>tons of people pirate GOG games all the time without ever

>>382835276
Witcher 3 is GOG game and is one best seller game on PC...

DRM is useless, devs should invest the money that they spend on DRM on game optimization.

I've never bought a denuvo game

cool source, bro

>>382835276
If no one buys GOG games how are they still in business?

No shit.

There's literally nothing wrong with Denuvo. Only poorcucks whine about it.

>>382835276
>tons of people
>they
cool sources

Steampunks now have a Denuvo keygen

>>382836096
>devs should invest the money that they spend on DRM on game optimization.
Is the publisher that spend that money though

Based Denuvo triggering third worlders.

>>382836096
They end up making a lot more money by having DRM which gets a lot of people to buy their games instead of pirating them out of impatience problems that are common among consumers in the video game industry. Optimization issues aren't really an issue because people will spend the money PRIOR to experiencing performance issues and most are too lazy to ask for a refund because of it, so the sale is made.

the only reason DRM "works" is because a lot of retarded people that can't into pirating.

the best DRM is going on torrent sites and commenting on how the cracked version ruined your computer and disabled your firewall and antivirus.
it won't work on everyone but a lot of people won't risk checking out if it's true.

>>382836096
I love how, unlike Blizzard or EA, CDProjekt never had the balls to make The Witcher 3 GOG exclusive.

They know no one would pay for it.

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>>382835276
Works at killing your sales, sure.

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What's that OP? I can't hear you over my repack install music for Nier.

>>382837340
So?

That's not DRM working, that's most people being normal and wanting to do what's not illegal

DRM doesn't encourage (or discourage) people to do the right thing. It's a useless tool that does nothing but hurt paying customers

>>382837468
For everyone one person that waited there are five that caved in and paid.

>>382837340
Why limit yourself to one install base when you can also use the steam platform to sell your game

>>382837467
Most of those comparisons work, but Limbo was shoveled in with like 5 Humble Bundles and a bunch of other bundle sites had it too.

>>382835276
>>382836449
>>382836657
>bourgeois dipshits angry that people dont waste money on games like them
>retarded and completely unaware that every denuvo game is cracked the same day since steampunks made a keygen

whats it like knowing i saved the money you spent on games, and bought drugs, better peripherals, monitors, video cards and enjoyed the games more than you, even though i didnt pay for them?

maybe if you weren't autistic mental defectives you could, too

>>382837473
Lol how did Denuvo hurt anyone?

>>382837467
>Newer games are shittier than the previous so poorer sales.

Nothing to see here.

>>382837630
>[citation missing]

>>382836381
delet

>>382837471
>>382837748
You claim that a good game doesn't need DRM to sell, and then you cite a game protected by DRM as an example.

>Why limit yourself to one install base
Because you have a store and you're competing against Valve and Origin? As I said before, explain why Overwatch or Titanfall aren't available on Steam too.

>>382837630
Or the played the demo and bought the game off that or they actually like Yoko taro games and nier and bought it because of that.

>>382837630
Source? Of course you don't have one, you're just trying to justify spending money on a shitty game you didn't have to.

>>382837467
>Comparing games released six years ago to games released last month
>Games that have been part of Steam sales and humble bundles

This image is a pretty good example of /v/'s hopeless stupidity.

>>382836096
Witcher 3 gives you a massive game with hundreds of hours worth of content. Meanwhile it's probably one of the most pirated games to exist. People wonder why DRM is constantly implemented.

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>>382837909
>calling people bourgeois
A fine tip to you, comrade
>using drugs
Explains why you are poor in the first place.

>>382838129
The game producers have already stated it didn't really hurt their sales much. They are pretty happy with not using DRM on it.

>>382837998
Because unlike blizzard and ea they aren't
billion dollar business that have the backing of other games to prop up their store. Also gog isn't meant for the distribution of just CDPR games but mostly old games that are patched to work on newer systems.

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List of uncracked Denuvo games. Wow much effective DRM.

