
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Is Shinryu considered an obstacle for players?
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>>382942627
Some people get so used to a certain voice they don't realize how bad it is when it's changed and the new one is better.
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>>382942972
For shitters at least, unless they get carried.
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>>382942576

Most likely going to be easier as well. They need to make leves worthwhile for battle classes, they didn't even introduce them this time around for DoW/M. Moreso than that, make the leves interesting like platforming across an area in a set amount of time for a bonus or stuff like driving a gobroller to clean up debris. There's no reason for leves to be just sidequests in compact form.
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>>382941725
I am ok with housing questions
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>>382942972
While he has almost no new mechanics to speak of, I've been in several groups (trying to help my friends through it) that couldn't do it.

I'd say he's an obstacle, yes, and I'm be surprised if whining doesn't get him nerfed.
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>>382942575
get the old scrip gear, you should have more than enough perception to get it with two discerning eyes + single mind
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>>382941457
There must be more than one then, around 8pm mst is when I see anons getting autistic about people talking about a game
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>go to Foundation for some old stuff
>that theme starts playing
I miss Heavensward.
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I just did the level 70 monk dungeon.

Oh my fucking god, the music is incredible
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>>382942225
>got at least one invite a day for a week a and a half from the same guy
Fuck off Shinji, get in the robot
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>>382939828
At least Arya is CUTE
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>>382943174
Am I expected to burn through cordial for that?
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>>382943404
Why is it only the short hair haircuts look good on females in XIV?
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>>382943098
Where's the toilet paper?
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>>382943354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ByVL5krbBQ

forgot muh link
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>>382942831
It's a fucking Japanese game stop being so insecure do you watch movies dubbed too?
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>>382924354
The quests in comparison are not bad at all, that anon is making it out as if it is gonna be a shit ton of quests with nothing to them. It's gonna be fetch quests and shit but they aren't nearly as numerous, and have a more condensed story to them. The things you'll be doing in them are fairly short and easy to do and you won't have bullshit like "go across the world, then come back to waking sands you fucking mule".
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>>382943576
I don't know but there aren't enough of them.
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DRK or RDM? I wanna be a cool magic-wielding swordsman.
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>>382943404
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>>382943438
you need 600gp at a minimum to do anything gathering related for hw, meld it or eat food if you have to
also yeah use a lot of cordials. i have literally hundreds of cordials just sitting around at any time, it's not like there's anything else to spend company seals on
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>it's the same pathetic weeb whining about people not caring about his garbage Jap script and shitty overacting seiyuu yet again
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>>382943291
I liked the HW soundtrack better than SB

Shinryu second phase theme was pretty great though
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>>382929151
>you will never serve the proud garlean empire
>ywn be a psychopath
whew i'm gonna stay subbed
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>>382943810
>one drop
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>>382943810
arya is a 100% cute boy and i won't have him slandered in this way!
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>ywn be his moon
>ywn tease him relentlessly as he tries in vain to save face
why even sub
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>>382944965
The bitch who thinks she was a man in her past life is obviously his moon. We're all just waiting for them to fuck already.
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>>382926145
If you are non ameriacan and play on a NA server you gotta use a VPN or you will be constantly kicked.
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>>382944913
>boy
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>Level SCH to 61
>wipe twice in fucking sirensong because I oom on big pulls
Why didn't I listen? This was the future I chose.
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How are you fellow sch mains holding up. I want to switch so bad but the other healers suck I like how preventive and strategic sch is and all these ogcds are FUN.

I'll keep playing sch until I get kicked for it but man this is rough. I can't seem to turn around shitty situations as much. Ast has synastry and ED and whm has bene but sch doesn't have anything to turn things around in a pinch. That was one of the ways you could tell if you had a good healer.
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>>382943576
Because all hairstyles have the same poly count limit so longer hair means having really basic bangs and/or big low poly block of hair.
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>>382945203
You simply aren't op anymore so get good.
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>>382945068
yeah... and thats not me...
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>>382945132
I've seen boys like this.
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>>382945203
AST is literally more preventative than SCH is now. aspected benefic is stronger than adlo and cheaper and instant cast.
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>there are people who unironically think Lyse is the best thing to happen in XIV because the game now has a "cool main character"

Why do I share servers with these people?
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>>382945203
>SCH babby used to being carried by fairy shocked and appaled to find out they have to actually try now
good, fuck you
fuck warriors too
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>>382945203
AST are better at both preventive shielding and strategy, go back in the cuckshed.
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>>382945150
That's not sch that's just you desu most runs I have of sirensong I pull like 1500dps or more on 3+ mobs and like 1300 on bosses except for the last one since tanks misplace the bosses making me heal a lot more.
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>>382945150
You have rouse, fey illumination, lustrate, whispering dawn, sacred soil, and yes your own heals that cost mp. Stop being bad
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>>382945591
it's better than having y'shtola being effectively the main character
zenos should have finished the job
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How to get the Magitek Predator?
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>>382945571
Also AST just doesn't run out of MP ever. Even when solo healing Ex shit you can simply do Ewer+Lucid+Celestial and you literally get all your mana back.
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>>382945591
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>>382945715
>y'shtola
>main character

Nigga what? The WoL is the main character, Y'Shtola is just the token XIV character for crossovers. Just like Shantotto is for XI.
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Why the fug my keyboard switch to a different language all the time
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>>382945902
Shift+alt?
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>>382945707
I used all those things and still wiped the group nigger, fuck outta here
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>>382945771
Ewers are rng and most of sch's healing is mp free ontop of having 10% refresh every minute, lucid dreaming, and energy drain. Spamming adloqioum was never how you were supposed to play sch and that's the only situation where you'd be even close to oom now.

>>382946063
Because you are bad. You can do that pull at minimum ilvl with no issues
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>>382945715
You what
Y'shtola has done even less for the plot than Urianger or Tataru
She's a nothing character that SE can't use because she has a very expensive japanese VA
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>>382946224
Funny I never had the issues on AST
SCH is busted faggot
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>>382945068
>yfw patch content is a questline to get them together
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>>382946341
This will happen. Without a shadow of a doubt, there will be a patch side story that revolves around getting them to see around their differences and ultimately fug.
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>>382945598
>>382945374
Am I the only one who actually liked sch and know to play it? Fairies were only strong because of cleric the main power of the class (ogcds and shields) are still in but 61-70 skills outside of broil 2 sucks. As long as emergency tactics/deployment and shields still exists sch will have a place.

