JESUS FUCKING CHRIST STOP PLAYING THIS BULLSHIT GET A JOB GET

Did OP get scammed?

TF2 is a lot of things, but I don't think P2W is one of them.

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What better multiplayer fpses?

The better ones can be pirated easily. There is not a better class based fps, yet.

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>>382841000
>tfw no money

>pay to win
underaged

>>382841168
Agree.

TF2 is one of the least P2W games ever.

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>>382841000
I agree OP, not with what you said, but with the idea of having a TF2 thread.

So anons, tell me:
Favorite class?
Favorite map?
Favorite weapon?
When did you start playing?
When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?

>>382841241
quake live.

>>382841241
>tfw no gf

>>382841420
Trap

>>382841391
Not class based.

>>382841000
No

Is not Pay to Win not yet... but But there are many fucking hackers

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>tfw CS:GO, TF2, Quake Live and Unreal Tournament are only decent 8/10 shooters at best
>they're still better than everything else on the market
Even when I wasted hundreds of hours online with this sort of games I never felt like they were something really, really good. Most of what makes the games interesting at all is facing other players, rarely the mechanics involved in the clash.
Why is one of the biggest genres of all time lacking what's widely considered a masterpiece like other genres have? Is it just because adrenaline and dopamine addiction are enough to carry the whole genre?

So even after all these years, I haven't figured out the charge rate for if I want to kill certain classes with Sniper. I usually overcharge and make it overkill and that sometimes kills me.

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>Decide to play MvM for the first time in a few months
>Get this at the end of my tour
Nice

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>tfw my 2 keys become tradable tomorrow
time to sell this shit for quick metal

>>382841552
That's the best part

>>382842167
>spending a dollar every tour to gamble not only money but your time playing a mediocre pve gamemode
I feel bad for mvm cucks

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>>382841364
>Favorite class?
To play with: Scout, for personality: Medic
>Favorite map?
koth_king
>Favorite weapon?
Tomislav
>When did you start playing?
F2P update
>When did you stop?
Gun mettle, but i'm back playing for 3 months now
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed
Yes, i scammed some guy once, but nothing much

>>382841000
>reeeeee stop playing things i dont like
OWfag detected

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Post dem TF2 stories

>>382841364
>Favorite class?
soldier
>Favorite map?
pl_upward
>Favorite weapon?
black box
>When did you start playing?
when it went f2p, first opportunity i had to give it a chance
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
never thought it went downhill, all the hats and dances and silly shit were a laugh but i got a job (lol) and had to play less and less. still play on halloween and whenever i'm bored and/or drunk
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
i got a salvaged crate than i sold for about 12 bucks

>>382841364
>Favorite class?
Scout and Soldier because fast, but I liked Pyro quite a lot before I stopped playing
>Favorite map?
anything, any mode
>Favorite weapon?
The Original and that shotgun that made scout run faster in its pre-nerf state
>When did you start playing?
shortly after release, got it with orange box
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
meat your match update, tf2 was my go to game for quick few rounds where I could chill or tryhard if I felt like it, Meat your Match update broke this aspect
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
gold paint, traded it for razorback
not even joking

>>382841364
>favorite class
Soldier in all of his aspects
>favorite map
Dustbowl only when I'm defending
>when did you first play
2015 no bully pls
>when did you stop
Engineers annoy the shit out of me but I'm still here to direct him em
>unbox
I unboxed a strange damage counter but I wasted on my sticky launcher

>>382843442
Can't hear you over my free 29 bucks

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>>382841364
>tries to hijack thread
>fails

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Stickies should only detonate when on attached to surfaces

the ramp-up nerf was justified

>>382842012
>only 8/10
What do you call a 10/10, faggot? If you say Doom I know you're a doombabby escaped from /vr/.

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>>382841364
>Favorite class?
Soldier
>Favorite map?
Frontier. It's janky but every section is amazing and allows for extremely fun play as virtually every class.
>Favorite weapon?
My Specialized Killstreak Original, but that's just a reskin. Otherwise, it's the Crusaders Crossbow, it's the weapon that I think added most to the game. It added spot healing, damage, and distance to the medic. And the fact that it's a projectile is awesome.
>When did you start playing?
At launch, on the 360, when I was around 12. Still fun.

