Does this mean MCH is fine http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lod

It means SE has no fucking idea what they're doing, but I guess we already knew that.

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>Bard got buffed before MCH

You guys just keep getting cucked more and more

>NIN buffed
why? Literally the strongest DPS already, holy shit.
They might pull ahead of MNK now in raw DPS.
Then they leave SCH/MNK/MCH/DRG as they are. The fuck are they doing?

>>382749656
It's not actually buffed.

It used to be Physical damage but it's now been changed to magic so it can't scale off of NIN's poisons or the slashing resistance down debuff.

>>382748520
They should honestly lower stablizer's cd to 60 sec and replace the shitty flamethrower with the PVP aoe stun that overheat

>>382750050
Pretty sure the poison works on magic now, but you're right about the slashing, I guess.

>>382750050
>>382750459
What poison? They took that shit away.

>>382750642
It's a passive now so shitters don't forget it.

>Will not nerf sam because "they dont bring as much utility as DRG
>MCH and DRG will stay shit
>Vit giving damage somehow creates HP inflation
>Increase enmity gen so tanks spend even less time in tank stance

Another round of SE has no fucking clue what they are doing

>>382748520
>MCH is fine
They have less going on than 3.0 MCH.
You'd have to have never played MCH or be retarded to think they're in a better place than they were before.

>>382749656
>Buffed
Because of how shitty SE is at actually relaying information, I don't blame you for thinking this is a buff, but it's actually a nerf.

>>382752421
>Sam doesn't bring utility
>Well besides the only useful utility that all melees get
>Also they deal so much more damage than the next strongest do
>But it's okay because they don't have utility
>Well besides the great utility they get from role skills
> Lol what were we talking about?
I'm not an experienced programmer but it baffles me at how stupidly inept SE is at balance.

>>382750459
>Poison works on magic
It doesn't now, that's for damn sure. NIN traits now only apply to physical attacks.

>>382748704
SE has officially adopted the Blizzard Balance Initiative.

>>382754924
>Well besides the great utility they get from role skills
How do role skills count toward job utility when every single job under that role has access to the same skills?
The only utility SAMs have is Slashing down debuff which isn't even unique to them.
And they really don't deal that much more damage than the next strongest, stop playing with shitters.

inb4 butthurt mod 404's the thread

To everyone salty about the lack of serious balance changes in this patch: wait for 4.05 SE probably didn't have time to do more than the number and flag changes in this patch. The deeper balance tweaks will come in a few weeks. So please understand that you have to wait two weeks or so before you have any hope that the job you like most will stop being shit. Thank you for your patience.

>>382756365
>How do job skills count toward utility
Because they provide it you fucking mongoloid. They get damage reduction and tp restoration on top of doing the most damage in the game. Please ask me again why role utility matters.

So, how is Omega?
>>382756943
Pretty sure they delete threads only during eu evening hours, no?

Dev has a seperate post. All major class changes are going to happen with the savage difficulty patch in 2 weeks.

Tanks got threat boosts cause they need it now to function in the raid. Can't let them use shirk now can we?

DRG is fucked/cucked/shedded/whatever cause they "provide great group damage utility." You should love SAM though, best dps cause reasons.

Everyone else is subject to change when savage hits. Hold onto your ass and pray. In reality you'll be disapointed unless your SAM/RDM. Please understand.

>>382757775
RDM aggro is ridiculous.

>>382757507
Yeah it's like 7pm to 2am BST, when the threads start disappearing

>>382748520
>Omega gear is 320

So what the fuck was the point of grinding out lakshmi ex if the fucking trinkets are the same ilvl?

>>382757616
>Genta
>not Genji

Why tho?

>>382757849
I'm finally getting my Samurai armor?
Fuck yes.

>>382757849
So savage ilvl is around 340 and tomestone sits around 330 before upgrades?

>>382757950
So you can focus on getting the left side tokens from raid now? One piece of loot per week after all.

>>382757775
I like how Yoshida defended SAM's philosophy and pretty much confirmed that DRG doing worst melee dps is how it should be, and SAM doing best dps is how it should be.

Sucks to be a dragoon, meanwhile it's great to be a samurai.

>>382758016
yep

>>382757340
Except they don't you dick breathing faggot. The utility they're talking about is raid damage utility, like trick attack or embolden, both which are flat % buffs in damage and unique to jobs.

Invigorate and second wind matter literally fuck all. Lowering SAM's dps would make it completely useless.

>>382757950
Because some of the Lakshmi accessories don't have good stats for your job?
Is this your first expansion/raid tier or what?

>>382757950
Need that second ring brah

>>382758016
That pic clearly says 320.

>>382757950
Can you source omega gear being 320? I thought new tomestone gear was 320.

>>382758114
>That pic clearly says 320.
That's Omega Normal gear you idiot.

>>382758114
>That pic clearly says 320
That pic is also the normal gear.

>>382757849
Damn, now I want to level sam just to get proper sam armor
;_;

>>382758014
Right's clearly Catastrophe, but is left supposed to be Necrophobe or something?

>>382757930
Hit Lucid Dreaming early. Cuts your threat in half and it will be up again by the time your mana is low enough to need it.

Also have can take Diversion for reducing threat.

Then tools are there and they work very well if you use them properly. It's not like RDM is oGCD flooded either. They have plenty of oppertunity to use those skills.

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>Will beat Omega normal in one night
>Will have to wait another 2 weeks for more content

>>382758174
>throwing a fit over that
Rethink your life decisions.

Is the new tome gear coming this patch?

>>382758192
Tomestone gear is going to be higher ilvl than actual raiding gear? That's stupid.

