Everyone post top 5 most played, Everyone judge >inb4 Star

>>382749924
>500 hours of TF2
>next in line is 14 hours of Hotline Miami 2
you are like a baby with good taste

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I genuinely don't understand how CSGO is my second highest. I felt like I barely ever played, and only ever got to silver 2

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Elder Scrolls Online - 286 hours
Dark Souls III - 239 hours
Fallout 4(modded) - 194 hours
DOOM(2016) - 191 hours
Warframe - 115 hours

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i hate myself.

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>>382749924
I apologize for nothing.

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TF2- 3365 hours
MGSV- 214 hours
Left 4 Dead 2- 161 hours
Half-Life 2- 132 hours
Mortal Kombat X- 80 hours

>>382749924
Fuck you STO is cool.

>>382750904
>needing more time on dark souls 3 (the easier game)
heh

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Top six because fuck you OP

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>>382751108
Man, of all the faggotry in my image and that's the thing you focus on? You're not even trying to troll me.

Besides, I have more characters in DaS3. And DaS1 is easy as shit in comparison.

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>>382751485
There's also a larger player base in DaS3, including more newer, & less skilled meaning you can just fuck with people for days brah.

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r8/h8

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>>382749924
What is your problem with STO babby?
Are you underage, and that's why you have no playtime on actual games?

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TF2 barely counts since everyone idled for scrap at one point

>>382751783
You're one of those guys that's excited for the prospect of an apocalypse, aren't you?

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Other games like For Honor of BFBC2 have a few hundred hours I just don't have them on Steam.

>>382755426
No, I just love games with good gameplay.

>>382749924
>reddit
Pls go

>>382750904
>152 hrs in NV
>105 in RoR
What's to apologize for?

>>382755552
SPESS MEHREENS

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lads

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Rate me pls

Fite me

>>382751783
>Bad Company 2
Nothing else matters. God bless.

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>>382755928

anyone have the guy with like 28000 hours in football manager and 1k in crusader kings from earlier

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Rate me senpai

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>>382756032
nvmd found it in history

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>>382749924

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Here's 10

>>382749924
I have like 200 hours in Star Trek Online, what's your point faggot?

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>Everyone's playtime is so low
What the fuck is everyone doing seriously though kill me

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>suka blyad rush b no stop

tf2 was years ago though

damn this top 5 makes me feel like a complete normie

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Regrets.

>>382755886
mexican/10

>>382755873
get a life/10

>>382755857
normalfag/10

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Too bad TF2 is full of nothing but autists and bronies

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no ragrets

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Ive just recently got a gaming PC so i never payed attention to steam. Now i have no great games and people to play with.

Also Rimworld should be higher I had the drm version first.

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>>382750156
Same thing here but with Dota 2.

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on mobile and too lazy to crop

>>382756659
Pretty supreme taste anon

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>>382756226
Normie as fuck

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>>382755552
>DoW 2
Any reason that you prefer that over 1? I've been eyeing it for a while but have never been able to commit.

Here's mine. The CS:GO isn't all me. I've let my brother use my account since I've gone to college.

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I wish I played more videogames

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I have no idea how Stick of Truth is that high, I don't remember playing it anywhere near that much.

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>>382749924
I have another account but it's not much better than this.

Tons of dota 2 smurfs but I won't bother with those.

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>>382757158
Here is my primary alt. Most games I put around 30-40 hours into and then drop and go back to playing space station 13 or guild wars 2.

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I regret all of them but GTA and Rocket League.

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>>382749924
holy fucking shit I'm garbage
>500 hours in maplestory
>DSII twice as many hours as 1
>Binding of Isaac
>fucking starbound

>>382756431
>mexican/10
spaniard, actually.

And white.

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>>382749924
>tfw you had your steam account since the steam beta
>tfw you played a ton of games all day before steam started to keep track of the time played
>tfw steam achievements wasnt implemented either
>tfw you got older and started to get bored of games
>tfw you also didnt have even remotely the same amount of time to spend on games
>tfw it looks like I have no achievements or hardly any played time at all
>tfw 12 year olds mock me when they see my profile, even though I have put 1000+ hours into games like CS:S

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>>382756853
Thanks Anon.