>>382838381
Didn't hurt their sales is a nice way of saying that despite the millions of people who pirated their game, they still were able to sell their game and make profit off of it.

>>382838573
You are a retard if you think every pirated copy is a unsold game.

>>382837340
>Comparing CDPR to Blizzard
>A company that has built up a ravenous fanbase for over 20 years
>And a company that just recently became "AAA"
???

>>382837467
Pretty much everyone has those old games on the left because they get priced at 2 or 3 bucks every few months...

>>382838632
If you go out of your way to pirate the game and play it, you are a lost sale. Period. People who aren't lost sales? People who have no interest in the game, and go out of their way to pirate and play it. You can autistically scream all you want about how you were never going to buy it, but you clearly fucking intended to play it.

>>382837998
>Overwatch
Blizzard. Battlenet only
>Titanfall
Because they're marketing team is absolutely fucking stupid and released both of those games at the worst times anyway.

>>382838680
>Comparing a company that has built up a ravenous fanbase for over 20 years with a company that has built up a ravenous fanbase for over ten years
>And a company that just recently became "AAA" with a company that just recently became "AAA"

Yeah, they've very comparable.

>>382838919
>look up game on torrent site
>download and install
>play

>>382838919
Insane DRMnigger alert.

>>382838919
>If you go out of your way to pirate the game
It's just clicking a link.

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>>382838208
o look, its a american educated teenager thinking they know shit about any ideology whatsoever

hows that mcdonalds job treating you?

>everyone who doesn't buy games is poor
>everyone who uses drugs is poor

as if your previous statement wasn't retarded enough. how many continents have you been to, ameritrash? do you even have a passport?

>>382839256
>unironically usind the word "bourgeois"
>calling people americans
hmmmm

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>>382838121

>>382839256
Third worlder getting triggered that his average salary from his forgettable European country isn't enough in international value to pay for all the American and Japanese made video games he plays. Sorry, your monopoly money isn't worth anything in the real world.

>>382839081
Have fun with those viruses.

>>382835276
I have never had a issue with drm, all I see a butthurt poor people being entitled to play any and every game just because they want it, like fucking children now.

When DRM stuff started? yea it stumbled, servers fucked up people could not play a few titles for a day or two at launch just enough to send people into a lifetime of full on retard whenever the topic is brought up.

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>>382836096
>devs should invest the money that they spend on DRM on game optimization
kek witcher 3 was and still is running like fucking garbage, open world game which barely use cpu, only gpu matters with 7850 i couldn't run it even on lowest with 60fps cuz it was dropping frames like crazy which is a joke since gta v/skyrim on mods runs great, now with oced gtx 1060 + i7 7700k i drop to 45fps ultra settings in forrest for no fucking reason.
Slavs are trash at optimizing games.

>>382839592
not if it's uploaded by a trusted user

>>382839256
Imagine getting this mad at a picture of a hat.

Dumb commiecuck.

Yeah you're right. That's why no new games are released on GoG anymore. Also remember that no Denuvo game has been cracked and subsequently pirated.

WAIT FUCK

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>>382839592
>viruses

>>382836449
Just kill yourself, you are human waste.

>>382837467
Inside had Denuvo?
I guess they abandoned that idea pretty quick, since I bought it on GoG

>>382839559
>>382839497
not from the third world at all, in a country that is always in the top 3 countries to live in in the world

>unironically using the word bourgeois

who said there wasn't any irony? maybe you could also use big words if you had an education worth a shit

>amerifats getting triggered by someone calling out their third world education and laughable lack of travel/worldliness compared to other first world countries

whats it like living in a cultural ghetto, born to a trash tier family?

>>382839592
that's right bro... my litlle brother downloaded a game rip and BAM! got a fucking virus! you know, the that encrypts files, lol.

>>382839671
Get an actual non-meme card and stop complaining you retard

>>382839536
>2.5 months against three years
>Latest game hasn't been part of a bundle yet

Yeah man you sure told me.