>>382758293
>throwing a fit over that
Rethink your life decisions.

>>382758343
2 weeks

>>382748704
they said actual job adjustments will be coming in 4.05 (Savage raid) while 4.01 is just going to have 'immediate necessities' like tanks being able to hold aggro and troubadour working like it should

>>382758292
Have to roll against 7 other people. And then there's the rare x2 tokens as well.

>>382748520
No they already said further changes are coming when savage releases.

>>382758392
>throwing a fit over that
Rethink your life decisions.

>>382758343
2 weeks

this patch in NM Omega.

>>382758368
>Normal
>Easy mode raid for shitters who want to see the story
>Should give better gear than the weekly capped currency

>>382758368
The actual raiding gear is from Savage, and it's ilvl 340, though.

>Omega Story
>Railings

>Omega Savage
>No railings

They really want to force healers to use Rescue.

>>382758449
>throwing a fit over that
Rethink your life decisions.

Bosses:
Alte Roite
Halicarnassus
Catastrophe
Exdeath

>>382758269
I mean what else are you going to take?

>Break: Pointless
>Drain: Also pointless
>Swiftcast: Pointless for RDM
>Surecast: LOL
>Erase: not my job

Addle, Diversion, Lucid Dreaming, Mana Shift and Apotacatastasis.

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>>382748520
That mount. I must have it. I take it it will drop from omega?

If it was WoW, we would already have tactics and video guides for the new raid bosses
Just try to defend xiv lazy community

>>382758032
Yep. I'm DRG and it sucks. I'd be fine with it if we provided good group utility. We don't in anyway. BL is on a long ass CD and crits are RNG. Nor does anyone have the crit raiting to make it good atm. Dragon sight is just retarted. Piece debuff got nerfed and it lowered our overall damage despite potency buffs. More complex rotation with very punishing potency loss if you fuck something up.

Meanwhile SAM is pretty much a noob friendly class when compaired to any of the other melee rotations and top dps. You only problem for missing a pistonal is 60 potency loss and maybe some kenki slower generation. Kenki doesn't even degrade so it doesn't matter.

>>382758603
Swiftcast has it uses though, you must be a shitter if you think otherwise just because you can dualcast.

>>382758574
Picture from last thread must be Halicarnassus then since I didn't even think that since that was already a mob name in XIV before. Exdeath better be balls to the wall though.

>>382758269
I dunno. I don't play RDM but i can see how all the tanks lose aggro with a RDM friend.
The initial aggro burst is disgusting.

https://mega.nz/#!GIsgyQjA!XtWXW4JW3WYaXnkccTxrV_DisVDKb_aUvb_VMoS0zWk

Music

>>382758686
Name them, because swiftcasting doesn't get you dualcast so you can't swiftcast veraero->verthunder for easy mana.

Explain it to me like i'm retarded, how does getting gear work with omega?

>>382758368
This is all just a small mind game until the savage hits in two weeks. Need to start thinking about what to sacrifice for the first week of the savage.

Not entirely sure how it will go this time around, like will everyone just save their tomes for 4 weeks just to get the tomestone weapon and try to beat the savage with the normal token and verify gear.

>>382758696
>I didn't even think that since that was already a mob name in XIV before.
The patch notes say that some enemies got renamed.

>>382758574
I just hope the rest of the raid tier isn't full on nostalgia-catering as well.

>>382758742
Bosses drop tokens, you roll them and trade em in for gear. Most of the stuff you can't get until week 2/4

>>382758032

I don't get that philosophy to begin with and why would they say that and then have NIN with the best debuff in the game maintain 2nd highest levels of damage with the most forgiving class UI buff of all dps. If a DRG needs a good ranged to do good dps, it's common sense that two players combined should do more damage than a single player even if they're playing a specialized "selfish" role. Selfish roles are always going to be balanced like shit, either they're not worth it or they're current SAM.

>>382758801
Do you not understand what game this is?

I'm excited for the new crafting stuff, almost finished getting all DoL/DoH to 70.

Will we need to buy books this time around?

>>382758742
Just like alexander.

>>382758873
>almost finished getting all DoL/DoH to 70.
FUCKING HOW?

Ieveld 4 and used all my leves

Did they buff AST?

>>382758483
>weekly capped currency
Currency can be acquired by doing fucking dungeons. Sure normal mode raiding is not difficult but it's not a fucking dungeon.

>>382758801
It'll definitely be. Neo Exdeath in the 2nd raid, then finally actually Omega.

>>382758574
>look up Alte Roite on youtube
>the first thing it does is delete a party member
?????????

Where the fuck are the SCH and WHM buffs?
Also those changes for the paladin are nowhere near enough for it to be fun.

>>382758993
Good bye sch

>>382758801
>>382758959
Gilgamesh will definitely make another appearance as well.

>>382758719
Use diversion on pull and hit lucid dreaming early if looks like you're going to pull off. Halfing your thread is huge early on. The tools are there. Use them properly.

One of the problems is tanks not using shrirk on a swap. It gives the active tank 25% more threat. The entire idea it to provke and shirk on every swap. Combired with dps threat reduction skills there shouldn't be a problem.

Players are just lazy idiots who don't want to manage threat.

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>>382757775
I don't think RDM is in any immediate danger honestly they put out modest to good damage. BLM while the set up is a little more difficult they put out exceptional damage. SMN is the most punishing caster to play right now fuck up that Atherflow timing and there goes about 30 Percent of your damage because you couldn't get it out in time.

The Caster DPS area are pretty balanced from the sims I've seen honestly but some kinks need to be ironed out.

>>382759000
Paladin is actually pretty fun. Especially offtanking feels pretty amazing now.

