>Square-Enix produces a great FF game >no one on /v/ cares

The open world meme is literally the game's biggest, most essential flaw. It drained resources and hurt the experience massively.
Go back in time, make the world smaller, decrease the amount of MMO-style quests by 80%, funnel those resources into actually writing the third act and pacing acts one and two.

XV could have been good but the combat was a mess, the magic system near useless unless you want to repeatedly kill your friends, half it's story missing and an overall stank of "fuck it, just ship it already."

>>382807860
Because FF15 is shit, one of the worst "AAA" games I've ever played. It's a turd, an early access turd being sold at full price that expects you to buy season pass for content that should've been in the base game.

But hey, you're XV-kun or a marketer so 0.03$ has been deposited into your account.

It's not a good modern game.

How was episode Prompto?

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You're right, they did produce a great FF game.

>>382808717
>one of the worst "AAA" games I've ever played
It felt like they looked at the past 10 years of Western "AAA" games and tried to include stuff from that without much thought.

>>382809082
You know it's a Japanese game when the boy is far more fuckable than the girl.

>>382809050
Much better than Gladio's, still on the short side, and the snow mobile time trials are fucking bullshit.

>XV-kun thread

Sage report and move on.

>>382809136
>It felt like they looked at the past 10 years of Western "AAA" games and tried to include stuff from that without much thought.
Pretty much, same with MGS5 but MGS5 definitely felt like the better of the two unfinished open world shitfests.

>>382809050
depends, do you like blowing things up with a bazooka?

>>382807860
Because FFVII is objectively better than FFXV:

7: entirely explorable world
15: less than 1/3 of the world explorable + shitload of invisible walls and unreachable areas

7: a huge variety of sceneries
15: always the same stuff

7: a shitload of cities and towns
15: only two cities

7: decent combat without major flaws
15: a chaotic shitfest of a combat with unresponsive commands

7: nine magic elements
15: only three magic elements

7: more than ten summons; all appear at will
15: less than ten summons; all appear at random

7: long and memorable plot complete from start to finish that you witness in person
15: shortest and most incomplete plot ever, with most of the main events happening off-screen

7: lot of playable characters with extremely varied design
15: party comprised of only 4 characters (of which you can only use 1), all dressed in the same way, without any female presence

7: likable characters
15: 90% of the characters are completely devoid of any kind of depth

7: every single music is good
15: only the battle themes are good

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>The DLC is much better than the main game

APOLOGIZE

>>382809741
>15: less than ten summons; all appear at random
You make it sound better than it is.
There's only 4 summons, 5 if you count the scripted Bahamut one during final boss.

>>382809707
Not enough to pay $5 for it. I just wanna know how retarded (or not) the test tube baby plot twist turned out to be.

>>382809082
/thread

>>382807860
/v/ is filled with manchildren that wouldn't know a great game even if it was shoved down their throat.

>>382807860
Dunno, people seem to talk about XIV quite a bit.

>>382809741
I still can't believe Shimomura did XV's soundtrack. She better not botch KH3's I swear.

>>382810053
>Not Directed by TBT
Why should I apologize to this hack again?

>>382810106
Well the DLC ends with Prompto riding on a snow mobile piloted by Aranea firing a turret at his "father", who turned into a giant magitek worm and rampages through a frozen wasteland.

>>382807860
>a great FF game

Wrong. It should've stayed as a spin-off.

>>382807860
It has very little meme potential side from THAT'S IT and Promptography

>>382810467

This. XV was embarrassing.

>>382810383
>I still can't believe Shimomura did XV's soundtrack
She didn't. Check the actual credits for each track.
She only did roughly 1/4 of the soundtrack, all of the tracks by her are recycled from Versus days.

Game was still pretty good but had a bunch of big flaws.

It was shipped before it was done even after they delayed it.
There is so much wasted potential if you look at earlier trailers (especially 2013)

There's also the okay-bad magic system and the combat reliant on the ability to pause the game for items

>>382810567
This is unironically one of my biggest complaints. Back when this game had actual threads, very little OC was being created. You guys suck.

>>382810678
That explains why Somnus is still the best song in the game.

>>382807860
Because it was ass.

