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How did a weeb-filled, furry appealing, wow clone held together

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How did a weeb-filled, furry appealing, wow clone held together with 1000 times folded samurai steel upset and claim the title of greatest MMORPG from a WoW when it had more subscribers, more popularity, and more money behind it for decades? Are we looking at the Waterloo of Western MMO gaming? Is XIV the Evangelion of MMOs?
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>>382725787
You just said a bunch of shit that makes like no sense and I'm asking you to do a stop it.
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Holy shit Aether get your shit together
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>>382726435
Isn't it maintenance?
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>>382725787
>one is a shitty raid boss
>the other is a great raid boss
Really tinkers the thinker
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>>382725787
>WoWtards start leaking into the game
>the playerbase starts getting stupider
There is correlation and causation.
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>Leviathan exploded
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>furry appealing
But that's wow
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>>382725787

FFXI was better.
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>Wanted to finish getting botanist to 50 before maintenance
>Servers exploding

T-thanks yoshida
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>>382726840
Maintenance in 3 hours, everyone has been randomly disconnecting
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>>382725787
Both XIV and WoW are shit MMOs. Taking the title of king of shit is more accurate
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>>382725787

>furry appealing

I wish
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You sound like you support Trump with all your historical revisionism.
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>>382727213
I miss when the community was still relatively small, people talked in instances, marked mobs in dungeons, were helpful and patient. Shout chat wasn't infested with political garbage.
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>>382725787
>tfw weebs are too stupid to understand their own game's story
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>>382729513
>I miss when the community was still relatively small
The community is smaller than ever. Those well adjusted people stopped playing when Yoshida started pandering to the """hardcore"""
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>>382725787
MMOs are really fucking bad and you should feel bad for playing such a garbage genre.
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Just finished Doma Castle, why does Yoshi-P always kill off the bro characters?
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Why do people pretend XIV is super successful? All verified numbers put it at around only 500k or so subs. Having lots of advertising means nothing for the quality of the game or its popularity.
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>>382730458
He lives. Yotsuya did too.
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FUCK YOU YOSHI P
FIX YOU GOD DAMN SHIT
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Blizzard got complacent & kept releasing unfinished expansions

They also dumbed down the game to appeal to normies who left for the next big thing like LOL & alienated the actual players in the process
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/ranking/frontline/weekly/?sort=match

Shame you're allowed to cheat your ass off in XIV and not get banned.
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MIDGARDSORMR JUST WENT BOOM

GOD DAMN IT
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"""""""""DDoS""""""""""
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Since the servers are on fire what color boots look better?
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I was 1% away form killing Susana EX

FUCK
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>>382731595
i can only imagine your suffering and rage
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>>382731529
Left
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DUDE WE'RE GETTING DDOS'D LMAO
LOOKS LIKE ALL THE IP'S ARE ON THE WEST COAST OF NA FOR SOME REASON ROFL
IDK PLS UNDERSTAND
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>>382731193
Everyone went boom, even the login lobby server.

>>382731352
To be honest, I find hard to believe that the server just went to shit out of nowhere for no reason (login server was fine, no queues even on Gilgamesh).
Either some janitor accidentally tripped on some cable or put the whole database on fire, or script kiddies are back.
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>>382725787
>Furry-appealing
I thought WoW had more furry bait. All XIV has are Hellsguard Roes and a handful of the beast tribe races.
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>>382731352
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>>382731529
What does the rest of the outfit look like
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>I'm playing right now

I got booted from Bardam's Mettle earlier but I'm chugging along fine now.
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>>382731529
Right
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>>382729513
Those times sucked. Dungeons are better when when people keep moving. None of that marking everything and berating people who AOE'd garbage.
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>>382725787

>One was story driven zone reboot
>The other was a massive game reboot

Really tickles my gnome gnads
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>PF finally fills up
>Go through Susano EX
"Wow everyone finally knows what they're doing!"
>Susano is about to die
>You have been disconnected from the game
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>>382732072
Because it's completely random who will get 90ked and who doesn't.
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Deathwing and bahamut both did around the same amount of damage
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>>382732541
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How good is determination for healers now after 4.0? I see many who have melded VI determination on their gear, which no one unless they were dumb did in 3.X.

Are Crit/SS/Piety still king for something like AST?
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>>382732720
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>>382725787
>Is XIV the Evangelion of MMOs?
you've been watching to much anime nerd
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>>382732541
Even if that were true, one wandered the world for two years and did borderline nothing in that time while the other accomplished his task in a few minutes before getting wrecked by an old man that had gone super saiyan.
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Greatest MMO today is not an impressive title. Finished all of SB and got to i314 in a week. Hopefully this expansion is better than how pathetic HW was.
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>>382731529
Right reminds me of Christmas.
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>>382732847
det is still shit so they're still dumb. you want crit or dh or maybe pie if you play ast and want to do good dps
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>>382732847
I haven't been paying too close attention to the theorycrafters, but I know direct hit is light years ahead of crit. I don't think DH applies to heals so det might matter now
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>>382733287
>I did a weeks worth of content in a week

Do you want a cookie? Patch tomorrow
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>put skill speed materia on everything possible
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>>382732924
He meant that they both killed their respective games
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>Lakshmi Extreme farm as AST
>other healer is a WHM
>literally only ever casts Medica II
>even does Swiftcast + Medica II when people are dying
>forgets to use Vril most of the fight
>still manage to pull some kills due to how busted AST arsenal of spells is
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>>382725787
>EVANGELION of video games
Please go fuck yourself
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>>382734493
Hes right to complain about there being so little drip fed to us at launch. They're holding back so much shit until 4.1 and 4.2.
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>>382729513

Not sure what server your on that's like /v/ but mine hasn't changed since the game began. Sucks to be you I guess.

>>382730485

I think it's more the story of how it started off versus where it is now that confused people. Keep in mind this is /v/ where anybody having any idea what they are talking about at any given time is just as likely as you throwing a die and rolling a six in any given instance.
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>only way to have an xiv thread is to shitpost in the op
cool and good

>>382734683
i was going to but then i chickened out and went direct hit/crit
one day i will be fast
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/334166-Regarding-Balance-Adjustments-in-4.01-and-4.05

みなさんこんにちは、FFXIVプロデューサー兼ディレクターの吉田です。

パッチ4.0紅蓮のリベレーターリリース後、ジョブに関する多数のディスカッションとフィードバックありがとうございます。現在開発チームではいくつかのポイントに分けて各ジョブの状況を確認し、修正や調整を行っています。多岐に渡るため、詳細は実装までお待ちいただくとして、以下、現在の修正・調整の方針をお知らせいたします。

■パッチ4.01とパッチ4.05■

7月4日にはパッチ4.01がリリースとなりますが、こちらは「次元の狭間オメガ:デルタ編(ノーマル)」の公開がメインとなります。本格的な個々のジョブ調整に関しては、パッチ4.05からを予定しており、現在開発チームにて、プレイヤーのみなさんのディスカッションやフィードバックを拝見しながら調整とデバッグを進めていますので、まずはこの点をご承知おきください。

■パッチ4.01の調整■

パッチ4.05を待たずに行う調整として、タンクロール3ジョブの敵視値に関する調整を行います。みなさんから多くの反響をいただいたことに加え、主に低レベル帯やレベリング途中の段階での敵視安定性を上げるため、敵視上昇コンボや範囲敵視上昇アクションの敵視値の一斉引き上げを行います。タンクロールの敵視値については、パッチ4.01以降、引き続きフィードバックをいただけると大変助かります。

また、4.0のリリース直後の時点で調整が必要と判断した一部のアクションについても調整が行われています。

■パッチ4.05の調整■

「次元の狭間オメガ零式:デルタ編」の公開となりますが、この公開と同時にジョブ調整の第一弾を行う予定です。

主に各ジョブの「使用感」に関わるものが多く、様々なアクションに対して細かい数値やシステムの調整を行います。項目が多岐に渡ることと、現時点でまだ数値を調整中であることから、詳細はパッチの公開をお待ちいただければと思います。大まかな調整の方向性は、7月15日に実施する「第37回FFXIVプロデューサーレターLIVE」でもお伝えする予定です。

もちろん、調整はこれに留まらず、継続してジョブ調整を行っていきますので、引き続きのディスカッションとフィードバックをよろしくお願いいたします。

■DPSロールのDPSバランスについて■

前回のプロデューサーレターLIVEでもお伝えしましたが、改めて、DPSロール内のバランスについて文面化しておこうと思います。

現在特に侍のダメージに注目が集まっており、ジョブ同士の様々な比較が行われていますが、開発チームとしてはソロで敵を殴り続けた時の数値のみで、ダメージが横並びになるような調整は行っておりません。
方針としては以下のようになります。

誰の支援も受けずそのジョブ一人だけで出せるダメージ(単独でのダメージ)
ギミックの影響を受ける度合(影響を受けやすいジョブは単独でのダメージをやや高めに、受けにくい場合にはやや低めに)
フルパーティの際にパーティメンバーのダメージを底上げするアクションにより、他のプレイヤーが底上げされるダメージの合計

上記3項目を考慮した上で、できるだけ横並びになるよう調整する、というのが方針となります。

例えば、近接物理DPSの中でも、パーティメンバーのダメージを大きく底上げする竜騎士は、単独でのダメージが侍より低く、逆に侍はパーティダメージの支援能力がほとんど無いため、単独でのダメージを高くするなどの差があります。また、上記にも書いたような「ギミック影響の受けやすさ」や「敵に接近しなくても攻撃できるかどうか」なども、これらの考慮に含まれます。

もちろんこれらの値にもミスやズレが100%無いとは言えず、その効果のほどは零式:デルタ編が公開されるまで、どうしても体感しづらいと思われます。現時点で調整が必要だと判明している部分は、零式:デルタ編が公開されるパッチ4.05で調整を行いますので、零式:デルタ編をプレイされた後、引き続きフィードバックをいただけると大変助かります。

■タンクロールのダメージ計算式について■
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>>382732924
>borderline nothing
Reshaping two continents in one day is borderline nothing?