>>382758931

I ended up getting miner/botanist to 70 during those 2 days of Raubahn hell, I used leves to level until 65 for crafters and then made collectables.

>>382758681
I like how people love to remark how easy and simple SAM is when literally every job is easy and simple. Is this some sort of selective criticism?

I mean seriously, if you are gonna go on the "it's braindead" rabbit hole then you might as well toss the entire game down it too, and you know it.

Anyone has the full opening for rdm?

I have no intention to raid. Can i still have fun?

>Alte Roite

You heard it here first, tomorrow you'll be seeing shit like "We get to fight the Alt Right!"

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I need more fucking crit

>>382759091
We will see more aggro mechanics now.

>>382758959
>Omega

Nah man, Enuo.

>>382759076
That too. Hell, they might make Gilgamesh the final boss of the 2nd tier and then have Neo Exdeath be a surprise final boss of the last tier with Omega taking the Cruise Chaser/Phoenix spot.

>>382758938
They're also introducing the tomestone and the gear acquired by it when Savage, where higher ilvl gear is available, comes out.
It's also capped, so you won't be farming the gear in a day.
How this confuses you when they've used the exact same concept many times before is beyond me.

>>382759076
>Ends up appearing as an easter-egg if you clear the Savage version of the fight in an unorthodox/harder way

>>382759160
collectables gives you shit exp and cost gil

they're not worth it

>>382759165
SAM isn't punished for mistakes

>>382758931
It's not that hard 60-70. IF you have soem ok gear and meld some CP+food+alch tea you can just shit out collectables once your levs are all used.

Not to mention HQ everything really helps with the levs. If you came into SB with 99 allowances and used them right away I can see people being almost done with all crafters.

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>>382754462
...

>>382759129
JACK SPICER

>>382759076
Did someone say Lightning?.

>>382759296
I used 100 with 3 hq items leves and just got 4 to 70

I'm one of the exp-huffing shitters that's been queuing for Frontlines who doesn't give a damn about PvP or have any expectation of winning. If they nerf the exp for a loss(but not enough that it's no longer the quickest way to level), I'm going to end up giving even less of a damn and will probably switch from going through the motions of the match to aiming to lose as quickly as possible. It's going to be a game of "auto-run until I die, respawn, repeat".

>>382759165
>literally every job is easy and simple.

you obviously haven't played the other classes. WoW dps is easy and simple. FFXIV dps are not. It's only the 2 new dps that have been steamlined with SB for eaiser play.

Please stop being a SAM shitter defeding their eaiser to play class.

>>382759271

I gathered and crafted everything needed myself. It was slow, sure. But when a collectable turned in for 300k and you got 400k exp for crafting the mats needed for it with manuals it didn't seem so bad.

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>>382759076
>Gilgamesh in Omega raid is a literal 2d sprite running around and speaks using dialog boxes

>yfw Krile joins you and gets a splinter at the end

>>382759272
>Not punished for mistakes
>If you fuck up the 35 rule at any point you literally lose 200 dps.

>>382759428
Fuck off.

>>382759254
>It's also capped, so you won't be farming the gear in a day.
Still doesn't change the fact that it's gear you acquire simply by running dungeons. Running fucking kugane castle can't possibly be more difficult than doing normal omega.

It might take more time but you are getting better gear for easier content which is stupid.

>How this confuses you when they've used the exact same concept many times before is beyond me.
I see you are incapable of having a normal conversation without attempting to start your usual monkey shit flinging contest.

>>382759245
Yeah not likely. The devs aren't that clever. They had to boost tank threat cause people won't use the current tools. Once we hit the next tier of omega threat management will be non-existant. It's how it always goes.

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>>382759129
>SMN is the most punishing caster
*nods emphatically*

>raised
>lose all Aetherflow/trail/baha-aether
>no AF
>no lucid
>might as well jump off the side and commit sudoku

>>382759428
This desu.

>>382759540
>Running fucking kugane castle can't possibly be more difficult than doing normal omega.
Sure it can.

>>382759431
Stay mad that I'll be doing more than 600 dps more than you for the rest of the expansion faggot.

>>382759596
Fuck off.

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>>382759639
What are you going to do about it, nerd?

>>382759171
what is there to open?


do their proc based rotation, weave in acceleration for guaranteed ready proc, weave in fleche and contre sixte when it's off cooldown, use melee combo (apparently use embolden after the first hit) into verholy/flare and repeat.

The only thing I'm not sure on is if you should get 80/80 and then use manafication on your second melee burst or use it asap at your first 40/40

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So is housing opening in two hours from now or not?

>>382759428

You now get less exp the shorter the game is.

>>382759431
Is your only argument taking shit out of your ass and making empty assumptions about me? I played BLM and DRG pretty extensively and other jobs to a lesser extent.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure you can't even have SAM as your first job. You need something 50 at the very least.

>>382759171
Swift+stone
This is your opening, faggot

>>382759594

>my dps is really bad when I die

SMN shitters in a nutshell.

>>382759704
3 months
4.1

>>382759530
>DRG
>if you drop BoTD at any point you lose 2 rotations skills, an off GCD and any eye stacks you had going towards LotD.

Oh noes! the SAM had a hiccup. Let me know when they degrade on kenki or they lose 90-100 potency on positionals.

>>382759784
Nice, i need to make some shekels

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>>382759379
YES IT IS I THE MAGNIFICENT BOY GENIUS JAKKU SPIZAR.

