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Nintendo:
>Takes down AM2R
>Steals content and ideas from AM2R to their 3ds game (even though this is also a remake of metroid 2)?

Could it done the same with other Nintendo fangames, like one day Nintendo would take down super smash flash 2 and super smash bros crusade and Melee Light and along with other smash bros fan games and then steal their content and ideas to their smash bros game.
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>>382904754
>Steals content and ideas from AM2R
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OP
>is a ragin cajun flaming faggot
>Steals ideas from other anons to their /v/ topic (even though these same arguments have been made before?)
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Well, bump.
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>>382904754
Shut the fuck up about AM2R

>oh geez I wish Nintendo would gives us more Metroid
>>Nintendo starts work on Metroid II remake
>>Fan remake comes out with all of it's assets stole from Zero Mission
>>Well we have to protect out copy right
>Grrr wtf Nintendo!! Why did you take it down? Even though you let him make it for 10 years and let him release it before asking him to stop I hate you!
>>Nintendo shows off Federation Force and mentions it was only 1 of the 2 Metroid games they were working on
>Wow fuck you Nintendo!
>>Nintendo finally shows off the other Metroid game and shows why it asked the AM2R Dev to stop
>>Nintendo Also announces a new Prime
>Wow fuck you Nintendo! This fan remake that uses stolen content is much better then you're completely different game!!!

AM2Rfags everyone
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OP is a faggot
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>>382905598
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From the way the situation looks, Nintendo wasn't even aware of AM2R until it started getting reported on gaming news sites and gained traction on social media. Since they were already 2 years into developing their own Metroid 2 remake they immediately shot it down.

Nintendo does not need to protect copyright the same way they do intellectual property, so that claim is bogus. But they also didn't intentionally let AM2R release, that's not in their interest and there's only been an increase in their legal action against fan-games since AM2R. They just didn't pay any attention to the thing until it was directly competing with their own Metroid game releasing that August and when it became mainstream enough for even Nintendo's lawyers to notice it.
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pray tell, what ideas does it steal from AM2R?
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>>382904754

How did they steal content from a game that's a remake of an already existing game they made?
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>>382904754
>Steals content and ideas from AM2R
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I can't believe DoctorM64 is fucking dead.
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>>382905969
>What actually happened is bait
AM2Rfags everyone
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>AM2R fags actually believe Nintendo is stealing from them
It's clearly the other way round, are people really that deluded?
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>>382907660
Samus Returns is the SAME FUCKING GAME as AM2R.

It's pretty obvious that Samus Returns only exists because of AM2R.
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>>382908676
You must be literally blind if you think Samus Returns looks anything like AM2R.
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They legally have the right. Sorry that it blasts your booty, but that's Nintendo for you. Maybe these devs should make their own games instead of spending years making bootlegs of applied trademarks and promoting them online.
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>>382904754
>All that shit regarding Smash
Every fan made Smash Bros is heavily influenced by Melee standards. Sack of Shit doesn't like that form of Smash Bros gameplay so they would never just take a fan game's ideas and make it their own. He'll just stick to his casual mindset and add 20 FE characters instead. So don't talk nonsense like that, I doubt that would be a concern anyways.
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>>382904754
>>Steals content and ideas from AM2R
This is why no one takes you AM2Rbabbies seriously
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>>382910124
Replace Sakurai with someone else.
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>>382910124
Samefaggotry will get you nowhere.
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Post tubes!
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>>382910720
Did someone say cylinders?
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Why the fuck would anyone waste their time on fanmade games in the first place? The majority of them aren't very good.
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>>382910594
Hmm, I'd like to know where I committed this act you speak of, since that was my first post in this thread. Or are you assuming I'm the faggot OP? In the event that's the case, take a look.
>>382910556
>Implying Sakurai would allow it when Iwata himself tried to port Melee to the Wii if Sakurai refused to make Brawl.
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>>382904754

>Steals content and ideas from AM2R
if only
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>>382908676
>>Game with completely different level layout and gameplay elements is the same as a fan remake that's 1:1 with stolen assets

It really makes you think
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Why do metroid threads constantly alternate between shit and somewhat decent?
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>>382905969
shut your mouth you pony boy
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>>382911858
Because people cling to a singular game instead of enjoying the whole series.
>Inb4 >>enjoying Other M
You know what I mean
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>>382911589
Why is every technologically advanced species in Metroid so retarded?
>x parasites on SR388
>chozo create a nearly indestructible parasite to eat the x parasite

Why would you use your genius to create a bio weapon with a mind of its own?
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babby samus is cute
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>>382912916
Those eyes!
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>>382912916
>tfw you will never cuddle her, pack her lunch and drive her to school
Why live
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so much falseflagging
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>>382904754
am2r was taken down less than a year ago so it's likely that Samus Returns was in development when they took it down.
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>steal ideas
>from almost a 1:1 fan remake
>While Samus returns is not even a 1:1 remake and is more a reimagining of the original game. The map has nothing to do with the original game and new mechanics are brought.

Nice try faggot.
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>>382905598
The lengths people will go to throat nintendo's cock is absolutely insane.
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Hyper Metroid is better than AM2R anyway
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>>382914259
"my husband adam, miscarried child"
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>>382914619
Because the silly story automatically makes the actual game not good, right?
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>>382914828
Nah, just poking fun at it.
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>>382904754
Ayo I wanna get into metroid, how's the order of games goes again? I'm playing Zero Mission right now.
So it's Return of Samus then Super Metroid then Prime Trilogy then Fusion? Should I just wait for this or just go to AM2R?
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>people actually shit talk AM2R
This is why no one likes /v/.
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>>382915003
I would try out the original Metroid 2 first then play AM2R
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>>382915003
It goes
Zero Mission > Prime Trilogy > Return of Samus > Super > Fusion
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>>382915003
If you wanna play a fangame go ahead with AM2R. Otherwise its fine to skip 2 to return to it, the story is summerized at the start of Super anyhow. The order is correct though
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>>382915003
See>>382915284


Play the GB version or wait for the 3DS remake. 2 is covered in the beginning of 3(Super). Play official versions then try out AM2R if you still care
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Samus Returns looks fun! fun!
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>>382915420
There's literally no reason to play the GB ver over AM2R.
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>some guys in their basement make a fangame with a budget of 5 dollars
>Nintendo can't even match the quality of said fangame even though they have billions of dollars and thousands of developers at their every beck and call

That's my main issue. And no, don't tell me to "wait until it comes out". I've seen enough rancid stinkers from Nintendo to know when a game is gonna be seriously flawed. I'm sick of giving bloated corporate entities the benefit of the doubt when they don't deserve it.
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>>382915284
>>382915330
>>382915340
>>382915420
Thanks senpaitachi
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>>382904754
>Steals content and ideas from AM2R to their 3ds game
Good, I like what AM2R did and more stuff from it like one button morph ball should be stolen
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>>382915510

That space jump desperately needs the blur effect thing from the other games.
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>>382915578
the sprites not taken from nintendo's games look PC flash game tier

>>382915550
to play Nintendo(the creator of the series fyi) original vision and not some fans? yes. Play AM2R after you played the games made by Nintendo then AM2R if you still care and want to see how a fan tackles it
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>>382915510
This parry shit is fucking stupid.
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>>382914991
Oh, well, go ahead then.
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>>382915824
>the sprites not taken from nintendo's games look PC flash game tier
And since even the lowest quality PC flash game surpasses every single Nintendo game out there, how is that a bad thing?
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>>382915824
>Nintendo(the creator of the series fyi) original vision
AM2R is the creator's original vision cause its a 1:1 remake of fucking Metroid 2.
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>>382915643
One Button Morph Ball was from Metroid Prime
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>>382915939
>its a 1:1 remake of fucking Metroid 2.
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>>382916056
So then why are you saying to play GB ver when there is a better ver?
You're not telling him to play NES Metroid over Zero Mission.
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>>382915848
I think it's optional so dont worry
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>>382904754
Kill yourself, AM2R faggot
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>>382916225
It better be optional. All it takes is one enemy, just one, that can't be killed without it, and I'm instantly trashing the game.
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>>382915848
Then don't use it you fucking crybaby.
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>>382915284

>2 comes after the entire prime trilogy
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>>382916329
It does.
How do you not know the Metroid timeline?

>>382916225
>>382916310
>who cares if its cancerous shit, its optional XD
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>382905598
>>Well we have to protect out copy right
Dipshit drones keep repeating this bullshit, this is not how law works.
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>>382916310
>>382916225
I think the main issue alot of people have is that they wasted time and money on a mechanic that already trivializes the entire combat system by making it "press x to win" tier. It's retardedly easy to counter every single enemy we've seen, especially when the treehouse streamers were more than capable of doing it, and they have the intelligence of a valve playtester.

Combine that with the aeion abilities that trivialize everything else about metroid (a button that auto-finds all hidden collectibles, a button that instantly restores all your health anywhere and any time, a button that instakills all non-bosses) and you've got a game that's guaranteed to be a hallway simulator and nothing more. When I ignore all of the casual trash, I'm left with nothing else because they forgot to put anything else in.
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>>382916329
Word of god, that's where the games are placed. Hunters is placed between Prime and Prime 2, and FUCKING SOCCER takes place after Prime 3. Prime 4 is supposedly going to be taking place after FUCKING SOCCER as well.
The series is stuck in prequel hell.
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Why does everyone have a problem with the Melee Counter?
I understand that Other M left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, but this isn't quite the same as that. I think it's an interesting addition. It could be a little less cinematic when countering Metroids, but you can't have it all I guess.
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>>382916603
Yeah, they're wrong that it's about protecting copyright. It's about protecting their branding, which is far more important, something you autistic NEETs don't understand.
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>>382916652
>The series is stuck in prequel hell.
Metroid: Dread never.
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>>382904754
>>Steals content and ideas from AM2R
>even though all the footage that's been shown for the game differs severely from AM2R
Stop being a piss baby. It's fine if you don't like this game but don't blatantly lie about shit you know is wrong
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>>382916792
They aren't protecting shit.
Most normal people got super pissed off with Nintendo when they axed AM2R.
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Metroid 2 was the only reasonable game for Nintendo to remake, and so they were probably already building this new game when AM2R came out, which is why they gave a shit (especially considering MercurySteam had been pitching Metroid shit to Nintendo years before the announcement).