Why do faggots on here brag about money like children?

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>>382839989
>non-meme card
what did he meant by that? every new game works fine except shitty witcher 3 and deus ex "i bankrupted my company" mankind divided

>>382839940
>whats it like living in a cultural ghetto, born to a trash tier family?
But I'm not American, I just wanted to pinpoint that the idea of America perepetually triggers you.

>bourgeois
>big word
Extra lol.

>>382839536
nice cherrypicking faggot

Denuvo is funded by EA and Sony.
Highly likely that it's either neofags or actual shills defending it despite the fact that denuvo games now get cracked almost immediately after release.
That or their employees using psyops tactics to make them seem not as bad.

>>382840306
Which other ones would you like to be picked? Not a whole lot of games have actually used Denuvo. I could name a few which have been cracked, if you'd like.

The only thing they would want to install is coin mining. Viruses are a thing of the past. But most trusted releases come from sites like rarbg where any issues can be picked up by those risking to grab stuff the second it comes out and comment on it.

>>382839882
t. poorcuck

>>382835276
Nah, honestly, I pirate everything. Is something worth it to play with friends? I pay for it Do I need to make money off of it (Youtube and shit), I get a free key. It has nothing to do with DRM, just how plain stupid your are.

>>382836449

Its literally the reason why Automata runs like shit.

>>382839963
>>382839705
>>382839743
Yet millions of pirates get fooled by fake downloads every day.

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-in-game-piracy-punishments/

(And that's just from the producers. The majority of downloads are malicious; bitcoin miners and spyware)

>>382840056
t.poorfag neet faggot

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>>382839671
Works on my system

If a game uses Denvuo and it won't be cracked, I buy it off G2A. Fuck you. Either remove it, like DOOM or Limbo did, of which I'll say I'll buy it, or keep it, and I'll just inevitably get it one way or another.

>>382840620
>millions
Oh no millions of children and/or retards were tricked because they were retarded!
Anyone with the slightest bit of common sense has no issues being a piratefag.

>>382840630
Post purchase rationalization is a disease and is not something you should feel proud of.

>>382840719
>If a game uses Denvuo and it won't be cracked, I buy it off G2A
So you get frustrated and buy it anyways. Got it. DRM works.

>>382838919

How the fuck is piracy a lost sale when I can inevitably buy the game, you stupid fuck? Just cause I don't buy on Day one or I pirated that game in the week doesn't mean I won't inevitably own it legit. Hell, I'm 500 games in my Steam library and I buy games I like that I pirated for the sake of not having to keep it on my hard drive.

>>382840957
You're retarded. Its the last ditch effort, sure, but I've only bought Denvuo games after they dropped Denuvo.

>>382840620
Yeah, and millions of people are scammed by Pajeets dialing them and telling that "Your Microsoft PC has a virus gib bux" or install "my nudes.exe".

>>382840957

A publisher considers any sale made afterwards at heavy discounts at a loss. Its made even worse bought off a third party site. They do not like that. DRM doesn't prove shit.

>>382840842


>>382782094

>>382838919
There are actually several studies out there that show that pirates buy more than people who just buy.

>>382840148
pretty big word for someone who cant spell perpetually

>>382841239
Like 90% of that thread is people sharing music they like from piratefag installers or complaining about windows being retarded.
Nice try though.

>Every Denuvo game ever released has optimization issues
>Every. Single. One.

What a fucking coincidence.

>>382841313
Because english is not my native language, dunce.

>>382840580
I dislike Denuvo and DRM in general, but are you sure that's true? I thought I remembered people speculating something else was the culprit but I kinda stopped following the issue.

>>382841434
Not true.

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>>382840714
>he has bought gtx 1080 or 1080ti

nice to know you are niggerian prince with no savings

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I collect ridiculous amounts of shit and never play them. I'm a hoarder of the worse kind.

