>Miyazaki describes himself as a difficult child. “Unlike

not interested

Not smart or talented

i don't know how, plus odds are it'll sell like 10 copies

I hope he fucking dies.

You never hear stories about people who didn't make it and I bet there's about 10,000 to this one story.

>>382735842

I hope he chokes in his sleep.

>>382735842
>video games

>>382736326
>>382736460
Have a rough day chap?

Suck @ coding

>>382736424
>You never hear stories about people who didn't make it
Well yeah who wants to hear about that?

>>382735842
markets are different these days, they wouldn't hire a modern miyazaki off the street like that, you have to have inside connections

>>382736424
Only winners are recorded in history

Fuck off

>>382735842
I'm trying.

>>382736326
>>382736460
>>382736643
Mad af

>>382736637
>>382736554
Thus why you shouldn't go off and neckbeard it up making a video game if you can't afford it.

>>382736460
>>382736326
Jealousy is a sign of low intelligence you know.

>>382736326
I mean of course he is going to die, everyone dies.

>>382735842
I'm not smart, asian, or talanted enough.

>>382736903
Sucking cocks is a sign of low intelligence too but you don't seem to stop any time soon with that crap

all that and only 1 decent game to show for it
hint: it's not a souls game

>>382735842
This nigga just out himself as an ideas guy?

>>382737148
Kings Field?

>Social sciences

What a faggot, no wonder he's such an incompetent hack.

>>382737258
>e-except that o-one!

>>382737258
>>382737397
Miyacucki didn't make any King's Field games retards

>>382735842
>Social Science degree
>works for Oracle

What?

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>>382737258
King's Field is Natoshi Jin's baby. He still works at From Software, wonder what he does nowadays. Must be in his 60s by now. Anon is talking about pic related.

>>382737524
hes a lying piece of shit

And yet his only good games were ones where Japan Studio had to pull up his slack.

Funny how he tried to wash his hands off DaS3 when everyone saw how shit it was.

>>382737569
bingo

>>382737627
>Funny how he tried to wash his hands off DaS3 when everyone saw how shit it was.
Before the game came out he spoke about how he was done with the Souls games. I think even worse than that statement is your implication that DaS was bad, or that Japan Studio had anything to really do with Demon's Souls.

>>382737524
He had an IT job you can have any shit degree and get one of those.

>>382737843

> I think even worse than that statement is your implication that DaS was bad

Don't try to defend post-Anor Londo, anon. Everything goes fucking downhill after that.

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>>382735842
>I didn’t have a dream,” he says. “I wasn’t ambitious.”

I can relate, it's getting worse as midlife is three years from now.

Studying Computer Science at uni. The cool thing is I can also do the games development unit for free. I really want to develop games, so the computer science degree can give me essential knowledge and also act as a back-up, considering it's the highest paying career path down-under.

>>382738021
Yep. I speed run the game frequently, and boy, does it get consumed by the abyss.

The best people are always disillusioned with society, there's nothing appealing about normal paths through life unless you're a sheep

>>382735842
>29
>too old for graduate positions
wat
does japan's unis have a christmas cake policy too or something?

>>382738021
It's strange to me that over the years it has gone from "Lost Izalith is shit" to "post-Anor Londo is shit." New Londo is good, the Archives is good except for the forest.

>>382738421
Companies there probably want younger grads to mold into their company image older people are probably seen as less malleable and more problematic.

>>382738124
>considering it's the highest paying career path down-under.

No it isn't. We have no tech industry here, you're getting scammed. CompSci in Australia is a complete memedegree, I work with a guy who has one. At a supermarket.

>>382735842
yeah he does look like a slacker

he looks like he's 22 here

I have no good ideas for a vidya.
I'd just wish one day i was obscenely wealthy so that I could dump a couple hundred million so that someone would take on the task of making S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2

>>382738536

It's not just level design but it simply pales in comparison to the big adventure of ringing the two bells. Post-Anor Londo is simply you cleaning up the remaining areas, that sometimes I like to think that Ornstein and Smough were the real final bosses of Dark Souls. Everything else that happens feel too much like the post-game of Dragon's Dogma.

