>japanese game >christian themes and imagery every fucking

>japanese game
>nazi themes and imagery
every fucking time
why do they do this? to piss off jews? i don't get it

>>382862257
It looks cool and exotic to them.

>American media
>References to ninja and ancient martial arts of the east

why dont they just fuck off

>>382862257
Because it looks cool.

>>382862257
>to piss off atheists?
wouldn't bible thumpers be the offended ones?

Because it's exotic, but recognizable.

>>382862650
>he thinks the average christian is some crazy lunatic american

>>382862257
Because whether or not you actually agree with the religion, Christianity has some kickass imagery.

>>382862650
They do make a lot of sexy christian stuff

>>382862257
Because religion is conceptually interesting and versatile as a plot point. Christianity is pretty simple and easy to get the basic gist of, and people don't flip out a whole lot if you use it.
>to piss off atheists
half these games have the church as evil or at least morally gray though lmao
pretty much the only series i can think of that (usually) doesn't and isn't just doing it for sexy nuns is dragon quest

>>382862650

That was the 80s and 90s. Nowadays, no one barely gives a shit. It's all about national politics now.

>>382862732
can you read? I specifically said bible thumpers, not average christians, fuckwit

muh cultural appropriation

>>382862732
>religious
>not a crazy lunatic
nani?

>>382862257
christianity is fucking weird. stop pretending you don't realize that.

>>382862257

Japan love european fantasy setting

>>382862842
>>382862894
point is not everyone is american

>>382862842

Yeah and when was the last time they threw a fit? That's like saying putting Klan members in Mafia 3 where you gun them down would make the KKK buttmad. But guess what, they didn't. They're such a small minority that they're barely even heard.

>>382862257
Because they know what's best for you

>>382863008
No but it did make /v/ foam at the mouth for months.

>>382863008
It made /v/ buttmad though

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>Korean game
>Elevator music starts playing
What did he mean by this?

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Christian-esque religions are generally portrayed as evil, corrupt and worshipping a false god. Buddhism or shinto may have corrupt monks but the religious order as a whole is never corrupt and buddhist deities and kami are always good.

>>382863234
>Christian-esque religions are generally portrayed as evil
you've never played a dragon quest game
it's the most popular rpg in japan

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>>382862257
Abrahamic imagery looks cool

>>382863234
JRPG plot in a nutshell:
Guy 1: I'm a god! :D
Guy 2: No
Guy 1: REEEEE *transforms*

>>382863234
>Christian-esque religions are generally portrayed as evil

Which games?
I don't play a lot of jap games but isn't there usually a cathedral in every generic 2d rpg ever
The Church in bloodborne is shades of greys (like everything else), not pure evil
Everything is fucked up in DaS3 so you could argue worshipping the Deep isn't too bad (fuck aldricht though). The church in lothric seems fine. There's a church dedicated to Yorshka and she doesn't seem the evil kind.

>>382863234
You don't watch a lot of Japanese Horror then. JP Horror stories are filled to the brim with evil spirits, death cults, villages built on top of hell, and monks going insane and/or evil.

I think one of the reasons Christianity is so popular in Japanese media is one simple thing: Original Sin. Japanese mythology doesn't use the same term, but there is a pervasive theme of corruption and profanity in mankind. Japanese people don't really get Jesus--that's a bit too weird for them--but they do understand things like sin and punishment, and most Japanese morality tales tend to say something like, "Everyone has the capacity for terrible evil inside of them--if you think you're special, you're not--you're incorruptible, you're already lost".

OP is a faggot

>>382863623
Oops typo. Last part should be: "If you think you're incorruptible, you're already lost".

>>382863623
Isn't Jesus basically "If you die I wait until the world ends then give you a rez in my sweet palace, but only if you pray to me. No pray = I rez you then throw you in hell"
Basically, the idea of an ultimate punishment or ultimate reward, anthromorphised.