If someone tells me to bandwagon a gypsy card thrower again I'm gonna spaz. Stop being butt hurt about sch and war.

I need opinion of good healers desu since a good healer can make any of them look just as good.
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>>382946224
>and energy drain
Nobody is gonna spent an aetherflow on a 2% mp drain.
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>>382946452
>If someone tells me to bandwagon a gypsy card thrower again I'm gonna spaz. Stop being butt hurt about sch and war.
im not saying this, im saying you faggots deserved to be brought into line and the tears now that you have been are hilarious
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>>382945893
>Just like Shantotto is for XI.
This one never made sense to me. She's only relevant to one of the three city state's story quests and a cash grab mini-expansion and doesn't even have a unique design. Damn near any story-relevant expansion character would be a better choice for XI's rep.
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>>382946341

Theirs is going to be the most glorious hate fuck we will ever witness.
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>>382946307
SCH is fucked because they completely reworked their mp consumption in stormblood without really testing anything. They gave them lucid dreaming and decided because of that they needed to gut aetherflow while also increasing their mp costs instead of doing one or the other.

While AST has had their mp consumption balanced throughout HW and all they got was a buff with how lucid dreaming is just better than their old version.

The entire problem with scholar is they nerfed literally every fucking thing about them so now they have no niche at all. They were the mp efficient healer now they are the worst at it. They were the damage healer now bane spreads 6 potency dots. Fairy was a strong healer now it's only 165 potency. Everything about their changes are completely half assed especially when half of their new abilities clearly revolve around old cleric stance with excog and fey union being meant to allow them to stay in that stance longer. The only thing they had left was best shields but whoops now AST has 500 potency instant cast shields because that's obviously what they fucking needed.
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>>382946638
> brought into line
Meaning being inferior in every way to other healers?
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>>382945150
>>382945203
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>>382945124
>play on NA from Uk
>no issues
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Hello, can someone please tell me the most useful way to skill my chocobo companion? Don't want to mess it up as it is apparently permanent.

Should I go 4 into healing for cure and then rest into attack? Is that still the way to go?
Thank you.

Oh, if it matters, I plan on playing mostly dark knight with some dps on the side in the far future maybe
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>>382945715
Alphinaud is more of a main character than catslut.
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>>382946828
yes, get fucked faggots
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>>382946892
it's not permanent, you can buy reagan peppers from the gc quartermasters to reset their skills
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>>382946962
I don't even play SCH but WHM, you sound tremendously bitter.
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>>382941206

UK Susano is a thousand times more superior to the Japanese version.

There are just some voices the UK studio handles for characters far better than the Japanese tracks.

WILD AND PURE AND FOREVER FREE!
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>>382946670
Well, she shares the spot with Prishe. Its just that the Japanese like Shantotto, the same way they like Y'shtola despite her basically doing nothing since 3.1 and her involvement in Alex and the trials.

Also, I guess Y'shtola was coosen because she stands out in the FF crowd, not only for being a catgirl but also for being a healer with a serious, tolerate no shit character. She plays off amazingly well in Opera Omnia and Arcade Dissidia on other characters.
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>>382946670
It's the same for Y'shtola. She's a very minor story character that does something about once per expansion. The most important thing she's done in SB so far is get sliced in half my Zenos.
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>>382947129
I don't like her dissidia design. She looks more like a rabbit than a cat.
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>>382945124

Why? Since September 2013 i have never had this problem before now?
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>>382947126
REJOOOOIIIIICE
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>>382947126
As someone who actually speaks moon: I enjoy the english voices a lot more than the japanese. While the JP overacting can be neat sometimes the actually dialogue is painfully shit. With the notable exception of Urianger, no one speaks in an more classical style and everything sounds generic as fuck.

Lyse takes the cake though. If you thought her english dialogue was bad, hold shit the japanese version is 10 times worse.
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>>382946534
In 3.x it was absolutely used and now what the fuck else are you gonna use it on? Not bane, because manually dotting is more effective on fewer than 6 targets. You get three stacks every minute and unless your party is absolutely retarded you'll rarely need all three reserverd for indom, lustrate, and/or SS before AF comes off cooldown
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>>382946638
>you deserve to have your class shitted on even if you like it because it was strong
>I'm not butthurt I swear

The crazy thing is I'm asking how other sch are fairing well I was until I was bombarded with she'd memes and other faggotry.
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>>382947096
im a paladin
fag
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>>382947358
>If you thought her english dialogue was bad, hold shit the japanese version is 10 times worse.
give us a taste my man
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>>382946892
Heals then attack, you can leave out attack for a while and his tanking skills are useless
I think the difference between an unskilled chocobo and a max attack one is only going from 500 to 700 dps anyway
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>>382946018
Where do I disable this
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>>382947431
posts from the shed...
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This is a new gear set from Final Fantasy XIV Stormblood's new raid wing, Omega: Deltascape. Say something nice about it
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>>382947347
probably overzealous anti-ddos measures
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>get kind of bored of the simple RDM rotation
>switch back to Bard
>have to keep dots up
>have to keep songs up
>have to watch for bloodletter procs
>have to keep straight shot up
>have to watch for straight shot crit procs
>also have to weave in barrage when i can and other c/ds like palisade to help the tank or refresh to help the healers
>if i miss any of this i feel like the shittiest bard in the world
>everyone in my fc tells me bard is one of the worst dps classes right now

should i stick it out..?
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>>382947550
it isn't too bad if you take the hat off
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>>382947571
You should leave your retarded FC
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>>382947550
i'd be ok with dressing my qt catgirl in bulky, ugly armour so long as it was dyable
but it's not and im not gonna bother farming the dyable ones either
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>>382947550
>the game puts a fucking dunce cap on you for playing healer
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>>382947550
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*wooden blocks intensify*
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>>382946836
What is this?
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>>382947413
Because in 3.x AF was a 30 sec cd and the fairy didn't suck ass and shields didn't cost so much mana. Pretty sure there are other reasons.
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>>382946814
>when half of their new abilities clearly revolve around old cleric stance with excog and fey union being meant to allow them to stay in that stance longer.
I've been saying this since EA. They clearly designed new scholar when Cleric Stance was still a thing and the decision on mind scaling was made way later in development. Excog is just way too dumb of an ability otherwise.
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>>382947550
110 potential armor sets to choose from that would fit the raid theme.

They choose that.