(Why was Metroid 2 the only game it would be reasonable to remake? They already remade 1 by way of MZM and the few remaining fans they had would be furious, myself included, if they thought they could improve on actual perfection by remaking Super Metroid)
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>>382916927
>actual perfection
>super
Super Metroid can't be perfect when romhacks make it better.
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>>382916763
It trivializes every single counter, that's the problem. You should never be allowed to interrupt an enemy's attack at any point. Samus isn't about le ebin god of war takedown button mashing. She's supposed to be an agile warrior dodging monsters firing acid and plasma in her direction. Sure, her power suit is strong, but it's not herculean. She shouldn't be able to singlehandedly drop a 500 ton monster effortlessly.

It's honestly no better than a god of war that's the size of a mountain, but it dies in a few quick time events.
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>tfw like AM2R
>still going to buy Samus Returns
>also have pic related preordered
I pity you for not being able to have fun.
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>>382915696
>>382915848
that doesnt matter! fun is what matters!
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>>382916646
On the bright side think of all the new speed running tactics people can make
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>>382916792
Which is funny because AM2R is a better game than most of the things Nintendo publishes. They could just make it official, have it as a free download on the eShop and get a bunch of goodie points among their consumerbase as Good Guy Nintendo for zero effort. All it would require is an ounce of common sense.
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>>382912358
You forgot one thing
>the contrarians that infest /v/ defend Other M and call it the best game purely out of concentrated spite
/v/'s been like this in general for the last 3-4 years at least. It's a damn shame
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>>382916424
I bet you're the kind of person that bitches about things like the Kid Mode in that Spiderman PS1 game.
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>>382917206
I never played that game.
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>>382917089
I really dislike how zoomed-in it is. It's like those GBA Sonic games, can't see shit ahead of you!
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>>382915003
Play the original Metroid 2 (or at least for an hour or so if you get bored with it) and then play AM2R. Samus Returns seems like it's still an option given how different it is compared to AM2R.
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>>382916792
brand protection in gaming is only for most retarded, normie consumer who isn't able to differentiate a fan game from an actual published game. Since those normie retards and kids don't even know what AM2R is it doesn't matter at all.
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>>382917020
>She's supposed to be an agile warrior dodging monsters firing acid and plasma in her direction.

Too bad in most Metroid games you can just stand there and tank whatever a boss throws at you unless you're doing a low % run or something.
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>>382917119
That's not happening. Sakamoto hates speedrunning. That's why he specifically put in countermeasures against it in Metroid: Other M, and even Metroid Fusion. Zero Mission also had some preventative measures to stop speedrunning, but not to the same extent. Something about "ruining his artistic vision" last I recall.
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>>382917417
>Hates speedrunning
>Games reward you for completing them in under 2 hours
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>>382917417
>and even Metroid Fusion. Zero Mission also had some preventative measures to stop speedrunning
>he doesn't know about 15% runs
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>>382917391
That's why a good Metroid game would be challenging. We gave old Metroids a pass on this because of hardware and time limitations, but it's 2017, they shouldn't be making these mistakes anymore. The fact that, in Samus Returns, you ONLY take one tank of damage from a zeta is pathetic. It's disgusting really. They're not even that hard to dodge, how casual do you have to be to need that much of crutch? At least in AM2R you can modify enemy damage to do as much as you want.

>>382917570
That likely wasn't his decision. You can also see Samus in her zero suit if you get 100% collection.
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>>382904754
>AM2R steals from Nintendo
>Nintendo shuts them down
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>>382917374
>Since those normie retards and kids don't even know what AM2R is
Are you kidding? When it came out it got a lot of promotion, plus is is STILL getting updates.
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>>382917629
Sakamoto is an idiot who couldn't find a way to close off Zero mission. Trust me, I know. Try doing a 1% run on Fusion or Other M, though.
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>waaaaahhhhh aaaaaarrrrrrrgh nintendo let a fan game be completed and released then made the guy not work on it anymore, that totally means the game never came out and they murdered the guy I'll never ever be able to play this fan game not at all!!

>>382917143
>everything not made by Nintendo is the best ever and shits all over everything nintendo makes! How?! Why?! fuck you i'm not saying roflcopter eat cocks Nintensucker!

Jesus Christ, when did you people completely lose your fucking minds?
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>>382917671
>Nintendo shuts them down
>game continues anyway despite Nintendo's whining
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>>382917020
>timing the melee counter is button mashing now
You people are trying too hard to shit on this game
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>>382917417
Explain Zero Mission's intentional sequence breaks that can inevitably lead to faster times then
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>>382914259
Is there a version of Hyper that guts the abhorrent story
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>Steals content and ideas from AM2R
AM2R stole content and ideas from Zero Mission and Metroid II. Also, AM2R was trash.
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>>382905598
>Nintendo shows off Federation Force and mentions it was only 1 of the 2 Metroid games they were working on
when did this happen. They said they would LIKE to do a game about Samus ans Sylux, but that isn't a confirmation of a game. only of a concept.
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>>382917861
>AM2R was trash
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>>382911445
Idgi. Pls explain
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>>382917930
It really was. It did everything wrong that Zero Mission did wrong.
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>>382917974
Like? I want some concrete examples.
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>>382917760
Nice goalpost moving
>you can't speedrun ZM
>actually you can because of these design choices
>Sakamoto is an idiot anyway!
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>>382917950
The word is "Tubes" with a lot of u's
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>>382917950
T
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>>382911589
>mfw the Ing actually attack with light laserbeams
The fact that this could be what actually happened is hilarious
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>>382918018
The shitty "original" bosses for one.

Also is there a worse fan base than a Metroid? The only one that comes to mind that hates the creator of the games they love to hate is Smash bros.
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>>382917818
The game was finished and released, dipshit. nintendo waited two days before telling the guy he can't work on it anymore.

AM2R IS DONE AND OUT AND YOU ALL HAVE PLAYED IT AT LEAST TEN TIMES. ENOUGH WITH YOUR FALSE-FLAGGING "NINTENDO STOPPED HIM FROM MAKING IT" HORSESHIT, THEY ALSO KNEW IT WAS BEING MADE FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS.
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>>382917760
The game has rewards for 15% runs and numerous shortcuts that only exist to bypass otherwise required items.

The only gating you can't bypass is getting the power grip, unknown items and the stealth section. And even the latter has hidden shortcuts.
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>>382918191
What do you not like about the original bosses.
You have to explain your choices.
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>>382918191
But the original bosses were all generally pretty good
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>>382918018
>Useless, shitty power-ups like the Power Grip, Super Missiles, and Power Bombs
>Completely lacks atmosphere by looking like a cartoon and having a soundtrack that isn't spooky at all
>Completely lacks challenge
>Has a map that's at best loosely inspired by the game it's purporting to be a remake of
>Added shitty bosses
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>>382917831
>>382918069
I said he TRIED to make it restrictive in Zero Mission. I don't know why he failed, but I'm just saying, Sakamoto is a man who doesn't care about video games. He just wants to make artsy movies, as any iwata asks interview would show you. Why the hell do you trust him with another Metroid game?
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>>382918210
>AM2R IS DONE AND OUT
Actually no it isn't.
It still receives regular updates.
Stay mad kid.

>>382918303
>Completely lacks challenge
Since when did ANY Metroid game have challenge?
>shitty power-ups like the Power Grip, Super Missiles, and Power Bombs
>super missiles
>power bombs
>shitty
Power Grip wasn't even in AM2R.
>looking like a cartoon
You mean looking like every other metroid game before it?
>Added shitty bosses
What about the bosses is shitty?
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>>382918295
>Genesis
>Chozo Tank
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>>382918303
>Useless, shitty power-ups like the Power Grip, Super Missiles, and Power Bombs

Did you throw shitfits about the Super Missiles and Power Bombs back in 1993?
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>>382918536
Chozo Tank isn't even a boss. It stays on the screen for maybe 10 seconds and isn't even more than a speed bump.
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>>382918276
>>382918295
>this shit
>good

In what universe does this look like a Metroid boss? It screams fan game.
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>>382918303
>actually implying Super Missiles and Power Bombs are bad (Power Grip is already there in AM2R by default)
>AM2R doesn't have the same stylization as ZM, best seen in the Metroid sprites
>Actually does have challenge if you didn't pick Normal like a retard
>M2's original map sucked shit and it needed a restructure to at least make up for the in game mapping feature
>the new bosses are legitimately good and challenge the player in unique ways, even adding nice mechanics to pre-existing bosses
Stop trying to act smart
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>>382918303
But getting the best two endings of Zero Mission is far harder than getting the best ending of Metroid 1, and it's got the most complicated puzzles in the series.

The games got problems but the ones you're citing just showcase that you ran through the games basic sequence on easy or normal mode and didn't even attempt to look past the surface. Which would be fine if you weren't trying to pass Zero Mission off as casualized garbage that's too easy and linear for a hardcore Metroid veteran like yourself, but that's what you're getting at.
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>>382918303
>Useless, shitty power-ups like the Power Grip, Super Missiles, and Power Bombs
Yet it's okay when Samus Returns has these items?

>Completely lacks atmosphere by looking like a cartoon and having a soundtrack that isn't spooky at all
Gameplay is more important than atmosphere. You might as well complain that it doesn't have enough cutscenes.

>Completely lacks challenge
Vanilla AM2R I can see your point, but 1.3.0 will argue otherwise.

>Has a map that's at best loosely inspired by the game it's purporting to be a remake of
And? It's changing it for the better.

>Added shitty bosses
There isn't a single bad boss in the game. Yes, I am defending the chozo tank, Torizo, and Genesis. They all had their unique quirks and were entertaining to fight against. Shoot, their only problems were that they didn't have alot of HP.
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>>382918671
What do you not like about this boss.
Tell me.
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>>382918519
>Since when did ANY Metroid game have challenge?
The original and 2, Superbabby.