>>382759431
SAM is hard to play though, it's like if MNK had sex with NIN and then dropped acid. It's even worse because I can't remember the names of all the weeb abilities, so reading a guide is utterly worthless to me

Ching chong sushi mong into ting tang walawala bing bang into nanking butthole kyaaaa... Jesus christ, I literally can't even.

>>382759775
I see you're enjoying Samurai

>>382759730

>buy arr
>buy stormblood
>buy story and level skip
>swap from my current job to samurai without ever having cast an ability
>proceed to shit up DF for the next 2 years

>>382759730
Define 'pretty extensively' - the SAM first job thing was probably meaning at max, since that's when your abilities are set and you're actually playing the job as designed. Did you get BLM and DRG to max? And if so, when?

>>382759784
3 months for even more balmung vermin to infest your server please look forward to it

>>382759784
4.1 is going live in 2 hours tho anon

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>>382759882
4.01 is

>>382759882
thats 4.01 anon

stupid

>>382759775
Aetherflow is extremely unforgiving of a mechanic, I'm surprised they made Enochian so piss easy and left Aetherflow the way it is.

>>382759730
You are making assumptions about the other classes. And lol no you haven't play BLM and DRG if you are saying they are easy. SAM shitter trying to damage control is hilarious.

>>382759784

I don't get why they are making us wait so long, it is just going to make it more of a pain in the ass for people like me trying to get mansions.

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>>382759827
>Salty DRGfag
>DRGs are so salty they're infesting from reddit.

Either that or false flagging the SAM hate, you're pathetic no matter what fampai.

>>382758742
It's going to be identical to Alexander. Each section will have a few macguffins that drop when you clear, and you're allowed to win a roll on one macguffin per section each week. These macguffins are specific to a gear slot, such as lenses for a head equip. You then trade in the macguffins for the gear you desire. Different slots require more of their macguffin, similar to the way normal gear costs more for the body/legs compared to the heads/hands/feet(in this case, you need four body tokens to buy a body piece). However, since the sections will do something like Area 1=hand/feet, Area 2=head/hand/feet, Area 3=legs/head, Area 4=body/legs, you won't be able to get the body or legs any quicker than four weeks from now.

>>382759850
>SAM
>hard

It barely even has positioning and you have crazy mobility options. The only thing hard about it is getting optimal weaving with the instant combo finisher cd and the convert to kenki cd.

>>382759850
What does that even mean? Also just cause the names are weeb as fuck means nothing when you're just looking for the icon itself

>>382759619
Yeah that's fine. It will be AST all over again. We'll just bitch and bitch and bitch until they buff us to OP.

history repeats.

>>382759827
>they lose 90-100 potency on positionals
Samurai don't have increased damage on doing positionals.

>>382759979
BLM is retard simple now though. It plays almost exactly like ARR BLM at this point, just with fire 4.

>>382760007
Hahahaha what the fuck

>>382760007
Jesus fuck tree form and everything. They better not fuck up this fight.

>>382759882
4.01
and its 40 minutes

>>382760047
Losing kenki is the same as losing potency you retard.

What is Shinten?

>>382760027
I literally have autism, the names are confusing and frustrating and make it impossible to learn the job.

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>>382760046

>>382759961

Say whats difficult about it. If you say because you might miss Fester on your two 30s dots and/or miss a Bane, then please neck yourself and uninstall.

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>>382757849
>Drg Getting shitty awful samurai Eastern "Armor"
REEEEEEEEEEEE
DRAGOONS ARE NOT SAMURAI'S WE JUMP INTO THE AIR AND FUCK YOU WHAT ARE YOU DOING SE.

>>382758343
New tomes like Scrips were capped? Any idea what level that set will be?

Sounds like these 320 armor sets are easy to get. Will there be a weekly reward cap on these for awhile too?

omega is pretty much just another themepark raid just 8man. can't say I'm too enthused about this honestly

>>382760007
Phase 2 I guess?

>>382760004
Yes. I'm mad. I'm salty. I have to play the piano while SAM facerolls. Gonna bitch abuot it. Might take some years but karma will come around. Just look at PLD and Wars. The cuckshed rotates constantly.

>>382760009
for some reason they thought it necessary to use the same parts list (Bolt/Lens/Spring/Chain/Pedal/Crank/Shaft) too.

Fun.

>>382758732
I expected Stormblood soundtrack and I got...I don't even know what the fuck this is

Hour and 35 minutes
10 gmt

>>382748520
This means that scholar is shit and will remain shit for the rest of this raid tier, thanks Yoshi P

>>382760136
or not. fuck squeenix for publishing the times in gmt when no one's using it at the moment

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>>382760203
I might miss Fester or my two 30s dots and/or miss a Bane.

Any idea where we get that magitek mount that was in the notes?

>>382759865
I raided both coil and alexander. Though coil I only really started from t9 up since I arrived a bit late.

>Did you get BLM and DRG to max?
Is this even a serious question? Do you think I have like 2 hours of played time or something? Holy shit.

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>tfw when mch's supposed support abilities is not much more than a sub 1% worth of party damage increase uptime when brd gets a whole drawer of stuff with 3% party buffs up nearly all the time
>tfw when I'm running out of tp for aoe'ing and a sam that isn't has to give me goad to do even less damage than them
>tfw when my turret has to kill itself for 30 seconds to do what a sam could do in a gcd

I knew this was going to happen the second I read Turret Overload tooltip a month ago. I'd have pulled the trigger by now but I don't think it'll do enough damage to kill me.

>>382760203
I think the point is that it's uncharacteristically punishing where every other DPS is pretty forgiving.

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>>382760007
is that ? No fucking way.

Holy fuck I'am not ready for the fucking void fuck you Exdeath you crazy son a a fuck..