Fuck SE is lazier than WoW with their sets.
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>>382947550
I kinda like the traditional WHM coat at the bottom.
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>>382946836
rip SCH aoe
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>>382947550
I can't.
>the maternity gowns aren't fat enough! put a suit of ugly and thematically inappropriate armor on top!
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>>382947550
I thought it was supposed to be based of FF5 armour sets.

What the fuck is this supposed to be?
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>>382946892
My Chocobo is all attack because who the fuck cares about anything but making mobs die marginally faster anyways. In hindsight now that field mobs hit harder and healers for FATEs don't exist anymore this is the wrong approach but whatever.
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>>382947793
>Omega's armor set isn't full Galuf sheep armor
I'm coming for you Yoshi-""""""P""""""
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>>382945203
>preventive
>strategic
>ogcds
Sounds to me you should've just played AST.
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>>382947746
>>382947750
>>382947793
>>382947841
I said say something nice
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>>382947520
Language settings, or control panel>region and language>keyboards and language>change keyboards on win7 couldn't tell you for other versions.
Either remove the keyboard layouts you don't use or the key combination in Advanced key settings tab.
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Is Primal fucked right now or just Leviathan?
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>>382947129
>Well, she shares the spot with Prishe.
It bugs me so much that Prishe and Werei and Kupipi are time-limited units in Brave Exvius, but Shantotto is permanently available. Especially when all the XIV characters are free and farmable.
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>>382947571
they are wrong
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>>382948043
That's the armour for ranged DPS, right?
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>>382948043
Well, its ugliness does have the air of authenticity.
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>>382947769
Oh yeah, AF also gave twice as much mp as it does now.
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>>382947950
Isn't it supposed to be Genji Armor sets?
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>>382948092
>Levi
Stop playing on a meme server
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>>382948236
Fuck you pal I've been on it since launch
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>before SB everyone was bitching healers don't get armour
>now they're bitching the healer armour isn't more Healy McHealer robes
???
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>>382946303
Is that why she barely does anything? Her Jap VA is extremely expensive? What the fuck why would you hire someone expensive to be a recurring character in a fucking MMO?
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>>382948216
Genji is either later or the savage version of this. I'm hoping savage because another tier of this garbage is unacceptable.
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>>382948124
Casters.
Admittedly, the fending, maiming and striking all look fine. The healer and caster sets are beyond retarded though.
I really hope the next tier is better.
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>>382947789
>tfw only use excog to throw away a stack so I can gen get a fresh af stack

It doesn't even crit or get affected by lagresse.Question what does lagresse affect on a sch?
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>>382948216
No it's all muh historical nippon too stronk armor folded over a jillion times.
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>>382948361
Because the Jap voice industry is a far bigger racket than anything America can come up with.
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>>382948361
It's a theory, but yes, she does have a high profile VA. That's why she was at the very top of the voice credits in SB despite having a combined total of ten or so lines.
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>>382947769
>>382948175
>Because in 3.x AF was a 30 sec cd
Aetherflow was not on a 30 second cooldown. And you have access to lucid dreaming now. Energy drain was always what you used extra stacks on if the cd ends before using all the stacks.
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>>382948429
Anything that's not an ability or a faerie spell.
Pretty much physick, adloq and succor, that's it.
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>>382948683
I rarely heal with those should I switch it out for something else?
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Is Coeurl, Goblin, or Zelara any good?
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>>382948441
>Not using AFs or a fitting set as your glamour
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why doesn't the game just give you a totem fragment that's worth a fourth of a totem every time you hit enrage
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>>382936104
>It's always the fourth one on the list dude, it's not hard.

Frequently, but not always.
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>>382948905
I do use fitting sets as glamour, the point was that the deltascape armors are fuck ugly.
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>>382948905
I really don't know how they're going to top RDM's AF, now or ever. I feel like everyone is just going to glamour into it for everything.
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>>382948361
>Her Jap VA is extremely expensive?
No. She was in about 8 billion trashy low budget anime during HW. Lyse's has far more seniority and should cost a lot more. They also spammed Kan'E and Thancred's seiyuu with Sanu and turtle man so it's not like those characters lacked screentime in SB for that reason.

Alisae probably does have the cheapest main cast VA at this point though, although that said Y'shtola would have been the second cheapest at least until very recently.
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Is there a difference between a lb2 and a lb2.5? does the latter do more damage?
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>>382939082
Have (You) the strength?
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>>382949176
>buttcape
Absolutely not.
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>>382948836
>Coeurl
Theyre full
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>>382948497
>VAs are like idols and can't have normal relationships because otaku fans would flip out
>70+ year old woman still voicing Goku and his male family members because people don't like change
The Japanese are fucking insane.
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>>382948380
>>382948216
They said genji gear was the first tier. It's still fucking hideous and doesn't fit aesthetically. Genji gear is in FFV but you steal it from Gilgamesh, not any of the bosses featured in the raid.
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>>382949242
>difference
One is a waste of gauge, the other isn't, can you tell which one is which or are you a retard
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>>382949439
Nah I just had someone flipped out because I used it as soon as it hit 2
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>>382949226
Oh that said though Ai Kayano's schedule is fucking insane. So if Y'shtola doesn't actually -need- to be voiced for something they aren't going to have her voice some filler lines and a sub-character or something.
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>>382946836
I'm literally retarded, can someone explain what this is all about?
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>>382949412
And in V it's just a stat stick anyway. I don't think people really considered how bad samurai armor looks on people who aren't Takeda Shingen.
I still hope Gil comes back in tier 2 or 3.
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>>382949501
That's about 3k potency wasted if it was a fight with 3 gauges
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>>382949242
No difference in potency. Partial LB gauge will round down.
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>>382949825
Not possible since enrage would hit before it even reaches 3
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>>382949176
>cape clipping
it's shit
too bad because i'd like it if it wasn't for that
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>>382949380
>not realizing otaku actually cheer for Y'shtola's seiyuu to marry one of her male co-workers
>not understanding that Japanese unironically love and respect Nozawa's voice acting
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>get DRK to 70 but tanking in dungs if fucking boring
>get AST to 70, but I can't stand healing retards who stands in aoe or tanks who doesn't use CD
>start to level SAM but drop it at 60 because it's brain dead
>get RDM to 55 and drops it because it's even more brain dead
>omega comes out and I do it as DRK, but it feels like 90% tank and spank
>get loot but doesn't want to spend it on any class yet

