Trash trilogy confirmed completely butchered. https://twitt

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>>382776769

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What if Crash was the hot one and Tawna was not?

We knew this since forever

I noticed his footage is only from 1. Are 2 and 3 different or is it the same physics for all three?

>>382776769
It really doesn't matter

>>382777365
all the games use 3's jump physics. The platform shoving you off issue is unique to the remaster though.

butchered or not. I platinum'd every game.

>>382777445
It does when you fucking slip off platforms in a platform game.

Before N.Sane Trilogy came out i played Crash 1 again & didn't die once on Road to No Where & Slippery Climb

The jumps throw me off so badly

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>>382777445
>Fuck up controls of a 20 year old game
>it doesn't matter bro haha, just enjoy the game

>>382777759
You can compensate for every single situation though. Just realize that when you jump you will land about a inch forward from your shadow.

Its kinda gay but its not random atleast.

I will say that for the most part, the jumping in Crash 1 is OK and can be worked around (Just beat it this morning).

The only exceptions are the two bridge levels that were pretty much designed around exploiting the original's jumping physics. While it was still a pain in the ass in the originals, it is do-able and left some room for error. Now? It feels like everything is pixel perfect.

I do hope they address it in patches, since his current movement in Crash 1 really makes me not want to attempt 100% it.

>>382778172
imo, climbing on the ropes was harder in the original & done just to show off, but now it's the easier way to beat it by far

funny that

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>>382777871
it doesn't matter
just enjoy the game
you joyless fuck

>>382776769
>remake of 20 year old platformer
>instead of moving past the limitations of the day and making it 60fps, they keep it fucking 30 with mediocre graphics
>don't actually add any new content or anything
>somehow fuck up the platforming and make it control worse and less precise than the original, that was one of the first 3D platformers ever
How do you fuck up this fucking hard? They had one goddamn job and they didn't do it correctly.

>>382777445
>the most fundamental elements of gameplay don't matter in a game

>>382778683
>they kept it at 30

I'm sorry, what?

>>382777871
It's a minor difference. What, are you too shit to adapt to a minor difference? Must be.

>>382778803
changing how jumping works in a platformer isn't minor, and there should be no "differences" in something that is nothing more than a graphical remaster

>>382778924
Okay. Please keep crying about what should be instead of dealing with reality.

>>382776769
Why should i trust a person on twitter called "dingdong"?

>>382776769

So /v/ will finally stop to open threads of this shitty game,and I will probably stop adding image hashes on filters

.>>382778683

Wasted all the money into marketing and Destiny 2

I fucking knew it. Didn't stop me from getting all the gems though. Git gud

>>382778775
It's runs at 30fps on a PS4 pro
>>382778858
No one at all brought up Nintendo in this thread

>>382778775
The N sane trilogy runs at 30fps so they can prioritize flashy graphics instead of making it 60fps and control better.

get good

>>382779073
Seeing as he's a game designer himself, yes.

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>>382776769
So why not just adjust to it? Doesn't take too long to get used to it, and it's not like it completely breaks the game.

The turtle thing is bullshit though I'll give him that.

really need to patch that and some of the weird hitboxes

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>>382778924
I just don't understand the reasoning of devs sometimes.

>MCC gets announced
>343 studios has one job: port xbox game to xbox 1
>proceed to port pc version to xbox 1

Who gives a shit about some miniscule difference to the original? Take it into account when you're jumping or whatever. If only it were easier to git gud than to whine on the internet!

>>382778924
Its not a remaster thought dumbass

Ding Dong is an autist that complains about every little thing wrong with a game, even if it's something that doesn't actually affect gameplay in any way and tries to deflect any criticism thrown his way.
With that said these issues are pretty legitimate and he's still based regardless.

>>382779478
It's practically a port

>>382779053
if i walked up to you in a food court and snatched your burger out your hands and put a booger, not my booger, in it and handed it back to you you wouldn't do anything about it

if no one complained about bad things then nothing would improve or change, in fact here's an example from a few months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIjubums4cI

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We all know the real reason they made it.