>>382760150
>Losing kenki is the same as losing potency you retard.
>sam stacks skillspeed
>generates constantly
>kenki doesn't degrade so they always have it when a boss goes untargeable for big attack or RP.

You lose nothing.

is omega going to be 8 player or 24? I miss Void Ark, Wiping shitty and Dumb scathe.

>>382760136
Is not 1:40?.

>>382760338
>hey what does MCH need
>Uh, Tornado Kick
>and Dissipation!
>perfect, let's put it all in one skill

>>382760206
Sheeeit what set is that? it's awesome

>>382759979
>And lol no you haven't play BLM and DRG if you are saying they are easy
I'm sorry you must be bad if you think BLM and DRG are hard to play. They are on the harder side compared some of the shit in this game but that is not saying much.

>>382760338
>I'd have pulled the trigger by now but I don't think it'll do enough damage to kill me.
Thanks for the laugh anon

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>>382760164

>>382760342
>Lazy fuck Yoshida stole another boss from the previous game

>>382760150
Hagakure is on a 40 second cooldown.
Kenki is a literal non-issue, even if you miss positionals.

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Tanks 320 is a fucking garbage. Not a single DH on gear. Only cheast looks decent, head and feet ok, rest just shit. Thanks youshi, fuck u.

>>382760240
Why don't you complain about NIN then you stupid faggot. They do more damage than you AND has utility.

Also

>cuckshed

Not even slightly NIN has been meta and op as fuck for the longest, never been in the cuckshed. SE doesn't nerf japanese classes, if you ever played XI you'd realize this, not to mention Yoshi flat out said he feels this is the way things should be.

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>recycling models from Wii games now

>>382760393
Omega is 8 man. Return to Ivalice is the 24 man.

>>382760393
Jesus fuck how many people new to the game are in these threads?

>>382760464
Tanks won't get DH on gear ever, they said as much

>>382760395
It is. EU notes just wrote the time in gmt first and my brain autotranslates that to my own local time without remembering daylight saving time

>>382760349
>Stackingskillspeed

Now I know you're retarded.

>>382760464
They said before the expansion was even out that Direct Hit would only be on DPS gear, retard.

>>382760464
Tankbab tears are delicious

>Still haven't buffed Devotion
>Still haven't buffed ifrits damage buff

Foreverially cucked

>>382760464
Tanks will not get DH on any pieces.

Enjoy your tenacity.

>>382760464
Tanks don't get DH on anything dipshit its a DPS gearonly stat

>>382760456
>>382760349
Not that guy and I won't take part in SAM hard vs easy discussion you people are having, but you do lose kenki from not doing positionals and kenki converts directly into damage which means you do lose damage.

Take of that what you will, but saying you don't lose damage when you are not building as much kenki as you should is a bit stupid.

>>382758738
You can raise dualcast raise then swiftcast raise.

>>382760418
SAM damage control is amazing. You don't hear any of the old class mains say this shit. Only flavor of the xpac SAM's deperatly trying to move the goal posts.

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>>382760409
Valerian. It came from the 3.0 level 60 dungeons, and the designs were based on Tactics Ogre jobs.

That being said, the level 62 store bought gear is dyeable Valerian gear.

>>382760521
>I will now stop and whine about new people

>>382760564
>he hasn't checked logs.

Use abilites faster = more kenki = more kenki skill usage. You might want to do some basic fucking research.

>>382760663
Dragoons get the best gear. Rune Fencer set is sweet.

>>382748640
>weeb consumers know better than the masterrace devs
What did he mean by this?

>>382760521
There must have been a lot of people who probably started playing at the end of HW so they would be max level in time for SB. I see so many people not knowing basic shit that has happened before or understand something they should understand in these threads but they are all max level. Could also be people who bought potions.

>>382760651
>Constant buzzwords
>Goal post
>Flavor of the xpac
>Damage control

Your vocabulary leads me to believe you are a false flagging nigger. Who will probably continuing shitposting about SAM and DRG for the next few weeks.

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>>382760651
not him but I have been playing blm since 2.0

it's easy as fuck and even easier now

>>382760648
That's way longer than regular spell => dualcast raise => regular spell => dualcast raise

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>>382760521
>shill Stormblood on /v/
>Stormblood on honey buns
>Stormblood on Hardees
>nonstop shilling in wowg
>surprised when there's new people coming to the game

Was there AF2 from scrips on crafters enough to craft ironworks? Don't want to meld shit yet if the non meldable gear is as good to do 70 3*

>>382760349
>generates constantly
>kenki doesn't degrade so they always have it when a boss goes untargeable for big attack or RP.
WOOOOOOW all casters get a hold of an excess, non-degrading, self-generating resource (MP) when the boss goes untargetable, how fucking OP!!?!?!?

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Who is this and why does it have a tea cup.

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At least acc is better. Probably most optimal shit will be 2 acc tickens and 2 chest tokens. But droping 270 is a bitch deal so 2 head 2 chest.

>>382760816
>there's Mrs Freshley's stuff in the vending machine at work
>no XIV adverts

well thanks

Loving RDM.
What Materia do I invest in. Spell speed?

>>382760867
Halicarnassus

>>382760203
>>382760273
You shouldn't have Bane in your slots, its a dps loss unless you hit 7 enemies, SEVEN ENEMIES.

>>382760867
FemEx-death

>>382760943
Why did they killed bane so hard?

Will warrior finally be fixed in 4.05?

>>382760867
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Halicarnassus_(Final_Fantasy_V)

Omega is one big FF V homage.