is this the point where I drop the game?
I can't stand tanking/healing dungeons and I am still burnt out on potd and PvP so I rather shitpost on /v/ than level a dps there
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>>382948905
>using a bathrobe
lolno
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>>382949072
Until Square Enix makes SSS mandatory raiding will never be a good idea.
>mfw hitting enrage in Sophia EX unsynced
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>>382949176
Hardest part of playing RDM is keeping a big pile of prisms around just for that reason. Have to immediately glam as soon as any upgrade is gained. Everything else looks like such fucking garbage in comparison.
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>>382949754
There is no way that YosiP would pass up on Greg coming back. Would be funny if he was a solo instance before tier 2 or 3 though and was super easy to beat just to piss people off.
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>>382949610
SCH's AoE is trash. They'll still get taken for a raid spot most of the time, but it makes them feel pretty awful to play in most content.
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>>382949959
>>start to level SAM but drop it at 60 because it's brain dead
You were 2 levels from fun though
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>>382949959
Cleared those ex primals yet?
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>>382949918
How bad was your party?
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>>382949574
yet they had her voice yshtola in SB's ending to say what any character in the party could have said
i don't get it
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Most of the quests between HW and SB are great. Some in particular are possibly the best in the entire game.
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>>382949941
The AST AF bugs the shit out of me for that reason. The towelhead helm clips with the set's own weapon, so I have to hide the weapon. What the fuck SE.
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>>382950145
there was a MCH
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>>382949959
Literally me to the T. Even with drk as tank of choice. I picked sch for my healer so I can play Smn too since I can't do dps queues and pvp.
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>>382950167
HW postgame has been the highlight of the game for me, story-wise. The ends of the ARR and SB MSQ were pretty good as well.
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>>382950167
The Dragonsong War (3.1 to 3.3) is one of the highlights of the entire game.
3.0 to 3.3 is a drastic uptick in quality from the 2.x patches. It's insane how much better it is.
But then 3.4 was one of the biggest letdowns in the game's history and 3.5 was pretty dumb.

I hope SB's patches are good, I honestly do. I don't know where the fuck they're going to take the story from here, though, since all of SB's story threads except Omega were wrapped up.
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>>382947987
You made a terrible mistake because chocobos make excellent healers. They can cure over 9k.
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>>382950006
>expect this thing to be a dps checker
>lolno
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>>382947431
stop leaving the sh_ed
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>>382950120
got them a few days after release, it's impossible to find a good farm party now
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>>382947550
This armor is great. It triggered all the catshittter female playing virgins.
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People spend all day idling in Lochs for Ixion.
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>>382950445
Well we will hopefully get a face reveal for Elidibus. Since the Emperor recognized him he must be someone we met in the story before. My money is on Gaius Van Baelsar. We might help Emperor kill more black Ascians or something.
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>>382950354
To add, the difference between a run where a tank uses Cds and not is so jarring it's not funny. When you dps/tank the mobs are the same there is not much Surprise but as a healer it can go anyway from being really easy to multiple wipes.
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>>382950491
Literally when did I ever need that when I was playing tanks.
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>>382950746
I doubt it would even appeal to the anime edgelords either
Also the hand clipping
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>>382950445
Hope you like seeing Lyse, because most of those damn patches is going to be SE finally developing her character. I'd be more surprised if they didn't go that route because they have to know they did fuck all for that character.
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>>382950027
>>382946836
Scholar is literall the new cu'ck class. Chain stratagemn more like c'u'ck stratagem
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>>382950445
fordola is still around, albeit in the custody of the resistance. she was strong enough to beat us if we didn't have urianger's help so it's not escaping would be that hard for her
plus yeah edilbus is probably gaius like >>382950772 said, he's referenced way too many times for them to not use him, especially given his connection to fordola
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>>382950975
I hope they do it the same way they developed Alphinauds character.
By taking everything she was so happy and proud of, like her nation being free and her being the resistance leader, and tear it all down in a horrible Garlean counterattack.
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WILL THE HOUSEMAID OUTFIT EVER BE ADDED TO THE MOGSTATION
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>>382950834
>tank uses 270 str acc
>doesn't leave tanking stance
>doesn't use CD
I bet there are players who uses items because they are "best in slot" but never do anymore research
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>>382950834
Tank is fairly dependent on the healer but it's so easy to just get lazy and play the same regardless.

Well the thing generally is that tank and healer are codependent and each tank and healer are going to have different comfort zones. Sometimes tanks want to do shitloads of mitigation and self healing and want the healer to DPS their ass off, other times they want the healer to heal like hell so they can DPS harder themselves, and which is optimal depends on what classes, what gear, and player skill. It's also the case that some healers don't want to DPS and are happy healing a lot, some healers are massive fucking pussies and don't want to DPS and are afraid of having to heal a lot, and some want to DPS and have the tank facilitate it. Working out this balance in the scope of a DF dungeon run is not likely to happen.
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>roulette into King Mog
>two sprout DPS
>explain not to kill the King before the minions are ded
>fight progresses
>see Memento Moogle being cast
>only two Moogles ded abd King is at 1/3rd life

Now I understand being new and fucking up out of ignorance but this shit was explicitly fucking explained to you brainlets holy fuck kill yourselves
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>>382951340
Hopefully never, you fucking degenerate
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>>382950925
More shitters btfo. I'm loving this armor set.
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I don't understand why everyone hates on the new armor. People seemd really happy about Kugane, not Japan areas and getting to play Sam.
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>>382951515
>>382951527
can't shitters just use the armor from water temple?
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>>382951392
I guess I should say that because I find this whole dynamic pretty frustrating, that I'm starting to believe it would be nice if tanks' ability to DPS and ability to prevent damage weren't in opposition to each other. It would solve so many player pschology issues
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>>382951474
did i ask you?
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>>382951527
Because you can have Asian clothes and even protective gear that isn't fucking ugly. There are several sets already in the game.
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>>382946341
if it's not gonna happen I'll be disappointed
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>>382951692
It was an open question so yes
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>>382950746
Yeah upvote my good sir! We'll show it to waifufags with our dildohats and armored wedding dresses
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>>382951818
it was open to everyone excluding you
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>>382951527
Some of the sets don't exactly fit with the job they represent like pic related. Can you honestly see someone using a sword and shield under this armor? Also what >>382951782 said.
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When will they add 24 man roulette? I don't care what the reward is I just want to play the raids, they're pretty fun
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>sam and rdm are two of the easiest classes in the game while being top 3 in their role
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>>382951380
I got one of those recently in ala mhigo, 70 PLD full 270 acc 37k hp, died like a bitch without using cds on double monkey pull after the first boss. To be fair the dps were retarded as well and kept taking aoe.
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>>382951896
>being this upset
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>>382951527
These are the people complaining.
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>>382947761
An investigation to see if SCH's aoe is as bad as they say
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>>382951181
Or better, Ala Mhigans not wanting her being in charge because she's an idiot and other Mhigans taking advantage of her stupidity for their own agendas. If Ala Mhigo doesn't turn out like post-invasion Iraq then Square missed a golden opportunity.
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>>382947431

SCH has and will continue to be fine just by the virtue of it holding Indom and WD.