>>382779568
no

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>>382779581
i'd give coco all of my upboats, if you know what i mean

>>382779478
>Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy is a platform video game compilation developed by Vicarious Visions and published by Activision for the PlayStation 4. The game is a collection of remasters of the first three titles in the Crash Bandicoot series
You buy this game because you want the exact same game from 20 years ago with better graphics, if there's gameplay differences then it fails at its job

The changed jump arc isn't a big problem, you have to be trying to sound smart or have a stick up your ass to complain about it like it ruined the game. The only bad change they made was falling off the edges of the platforms like the tweet showed.
Also judging by the responses dingdong gets on every tweet he makes whining about something, it looks like he's cried on twitter enough for everyone to take him very seriously 100% of the time now and defend him when he rants for 20 minutes about two people who said he played banjo kazooie wrong.

>>382777445
This. It only matters for you if you are autistic.

>>382779687
>posts irrelevant shit from wikipedia for some reason
Okay bud its still not a remaster. Pick up a dictionary before you start throwing around the hot lingo you hear your e-celeb idols use

>>382777004
The thread should have ended here

>>382776769
I knew something was up cause i've been falling into pits way more then when i play the original. hopefully now that this has been brought to attention they can patch it up. still enjoying the remake though but getting through Crash 1 is getting more frustrating then it should be.

>>382778803
The slightly falling faster thing, although noticeable, isn't the issue. It's the sliding off of edges that is. Don't know how many lives I've lost due to landing on the edge of a platform to watch Crash/Coco slip backwards and plummet to his/her death.

>>382776769
...Well thats it then...

The game just came through the post but now I've gotta send it back...

This is truly the dark souls of regret.

>>382779809
>>382779690
No, even normies are complaining about it, it makes Crash 1 a ton harder

>>382779846
Ook you want a better source? Here is the exact moment when it was announced at E3
https://youtu.be/w7yKx8iVti0?t=28s
pay attention to him saying "FULLY REMASTERED"
you gonna fess up and admit you're wrong or keep moving goalposts?

>>382780032
truly the dark souls of normies

This is just baddies patting themselves in the back

>>382779578
there's quite some difference between you doing something revolting to me in person and developers making a minor change to a games jumping mechanic, dipshit.
complain about things actually worth complaining about.

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>twitter
>my opinion that doesn't matter to anyone besides retards
i dont know wheres the pic so , kill yourself retard

>>382777102
i would fuck crawna

>>382779687
The games were remade from the ground up. They didnt even have the original source code.
>>382776769
The physics are fine you spaz, i had no trouble at all getting 100% on crash 1, the slipping of platforms is rare as fuck.

>>382780041
The game is remade from scratch, it is not a remaster of old assets.
>moving goalposts
lol wtf are you talking about? i did no such thing. more fucking buzzwords from this idiot. try having an independent thought once in your life retarded memester

>>382780168
Truly the dark souls of differences

This remaster and everyone complaining that it's too hard is proof of the shift from trial and error to holding your hand being the norm in gaming

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>>382778269
Road to nowhere deserved it. Fuck that level in both the original and remake.

Only thing fucked in crash 1 are the turtles.

>>382780234
People are complaining because they changed things. You are trying to put up an strawman argument that nobody brought up so you can ignore the issue at hand.

>>382780303
why do people keep mentioning road to nowhere and not the high road

>>382780337
Truly the dark souls of turtles

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hmm...these game reviewers from 1996...they really made me think

>>382780041
https://www.vg247.com/2017/06/22/crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy-was-developed-without-the-original-source-code/
Try using google next time

>>382780371
The game was made by activision. You know what, nevermind. Enjoy your 3 days vacation.

>>382780360
Because the names are similar

>>382776769
Literally the Dark Souls of Platformers.

>>382780371
Truly the dark souls of autism

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>>382777102
>delicious Crash bara
please tell me there's more

>>382780360
because road to nowhere comes a ways before the high road

>>382780342
lol have you played the game

>>382780376
That mario review reads like a literal shill paid advert.

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Is the Ford Pinto the Dark Souls of automobiles?

>>382780376
we need reviewers like this again. they tell it like it is.

>>382780441
is that the guy that review hamburgers in a suit?