>while the other accomplished his task in a few minutes
Yeah, good job destroying Eorzea. Not even a continent, literally only Eorzea.

And then he got rekt by Phoenix while literally only Deathwing's own weapon could hurt him.
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>weeb
>furry appealing
>1000 times folded samurai steel
>a WoW
>Waterloo of
>Evangelion of
This is the post-ironic anon you spawned /v/.
Look at how much of a faggot it is.
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>>382735398
I see, I understand everything now.
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>>382735398
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>>382735565
>doesn't get it at all
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>>382735398
>the leaks are real
OH SHIT
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>>382730187

Surprise? I mean you have to clear three hurdles for that to happen at least. One the person claiming something needs to have actually played the game which disqualifies anywhere between 5-50% of people offering their opinions on the internet. Then that person needs to have actually paid attention again probably disqualifying a good chunk of people from the equation. Then there needs to be some recognition of what is happening requiring some understanding of political intrigue, character beats, themes and all that stuff I take for granted as self-explanatory but for dumb weebs might as well be an enigma wrapped in a bottle they can't even begin to understand because all this generation understands is waifus.

Fortunately FFXIV doesn't exclusively rely on weebs, that's just another /v/ stereotype for when people want to generalize and don't even know what they're talking about. So basically standard /v/. When I do run across the occasional obvious weeb in a party I tend to have low expectations though for obvious reasons. I mean there's a reason I picked a relatively smaller server so the odds of having to deal with stupid loud mouth people was just that much less
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>>382735398
WHO'S IN THE SHED
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>>382735398
SAM nerfs confirmed, time for shed memes.
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>>382735398
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When am I getting Okita-san's muffler and yukata?

FGO/GBF crossover when? They're absolutely mad if they don't think this will get them mad cash in Japan
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>>382735398
Anything BLM and RDM related in there?
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>>382733287
This is why I already quit SB. I had fun, I loved playing SAM but there really isn't much to do which is extremely disappointing, so I just end up quitting. At least with Legion it took me like a month and a half before I decided to quit.
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>>382735398
>MCH will now be buffed up tenfold

All of you are done. This is MCH's game again.
who /highestsingletargetdps/ here?
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>>382735398
Tank enmity being increased, get cucked anyone asking for DPS back
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>>382735398
I can already FEEL the SAM nerfs and MCH buffs. Hes basically saying its bullshit for easy jobs to do more DPS than complex ones with lots to track. Plus also boosting enmity for bitching tanks.
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>>382735431
He shifted some tectonic plates when he burst into Azeroth from Deepholm. After that he spend two years flying around doing fuck all aside from showing up in a handful of quests to look menacing until we finally killed him in the two absolute worst raid encounters the game has ever seen.
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>>382727213
>>382729513
The old ARR community couldn't even beat TitanHM. The community has always been extra retarded to the point people were but ching about Aurum Vale during launch
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Who here /ixion while the servers are being DDOS'd/
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>>382735398
>However, with the STR accessory at item level 270, HP will not grow and will put a burden on healers, so we are currently working towards patch 4.05 to deal with this problem.
Thank you YoshiP for reminding tanks that they are tanks. This meme will be dead before it even gets to touch Savage mode.
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Is Aether/Primal still kill?
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>>382737071
Im on primal and i've been mostly fine all day
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>>382736952
tfw healers will soon be out damaging tanks
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>>382736180
No info about it yet, just explaining how he balances stuff, and saying that most balance changes will be released in 4.05 (savage raid patch).
If leaks are real, only MCH and SAM will get "adjusted".
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>>382736659
You mean today
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>>382725787
>Level RDM and play through stormblood msq with it
>Plan on taking a long break from xiv when my sub ends Wednesday
>Decide to try out machinist on a whim
>First time playing ranged physical dps, pretty fun
>Decide to level it up a bit to try out more of its kit, rested bonus and ala Mhiggan earrings at the ready I queue up for a leveling roulette
>30+ wait for queue, wait 10 minutes and the number doesn't change, decide do a potd run instead
>Gain less than half a level at 30
I fucking hate this game sometimes, but I've played too much to outright stop.
sorry for the wall of text, guys
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>>382737319
can you be a bro and tell me about those leaks, haven't been checking anything since release.
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>>382735713
I don't think Yoshi saying they'd balance after release in the live letter constitutes a leak you fucking retard.
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>>382737385
Since 2.0
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>>382737591
Why do you talk so aggressively about things you clearly don't know anything about? A guy came through these threads about a week ago and leaked what everyone had thought were fake patch notes, but now they're been confirmed as true.
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>doing normal Susan for the first time
>its going good, having fun
>getting close to winning
>RDM starts using the LB3
>why
>we have a MNK and SAM in the group, pls stop
>everything is exploding, no one can see the ground markers
>group wipes
He also kept not stacking when he was supposed to, literally ran away from the big flashing arrows.
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>>382737740
Saying vague shit like "Yoshi is gonna boost tank enmity and adjust some jobs DPS!" is not a fucking leak its an educated assumption. Yoshi hasnt even said anything specific.
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>>382735398
>enmity generation will be increased (only for enmity combo and ranged skill)
>VIT change in 3.X was supposed to be temporary (to kill the "STR build" memes), but it was a mistake balance-wise, so it's not coming back
>patch 4.05 will kill i270 STR tank builds once for all
THANK YOU BASED YOSHIDA
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>>382737740
Care to share what the mystery man said?
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>>382737740
Are you 10 years old
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>The records suggest you would have made a poor monk
IT'S NOT MY FAULT THE OTHER 3 PLAYERS IN MY GROUP PLAY WORSE THAN A MENTALLY RETARDED GIBBON COMING OFF HEAVY ANAESTHETICS REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>382738001
Hopefully they just put strength on tank accessories for fuck's sake.
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>>382737513
>copypasta time
Hey everyone, just dropping some information before the Omega Raid patch next week. These are what I've gathered from the translations sent to me, so I do not know how things will play out in the game itself.
Tanks:
The enmity generated of all tank stances have been increased.
Warrior's Shake It Off now restores HP on the successful removal of detrimental effects.
Dark Knight's Abyssal Drain's MP cost has been increased.
Paladin's Holy Spirit potency has been increased to 450.

Healers:
White Mage and Astrologian remain unchanged.
Scholar's Indomitability's potency has been increased to 500.

Ranged/Caster:
Bard, Black Mage, and Red Mage remain unchanged.
Machinist's Heated Slug Shot and Heated Split Shot's base potencies have been increased.
Summoner's Demi-Bahamut's visual appearance has been adjusted.

Melee:
Ninja, Monk, and Dragoon remain unchanged.
Samurai's Midare Setsugekka's potency has been reduced to 680.
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Why the fuck are you going to kick the healer because dps can't move markers and they die to puddles. Crossworld tells need to be a thing fucking fags
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>We butchered tank DPS by reverting that one good VIT change we did last expansion
>Now we're making it so that holding threat is braindead
what exactly are tanks supposed to be trying to do now
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>>382738309
>Summoner's Demi-Bahamut's visual appearance has been adjusted.
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>>382738309
thanks man
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>>382738353
Enjoy instant queues.
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>>382738309
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>>382738353
Tanks are just masochistic DPS
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>>382738309
>PLD gets buffed AGAIN
magical
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>tfw 70 DRG
feels good
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>>382738309
See this just has to be fake, those tank changes are so fucking asinine
>buff the strongest tank
>nerf one of the situational tanks niches
>give the weakest tank a """"buff""""" that doesn't do anything
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>>382738309
so the healers will remain the same
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>>382738309
>DRK nerfs
>war/pld buffs
>didn't fix useless mch skills
>rip sam
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>>382738309
>PLD already top tank DPS
>buff them some more
why tho
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>>382738439
>yfw its bigger and even more annoying
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>>382738521
that sounds more like there's gonna be a bigger nerf behind it in my opinion, but that's fair I guess and I'm a PLD main since 2.0
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>>382738309
>Warrior's Shake It Off now restores HP on the successful removal of detrimental effects.