>Power Grip wasn't even in AM2R.
You can grab ledges, that's the Power Grip. The Power Grip slows you down and completely trivializes platforming. Super Missiles and Power Bombs are nothing but additional keys on a bloated keyring.

>You mean looking like every other metroid game before it?
The first three Metroid games had atmosphere. Metroid Prime had atmosphere. ZM and AM2R did not.

>What about the bosses is shitty?
They weren't in the original game. AM2R purports itself as a remake, but then it adds fan-created bullshit.
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>>382918303
>Useless, shitty power-ups like the Power Grip, Super Missiles, and Power Bombs
All of those are in Samus Returns

>Completely lacks atmosphere by looking like a cartoon and having a soundtrack that isn't spooky at all
Samus Returns isn't faring much better on this front.

>Completely lacks challenge
Melee Counter

>Has a map that's at best loosely inspired by the game it's purporting to be a remake of
Why does a remake have to have a completely different map? Even Zero Mission's map is "loosely inspired."

>Added shitty bosses
You can bet Samus Returns will also have new shitty bosses.


>>382918519
>Power Grip wasn't even in AM2R.
You start with it dude.
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>>382918519
>Actually no it isn't.
It was finished and released.
>It still receives regular updates.
That doesn't mean it wasn't finished and released.
>Stay mad kid.
Nice projecting there, you're the people who keep saying it was prevented from being finished and released.
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>steal their content and ideas

You posted this with a straight face I bet.
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>>382918191
>Also is there a worse fan base than a Metroid?
Halo, have a hate boner for 343, try to act like ODST and Reach were better than Halo 1-3 and think they were even remotely good, constantly not shutting up about fan games (sounds familiar). I hate both the 2D Metroid fanbase and the FPS Halo fanbase, /v/ can never have good threads because the site is so shit.
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>>382918536
Chozo Tank is nothing more than a mini-boss made to add tension to the escape
>shitting on Genesis
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>>382918519
>Power Grip wasn't even in AM2R.
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>>382918816
>Metroid 1 and 2
>challenging
They weren't challenging at all. I beat them as a fucking child.
The only thing "challenging" about them is the shit controls. And I STILL liked them.
>Super Missiles and Power Bombs are nothing but additional keys on a bloated keyring
K, I'm done. This is obvious fucking b8.
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>>382918897
>>382919018
I think he means that it isn't a separate pickup like in ZM. It's just a base mechanic that's technically carried over from Fusion
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>>382918747
I'm not defending Samus Returns. It looks like shit.

>Gameplay is more important than atmosphere.
Stopped reading there. Leave Metroid threads and never return.
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>>382918981
>liking Genesis

Boy fuck interesting designs, give me a generic robot contraption that spams bullet hells in my Metroid game
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>>382918671
>It screams fan game

No shit, Sherlock, it's IN a fan game.
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>>382919084
I wasn't going to respond to tell them obvious shit.
Thanks man.
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>>382917793
Who are you quoting?
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>playing AM2R Random Game mode
>first pickup is Power Bombs
>literally every boss right up until the Tester dies in one or two Power Bombs
Power Bombs OP
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>>382919102
>Stopped reading there
Metroid is only as good as its gameplay. Atmosphere is for those people who think games need to be "artistic movies". Again, if you want story-related trash in a video game, then I suggest you go read a book instead.
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>>382918816
Just because it adds bosses not in the original doesn't automatically make them bad. Hell, the fact that they even barely fit into the standard lore is a testament to how good they actually are. You forget that SR-388 was once inhabited by Chozo so of course it'd retain a lot of their defense machines.
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>>382919140
Genesis isn't a robot, it's a lizard thing
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>>382919293
My bad, I got it confused with the Tester or whatever
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>>382919140
Why are you responding when you don't even know which boss is which?
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>>382919140
>Genesis
>robot
Nice job confirming you never played AM2R, faggot
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>>382904754
I just hope they make mother 3

Fuck the "they stole x idea from something someone is doing illegally!" Ahit
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>people hating on AM2R's bosses
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>>382910124
it's actually Sakurai's wife who makes the menus, not Sakurai himself.
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>>382919371
>>382919392
Guess that speaks to how forgettable they were :^}
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Wait, AM2R is still getting updates?
What the fuck, I thought 1.1 was the final revision
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>>382919480
>jokes on them, I was only pretending
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>>382919405
>I just hope they make mother 3
wut? You mean the game that's been out for years?
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>>382919480
If they were forgettable, you wouldn't have been immediately called out on your shit, stop being a binch
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>>382904754
Why did AM2R comply with the C&D? Why not "leak" the completed game?
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>>382919356
>the Tester
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>>382919218
The atmosphere is integral to the series. Metroid was inspired by Alien, it should be just as spooky and convey a sense of isolation and loneliness.
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If you guys hate like more than half of the games in the series, the you're not really fans.

I swear some of you only like Super.
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>>382919482
Of course it still gets updates. And its only gotten better.

>>382919616
Because the game was already out and had been reposted all over the internet.
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>>382919482
It's more fan updates than anything, but it's pretty quality content. Here, let me pastebin the changes.

https://pastebin.com/6WJWB6Xa
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>>382918214
Fixed that for you.
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>>382919638
This.
Also Aliens is shit.
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>>382919662
I like every game in the series except Other M and SOCCER.
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>>382919406
>le meme bullethell boss
It's shit
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>>382919482
Well, it was. It stopped again. It was receiving unofficial updates after the source code was reverse engineered. The current version is 1.2.10
It's mostly bug fixes, but a New Game + and Random Game + was added.
New Game + starts you as normal but with the lava drained down to just before the final Alpha Metroid. You have to clear the Golden Temple through the Power Distribution Center in order to proceed.
Random Game + mode adds item randomization on top of New Game + rules. You are garunteed to get either the Screw Attack, Bombs, or Power Bombs in the Golden Temple in order to prevent permastuck situations.
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>>382919556
I meant release it here in the West, at least officially
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>>382919689
>>382919791
Holy shit I'm gonna have to dip my toes into this. Random Game + sounds right up my alley
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>>382919770
This. Why come up with interesting attack patterns when you can just have a boss spam projectiles?


Whatever. It dies with like 3 power bombs anyway.
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>>382919638
The gameplay can do that just fine on its own by having enemies that are strong and having their strength properly scale with Samus's. For example, in AM2R, even when you get the screw attack, it kills alot of enemies, but it can't hurt omega metroids. That's a nice detail that I like as it balances gameplay to prevent it from being too easy.
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Overall, I don't mind Samus Returns existing. I don't mind people enjoying it. If it turns out better than I expected, I might enjoy it myself. I just hate the shills who think AM2R can't co-exist with Metroid 2 SR.
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>>382919875
>It dies with like 3 power bombs anyway.
I don't know what bullshit you're talking about.
I used all my power bombs on it and it didn't even break the exterior barriers.
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>>382919861
It's pretty fun, but once you get a few key items it just kinda turns into a regular game.
If you get Power Bombs first, be careful how you use them, because there are a lot of permastuck situations because of respawning bomb blocks and low PB ammo.
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>>382919770
>>382919875
He's my favorite boss though. If you don't skip him to get the power bombs, he's decently challenging. And what is this hate against bullet hell bosses. Would you rather it be a quick time event?
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>>382916603
That is literally how the law works. Copyright can wear down the more you let people use it without your permission. It gives a precedence that other people can do the same thing, with them potentially losing the copyright all together. If you don't enforce your copyright why bother having one?
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>>382920075
>Copyright can wear down the more you let people use it without your permission
Literally not true.
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>>382919734
>not understanding the password joke
You fixed nothing.
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>>382920075
That's trademark, you meme lord.
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>>382919903
The screw attack can't harm bosses in any metroid game, how is that a point for AM2R?
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>>382919162
Ever read any of these bait threads? It's what every AM2R-worshiping faggot says.
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>>382920202
It's more of a general thing. That's something I'm glad he didn't change. Although you're kind of wrong, since Emperor Ing can be one shot by screw attack.
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>>382920032
This is basically what I did

https://youtu.be/iOWJwR_v2Dw
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>Prime 4 announced for development
>everyone but Dobson shuts up

>Samus Returns announced
>"waaah but muh fangame"
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>>382920413
That's not 3 power bombs.
That's damage boosting, power bombs and super msisiles at the same time.
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>>382920075
>Copyright can wear down the more you let people use it without your permission. It gives a precedence that other people can do the same thing, with them potentially losing the copyright all together.
THAT ONLY APPLIES TO TRADEMARKS
THAT ONLY APPLIES TO TRADEMARKS
THAT ONLY APPLIES TO TRADEMARKS
THAT ONLY APPLIES TO TRADEMARKS
THAT ONLY APPLIES TO TRADEMARKS

fucking armchair lawyers
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>>382920071
>And what is this hate against bullet hell bosses. Would you rather it be a quick time event?
Why do you faggos always jump to SR when discussing AM2R?
I don't like bullethell bosses because they feel lazy. "Don't bother making attack patterns just slap in a thousand Projectiles an call it a day". Torizo felt much more engaging than Tester.
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>Emperor Ing can be one shot by screw attack.
wut
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>>382920484
Why's he upset? Was he hoping for Other M 2?
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>>382920797
Yeah actually
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>>382920797
>Was he hoping for Other M 2?
Yes, actually.
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>>382920728
His legs contain weak points that each shave off a fifth of his health. It was intended earlier in development that you would kill him this way, but I guess that was abandoned.
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>>382904754
You forgot the most important point
>developed by MercurySteam

Metroid fans status: completely cucked.
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>>382920830
Why hasn't he killed himself yet?
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>>382920645
>I don't like bullethell bosses because they feel lazy.
On the contrary, I love them because they require you to keep on your toes. I can see it being boring if every boss was like that, but variety makes gold.