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>>382757443
>Spaniard
>white

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I dont game on the PC that often

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>>382756883
I prefer the focus on tactics, micro, adapting on the fly to enemy tactics and unit composition, keeping units alive not treating them like worthless fodder (canon for races like Eldar & SM). Thats all for pvp though, dont really care about the campaign. Also I fucking love Last Stand.

If you dont know if you will enjoy it or not, watch some casts of multiplayer games. Its a good way to learn about all the different damage/armor types and how to generally play the game.
https://www.youtube.com/user/DoWReplaysNet

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I don't play much of video games compared to most people here

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>>382749924
TEAM FORTRESS TWO IS THE SINGLE BEST ALL-AROUND MULTIPLAYER VIDEO GAME EVER CREATED.

USA

USA

>>382749924
you don't really play games do you?

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>barely anyone in this fucking thread has over 1000 hours in even a single game

No wonder this board is complete shit, you faggots barely even play video games.

>>382751108
`dark souls 1 is piss easy, it has only 1 hard boss fight

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Top one is obviously just AFK'd to hell and back, so I included 6. Really there's so little on PC I care about after GunZ and S4 League died off.

>>382757989
Or people enjoy playing multiple games instead of spending all day on just one. Fucking normie.

>>382757989
most of my games with huge amounts of time in them pre date steam or arent on the client
I had almost 3 years playtime on my rogue in wow before quitting in 2011

>>382757671
Want a pic of my gf to see how white we are?

>>382749924

It's funny since Star Trek Online is the least embarrassing title in your top 5

>>382757989
The only games that can have over 1000 hours are shitty online games and autism simulators.
Either way, you're retarded.

>>382757989
I have nearly 1k hours with all STALKER games combined.

>>382757989
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>>382758081
I have to go DOZENS of games deep into my library to find games with less than a hundred hours of play

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>>382749924

>>382749924
How do you even view steam like that?

>>382758418
profile>games

>>382758328
Same, but saying that the reason this board is shit is because people haven't played a game for over 1000 hours is fucking stupid.

>>382757469
i don't think you like games anon

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>>382758503
fug me

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>>382757989
I don't like to git gud, I like to have fun, most of those cs hours i played drunk

if cs:s would had have timer I would probably have 1,5k hours on it but who cares?

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I used to only play console before I built my PC a few months ago forgive me.

>>382757989
Welp, at least it does imply that when it comes to discussions about competitive games most anons don't know shit about it

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r8 my terraira autism

been playing with friends since launch, classes and updates made for a lot of replayability

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The time on Unreal Gold is incorrect, it was left running somehow.

>>382757329
>Risk of Rain
>>382757781
>Dustforce
You guys are cool.

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Damage control, at least 500 hours of TF2 is idling and about 100 hours of CSGO is waiting for people to show up. Fuck this game anyways.

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CSGO is fun

>>382759693
Good taste anon.

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>>382759742
you are like a little tiny baby man

>>382759819
Well I stopped playing around May 2013.

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>>382751419
>>382754697
>>382755113
>>382755873
>>382755886
>>382756014
>>382756150
>>382756345
>>382756472
>>382756683
>>382757010
>>382757158
>>382757324
>>382757330
>>382757781
>>382757854
>>382758040
>>382758404
>>382758771
>>382759742
TF2 seems pretty consistently popular in here. Good taste.

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>>382756312
>He fell for the ARPG meme

>>382760002
tf2 is literally our game.

PARTY VAN COME BACK

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I played a hell of a lot more css than that, but they weren't keeping track in ye olden days. It seems like I must have played more tf2 also. Apparently I've found 3 games on steam I could really get into since like 2007.

>>382760002
>TF2 seems pretty consistently popular in here.
Used to be.

No wonder neo-/v/ is so shit.

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>>382749924
Just Survive was played when it was Battle Royale also

>>382760067
For anyone who is interested, Steam started tracking time played in March 2009. Everyone here probably played tf2 many more hours than displayed.

>>382760506
Literally nobody on this board played before 2009.

>>382760605
youd be surprise

>>382760605
>Literally nobody on this board was born before 2009.
ftfy

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>>382760664
>hoi 4

>>382760079
>500hours
>last played 2013

>>382759754
If I had a program tracking all the cs ive played over the years it would look like that

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I'll post more because TF2/Dota/CS shouldn't count since everyone played that back then

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>>382749924
I'm pretty sure everything in my top 10 except for New Vegas, Deus Ex, and Crusader Kings 2 are from alt-tabbing for days at a time.