>>382760824
no, you lost a lot of stats and CP by wearing it

>>382760931
>spell speed
What fucking spell are you casting that needs to be faster? The spells you already cast have low cast times and you instacast every other spell. Just do direct hit > crit > det and throw spell speed in the dumpster.

>>382760931
Direct Shit > Critical > Determination.

>>382760651
The truth is MMOs as a whole have a lower skill requirement. You know that and XIV is no different. You can try to call me new all you want but I have played several classes at 50 and 60 and I don't play without ACT overlay on so I know how good I'm doing with my jobs.

Everything is just simple. Samurai is simple, dragoon is simple, black mage is simple, ninja is simple, so on. Sure among themselves some are harder than others but again, that's not saying much when they are all just overall braindead.

If you wanted execution difficulty you wouldn't be playing an mmo.

>>382760521
Let's be honest here, Omega is same nostalgia bait as crystal tower

>>382760931
definitely not spell speed

>>382760931
Crit/Direct hit before anything else

Spell Speed doesn't seem as important as it would for BLM so I would say Determination otherwise.

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>>382760927
Get your cup from Hardees then

they also sponsored wrestlemania of all things

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Realistically, when do you reckon Shirogane will be released? I'm about 10mil away from being able to afford a Large and I'm wondering how much time I may have.

When does 24m raid comes?

>>382761013
Well fuck. Guess I'm penta melding the current gear

>>382761039
>Final Fantasy XIV is a huge fan wank
Who would have thought.

>>382761039
Omega is a single boss in FF5, not a location, retard.

>>382760992
Well if that's the case the 5th Garlean Legion Legatus better fucking be involved in this. It's like a rule.

So PLD (at 50 at least) seems to just be a 123 halone combo coupled with defensive cooldowns to cycle throughout fights and using scorn and spirits within whenever they're up. Does it change much after and what are the rotations for the other two tanks like?

>>382761106
4.1, or more specifically 4.11 or something

HA HA
TIME FOR THE VOID

>>382760816
FFXIV advertising is so weird.

>>382761106
Already confirmed 4.1 , 3 months from now.

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>>382760813
It's also 3 raises not 2.

>>382761106
October

>>382761196
>>382761213
Great thanks dudes, makes me feel a bit better, will hit my goal before that.

>>382761106
4.1.
Somewhere in October.

>>382760943
Tell me about {Bane},why does it lose the DPS?

>>382758738
You use swift cast when veraero or verthunder doesn't proc and you already used your impact. Basically another tool to get one more shot at avoiding jolt.

>>382761223
I omitted the swiftcast raise because it doesn't change anything you retard.

>>382761172
The Rift in Time is quite obviously the Interdimensional Rift in FFV

The raid isn't in omega, omega is the finish line.

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>>382760273

motherfucker

>>382760340

How? You drop an aethertrail and your shit is delayed for 1 minute, same with how dropping a trail delays Bahamut. SMN functionally has not changed in how """""""""""punishing""""" it is but the level of fuckup to lose DWT/Bahamut aether is tanamount to a MNK or NIN dropping their respective buffs. It's so fucking impossible that it might as well be an impossibility unless you actually just contracted a seizure and just push random buttons for 30 seconds for your dots. At least Bahamut is a permanent buff, unlike LotD. At least Bahamut is always useful when you bring him out on the field, unlike Overheat. SMN is probably the most straightforward role at the moment and still one of the most flexible. DWT/Deathflare having their cds lowered means you can use a slow or fast Bahamut summon opener when the fight suits it. You have so much flexibility compared to other roles, you'd have to be retarded to not use it properly.

>>382760984
because they shifted all of our damage into straight up damage instead but instead of having an actual burst we now have "sustained" dps, I say "sustained" because it relies heavily on you not fucking up your aetherflow usage or your bahamut summon will be delayed by 2 minutes.

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>>382761135
>melt the current 290 gear
>craft the new af gear
>penta meld again
>wait for the next gear to drop out and repeat

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>>382761245
>>382761224

>>382761172
Raid itself is big reference to the ff5 castle

>>382761172
>The Interdimensional Rift - Omega is a single boss in FF5, not a location, retard.
What did he mean by this?

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>half the entrants aren't even using an action or an ability
Top 50 spot guaranteed.

>>382760943
At this point I've been doing hardcast-DoTs -> TD -> DWT TD and 3 painflares for trash pulls. Bane's just not worth it, might as well hardcast DoTs individually if you have to.

>>382761190
Your combo will change later on, you eventually get 2 attacks that come from riot blade a dot and a nuke. Other tanks have 3 combos by now.

>>382761298
Where can I go to know more about it without playing the game? No wikis pls.

>>382761314
>top spot will be two lesbian catsluts/lizardsluts staring at each other

>>382761378
>Other tanks have 3 combos by now.
Not DRK.

>>382761286
I'm new to SMN and still learning pls no bully

>>382760320
>>382761035
Was just a curiosity since I've seen some people claim some wacky shit based on their experiences after having just unlocked jobs.
You're right in that nothing in an MMO is hard. XIV from what I can tell has more complex rotations/priority systems or whatever for their jobs than WoW, but that's still not saying they're anything approaching the technical requirements of say, a fighting game, or anything really fast.

The only real difficulty in a job comes from how you optimize damage while mechanics are in play. Adjusting your rotation to preemptively prepare for down time/some mechanic, losing as little damage as possible from having to move on Black Mage and keeping your shit 100% efficient while paying attention to a bunch of mechanics at once and being able to adjust to the rest of your group's inevitable fuckups and still succeed.

I don't know where I'd put that kind of difficulty in relation to other genres or whatever, but what's here has a certain degree of it, and some jobs are punished more for not playing perfectly/planning than others - HW Black Mage, and SB Dragoon come to mind currently. I'd say Samurai isn't any technically easier than either of those two, but it's certainly punished less for mistakes.