>>382735842
Wish this happened more often.

I just graduated, I don't want to apply to a job. I'm making something myself. But each month I feel remorse because I don't know if someone will take me on a entry job five years from now.

>>382738892
Just make sure you log your project, make sure it's something you can show employers on your resume.

They'll count it as starting your own business if you're being serious enough with it.

>>382738654
>No it isn't.
Yes it is.

Just because your friend failed to achieve anything with a degree doesn't mean others will fall down the same path. People have degrees in many fields that aren't utilised.

Australia is becoming a tertiary/service-based economy; IT supplies that, is the fastest growing field, and is being funded the most.

>>382735842
Because I'm 25, been. A neet for 5 years, and can't even get a job at fucking McDonalds

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>>382736832

>>382739857
The government is actively and intentionally throwing our IT sector under the bus and we import more software engineers than their are jobs for them every year. You're obviously not going to bother doing your research though, so have fun.

Videogames are mostly a winner-takes-all market. Can't do it and aim to make a living.

So it has to be pure passion.

In my case, like most software engineers in NA, my contract prevents me from writing software that isn't owned by my company.

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>>382740158
>You're obviously not going to bother doing your research though, so have fun.

And you'r obviously not going to bother providing any citations to corroborate your narrative, so have fun! ^-^

>>382740229
>my contract prevents me from writing software that isn't owned by my company.
wow that fucking sucks, man.

>>382740229
so you're like a slave?

>>382737569
Did Souls just emerge at the right time when the industry was really stagnating?

I mean AC looks like it could easily gain traction and a following. Look at that clip. Robots and high speed.

If AC is on par with Souls in terms of quality then I need to get into it.

>>382740370
The average Salary for an Computer Science graduate in Australia is $53,000 p/a, which is less than a non-skilled worker with a few minor tickets (working with heights/forklift license etc) in a full time job.
http://www.graduatecareers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/AGS_reports/GCA_Graduate_Salaries_2013/GCA_Graduate_Salaries_2013.pdf
>The difference in median GSS in the upper half of the fields was $27,000, between top-ranked dentistry ($80,000) and eleventh ranked computer science ($53,000 – see Table 8).

As a Storeman I earn $32 an hour, and work anywhere from 38 to 50 hours a week depending on whether or not I take extra shifts, and out-earn the average Comp Sci graduate by about 20%.

>>382740903
That's what it felt like to me. I was about quit gaming altogether since every game I was coming across was shit. Then dark souls came and it was literally game of the generation.

>>382735842
>Unlike most kids in Japan, I didn’t have a dream
then he's like most other kids in japan?

>>382740229
just write software until you get something good and quit so you can sell it.

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>>382741125
Wow, you delivered.

So I skimmed through it. Yeah for people who immediately find work after graduating earn between 50-60 thousand. This is still a pretty solid income, but it also depends on how well you did while studying and any awards you got, which result in a significantly higher income. Not to mention that your average income will grow depending on how much you have worked in that particular job. I may have been hyperbolic when I said it's the "highest paying field" in general, but it's up there.

>>382738760
>It's not just level design but it simply pales in comparison to the big adventure of ringing the two bells
I didn't see it that why, I thought it was awesome that there were two more areas to explore. Sort of a the adventure continues vibe.
> that sometimes I like to think that Ornstein and Smough were the real final bosses of Dark Souls
I've seen that before, but Manus as penultimate and Gwyn as final is my shit.

>>382740229
>my contract prevents me from writing software that isn't owned by my company
That's cucked up. I'm glad I'm a part of the NEET master race.

>>382735842
>>Miyazaki describes himself as a difficult child.