THIS IS NOT A FUCKING BUFF, THIS IS YOSHI THROWING US SCRAPS AND TELLING US TO BE GRATEFUL

FIX THE FUCKING JOB ITSELF NO ONE CARES ABOUT SHAKE IT OFF REGENING HP OH MY GOD
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>>382738439
Some people are actually complaining that Bahamut is too big. Maybe they will make him transparent to other players.
inb4 mini bahamut egi
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>>382738309
Can't say I expected groundbreaking changes but I'm still disappointed.
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>>382738707
There's nothing to fix, warbabby
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>>382738309
Am I the only tank who never has any problem with enmity?
I just use DA Power Slash at the start of the fight then never use it again.
Then again I only play in PUGs
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>>382738309
>The enmity generated of all tank stances have been increased.
Literally respect the content - the patch.
Why don't you just fucking remove the damage potency from tank skills, you fucking hack?
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>people even reading shit that's blatantly contradicted by the official post above let alone seriously replying to it
Fuck you niggers are dumb
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>>382739013
i usually do 3 DA'd threat combos at the start of an extreme primal, that does the trick. Dungeon bosses you can get away with 1 ez
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>he has a blackmage or samurai in his static
lmao you will never get good fflogs that way losers
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>>382739097
It still means less time in stance though once you get it built up.
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>>382739097
>REEEE WHY DO TANKS HAVE TO TANK
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>>382738309
>Dark Knight's Abyssal Drain's MP cost has been increased.
Fuck off with this shit. First they butcher Unleash and Dark Passenger, now this? Yoshi really wants people to play PLD, I guess.
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>>382739204
what the fuck, are you dumb? this means tanks can go back to mindless dpsing sooner since threat isn't a fucking problem any more
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>>382738309
>Samurai's Midare Setsugekka's potency has been reduced to 680.
Lel, shinten spam is betetr than midare anyway
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>>382739265
The dude is complaining that the enmity generation is only on tank stance instead of just increasing tank damage so they never even have to touch tank stance.
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>>382738309
I don't buy any of this.
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Can garleans see out of their 3rd eye?
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>randos cast heavy
ffxiv was a mistake
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>>382738309
>People believing this backwards shit
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So when is Shirogane unlocking?
I want my weeb house for my weeb job in my weeb expac.
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>>382738309
>The enmity generated of all tank stances have been increased.
already wrong, the jap post above said they're increasing the enmity generation in the hate combos and the pull skills
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>>382739702
4.1
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>>382739619
It doesn't even look like an eye, its just a jewel thing.
I'm expecting its what's keeping them from using Aether and magic or some shit.
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>>382738718
>some people
Pretty much everyone playing MDPS
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>>382739619
it looks more like some kind of bone growth out of their forehead than an actual eye
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>>382739637
It's so fucking stupid that it's the most believable leak.
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>>382739702
4+ months.
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/334166-Regarding-Balance-Adjustments-in-4.01-and-4.05?p=4263080#post4263080
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>>382739637
Based on that official post, we will only get enmity changes this week (other changes still are being tested, but they decided to release enmity in this patch because of the complaints), so we won't be able to confirm it this shit is real or not until the next live letter on July 15th (or 4.05, if Yoshida decides to be as vague as possible about the upcoming changes).
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>>382738309
>Samurai's Midare Setsugekka's potency has been reduced to 680.
>not mentioned in the chingchong text
:think:
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>>382739759
That would be pointless. The enmity issue stems mostly from AoE.
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>>382740502
>can't even use auto translate to read the post itself and find out that theres 0 actual balance changes in it
idiet
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Will the pf instances for the ex primals go extinct tomorrow?

I can't seem to clear Susano after the 90ks and scrubs killing everyone with lightning and going into enrage.
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>>382740502
There is no actual numbers is mentioned in Yoshida's post, he is just talking about upcoming change in hid usual "please look forward to it" way.
We will only get actual info on the next live letter.
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>>382740809
People still want dogs, but everyone will be grinding Omega normal mode for the rest of the week, so yeah it will be dead for a while.
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>>382740809
I swear to god I don't know what groups you guys are joining, I see so much complaining, especially about Susan. He's probably easier than Lakshmeme.
>join a duty completion group
>everyones watched a video and understands that we'll wipe a few times
>after 4 wipes we get him down
>everyone congratulates each other and parts ways
>join nothing but 310 duty complete groups from there on in, wipe maybe twice in 50 odd kills
what are you all doing wrong
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Just missing caster pants, but cant be assed to grind anymore verity in this lag. I'll just wait for roulettes tomorrow. Did you guys manage to get your alt classes geared out? Didn't see a single mount drop while gearing either class.
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>never got Verity accessories because I planned to do EX Primals before Omega
>just leveled classes the entire time
Woops
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>>382731529
How am I supposed to know when I can't see what the rest of the outfit looks like.
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>>382740578
>That would be pointless.
Welcome to Final Fantasy 14
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Am I misreading the forum post or is everyone else, isn't it straight up mentioned that the threat changes are mostly for leveling/low level content?
Threat is never an issue in high level instances, but shit like sastasha is a nightmare as a new tank
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>>382740578
>Spam Flash/Abyssal Drain/Overpower
phew, that was horrible for a second there.
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>>382742016
*Steals aggro from you 2 seconds later as BLM or SAM* aahn
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Tanks sure are whiny, how about you use flash once or twice more per trash fight and keep a closer eye on the individual threat on the mobs.
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>>382741989
You are correct, we won't get actual balance changes until 4.05, and no actual info about it until live letter.
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>>382741989
It is if you play with good DPS.
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>>382731529
Warrior set looks better than fighter
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>>382738309
>DRG remained unchanged.

Well Yoshi can certainly go fuck himself by fucking over DRG with clunky Dragon sight and eye stacks
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I CAN'T BEAT THE FINAL BOSS

PEOPLE GOES FULL -180 IQ FOR THIS MOTHERFUCKER

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>it's a pld only spams eclipse and gets upset that you keep stealing aggro
>healer doesn't even care since bloodbath is easily keeping you alive
Why are tanks such shitters and why can't they out aggro death blossom
Inb4 tank reeeeeeeing about shadewalker, Im not wasting it on trash mobs when you need it for the boss, we all know you can't keep aggro there either
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can you tell me what is this hand gear
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>>382742540
Not at all, since the actually good DPS will be using their aggro reducing skills. Except maybe BLMs, but if they're going to flare dump, they should have Lucid just for the aggro dropping.
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>>382742912
BLM's not using lucid so I can dps more on bosses can fuck off. It's not like there's anything better to grab from the cross-role skills.
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>>382738535
no its not anon. and you know it
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>try to get in 50/60 roulette before maint
>get a bunch of newshits in KotL doing slow single pulls and a cumulative 600DPS
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>>382732058
>>382741679
It's just the sushi set with mhigger gloves and boots. I can't find a red for the gloves to match the red in the top so maybe different gloves that'll dye better idk
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>>382741224
>WHM 314
Spotted the pleb who'd rather use the susan ex weapon to show off his epeen than the perfect stats of the 310 weapon.
Some of the Lakshmi ex acc also suck dick, particularly the earrings (det/piety, lel)
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>>382743474
Show me what they look like in white and I will give my expert color coordination opinion.
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>>382743474
Maybe try stop being an ERPing faggot
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>>382736912

sup fellow Sargatanas bro
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>>382741114
I duno man, Lakshmi is literally hit Vril every time she uses a move with her chimichanga up, it's pretty fucking braindead easy. At least in Susano you have to think about positioning for a bit.
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>>382742905
Warrior af2?
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>>382729262
why is his penis so small?
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>>382738001
>>382736534
>people complaining about queue times
>make tanks even less fun
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>>382743609
I went straight from 290 weapon to Susan. Not gonna farm more verity just for stat upgrades that will ultimately make no difference at all.
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>>382744046
I guess that's ok then, 310 weap is still better though.
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Is there any way to do synched Second Coil of Bahamut, or am I wasting my time?
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>>382738001
Do you have any more of the kelly edits
I love these
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>>382743897
nah dude its different
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>>382743765
The default coloring is the only white that kind of matches but the teal thing screws it up
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>>382744193
I will agree that the stat priorities on nearly all the 310 gear is complete ass though. Piety is even more useless now than before. I'm glad that most of the caster gear is actually decent stat-wise.
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>go look on OF to see if there's anything about patch
>get people crying about CM in 2017
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Lakshitty and Shinryu have WAY more mechanics than Susanoo but people clear them handily simply because there's barely any damage coming out. Looks like you can tilt everybody just by making things that one/two shot you.
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>>382744463
Hopefully omega gear won't have retarded stats.
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>Friend joins Emnation EX party
>tells me how terrible they are
>they reach enrage at 29% (TWENTY NINE PERCENT)
>instead of continuing progress they stop at 30 minutes to /gpose and take screenshots

How the fuck are people so shitty at the easiest EX primals we've gotten so far?
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>>382744554
>implying shitters can clear Shinryu
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What the deal with most DPS not knowing how to play their fucking job at level 70? Like even dumbing down most jobs with SB there are still so many shit DPS.
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>>382744554
I can't believe lakshmi's ultimate just doesn't do ANYTHING if you use vril. I think they overestimated the difficulty of killing the adds. If they made that the way you have to refill vril a second time while she's still on the field casting everything but the OT mechanic I think it'd be more fun
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>>382736659
>people were but ching
The only retard here is you for being phoneposting cretin
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>>382744554
>Laksh
>more mechanics than susan
Surely, you mean on normal.
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>>382744692
Because there are no roadblocks in the game which prevent a shitty DPS player from advancing. You can literally be dead 100% of the time and still clear all story content just from other people picking up the slack.
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>>382735750
are you fucking retarded?
shut the hell up
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You people should have done the ex primals last week where people with a brain were still trying to get a clear. All that's left now are brain dead retards and netflix healers. I feel sorry for you all.
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>>382744692
PotD 1-60
pvp 60-70
>>382744248
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>>382744692
The average player does not know how to play their role but thanks to the awful queues people put up with shitty tanks and healers far too often.
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>weebs cannot contain themselves in their general.
>Make veiled threads on /v/.
>"B-But they are avatar cat faggots!"

Yeah your whole fanbase is trash and you all are exactly what you hate in that general for playing this game.
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>>382736912
>Sarg

Sup bro, I was there for that and had no issues.
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>>382744819
It's not like healers can't progress all the way to end game raiding by just being present for 30% of the dungeon/fight and cast heals now and then.
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>>382744909
Clearly you've never seen the general, though some avatar/fashion fags have been spilling their shit in recent /v/ thread.
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>>382736912
lmao i can see myself in this screenshot, neat
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>got kicked right as Ixion spawned
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>>382736912
Surprised Rou Rou is still on Sarg. Isn't the player a brit?
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>>382744985
That's still more than what is required of a DPS (nothing). It's also an exaggeration, most dungeon or boss fights fall apart pretty quickly if the healer just isn't there, unless there's another party member or two with enough awareness to take over.