>>382841434
DOOT 2016 runs great, though it runs better now that denuvo was removed.
Of course running a game through a VM is going to cause issues.
Only a shill would say otherwise.
But chances are the same dumb suits who think DRM actually works are also the same dumb suits who think optimization isn't necessary.

>>382841749
steam library is one hellava drug

>>382841434
Lies. Tekken 7 runs better than any other console port.

>>382841434
nope, those games are just CPU demanding when i upgraded to i7 7700k from i5 2500k my fps increased by a ton in Total Warhammer, ROTTR, Deus Ex MD, JC3.

Prey runs great, Tekken 7 runs amazing even on hyperthreaded 2+2core cpu, same with Resident Evil 7, Dawn of War 3 (aka dead game) was also running well at launch.

While Dishonored 2/Wildlands/Andromeda/Ghost Warrior 3/For Honor/ still runs like shit.

It's all matter of optimization, denuvo would only lower your fps by maybe 1-2 at best.

>>382841465
Go back to your third-world board then, pig-farmer

>>382842201
No.

>>382835276
>300 posts omitted, click here to view

>>382835276
Reminder all "moralfags" are baiting for easy (You)s

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>>382835276
I only buy MMOs

>/v/ suddenly likes Denuvo

What the fuck happened?

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>>382835276

DRM exists to please the shareholders.

It gives them confidence in their investment and also serves as a good scapegoat for terrible business practices when reality calls a shithead marketer's bluff. There has never, and likely will never be any proof that piracy is a "lost sale", since it's practically impossible to prove. But it's not about proving anything true or false, it's about making excuses.

Can also scam a few bucks from dipshit indie devs who make walking simulator pixel shit shovelware that nobody wants to pay for because they see other indie refuse being pirated a squillion times, and think they will have millions of dollars "stolen" from them by those dastardly pirates.

Sleazy businessmen being excuse making twats.

>>382839536
The right thing to show would be how much each game sold in the same period from release
The old games are all cheaper now, so looking at them side by side now means nothing

If the non denuvo games still have consistently more sales you would have a leg to stand on

>>382843328
/v/ is contrarian, more at 11.

>>382835276
>platform addiction due to social attractions and library build-up is the same thing as software DRM

Nah, fuck off denvie.

>he buys video games
losers

>>382841749
imagine the amount of virus and trojan lurking in there

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>>382837467
>>382837967
>>382838121

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>>382845905
FUCKING DELETE THIS

YOU ARE RUINING MY JOB, I HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED

>>382843328
Neofags, corporate whores, consolefags who are exclusive to this generation, newfags, and shills.
2^3chan has a perpetual sharethread and /v/ is stuck with this retarded shit.

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you fucking thieving cunts dont get to say a goddamn thing when you cant even buy games anymore and we all have to pay monthly subs just to stream some shit with 200ms latency

it is YOUR fault

I wanted to play Unravel and never bought it even though I couldn't pirate it.

I just pirated it and got bored after the first level.

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>>382846438
Nah, you allow the companies to treat you this way.

>>382846438
No, it's your fault for letting reject bond villains like the CEO of EA walk all over you and your shekels.

>>382847079
I'm hooked don MMOs, I don't even play anything else anymore

Im just a set of outside eyes telling you all that you are fucking up in the worst way possible

>No demo available
I really don't like that refund shit DESU. It's too easy to fuck up.

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>>382847302
I get stuff for free and you suffer, explain to me how I'm fucking up?

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>>382847616
if you're too retarded to grasp the concept of consequences, then I can't help you.

>>382835276
If DRM free is a failure, why GoG is still a thing?

>>382837340
Wait, what stupid warped logic is this?

>Game is available without DRM
>"Durr, everyone would pirate it, if it weren't for the fact that you also can buy it Steam and stores for consoles and whatnot."

If someone was going to pirate it, why the fuck would a variety of retail outlets somehow thwart them?

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>>382847540
>Try to refund game
>Steam just gives you steam bucks instead

>>382835276
I've never purchased or even want to pirate a game with Denuvo unless I was going to buy it regardless (MGSV)