>>382863714
>If you think you're incorruptible, you're already lost
I really want to know how it would translate in Latin

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>>382863234
>and buddhist deities and kami are always good.

>>382862257

Because christian/abrahamic imagery is actually pretty cool, the better the more primitive you get. Japan's isn't as impressive, not even its weirdest parts.

Egyptian>abrahamic>mesoamerican>zoroastrian>roman>greek>chinese>norse>gallic/celtic>japanese

>>382863623
>>382863717
That said I don't really get the concept of an afterlife anyway.
Seems dumb to me.
Consciousness, like any tool, gets outdated and worn over time and needs to be replaced. In this case, by the minds of the next generation.
Why would you want to keep it around forever?

You'd think instead of promising personal pain and pleasure, religions would promise something like
"Your family will have good fortune for many generations" or "Your family will be punished for many generations"
Since while your consciousness may die, your family still inherits your genes, your ideas, the physical objects you've built. They're basically the part of you that survives past your body's death.
Why doesn't eternal reward/punishment target a reanimated consciousness (which is a dumb idea) rather than a family?

>>382864152

Damn I forgot indian, right after greek.

>>382863103
>>382863112
/v/ gets mad at everything. You could make a video of a cute puppy being picked up by its owner and it would piss someone off

>>382864345
FUCK YOU THAT'S ADMIN ABUSE
wait I mean
FUCK YOU THAT'S ANIMAL ABUSE

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>>382864152
Youkai don't have anything over Angels?

>>382864464

Youkai are pretty boring. See Nioh. Slav folklore is more interesting.

>>382863717
Kinda I guess. The difference is that Christianity believes that before Jesus, everyone was born with Original Sin and virtually all humans were destined for hell automatically--after Jesus, Original Sin was erased and mankind was free to seek salvation again.

That's the part that doesn't quite gel with Japanese mythology. They don't understand how humanity can have Original Sin one day, then lose it the next. We're either perfect beings, or we have some kernel of sin inside of us which can never be destroyed--since we're not perfect, we will never truly be free of our sins.

There's also interesting theological debate on how, exactly, Christ managed to overcome Original Sin. Conventional thought claims his suffering on the cross was enough punishment for pay for all of mankind, but that rubs some people the wrong way--myself included. Crucifixion was a pretty common form of execution, it seems strange that even if Jesus was God/Son of God that all sins could be redeemed via that single punishment. Some traditions--particularly in the Orthodox chuches--believe that Jesus spend the 3 days before his resurrection in Hell, either undergoing even more brutal torture at the hands of the Devil, or outwitting him and releasing the souls of all mankind from Hell.

My personal favorite interpretation actually comes from Jorge Borges: Jesus may have been the son of God, but the person who actually redeemed mankind's sin was Judas--after all, Jesus would never have been crucified if Judas had never betrayed him. Both men had a role to play in the salvation of mankind, but while Jesus was able to ascend to Heaven, Judas was doomed to wallow in the deepest, darkest corner of Hell for eternity. Jesus suffered on the cross for mankind's sin, but Judas suffers in Hell so that Jesus could suffer on the cross. By transitive property, Judas is the one who has actually inherited the sin of mankind, and his eternal torment is what allows each of us to break free.

>>382862257
it's exotic
they have no idea what any of the imagery means

>>382864692

>slav folklore

Clickety clack, get on my sack.

>>382864754
Because Original Sin was granted by god and therefore Original Sin can be refunded by god.

>>382864959
>>382864754
It's more a forgiveness thing than anything really. First God was really mad because humans gave free will and Eve ate the apple of Git Gud so he cursed Adam's entire family with sin.
Then he chilled out a bit and said he'd take the sin back if you prayed to him.

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>japanese game
>christian themes and imagery
>It's all poorly (if at all) researched, imagery and name-dropping is there to look/sound cool

>>382862257
hate boner for the westerners (dutch)

>>382864176
If you go to an afterlife of any kind, where you may exist forever, why the fuck would you care about the minds of the "next generation"? That is only relevant here.