The Dark Souls of children

>>382736326

Hollow yourself

>>382742039
>I may have been hyperbolic when I said it's the "highest paying field" in general, but it's up there.
It really isn't. The minimum wage here is $17/hour now. That makes minimum wage for 38 hours a week nearly $34k. You're taking time out of the workforce and paying to get a degree that doesn't even earn you double minimum wage, and you get out earned by a bunch of unskilled labor. The Tech sector in Australia is being intentionally sabotaged by both Labor and Liberal governments, the disaster that is the NBN should be enough proof of that by itself. The NBN was meant to be COMPLETED by 2018, it's not even 20% done.

Comp Sci is a degree that you combine with something else. By itself it's worthless, it's best when paired with an industry focused one. Double major with a more specialized degree if you have a chance. Get rid of that video games idea, we have no industry for it. Pair it up with a harder STEM degree.

>>382742626
>Australia
Lol irrelevant country

why does some of /v/ seem to hate the guy who made one of the better series in the past fifteen years?

>>382740229
>my contract prevents me from writing software that isn't owned by my company.
JESUS dude I hope you get paid well.

I'll be stuck working at a grocery store the rest of my life. I've come to accept that.

>>382740229
>my contract prevents me from writing software that isn't owned by my company.
I am pretty sure you have been lied to. Contracts don't work this way.

>>382742849
Same reason people hate Hideo Kojima, Hideki Kamiya.

>>382742849
because he made a decent game, then let the quality of the series slip after it. also pigeonholed the company into that series

>>382743082
But only one of his games were bad. Stop being so tsun.

>>382743000

Kojima steals from everyone, he is the worst ideas guy to ever exist, even more now since he's riding in the jew pocket and now protected by kikes if Konami tries to do anything else to him besides cockblocking health insurance.

Not my chink anymore he sold his soul, Kamiya will always be up there and untainted.

>>382742626
I was feeling kind of stupid for passing on a comp sci degree at the start of this year, but this sure as hell fixed that.

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>>382736326
Why do you hate him, he is adorable.

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>>382743391
>mfw Kojima manages to sink Sony completely

>>382738397
This.

>>382743391
>untainted
where is that loss edit of Scalebound

>>382743391
>>382743536
>PCfats still this mad

>>382743407
I very nearly started a Chemical Engineering degree at the start of 2016, but I saw the writing on the wall and pulled out at the last minute. Come 2017, most ChemEng majors are working in unrelated fields, AKA flipping burgers.

Honestly, degrees are something you should only bother with if there's something you WANT to do and you don't care about money in this country. If you're dead set on being a shrink or something, go ahead. But if you want to make money, then get in shape, get your head in gear and get ready to work hard, because white collar in this country doesn't pay dick.

>>382743703
if you actually like video games, you would want sony to sink

>>382742918
It's not a lie. I work at a similar organization. You sign a document which requires you to declare all your prior patents, creations and inventions. Anything that comes up after, the org has a very real argument for stating "Well, you could have made/thought of/created that on company time, so its ours." and since I'm salaried, I'm always on company time.

>>382743782
if you actually like video games, you would want sony to succeed

>>382742918
contracts can be whatever the courts say

unfortunately

>>382742626
Like I said, you make more when you work more. 50-60 thousand is decent for some and good for many, considering its the start-out pay once graduating. I'm thankful for this convo since it's made me more skeptical, but I'm still happy I'm doing this. I'm liable to make up to 80,000, and maybe one day move from computer science to something more, but its my computer science degree that got me there. And again, I want to develop games and cool software and this path allows it, in a safe way also.

>>382744037

Not him, but what if I dont?

>>382743407
What are you planning on doing now?

>>382744037
If you liked video games, you want every system and every platform to fail because they have rottened to the core.
Pull it from the roots, and start anew from the ashes

>>382736637
im pretty sure they record who the combatants were.

so...

>>382744037
>paywall
>nowhere near the quality of PS1/PS2 1st party games
>would rather cater to casuals so they throw out shit games and focus on AAA multiplats
you're on fucking /v/. people give you this information all the time. why are you still the way you are? it's like giving you money, then going off to literally burn it away with fire

>>382738078
youre 57?