>>382844926
Doom is like 8 or 9.

The real test to how lacking these games are is how much playing against bots sucks compared human players even if the AI was well designed.
When it's just you with the mechanics and the fun goes my point is proven how the games are mostly made by human interaction and competition over what you're competing about.

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>>382844926
his scale is already fucked
>decent 8/10
>80%
>decent
didn't realize this was gameinformer

>>382845324
reminder that doom is literally so laughably simple a computer can make levels for it and players find them as enjoyable as handcrafted maps, if they can even tell the difference

>>382841364
>class
Pyro, ill play him if i ever play highlander but in pubs i mostly play soldier bcuz its more fun to play vs. multiple heavy/medics or engies
>map
gold rush
>weapon
flare gun or pre-nerf degreaser

I never thought it went downhill, it was and still is one of my fav games but when I started playing i mostly jumped from new fps to new fps. For the past few years tho I've been sticking to a few mp games for long periods of time (i enjoy "esports" ones i guess even tho i think the whole "esports" idea is cancer) and tf2 is one of them. i don't like what they did with all the matchmaking stuff tho

>>382844336
>upward
good taste

>>382844669
>free

How many tours have you done. Fess up.

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>>382841364
>Favorite Class
I'm not a mainfag but if I had to pick one it'd be Demoman.
>Favorite Map
Dustbowl
>Favorite Weapon
Grenade Launcher
>When did you start playing
2011
>When did you stop playing
Meet Your Match was the first update to make me stop playing. I came back eventually since I missed it, Valve is retarded but they've barely touched the core game so it still plays as good as I like.
>Expensive Items
Back when I still gave a shit about cosmetics I traded my way up to a Purple Energy Fro. Was pretty neat but I don't care about e-peen shit like hats or stranges anymore. Just play the game because it's still fun

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>>382841168
You can buy everything that the game has, but the game doesn't have anything that can just get you instant wins. The most you can get is the chance of getting a Strange or Unusual. And if you're dropping that much money into the game, then you might as well drop a couple of grand to buy a hat on tfmarket.

>>382845717
>mechanics so good even generated levels are fun
yeah what a shitty game

>caring this much about a game
Anon, please, stop being a bad boy. Go wash the dishes and I might give you an extra chicken tendie with dinner.

>>382841836

All the hackers are awful at the game, and they all toggle their hacks when they are being completely destroyed.

can a skilled pyro beat any soldier?

>>382841000
>Pay to Win
Stock is best for all classes and anyone who says otherwise cant aim the shotgun

I get a sexual thrill off of capping hightower while everyone on both teams beg me to stop

>>382844669

You don't start counting with the last ticket anon, I bet you've spent more than 30 bucks on tickets and other golden weapons.

Also, they look like shit.

>>382841000
At its core, its still the same game from all those years ago. You can still pick it up and enjoy just the same. Other than new weapons and a new community, the gameplay is the same.

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>>382841364
>Favorite class?
Demo man 4 gameplay. Soldier for personality
>Favorite map?
Badwater/thunder mountain
>Favorite weapon?
Direct shit
>When did you start playing?
2007 orange box launch, PS3 for 6 months, then PC
>When did you stop?
Meet Your Match killed it 100% to me
When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
End of the line made me slow up a lot, showed how little the devs cared
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
Nada.

>>382846370
Yes

WOW, I BOUGHT LMAOBOX AND SUDDENLY I'M REALLY GOOD AT THIS GAME AND ENJOY IT NOW!

>>382842761
>>382841552
>He doesn't want a cute and boyish looking bf
wow

>>382846370
Fuck no, pyro is garbage.

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>playing koth_nucleus
>a group of 3 spinbot sniper hackers on the other team
>they have medics

>go dead ringer spy and trigger the door to stay permanently open for two rounds by standing slightly to the side

>they never target me again

>>382846848
Gay

>playing scout
>on harvest
>faggot engie tries to set up
>btfo him
>goes on a hissy fit about how he's supposed to "counter" scout and goes on a rant about "area denile" bullshit

lol why do these nerds act like TF2 is pokemon or something.

