Why the fuck did little hub worlds that do nothing but add more

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>>382846485
In many ways, Sonic Adventure was a product of its time. It had a hub world because, well, other big name platformers at the time like Banjo, Spyro and of course Mario 64 had one. It had a whole bunch of playable characters because the notion of having multiple characters to play as was a big selling point in 3D platformers at the time (see: DK64 and its five playable characters each with their own fucking set of collectibles, people sperging out over Luigi being in Mario 64, etc), and admittably it was kinda impressive at the time that SA had six of them, each with their own completely different gameplay style.

The reason the game even had a more realistic art style in comparison to the Genesis games was because they wanted to show off how powerful and high tech the Dreamcast was during that time. It's even why they went with Chaos as the main villain, as they wanted to showcase a character previous console hardware couldn't dream of rendering.

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>>382846485
>complaining about the first 3d sonic game

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>>382847120
>each with their own completely different gameplay style.
>Tails

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>>382846485
I liked them.

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>>382846485
The hubworlds are just another place for me to do cool tricks with sonic's physics. I don't mind it.

Its to establish atmosphere

>>382846485
The hubs acted as areas to organically weave in the story with cutscene triggers.

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>>382846485
>tfw can't talk about how broken and fun this game is because some youtuber did and now a bunch of children who never played parrot about how great it is

Because other 3d platformer games were doing it at the time.

Just it had no business being in a Sonic game, and the devs realized this since the sequel scrapped the idea.

>>382846485
>have emblems to find
>upgrades
>chao gardens
>hidden chao eggs
>shit like Metal Sonic and Mecha Sonic sitting in the hub
Seems like it appeals to enough people to be warranted.

>>382848070

Yet they did it again in Sonic '06 and Unleashed.

>>382847947
>a bunch of children parrot about how great it is
In what world? I'd like to visit that world

>>382846485
In really, really small doses, hub worlds are ok. They are a highly flavoured menu-screen without any chance of an exciting encounter. It's a waiting zone where you put up with a bunch of boring shit (fetch this, find that, talk to her) to get back to the excitement.

On the other hand, shit like Skyrim is like, 60% hub world, with minimal chance of encountering excitement. Remember when games didn't have huge dickless stretches of nothing threatening? It's just filler based game design, which is easy as fuck to do, and it still sells to autists and sick people looking for long-term relief from their games.

>>382846485
>asking why did they become a thing
>point out they waste your time

The point is to waste your time

And also to get used to 3D movement in a big space

>>382846485
For real, SA did that because they had left over shit from Sonic Jam. Turns out hubworlds just don't work in games where the gameplay is based on speed.

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>>382849832
They work if they need the game to seem like its longer

Sonic actually did it better than Mario now at putting the character in the real world.

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i hope sonic adventure 3 has hub worlds.

endgame when all you have left is chao, the fields are fun to run around in.
like its either that or replay the 2 levels you like for the 254th time.

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>>382850341
Adventure 3 already came out.

the only good hubs in sonic are sonic unleasheds hubs.

debate me, you can't

>>382847323
That's 3D blast

>>382850570
That's not adventure 3, it's a adventure reboot

>>382847440

Flying is strictly a unique ability to Tails.

>>382847323
>>382852224
That's Labyrinth.

>>382847120
This.
People act like this 18 years old game does so many wrong things, they were probably 3 years old when it came out and never experienced how awesome this game truly was. Yeah, it's flawed and has some bad glitches, Amy is boring and Big isn't much fun. But everything else was nothing short of stunning when it came out.

>>382853721
Yup. Its something where you had to be there to see how groundbreaking it was. SA1 and Unleashed, besides Sonic 2,3, and Rush, are the only games that felt like massive steps forward to me. SA1 and Unleashed are also my favorite 3D Sonic games. I don't really like any other 3D Sonic desu

>>382852458
But it's in continuity with them, and is in fact the culmination of 8 or so years of storytelling and characterization. So no it's no reboot, considering the series got a soft reboot right after. It is the third game using that structure which is why it's sometimes referred to as a technical Sonic Adventure 3. Just because Super Mario World didn't have Bros in the title didn't mean it wasn't in the same group with the last three platformers.

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>>382855438
It does not continue in with any previous Sonic games, the blue chaos emerald is in an infinite loop making it impossible to be obtained outside of this timeline.

It can just as well be a reboot even with a reboot coming out later to show what a failure this reboot is, similar to the Spiderman films.

>Just because Super Mario World didn't have Bros in the title didn't mean it wasn't in the same group with the last three platformers.
Except it did, it's super mario Bros 4. super mario world

You wouldn't consider DmC, Devil May Cry 5

>>382846485
>not enjoying speeding through the jungle around the mystic ruins as Sonic

>>382856159
>geometrical forces killed Nintendo
That Magikoopa fucking knew

>>382846485
It was literally a new concept back then

>>382846485
It added more depth to the new Sonic world. It's actually quite a shame they didn't have enough time to incorporate similar hubs into Adventure 2.