>>382920728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LXR65pP0IA
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>>382920484
>dobson
Stop giving him that manchild any more attention
>Prime 4 announced for development
>everyone but Dobson shuts up
Because we've only seen a jpeg. Wait until a real trailer drops and and watch as shitposting ensues
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>>382920830
He's a huge feminist and hates seeing women be treated badly, why the fuck does he love Other M so much?
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>>382921235
He's a hypocrite who only acts feminist to earn brownie points
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>>382921089
>Because we've only seen a jpeg.
and a fact sheet. dunno why Retrobabbies are scared a competent team are doing what they're supposed to do unlike the same team that did Prime 3?
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>>382920931
>>382920991
What the fuck
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>>382921235
this is why
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>>382920909
Jesus fuck did he serously forget that you can make potions in BotW whereas you have to take damage no matter what in Other M?
What is wrong with this idiot?
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>>382921425
man, japs really love Prime Hunters
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>>382921572
>What is wrong with this idiot?
who knows? ask his friend Alex
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>>382921425
They argue about the weirdest shit I swear
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>>382921608
Not really. Compared to Other M and SOCCER, Hunters is an amazing game.
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>>382920484
I feel nothing but pure, distilled hatred towards this fucker.
Everything that comes out of his shitpile of a brain is nothing but garbage.
When will he die?
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>>382921489
Was that faggot even paying attention when playing?
Samus' characterization in Other M was crap, alternating between being a whiny bitch and a robotic monotone, like someone blended Ayanami Rei and Shinji Ikari.
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>>382921890
>I feel nothing but pure, distilled hatred towards this fucker.
everyone else feels the same about him desu
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>>382921824
Hunters is just as bad singleplauer wise. It's only saving grace is that the hunters themselves look pretty cool.
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>>382920909
>Link can make potions that grant temporary heat resist and has to unlock the permanently heat resistant clothes in the desert town
>Samus' suit has built-in heat protection but she doesn't use it because daddy Adam told her that she should just let herself get boiled alive
HOW IS THIS THE SAME THING YOU DUMB SACK OF SHIT
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>>382921305
>dunno why Retrobabbies are scared a competent team are doing what they're supposed to do
They still think that Retro is the same as it was 18 years ago
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>>382921773
Less of an argument and more of people not knowing how to deal with the letter V because their language doesn't have that sound. Frankly, it's preferable to the retarded shitpost arguments that happen in our threads, but they have those too, sometimes.
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>>382917914
The E3 they showed Federation Force they said they were also working on another Metroid game
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>>382920484
I seriously wonder if he has ever actually played Prime.
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>>382918974
>have a hate boner for 343

That's good though
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>>382913902
It's also likely that it wasn't.

It wouldn't take long to hire a developer who already has a ready-made engine for this type of game-play on this very platform, and then deploy a pretty short game that already has all of the major design work done (because it's a pre-existing product). Also, this is the 3DS, it's not like the assets needed for that are as taxing to produce as they would be for home consoles.

With all this in mind, I just simply can't believe this was on the docket for any longer than the moment that C&D came out.
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>>382922401
>Metroid Prime is in first person
>Those dudebros that bullied me in school like FPS.
>Therefore Prime is garbage.

I'm pretty sure that's Dobson's thought process.
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>>382904754
I still wonder....how Nintendo still lets Sakamoto be near of Metroid franchise despite the fuckup he did with Other M
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remaking metroid 2 was just a low hanging fruit for anyone and AM2R guy was just unlucky enough that he released his shit the same year as nintendo.

the metroid II color hack is like the most popular GB rom aside from pokemon. the game has literally always needed an upgrade fans have been doing it for decades. it just finally became a good time to market a 3ds remake so nintendo finally bit. it's the same as the FFVII remake. of course it would get made eventually its just a matter of time
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>>382922665
because the people who are "curious" about Metroid 5/post-Fusion keeps giving him second chances
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>>382922401
Nope. He hates Prime just because it's an FPS
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>>382922665

Because no one else at Nintendo besides Tabata wants anything to do with Metroid.
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>>382922959
Duh because Metroid is poison in Japan.
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>>382922909
But it's about as far away from a generic FPS as you can get while still being in the first-person perspective and being able to shoot things.
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>>382923164
Don't try to rationalize it. You'll just hurt your head.
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>>382923164
I wouldn't bother. Moviebob and Tom Preston have an irrational hate of FPS type games. If you could argue some sense into them, it wouldn't be irrational, now would it?
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>>382923064
>Metroid is poison in Japan.
literally wrong
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>>382923164
He has an irrational fear of anything remotely similar to an FPS because the bullies at his school used to play them.
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>>382917089
holy shit this game actually looks good.
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>>382923417
I remember Bob slamming Prime for being "one of the most creatively bankrupt genres in video games" which hammers home fifty times over that he never actually played it.
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>>382923428
So... because Fire Emblem does worse than Metroid, Japan loves Metroid?
That logic doesn't fly. Its been a fact for a long time that Japan doesn't really dig metroid.
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>be SR-388 Chozos
>Oh fuck there's the X parasites, how do we counter them
>Make Metroids
>Manage to (temporarely) control them, almost driving the X to extinction
>Got words of Tallon IV Chozos getting butt fucked by Phazon
>"Hey Metroids worked for us, it could work for them"
>Send them a Metroid so it could take care of Phazon like it did with the X, the Tallon IV chozos reluctantly agree
>It doesn't work, in fact it mutates it and make it aggressive
>Oh shit it got worse, better seal the whole thing
>Let's contact the SR-388 Chozos about it
>Why are they all dead
>The Metroids overran them
>Their faces when
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>>382923612
>Japan adores Fire Emblem
>Metroid gets better sales than Fire Emblem
>"Nah, Japan hates Metroid"
Does not compute.
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>>382923545
After all the pointless shitflinging I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not.
I hate this fanbase.
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>>382923785
Just assume everyone who likes Samus Returns is a shit-eating buttfaggot and ignore them.
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>>382923739
>Japan adores Fire Emblem
Apparently not the games listed in your pic. Cause those numbers are abysmal.
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>>382923724
>>Send them a Metroid so it could take care of Phazon like it did with the X, the Tallon IV chozos reluctantly agree
did this actually happen or what
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>>382923724
That's not how it worked.
Metroids didn't arrive on Tallon IV until the Pirates brought them. Metroid Prime is just a huge plothole that will never be closed.
The Chozo just straight up abandoned SR388 after introducing Metroids to take care of the X.
Just like the Chozo straight up abandoned Tallon IV after creating the Cipher.
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>>382923892
Assume anyone who likes this series at all is a shit-eating buttfaggot and we won't have any problems.
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>>382923940
I had headcanon that Phaaze itself snatched a Metroid using a reality warp
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>>382923785
If they're saying stuff like "this doesn't look too bad, I might give it a try" assume they're a fan on the fence who wants to give the game a chance. If they say something like "omg this is the best thing ever AM2Rfaggots BTFO!" then assume they're a shill and discard their opinion immediately.
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>>382923892
Fuck off
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>>382923940
Nobody knows where the Metroid Prime came from, it couldn't come from the Pirates batch, in fact it's said it absorbed Phazon for a long period of time. I'm just trying to find something plausible.
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>>382923892
>legitimately enjoy all the games in the franchise.
>except other m and federation force
>loved AM2R
>can't wait for Samus Returns
am I a shit-eating buttfaggot?
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>mfw the AM2R devs are extremely hyped for Samus Returns, believe they kept the fandom alive and inspired Nintendo to bring back Metroid

>mfw autists on /v/ are splitting the communities instead of appreciating all the games

you all are dumb as fuck
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>>382922502
Not when you ignore the actual good that the studio did, and actively ignore some of the bullshit Bungie did, it's as bad as /v/'s Sakamoto hate.
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>>382924018
I say that about all video games.

>>382924072
People who like everything are worse than bisexuals.
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>>382924170
>>mfw autists on /v/ are splitting the communities instead of appreciating all the games
This already happened with the imaginary 2Dfag/Primefag split.
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>>382924040
Metroids weren't introduced to Phaaze until Dark Samus brought the Pirates there, and with them came Metroids.
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Oh my god, after I made this thread and a few posts, the thread filled with a lot of posts, that was fast!
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What kind of extra scenario could they add to Samus Returns like Zero Mission did with Chozodia?

it doesn't have to be another stealth section
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>>382924301
Baby metroid parenting minigame.
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>>382924170
Some of us don't like the direction of Samus Returns, and Nintendo has alot of gall to tell us that we're not allowed a say in what we consider good about the series.

>hard mode? Available from the start of the game? YOU ENTITLED LITTLE PRICKS!

It screams unprofessionalism.
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>>382924301
>it better not be another stealth section
ftfy
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>>382924395
ZM's stealth section was great, fuck the haters.
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>>382924392
yea and you scream autist

enjoy the fucking game, it looks good
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>>382924392
>>hard mode? Available from the start of the game? YOU ENTITLED LITTLE PRICKS!
What?
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>>382924301
Haha, time for ZERO SUIT SAMUS
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>>382924395
I agree, The novelty of the stealth section wears out after your first play through
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>>382923940
>The Chozo just straight up abandoned SR388 after introducing Metroids to take care of the X.
Actually no, they stilled lived on the planet after the Metroids released, they left SR-388 when the Metroids turned on them.
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>>382924536
Here it is!
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>>382924579
*still
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>>382924637
pls post original
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>>382924395
Agreed
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>>382924637
who would when?

ShinihS or DoLnLoD
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What if Prime 4 expands the lore of a new faction like the Kriken Empire? Apparently they are both against the Space Pirates and the Federation.
>Pirates set up a base in a soon-to-be battleground between Feds and Krikens
>Get fucked up by both
>Data logs complaining about how it's just as bad as that time there were two Hunters on Aether
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>>382924637
Why is every Metroid doujin so shit? its always forcful rape shit with space pirates. I want vanilla shit with her and Adam
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>>382924170
The AM2R whiners are a very small minority that practically doesn't even exist. The other day I was interested in how big the cry to boycott Samus Returns was, so I searched "boycott Samus Returns" on twitter and literally every single result was people telling people not to boycott it.
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>>382924392
>Some of us
So you mean like 3 of you?
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>>382924579
There is literally no proof of this.
There's literally no proof of anon's claim either.
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>>382905969
Go back
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>>382924392
>hard mode? Available from the start of the game? YOU ENTITLED LITTLE PRICKS!