>>382780503
Yes?

>>382780209
>>382780404
my point isn't that "they just took the ps1 game and put better grafix" my point is that it's a remaster, not a remake. a remake changes a game, a remaster is supposed to play the same and have better graphics, so if a game that calls itself a remaster (which it does) doesn't play like the original then it's missing the point

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Jumping is completely fine, the fall animation just starts faster which makes people think it's more unfair than the original.

Turtle momentum is the only thing that needs to be patched in 1 and i haven't found a single issue in two.

>>382780581
Now who's moving the goalposts

>>382780587
>23 of 25
SCRUB
C
R
U
B

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>>382780554
Can't be Reviewbrah, they're not dressed nicely.

>>382776769
Will it come to PC? I hope so, and hopefully at 60fps too.

>>382780617
that was my point since the beginning, see >>382778924 >>382779687

>>382780564
And you still think changing two minor things completely change the difficulty of the game?

>>382780647
2 are DLC you sperglord.

Haha this thread is truly the dark souls of 4chan

>>382780647
The final 2 are of dlc that hasn't released yet.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgWzeB5-0vA

Apologize.

>>382780715
Stop with your strawman. Nobody except you is talking about difficulty. It's different than the original. That's the only thing that matters.

>>382780581
by your own definition, this is a remake.
they DID make changes to the games, maybe not the core mechanics (but then why would they) but they made several QoL changes across all 3 games. unless those don't count for some ridiculous reason.

>>382779560
>when Ding Dong got really whiny and passive aggressive about Youtube comments to the point he started throwing a fit on Twitter then tried to damage control saying it was all a joke

Can't wait for his game to come out and see people complain about it the same way he does

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>>382780587
Fuck, you beat me, though I played some other games meanwhile

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>>382780823
>Apologise
Speak the Lord's english you fucking traitor.

>>382780764
>>382780742
>not being able to bypass impossible limits
DID
I
STUTTER
SCRUB

>>382780690
i dont care? i'm telling you its not a remaster and that you don't know what that word means.

btw it plays almost exactly like the original, the only people calling this a major difference are autists and scrubs. you would know if you actually played it

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>>382780880
get on my level

You're all such sad human beings trying to trash a remade bunch of 20 year old games. It's pathetic to witness. Enjoy your games and shut the fuck up.

If you have trouble on even just beating crash 1 remaster as an adult you are terrible at vidya and should just get a new hobby.
The only hard gem in the entire game now that you only need to perfect run coloured gems is slippery climb.
I could understand whining about that, but these losers are complaining about shit like the road to nowhere.
>b-but it's the games fault
Try actualy making the jump next time instead of making weak excuses.

>>382779690
Ding Dong has been known to not take criticism easily, or tries to deflect it in some way or like you said there's enough of a Ding Dong Defense Force that will defend whatever he says (same with anyone with a sizable fanbase on Twitter really)
To be honest, I get where's coming from with the complaints but he just sounds so whiny about them. Oney does a better job of shwoing what he finds wrong with while still being able to sound like he enjoys it. If you watch the OneyPlays videos they're doing now, Ding Dong and Julian just sound like they're trying to find every little thing to find wrong with the game.

Looking for that webm of all the crates falling on Coco
Please help

>>382781007
Sorry but I don't actually have a ps4, borrowed it from my brother and had to take it back today ;-;

>>382781007
No, get on my level.
psnprofiles.com/monteblommie

>/v/ trying hard to shit on the game while I'm over here having a blast with it
I'm trying not to rush through 2 & 3 but I really want to see the jet pack and future levels

>>382781072
The gold relics are fucking brutal in crash 1 dude

>>382780376
The Mario 64 review does not mention gameplay at all

>>382780975
>head of playstation announces it as a remaster
>official website describes it as a graphical remaster https://www.activision.com/games/crash/crash-bandicoot-n-sane-trilogy
>i-it's not a remaster!
you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. a remaster entails it playing "exactly" like the original, not "almost exactly" like the original

>>382781231
>trying for gold on road to nowhere
i long for death

>>382781107
anon you don't understand they're game devs that know 100 times more than any dev does nowadays because they analyze and look at games objectively and they have their own studio to make games even though they've never released anything and have only shown very minor things at best but they know better!