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>>382807860
>Square-Enix produces a great FF game
They produced a great game, as a Final Fantasy its no so great. But hey at-least the game can look nice at times.

>>382811017
I prefer Manga Insomnia due to it's suite-like nature mixing Ardyn's, Noctis' and Somnus themes, but Somnus is definitely great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm05H32DOzc

>>382810678
Link the actual credits for the tracks then
She still did most of the OST

>>382807860
Pros.
>good character interactivity between the four lads
>great voice actors in both english and japanese
>graphics look nice, though unfinished in some areas
>music
>foundation for a decent story

Cons.
>horrid fucking combat, it should have had hack and slash combat given the possibilities with a character that can conjure swords.
>bad, non flashy, combat animations which are slow and jumpy
>magic costs a resource you have to gather and takes up an entire weapon slot
>inconsistencies within the already shitty combat
>cannot freely warp or do momentum warps like Nyx in kingsglaive when he goes flying after a dagger throw warp
>mobility is very dull in terms of getting from A to B and combat mobility is Luke warm with every warp strike doing the same thing
>story is not finished and characters need way more development
>the lovers of the game seem to NEVER spend time together
>graphics are shit in some sections, specifically when it comes to planar and rocky areas
>open world being bad enough, it's also one of the dullest out there, consisting of a desert, a forrest littered with empty corners and road ways, and a swamp tucked away in the corner. There is BARELY any thematic diversity as one poster has called it.
>repetitive quests that offer nothing other than money.
>THE WORST BOSSES, HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>DLC which is good for the story but horrible fucking gameplay
>DLC being required for full content
>weapons seem to have negligible unique effects.
>no threats in the open world that follow you other than some weak niffbots
>main cities are barely explorable, Tenebrae flat out isn't and Insomnia does not even cosmetically look that interesting
>higher emphasis on quality of life shit like food and fishing over actual combat
>story and context is not condensed into one game relying on external content
>unfinished engine
>a fan base that neglects to see all the above faults and are complacent as all fuck that they got a glorified tech demo.

OST suffered because there wasn't enough variety. Outside of story battles there are like 4 or 5 battle themes and every big enemy has the same music. It felt cool at first but gets boring really fast.
I hope the PC release in a few years at least fixes some of the graphical and performance problems. Would make the game way more enjoyable

>>382811301
My nigga. As terrible as the final boss was, carrying out the final blow on Ardyn with that opera singer's voice in the background gave me goosebumps.

>>382811302
http://www.ffworld.com/2017/03/01/la-b-o-de-ffxv-disponible-en-version-europeenne-plus-qui-a-compose-quoi/

Here you go faggot, literally all the good tracks are by Shimomura and all the shit ones are by the literally whos that Tabata brought on board.

It fell short of its potential.

>>382809082
>Japanese voice acting isn't even DLC, literally only available through scalpers on preorder editions
But why

>>382811458
>magic takes up an entire weapon slot
How is this a problem? I agree with almost everything else though.

>>382811458
Fun fact, combat was actually good in the very old demos before Tabata raped the game.

>>382811458
If there is ever a pc version that is fully mod-able I will hope someone is capable of making these changes

>stop slow down effect on certain attacks
>speed up animations to be more consistent and assigned to button presses instead of holding down a button
>crunchier
>make magic not a resource and not take a weapon slot (only realized how retarded that was till you mentioned it)
>double jump
>a launcher attack
>better aerial attack animations
>an actual smooth dash instead of a shitty jumpy roll animation
> a shit ton more open world threats
>more mobs every where
>make it actually possible to switch the weapons while running
>more weapons with a mechanic to switch between two weapon configs
>don't make royal arms cost health

It would bump my personal score for this game from a 4 to a light 6.

>>382812201
Whats the point? It just limits variety and will be gone after you have used all your spells. It only does one move as well so it seems pointless it taking a whole weapons slot when it could easily be assigned to another button. I don't get how this could be seen as nothing but a good design change.

Well, maybe XVkun wouldn't see it that way.

>>382812382
>light 6
That's known as 6- anon

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>friend brings out ffxv to play

>>382808112
>The open world meme is literally the game's biggest, most essential flaw.

Older retro FF games were basically open world in sprite form.