That means Super Metroid is also unprofessional because it doesn't even HAVE a difficulty option. Nintenfuck can't do anything right, ya know?
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>>382924392
>hard mode? Available from the start of the game? YOU ENTITLED LITTLE PRICKS!

When did they say that?
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>>382925000
Proofs are in the hints left behind, why did the Queen Metroid destroy the Chozo statue with the Ice Beam in the original game? why did the Chozo want Samus to destroy their creation? why didn't the ecosystem recover once the Metroids took care of the X? Yeah I think my points stand.
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>>382924828
>>382924557
>>382924395
>people still this angry about something that lasts 2 minutes tops

God damn you people are little bitches.
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>>382924301
Samus actually finds a band of survivors from the GF missions and has to rescue them.
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>every enemy runs toward you now so you can do your counter
>the window to do it is wide as fuck

WHY
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>>382925268
Who says the Queen destroyed that statue?
The Chozo didn't want Samus to destroy their creation, the Federation did.
Because the fucking Metroids were taking out everything.
Your points are as flimsy as straws holding up a castle.
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What was his plan?
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>>382924860
Prime 4 is going to focus on why Sylux holds a vendetta for the feds and why he stole a baby Metroid in Federation Force

with Tanabe saying the Phazon stuff is completely over and Prime 4 supposed to bring the story to new directions, this supposed to be the where Prime 4 starts branching out more clues to the other unraveled stories like the corrupt federation, why the kriken empire are a race of tyrants, and etc.
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>>382925495
Because Nintendo are incompetent.
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>>382925495
>every enemy runs toward you now
why do you autists complain about this? every metroid game does this. every time an enemy sees you they rush you its been like that forever. Its just now the game gives you something to defend yourself against it and now you hate it
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>>382925527
an hero
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>>382925668
That's not true at all.
Most enemies in metroid mindlessly walk in a pattern.
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>>382925495
>the lowliest of enemies are easy to counter
>local fauna shouldn't bother to defend its ecosystem
STOP THE PRESSES
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>>382925527
Break through the glass.
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>>382925501
>Who says the Queen destroyed that statue?
When she sees that you're killing her babies she does this.
>The Chozo didn't want Samus to destroy their creation, the Federation did.
Why did the Chozo create the Ice Beam then, it wasn't created just to show the damn thing off? Hell Samus Returns has a Metroid gate to place their DNA in, what more proff do you need?
>Because the fucking Metroids were taking out everything.
The Metroids were a violent species that can't be controlled, this was shown in Metroid Zero Mission and Super Metroid what makes you think the Chozo could somehow control them if no one else could?
>Your points are as flimsy as straws holding up a castle.
You can't even come up with concrete answers to challenge my points.
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>>382925527
he was a horny Zebesian think he could give birth to a nation by getting impregnated by a sperm-shaped Space Pirate ship, so he made a jump for it
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>>382925495
Who cares really.
You would just spam the beam or jump over it. I don't get how the counter is this a big deal
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>>382925784
Geemers, Zoomers, and Rippers do that. Everything else reacts to Samus and either directly attacks her or shoots projectiles at her. And nobody had any problem with that until now when you have an optional move to counter it.
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>>382924637
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>>382926117
>>382926139
these
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>>382926139
>And nobody had any problem with that
So why is a counter move even in the game at all?
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>>382926139
This, I'm glad it's not Other M's Sense Move.
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>>382926147
DIOOOOOOOOOOOOORTROID
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>>382926290
It kinda is. It has a giant window in which to do it in and apparently automatically gives you a charged shot.
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>>382926235
so people can have more OPTIONS too approach the game how they want
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Who here is going to buy Samus Returns day one?
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>>382926381
Wrong.
Its to dumb down an already easy game.
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>>382926354
>apparently automatically gives you a charged shot.
No. After the counter it just automatically puts the reticle on the enemy. you have to shoot it yourself
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>>382926147
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>>382904754
>Samus Returns
>not Return of Samus
ITS FUCKING RUINED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>382926467
>you have to shoot it yourself
Ok but its still a charged shot. So its exactly like sense move.
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>>382926354
It's not a charge shot, it's a crit and you have to shoot right after or it goes away.
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>>382926428
pirating it when it inevitably leaks out a week before release
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>>382925495
>>382926432
oh yeah,
>jump over ground enemies
those sure are some
>shoot a dude twice and keep walking
complex combat encounters
>activate speedboots and barrel through literally fucking everything
we're missing out on
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>>382926235
>>382926432
Why are you so afraid of change? Why do you ask for arguments if you're just going to dismiss them?
Why are you such insufferable nostalgiafags?
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>>382926609
>nostalgiafags?
How can I be nostalgic for something that came out last fucking year?
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>>382926432
>oh no he's making reasonable argumets what do I do!
>I know I'll just shout wrong and dismiss it completley, genius!
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>>382926778
Did you forget where you were?
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>>382926918
my b
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you think Waluigi fanboys would bitch how his very first game isn't like or as good as the Psycho Waluigi fangame?
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>>382927137
>Waluigi fanboys
They exist?
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>>382927137
Come on retro reveal the game you are working on, better be a waluigi game.
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>>382927307
you weren't around when Mario Maker started to leak the costumes?
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>>382927458
>Waluigi Country: Pinball
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>>382925668
>instead of fix the problem we now make it even easier to win the game

I expected this with a Kirby reaction image.
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>>382927478
I was around I just don't give a shit about Mario?
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>>382926354
No it's not, in Other M you could never get hit, these you can.
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>>382927638
enemies werent a problem for you guys before why is it a problem now?
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>>382927649
Not really.
In Other M you could get hit if you don't touch the controller.
In Samus Returns you can get hit if you don't touch the controller.
If you do touch the controller in either game you cannot be hit.
Sounds the same to me.
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>>382927638
>you still have to press a button twice to kill a lowly enemie
>easier
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>>382927752
That was the issue. They should be a problem that requires dealing with. And yes, this was an issue even back in Super Metroid. I gave it slack for being a really old game, but in 2017 they shouldn't be repeating their mistakes. I'm sorry if it's "problematic" that the video game have some kind of difficulty, but I don't like watching cinematic experiences that play themselves.
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>>382927759
I don't think you played Other M, if you wanted to beat enemies in Other M all you needed to do is hit the dodge button and walla, in Samus Returns you either have to time the Melee Counter right of try jumping like all other 2D Metroid games.
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>>382928178
>in Samus Returns you either have to time the Melee Counter right
You mean like timing Sense Move? There is no actual dodge button.
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>>382928289
>defending Other M's shit mechanics
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>>382927902
>It's [the current year] you guys come on!!
If you want difficult games you're with the wrong company buddy.
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>>382928178
>walla
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>>382928351
>defending
I'm saying both are shit you retard.
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>>382928403
>games shouldn't be about difficulty, they should be "artistic experiences" for the younger crowd
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We don't have nearly enough hands on impressions to argue about how strict the timing window on the counter is.

Wait for a demo or something instead of talking out of your ass about how easy a game we've only seen E3 Treehouse footage of is, fucking Christ. Especially when we've only seen areas from the first half of the game on what's presumably the normal difficulty setting.
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>>382928403
>AM2Rfags.png
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>>382928626
But AM2R was challenging
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>>382927902
How do you want the enemies to be more difficult? Dodging all of your attacks unless you fire in that split-second window of vulnerability? No flinching so they barrel through your attacks and you right after? A ton of health? Only certain weapons harm them? They do 3x their normal damage? Energy tanks only give you 25% of their usual amount? No Missiles? No Bombs?

You're the one demanding difficulty, explain how you want it to be difficult, because just screaming "MAKE IT HARD!!" doesn't help.
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>>382928493
But one is far less shit
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>>382928679
so?
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>>382904754
Nintendo:
>takes down an unlawful use of their ip
>uses ideas from the unlawful use to improve for an official release

and, no, Nintendo would never do that with any Smash clone because none of them add anything other than pure aesthetic difference
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>>382928536
You certainly love putting words in people's mouths.
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Honestly AM2R keeping the "Metroids can only be damaged with missiles in specific spots" design but making you have only 7 directions to shoot in was fucking awful and should have been changed
Nintendo turning Metroid fights into scripted bullshit doesn't fix this though
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>>382928761
>If you want difficult games you're with the wrong company buddy.
>>AM2Rfags.png
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>>382928536
>any video game
>difficult

Why don't you get an actually challenging hobby, son?
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>>382928796
>uses ideas from the unlawful use to improve for an official release

Because Samus Returns obviously only needed three months of planning, layout, design, modeling, texturing, rigging, programming, etc, right?
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>>382928536
>company has a history of making games for children and suitable for all audiences.
>complains that said company doesn't do what HE wants instead of looking for other games from other companies that may suit his tastes better
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>>382905598
Reggie pls go
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>>382928178
>the dodge button
There is no dodge button in Other M, you just hold the stick in a direction
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>>382928695
No they are exactly the same mechanic. Avoiding taking a hit and doing a retaliatory hit.
They are both shit and equal amounts of shit.
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>>382928890
oh, you thought i was part of some reply chain you're dealing with?
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>>382928536
nobody is saying that
also you referencing tumblr regarding this is proof of how much of a fucking clueless newfag you are

inb4 im not a newfag anon, ive been here all summer!
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>everbody complaining that Samus Returns looks too easy
>it comes out
>it turns out to be the hardest metroid ever made
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>>382929072
Oh, sorry
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>>382928685
>Dodging all of your attacks unless you fire in that split-second window of vulnerability?
Yes, and for slower enemies, have them be well shielded so you can't just mash a button and kill them instantly.