>>382864754
>>382865257
>>382864959
I suppose it just sidesteps the issue really.
God plants the seed of Sin in you
God removes seed of Sin from you
... wonder if he's farming Sin for some reason

>>382865453
Because you ALREADY exist forever, through the things you build, the ideas you spread, and the genes your family carries,
and your family then goes on to use those buildings / ideas / genes to create more buildings / ideas / genes
What doesn't exist forever is consciousness
and consciousness is a load of shit
It's boring and tiring, having to constantly experience sensations. And people want to do that FOREVER? Fuck that.
Consciousness is a tool and it's a tool that gets more frustrating to use over time.

>>382863008
He didn't say they threw a fit, he said they would be more likely to throw a fit than atheists. Please get your glasses checked.

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>>382864915
you don't have the balls to post the rest

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>No Muslim imagery theme in any game
Good, because the developers might be beheaded and don't shitty SJWs ifnluences even though SMT games have many references to it since they are from the same family of abrahamic religions

>>382862257
Because it's exotic to them.
Same reason hipsters around here jerk off to Buddhism and eastern shit.

>>382865674
>Because you ALREADY exist forever, through the things you build

Stopped reading right there, that's pretty gay.

But it's true that living literally forever would eventually stop being fun, and even further down the road it would lose all of its purpose.

>>382862616
For a very brief moment I did not realize the fedora was shopped

>>382863623
>Japanese people don't really get Jesus--that's a bit too weird for them
The portuguese brought christianity to Japan some 500 years ago, it's nothing new to them. As far as their use in anime/manga/vidya, they just like the aesthetics. Just look at Dragon Quest and Fate/Stay Night, they use christian looks in more ways than one.

>>382864754
He spent the three days in the abyss most likely, not hell per say but the place where the angels that rebelled and forsake their first estate, aka crossed over into the material realm, are being held.

In some ways, it was like a declaration that their plan to prevent his coming failed.

>fuck a nun
>had disgusting hairy pussy

I'll stick to 2d, thanks

They do it because it's cool and exotic. Christianity is a minority over there compared to the polytheistic Shintoism that the majority practice.

>>382864915
Post the rest if you think your so great and not a faggot

>>382862257
They think it looks cool

I live in Japan and Christian imagery is basically completely removed from Christianity here. It's pretty normal to see people wearing crucifix necklaces and almost all of them are just doing it for fashion.

Then there is of course wedding chapels in Japan which specifically won't hire Christians to perform the ceremony because they don't want them to preach.

It's no different from Westerners using shit like the yin yang or the lotus without any understanding of what it means.

>>382865354
they hated the catholic portuguese. They allowed the dutch because they didn't try to convert anyone, they just wanted money

>>382863623

You're really reaching there. One of the big reasons Christianity is barely a thing in Japan is because of original sin. Japanese people don't enjoy feeling guilt or shame, it's extremely embarrassing for them. Telling them that everyone is guilty by default is anathema to the Japanese mentality.

It's popular because it looks cool.

>>382868202

Same thing with Asians who think Nazis look cool, like in India where they have Hitler Cafes,

KAMI-SAMA onegai

Maybe because anything that was associated with Christianity. Like the crusaders, the original sin, angels and demons, and pretty much the book of enoch is great?
I mean if you put aside Christ's tale and look at the other tales like how the fallen angels created the Nephilim or how pretty much every saint can call out the sword of God to scare off invaders is pretty cool
also the imagery

>>382865338
>Jesus is an Eldritch monstrosity hanging off of an overdesigned cross
>angels are weird guys in coats
I love this shit desu

>>382862367
The Jews fear the samurai

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Japs have an inherently high levels of chunni and high levels of acceptance in the right area.