>>382847038
duh

>>382847534
Mentally ill

>>382847663
>he's never fingered his bum

>>382847778
People only pretend to be gay because they're insecure about their masculinity.

Do you have to buy a ticket for every game of mann up mvm?

That's how I think it goes but from what I've gathered you only need one ticket to "unlock" a tour, and then ever subsequent mission in that tour is free, am I wrong? Because if not I have a lot of uncompleted tours

>>382841364
Scout and Soldier
cp_badlands
I love the scattergun. For unlocks, Direct hit.
Started playing when I got it with the Orange box, probably around 2008.
I still enjoy the core gameplay, but increasingly poor performance (even with mainframes) and MYM killing jump in jump out valve pubs while offering shitty comp matchmaking and ranking system makes me not want to play.
I unboxed a vivid plasma brown bomber, and due to my naivety I got sharked for probably less than half of its value at the time (I think I remember having traded it for ~90 keys in mixed, when it could've easily fetched 280+ keys.) Through a series of poor decisions (in addition to giving a close friend a bud, which valued around ~18 keys? at the time,) I ended up with nothing in less than a year.

>>382841364
>Favorite class?
SOLDIER
I also play a pretty good Medic.
>Favorite map?
Gorge.
>Favorite weapon?
Pre-nerf Black Box. Pretty decent for roaming, and the shit I've pulled off with it in pubs is fucking astounding.
>When did you start playing?
Free to Play update.
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
Maybe 2-3 years ago at this point, I forget when exactly I stopped playing. I can sure tell you that Meet Your Match killed what interest I had left in the game though, that update was a fucking mistake on all accounts.
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
Nothing Unusual tier, but a few nice Stranges. I think I have some really old Crates on my account as well, so maybe they're worth something.

>>382841364
I've played it extremely causally because it's the only fps I don't care about doing well in, and the only people I know who play it take it seriously. Although I've started recently playing a bit more but still casual.

Heavy is pretty fun, literally just M2 then M1 soon as someone appears. Engineer seems fun too but I can't get into placement of shit atm. Scout seems cool but too squishy for my liking sadly.

>>382841364
>Favorite class?
Soldier
>Favorite map?
Process
>Favorite weapon?
Default RL.
>When did you start playing?
2010, stopped early playing this year

>>382844784
>Stickies should only detonate when on attached to surfaces
No.
>the ramp-up nerf was justified
Yes.

Demo is an almost perfectly balanced class now. His stickies don't need a large offensive nerf.

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problems with tf2 classes:
>Scout
has some broken as fuck unlocks
>Soldier
so versatile you never have a reason to not pick him, since there's no risk of running into a situation you can't deal with.
>Pyro
Too good against bad players when used by a bad player, too bad against good players when used by a good player, buggy, basically a worse version of every class when it comes to doing useful things
>Demo
stickies are slightly too good on defense compared to their offensive capabilities, slowing down the game.
>Heavy
Uninteresting to play as and against (a slow, low-counterplay, hitscan high DPS damage sponge). low skill floor and low skill ceiling; too good on defense, too weak on offense.
>Engie
Low skill floor and low skill ceiling; too good on defense, too weak on offense.
>Medic
Absolutely mandatory to win, which means you're forced to play him, even if you don't enjoy it, to have a chance. Because he is such a powerful healer, and healing stops people from dying, this slows down the game. Suffers from "One Viable Loadout" syndrome: Crossbow, Stock, Ubersaw are so strong that there are no other choices.
>Sniper
Low-counterplay design, there's very little you can do to deal with a Sniper picking you off from long range. Balanced due to his skill requirement, but inherently unfair.
>Spy
Worse version of Sniper when getting picks for most intents and purposes, since he has to get into close range to do what Sniper can do from long range.