>No flinching so they barrel through your attacks and you right after?
Yes, as a matter of fact. That's objectively more fun because you can't stunlock them or abuse high knockback weapons. It makes the battle 2 sided, so you have to dodge his attacks while he's dodging yours.

>A ton of health?
Only if you're at a point in the game where your weapons do a high amount of damage, so the battle lasts at least longer than a minute.

>Only certain weapons harm them?
It worked with the metroids.

>They do 3x their normal damage?
Yes. A zeta should do more than 1 tank of health. It's supposed to be the third strongest metroid alive, not some pansy larva.

>Energy tanks only give you 25% of their usual amount?
AM2R actually has a modifier setting with this, it's pretty fun.

>No Missiles? No Bombs?
Limiting the drops makes you greatly appreciate the ammo you have, so yes I think that's a good idea.

>You're the one demanding difficulty, explain how you want it to be difficult, because just screaming "MAKE IT HARD!!" doesn't help.
You listed plenty of great ideas.
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>>382928890
I'm assuming that he's complaining about how AM2Rfags shit on MSR instead of playing their own meme version.
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>>382929146
>it turns out to be the hardest metroid ever made
That wouldn't be difficult. Every single metroid game is easy as shit.
Samus Returns could be moderately hard and it would be the hardest Metroid ever.
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>>382929020
MOM mechanic: completely dodge everything from every enemy and deliver an instant-charge shot and it's all completely automated
SR mechanic: swing your arm in a shallow arc in front of you and have to keep pressing buttons to follow through or else nothing happens

Totally the same, ACfag, totally the same. Isn't there a Zelda thread you could be shitting up right now?
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>>382929265
Prime 2 was pretty hard but the 2d games are pretty dang easy.
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>>382928905
>>382928961
It's a legit criticism. just because nintendo is known for casual games doesn't mean they should be given a pass to continue making casual games. Is it really beyond them to make something challenging? Will Miyamoto die of a heart attack if a kid is unable to beat a Mario game? Will Sakurai cancel Kid Icarus Uprising 2 if a Kirby game accidentally has a hard mode that isn't casualized?
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>>382929146
It's probably gonna be the same thing as Zero Mission and Fusion.

Surprisingly a good challenge to get the better endings on the unlockable difficulties, but because you gotta play on normal first and the casual first playthrough likely follows a rigid path it'll be called shit by a huge chunk of the fanbase who doesn't bother with it after that first run.
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>>382917914
In 2014 Reggie said they were working on a 3D Metroid and a 2D one. Guess what games they announced in the following years?
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>>382929146
but anon, nobody here played Federation Force
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>>382929304
>and it's all completely automated
No it isn't. After you dodge you need to release the fire button to fire your charged shot.
>keep pressing buttons
You mean one button? The fire button?
Ok so the difference between the two methods is one involves pushing the fire button, one involves letting the fire button go.
You sure showed me anon!
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>>382929304
>MOM mechanic: press buttons and a cinematic happens
>SR mechanic: press buttons and a cinematic happens

Yes, it is the same.
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>>382929000
The same fucking difference.

>>382929020
You get shot in Other M, Sense Move
You get shot in Samus Returns try to Melee Counter, still get shot and take damage.

Yeah they really are the same.
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Does this mean we're getting an official Streets of Rage game?
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>>382929547
>SMB mechanic: press a button to jump
>SR mechanic: press a button to jump
WOOOOW NINTENDO FUCKING COPIED MARIO
WOOOOOOOOOW
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>>382929220
>I can't think of anything so yeah every single thing you said should be in at once

How about they just make a Rayman-style Metroid game, would that please your difficulty autism?
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>>382929690
Stop being a faggot. Melee Counter was very obviously the next iteration of Sense Move.
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>>382929690
At least there's a chance of you dying when you jump. When even a Valve-tier playtester can beat your demo without dying too many times, your game is way too casual.
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>>382929750
>would that please your difficulty autism?
And here it is. If you don't want your game to hold your hand like Call of Duty and Uncharted, you're "autistic". How positively lovely.
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>>382904754
Goddamn you people are fucking retarded. The very reason AM2R EXISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE is because it was considered a given that Nintendo would eventually remake Metroid 2. Because they remade the original Metroid with Zero Mission. They didn't steal anything from AM2R. If anything AM2R stole most of its assets/design from Zero Mission, Fusion, and Metroid 2. Which is to be expected of a fan game made by one guy, of course.

AM2R was a good fan game but it's not worth this fucking autism. Even the creator of AM2R himself doesn't agree with you.
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>>382904754
>Steals content and ideas from AM2R

What the fuck are you even talking about?
AM2R fags are the worst, I just want a metroid dread
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>>382929758
Not him but it's a better iteration of Sense Move.
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>>382929781
>without dying too many times

Oh, so now we're moving the goalposts to "A demo has to kill the average player X number of times for the game to not be the magic meme word of the day".

>>382929547
You have to keep pushing buttons in SR, dipshit, it's obvious you had the video on mute the entire time you were watching it. And it does nothing to stop projectiles or enemies coming from behind. Seriously, ACfag, SEVEN FUCKING YEARS OF YOUR ONE NOTE NEVER-CHANGING HORSESHIT.
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>>382925527
CRASHING THIS PLANE
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>>382929992
>I just want a metroid dread
You and me both brother, good news is that I expect to see it in 2019, the same year as Metroid Prime 4.
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>>382929921
NO YOU NINTENDO-COCK-GOBBLING SHITTER THE NIP JEWS RIPPED EVERYTHING OFF OF THAT POOR GUY AND LEFT HIM WITH NOTHING AM2R WAS HIS DREAM AND HIS BABY AND NINTENDO KILLED IT AND HIM BECAUSE THEY'RE DEVILS WHO HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THEIR JOBS FAR BETTER ONLY THE FANS CAN MAKE WHAT WE WANT FOR FREE ALL GAME COMPANIES ARE EVIL AND MUST DIE TO SAVE OUR HOBBY!
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>>382917668
i didnt know fan patches counted as doc's game...
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>>382930065
>Oh, so now we're moving the goalposts to "A demo has to kill the average player X number of times for the game to not be the magic meme word of the day".
You really don't understand the idiocy of a treehouse streamer, do you? these people actively praised Federation Force AND Other M, saying that they were great at "getting rid of those problematic videogamey elements" from older Metroids. So yes, if they're not dying enough, the game isn't hard enough.

>You have to keep pushing buttons in SR, dipshit,
Yes yes, they added button mashing into their quick time event. How challenging. We God of War now.
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>>382918974
Nigger ODST was good tho not better than 3 but it was good and Reach was cool
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>>382929921
>the very reason AM2R EXISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE is because it was considered a given that Nintendo would eventually remake Metroid 2

nigga are you retarted
by that logic they made yooka laylee because it was inevitable rare would make another banjo game
which is wrong, stupid boy
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>>382929425
> just because nintendo is known for casual games doesn't mean they should be given a pass to continue making casual games
Why should they change their succesful way of making games just because you want to? As I said earlier, if you don't like their stuff because it's easy then why don't you play different games? In the case of metroidvanias you have tons of games way more challenging than Metroid games, including AM2R
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>>382904754
I don't understand why you can't just play and enjoy both. Fucking autists.
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>>382930278
Considering that doc's game is in itself a fangame, any fan patch that actively improves it can be considered part of it. That's the fun of a PC game, it's not restricted to one person or one group. Anyone is free to improve it. It's the only reason minecraft, skyrim and fallout are playable.
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>>382930291
But ACfag, difficulty has nothing to do with gameplay so why do you want it in? If it's difficult then you die which means that control is being taken away from you and you hate when control is taken from the player. Why can't you be consistent with your rantings?
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>>382930338
>Why should they change their succesful way of making games just because you want to?
I never said they should? I mean, this is what difficulty modes are for. Let little timmy play on easy, but devote all the game's resources to harder difficulties. Yet this is somehow an unfair request.

>As I said earlier, if you don't like their stuff because it's easy then why don't you play different games?
I do, all the time. Is it such a crime to ask Nintendo to improve themselves? You have every right to say it's dumb, but on the same note I have the right to ask nonetheless.

>In the case of metroidvanias you have tons of games way more challenging than Metroid games, including AM2R
I would at least appreciate it if discussion of AM2R could occur without Nintendo shills and porn posters.
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>>382930596
>difficulty has nothing to do with gameplay
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>>382930336
That analogy is dumb, you're dumb, don't call anyone stupid ever again. Yooka Laylee is not a fan game you massive faggot.
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>>382930713
If a game is difficult, you die.
Dying takes control away from the player.
Anything that takes control away from the player is not gameplay.
Ergo, difficulty is not gameplay.
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>>382904754
>they stole the content of a remake of a game they already released which they own they ip of

how can you steal something that you own by right?
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>>382930915
>this is actually how nintendo thinks
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Unpopular opinion: I think Samus Returns looks great and I can't wait to play it.
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>>382930840
it's a game made by people who openly wanted to emulate a pre-existing title that was getting no love from the company that owns it, so they made what was essentially a fan game, but replace stolen designs and assets with original ones so they were able to turn a profit. that analogy makes good sense to me desu
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>some boy-o doesnt know metroid has a difficulty select and show floors are on easy 95% of the time

Cant wait for hard mode. Probably gonna replay this a bunch is its as good as ZM was compared to M1
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>>382931005
No, this is how ACfag works, payattention to the reply chain.

ACfag despises everything that's not gameplay. He wants music, sound effects, voices, loading, title screens, text, graphics, everything except gameplay removed from games. But now he wants difficulty, which is not gameplay, making him a hypocrite.
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>>382931169
>it's like this other situation except it's completely not
>this is totally a good analogy you guys
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What is the latest version of AM2R?
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>>382931243
I don't know what the fuck ACfag is, but difficulty is actually part of gameplay.
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>>382930915
>>382931243
Have you resorted to falseflagging now, ACfag? Come on, let us have our thread in peace.
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>>382931304
>minor differences that don't affect the analogy
anon, i think you might just have difficulty understanding more complex analogies
have you ever been tested for autism? do you have trouble understanding sarcasm?
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>>382930390
so that's the argument now?? a game with more fan mods outclasses a yet-to-be released game?