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>>382760605

>>382761030
That's your dad's account.

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I fell out of love with gaming for a while, and went back to consoles after my PC took a shit a while back.

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>>382760002
is it too late to get back into tf2? haven't played in years

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Huh...

>>382760707
Its the ultimate time melter

>>382761234
it feels off now, hard to describe

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How's mine?

>>382761234
Don't bother. They killed it in recent updates.

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Filename
Also this is my main account

>>382761349
Balanced.

>>382761371

666 hrs...

All Hail Satan!!

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>>382761234
Not at all, the basic game mechanics are all still the same. Just hop into a pub and shoot people as the class of your choice.

There is a new matchmaking system and menu HUD most people don't like, but it's not as awful as some hype it up to be, get past that and the base game is still fun as fuck.

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>>382761371
This is my old account I have way more hours in Fallout New Vegas but steam doesn't count them when you use Family Share

>>382761346
>>382761346
joined a random server a few days ago and the only bad thing I noticed was that the community is even worse now. everyone was just spamming reddit memes

>>382761169
my guess is that you're a desperate weeb

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>>382760605
Lol.

Posting more because fuck OP

Im addicted to CS:GO
Someone please kill me

>>382761674
Try again.

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>>382761674
Forgot pic :^)

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To be honest I fucking hate TF2, I don't know how its so high up. I normally don't play multiplayer games at all.

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>>382761674
>>382761756
>csgo baby is also a mobile poster

>>382761674
Counter strike is the greatest multiplayer shooter ever made. People are going to be playing it for another decade at least

>>382761756
Pretty weak. The usual multiplayer/crafting/sandbox games and CSGO shit
Normie/10

>>382761674
>>382761756
dumb phoneposter

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>>382761597
None of those are even eastern.

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why is everybody playing worst counter strike when pic related exists?
is it because
>muh streamers?
>muh chance of going pro?

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I want to die desu

>>382761954
Not him but nigga, its 4 am and I'm not booting my rig just to take a screenshot and fit in

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>>382762001
>viccy 2
>soviet assault
>automatically ruined by civ 5
Lol

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>>382761674
>>382761756
>phoneposter
>csgo

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>>382762039
I spent a lot of time roleplaying with the Madoka mods.

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RCT can pretty much be taken off this list since I discovered OpenRCT2 about 7 months ago. and csgo is quickly rising up in ranks since I got into comp.

>>382762001
How many times can you form greater germany before it gets boring?

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>>382762130
shitty moeposter

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two of these games are dead, and I dont even play the another two. rip

>>382762130
...there's a madoka mod for one of those games?

>>382762139
>How many times can Germany destroy Europe before it gets boring?
You'd be surprised.

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r8 or h8

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>>382762249
See ya in the ring for round 4 babyyyy

>>382761839
>>382762049
see
>>382762035

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>>382762139
Couple of times, but I'm no Wehrfag. Most of my time was playing as the U.S., Russia, Japan, Brazil and France.

>>382762167
What's the matter? Literally nothing wrong with moe, MANime belongs in the trash bin

>>382762210
Yeah. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=207117800
I even had some SpongeBob ones to fuck around.

>>382762249
It's ok I've resurrected the byazntine empire at least a hundred times now and every time I look at a real map it's still called istanbull.

>>382761819
Not bad, simple safe picks.

>posters ITT whose top 5 doesn't consist of 100+ hours
you wagecucks disgust me

>>382762357
Make your own mod or go home. It takes some time but it's fun.

Welp, this is embarrassing.

I keep ESO on while I'm AFK, which can be for a few hours or a whole night if I pass out. Underneath that is The Witcher 3.

>>382762394
It hurts me just as much. But at least I got a decent 20-50 hours in a bunch of seperate games, makes me feel better

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I mostly play outside steam.

>>382762394
Someones gotta pay for your tendies you lazy neet nigger

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holy shit i never realized how aids/normie my top 5 was
my account's age is nearing 10 years now though so most of this was accumulated in the first 5 or so, these days i only play a bit of kerbal space program

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fuck

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What a weird list

a) I have no idea why jazzpunk is on there, I must have left it idling or something, or maybe I let my sister play and she idled.

I haven't touched cities skylines in over a year, I haven't played dirt rally in like six months, it's been a while since I played undertale...Man none of these games are games I've touched recently.