I've seen literal bots that do nothing but run in circles and cast Fire 1 clear Final Steps of Faith. There are no roadblocks in this game at all.
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http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/c7000a2c3090615aa23cbf5529691b3fadfb35e5
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>guys I can fix DPS queues by letting tank DPS be used for other classes
>but how will I learn how to play my DPS class?
>don't worry I still do lots of PotD
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>>382727213
original WoW community was great, its when it started getting popular at the end of WotLK that everything went downhill
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>>382744764
It's because she's a summon from FFVI that healed you with her attack.
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>>382744692
Jump potions and wowfugees
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>>382744764
>I think they overestimated the difficulty of killing the adds
People can't do this without healer spamming cure2 because tank can't hold aggro and dps keep killing adds out of habit.

but aside from that, Most Primal's limit break are useless and is only there to serve as cinematic effect or dps check. the main point of the fight is phase two.
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>>382745435
>Savage Blade
>not Halone
Did they seriously decide to try and fix Sastasha just now
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>>382745516
Anon this has been a problem since ARR. Thornmarch EX being one of the worst offenders.
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>>382745435
>Buff NIN
>Nothing for MCH or DRG
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>>382745435
The following adjustments and changes have been made to PvP encounters:

Class/Job EXP gained from participating in PvP encounters has been adjusted to take match durations into account.
Victories and losses will now award different amounts of EXP.
Yoshi is at it again.
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>>382744692
If they didn't use AoEs before they aren't going to suddenly use AoEs now.
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>>382745435
>DRK got a dps buff alongside all the enmity increases
hooray!
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>>382745435
>drk buffs
war now in the shed forever
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>>382745765
Maybe it'll motivate the afkers, just a little.
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>>382745541
Susan's limit break is kinda cool.
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>>382743863
Lakshmi Vril mechanic is ok, but they just need to ramp up the difficulty by adding more item options than just one vril, and Each items have different effect and have to be coordinated with multiple different aoe and debuff.
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>>382745435
>still that piece of shit Alexander loot system
Oh boy i can't wait to run O2 six thousand times with the entire party needing on every drop to get an item that matches what I got in O1
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They're nerfing pvp exp so you actually have to win now. Bye bye bots.
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>>382745891
I did Kael in TBC. I don't feel like doing more fights with items and effects.
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>>382745435
HNNGGGGGGGG
GARLEAN ROBOT MOUNT
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>>382745843
DRK is already in last place. 20 more potency on a move they use maybe 4-5 times a minute is nothing.
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>>382738309
>all they did to MCH was just increase damage on two of their skills
>doesn't actually do anything about why MCH is fucking garbage.
Fuck this shit. I'm buying a leveling potion for bard.
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>>382746012
DRK was already well ahead of WAR in terms of utility, and they got another buff. WAR is /literally/ the 3.0 PLD of stormblood
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"An issue wherein the PvE action Bhavacakra dealt physical damage." Was this fix a nerf or a buff?
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>>382745435
>Attributes have been adjusted for certain gear.
It'd be hilarious if they removed str form 270 acc.
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>>382746000
>OG Magitek armor mount
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>>382746080
its fake you fucking idiot
they didn't actually buff MCH in any way whatsoever LMFAO
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>>382745541
>Regen on tank gets all the adds agro when they spawn
>Pop lucid dreaming and stop using all actions
>Still have aggro
Do people's tank instincts just go out the window for that phase
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>>382740260
>would lead to inflated HP values
>tanks are supposed to equip accessories that increase their vitality
>they'll have inflated HP values anyway, only while also being boring as fuck
This man absolutely needs to be replaced.
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>>382745678
I think it's because the NIN skill was dealing physical damage when it wasn't supposed to
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>buffing Nin
you fools
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It's a really easy fight but I like the ideas in Lakers EX a lot. The aoes are different every time depending on your party composition or just each targeted person's whim; there is room for optimization by purposefully popping Vril before eating avoidable/stackable damage; the add phase isn't a mindless SLAY EVERYTHING, and even if you fuck up you can save a portion of your party instead of "everyone takes a huge ass chunk of damage and might or might not die if they aren't a tank".
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>>382746012
>wars literally clinging to "muh dps" like it matters
You bring what, 50 more points on your best day and 0 utility, why would anyone ever play war still
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>>382746446
So it's technically a 50 potency nerf because it doesn't benefit from slashing buff anymore, I think.
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>>382745435
>Enmity effect has been increased.
lol
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>>382746487
holy fug
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>>382746546
It seems like it will end up being a neutral amount of DPS.
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>>382746369
If what you find fun with Tanks is reducing your own survivability for more damage then perhaps dps is the role for you?
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I dont know what I expected but these patches are just like HW. I think its worth unsubbing till like 4.3 again...
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>>382729513
Good, I'm not in a dungeon to talk and make friends I want to get in and get out.
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>>382746546
It's a 5 potency nerf if it's true
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>>382746650
t. butthurt mch/war/sum/sch etc etc etc
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>>382746546
More like a 5 potency nerf. 550 +10% = 605. Now it's 600 but magic.

Also means though that it's not affected by physical damage buffs like Embolden or Radiant Shield, but is affected by magic damage buffs like Contagion.
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>>382740260
>Nothing about healers
SCH status: forever condemned to the cuckshed.
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>>382744769
Great rebuttal you completely blew my argument out of the water.
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>>382746650
well of course, the game is meant to be played seasonally not daily. It's the right way to play mmo
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>>382729513
Why do you want marks? I have eyes. I can see the enemy the tank starts out on when pulling. Retard dps will dps whatever they can regardless of whether you mark or not.
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>>382746752
SCH is still highest healer DPS and brings Chain Stratagem.
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>make my character the big guy race
>everyone I see is either a cat girl or a midget
Trying not to exaggerate but its almost all I see
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>>382746624
What I find 'fun' in tanks is being able to contribute beyond using my enmity combo twice and then falling asleep.
>we're going to keep tweaking enmity values every patch instead of JUST GIVING TANKS STR ON THEIR ACCESSORIES OR BETTER YET GIVING THEM VITALITY TO DAMAGE HOLY DUMB FUCK YOSHI YOU INCOMPETENT.
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>>382740260
>For instance, dragoon can greatly increase party members' damage, but deals less solo damage than samurai. In contrast, samurai boasts high solo damage, but cannot do much to increase party damage.
nigga what the fuck dragoon does garbage damage and does not make up for a sam doing 1k+ over a dragoon. battle litany/dragon sight/piercing debuff does not make up for this shit and you get to have fun building your eyes for 1-2 minutes only to have the boss jump and fuck you over meanwhile same just presses their light up buttons and shits out mad damage by being as braindead as mnk holy fuck im mad
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>>382746650
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>>382746826
but anon if you work real hard you might be able to do 60 dps instead of 50 dps isn't that rewarding anon its that cool
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>>382746819
WHM outdoes it in DPS and any non-heal utility is laughable next to Balance
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>>382746725
>>382746679
>>382746620
redditfags are saying NIN poison trait is phys damage only, and tooltip is mistranslated. This true?
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>>382745765
Glad I was able to bot 7 classes to 70. Knew this shit was coming.
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>>382746824
I like big guys and small girls (not potatoes, fuck that) but if I HAD to spend 1k hours looking at something, I prefer the latter
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>The location and behavior of certain enemies has been adjusted.
This better fix those stupid fucking trees in the first area
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>>382746936
I don't know but I've noticed Raiton is doing considerably more damage than Fuma after the expansion when they were pretty much even before, and that's pretty much the only metric I can think of
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>>382746487
Not a buff. Keep looking. They changed it from physical to magical so it no longer benefits from slashing.
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>>382746916
>WHM outdoes it in DPS
Try again.
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>>382746824
catgirls and lizardgirls are by far the most popular and always see them around.
I know the graphs of populations always say Hyur are ridiculously high, but besides the occasional midlander girl they seem pretty rare in a sea of cats and lizards.
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>>382746936
It used to be phys only, I think it's been changed to now apply to all damage.
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>>382746891
Then why does he have weeklies instead of steadily increasing your tome and raid gear cap? You can't do endgame by casually playing since ilvls to find a party is changing every week.
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>make brd even better by fixing that stupid ass bug
>leave mch alone entirely
>the class that gets kicked in PF extreme trials constantly
t-thanks yoshi p
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>>382747129
You must be blind then, I see midlander girls everywhere. They're slightly less numerous than cats or lizards but they're pretty much the go-to snowflake race now
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>wait half a day for ixion
>finish entire season of anime
>Ixion popped up
>the whole area crash within a minute
>cant see shit
>got silver medal and only one horn.
I want to kill these fags so much, especially those who already have mount and still barge in.
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>>382747110
Wow, a whole 120 DPS, and all you had to trade was your heal potencies and MP costs
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>>382747110
The max is what matters. People are still in the mindset of catering to a SCH and letting it pretend to be a DPS. This will soon shift to AST doing that for WHM.
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>>382747129
The graphs never seem to account for bots so hyur numbers are inflated
I feel like a special snowflake walking through a town and being the only male midlander
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Why does getting Scholars in dungeons feel like I'm running the Vault with HW launch AST's?
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Which tank class should I level up, PLD or DRK?
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>Victories and losses will now award different amounts of EXP.
REEEEEEEE I don't want any angry autists in my pvp
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>skill speed samurai
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>>382746840
Why do you kids all think you know how to play a level 70 Samurai because you played it at level 50 once?