At this rate, why isnt Super Metroid the best game ever? It's been unpacked to hell and back and reconstructed into several different games.

>inb4 you cant change bosses or some shit like that
I'm sure X-fusion would prove u wrong.
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How did Metroid threads go from being comfy as fuck a couple of weeks ago to being cancer again?
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>>382931341
>I don't know what the fuck ACfag is

Must be your first day on /v/ and in a Metroid thread. Every single one that gets made ever since Metroid Other M came out has had him show up in it to tell us that everyone loves MOM, that all video games are movies, and that everything but gameplay must be removed from games. He also ignores and twists everything said to him so he can keep up his ravings.

For seven straight years he's been doing this, and now he's doing it to Zelda threads beause Breath of the Wild broke his mind somehow.
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>>382904754
Why are people so mad about Nintendo taking down AM2R? With a quick google search you can easily find the game. Samus Returns was in dev for at least 2 years(2015). Instead of Nintendo trying to hire the am2r dev MercurySteam should've done it instead, they even speak the same language and all wouldn't that be great? With that said,
I never played the original Metroid 2, enjoyed AM2R and I'm looking foward for Samus Return.
Super, and Zero Mission were great, although the day someone manages to someone comes with a romhack to remove the linearity and the dialogue from Fusion the game would go from a 8/10 to a 9.5/10 at least.
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>>382931653
all the career shitposters were focused on Crash
Now that it's selling well it isn't worth shitposting about
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>>382931701
Oh I know that guy. I called him Other Mfag.
Where does ACfag come from?
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>>382931585
>so that's the argument now?? a game with more fan mods outclasses a yet-to-be released game?
Considering the yet-to-be released game has alot of issues already showing from the demos, and the track of both Sakamoto and Mercury Stream is unsettling, I'd say that's a fair assumption.

>At this rate, why isnt Super Metroid the best game ever? It's been unpacked to hell and back and reconstructed into several different games.
jokes on you, I think it's one of the best games ever when you give it modding potential. Metroid: Super Zero Mission and Hyper Metroid represent. Shoutout to X-fusion whenever that gets finished.
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>>382930309
They both sucked and damaged the franchise with their bullshit. Reach more so, Reach is the only Halo that feels straight up dated even compared to Halo 1 and 2.
>slow as shit
>film grain
>motion blur
>sub 30 fps on 360
>jaggies up the ass
>muted colors
>feels like I'm fighting the controller when I play
Somehow Halo 1-5 feel smooth jumping in but Reach just felt off, ODST had the same problem along with that weird arcing throw with grenades. Their terrible storylines didn't help.
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>>382931830
Super Metroid Redesign is best hack.
The early versions at least. Later versions made it retarded.
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>>382931809
The term comes from Assassin's Creed, because apparently he doesn't like it when other games try to do an open world, which is why he hates Breath of the Wild. I think.
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>>382931653
>niggas want to falseflag left and right about a game that was playable start to finish on release
>They really love the damage modifiers, new game+ and item randomizer(which can get u permastuck) which are all patches that werent done by Doc
>hurr can any metroid compete? not an unreleased game we've seen maybe 15% of, nuh-uh! Late game Enemies need to take off 3+tanks in one attack
>speed booster isn't in!? SR confirmed for shit!

Now i am sad about the speed booster possibility but still
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>>382924174
343 has done nothing good for Halo
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>>382931809
He's obsessed with Armored Core.

>>382931729
It's shitposting, pure and simple, because AM2R was NOT taken down, it was NOT stopped, and it's on my computer right now and I played it a few hours ago. Anyone who says anything about AM2R being "stopped" is trolling.
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>>382904754
>Nintendo is evil HURDUR

cool story bro.
Remember that one time when Sakamoto was caught masturbating to a Samus dakikamura?

Or when Retro Studios saved our GAMER SOULS with the Metroid Prime series just because they are like us fellow Americans?

Or that one time when someone said Metroid Fusion was good on the internet and ended up with their head stuck in the toilet?

Fuck this fandom.
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>>382931943
>The early versions at least. Later versions made it retarded.
Care to explain?
I was going to play SM redesign yesterday but noticed there was a different version. Whats the best one for someone who wants a good challenge but nothing stupid hard? I have played all the other metroids usually over and over so I'm experienced enough.
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>>382931968
>>382932103
Kek. My mind went to Asheron's Call.
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>>382931968
Not even close. The AC stands for Armored Core.
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>>382932148
https://drewseph.zophar.net/
This version.
This is the version I play and it feels like Super Metroid should have felt.
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>>382932103
>>382932168
>>382932180
Armored Core isn't open world though.
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>>382931830
Fuck your argument, but Super ZM was great despite some flaws. Redesign too. A loot of the others just reek of shit map design.

X-Fusion pls.
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>>382930603
>I never said they should?
You sure made it like that
>You have every right to say it's dumb, but on the same note I have the right to ask nonetheless.
I guess but they're still not going to change any time soon.
>I would at least appreciate it if discussion of AM2R could occur without Nintendo shills and porn posters.
That's never not going to happen
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>>382932378
alright thanks, why this one though? I saw that axiel thing but it seemed iffy
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>>382932468
Because later versions like Axiel just started adding shit everywhere to make it stupid hard.
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The fuck does AM2R even stand for
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>>382932087
Jesus her skin looks fucked. That space cancer sure did a number on her.
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>>382932381
Open world literally has nothing to do with it. That wasn't his M.O. at all.
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>>382932087
I want to fuck phazon corrupted samus
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>>382932551

Another Metroid 2 Remake
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>>382932448
>>382932448
If you were around when it released, ppl loved it and even made stealth threads. I'm sure the game got a few more ppl interested in metroid at the least.
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>another fag making another AM2R thread
You know what's funny is the dev hates you faggots. You preached about your love for the franchise, but as soon as Nintendo puts out a product you find something else to bitch about.

Just kill yourselves and make everyone happy.
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>>382918191
>Also is there a worse fan base than a Metroid?
Fire Emblem
and i'm including whiny Jugdralfags along this too
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>>382932691
Of course the devs (Nintendo) hate AM2R fans.
How dare someone like a fan game more than the original product.
Nintendo can suck a dick. They want my money? Make a game that's better than a fucking fan game.
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The real question is: who would win in a fight?
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>>382932819
He was probably talking about the dev of AM2R
You know, the guy thats excited about SR?
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>>382915284
So what's the deal with the Chozo? This timeline is crazy fucked if you throw in Prime and Super Metroid.
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>>382932929
Why are moths so fluffy and cute
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The same fucking thing happened with Streets of Rage Remake, but then everybody was just happy it came out at all.
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>>382931968
>>382932381
>The term comes from Assassin's Creed, because apparently he doesn't like it when other games try to do an open world, which is why he hates Breath of the Wild. I think.
all wrong. It's mean "Armored Core faggot"
he bails the ship over any game that dares to have at least one second of a cutscene or qte
also calls games like BotW, Ninja Gaiden Black, Xenoblade Chronicles, and Bayonetta "movie games" using compiled Youtube clips as an argument
he embraced the name "ACfag" due to his obsession of From Software games and using the same old Armored Core/TF2 images he posts in the thread he finds
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>>382932102
Halo 5's multiplayer while not better than Halo 1-3, it's better than the shitfest that was Reach and Halo 4 along with Forge. You see this is the kind of shit I'm talking about in Halo threads in /v/.
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>>382932947
They are the ancient speciecs that made all the shit you explore in 1,2,and 3. Also in prim 1.
They arent any more or less fucked either way really, what makes you say that?

Honestly I wouldnt mind seeing another tribe or faction on a new planet. Maybe still all about war
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>>382933663
Where does Samus tie in with the Chozo? Lore on old games and Prime 1 point to her being raised by them as a child or at least teenager, with the Chozo being the ones to make Samus's power suit.

Or did they retcon all that shit with the federation games?
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>>382933298
I fail to see the issue here. I thought games having gameplay was a good thing, and not being movies.
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>>382933854
Samus was a people then ridley blew them the fuck out.
Birds found the samus and saved her and raised her for several years at least unless she had quick growth from the bird DNA.
Stuff happens then space pirates and a powersuit from all the best chozo tech and the birds are ded.
Do work for the GF meet a jerk and then go become space warrior.
Que Metroid 1
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>>382920075
That only applies to trademarks, not copyright or patent. It only applies to trademarks to a limited extent and within certain particular bounds.

Besides, who the fuck would accuse Doc Metroid of damaging the Metroid brand? A third party can't do violence to a brand if the owner of the brand are actively running it into the ground for a decade.
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>>382929265
u wot m8

I know it's dated as fuck but I tried Metroid on the NES for the first time and it's ridiculous

>shooting farther is an upgrade
>get stuck on red doors because I thought missles would open them
>no wait except they do it just fives for some damned reason
>always start with 30 health no matter how many enemy tanks you have
>70% of the enemies hug the ground just so you can't hit them
>sequence breaking (though fairly manageable) is damn near mandatory if you don't want to eat shit

It's a miracle I'm having fun with this
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>>382933971
Because in your world there is only black and white, right ACfag?
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>>382932929
aw, that's a cute moth face
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>>382935419
NES Metroid isn't hard. You just get lost.
Once you know where everything is, the game becomes easy as fuck.
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>>382935419
Play the Famicom Disk System version.
It has actual sounds and save files.
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>>382935467
>there is only black and white?
Never played it.
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>>382935419
Have you never played Super Metroid?
Of course red doors take 5 missiles.
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>>382914164
Welcome to nintendogaf
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>>382935658
I'm calling bullshit until you get the Varia suit

>>382935673
I believe you but I gotta justify this eshop purchase anon

>>382935772
For some reason, I wanted to beat Metroid first.
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>>382932819
I was speaking about the AM2R dev. He finds all these "Fuck Nintendo" comments, post, etc to be retarded and probably feels ashamed to be consider part of that fanbase.

