>Final Boss appears
>It's God
What games let's me kill God? Because nothing is truly omnipotent.
>>382881667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlV1Qq7SylM
>>382881667
The vast majority of JRPGs. Off the top of my head, several Fire Emblem titles (1, 2, 3, 4, arguably 6, 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15) end against a dragon who is treated like a god by the world at large. Radiant Dawn even ends with an actual god being killed.
>>382881667
Persona 5 hasthe god of the old testamenthas a final boss.
>>382881667
xenogears.
play xenogears.
you not only kill god you also get to understand fucking everything about gods creation.
God of War
Asuras Wrath
B A Y O
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Morrowind
>>382881667
Soul Nom and the World Eaters
SMT II
Shadow Hearts
FFX
Breath of Fire II
>>382881667
Oblivion and shivering isles
>>382884929
>Oblivion
No. You get cucked out of the kill.
>>382881667
Is this really what happened to Warframe? I stopped playing just after the cinematic quest with the Twin Queens.
dragon dogma
>>382884475
>Demiurge
>Old testament god
You're beyond stupid.
>>382885136
Maybe not canon, but it makes the plot of the OT have much more fucking sense.
just play xenogears
>>382885068
Dont know if serious or cleverly disguised satire.
Shin Megami Tensei games (and Persona)
>>382885368
huh
>>382881667
There is only one god
>>382888007
The image in the OP isnt Warframe, it's xenoblade
>>382881667
every persona game
Pretty sure this was the earliest instance of it
Post God's themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZWW5Jy_x0c
>>382890004
I'd be shocked if it is. Western CRPGs got a pretty significant headstart. Not that I know for sure, just assuming.
>>382885136
Yes, the demiurge is the god of the bible.
>>382881667
You could always win the White House.
/v/, you did a great deed and granting me a new monado. I will happily take you as my new disciple.
>>382881667
Kid Icarus Uprising is really good at God drama and God killing
>>382890592
Demiurge/Yaldabaoth is a creation of Gnosticsm.
That said, SMT treats different peoples views of the same meta character as connected and in universe Yaldabaoth is an aspect of YHVH (Not to mention functionally in the universe YHVH is more like demiurge than a true god anyway)
>>382890537
I don't think killing God has ever explicitly been a thing in western RPGs. Wizardry and Ultima certainly never did this, and there aren't many other early RPGs to pick from.
>>382881667
But You don't fight Alvis.
The point of Zanza is that the power he wields isn't his own so he actually ISN'T god, but he is "the artisan". He's the demiurge as described in Gnosticism while Alvis is the Monad or "The One".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge#Gnosticism
It's a repeat of the plot of Gears where the super bio-weapon Deus gets all its power from the Zohar.
They even reused the bit about humanity being a resource that makes up a part of his greater body and reused the characterization that due to his longevity he can wait for literally 10000 years to see a plan to fruition.
>>382884475
It's not even god, just the collective unconscious projecting.
>>382890389
https://youtu.be/ZuXI7qcNsHQ
>>382891314
Humanity isn't fuel though. They are bacteria/organisms born out of it, the monado and the golem doesn't use them for anything in particular and in fact wants to get rid of them fairly straightforwardly.
>>382891428
In Xenoblade, all lifeforms from the Bionis multiply specifically because they release Ether when they die, which literally fuels the golem.
So yes humanity is fuel for the Bionis.
>>382891314
>artisan
Wait a sec. In the Xenoblade 2 they mention an Architect too
>>382891068
You should read source materials, not only third-hand references on Gnostic texts.
YHWH as the God of OT was actually considered a Lesser God by certain sects such as Marcionites and Sethians; and some even ascertained that Jesus preached of the Highest God as opposed to this Demiurgic figure.
>>382890004
It is, all the other bosses of the time were generic demons or deities at best, SaGa actually put God with the capital G, as in the creator and ruler of everything in that world, and you can instakill him by cleaving him in half with a fucking chainsaw or throw a literal nuke at it.
Good times.
>>382884524
Deus is not a god, it's just a weapon with serious firepower that it's named after a word meaning god. The real god is pretty chill and iirc even thanked you for freeing him.
Shin Megami Tensei often has you killing gods and true God.