>>382747110
>all this meming about Balance
>turns out AST does complete dogshit personal damage in exchange
Damn I've been memed on leveling it. I was never going to raid heal any time soon and it's way more reliable to have high personal DPS than hope DF gives you someone worth buffing.
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>>382725787
>Is XIV the Evangelion of MMOs?

ya know, I consider myself pretty fucking autistic and even I don't know what the FUCK I'm supposed to glean from this question
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>>382747276
>graphs never seem to account for bots
They do, active player counts don't count bots.
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>>382745435
>Victories and losses will now award different amounts of EXP.

Thank fucking goodness
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>>382747110
G fucking G proving yourself wrong.
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>>382747326
We're trying our best, anon.
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>>382747365
>The following adjustments and changes have been made to PvP encounters:

>Class/Job EXP gained from participating in PvP encounters has been adjusted to take match durations into account.
Victories and losses will now award different amounts of EXP.

FRONTLINES ARE SAVED
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>>382747243
Same with fox lady. I just wanted the minion.
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>>382747359
PLD if you want to be flavour of the month and really OP and get into every group, DRK if you also want to get into groups but don't want to be seen as metaswapping FOTM scum

>>382747368
isn't SS literally the worst stat for SAM
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>>382745765
Well I'm dropping PvP like a hot potato if the XP is nerfed. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeet fucked.
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>>382747256
Nice backpedaling, but SCH still also brings chain stratagem which contributes significantly more DPS, unless you're just arguing that the meta will be AST/AST in which case WHM is fucked too.

>>382747274
No, the damage done by the top 10 players of a job in the entire fucking world does not really matter compared to the average, unless your static happens to be fielding one of these top 10 players.

Parse autism is like a disease.
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>>382747326
Christ I know right. I can't even chain pull two packs in dungeons with scholars successfully, despite using every CD I have I WILL die. It's infuriating, stop queueing SCHs or sort your shit out the dungeons are taking forever now
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>>382747539
Kasha combo already gives us a speed buff so yeah.
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>>382747368
>have a lot of skill speed
>get 3sen 6 seconds before hagakure comes back
>awkward yaten+enpi or mechanic handling until I get my conversion
so what's a good skill speed for this job
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who else still cant even do Alex savage
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>>382747394
Balance is not a meme, it's literally Trick Attack that lasts 3 times as long, AND AST is still better at healing than SCH
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>>382747503
It's pretty shit, also you get enough tokens with gold to buy everything available.
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>>382747539
I don't see why, Samurai has infinite TP on single target and doesn't line up with its only DoT anyways
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>>382747617
Never even tried it. I don't see the appeal of savage fights.
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>>382747630
>Scholar
LMAO we're talking about WHM dude. I should have stayed true to my dream of Holy spamming.
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>>382747647
I've heard it knocks your buff rotation out of whack or something since you already have the speed buff built into the class, I don't really know the justification its just what I've heard.
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>>382747732
I doubt it, you're clipping buffs all the time just because of the Sen rotation and in the cases where it's close I'm usually like a second late, but then again I'm a shitter.
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>>382747647
Cooldowns start to line up awkwardly and we already have a built in speed up buff.
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>>382747724
We were talking about how SCH is/is not fucked, you retard
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>>382747539
Will DRK be too edgy if I'm playing as a male mooncat?
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>>382747896
DRK class quests double down on the edge to the point that its comical, even as an edgy male aura i feel less edgy than the quests
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>>382747858
Well I'm not fuck you.
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so if pvp is based on win/loss and say a loss gave half the exp it gives now, how the fuck would you level a dps then? fate grinding sounds awful and dungeon queues are way too long, but depending on your teammates to not be retarded and feed sounds dreadful
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>>382747630
Those who play AST just for the buff and special treatment are just wasted potential imo. If you dont play AST for raid or already have a very concrete party to go with, you're not allowing ASt to be use at full potential. Throwing buff here and there doesnt really make any different to those who doesnt put in the effort, especially in DF and farm. WHM is the better choice for casual since every skill it has right now come in convenience as fuck.
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>>382748130
What if losing keeps the same xp you get now and winning gives you 1.5x or something
that'd be a hell of a fuckin incentive, we don't know for sure that they're nerfing the xp for a loss, only that they're "changing" it. that COULD mean they're leaving lose xp untouched and increasing win xp
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>>382748130

They removed the only incentive for doing PvP aside for pfffft, fun
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>>382745435
>Troubadour Now effects both self and nearby party members
>effects
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>>382748229
what kind of loser plays games to have fun
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>>382735398
>No 忍者
Fucking lit
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>>382748229
>fun
What's that?
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Literally everything in the expansion is derivative of WoW. It's like MoP in reverse. You start in A;a Mhigo and then go to weebland.

>Sirensong Sea is a rip-off of Maw of Souls
>Shinsui of the Violet Tidesis a rip-off of Throne of Tides
>Doma Castle is a rip-off of Mogu'shan Palace
>Ala Mhigo is a rip-off of Lost City of the Tol'vir
>Kugane Castle is Temple of the Jade Serpent
>Temple of the Fist is Shado-Pan Temple
>The Ruby Sea is just Vashj'ir

And all the mechanical changes the made make it more like WoW, plus the other changes make it like what XIV-babys always complained about in WoW:

>Paid boost and story completion potions
>Massive job homogenization
>Massive ability pruning
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>>382748269
>>382748306
I dont know. I seemed to have had a glimpse of it in my first 2 matches. Now I just yell at people to go to flag on /alliance
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>>382748379
not a single one of those dungeon comparisons is close to accurate and i've played all of the wow and ff14 dungeons listed
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>>382747394
Balance is also rng outside the opener so the memeing was always retarded, it's the only strong nonsituational card out of six. In practice, you're completely subject to the whims of fate and you aren't pumping out 10/20% damage buff to the entire group's damage for the whole encounter at all like everyone seems to think when discussing the "OP"ness of the card
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>>382748219
thatd be fucking amazing and hopefully encourages people to actually try instead of afk/feed, but I just have a bad feeling they're gonna reduce the exp on loss
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>>382747539
>>382747732
fuck that, skill speed is always the funnest stat and all samurais should go HAYAI
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>>382748379
jobs aren't homogenized and hotbars aren't literally 3 buttons
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>>382748229
Jokes on you, I play PvP for wolf marks.
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>>382748379
I dont know anon, but you seem to have """"""really"""" love Wow. Surely, your soul isn't bounded inside wow world?
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>>382748379
>place inspired by real life is similar to place inspired by same real life place

Even then none of them are that similar aside from general theme.
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>>382748604
the fuck do you even do with them? I stopped having a use for them ages ago
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>>382748604

Oh shit nigga! I forgot I can now get the Cheerleader minion!!!
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>>382748675
I like GARO so I play it for that stuff with fun on the side.
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>>382748675
If only you knew. There is a way to make some good money behind buying the gear.
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>>382748568
you're right, they're 4 buttons.
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>>382748835
what? but almost nothing is tradeable
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>>382748835
Desynthing?
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>>382748846
t. lv.15 miner
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>>382748219
This is what I hope for, but I know that it's too good to be true, and so not happening.
We're getting half, three quarters and full exp for 3rd, 2nd and 1st respectively.
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>>382748846
i have 33 unique abilities on my current classes ui
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>>382748947
Yep.
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/44e2c8922191e2c2fcf1675a0a93ad3d3480e963

the wowcucks are at it again lads
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There's zero chance Omega's OST will be as good as Alex's, right? It's going to go back to bombastic fantasy coil shit instead of Soken's Wild Ride?
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>>382749226
>hit NA during EA
>hit EU during official launch
>suddenly getting hit right before a raid drops
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>>382749412
muffled j-pop in the distance
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>>382749412
I didn't like Alex's music
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Finally got 314ilvl tank gear. What should I be melding it with?
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>>382749412
Moebius is underrated
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>>382749717

I'd swap out 2-3 VIT accessories for i270 STR accs melded with VIT V
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>>382749717
direct hit if you're a DRK
not sure about the others
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>>382739231
my thoughts exactly!
yoshida needs to fuck off that blm shit and main drk and then he'll realise what he did to the cool tank class

fucking hack
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>>382749818

But other then that go crit and direct hit, tenacity isn't really worth going for.
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>>382749858
DRK got a buff in the next patch you idiot, stop reading fake patch notes
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>5 hour maintenance

for what fucking purpose? all you are adding is 4 bosses for shiters. fuck this company.
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>>382750041
servers have been shitting themselves
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>>382745765
FUCK YOSHI PEEEEEE
WHY
CANT
WE
HAVE
GOOD
THINGS!
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>>382750164
Because bots ruined it for you.
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>>382750041
go outside and go for a walk you fat weeb loser
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So, the youngest Fortemps son. Hes totally having his boy-servant service him nightly right?
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>need to kill ixion 6 times at a gold rating for the mount
>ixion dies approximately 13 seconds after spawning since half the server camps his spawn all day
what the fuck is thi
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>>382736912
What the fuck is that hotbar?
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>>382750820
Don't even know why people want it, the mount is fucking ugly. Looks like a pony on steroids. Those fucking legs, that fucking neck.
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>>382750858
got a problem with my UI kid
its functional
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>>382750924
I've got 2 horns and now I feel the need to get the full set. Its taking up inventory space ree
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>buff for nin and I guess bard
Ok so samurai is untouched?