I'm looking forward to their games regardless but holy hell their criticisms are gonna put them in a tight spot if even their own games are mediocre

>>382781231
You dont even need them for 100%
Only reason to get them is for trophies and e-peen comparison.

>>382780506
Sounds like most Nintendo reviews in general. Look at the ARMs perfect scores lmao.

>>382781072
>complaining about shit like the road to nowhere
This shit makes me laugh because that level is seriously like around the half point of the game. If they're already having trouble at that point then they're just not going to make it

>>382781371
They are literally wrong, just like you. if someone were to remake an album from 20 years ago with completely new musicians and a different recording studio you would not call it a remaster because that would be retarded.

>>382781554
getting all relics gets you to 101%
all gold+ relics gets you to 102%
just fyi

He's getting fucking platinum relics on everything, the absolute madman.

>>382781554
need em for 102 percent though don't ya?

>>382780853
You have to be a massive autismo to be bothered by the miniscule changes in any stage except the high road (which is easier in the remaster anyway).

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>>382776769
>Ding Dong says people only prefer Crash 3 over 2 because of nostalgia
>proceeds to nitpick the games to hell and back because of nostalgia
the momentum shit with the turtle is lame I'll give you that but everything else they've said about the game is subjective

>>382781723
it isn't easier imo the rope walk is finicky in the remaster and the turtles don't work properly.

>>382776769
They really fucked up hard with the collision detection on just about everything, I've noticed it in all 3 games in the remaster. I still had fun with it but if I ever want to replay these games I'm definitely just going to play the originals (emulated or on-disc) instead of these "remasters".

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>>382781787
>sees Uka Uka in Crash 3
>"Oh wow I really like how expressive he is now!"
>sees N. Brio in Crash 2
>"ugh he wasn't this expressive in the original this is lame"

>>382781656
>EVERYONE IS WRONG EXCEPT ME
lmao this is the point you've reached just because you don't want to admit to being wrong. it's a good thing videogames aren't in any way comparable to music or movies, so the term "remaster" means a completely different thing for this medium, which is why there's the distinction between "remaster" and "remake" to begin with

>>382778683
>limitations of the day and making it 60fps, they keep it fucking 30
The original games ran at 60 you worthless bandwagoning parrot. At least understand what you're supposed to be mad about.

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>>382780189
>Opinion
>Linked video showing comparisons between the old and new is somehow an opinion
If anyone needs to be offed here it's you.

>>382781969
His problem with Brio is that he's a fucking speech now instead of just having a huge stutter.

>>382782196
*sperg
This is why I normally just lurk at work.

>>382782103
>The original games ran at 60
Anon you're retarded, all 3 of the originals were capped at 30 fps

>>382781787
I'm not saying it is nostalgia, but really what reason would you have for preferring 3? The vehicle stages do suck which is a shame because 3's settings are cool.

>>382778775
>>382779195
Reminder that it's not even a steady 30; it's been shown to dip to 20.

>>382780376
reviewers from 2017
>[GAME] is the Dark Souls of [GENRE]

>>382782476
>it's been shown to dip to 20.
in cutscenes or gameplay?

>>382782550
only cutscenes

>>382782550
Cutscenes. Certain ones dip. They are done with the engine so that may be why.

>>382782646
>only cutscene

Just one.

they were never going to make it perfect because they didn't use any of the original code.
none of it.
So they were basically just guessing when it came to replicating the physics of the original, you also miss out of a lot of exploits because they probably didn't realize you could do them.

I thought this was the reason I kept dying, but then I stopped sucking

>>382782348
not that anon but I guess for me Crash 3 just plays slightly better and some of the levels I found more interesting. Although yes I agree the motorcycle levels are not fun but I've never seen anyone defend them let alone say they're good. It feels like Ding Dong tries to create a strawman about the game instead of accepting that some just like 3 over 2 for whatever reason

I really hope this is something they'll patch. I'm finding myself sliding off shit way more than I'd like to.

>>382780554
It's his sister Lorde.