>>382811458

>great voice actors in both english and japanese
Most English VAs suck tho. They fucked up some scenes and even Ardyn has some lows in the game
>graphics look nice
sometimes

>horrid fucking combat
The problem is that the combat is okay. It's not really shit but also very far from good.

>combat animations
I really like some of the animations but yes

>magic costs a resource you have to gather
cool system
>and takes up an entire weapon slot
Shit system

>inconsistencies within the already shitty combat
?
>cannot freely warp or do momentum warps
That really annoys me
>mobility
ED was fun to traverse but the full game isn't and most options are pretty tedious
>combat mobility
huge problem

>story is not finished and characters need way more development
Main 4 were great but every other character suffered

>the lovers of the game seem to NEVER spend time together
It's kind of justified by the plot but she dies way too early

>graphics in rocky areas
Oh yes

>open world
I actually really like the design and areas once you get out of Leide but there should have been more. Exploring Tenebrae and Gralea should have been in

>quests
I liked some hunts
>BOSSES
Aranea was a cool concept and Ifrit was fun

>DLC which is good for the story but horrible fucking gameplay
EP Prompto was good, Gladio was shit and felt like Noctis 0.5

>weapons seem to have negligible unique effects.
Except for elemental weapons

>no threats in the open world
Yes

>main cities are barely explorable
Valid complaint

>Insomnia does not even cosmetically look that interesting
Insomnia looks great but the part you're in is too small and "dungeon-y"

>food and fishing over actual combat
Food and fishing were cool parts of the game and not done by the same team.

>story and context is not condensed into one game relying on external content
Relying is a bit hard imo. You will just get a way worse experience

>a fan base
it's also overhated

>>382812960
You need to go back

>>382812305
TGS 2014 had the best combat.

>>382808112
This is why NieR>BotW for me when it comes to GOTY.
BotW is basically "What would happen if Ubisoft made Zelda", including even shitty DLCs like making spongy enemies and calling it "Hard Mode". Not even new animations and attack patterns or better AI.
At least NieR stuck to it's own design and Yoko Taro didn't try to make another meme game.

>>382812931
They were open level, not open world.

>>382812960
problem I have with the open world is that its just fucking flat, theres an odd slope here and there but it just seems very dull. I look at Horizons landscape and it is filled with cliffs, high vista, mountains that make the Forrest on the floor have curves and natural platforms. Its very, very dull.

>>382812960
>ood and fishing were cool parts of the game and not done by the same team.

Yes but in my eyes its all the same because of budget allocation. That team had a budget and given the outcomes it seemed very high and I feel it would have been better spent elsewhere.

>>382812931
Removing the Worldmap was a mistake

>>382813360
Don't forget the flora. Hideous shades of green, yellow, and brown are the only existent colors in FFXV.

>>382811281
Fuck, why does this game look so inconsistent? Looks great one minute then shit the next

>>382812382
>speed up animations to be more consistent and assigned to button presses instead of holding down a button
Holding itself isn't a problem but the execution is shit.
>make magic not a resource
That's really not a problem
>and not take a weapon slot
Yes please
>double jump
Would be nice
>better aerial attack animations
The 1H sword ones are okay. Need netter ones for the spear and more for GS and Daggers
>an actual smooth dash instead of a shitty jumpy roll animation
more mobility in general would be nice
> a shit ton more open world threats
>more mobs every where
Yes please
>make it actually possible to switch the weapons while running
Yes
>more weapons with a mechanic to switch between two weapon configs
somehow need more weapons yes
>don't make royal arms cost health
They aren't even that strong so making them cost MP or just no drawback would be enough

>>382813017
kk

>>382813360
It's not really that flat but I know what you mean most of the verticality is from small hills or slopes there aren't any explorable mountains

>>382813501
They were too ambitious in the beginning and not ambitious enough near the end

>>382809741
>without any female presence
You're not going to convince nu-/v/ that this is a bad thing

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>>382809741
>Without any female presence

This isnt tumblr bro

>>382807860
I still have pleny of games to get through, never finished VII, I'll finish XV when I damn well please

>>382813798
To me holding is a very big problem personally. I am a big kinaesthetic whore, one attack, one button press. It feels better in an individuals mind according to some studies done on as to why gaming feels good on the brain. Id link you the study if I remembered it.