>>382946814

You want to count what SCH can do in the same time span as AST? WD + 2 indoms minute is at least 35k of free healing a minute. Versus Earthly Star that's the size of 10 yalms and can't be used during mechanic barfs. SCH is still by far the most MP-efficient healer in pure heals. This is not debatable in the slightest.

>hurr well adlo

SCH's core strength has never been adlo. Bane is shit but you realize a SCH does 2k damage in dungeons just by Baning and spamming broil 2 right? The MP/damage efficiency is the best out of all the healers. If they got even the slightest spammable aoe, they'd shit on AST/WHM. I mean seriously, if you think SCH has mp issues you literally have to be fucking up so impossibly hard. MP efficiency for healers is SCH>WHM>>>>AST at the moment.
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Whats the BRD stat weigh?
Crit>D-Hit>Det?
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>>382951527
Samurai players wanted to look like samurai. Every job doesn't need to look like a fat samurai or samurai with a condom hat
>This is a caster
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>>382933492
The one above him, since the aggro list resets or something, is what my WHM told me recently.
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>>382951927
I'm worried about the difficulty. I don't want another void arc. Given how easy v1-v4 was
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>>382952127
I highly doubt xxxl-kun is complaining about costco armor.
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>>382951380
The funny thing is I had a 270 war memer and he held hate stance danced and was tankier than a full vit i300 synced shitter drk. You can't predict it.

>>382951392
The idiot heal spammers makes this a living hell. I earlier ran bardam mettle with a drk tank that didn't cd once. I didn't say anything just to see how good I can dps and heal with a shitter and if I had to toggle cleric he'd be dead many times over. You can't win but I did finish bit went oom on the bird boss.
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>>382952127
But all the deltaverse gear is xxxl so why would he complain?
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>>382951959
They're "easy" because they are actually intuitive. The game designed the other classes with so many cuckold mechanics and you just end up fighting your own job
See: MCH, DRG, SMN
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>>382952176
I'd love to see Lyse deal with riots and protests from Ala Mhigans who enjoyed life under Garlean rule.
Just any sort of situation where she can't just punch it away like normal.
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>>382931267
They could fix it easily by leaving eyes even if botd drops or better yet change it to two or even three eyes instead of four
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>>382952450
>implying Lyse cannot clench her fist out of any situation
even if it is only the signal for the WoL to take over
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>>382952409

That's what optimization is. 3.0 MCH/BRD didn't make much sense to the average player either. People still think 3.0 BRD was just spamming heavy shot with a cast time when it's probably the most active of all roles once you learn it, same with 4.0 BRD.
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>>382952098
you answered a question i didnt ask you... of course im upset
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>>382951527
people dont find it visually appealing
i think most of it looks pretty bad but thats what glamours are for
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>>382952228
>thinking WHM mp efficiency is lower than SCH's.
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>>382930517
>It's always a sam, they're the only ones dumb enough to play a melee in pvp
watch out for ninjas. Good ones are scary as fuck if you underestimate them. They got like 8k burst damage so they just need to chip you a little before they can combo you once every 40 seconds
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What's the best way to level? I'm going through HW's story with my warrior, but I wanna start getting my THM to BLM.
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>>382945771

Dumbest shit I ever heard.

>just ewer yourself and not get aoe RR
>just celestial with no aoe balance

These are the people who think AST's mp efficiency is good.
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>>382952689
palace of the dead for dps
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>mfw I realize I'm still playing against the Indolent Imperial almost four years later
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>>382952450
>>382952176
I can kinda see Rowena gathering a bunch of broke-ass Ala Mhiggers that are part of Nu-Ala Mhigo to work for her for free
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>>382952689
The fun way. Casually.
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>>382952228
Is WD worth it with these fairy nerfs? I thought not and have been using Selene more.

Also I can't agree with the mp shit you sound like you got a clue but any sch will tell you when you have to run with randoms you will oom if you have to go from upkeep to intensive healing something the other healers can do easily and in some cases encouraged.
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>>382952098 dont answer
when are we getting housemade outfit in the mogstation?
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>>382952657

In terms of output yes. SCH is horrendously efficient, both in gcds spent and in overall expenditure. Thin air is good but guess what? WHM still has to spend gcds to heal. Assize is good but guess what, it's triple the cd of indom without procs.

Think about Charlybis in Deltascape 1.0 that brings everyone to 1 hp. With the proper preparation, who do you think brings everyone up to MAX hp while spending the least gcds AND least mp? SCH.
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>>382952910
Hopefully never, you fucking degenerate
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>>382952974
excuse me, what did i sAY
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>>382951340
Kill yourself.
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>>382952845
Is there any character more evil and vile than Rowena in this game?
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>>382952910
Not him, but hopefully never, you fucking degenerate
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>>382952870
nope >>382952870

SCH's """""mp issue""""" comes up in dungeons but you should be using your new Largesse cd and fucking lustrates. SCH's lower single target healing is never an issue if its the AST/WHM's job in raids. And it isn't even lower. AST/WHM can't pump out 6 lustrates in an emergency.