>>382850923
>Suffers from "One Viable Loadout" syndrome: Crossbow, Stock, Ubersaw are so strong that there are no other choices.
>what is Kritzkreig

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Dead Ringer

>Ammo kits and dispensers no longer refill the Spy's cloak meter

Panic Attack

>50% faster switch speed
>50% more pellets
>30% less damage
>Fires a wide, fixed shot pattern (regardless of server settings)
>Shot pattern grows with successive shots (e.g. while holding down the attack button), but resets after you stop firing or reload

Your Eternal Reward

>Removed: "Cannot disguise" penalty
>Added: Non-kill disguises require (and consume) a full cloak meter
>Backstab-based disguises are still free
>Increased cloak drain rate by 50%

Sandman

>Long-range ball impacts no longer remove the victim's ability to fire their weapon (but the victim is still slowed)
>We've updated achievements that were looking for disarmed players
>Max range balls now do 50% increased damage (from a base of 15)
>The flight time required to trigger the "max" effect has been reduced by 20%
>Ball regeneration time reduced to 10 seconds (from 15)

Bonk! Atomic Punch

>Apply a slow effect to the player after phasing wears off, based on the amount of damage they absorbed
>From -25% at low damage, to -65% at 200+ damage
>Lasts 5 seconds

Flying Guillotine

>Removed: Crit vs stunned players
>Removed: Mini-crits at long range
>Added: Long range hits reduce recharge (by 1.5 seconds)
>Distance considered "long range" reduced by half of the previous value when determining mini-crits

etc.. etc..

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=30147

>>382851240
Kritzkrieg is a weapon that gets used by 18% of players in pubs http://tf2stats.net/weapons/?sort=equipped and gets used maybe 10% of the time in competitive play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WseWk_rFPw4

It's a good weapon design, and I'm in no hurry to change it, but it's not the "perfect sidegrade to stock" some people tout it as.

It would benefit nicely from a damage bonus vs. buildings during Uber so it isn't so useless pushing into Sentry nests.

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just duo scout with a retarded friend frag fucking degenerate little kids and acquire elo

maybe then you'll stop fucking screeching like a retarded baby

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>>382841000
shut up poor man

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>>382841364
>Favorite class?
i mostly use soldier and scout, but in personality wise, i´d say Spy
>Favorite map?
dustbowl or turbine
>Favorite weapon?
hard choice, maybe the boston basher
>When did you start playing?
even though i got into tf2 on 2013 i only strated playing in two months ago.

>>382851678
Judging by your reaction image you don't get what's going on.
Valve is looking to do with TF2 what they did with CS:GO and Dota, which worked well for those games: balance the game around the most skilled players.

Most of those changes are made with competitive play in mind, with exceptions.

>>382851697
>It's a good weapon design, and I'm in no hurry to change it, but it's not the "perfect sidegrade to stock" some people tout it as.
Perhaps I should clarify that I don't think it's a perfect sidegrade either, but it's certainly viable enough to run. I wouldn't mind the extra building damage though, that's for sure.

>>382841364
>Favorite class?
scout
>Favorite map?
process
>Favorite weapon?
pistol
>When did you start playing?
2011
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
why would i stop fucking pummelling retards
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
bubbling tyrannus years ago, bought terraria with it lol

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>>382851678

>No demo or pyro changes

Still reeling from the temper tantrums from last time I guess.

>>382851978
Those were the preview changes on the blog. Full list still unknown.

>>382851978
These are just SOME of the changes. Pyro changes are 100% happening since this is his update.

>>382851871
*started

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>>382841364
>Favorite class?
Engineer or Demo I guess, Soldier is boring easy mode.
>Favorite map?
Gravelpit and Steel
>Favorite weapon?
Huntsman
>When did you start playing?
2011
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
Most matches feel like 'lightning fast one-sided rolls' or '20-min long stalemates', but I still manage to squeeze out some enjoyment amidst all the bullshit. I've been playing alot less since MYM though.
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
Unboxed a Medic unusual and sold it off for 40 something keys.