And magic is a big problem for me, I hate when spells require a resource that needs to be gathered, just makes magic feel more like a grenade than an actual source of magic a king is supposed to have. Really draws me out of the world and makes me presume Noctis as weak. Not to mention I don't like when gathering is inclined with action combat gameplay.

>>382811750
There are plenty good tracks that aren't by Shimomura
Tetsuya Shibata did many great tacks for the game

>>382813036
2013 had the best trailer and should have been used as their goal
2014 was second best
Fuck why were the trailers so great.

>>382813772
Most ground textures are shit and draw distance is really bad. Ground in Lestallum is ok and you don't notice Draw distance because of buildings

Speaking of magic, wasn't Ignis originally able to use spells like a white mage or some shit?

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>>382807860
Stop shilling this game. Seriously. It's just the same OP over and over making this thread so that when people say "alright well it had flaws" he can go on a "NO U HAVE FLAWS HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY FAVORITE VIDEO GAME I WILL FUCK UR DOG TILL IT DIES REEE" shit show

>>382814379
>2013 had the best trailer and should have been used as their goal
Lets be real 2013 wasn't real gameplay. 2014 was honestly what I expected the final product to be like.

>>382814273
I agree that using magic feels like shit but I liked the natural feel of the magic. Would have been cool if Noctis had more innate magic and the elements were drawn from nature.
The magic crafting also has way too much limited potential and limiting your element stock that much was also really dumb

>>382813798
its also a fact with trees, they seems all the same and no forrest actually feels like a Forrest they just feel like patches of trees thrown in with some dev tool brush. If there were more areas that are similar to weird hole in the ground area with the big engine where you have to escort Ignis around, it would make a huge difference to me. Whether they went up or down I feel they should sort of litter the entire game and have bosses and rare weapons tucked away within them. Go into your closest forrest right now, they are anything but flat and sloped, there are constant dips and high rises.

>>382813689
Word Up.

>>382814126
>Something that's been in Final Fantasy since the second game
>Belongs on tumblr
I hate neo-/v/

>>382814552
(You)

>>382814584
I know that it wasn't gameplay but it still looked like they could reach the combat they had if they worked towards it. 2014 also looks fucking great but also slower than 2013.

>>382814635
I kind of liked the woods with the river in Cleigne but Behemoth woods sucked.
The one with the engine looked great and would have been way better with more mobility

Also forests close to cities tend to have at least one proper straight path through them

>>382809082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC3J0882mkQ

>>382815007
Don't (you) me. It's fucking true and you know it cunt

>>382815007
One straight path sure, but the whole fucking thing was just planar.

>>382814126
>wanting waifus in your party is now considered tumblr

>>382807860
It's good now a year later and that it's been patched and now has several DLCs. The base game at launch was so obviously unfinished.

Driving was not fun making calculations on whether it would take less time to fast travel or drive was a decision you had to make on almost every trip. Anything that took less than 1-2 minutes to drive to was faster than quick traveling.

>>382815297
Not like it matters. every girl in this game except Iris is shit.

>>382814936
First game, Sakaguchi confirmed White Mage was female.

>>382815323
Lol they are all just band aid addons. It doesn't fix the rotten to the core shit with this game like combat, bland landscape, base story, etc.

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>>382807860

Because now matter how old I get, I'll never outgrow my first waifu.

>>382815323
It's still shit, dude.

>>382807860

Did they recently release another FF besides XV that we don´t know about?

Now if only SE would FINISH said FF game.

>>382815905

Stormblood, if you want to get technical.

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>>382815510
So healsluts were a thing way before MMOs existed?

>>382815982
Healsluts were a thing in RPGs like Ultima long before FF existed.

>>382815975

So OP is saying that stormblood is great then? Is it?

>>382816373
Explain, in that old shit like Ultima I thought anyone could heal.

>>382816950
Point is you could make a female character that was a dedicated healer. The concept of female that specializes in healing and buffing is ancient as fuck.

>>382813960
Of course, nu-/v/ hates "waifus" ie any attractive female.
>>382814126
But tumblr has fujoshi. This is a blessing.

>>382807860
Fuck off, XV-kun.

>>382816507

Stormblood is the best mainline FF game released in the last year.