Like a took a look at Yoshi's post and it seemed like he was justifying samurai's damage being high because, as a contrast to dragoon for example, it brings almost no support. It sounded like Yoshi was really defending SAM.
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>>382746774
He did, all phoneposters should be hanged
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>>382751034
I like how DRG is getting their panties in a bunch over SAM when other selfish dps like BLM also has damage out of the ass
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>>382750924
It's really shit but people are shallow to the point they want it not because it's a likeable mount, but because they want to boast about having it.
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>>382751034
It's not a buff for NIN because Baklava does magic damage now meaning it's unaffected by the slashing debuff.
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>>382750924
>manlet ixion
>>382751140
Only to boast about is not crashing the server when it spawns.
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>>382751034

Okay, so lets say they nerfed SAM's potencies to be along the same line as the other melee dps. Literally why would you ever bring a SAM to anything ever?
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>3 FFXIV threads up near bump limit
>lol why do mods delete our threads?
Really casts my Curaga's
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Tell me how this expac features Monk in the opening
Yet its the worst out of the DPS classes!
The FUCK was Yoshida thinking? Is he REALLY a hack? Who could make 14 good again?
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>>382751140
Not much to boast about when half the server is camping it 24/7. There's really no mount in the game that I see and think "wow that dude worked hard for that".
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>>382751269
Where are the other 2?
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>>382750924
>>382751140
I fixed it
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I would play XIV if it was open world, had better character cusomization, less ugly and boring environments, a non snail gcd, and a way to customize class builds.
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>>382751269
well we aren't allowed to outright make a thread that says "hey /v/ wanna talk about ffxiv" so we have to get fucking obtuse about it and people are too retarded to realise this isn't a wow vs ffxiv thread its just an ffxiv thread so they make ANOTHER thread for xiv but hide it under the pretence that its disscussing ff5
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I would play XIV if it was a bullet hell game.
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>>382751553
>obtuse
This thread is hardly subtle at all
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>>382751335
Now it just looks like a horse.
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>>382751518
Unironically console limitations. Please understand.
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>>382751290
It's not the worst, that's dragoon. Doesn't matter anyway since the two weeb DPS blow both out of the water and invalidate them.
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>>382751251
That argument would be valid if they didn't do exactly that with MNK in the past. You had 0 reason to bring one because it had 0 utility and the damage wasn't even higher than others.

They have been that stupid once, they can be that stupid again.
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>>382751634
no you don't understand anon flamewar baiting is a perfectly legitimate thread topic whereas discussing a game isn't
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Lore nerds, which game has objectively better lore?

I know for a fact that WoW's lore went to shit around cata and up or mists and up, but how is it for XIV?
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>>382751839
its alright
nothing crazy but its still entertaining
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>>382751732

>Want SAM to be nerfed
>Why would you bring a SAM if they did that?
>They were retarded before, they can be retarded again

So you admit it's fucking retarded but still whine about their output? Are you some drg idiot or something?
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>>382751661
i feel like thats an improvment over a shetland pony
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>>382751839
MMOs cannot tell stories, both are absolute garbage tier.
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>>382752167
Ok, but which is less garbage?
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>>382752043
>Want SAM to be nerfed
Sure thing. Except for the fact I don't and I main SAM. Take your autism meds and you probably won't jump to conclusions like that out of nowhere and then get mad about things that are only in your head.
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>>382752167
ffxiv has objectively proven this wrong
the lore in ffxiv isn't the most interesting thing in the world, but the stories told within the context of that lore are really neat.
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>>382725787
It's because both are made with the same audience in mind - casuals. Other western MMORPGs like EVE Online are dying as well due to becoming more casual.
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>>382751518
go play eso then. or black desert.
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>>382752281
Maybe don't make dumb nonsense posts
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>>382752330
>but the stories told within the context of that lore are really neat
No they're mostly shit with occasional decent highs. More importantly the story in XIV actively contradicts the game being an MMO and would be better suited for a book, a movie or a single-player game. Single-player MMO story is an oxymoron and people who are wowed by simply have their standards set hella low, which I guess you can't blame them for given how every other FF game for many years has been utter dog shit
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>>382752524
Its a classic final fantasy story. If you can't let yourself run with it and just have fun then I feel bad for you, because its a nice experience.
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How to fix DRG, BRD and MCH
>Disembowel to 10-15% from 5%.
>Fix the awful grind Life of the Dragon is.
>Wow suddenly people are playing those classes again.
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>>382752478
There is nothing nonsesical about my post. The argument really is invalid because SE has literally been that dumb in the past and they have the potential to be so again. That's just the way it is.

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>382752423
I'd rather suck a dick.
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>>382752715
>How to fix DRG, BRD and MCH
>proposes nothing for MCH
??
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>>382752619
It's a lot of padding and cutscenes detached from gameplay. I don't really have fun being a bitch boy of these mostly asinine characters. Like I said it has its moments - anything with Thordan, Xaela's hunger games, Final Steps, but as a whole package it's just really lackluster and is 90% juxtaposed with the most brainless gameplay to ever exist.
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>>382752715
Are you retarded?
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>>382752740
The argument isn't invalid because IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT YOU FUCKING RETARD AUTIST.
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>>382752769
MCH does no damage.
Also remove overheating.
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>no trailer for Omega
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>382747104
>>382746487

or poison
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>Omega releasing
>Have shit RNG
>Know I'll have to run each turn at least 5 times before I finally get what i need
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>>382735398
MNK back on top

feels good to be king again
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>>382753273
MNK had no changes though??
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>>382753273
>MNK not cucked into oblivion by SAM
They literally stole your role as high dps no utility.
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>>382752715
Why the fuck did they nerf disembowel to begin with?
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>>382753273
How? Doesn't NIN do more damage and give better utility? And doesn't SAM ravage DPS regardless of the puny raid buff brotherhood gives?
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>>382753228
5 isn't even bad considering you could easily have a 1/8 chance on every clear if you aren't lucky enough to be partied with people specifically trying to get something else. Needing an average of 40 runs a week to gear from it when shitters could barely clear A4 was one of the reasons I all but dropped HW.
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>>382735565
>>382735651
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>>382753005
>IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT YOU FUCKING RETARD AUTIST.
Holy shit you really didn't take your meds, I was just joking before. Go take it senpai.

Of course it has to do with it because we are talking about the same exact hypothetical scenario: a job that would have only average damage, 0 utility and people wouldn't have a reason to bring on groups. So yes, it's related.
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>>382753407
I don't think they even know.
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>>382753407
So that BRD/MCH damage wasn't as dependent on having a DRG in the party.

I guess they forgot to buff BRD/MCH's base damage to compensate though.
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>>382753632
>DRG is supposed to be the utility melee
>Let's nerf its utility
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>>382746119
Paired with the potency increase it got, it probably evens out, unless it for some reason counted as slashing physical, in which case this would be a nerf.
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>>382753601
His argument was about whether SAM was justified in having high damage, not whether SE is dumb enough to nerf it anyways.

Retard fuck.
>>
how to spot a shitter:

suncat
fox ears
shisui glamour
all of the above together.
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>>382753745
BRD's damage is fine. They can freely move and lose nothing and they have no cast times now. It's MCH that needs help.
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>>382738309
>Summoner's Demi-Bahamut's visual appearance has been adjusted.

>Finally, FINALLY gave summoner a big-dick summon that feels POWERFUL, what summoners have been asking for since the game's inception
>Instantly take it away and probably reduce its size by 50%

I'm so done with this piece of shit game.
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>>382754043
Even with free movement they are both still the bottom two DPS unless upcoming Omega fights have HEAVY movement requirements.
>>
Let bard benefit from battle voice and increase chance to proc straighter shot
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>>382754117
>If a summons were huge they'd probably block everyone's view which is bad in this game that's a lot more fastpaced than FF11
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I WANT SUMMONS REEEE
>Bahamut comes out
>It does block people's view

Wow what a shocker
>>
>>382754117
>literally getting mad at fake patch notes
based retard kun
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>>382754117
Because the WoWfags are screaming to turn SMN back into a warlock ripoff
>>
BRDs are really cocky as fuck in pvp now. They always seem to be as aggressive as possible even if it gets them killed.
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>>382753984
- Lalafell
- Cait Sith ears
- Meme name
- Lore friendly name
- Especially if they choose "Nuhn"
- Mentor crown of any variant
- RP icon
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>>382753984
>Hyur sch with fox ears, shisui top and 64 skirt
>They're a good healer but they add ~ or ! to everything
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>>382738309
>As VIT also influences HP, however, adjusting it is liable to lead to HP inflation
What the fuck does this even mean? It's not like VIT isn't capped on every item a tank wears already.
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>>382753870
His argument was if they nerfed it, there would be no reason to bring one, which does not change the fact that it's possible to happen and has already happened in the past.