>>382841364
>Favorite class?
Spy
>Favorite map?
tc_hydro
>Favorite weapon?
Ambassador
>When did you start playing?
2009
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
Mannconomy but I foolishly enjoyed it when it was new.
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
I had bill's hat, vintage luger, earbuds and a couple SHIT unusuals. Always wanted the max head but never obtained one. Right now, I have a lot of old items that I never sold that are worth a lot apparently. I have a genuine Koto box with all 25 uses, series #9 crates, lvl 100 hallmark and lvl 100 fedora both painted white, VooDoo Juju, Earbuds, Giftapult, and Summer Starter Kit. Not all that shit is valuable, but it's rare which is nice I guess.

>>382850923
Scout is fairly balanced I'd say, especially with upcoming balance changes.
Soldier being a good all-around class is not a bad thing.
Pyro has flawed design that isn't easily solved. Either he's too strong or too weak. When he's strong in high level play, he's the terror of pub games. When he's weak in high level play, he plays like shit in low level games.
Demo is in a good spot. Still fun and strong whilr having.clear pros and cons. Also has the most fun subclass, demoknight.
I agree entirely with your points regarding heavy.
Same with engie.
Medic being madatory is not a bad thing. The game is much more interesting with the uber/heals dynamic. Medic's alternative mediguns aren't bad. I do concedeth at he needs improved balancing on his unlocks, which we'll hopefully see more of with coming updates.
Dedicated Snipers in FPS are bad design in general. They embody the issue of high level vs low level balancing.
I agree with your thoughts on spy. Any class that can instakill any other class is going to be rough to balance.
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with each class not being equally useful/important in a game like TF2. Flex is good.

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>>382841364
>Favorite class?
for gameplay, soldier. otherwise, heavy
>Favorite map?
cactus canyon
>Favorite weapon?
tomislav
>When did you start playing
a week before the uber update
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
meet your match, but i've never really stopped playing
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
traded for a few unusuals and a lot of killstreaks, pic related

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>>382844249
>playing spy on 2fort
>One cap left before win
>enemy team has a five man engie nest in the intel room
>infiltrate base and try to do the sapped teleporter telefrag trick.
>plan to get a cheap telefrag, sap buildings, then make a mad dash out of the base with the intel.
>Sapper is removed and I teleport.
>mfw all fucking 5 engies get telefragged instantly.
>Sap their shit and take intel
>Win game
Moral of the story: Don't build next to each other.

>>382851978
Demo doesn't really need any changes at all, except for buffs/reworks to a few of his unlocks (Caber, Claidheamh Mor, Sticky Jumper). It's not that they're "reeling", it's that they've succeeded in balancing Demo alongside Soldier, Scout, and Sniper.

Demo is one of the most balanced classes in TF2 right now.
>>382852742
>Soldier being a good all-around class is not a bad thing.
No, but there being no risk in picking Soldier is a bad thing. Every other class has a risk of getting softcountered and Soldier doesn't.
>Pyro has flawed design that isn't easily solved. When he's strong in high level play, he's the terror of pub games. When he's weak in high level play, he plays like shit in low level games.
This is why his skill requirement needs to be increased.
>Medic being madatory is not a bad thing. The game is much more interesting with the uber/heals dynamic
The game is much more interesting with 9 equally balanced classes, allowing the player to choose what they enjoy rather than being shoehorned into a role. I agree uber/heals is an interesting dynamic, but at this point, Medic is SO good that having 1 when the enemy has none is a guaranteed loss. He doesn't need to be this good.
>I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with each class not being equally useful/important in a game like TF2. Flex is good
The problem is that there IS no flex. Medic is a permanent fixture of any team, and Spy and Pyro are trash 99% of the time. That isn't good game design.

Obviously it's not possible for TF2 to be perfectly balanced, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try at all.

The purpose of game balance is to ensure that players can choose the strategy they enjoy the most without being at a disadvantage. That's what's inherently wrong with each class not being equally useful.

You guys play custom gamemodes?

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>>382855749
I play Fortwars when I can find a game. Great fun.