>>382783185
Ding Dong is an autist what do you expect? Whenever someone has a different opinion about whatever he's talking about he gets defensive and begrudgingly accepts it

>>382781371
>other people call it "x"
>therefore, if i call it that, I am right, even though it isn't x by any means.

>>382780581
are you the same anon I already blew the fuck out in the other thread?

A remake can be identical or different.
The remake of Psycho was shot for shot the same as the original.
But a remake like The Fly is vastly different plot wise.
The only requirement of a remake is that it is being re-made.

A remaster is redistributing the original at better quality.
This can be by using the master recording (source code for games I guess) or by reverse engineering a lesser distribution.
Literally the only reason they labelled this trilogy a "remaster" is because that's the trendy phrase that Sony has been using since last gen.
Kind of like how every movie remake is being called a "reboot" now to give the impression there's going to be some epic cinematic universe and they're serious about it THIS time.

>>382776769
Get gud skrub

FUCK HIGH ROAD TIME TRIAL

WOAH
OOGA
WOAH
OOGA
WOAH
LONG AS FUCK DEATH ANIMATION
OOGA
WOAH
OOGA

FUCK THIS FUCKING GAME
JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING PLAT ALREADY

>>382783446
no i don't know what thread you're talking about
>reverse engineering a lesser distribution.
so you agree that it's a remaster? also the term has been around longer than TLOU and is used by more than sony

>>382781969
Brio looks like shit tho

>>382780032
Then just git gud.

They just made the games harder is all, quit whining and git gud

>>382786459
>>382786263
>>382783938
Getting gud doesn't invalidate the criticism that this is a flaw in the design which should not be there.

>>382776769
Doesn't that make the games just a bit harder?

>>382786680
The games should also run at 60fps, but i'd bet you don't give a shit about that.

>>382786680
And people are still able to get plat relics for crash 1. Just suck it up and take the game for what it is.

The only reason this is an issue for anyone is because you're too used to the original game's controls. Treat it like a brand new game (which it is) and adapt or you have no right to complain. The game is FAR from unplayable because of this shit.

>>382786680
>a flaw in the design which should not be there
if you're talking about the jump mechanics, that's debatable.
They may have intentionally changed the way the jumps work. Different doesn't mean wrong

What's with the overly defensive posts in this thread like >>382781029?

Are you scared they won't make new Crash games if people have ANY criticism of this whatsoever?

>>382787395
>won't make new Crash games
I love the trilogy but I don't want this. People seem to think that the people who made this game aren't the idiots who ruined the series in the first place. All they did was create new textures for an already existing game. Their original ideas have historically been terrible.

>>382787626
https://www.google.pl/amp/wccftech.com/activision-ceo-seeing-real-passion-crash/amp/
They are considering something like CTR remaster down the line

so that's why is it so fucking hard............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

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mfw crash says whoa

Daily reminder that people complain because games are way easier these days, Crash 1 was the hardest part in Uncharted 4

>>382776769
so

>they fixed gravity
>when you jump in the same spot like retard then you slip

I LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM

also they are using CB3 gameplay on the trilogy which is different from 1 and 2

Is it just me or do slides not come out sometimes in Crash 2?

>>382787304
>They may have intentionally changed the way the jumps work
I wish I had the source but I remember reading somerhing about VV changing stuff slightly on purpose because they wanted even older players to have a new experience with the games.
In all honesty I'm okay with that since it would've been boring to 100% the games in a few hours like a lot of older players already can with the originals.

>>382790079
Nice, I didn't know that.
I'm glad too. It's fucking infuriating sometimes but at the same time it is nice. It's breathed some life into this game whereas if it was exactly the same it would have been a waste of money, and pretty boring you're right

Go play Wrath of Cortex for five minutes.

Then play the first levels of 1 in this.

Tell me what you notice. Because I was in denial about it but they somehow made the controls very similar in all of the problems that they have.
-Jumps are difficult to gauge in distance for even routine jumps
-Bounces are too ridiculous
-They also don't work the way they used to, requiring holds instead of allowing for presses to lengthen jumps

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>I can't adapt to the slightly changed gravity and physics of a remade game I haven't played since 1998 so it's flawed