Then later his argument was some made up shit about me wanting SAM to be nerfed and triggered him into rage which was very awkward because he threw a fit over something that was only in his head.
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>>382753984
Male cat. They are all so fucking awful
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>>382737440
one 51-60 potd at that level gives you around 75% of a level.
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>>382754371
>which does not change the fact that it's possible to happen and has already happened in the past.
Which is still not relevant to anything and sure as fuck doesn't invalidate an unrelated argument, retard kid.
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>>382754293
>literally anyone who didn't make a Roegadyn and slide swoleness and height to maximum
manlets, all of you
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>>382754363
every time i reread that paragraph it makes less sense
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>>382754521
Don't you have some Bowser porn to jack off to?
>>
>>382753984
Female midlander
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>>382750164
its shit game design. be rewarded for not even trying ???. it also completely killed fate grinding.
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>>382754521
do you enjoy people assuming you're a bara homosexual?
>>
>>382754214
But it's so sick tho

Get a SMN to 70 and you'll realize how fun it is swinging giant dragon dick everywhere is
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>>382753984
Using a story title.
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>>382731529
Always do neutrals for pants. This applies to games and life.
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>>382754336
>not liking good heal sluts
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>>382754775
What are some acceptable titles /veee/?
I use keymaster because I like it and you have to put at least some kind of effort into something people dont normally do to get it
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>>382754293
Lore friendly names are fine, and are only embarrassing for suncat males, which just rolls conveniently right into being a suncat being embarrassing.
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>>382754117
>I want my giant obnoxious summon to take up 3/4th of everyone's screen yeah it's very annoying for them but I get to feel cool fuck my party dragunz!!! XD

Imagine, seriously for a sec just imagine, being this much of a dickhead

Unreal
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>>382754831
It's not that I don't like them. Admittedly they did have a pretty cute character. Shrine maiden-esque. It's just kind of jarring seeing ~ whenever their name pops up in chat.
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>>382754850
Anything that requires some effort without resorting to botting. I like Slaughterhouse and Hand of mercy since it usually means they get some kills in pvp.
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>>382754850
I use The Trinity since it sounds cool, works for any job/activity, and is relatively uncommon since you need to be a Triple Triad autist to get it.
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>>382754874
The Lala "lalato lala" type ones are the worst sign of shitters ever.

With Nuhn/Tia, it's like pretending you're not a little bitch boy or admitting that you are one. Either way, you're a bitch boy.
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>>382752167
TSW story is great
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>>382754850
I like Archmage.

Grandmaster of Magic is too wordy and God(dess) of Magic is too edgy.
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>English
>Omega
>Omega (Savage)

>Japanese
>Omega (Normal)
>Omega
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>>382754850
The Fistful
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>>382755093
I don't see many lore-friendly lalafells around, since they tend to fall pretty squarely into the memester camp, are they really that universally shitty?
>>
>>382755224
Sounds like a gay porn title.
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>>382755093

hellsguard roe names are awesome imo
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>>382755225
Yes. The only reason people play Lalafells is because they think they are being ironically funny by playing a tiny potato child who is actually a big powerful hero.
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>Omega soundtrack is literally just FF V battle, FFV boss battle, FFV final battle and FFV rift music

Heh
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>>382755303
Bonus points if youre a roe or highlander
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>A stick of bamboo added to the cash shop

People are actually going to buy this and Square-Enix will laugh all the way to the bank
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>>382754874
>Make a max brown suncat for fun
>ERP with anything that walks
>Play BRD like a shitter and die in several MSQ primal instakills
>Reach max level in HW and quit

I won at FFXIV, can you say the same
>>
>tfw just start playing this game
>discover there are not one, but TWO expansions
wellp i guess i'm in for the long haul
>>
Patch is up for DL btw
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>>382753984
hyur
roe
aura
>>
EXDEATH CONFIRMED
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>>382755408
I suppose that's true, my brother plays a Lalafell and he follows people around in town making the 'HAHAHA-HOIII' noise because he thinks he's annoying people. And of course laughs a lot during every cutscene because you can't take a lalafell hero seriously. When will lalafells be removed?
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>>382735398
>ッ
>_.........._
>..\_ッ_/
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>>382755620
My FC leader buys literally every cash shop item the second it comes out then models bye afking in front of the summoning board by the FC house. The dude is online like 12 hours a day, but he doesn't actually do anything except craft and sell shit. I think he plays at work too. I suspect this game is like, the only thing he does with his life.
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>>382755675
217mb or so btw
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CATASTROPHE ALSO CONFIRMED
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>>382755823
After they remove every other race.
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>>382755912
Depressing, honestly.
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>Bhavacakra Potency increased from 550 to 600.
Welp, does this officially put MNK in the cuckshed?
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>>382755912
Maybe he bots?
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>>382755947
no one curs for a small ass patch
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>>382754363
I guess it means they don't want HP to increase on the same curve as damage in 4.x, so if they tried to scale off of it to get the right attack strength there'd either be too little early on or too much late. Late HW HP values were fucking insane, I remember rolling into Sophia the first time like 10k below the main tank, and that contributed to being able to tank in DPS stance all the time.
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>crafted gear same item level as omega normal gear
Holy fuck I'm laffin
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>>382752416
top fucking kek you're dumb
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>>382756031
Go play FFV my man
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>>382755972
Changed to magic damage. Nin trait only affects physical damage.
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>>382756010
I don't think so. He's a competent player in the rare occasions he does content. Has every job at 60. I think he just has a really demanding real life job that takes up most of his time, and he plays XIV in this sort of "obsessive casual" way as his escape.
>>
https://mega.nz/#!GIsgyQjA!XtWXW4JW3WYaXnkccTxrV_DisVDKb_aUvb_VMoS0zWk

Music
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>>382755972
Read the bug-fix also relating to Bhavacakra. It's either a nerf or evens out to the same damage as before, probably the latter.
>>
>rewatching the ARR cinematic
it's amazing the world even managed to survive the clusterfuck that was Bahamut, everything looks like it got blown the fuck up.
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>>382725787
>Bahamut
>destroying anything

He was a fucking clown bitch to Alexander.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7o2iOf8MWA

How the fuck did that faggot destroy the world? He was nothing to Cecil and friends with reflect magic.
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>>382756153
Poison traits were changed to affect all damage.
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>>382748379
No. The community was tired of having 21 different abilities to use while trying to enjoy content. Having 3 different 3 attack chains in two different positions is just fucking annoying. All while managing 3-4 different dots/self buffs on short timers.

Players asked for more challenging mechanics with trimmed down abilities so we are not staring at dot timers and waiting for procs and unable to even see what is happening with the fight.
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>Class/Job EXP gained from participating in PvP encounters has been adjusted to take match durations into account.
>Victories and losses will now award different amounts of EXP.

Are they really thinking that it will make people care even more about winning or something?
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>Bahamut destroys a world where it takes 5 people to beat a single goblin npc at a time
>Deathwing nearly destroys the world where people took down elemental lords and old gods for quests
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>>382756250
RIP monk, then.
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>>382746824
>Big blue raider man does less damage than tiny baby elf thing
What did they mean by this?
>>
>>382756408
People are gonna get mad fucking all the time in Frontlines now, this gonna be great.
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>New Optional ItemS
>one item
?
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>>382756408
Unless it's a massive nerf for losing all this means is that it'll take slightly longer to bot a class to 70. Luckily I'm twin adder so I'll just turn freelance off and continue to bot.
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>>382755823
I thought HAHAHAHA HOIIII and *lala orgasm* are just background noise in crowded areas?
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>>382756195
Thanks anon, guess that guy up above wasn't kidding about FFV. Thankfully FFV is my favorite mainline title so this activates my almonds pretty good.
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>>382756689
They use emote clips as part of the crowd noise tracks.
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>>382755954
jej
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>>382756195
Im not really impressed.
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>>382725787
>GCD is so long that FFXIVfags use it to shitpost on /v/
>>
>FFV music
>Ishgard
Well then no Alexander style raid music for anyone for two years then
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>>382729513
Nice revisionism faggot.
I played first month after release and it was nothing like that.
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>>382756460
>Old gods and elemental lords
>FFXIV literally has you slaying Gods for a job
Bahamut could pick Deathwing up and snap him in half. By closing his one dragon fist after grabbing him.
>>
>>382756880
Unsubscribed. Fuck you too soken
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>>382756880
>Ishgard
Ivalice fug
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>>382756802
You wanted a serious answer. Here's another one: they'll remove Mithra from FFXI before they'll remove Lalafell from FFXIV.
>>
so what did they change halicarnassus and twintania to
>>
>>382755225
Lalafells are the most powerful race, FACT.
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>>382745516
>wowfugees
>not looking up a rotation
>thinking roleplaying casual weebs aren't the problem
>>
>>382756953
don't respond to wowfags
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>>382725787
>furry-appealing
How, there's none of the furshit from IX, X or Ivalice and the planned dragon/etc races got scrapped because too much armor-work.

Also polls show weebs/otakus dominate the playercount.
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>>382756953
The scale of primal Bahamut is so insane. Shinryu is such a dragonlet by comparison too.
>>
>>382755912
Why are so many FC leaders like this?
>>
>>382755223
With how shit NA is at the game that's what you need to do in order to not hurt their feelings
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>>382757105
how big is shinryu
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>>382756953
Bahamut is still a small fry compared to others
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>>382756995
Twintania is unchanged
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>>382756880
I hope the relatively low effort put into these tracks means that the next section of Interdimensional Rift will have a different set of battle music (though keeping cfd0284a since it's the field music in the rift and it's great).
>>
>the royal meme
>immediately opens with Tidal Wave
>immediately wipes unprepared parties
I get it
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>>382735398
>Finally decide to main SAM after much deliberation with my FC
>It will be nerfed to the ground and literally become 3.0 MNK-tier of useless
>>
>>382736534
>>382736952
>time elapsed: 1:54:35:46:32
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>>382757345
>enjoying SAM because it's not an autistic music recital and the GCD is more invisible than ever with Shinten
>salty tears might pressure them into nerfing it
>or they might go full AST on it and buff it even more
I'll still play it regardless of what happens
>>
>>382757560
Me too, I've been playing healer since 3.0 and whatever happen with SAM I'll stick to it.
>>
>>382757273
I can't wait for groups to wipe to enrage in Omega normal because three DPS stood in Encircle at the beginning of the fight.
>>
>>382757345
they're not going to kill their new posterchild job, but it definitely needs to be toned down a bit. Don't you dare cry about SAM nerfs when shit like MCH went live
>>
How's NIN at 70? Getting kind of tired of MNK not sure if I should try out SAM or NIN next.
>>
>>382757636
Is the difference so noticeable or people are just crying for nothing?.
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>>382757560
Where it's at now in damage seems like where they want it to be, no utility but desirable anyways due to the damage difference - if anything they'll buff Dragoon to bring it up to where Monk and Ninja are already at rather than make Samurai useless.