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>>382841364
>Fav class
Sniper, Gunslinger Engi, and Demoknight for fun. Solider, Medic, and RR Engi for when I'm playing competitively.
>Fav map
Outside of 2fort, probably Dustbowl, specifically the Round 3 variation.
>Fav weapon
Depends on the class, but I've recently renamed and redescriptioned my Sydney Sleeper. It's very entertaining to Jarate someone from halfway across the map then see them get critkilled, way more than just getting a headshot. If you ever see a Sniper with a SS called Urinary Tract Infection, that's probably me.
>When did you start playing
I played it for the first time back in '09, but I wasn't able to play it again until '15.
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
Haven't yet. I probably won't anytime soon since I play with friends when I do.
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
The most expensive item I have is one of the taunts, I think it's the Engi one. And that's half a refined short of a key last I checked. But I don't plan on trading that in.

IP: 51.15.13.7:27015
Password: vidya

>>382856859
>51.15.13.7:27015
>132 ping

Not in NA huh?


Heres a server for NA anons full of custom maps

66.55.149.103:27970

>>382841364
>class
Sniper, spy, and scout.
>map
mountain lab
>weapon
Sydney sleeper and the neon annihilator.
I started at around 2011
Never stopped, but I think matchmaking and removing community servers from quick play changed the game for the worst.
My most expensive item I ever had was an unusual spy cosmetic, sold it to somebody for like 25 dollars. The most expensive item I currently have is a botkiller rocket launcher I got as a gift.

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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>382841364
Favorite class?
Scout, though I like all the 6s classes
Favorite map?
Process
Favorite weapon?
Scattergun
When did you start playing?
F2p
When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
Never stopped, took a couple hiatuses tho
Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
Don't care for consmetics or items at all (I run everything stock), so no

>>382857218
>matchmaking and removing community servers from quick play changed the game for the worst
What was valve even thinking?

>>382857269
I still don't understand either. Now it's a Force-A-Nature Lite. Same thing goes for Claidheamh Mor.

It's like they don't even look at the weapons they already have when they decide to make a new one or tweak an old one.

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>>382841364
>Heavy
>ctf_well
>force a nature, love flinging people
>2007
>Still play often, gameplay hasn't gone downhill but matchmaking casual servers can fuck off
>Have an unusual sultans ceremonial and various pro killstreak weapons

>>382857454
>>382857269
What did they do to it?

I loved that gun when I used to play, the push was new to me though

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>>382844249
>2fort
>spy
>disguise as enemy spy
>follow enemy heavy into sewers
>he thinks i'm a spy, so he shoots me
>i don't die in time and he thinks i'm one of him
>continue following as he is heading to intel
>he thinks i'll sap my engineers nest
>instead I backstab him

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>>382857194
>>382856859
FUCK YEAH EUROPARTYVAN

>>382841364
Class: Engineer
Map: cp_Gorge
Weapon: Eyelander
June 28th, 2012, exactly. I know this because the first day I launched it I remember having missed out on the vintage pyro goggles by a day.
_____________________________________________________No :(_____

>>382857194
I'm halfway around the world and it connects nicely
The server's very fast made with 5 dedotaded wam

>>382858074
>51.15.13.7:27015
Fuck it, ill join but im mic spamming.

>>382841364
I uncrated a Strange Awper hand, and sold it for twenny bux
That was pretty rad.

>>382855749
I love mvm randomizer for some reason

>>382841364

>Favorite class
Medic, Soldier, and Pybro.

>Favorite map
Steel or Dustbowl

>Favorite weapon
Detonator and surprising people not expecting a pyro in certain places.

>When did you start playing
Some time in 2009 I think.

>When did you stop / Did it go downhill
Never has and probably won't for a while. I see balance changes as new opportunities to git gud. R.I.P. Caber shenanigans though.

>Had / obtained / unboxed expensive item
Unboxed an Unusual Killer Exclusive on my second try.