>>382864176
>You'd think instead of promising personal pain and pleasure, religions would promise something like
>"Your family will have good fortune for many generations" or "Your family will be punished for many generations"

It's simple

A good afterlife can not be disproven or refuted.

If a religion promises real material rewards for long-term piety, people will notice if those rewards don't come as promised, and lose faith.

but for an immaterial reward it's impossible to find evidence for or against it. You can't know whether or not a pious man is rewarded in the afterlife, because you would have to die first to find out, and dead people can't refute anything.

So no risks of people discovering broken promises.

>>382865967
Do you think an Immortal would slowly be dulled to their emotions/become more cynical and detached over time?

>>382862257

Nuns and sisters and hijabs make my dick hard keeping their bodies hidden but are still sticking out their frames

>>382862970
rekt

>>382871342

Only the modern generations. WW1 Japan was very grounded and pragmatic considering they were still modeling themselves after Prussia. It was only after the US fed them their own asses that they're minds went haywire.

>>382864464
>posting Nu Ramiel

>>382865674
Friendly reminder that a heat death is inevitable, and it doesn't matter what your legacy on earth is because it's going to be wiped away by entropy.

>>382862257
>why do they do this? to piss off atheists? i don't get it

Because they know some people have a nun cosplay fetish. So they do it.

>>382873118
Rebuild Ramiel looks dope as fuck tho
Plus the drill actually looks like a part of the Angel

>>382873649
heat death isnt even real

>Japanese game
>gnostics themes

Why the hell do they do this? To piss off the demiurge?

>>382874018
YOU aren't even real.

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>an example of successful bait

>>382868508
>Christianity never took on in Japan because of dislike of guilt and shame
>on a society with a strong sense of honor until very recently in its history
>Not because it was foreign and Japanese leaders had a big fear of foreign powers and over time instilled a national identity contrary to the claims of Christianity
>also the only major Christian city got fucking nuked

>>382873727
>nun cosplay fetish
why do they do this? to piss off atheists? i don't get it

>>382874459

Nobody here wants to convert to your jew on a stick.

>>382874645
lolsure m8

>>382874645
jews hate white christians

>>382874716

Jews also hate white atheists

>>382874754
Jews want white people to be atheists. Jews hate white Christians.
Atheism = no kids

>>382874858

You can be atheist and have kids. I don't vouch for atheism though.

>>382868508
Funny how guilt-based their society is. You'd think it would fit them like a glove.

>>382874917
>You can be atheist and have kids
true but atheists are the ones getting outbred out of existence, not religious people

How to be a christian.

Step 1: Believe a religion that lies
Step 2: Defend it with platitudes and rewordings of scripture
Step 3: Preach it everywhere like an annoying cunt

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>>382865856
we have our own games actually
theres this new game called Wojdan in steam .

>>382875082
how to be an atheist: don't have any kids

>>382875150

I'm not atheist though

>>382875082
Step 4: Kill anyone that disagrees with your opinion

>>382875191
what are you then

>>382875273

>things that never happened.

>>382862257
>japanese game
>it's always nuns, never glorious zealots
every fucking time

>>382875293
Gnostic, God gave me gnosis, most gnostic gospels are merely myths not to be taken literally the truth is a very ugly mistress.

>>382862257
I take it you played a dragon quest game, I'm Christian or at least used to be and I'm triggered about the church in DQ because it's the representation of a catholic church, now that was corrupt and worshiping a fake goddess only makes it worse.

>>382875082
>believe a religion
That's your first mistake. Organized religion is prone to corruption. Your first and foremost Christian belief should be in the loving God, not some religious figurehead.
>defend it with platitudes
If you mean defend my brothers and sisters who have gone totally nuts and done absolutely shameful things, then I don't defend them; I in fact condemn them for tarnishing the name of Christians everywhere. If you mean "defend my faith," I see no reason to do so as it does not negatively affect who I am as a person or what I do.
>preach it everywhere like an annoying cunt
I don't. The best "preaching" you can do is living an honest life and being an example to follow. "Show; don't tell" comes to mind.