>>382761419
delete

Someone explain MCH to me.

For 50 levels, you're conditioned to burn ammunition as often as possible to maximize combos and potency while stacking Wildfire/gun haste for max damage.

Lv. 50+ you're expected to generate heat as quickly as possible for a 10s buff that gives you +10% damage and inhibits your damage by 5% for 10s after its over. However, using ammunition--again, you spent 50 levels learning to consume this rapidly--inhibits your heat gauge.

Lv.60+ you get an ability that expends heat like a fucking resource, which compromises the 10s burst you learned in 51-60.

It's like they had two people working on MCH:: one wants you to avoid overheating and the other wants you to generate as much heat as possible. Then they put both ideas in at once. Is this job incredibly complex or incredibly stupid?

>>382761247
>>382760984
>>382761364
Because painflare has such a low cooldown now, you can use painflare then manually cast your two dots and painflare is up again already so its basically:

Painflare > miasma bio > painflare > miasma bio

For however enemies you have

>>382761447
*delete Delirium and Scourge*

As you wished.

>>382748520
>bloodspiller potency increase
Why

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Will we get the original Twintania?

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>>382760007
>MFW We'll be fighting him in an endless spiraling abyss on a platform While this plays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-2XY4c1XGM

>>382761536
being DRK is suffering enough so they might as well get some pleasure from the shitty job.

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IT'S UP

>>382761480
Why even have bane then? It's shit even in low level crap.

>>382761536
Because spending MP on Black Night for 50 Blood to use Bloodspiller was actually slight DPS loss.

>>382761536

It means blackest night is now never a DPS loss if used properly. It's a small, but important buff.

>>382761482
>delete delirium
>hey guys, new DRK skill!
>delirium

>>382761594
It's literally scholars only aoe tool now, they have nothing because they removed blizzard 2, I'll probably never go back to scholar now.

>>382761615
Its a small potency loss of 2, but its basically nothing.

>>382761594
until they actually rewind the bane nerf, it's pretty much better to manually apply your dots to each enemy

>>382761591
No, it;s not

>>382761676
>Shadowflare

>>382761213

Not that guy, but damn. I only want a medium myself, and I was worried I'd only have a week to make another 3-4 million gil.

Three months should be cake.

>>382760927
Sounds like you guys have old stock, better call your vendor and get fresh snacks

>>382761594
>>382761615
>dpsing as drk
No

>>382761479
At level 64 you get a trait that increases the damage of your 3 GCD attacks (and makes them look cool) if your heat is between 50 and 100, so you want to actually keep your heat there instead of trying to overheat other than in very specific circumstances. Hence the multiple methods of gaining and dissipating heat. Bullets let you keep your heat in check without having to spend time on Cooldown while also giving a potency buff and a guaranteed combo.

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>tfw you don't consider yourself good enough to seek a static within your FC

I'll just keep grinding botanist and work my way through the DoH ranks and hopefully make some cash to buy myself a house.

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>>382748520
>no buffs for mch
>buff bard though

Why

>>382761749
>Shadowflare
>not shit
>not straight up damage
>good

How the fuck you you even play DRG properly and who the fuck thought of the whole Nostrond mechanic
>eyes tied to OGCDs tied to jumps tied to Geirskogul tied to BotD
>"burst" skill that makes you NOT use your jumps during the duration, or at least half of it, because now you suddenly don't generate your resource
What the flying fuck. Should have never listened to that fucker telling me
>just play DRG man, they're pretty good, NIN is in the shitter right now

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I'm back bitches
>belt captcha

>>382761789
>looking for a static in an fc
first mistake

go look at party finder instead

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>>382761591
STOP

https://arrstatus.com/

>>382748520
>reduced heavy swing tp cost
WHO ASKED FOR THIS? WHOOO
FUCK YOU SQUARE ENIX, FUCKING FIX MY FUCKING BEAST GAUGE PENALTY REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>382760943

What? DoTs are 800 potency combined. Assume Miasma II ticks once before Bane that's 760 potency. Going by bane diminishing returns its 760/608/456/304/152. Painflare is, with 1000 damage on 5 enemies with 760 damage on 1 target. 1760 potency from 1 set of dots + painflare vs. 2280 damage from Bane. It would take like 16 enemies for Bane not to be worth it vs Painflare.

>>382761884
the patch download is up

SERVS UP GOGOGO

>>382761797
>buff bard though
>making an ability work as it should work is a buff

>>382761917
It's been up senpai.

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>>382761809
>made an OCD skill
oh cool

>double potency
NAISU

>lol 15s duration so 45s downtime

SERVRS UP

>>382761906
20% for each enemy affected by bane

So, no. Not when you can hardcast dots between painflare. It's shit.

>>382761789
> came into the game in late january
> looking for static
> a12s clear mandatory
> you cannot clear a12s without static
> well sb new content i will find smth
> a12s pre echo on farm mandatory
And a still managed get pre echo clears with shitter. Its was fucking painful.

>>382761314
Man I want that barding but have no experience attention whoring like that

>>382761949
yes, and?

>>382761887
You'll tank in tank stance and like it, fuckboy

>>382761765
Getting a plot in shirogane will still require taking a day off and winning the millisecond login queue lottery.

>>382759995
Not really, I would think that there are fewer players that play in 3 months time.

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>>382761797
>tfw learned how to play both jobs because of stupid shit like this

One will always be slightly better. At least there's only two jobs in the ranged DPS role.