>>382743972
Well, you are kind of stupid to join under those conditions.
Also I don't think it is truly lawful, but still what >>382744064 says is probably true.
You will never win in court except if you have a really good case.
>and since I'm salaried, I'm always on company time.
Can't imagine this to be true either, but big companies will find ways to fuck you in the ass anyway.
You should probably just find something else, honestly.

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>>382744037
>>382744037
>>382744037
>>382744037
>>382744037

>>382736326
>>382736460
Fucking summer.

>>382737148
>it's not a souls game
But the interview in the OP literally says about souls game.

>>382744590
i don't agree with them, but summerfags are the ones who will praise miyazaki after they found out their hardcore game was a nip game

>>382742626
>>382744196
>>382743407
To add on, many notable figures came from computer science.

Bjarne Stroustrup - inventor of c++
James Gosling - inventor of java.
Steve Huffman - creator of reddit.

They all learnt/teach computer science. To say it isnt worth your time is frankly stupid. Its what u make of it. if start-out cash is all that is worth to u, the u live a very boring life.

>>382744461
A contract such as mine comes with sufficient pay and benefits to offset the perceived disadvantages. They're also fairly typical for consultant roles within my field (software engineering & devops) so it's barely more than a wrinkle on the radar. It's just something for me to keep in mind when I'm working on my side projects.

>>382744370
>paywell
every company does it unfortunately, and they didn't introduce it
>nowhere near the quality of PS1/PS2 1st party games
subjective
>would rather cater to casuals so they throw out shit games and focus on AAA multiplats
it was sony who funded demon's souls and allowed miyazaki to start the souls series, it's sony who helped him make bloodborne, it's sony who made gravity rush, it's sony who published nioh, it's sony who kept the last guardian alive after a decade, it's sony who pushed to bring back crash, it's sony who gave kojima the freedom to make the game he always wanted, and so on and so forth
but no, let's write all that off because they also make games that aren't targeted at you

>>382744461
It's not the company that fucks people over with contractual law. The courts and politicians are the ones that made those laws in the first place. Companies HAVE to operate within the existing legal structure. They have no choice. You can't blame them for following shit laws that they have no other choice than to follow whether they like it or not.

>>382744862
They're also the ones who shitpost juvenile vulgarity without rhyme or reason.

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>>382745023
the only good games you listed in that paragraph were nioh and bloodborne. gravity rush is just an okay game. it had a lot of potential, but the sequel came up short. the last guardian was okay, too, and nothing compared to stuff like ICO and SotC

steam does not have a paywall and it is literally the best out of all companies

>uncharted
>spiderman shit
>GTA
>NBA/NFL/MLB/FIFA
>rocket league
>CoD
>BF
is what they focus on now

>>382744458
midlife is 25

>>382745054
We are talking about contracts the companies themselves have designed though.
Basically the courts give the companies leeway to fuck their employees in the ass.

>>382744951
I just value my "hobby"-projects too much, that I want to give up being able to make money and potentially live of them.
I'll try to find a company that values the same, when I will look for a job in a few months (about to finish my CS degree).

Nintendo drones embarrassing as fuck. Stick to waggleshit. All the geniune authors are making PS4 games.

>>382745023
>subjective
I really feel that "subjectivity" is ruining the west. I'm not even talking about video games anymore. I'm talking about EVERYTHING.

>>382745391
only the first two games you listed have anything to do with sony you cretin

>steam ... is literally the best out of all companies
enjoy your paid mods and renting your games

>>382738021
Are we just going to ignore all the bad parts of DeS?

>>382745603
you're a legitimate retard

>>382745391
>the only good games you listed in that paragraph
>Doesn't list DeS
Is it possible to have this shit a taste?
>>382745528
Lol imagine being this pathetic.

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>>382738421

In Japan, the job you get out of graduation is the job you have for life. Sometimes you get recruited for that job before you even graduate, and you spend your entire life doing exams to get into the right high school, so you can get into the right college, so you can get that ONE job.