>>382876421

Do a miracle, your book says that in the name of jesus you will do miracles.
Go ahead and defend that, we are waiting.

>>382876549
According to your standards, being a non-psychopathic Christian is a miracle, so, therefore, I've already done it.

At any rate, "miracles" ceased to be shortly after the Pentecost anyway. People who claim to be able to perform them are cheap entertainers and charlatans.

>>382876742
You cannot do miracles because you are being deceived with a false religion so you go astray, if your religion promises that you will do miracles and you aren't doing any you can discard it straight away.

>>382876848
except my religion does not promise any ability to perform miracles and, even if they were possible in the way that you're thinking about them, they would just be attributed to a real-world phenomenon anyway, which is how it should be, since God specifically desires faith without sight.

The point is for there to be no empirical proof, because then the faith would just be recognition of fact and not real "belief."

>>382876965
>except my religion does not promise any ability to perform miracles and
Need I quote scripture?

>american game
>ninjas, shaolin monks, spoopy japanese schoolgirl ghosts, random japanese words

every fucking time
why do they do this? to piss off japanese? i don't get it

>>382877046
Do it. There is nothing in the Book that says so that has not expired due to further commandments or events.

>>382877046

Sure thing. Performing miracles after Christ's death was a power only bestowed to the Apostles. No commoner was able to do so.

>>382864754
Bible doesn't explicitly say he went straight to hell to be raped by demons for eternity. I think he died before the Jesus did so he could very well be included with the rest of souls in the void who got absolved by him.

>>382862257
Because you notice it. Or, in other words, you don't notice when Japanese games have eastern religious/philosophical ideas tacked on because you're less familiar with it or because it doesn't catch your attention.

>>382862257
They see it as something that represents westeners, so they usually hint christianity when a game takes place in the west or certain character is western.

>>382874950
Japanese society is shame based and western society is guilt based. Guilt is something you feel alone when you've done something wrong. Shame is something you feel in front of others when you've done something wrong.

>>382877265
>No commoner was able to do so.
Luke 9:49
“Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not follow with us.”

these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

To add to already mentioned exotic aspect, I think that christianity for japanese is an example of very strict structure, which is able to set things in motion if it needs to, with all branches cooperating. Shinto is much less centralised in comparsion. So, whenever they need bad guys organising a holy crusade or good guys backing heroes up, christian church is way to go.

>>382878202
That was literally before Christ's death and also Pentecost, nerd. Pay attention to what we've been saying.

>>382878939

Only out of your ass says in the bible that rule of pentecost.

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>>382866017
i didnt realize it was shopped until i read your comment

>>382879019
>moving the goalposts

Let me explain this very simply:
Miracles were needed before the complete word of God existed in order to reasonably prove to people in ancient times that God was actually legit. This is established with consistency throughout the Old Testament as a manner of convincing people (Moses comes to mind). Miracles after Christ's death, Pentecost, and especially the complete word of God being written in some form or fashion were not needed since modern Christians have everything they need in the Bible. Essentially, the "miracle" is that the Bible exists.

>>382878570
>bad guys organising a holy crusade
Fuck off, roach.

>>382868595
India owes Hitler for crushing britbongs and indirectly freeing them, so he might be a good guy for them.

>>382875096
>That art
that's ugly man. what is it even?

>>382879362
t. "cultural christian"

christcuckoldry is dying fast, kafir

From what I see, Christians in NA don't take their religion seriously. The ones who do take it seriously are being made fun of, so you don't see any christian censorship in America anymore

Better be Christianity than Judaism, Islam and Pagaynism.

>>382879349
>Let me pull lies out of my ass

>>382874240
rekt

>>382870648
>Enter the 19th century
>Jews make Samurai disappear forever with gatling guns
>GRORIOUS NIPPON BUSHIDO