FFXIV and Overwatch should probably be on here more than cities and jazzpunk

>>382762498
>Shadowverse
Die

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>>382762423
Even more so, I posted the stats for an overleveled character I made in DaS3

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>This thread
Master race my fucking ass.
Everyone with any of the following games in their top 5 should be rounded up, banned and publicly executed:

>TF2
>Fallout: NV
>Dota
>L4D/L4D2
>CS GO
>Gary's mod
>Killing floor
>Payday2

Or save us the trouble and just DIY.
Steam was a mistake. It's nothing but trash. Valveponies killed the PC community.

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>>382757989
everyone here was either too old or too young for the golden age.

No wonder this place is a shithole. Only shitposters around

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I still haven't beat dark souls 2.
I only played it for the pvp and coop pve.

>>382762498
And what do you play ourside of Steam?

>>382762548
I don't need to rate this, you know how it is. But I accept your excuse

>>382762597
Why are you so autism?

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>>382762597

>>382762576
>63 hours in jazzpunk
how?

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>>382762643
thanks for having mercy on me anon

>>382762597
so what games do you play that you can find a match in consistently?

>>382762596
No need to show off or anything

>>382757989
The last game I had over 1000 hours in was everquest. Getting old and getting a life sucks. I mean, not really, but the time for binge gaming is long gone.

>>382751783
Damn son how did you get that many hours in STALKER? Mods?

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Itty bitty French hips and titties

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>>382762710

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>>382749924

Loved me some APB back in the day. Used to like SMITE a lot but havent played in a year or more.

>>382762695
I'm saying I have no fucking clue, I played it twice. I think maybe my younger sister left it idling

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Addiction killed my interest in other games I hate myself

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>>382762735
I'm not even good at dark souls.

>>382762776
I do two playthroughs a year, mostly vanilla or AMK 1.4 (no arsenal). I tried out all the other SoC mods, but they are garbage.

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Funny thing is i havent touched any of this games in atleast a year.

>>382762664
>Plays any of those games autistically enough to be on their top 5 most played games
>Calls someone else autistic
You're in my prayers, little asspie.

>>382762631
Various things I pirate. I don't like paying for things.

>>382762869
Don't worry I didn't mean it <3

how many posts in this thread don't have skyrim, tf2, counter strike, or league/dota anywhere in their top five?

>>382762597
This.

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>>382749924
just fuck my shit up

What the fuck tf2 used to be great and you all know it. Or maybe you don't and you're underage b&.

>>382762930
Find me one post that has League in it brother
but yeah it happens to most of us. I only have TF2 in mine and I don't even like it

>>382763003
How the hell can you have so many hours on ark?

>>382762913
>little
>kid
>child
>son
Don't take this personnelly, my immature fellow *unsheathes fedora*

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>>382762930
oh my boy ronald already has it covered
>>382762597


Thinking those games are all pc had is what kept me away from it so long

>>382762597
>Killing Floor is bad
>New Vegas is bad
>L4D is bad
>TF2 I understand but it used to be absolute god-tier which is when most people played it

Please tell us what you consider to be good.

>>382762930
These.
>>382750904
>>382754706
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>>382759532

>>382763067
I like dinosaurs and being miserable and making others miserable.

>>382762930
My top 5 doesn't, my top 10 doesn't and I'm pretty sure my top 20 doesn't either, but I don't post it because me and my IRL friends compared our top 10 lists recently and it'd be fairly easy to recognize it, and I'm ashamed of all of you,.I don't want my friends to know I talk to any of these TF2 playing losers.

>>382762597
New Vegas? Nigger fuck you

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>>382763112
not him but literally anything else

truly the normiest of pc gaming. Might as well just call yourself Steampunks or some shit, alongside nintentoddlers sonybros and xbros

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>>382751108
>Implying you havent just gotten good after playing every other game in the series.
How do people keep forgetting this?

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>>382757989
Ive been a console player for 25 years. This is my first year without a 6 year old pre built dell to game on.

So stop being a faggot.

>>382762930
26

>>382763158
But that would mean they do to, so they couldn't say anything. Plus who gives a shit

>>382763027
No, it was shit and the people that played it were always annoying.

>>382763239
That's not an answer. Give me your top 5 favorites.

>>382763131
I forgot to mention Fallout and Darksouls in my list because I wasn't thinking when I posted.