There isn't a culture of firing people, to the point that they call what they do for fuck-ups "Japanese retirement". They will reassign you in a room far away from your old office/cubicle, and give you humiliating busywork until you quit. Pretty much what Konami did with Kojima, but he was rather high profile.

It's highly irregular to hire people in their late 20's and above, since there are throngs of 21 and 22 year olds fresh out of college to properly train in the company's culture. It results in a lot of stagnation in tech companies, and people getting into positions through seniority rather than merit.

People that unfortunately find themselves outside this system (company went under, pressured to quit/retire early) often end up homeless. There are entire shanty towns of well educated homeless in the big cities, recognizable by those iconic blue tents.

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>>382745609
physical copies are literal rentals, too, if you actually take a look. i've never once paid for any mods and most people haven't. only someone who is naive to almost everything he does will believe that people pay real money for mods

>>382745592
knack

>>382745738
You don't even know how wrong your beliefs are.

>>382745901
if they're well educated why can't they just build actual homes?

My only real talent is writing. I'm hoping some day people will read something of mine and it will inspire them to make a game out of it. Writers in games either end up being very important or completely irrelevant. No middle ground.

>>382745916
>physical copies are literal rentals, too
hm yeah because sony can just walk in to my house and take my games back, oh wait
>only someone who is naive to almost everything he does will believe that people pay real money for mods
only someone that is literally new won't remember that the company who touts as "the best" tried to implement paid mods already

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>>382745901
>and people getting into positions through seniority rather than merit.

>>382745756
yeah, i forgot DeS, but that's when sony was still good. BB only resulted because "muh exclusive" and the general popularity of souls games. it was a great game -- both DeS and BB

>>382745916
Second Life and Sims exist.
Todd will turn the next Elder Scrolls or Fallout into the perfect erp bait game so that the desperate will pay for paid mods.

>>382746036
no, you're just an edgelord

>>382745916
>physical copies are literal rentals, too
???

>>382746151
you don't even know what you're saying anymore

>the company who touts as "the best" tried to implement paid mods already
tried, yes. it should be a two-party system, and that's what steam is because they actually listen to their users. console companies just jack up prices without warning and throw out trash games for casuals. i mean, it would be okay to throw out so many shit games like the PS2 did, but it needs more than the small handful of good ones in order to do that

>>382746087
hard to build shit when the ground shakes every 10 seconds

>>382745901
japan needs more nukes

>>382736637
Sometimes, losers also get recorded in history (although this "honor" generally is afforded only to the biggest, most spectacular losers, usually incompetent, insane, just ridiculously unlucky, or some combination of the above).

>>382746430
>actually defending steam and the paid mods debacle
the state of you

>>382746513
but paid mods are utter shit. they only exist in games i don't play, fortunately, which are the vast majority of games on steam

>>382746338
didn't you know, anon? sony can break in to your house and steal your games whenever they want

lol @ these console women (males)

>>382746513
not that anon but
>steam makes a stupid decision
>people are like "that was fucking retarded steam"
>steam is like "ok sorry senpai" and reverts from that decision

oh my, steam is lterally satan, how could I be so blind

>>382745548
The politicians and courts dictate the legal structure that companies are FORCED to work within. They literally have no choice but to enforce contractual law as the courts say they have to. All the "IP protection" bullshit is done because if they DON'T do that then they lose legal rights to defend their IPs altogether.

It's a fucked up system that needs to be fixed, but as it stands companies have no say in what laws they can or can not follow. It's forced on them every single step of the way.

>>382746338
You pay for the license to download and play the game if I remember correctly.