Literally only in dungeons does SCH have a problem and its only with bad tanks who pull alot with bad dps. Even so, don't spam adlo, alternate physick. Once you burn all fairy cds, use tether for a super embrace regen.
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>>382952745
>>382952857
Dope, do I just use the hunting log and levequests to get through the low levels?
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>>382952928
Thin air, cure 3, asylum, medica 2, assize. 0mp 2 gcd. nigger
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>>382952870

WD is still ludicroulsy powerful, 21k or so aoe healing for free is insane without having to stand in a small circle like Asylum and Earthly Star.
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>>382952928
>tfw a sch can solo heal that in like 3 seconds

Fix mp and the 70 skill and aoe and sch will be back. Emergency tactics and indom is dumb I love it.
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>>382953123
>SCH is actually the best healer
Guess all those SCHs who can't keep up in Susie are just my imagination
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>>382952910
Not him, but kill yourself you fucking degenerate
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>>382953090
Idunno maybe her funbux that she gives to her workers might be useful to them for once.
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>>382945737
Ala Mhigo unless >>382939816 is full of shit
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>Healers can literally just stand still and spam heals on themselves because half half the interrupts were removed from PvP

Brilliant
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>>382953159
That's more like it costs you negative mp since you'll regenerate about 14% from that sequence.
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>>382953159

>2 min cd
>2 gcd

SCH does that every minute and for free. In a raid situation its even better because the WHM doesn't need to fucking do anything besides assize or aslyum. SCH takes care of the immediate threat and WHM just keeps on Stone IVing.
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>level PLD to 70
>got suso weapons
>got all lakshmi accessories
>cleared and looted omega for the week

That's literally it isn't it?
I could level a DPS or Healer and rinse and repeat with shit queue times instead

Now i remember why i gave up mmo's before
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>>382936104
>>382949094
it's always the last letter on the list
if you wipe enough the letters can loop back from Z to A
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>they actually put the magitek kettle in the game
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>>382953532
2 more weeks till savage and aquapolis
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>>382953223
meanwhile ast just poops out an earthly star beforehand and heals for more
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>>382953123
I can't wait to stop spamming dungeons and see if you are right this is painful. Lagresse seems kind of lame since the healing potency of psy is low and it affects only like 3 heals.

But as a sch that hates hard casting heals I still almost oom in a lot of situations.
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This, fucking, quest
I love it!
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>>382953532
post /playtime and reflect that you beaten multiple jrpgs in one sitting
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someone explain to me what is degenerate about maids?
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>drop rate for the new magitek mount is 10%
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you have dozens of jobs to level, grind some pvp mounts, make some money etc
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>>382953532
kinda glad I'm in my 30s now and got a job

I just finished MSQ today, barely, before I went to a musical festival with a friend. She wanted to come over to play some Tekken, but I excused myself since I have to drive 800km tomorrow for training around 10pm and got some more dungeon time in.

I don't even have all aether nodes for flying unlocked. Plenty of shit for me to do left. And I want a second class as well still.
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>>382953127
Roulettes and check your challenge logs. You can do shit like X number of different FATES to get an EXP bonus. Don't forever PVP starting at 30.
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>>382953219
Ah guess I have to use eos on sic again. Ordering the fairy is my least favorite thing about sch. The delay is stupid.
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>>382953789
>but weekly tome farming is awful!
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>>382953789
Drops from where?
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>Just got Sheltron
>tfw I have to stop playing for 2 hours to reconstruct my HUD around this giant Oath Gauge
I really don't mind having a secondary resource to manage, or even that it's so large, especially since I can just shrink it if need be, but why make me have something like this and only let it be used for 2 things?
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>>382954205
Ala Mhigo dungeon.
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>>382929151
all of those reason is why they must be stopped. Nothing you say will convince me otherwise.
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Is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymRmaSuDPY the best NIN guide right now or is there a better one out there?
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>>382954217
At least you're not a whm.
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>>382954205
ALA MHIGOOOOO
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>>382953529
Fine then, cure 3 and assize, would cost me something like 800 mp and heal about as much as WD and indom before the roar that comes after. Except I now have a 48 sec cd and can actually use another aoe heal for the roar without being gated by AF stacks and the fapry being retarded and not using WD.
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>>382953789
>it drops once
>don't get it
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>>382954339
>YT
>c@
Stay away from YT creators doing guides. They are all a bunch of shitters who think their way is the only way.
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>>382954353
WHM is unnecessary but I planted it nicely on one side of my bar
At least it can be placed next to the hotbar so I don't have to look at a different part of the screen
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>>382954217
>tfw they do the exact same shit with mechanics that were present before and didn't need a stupid HUD element
Yeah, aetherflow/greased lightning REALLY needed those stupid as fuck HUD elements.
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>>382954353
>be whm
>shrink it to minimum size
>hide it behind your minimap or some shit
>ignore forever
Seems plausible.
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>>382954314
>>382954372
This is their plan to keep people running that dungeon for the late comers since it wont be part of any roulette once the next patch comes along huh
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>>382954353
I need a mirrored copy of the lily gauge so I can frame my hotbar with them
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>>382954339
that dude is pretty good at the game so yeah it's probably legit
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>>382954601
Pretty much. The only time I even glance at it is to see if I want to make a lily for prepull benison in a dungeon.
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Where are you guys putting your gauges, I put mine to the right of the tp bar
It's the only place where it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb
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>>382930517
SAM isn't even badly limited by being a melee because they have a good spammable ranged attack and gap closer.
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>>382954689
They will add it to story msq
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>>382954872
I put it under/above my oGCD bar
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>>382954968
>SAM not only has AoE combos, they even have a ranged poke combo
why
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>>382954872
right above chat log on the right hand side. And I scaled it to 60%. Much much better.

>>382954968
Enpi isn't exactly spammable. and that gap closer is the worst use of kenki
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>>382954872
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Dont worry MCH bros, we will be op again in two week when SE overbuff us again
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>seriously considering watching a youtuber to learn how to play my job well at end game
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>>382926964
>>382928036
>>382928279

But Heavensward was like this too. EX Primals were always more of a challenge than Alexander Normal.
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>>382954872
Resource bars go near my parameters, timers go near my buffs and BLM's abomination is next to enemy health
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>>382930781
>*teleports behind you*
>Yukikaze Higanbana
>if he knocks me away I farm 25 kenki with the shockwave and either shield or fuck off and leave him to bleed to death because there's no way in fuck a MCH would be able to kill me in less than 10 seconds
>if he panics I just mash his face in
>if I have an ally I just fuck around before I collect my free 50 kenki
Feels good.
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>Attempt Susan EX at least a dozen times and Lakshmi a couple
>all end in failure
Well time to wait for welfare gear.
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>>382955470
I used to do that when I found a youtuber that could cleric stance well I also learned how to use it to know how to pull large with tank. Helped a ton desu.
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>>382955335
If you make a case to stick Higanbana on everything you'll literally never run out of kenki
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>>382955702
just find better groups. it only takes one fucker in Susano to ruin everything. try dealing with fuckers who ask you to have discord. it's annoying usually, but they're usually good groups.
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>>382954872
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>>382955572
I killed people faster than 10 seconds as a mch. WF is seven seconds kek.