>>382761797
troubadour not effect the BRD is fucking stupid is why and felt more like an oversight than an intentional choice.

>>382762014
not everyone is on balmung/gilgamesh fuckboy

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>>382761536
They're trying to make it so if you spend the MP on Blackest Night instead of Dark Arts for Syphon and Souleater it's not as much of a DPS loss. We'll see if that's the case since using Bloodspiller still moves Syphon Strike back a GCD.
All they should do is just make Dark Arts increase bloodspiller potency by more than 140 like Carve and Spit.

>>382761985
You can craft it or buy off AH. It's just a red version of http://xivdb.com/item/12991/Orthodox+Barding

>By the time Savage hits, we'll have jumped up by 65 ilevels this expansion.

Going from i275 to i340 is massive. 4.2 will take us up to something like i370 and by the time we're gearing up for the final patches of the expansion, we'll be approaching ilevel400.

>>382762062
Why should it affect bard when summoners can devotion themselves?

>no SCH changes
200% mad

>>382762074
but if you're in grit (like yoshida-san wants us to be in order to respect the content) Bloodspiller is the highest priority DA use behind CnS, and this just makes it even stronger

SERVER AND SHIROGANE HOUSING OPEN

>>382762074
take Bloodspiller off the global cooldown.

>>382761906
>Bio and Miasma reduced to a whopping 8 potency tick a 5+ enemies
LOL

>>382762071
Welp, I'm on a EU server so I'm screwed too.

>>382762121
Cannot*

Is DA Quietus as worthless as I think it is?
>50 potency gain
>Dark Passenger is 100 pot gain for 1 DA mp cost
>DA DP is 140 gain for 1 DA mp cost
>Abyssal is 120 potency for less mp cost

>>382762147
SCH is balanced now, you're just butthurt cause your SOOPER OH-PEEE class is nerfed now :^)

>>382761979

Right 152 for every 5th and onward target hit by Bane. Your thing about DoT's would make sense but pulls shouldn't be going past 45 seconds or so to begin with with two 5k~ dps and 5k combined tank/healer. At most you'd be able to dot up 2-3 targets for maximum effect, Broil alone is , per gcd, better than 1 dot for 5 ticks.

>>382755253
Hang on, does this mean that the shuriken is actually better than raiton because it benefits from the slashing debuff as well as poisons?

>>382762150
SERVER AND SHIROGANE HOUSING AND OMEGA SAVAGE ARE UP

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>>382761797
Why does he draw so many cats? And he must do nothing but drawing cats at this rate

>>382762071
>on Cactaur
>used to be midsized and comfy
>now it's full of refugees from both data centers all wanting to be on the next big server

>>382762148
are you supposed to DA CnS in grit now or what

>>382762176
yes its garbage, basically never use DA on quiet

>>382762209
Why would you ever not DA CnS?

>>382762194
that's how it's been.

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>>382761538
Yes, but it's just a reskin of an existing enemy model. Didn't think to screencap it though.

>>382762190
t. AST

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>>382762148
Well of course, bloodspiller "ignores" Grit so yeah it'll always be second priority for DA after CnS and I think even without DA it's still not much of a DPS loss if one at all.

>>382762154
Another great solution to Bloodspiller being kinda useless.

>>382762192
Did you forget tri disaster + dwt putting tridisaster off cd straight away?

>>382762209
literally the only time you should ever NOT DA CnS is if you're aoeing like 10 mobs and need the mana

>>382762154
Hope for 4.05. BS should be ogdc fro the begining. Mb they will bring back scourge as dot for PS,
>>382762209
If you mt in grint yes.

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>>382762176
question, is Dark Passenger even worth using anymore? Serious btw

>http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/80cd4583bf743600105b947d6906d0909189e479
■North American Data Center
▼Preferred Worlds
× Coeurl
○ Goblin
× Mateus
○ Zalera

Why are Couerl and Mateus still preferred worlds if they have too many characters and they're blocking creation? Do they plan to remove the double experience buff when they stop the preferred world thing or something? Cause that'd be kinda shitty.

>>382762207
Yeah it's kinda shitty that we've been flooded with so many people for whatever the fuck reason.

>>382762207
I hate this. I liked it when we were dead.

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>>382762201
They're nice cats though.

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>>382762190
Useless skills, worst damage, worst healing, ast got better shields, worst mana managment, fairy is useless.

>>382762297
On more than one target, definitely. It's a gain from 140 potency on single target DA usage (save for DA CnS).

>>382762297
very very rarely. you can safely take it off your bar and just use Quietus + DA Abby Siphon

>>382762276

Doesn't really change the core of the matter which is DoTs into Bane is better than Painflare. It's most certainly not:

>its a dps loss unless you hit 7 enemies, SEVEN ENEMIES

>>382762297
It's worth using if there's no one to put the slashing debuff up (happens a lot in dungeons), or if there are exactly two enemies. At three or more enemies Abyssal Drain becomes better.

>>382762297
Nope.

>>382762297
No, even as aoe, Blind is shit lvl 70 mobs.

>>382762201
It just bothers me that he only ever draws suncats.
He even draw Khloe as a suncat despite her huge moon eyes.

>>382758738
Attacking while moving after already using dualcast.

>>382762373
Who the fuck? Are you retarded? No one literally no one said that bane is better than painflare.

>>382762302
Mateus is the new Balmung so all the fags are moving there

I guess they want people to filter to Goblin and Zalera because they haven't caught up with the other two.

>>382761039
Not the same. The Crystal Tower is one of the most iconic dungeons in the entire series, and the other is just a superboss most people just ran away from and is overshadowed by the various other Omegas (Weapons) in the series.