>>382841364
>Favorite class?
Demo man
>Favorite map?
gorge or mario Kart v30
>Favorite weapon?
Loch n Load
>When did you start playing?
Free 2 play
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
I'l agree with the notion the game went to shit when it went free to play, but for me personally I stopped back in late 2015 I was gradually worn down by updates that removed the fun like not being able to use 8 sticky bombs at once with the sicky jumper, the final straw was meet your match and i uninstalled it
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
Strange frying pan

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>>382856859
Hey OP are we gonna do some rock2 on the bed

>>382841364
Scout/Soldier
Gravelpit
Pistol
mid-2010
I didn't
dead presidents coupe d'isaster

>>382841364
>Favorite class?
Demoman
>Favorite map?
Badlands
>Favorite weapon?
Grenade Launcher
>When did you start playing?
September, 2007
>When did you stop?
I still play, usually once or twice a month.
>When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
Mannconomy was a big one, then the introduction of CS:GO weaponshit really turned me off of the game.
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
Numerous, I sold them all off for more games.

>p2w

nah, senpai

other than melee weapons, stock weapons are objectively the best for each class with just a few specific exceptions

>>382858990
I really fucking hope they gut the degreaser and buff the stock flamethrower so this will be uniform for every class.

>>382858990
Not to mention that a lot of the best melee and secondary options are given to you for free if you do enough achievements, and every weapon with unique attributes is free if you get them in drops or craft them.

>>382841364

Spy

2fort

You're Eternal Reward

Beta

I can't really remember. I start and stop depending on my mood.

Nah. I kept my breadbox from the Bread update in case it ever skyrocketed in price.

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>>382842167
>MONEY FURNACE
appropriate

>>382859054
They did, dumbass. Degreaser is a Flamethrower sidegrade in both pubs and 6s now.

>>382859520
Nah fuck that sidegrade shit, make it worse, and fuck all those comboshitters.

>>382850923
You are totally offbase if you think all the classes can be made to be totally equal in terms of runnability, even in concept. Especially since the medic exists.

Even Valve doesn't believe in that possibility, Robin Walker himself stated he saw the classes as being divided into generalists and specialists.

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>Favorite Class
Sniper, but I happily go demo if our team is overloaded with snipers
>Favorite Map
pl_Upward
>Favorite Weapon
Stock sniper for its sheer simplicity, Machina when I want to clown around
>when did you start
I had it before MvM, but MvM was when I really picked up the game seriously and gave it a fair shake
>when did you stop
recently. The lack of content updates and the failed ranked system just kind of make me realize that the game wasn't really doing well, but I'm getting back into it with promises of more content
>ever unboxed a rare item
Not really. I have some cheap skins for my preferred guns and stat trackers, but crates never appealed to me.

Sniper is just so much fun when played right, but I understand he's not as useful as the much more versatile classes.

>>382854434
>He doesn't need to be this good.
Yes he does, otherwise there would be no point in playing him.

>>382850923

That pick is retarded. They literally designed the game and classes so that you wouldn't run every class all the time. Spy for example is best when not ran full time due to the nature of the class. THe game is fine in that regard. The only substantial balancing failure of tf2 is pyro which is a hodgepodge of different mechanics duct-taped together to make a semi fuctional class

>>382859675
Yes anon Valve is totally going to listen to that reasoning. Dumbass.

>>382841364
>Class
Heavy/Pyro/Scout

>Map
Ravine

>Weapon
Fishcake and Eureka Effect

>>382859739
>You are totally offbase if you think all the classes can be made to be totally equal in terms of runnability
You're out of touch if you think they can't. They made 3 classes (4 if the sniper main is really good) equally runnable, so what exactly is stopping them from making it 9? Elaborate.
Other games manage to balance a cast of 20 characters (like fightans) or a cast of 100+ characters (like assfaggots). There's no valid reason it can't be done for TF2's miniscule cast of 9.
>Especially since the medic exists
Tell me why the Medic can't be balanced purely by the value of it being a Medic.
>Robin Walker himself stated he saw the classes as being divided into generalists and specialists.
When he said that he was saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of your argument. He was saying that it's a pain to balance the generally applicable classes.
>>382860337
>Yes he does, otherwise there would be no point in playing him
For enjoyment? You know, what video games are designed for?
Medic doesn't have to be "pick him or lose the game" like he is now. He could be balanced alongside the other classes just as well as (stock) Soldier, Scout and Demo are, where the class you pick out of those three is a matter of what you enjoy most, and they're all equally as effective.