Accuse me of moving goalposts, but that invalidates a lot of what you pointed out

>>382763158
that's good I guess

>>382762597
man 2011 sure did wedge itself good and deep in your anus, huh

>>382763239
And you're the one calling us autistic?

>>382762597
>Good games are bad
Fucking console babbys dont even have a game that can be played over 200 hours

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>>382762597
TF2 is the single best multiplayer game in existence and anyone who disagrees is a homo.

That makes you a homo, McFaggot.

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I'm a casual compared to some of my steam friends. Also 5-digit steam.

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Im glad Minecraft doesnt track time played because im sure i've spent 5000 hours in that game

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muh gameplay mechanics

>>382763082
There's a reason why you get called all of those on a regular basis, little aspie.

>>382763354
Elite Dangerous
Guilty Gear Xrd
Dirt Rally
Alien Isolation
Ori and the Blind Forest

>>382763408
>team fortress classic is on steam
>and it's 99 cents
Oh shit I'm about to have some fun.

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This is going to be fun.

>>382763551
4/5, good shit but you need to understand that the games listed are all incredibly consistent with fantastic replay value. That's why a lot of people have so many hours invested in them.
You're not going to spend 1000+ hours in fucking Alien Isolation.

>>382762863
German is such a disgusting language

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anyone 10k+ hours?

>>382763378
No that was someone else. I'm just pointing out that steamguys all like and play the same six games, the same way xbox guys all like battlefront, forza and dragon age, sony kids all like uncharted, jax, and whatever the flavor of the month jrpg is, and nintendo peeps only talk about zelda mario and pokemon


It's just so...typical.

>>382763112
You do realize there's literal THOUSANDS of games on steam alone? Asking that question alone, rhethoric or not, shows how far down the path of the valvefag you are.

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kind of cute, actually

>>382763493
I hope you only bought the base game and pirated the DLC.

>>382763367
It only invalidates your list then.

>>382763745
>playing tfc post-2009

with who?

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>all these posts with tf2 as #1
all that idling really adds up

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>>382763694
I guess, I just don't have any interest in them, and finding people to talk to is a pain because that handful is all they play. I'm done whining about it, I just feel validated by this thread, I thought it was just my imagination.

>>382763773
Single player games usually don't take 100+ hours to play through. This is only the top 5 games and that usually means 1. multiplayer and 2. something your friends want to play also. It's no surprise that the popular games feature often.

>>382763745
>10k+ hours
That means that if you started the game up on January 1st, 2016 without exiting and left the game on May 10th, 2017 you still wouldn't reach this time by a few hours

>>382763834
ronald mcdonald's list was better than mine anyway

>>382763780
>if your most played games on steam are the games you got steam for in the first place then you're autistic
you're autistic

>>382763664
You are a living meme.

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I regret nothing.

>>382763773
Dog, its just 5 games. Its not their entire library.

>>382763818
I dont object to how Paradox charges for DLC, but I dont buy them because they're super expensive for the one or two things Im interested in

If they broke it down even more and had, say, conditierri or whatever lending your armies out as mercenaries, I'd buy it for a dollar, but as part of a $10 DLC 90% of which I wont use, nah

>>382749924
>>inb4 Star Trek online, what a nerd XD
>My sperg cousin played it, so thats why I posted 6 so ignore that
What's wrong with that? That sounds cute.

>>382763773
Man your list of game people like is completely whack.

>>382763896
I understand what you mean and you're probably right. The average Steam user probably does exclusively only play those games. But If I had to give my favorites it'd be
>Kerbal Space Program
>Witcher 3
>Dying Light co-op
>Everything from Zachtronics, like Shenzhen I/O and Spacechem
>Nuclear Throne
>New Vegas with mods
..and yet none of them are anywhere near my most played.

>>382763985
>all these /v/irgins with hundreds of hours in Mountain Blade

What IS IT about that game?

>>382763773
A more interesting list would have been games 5-10 or 11-15.

>>382764120
Have you played it? Its fun. Replayable too.

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>>382749924

>>382764120
I just started playing MnB and it's damn fun. I also regret not having played it earlier.

>>382763985
>taste
whats to regret?

>>382764120
I was like you once... hohoho..

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>>382764163

>>382762793
>wakfu
Ma nig.