Protip: You can enjoy both. MSR existing doesn't prevent AM2R from being played.
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>16 metroids left
>only 1 hour

its gonna be short isnt it?
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>>382936013
All Metroid games are short
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>>382935940
I don't even get the Varia suit until after I've killed Ridley.
Its not hard.
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>>382935996
Of course it prevented AM2R from existing, Nintendo shut it down ebcause they were angry this one guy made something superior to everything they've ever made so they threatened him and destroyed his work after stealing all of its ideas for their own shitfest of a game.
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>>382936102
What the fuck, how the hell did you manage
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>>382936013
>All Metroid games are beatable within a few hours
>people even speed run to make it minutes
>"Hurr it's going to be short!"
I fucking swear /v/ has really become newfag central.
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>>382936013
>hurr
It takes an hour to 100% metroid 2.
1 hour
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>>382936228
Cause the flow of the game goes like this.
>Get missiles near norfair entrance
>go to norfair
>get high jump
>get wave beam
>go to ridleys lair
>kill ridley
>get varia
>go to kraid's lair
>kill kraid
>go to tourian
>finish game
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>>382936387
>>382936230
>>382936090
I was gonna buy this as my first metroid game. I never played the series before. Sorry
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>>382936387
>>382936230
>>382936090
It's just kinda worrying that they won't add a bit more content to pace it out. Again, this is a flaw that should be worked on, not a feature to be embraced.
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>>382917793
>everything not made by Nintendo is the best ever and shits all over everything nintendo makes!

but this is unironically true
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>>382936013
>18 minutes
>4%
>40 minutes later
>5.3%
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>>382915284
This doesn't make sense, just based off of Ridley's appearances. So he either gets phazon-fied in Prime 3 but is back to his normal state by Super Metroid, or it was all just bullshitted.
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>>382935750
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>>382905598
>>Nintendo shows off Federation Force
>>Wow fuck you Nintendo!

perfectly reasonable. Really they deserved worse
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>>382936532
They already said there will be new content.
Expect each area to have about twice as much to explore along with 1 or 2 brand new areas. All with new bosses throughout. Just like what ZM did
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>>382936815
prime isnt canon
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>>382936013
someone here literally beated ZM under an hour
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>>382936897
Fuck off Dobson.
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>>382936815
Ridley in Super is a clone of the original. Same goes for Kraid and MB

>>382936897
>muh misinformation
Oh you.
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>>382936891
With Sakamoto in charge? We'll be lucky if we get even one new area, and it'll probably be a cutscene where Samus "expands her relationship with the baby" (actual quote from Sakamoto).
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>>382937056
>im a faggot
Thats going to be after you beat the queen and escape boy-o. You know the very end of the game?

The extra area is going to be the federation landing point and probably a new cavern where you find the 2 missing teams from the original.
Maybe even a tie in to fusion since its the same planet.
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>>382937023
>>382936815
Ridley has super-regeneration, Phaaze blowing up didn't bother him because he was already more organic than metal in Corruption. By the time Super happens he'd completely healed and regenerated.
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>>382936815
>submerged to the ground after his defeat
>phazon had healing properties
>back to normal, like Samus was in the end of MP3
>que Ridley in Super Metroid
simple as that

>>382937023
>Ridley in Super is a clone of the original
fan theory shit, don't listen to this fag

>>382936897
fucking retard
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>>382937207
Extra gameplay that isn't hot garbage? From Sakamoto? You wish.
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>>382937226
don't forget the fact Phazon has healing properties which literally boosted (Omega) Ridley's regeneration factor to overdrive
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>>382937246
>fan theory shit, don't listen to this fag
Then please explain how there was ANOTHER mother brain idiot.
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>>382937207
>The extra area is going to be the federation landing point and probably a new cavern where you find the 2 missing teams from the original
You mean the very same extra content that was in AM2R?
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>>382937369
>muh boogeymans
Its going to be as good as ZM.
You know the most casualized game of the 2d series?
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>>382937594
>the most casualized game of the 2d series?

but that's Fusion
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>>382937532
I highly doubt the fusion stuff would be similar to AM2Rs rendition and would probably not be in at all otherwise it breaks the lore of the X being brand new in fusion.
The federation stuff actually happened in M2 so whats your point?
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>>382937489
Space Pirates just recreated her from scratch
or are you forgetting about Master Brain and the fact even the feds had a special data based on Mother Brain's psychic waves?

literally not that hard to make another Mother Brain
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>>382937594
>Its going to be as good as ZM.
So hot steaming garbage?
>>
>>382937735
>a game that can kill you vs the easiest game in the series
Really rumbles my bumbles.
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>>382937735
Fusion had more grueling bosses and did stealth right unlike Zero Mission tho
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>>382937743
My point is the extra content you describe is the extra content that was in AM2R and not in the original M2.
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>>382937764
>master brain
You mean a field generator?
Theres nothing that says it is anything like Mother Brain, which is a chozo AI

>muh psychic waves
Except space pirates were fine before MB was around, and everything the feds knew in OM turned out to be conjecture and them being portrayed as a bumbling military that has no idea what its doing. So why do you think they got that right when clearly its not from literally every other game in the series?
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>>382936013
You must never played a 2D Metroid game before.
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>>382915848
>It's different therefore it's bad
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>>382938074
Only the fusion tie in.
The feds landing first and sending two teams happened in Metroid 2's story way back when it released.
What the hell is with you people?
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>>382938074
Wrong, shitface. The Feds sent a science team then a military team to SR-388 before they sent Samus because both teams disappeared. This was in the original M2's instruction booklet.
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>>382938026
>did stealth right

Doing stealth right means there would be some actual sneaking involved. The first two SA-X encounters are solved by just standing still when it shows up, and she's going to notice you in every other encounter no matter what.
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>>382938317
>The feds landing first and sending two teams happened in Metroid 2's story way back when it released.
Yes but in AM2R you can actually visit the landing site. You could not in GB M2.
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>>382938172
>Theres nothing that says it is anything like Mother Brain
are you really gonna argue that while pulling shit out of your ass like "pirates cloned mother brain"
again, they just did another Mother Brain. Nothing else, nor any official info of pirates stealing cloning tech from the feds.
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>>382924637
>there are people here who would bone the left on over the right
Cyclops is thicker and better
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>>382939018
So the fan game took content from M2's story and made an area about it.
SR is going to take content form M2's story and make an area about it.

Whats the issue?
>>
>>382939224
There is no issue. I just noted that what one anon wanted was the exact same shit that was already in AM2R.
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>>382939141
>stealing cloning tech
Are you dense. The LEADER of the space pirates is a hyper advanced chozo AI that manage to overthrow their planet. A hyper advanced AI that not only returned to contiinue fighting but returned with his 2 mightiest generals you defeated before.

>but space pirates rebuilt ridley and kraid too
Yeah thats WAY more believable then simple cloning technology even the shitty GF could figure out.

Are you seriously going to argue that the smartest chozo creation to ever exist cant do cloning tech but the GF can?
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>>382937903

>dying in any of the post-Super games

Fusion has the computer to open all the doors for you, it's the most casual
>>
Why?
Why this pointless tribalism?
Why can't we like both?
Or, at the very least, consider both.

I'm so goddamn tired of everyone feeling like they HAVE to hate something simply because they like something else.
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>>382939406
>was the exact same shit that was already in AM2R

Oh you already saw the content in SR?
What a shame they copied the cut scenes and rooms identically.
Idiot
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>>382939564
>liking more than one thing

Disgusting bisexuals.
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>>382939550
And ZM has checkpoint markers on the map along with the weakest enemies in all the games.
So either more linear or less difficulty. They are both casual boy-o and so was AM2R and SR will be as well.

>everything is casual now so I can shitpost
What a time to be alive.
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>>382939564

Nintendo put themselves in the anti-AM2R tribe, blame them
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>>382939789
Video games by their very intention are casul, it's a children's hobby for children. Stop hanging your lives and identities and personal worths on a kid's toy.
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>>382939827
Preach it, brother, Nintendo is terrified of the fans and what they can make, and rightfully so. Video game companies should fear their consumers.
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>>382939789

If all you care about is beating the game, then almost all Metroid games are super casual. The only non-casual aspects of them are sequence breaks and advanced techniques, both of which Fusion went out of its way to eliminate. Therefore it is most casual.
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>>382939531
>The LEADER of the space pirates is a hyper advanced chozo AI that manage to overthrow their planet. A hyper advanced AI that not only returned to contiinue fighting but returned with his 2 mightiest generals you defeated before.
and this STILL says nothing about Space Pirates cloning a fucking Chozo AI

>>but space pirates rebuilt ridley
Ridley has a fucking healing factor that heal's his shit up to 100%. why would they rebuild something that isn't even a bioweapon aside Weavel or the mechanization backup Ridley received in Prime 1?

nothing was said about Kraid's feats and i wouldn't even bother to jump into endings with a shitty fanfic about Pirates cloning another Space Pirate commander.

ONCE AGAIN, THEY REBUILT MOTHER BRAIN. NO OFFICIAL INFO ABOUT PIRATES HAVING CLONING TECH THEY SIMPLY STOLE FROM THE GF
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>>382939827
THERE IS NO GODDAMN TRIBE
IT'S A GODDAMN GAME.
They guy who fucking CREATED AM2R is "Anti-AM2R"!
Because it's nothing! It's a non-entity! It's a fan-game created as a passion project by one guy, not meant to circumvent, replace, or be any kind of substitute for the regular series. Retarded fanboys who were butthurt over Federation Force turned it into that.

And, outside of general pitch and concept, Samus Returns looks and plays NOTHING like AM2R. There's plenty of room for both.
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>>382940412
>There's plenty of room for both.

I agree but Nintendo doesn't
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>>382939639
Can you read?
WHAT THE ANON WANTED was the same shit that was already in AM2R.
I never said what was actually in SR.
Idiot.
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>>382940483
Nintendo has a right to protect their IP. Always have.

Also, the above point is entirely moot, because AM2R is readily available to download and enjoy, so why the fuck do you care what Nintendo thinks?
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