I don't get you people who think everything must either be OP or UP and there's no possible inbetween.
>>382860692
>They literally designed the game and classes so that you wouldn't run every class all the time
Factually bullshit. Gunslinger and GRU, and the fact you can pick every class both on offense and defense, and the fact that Engineer has a teleporter integrated into his design that the game explicitly encourages you to use offensively, proves you wrong.
>THe game is fine in that regard

>want to play Demo, Scout or Soldier because that's what you find fun
>but your team has no Medic and the other team does
>FORCED to run Medic if you don't want to lose

This is why it's not fine.

>people think the game was designed for 6v6 and not 12v12

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>>382859262

>>382861917

It's was designed for 8v8 until they said to hell with it and abandoned the original design philosophies

>STOP PLAYING THINGS I DON'T LIKE
I'm aware this is bait but still, jesus fuck.

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>>382841000
done

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>>382861969
>mfw a gambling tic and lust for unusuals set me back two years financially
two years is a lot when you look at it like that. two entire years out of the thirty to eighty i'll have been alive on this earth.

>>382841364
Spy
Badwater
Iron Bomber
Goldrush Update
Can't stop. Won't stop.
Unboxed 2 Unusuals

>voting for a 2fort reskin
For fuck's sake people have some dignity.

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>>382862543
Not to mention if you wanna buy an unusual straight up, chances are you're gonna get jewed when trading for higher tier hats.

>buy up a shitload of unusuals of one hat
>nag the content creator to update it for all class
>wait for patch to drop
>watch the shekels pour in

Anon, after getting MegaJewed in that one way, I just called it quits after getting an identical hat from a sensible trader.

Just came back to tf2, after 1 year of not playing, ai have been playing since 2009, this is the first time i uninstall tf2, in the first match there was a hacker, completely unbalanced, everyone was acting like kids, everyone quits
i feel really sad right now

>>382853508
You can't teleport while holding the intel. Stop lying.

>>382866458
are you stupid
>spy telefrags 5 engies
>saps everything
>takes intel
>runs out

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>>382841364
>Favorite class?
I play every class pretty much equally, but my favorite character is the Engineer.
>Favorite map?
I can never pick. Dustbowl? Badwater?
>Favorite weapon?
Stock Scattergun, crit meatshot.
>When did you start playing?
My badge says 2010, but I swear I started on the Engineer update.
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it ever did?
I take breaks from it every once in a while, but I always come back.
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
I have a rainy unusual hat for the Sniper, which is a big fucking "shoot me" beacon. Bad luck.

>>382846553
Me too anon.

>>382866726
>"sapper is removed and I teleport"
Next time write correctly.

>>382867005
>doesn't know how to read
Anon seriously. That story is fine.

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I'll trade this stupid thing for CS:GO items. Crates and keys are fine too

>>382865912
yeah, it's a struggle to find a single decent match in an hour of play these days.

>GET A JOB
I say this to every person I see playing path of exile

>>382841000
yummy bait

>>382841000
t. Blizzdrone shill

>>382841241
>Tfw no bf

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>>382841364
>So anons, tell me:
>Favorite class?
Spy/Heavy. Runner ups are engie and soldier.
>Favorite map?
Swiftwater. Just the aesthetic alone I love and I want more alpine looking maps into the game since I'm a sucker for that theme.
>Favorite weapon?
Force-a-nature
>When did you start playing?
Sniper vs spy
>When did you stop? When did it go downhill for you, if it every did?
Been playing since '09. I have stopped playing but due to boredom but then I get right back into it.
>Ever had/obtained/unboxed an expensive item?
Sam and max promo items. I traded the max head for some keys and got shit luck on unboxing and traded my lugermorph before it went vintage (cause my dumbass didn't care that it would be higher value than the one from poker night) for a milk man and something else. Kept my big kill cause I liked it. This was like when keys were 2.33 ref so values were much lower.

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THURSDAY BETTER BE THE FUCKING NIGHT!