>>382763965
>All these 4 first person shooters, 3 of them co-op based got called shit by someone
>SURELY THIS PERSON DOES NOT ENJOY ANY VIDEOGAMES WHATSOEVER
Stupid fucking valvefag. Go buy some shitty cards, you retarded cancer.

>>382756124
4/10

good list, for the top 4 that was a straight 8/10 but call of shit and not any game above 1000 really pulls it down.to 4/10

>>382762596
>Elder scrolls online
So close.

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>>382763864
there are a few servers that still fill up, plus a couple privates on select evenings for matches.

>>382763958
This friend is only 20. He's on a lot and actually playing most of it.

>>382764367
Are wakfu autists the new sonic autists

That shit is inexcusibly aimed at little kids

>>382763664
>Borderlands
Ok I liked those games aswel and they are fun with friends
>Battleborn
Nevermind KYS

>>382764120
It's fun.

>>382764420
>all these games are known for replay value and are always good to jump into and have countless hours of fun when you've run out of other, more content-dense and better games to play, hence the hundreds if not thousands of hours invested in said games
>LOL FUCKING VALVEFAG GET CANCER

You're actually fucking retarded.

>>382764526
Video games are aimed at kids.

>>382764526
>new
WHERE have you BEEN

>>382764562
If it makes you feel better, 128 of those Battleborn hours were within the first month and a half of the game's release.

>>382764425
I can't tell if this is bait
>you haven't wasted more than 1000 hours in any game, so I'll judge your taste in games based off this unrelated factor which is ridiculous anyway
>If you play anything from this series, you're a bad person

>>382764115
>SFV #1
>No other fighter on sight
This may actually be more disgusting than having a Source game on #1. Dota in second place is the shit berry on the shit cake.

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>>382749924
dont h8

>>382764618
>Implying
You do know most of the money comes from people between 20-30

>>382764779
Some children don't grow up.

>>382764838
If it wasn't for the best souls game, I'd ignore you

>>382764741
If you practice more, you won't get your ass beat, I promise. You just have to go into the game with the intent to actually get better.

>>382764609
>all these games are known for replay value and are always good to jump into
Wrong. Get some taste, valvefag.

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I'm a click click man myself

>>382764887
Eh, a lot of weeb games have sexual themes I'd say those really arent for kids. Then you have the normie crowd who buy uncharted fifa Battlefield and skyrim and maybe a random other game.

>>382765047
Please enlighten my shitty plebian tastes and tell me what games I should enjoy more then.

>>382765045
>Exclusively plays SFV
>Thinks he's hot shit
Cute.

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>>382749924
end my life

>>382765048
>>382764229
You guys are alright. Don't log into steam tomorrow.

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>>382749924

>>382765047
>WRONG! LEL
What an argument, it has been proven ONES AGAIN that steam haters have no brain>>382765048

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>>382749924

Was literally a meth addict for half of these.

>>382762597
edgy

>>382765216
What's up with tomorrow

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see

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Don't bully.

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im gay

>>382765356
I'm starting to see a pattern. All these screenshots look generally the same.

>>382765447
That's why these games are always on top played on steam charts. /v/ is mainstream as fuck.

>>382765447
>Free games and games that go on sale often
What a suprise

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>>382765447
>Most popular games on Steam are often the most played ones among the userbase

Who would have thought?

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>tfw WoW easily dwarfs my DotA playtime
>have not played MW2 in 7 years

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The only thing I regret on this list is DOTA.

>>382765142
Never said that. I'm pretty trash, but I'm working on it. You should keep going, too.

>>382764120
Mods nigga

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Im actually embarassed how much time I've spent on roguelikes

>>382765970
Don't be. Video games are fun.

>>382760002
>Modern TF2
>Good taste

Good joke. I make sure to block every TF2 shitter on Steam.

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Old school time played. I wish I could show my old magician but he's long gone.

>>382765970
Don't be. Only one of those is an actual roguelike.

>>382766153
I'm not saying TF2 is really any good but you're probably actually autistic if you do that

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Am I a normie?

>>382766439
Yes.

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>>382766218
>108 days
i wish i remember my /played on my cleric, i think it was over 1000 days.

>>382766582
You may have spent a hell of a lot more time in the bazaar than I did. I never had the patience to leave my computer running. I was also chronically poor.

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This list is so uncharacteristic that there isn't anything to judge.