>>382955702
Most I could get after a week of farming was 3 totems. I gave up impossible to pug shit in this game with a job.
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>>382952541
"Waah why do I, an oh so important snowflake Youtuber, have to actually play the game to play the game. Why are people so mean, waah." I hate that guy.
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>>382955820
Lakshmi isn't even difficult mechanically but the few times I've been in there people just fall apart. 'Use Vril if you're targeted when she's got her buff up' 'pair up with someone near the edge for Divine Doubt' 'burn all four adds to near death first then kill the ones with the buff'
How fucking hard is that supposed to be.
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>>382951340
Soon I hope <3<3<3
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>>382954872
Put mine just to the right of my character model.
It's supposed to stick out like a sore thumb, that's literally its purpose so that you don't have to stare at tiny buff icons the whole fight instead of watching the fight itself, a problem I very much agree with yoshi about before SB.
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>>382956147
people are so fucking dense it hurts.

the amount of idiots i encountered just doing shinryu is painful. i dunno how many times i told people do not move when the ground gets frozen. i even would say it multiple times as he charged up that attack.

only to have some dumbass healers just slide right off the ledge immediately afterwards.

for me it's been idiot healers all day every day in these groups.
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>won Shatter with only 2 healers in the entire alliance
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>>382954872
i've only been playing my paladin... it's at the bottom right of my screen cause the paladin gauge is pointless.

though the little I've played RDM, it's in the same spot and that seems good enough.
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>>382947358
Shut the fuck up, retard. Ye olde english isn't improving the "boring" dialogue.
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>>382956513
dont need healers to hit ice
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>>382955917
>pad players
How do you use the abilities off to the side there? I've been using the option to hold in both R2+L2 to quickly bring up abilities from another hotbar, but if there's a better way to do it I'd like to know.
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>>382956549
I like it and think it does improve dialogue.
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>>382956145
Plz do not bully he is a MMO expert who does not fall for SE's tricks unlike us!!
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>39 inventory slots of dye
>I almost never dye anything anymore
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50-60, pvp or potd?

>>382954872
Near my buff bars/OGCDs.
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>>382956004
sam and mnk can definitely kill you in less than 10 seconds if they have their buffs up tho
nin takes a little while longer but they're really good at chasing people down and they have a respectable burst output as well
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>>382956692
They can't be clicked, they're just there to show cooldowns in other hotbars
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>>382956692
Not him but that's what I do, generally gives enough buttons for everything.
I just keep various abilities on bars to the side like that so that I can see whats on cooldown without having to switch crossbars.
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whaddup
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>>382956692
i wish i could play on pad. i just can't get used to it. my girlfriend plays BLM (and lots of other classes) with it and is always top of DPS charts. so i know it's not crippling. i just wanna chill on a couch and play.
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>>382954872
This is where I'm at so far. Not looking forward to re-keybinding everything once I get it completely perfect. My OCD is killing me when I can tell it's not super symmetrical, but unfortunately I can't seem to get the gauge to "lock" on to the grid in a way that it's not off to one side, so I can't lock anything else to the grid either or it'll all be off. It's a nightmare so far.
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>>382956825
Is there any numerical gauge where the number isn't absurdly tiny relative to the giant irrelevant meter
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That feel when Leg Sweep, Low Blow and Reprisal no longer do damage
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I know MCH sucks but c'mon....
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>>382956980
I played every PC game with kb+m until I got slight carpal tunnel and realized mouse is a pretty shit device that puts too much pressure on your wrist, so I switched to cuntroller for this game
I hit 4.5k in susan ex today
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>>382933918
Nigga you're dumb, 3 sen opener is only good if there's a trick attack, if you didn't use the potion the other SAM would have cucked you.
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>>382957038
MNK has a decent proportion when it comes to that. Everything else is terrible. I think SE actually expected us to keep them full size and be in awe of all the special effects or something.
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>>382957210
that feel when over half your abilities get deleted. This is like a DK in wow now. I don't want to finish leveling this job
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>>382957280
>talking about other people's low numbers when you only hit 2400
HW nins were doing more than that
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>>382957038
it's not that bad on nin since huton is extremely lenient so you can just go by the pinwheel remaining, and there's an extremely obvious noise when ninki is at 80+
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>>382957350
maybe i should try again now that i'm back to PLD. in 2.0 i did fine with it on my PLD, but in 3.0 i switched to DRG and could not wrap my head around that on controller.
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>>382957627
he's in sirensong. seems legit
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>>382931747
>be SAM
>tank puts a timer on
>RDM readies his burst starting with a hardcast Veraero
>swagger up to the middle of the arena as the boss goes to slap the RDM in the ass before getting back to the tank while the other dps are frantically attacking
>hit the boss with Hakaze
>see a 7 next to my name
>slowly do the rest of my opener
>2
every time
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>>382957627
I mean I wasn't saying I'm good or anything but that guy is obviously exceptionally bad. I think I'm pushing my buttons correctly and it is a level 62 dungeon.
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>>382956980
I feel like playing xiv on pad is one of those things where it's a lot easier if you start with it, early.

I guess that maybe starting a new job from the beginning and sticking to controller could work.
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>>382957350
Melee DPS on controller is easy because using "target nearest" works 99% of the time, and healing I can see why it works although I'm not 100% convinced in 8 mans and can't see how you'd not be gimped in 24 man, but tanking and PvP on a controller just seems like a massive pain in the ass because of how ass cycle targeting is.

Well I should say I did tank on a controller and finally went back to kb/m because of the targeting.
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>try SAM
>feels really good, strong, fluid, fun, retardedly hard to do bad with it
>try DRG
>think I like his playstyle more
>mfw I'm seriously thinking changing from SAM to DRG

I love jumping, and it seems to have a little more depth than SAM
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>ten chi jin resets mudra cool down
>mfw throwing out 5 jutsus back to back, 1 a guaranteed crit and 3 at double potency
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>>382958216
AHAHAHAH
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>>382958241
I hate tenchijin, I wish it would also reset trick attack.
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>>382957937
>8 man
Explain how you would be gimped against a single target, same thing applies to 24 mans, and the trash pulls between bosses are no different than a regular dungeon
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>>382957627
Get a load of my sick O2 DPS numbers friendo

At least I can do 3500 with i306 on a hunt ;_;
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>>382957373

You dumb as fuck, I parsed all openers multiple times on Susano dummy and 3 Sen is consistently superior. Do your own research nub
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>>382926964
maybe because you're comparing normal mode content with extreme content you fucking idiot
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>>382933492
It's the fourth one down from Susanoo.