>>382757645
I hear NIN's pretty fuckin great and the rotation flows really smoothly while also not having ridiculous losses to downtime like the Greased Lightning treated classes.
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>>382757735
Well, SAM damage is like 300 more DPS than MNK and 1k more DPS than MCH right now
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>>382757154
Small. About Deathwing size it seems.
>>382757105
Probably Nidhogg's fault.
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>>382757793
>300 over mnk
That's not so bad. If your data is correct then it sounds like the amount of whine is way more intense than it should be.
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Get fucking hyped
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>As VIT also influences HP, however, adjusting it is liable to lead to HP inflation, and so we have no plan to adopt this method at present. (VIT-based damage was deemed workable during 3.X and was employed in the interim.)
This is literally the stupidest thing I have ever read in my entire life
>we forced tanks to wear VIT accessories by locking accessories to certain jobs
>but we took away the damage bonus from VIT because it would cause HP inflation somehow
>even though we want tanks to wear full VIT accessories (therefore inflating HP) by forcing it with job locks
>but players are wearing STR accessories so now tanks have no HP because wearing VIT is useless unless you're dying
>but we're not going to fix this by going back to a system universally agreed upon to be better than this one
????
everything about this is so fucking confusing, this is even dumber than "when we added a tank and healer, tanks and healers didn't decrease in numbers, so adding no tanks and healers means tanks and healers won't decrease in number"
>>
>>382757105
>>382757846
probably more to do with all the meracydians kept in stasis in dalamud feeding bahamut aether for millenia vs shinryu is just some asshole an heroing with some eyeballs. and i guess killing a bunch of dudes too
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>>382758014
I dunno the music is just okay.
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>>382757645
You shit out damage and almost always have something coming of cool down to fire out in between your combo
If you're good only the best samurais will be better
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>>382758079
A good monk with passable RNG will be better too.
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>>382758079
You forgot to mention you need good latency to play it. Not to say good latency doesn't help every job, but it goes 5x more for NIN.
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>>382758027
see >>382756034 for the closest thing to a rational explanation I've seen for it.

Just 'we want to increase player damage output faster than VIT makes tanks' HP go up'
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>>382758137
>relying on rng
>good
Whew lad
>>
Bosses:
Alte Roite
Halicarnassus
Catastrophe
Exdeath
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>>382758249
>I don't understand PPM or statistics
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>>382758068
Post music?
>>
>>382758249
I said passable. Even if you get less than 50% proc rate on meditation and less than 30% on Brotherhood you'll still out DPS a Ninja of equivalent skill/gear
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>>382758285
>Exdeath
Oh boy.
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>>382758027
If VIT factors into damage then they have to keep bulking up VIT more than they want to get tank damage at the level they want.
>>
>>382758285
Datamining autists ruining it for everyone again I see.
>>
>>382758287
>I need rng to do ok
Sorry you're bad anon, it's not even a job thing if you have to rely on chance to get decent numbers
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>>382758215
>>382758362
So basically this was a tl;dr of "we are literally too stupid to just change the influence of vit on HP/damage"

I don't understand what's wrong with STR and VIT affecting attack power at a rate of 30%/60% or something to that effect.
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>>382758285
where are you getting this from
>>
>>382757921
With full balance on, the best SAM DPS right now on Susano EX is 5002.
in comparison best MNK with balance is 4513
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>>382758438
see >>382758316
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>>382758438
Okay so you don't have reading comprehension in addition to not understanding the concept of procs per minute or statistics. Thanks for letting us know. See what this guy said
>>382758316
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>>382758451
If VIT and STR scale differently as ilvl goes up then no ratio would ever be correct at all levels.

Just take your lumps you fucking baby.
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>>382758014
>Halicarnassus

I guess maybe, inb4 "Oh you didn't fight the REAL one in Haukke, this is her real form" in the 2nd lore book.
>>
>>382758438
Enjoy your 600 potency baklava every minute or so while I shoot off 500 potency Forbidden Chakras every other GCD for 15 seconds.
>>
>>382758465
Top rankings on fflogs are never normal gameplay situations, it's people doing their best to rank with tons of stacked buffing etc.

I don't really care about how high people can go in just the right circumstances, I care more about a normal gameplay environment.
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>>382758492
And if I got crits every attack that would be real nice but doesnt change that hoping rng is in your favor to do well is pathetic, but mnks will do anything to stay out of the shed, I shouldnt be surprised
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>>382758285
Surprised no Sol Cannon.

I guess Neo Exdeath will be Omega 11.

Gilgamesh better better be Omega 8
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>>382758664
reasonable
>>
>>382758465
Shit like this is pretty much solely for scientific purposes
In practice the mechanics aren't going to ignore you for the entire fight and the rest of the team won't adjust so you can training dummy the boss from start to finish
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>>382758609
Literally any solution is better than good tanks dropping them because the jobs are unsatisfying leaving us with a bunch of shitter tanks who don't know what a cooldown is using full strength accessories because they read that it was meta.
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>>382758673
t. full skillspeed/det build
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>>382758285
>Check FFV version of that first boss
>"When defeated, Alte Roite transforms into the Jura Aevis."

Ok this might be good.
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>>382758683
Gilgamesh is already in the game though, there are not one but 2 hildabrand arcs involving him.
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>>382758465
Fuck Susano EX second phase.
>>
>mnks seriously getting this upset
>mnks this desperate to stay out of the shed
>h-half my damage is based on rng but I'm actually good guys, don't send me back there
>>
>>382758664
Without any balance, best MNK is 4328 and best SAM is 4570
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>>382758664
Samurai is also particularly good at abusing those abnormal situations since their burst can be lined up and blasted out super hard within a nice 10s overlapping buff window repeatedly through the fight without any loss to them.
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>>382758840
t.BLM
>>
>>382758727
Tanks are "leaving" to try out the new jobs. The ones crying their eyes out because of a 10% DPS loss are not only a miniscule minority, they also probably won't quit tanking since they are like abused spouses who can't even quit the game despite hating it.
>>
>>382758793
jura aevis is a random dragon trash mob though lmao
>>
>>382758832
We haven't seen him since 2.0 and even back then people were asking for "Extreme" and such.

Besides this is literally an FFV Raid, you can't not have him.
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>>382758979
And Hallicarnasus is something I can solo on my MNK.
>>
>>382758969
it would be a blessing (and hilarious) if Xenosys and his followers went full Jonestown over this desu senpai
>>
>>382758969
No, high level players aren't happy with the changes. I'm sure you're so much better than them, expert roulette hero.
>>
>>382758908
It's not even most of the second phase, just the very end where he starts shitting out puddles like diarrhea.
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>>382758908
I JUST WANT TO DO DPS
>lightning on head
>then gaol
>and then stun lightning
STOP
T
O
P
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>>382758876
And unsurprisingly that difference is almost perfectly made up for by Brotherhood, or more than made up for if your group is good at aligning buffs. Pretty much on target for the balance they were looking to strike.
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>>382758969
They're leaving to try out the new jobs and staying on those jobs because those jobs are actually fun, unlike tanks.
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>>382759123
But people are still bitching, so it will get nerfed that's just how it goes.
>>
Former WoW player here, really the only mmo I've sunk a serious amount of time into. Reading and observing all these FF14 threads have grabbed a little attention, though I've seen combat clips from dungeons and the game looks like shit.

There a free trial I can play? Bored and mind as well give it a shot.
>>
>>382759123
What about the extra potency from healer autoattacks? I've always wondered if that will make a difference now that accuracy is gone.
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>>382759084
Autistic retards aren't happy about numbers going down, who would have guessed.
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>>382759084
>A bunch of autists are reacting poorly to change and paradigm shifts within a game they spend most of their lives on
Color me fucking surprised!
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>>382759234
>if you don't like having literally NO progression in a fucking RPG then you're an autistic retard
t. DPS main who has literally never touched a tank and doesn't have any tank friends and doesn't realize DPS queues will NEVER get better until the tank issue is fixed.
>>
Played WoW and ARR, dropped both for BDO. The grind and node management tickle my autism just the right way
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>>382759286
That's nice but it doesn't change the fact that good tanks are unhappy with the changes and the changes make bad tanks even worse, and they're all you'll have. Enjoy literally never clearing anything without a static I guess.
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>>382758832
And neither of those arcs involved Gilgamesh dying.
Diablos and Ferdiad were in Dun Scaith.
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>>382759303
>le tank issue meme
don't make me laugh, the retards crying about a slight nerf to tank DPS aren't the majority
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>>382759303
>tank issue
You mean tanks whining that they can't do as much damage as a dps, that's always been the issue
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>>382759394
>>382759430
see >>382759381
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>>382759226
Yeah it goes up to 35. You probably won't like what's there though, 1-50 is a very slow tutorial designed for people who have never played an MMO. Make a character on one of the preferred servers to get double experience pre-60 so you don't have to grind as much to see what you want and make a decision.

>>382759230
The number I just grabbed was entirely just the top parse for Susano EX and looking at the difference 0.8% would make (the 5% Brotherhood gives factored for its uptime), was 209 or something like that. No idea if healers AA'd during it.
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>Check out best MNK without damage
>26% of its damage comes from his auto attack
That's crazy
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>>382759460
>see
see what, your baseless assumption? ok, thanks, cya
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>>382759460
Literally not an argument, just you reeeeeeeing about queues because you have nothing else
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