>>382746714
>steam is like "ok sorry senpai"
actually it was more like "o shit, time to rethink how we implement this!" and here's the shocker, they still want to do it!
http://www.pcgamer.com/valve-modders-absolutely-need-to-be-paid/

>>382746338
>buy physical
>Game disc literally has nothing but a steam installer(MGSV)
>Game disc has nothing in it, you have to download a 5 or whatever gb patch that is the actual game(Tony Hawk 5)
Fuck Konami. Fuck Activision

>>382746772
>physical copy
>download

>>382746087

Everything is expensive, and in Japan, you can't even rent a cheap apartment without having someone else vouch for you. It's the reason a lot of foreigners (who aren't english teachers) can't find places to stay beyond hotels.

>>382736326
He will. We all will.

>>382745528
That's quarterlife crisis. Midlife is around the 30s.

>>382745901
The alternative to this is the American system where you go from job to job constantly getting laid off because of outsourcing/illegals.

>>382736637
Funny part is, literally a handful of people would consider running a video game company a success. Compare that to Darwin, Newton, Sam Harris...toys for grown men, hardly an achievement worth remembering 20 years from now

>>382747508
Who gives a fuck what the masses think of your brand of success? I mean jesus you're implying anyone can be Darwin, Newton, etc.

>>382743782
>t. mad Xgroid

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>>382747508
>Darwin

Most of the devs that have been on the steam top 100 have done it as a side job from a stable career job. Only after they have success do they pursue it full time.

>>382747821
>stable career job
Really?
Most of the ones I'm aware of did game development whilst working a wagecuck job.
I can't imagine anybody would have enough time to develop games solo whilst working a career job.

>>382748290
yes because it literally takes years and years. there are a few make or break cases but a lot of them are full timers doing it as a side project.

>>382748290

That's why a lot of them are early access. They cant finish the game in record time because they're busy with their own normal careers.

>>382749270
>Shilling for EA games

>>382749952

No sane person with a stable career will pursue video game development, anon. Most indie devs just do it in their spare time.

>>382750251
Cave Story was made over period of 3-4 years in the creators spare time.

>>382746908
Holy shit, how delusional is he?

>>382752069
>valve introduces a way to sell hats and other user created custom content
>people sees it as a way to make shekels and accepts it
>valve does it again for other games
>people get mad that their potential shekels could be taken away
Why are jews less cool now

he made himself a name through hard work, that's pretty impressive nowadays when everyone praise fucking hacks

I feel like this wouldn't be possible in the US. In Japan they seem willing to hire you even if you have little/no experience, as they are willing to train you. In the US, you need at least 5 years of senior level experience just to get an entry level job.

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>>382735842
I am tho, but I don't expect it to sell more than a few copies among friends and then fade into obscurity.

>>382737524
You need any random degree to apply for any job, nobody works in the field they studied in bud

>>382740903
For me, I was hitting that stump that happens every once in a while. Nothing seems particularly interesting, everything you play, you play once and just forget about it. Dark Souls came at the perfect time to counteract the more linear, cinematic "experiences". Despite the whole prepare to die thing, the game actually balances difficulty amazingly well. Every time I died I felt like it was my mistake, not the game going "LOL HARD". Except for the Crystal Cave because of the occasional geometry fuckup.

>>382738421
Most schools have a "under 23 only" policy, I don't see this as being specific to Japan.
We allow adults in uni, sure, but that's not "real" useful education there.

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>>382753358
The US video game industry (which pretty much just CA) is fucked because of this.

>tfw want to create but have no fucking skills and no time to do anything but shitpost on /v/

>>382738421
>christmas cake policy
What is this? Google isn't giving me much.

>>382745901
sounds dystopian and soulless . no wonder they kill themselves in droves

>>382752894
official valve curated skins for characters in a multiplayer game isn't the same thing as mods for skyrim

>>382753358
if that were true, you wouldn't see so many pink haired Xe beasts at lead position despite only having human studies diploma and a portfolio consisting of a completed unity ball tutorial, and a Flash VN on steam about how little sad girls can only find happiness through lesbianism and gender war.

>>382737258
King's Field was made after Ico.

this board feels like it's in some sort of stasis because no new Fromsoft game has been announced to generate colossal hype/NEVEREVER shitposting

>>382758760
I've noticed as well.