It continues from the top, so it can be one like

rock
rock < this one
Susanoo
rock
rock
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>>382958407
He meant for healers dumb dumb. Read the post again.
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>>382929151
nah, I might've wanted to join them before SB but they really cleared up how shit garlemald is
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>>382958407
What does the number of enemy targets have to do with the number of people to heal? D-pad scrolling through 8 people is slower than 4 and healing the other alliance when their healers inevitably fuck up becomes an entire extra thing compared to just clicking different boxes.
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>>382957937
Target nearest, assist target on the tank, pressing confirm while facing the target, or just pressing left/right if there's one target are some easy way to target
With healing you just need to remember that the list wraps around and you can press cancel to go back to yourself. Takes 4~5 buttons at worst to reach someone in the middle of the list. Tanks are usually 1-2 button press since they're at the top and you can preemptively hover above the next party member/enemy while casting. You're definitely gimped in 24 mans though, since alliance targeting is clunky
72man PvP with it is also pretty bad. I got 8/1/22 as SAM once though
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>>382958615
Shit, I think this might be it. Godspeed anon
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>>382939773
It's a trade off

virtually every other voice actor got dumped for a much better one

it's only alphy that gets the brat sounding one, I miss the old one too but the new one kinda fits him more
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>>382958694
>assist target on the tank
Oh and if you're a tank obviously do this on a dps to get to that fucker he's been attacking
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Are Miners shafted from the Dusklight Aethersand meme? I'm not seeing any Ephemeral nodes for them.
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>>382955470
What are you, a jump potion newfag?
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GIRLS HUGGING GIRLS
NOT HUGGING WOL
IT HURTS
>>
How the fuck do I play NIN in PvP? I can't kill anything.

Is the stealth even good for anything?
>>
>>382959728
>just thought this was a cute moment
>now realizing that no one gives WoL any skinship
I feel bad now.
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>>382959927
You can't stealth in PvP
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>>382959468
almanadine in the lochs, according to garland tools
12am spawn
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>>382957937
>but tanking and PvP on a controller just seems like a massive pain in the ass because of how ass cycle targeting is.
for pve you either spam your aoe or use L1+up/down to cycle through the enmity list, it's not like they're going anywhere fast
for pvp I just either charge and target when I'm closer since you don't want to give away who you're targeting, and DRK I just target the nearest anyway since most people aren't dumb enough to stay in pull range
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>>382959468
Azim Steppes X:29 Y:15 12pm-4am
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>>382959927
use mug a lot, get shadowfang up for that sweet damage increase, killsteal with baklava or throwing knives
i've never found hide worth it, i'm pretty sure it's always better to katon or raiton someone since the only thing hide actually affects is assassinate, plus the shuki reset on the jutsus is pretty useful for chasing people or running away
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People still play this generic WoW clone? Why? Do you hate fun?
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>>382960152
I could've sworn that aymeric and wol had sex in the canon
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>>382957478
TFW you get started on leveling DRK and you keep hitting your old Scourge key out of habit
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>>382960306
Spamming AoE for everything is super sub-optimal and tanks sometimes need to target things that aren't on the enmity list yet.

Like in dungeons when you have patrolling mobs you want to shield lob them quickly before they get close not run off like a fucktard and try to flash them.
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>>382960814
I like the coat of paint this WoW clone has
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>>382960814
Because it does everything WoW does only better.
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>>382957478
rip in pepperonies sweet knight
>tfw you immediately dropped tanking after hitting 70 and switched to another main
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Damn I liked this helmet until I noticed the horns clipping
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>>382954872
this works for me
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>>382960823
That's where the fancy dinner was totally heading to, but sadly the plot interrupts.
Hydaelyn is a giant cockblocking crystal.
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>>382957478
>Shadowskin
Now cross role
>Reprisal
Now cross role
>Dark Dance
was trash anyway
>Convalesce
Cross role
>Bloodbath
Was never yours, WAR lost it
>Delirium
Renamed and made a cooldown
>Scourge
Will be sorely missed, RIP
>Low Blow
Cross role
>provoke
Cross role
I don't like losing Delirium or Scourge but you literally didn't lose half your kit especially sicne most of that shit wasn't even unique to DRK to begin with.
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>>382960975
>slow and predicable combat
>uninteresting quests
>raids are short and sums into teleporting from room to room
>nothing outside of bosses ever drops anything interesting
I understand if you enjoy the visuals and the story but gameplay wise I don't see anything of value over WoW.
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>>382961353
frankly WoW is even more uninteresting these days with its moba tier classes that all play the same
i wish we could have gotten a real FFXI 2, but I settle for this because I like the story/atmosphere/visuals/music
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>>382960958
At which point you move your camera so the patrol is near the center of your screen, at which point X will target it. You can also move your camera so that the patrol is the next enemy when you tab left or right.
Controller play is full of little optimizations like this, instead of just trying to tab through everything manually
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>>382961353
>opinions
>opinions
>raids in wow are semi decorated rooms with long empty halls full of shit trash
The only nice looking raid they ever made was Ulduar, everything from molten core, blackwing lair through to trial of crusader and twilight citadel were all boring as fuck instances
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>tfw no Minfilia sloppy blowjob
>tfw no footjob from Y'shtola while she wears a cold expression
>tfw no genki Yda giving you a handjob while sparring
>tfw no forced deepthroat to Tamamo whenever we want
>tfw no F'lhaminn delicious and sweaty sex
>tfw no Moenbryda rough anal
>tfw no Alisaie dressed up like Alphinaud thighjob
>tfw no quick and pragmatic quickie with Jessie
>tfw no titjob from Yugiri
>tfw no double handjob from Higiri and Tsubame
>tfw no Rowena rewarding you from bringing her tomestone with a blowjob
>tfw no Merlwyb reverse rape
>tfw no Kan-E-Senna loving missionary sex for breeding purposes
>tfw no Raya-O-Senna handjob while she's angry
>tfw no Nanamo sex while Rauhban the cuck of Ala Mhigo watches
>tfw no Lucia celereum pussy
>tfw no Hilda mixed pussy
>tfw no Fordola rape where you mindbreak and turn her into your cockslave
>tfw no Yoyutsu loving rape where she becomes a loving woman again
>tfw no Lyse yelling "ITS NOT FAIR" while you ejaculate inside her endlessly

HE'S GOING NUCLEAR
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>>382959728
Why is Lyse so shit?

All she ever does it whine and stand around with her ugly potato face, she was cute when she had the mask on.
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post optimal rotations for sam and rdm
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>>382961802
He really is going nuclear soon.
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