Are you picking up pic related? What are your dreams, hopes and

That it comes to PC. Not buying it twice otherwise.

>>382724223
i hope i have forgotten enough of the plot that it's fresh again, and i hope i remember enough of the annoyances that the fixes and imorovements shone through

mostly i just want to ogle fran

>>382724223
Yes. I wanted dual audio and I got it. Still not sure which language I'll pick first since I liked the English dub but have never played through in Japanese.

This one has that alternative license grid thing, right? Any other extras worth noting?

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>>382724223

Absolutely. I loved 12 and I'm excited to try out the improved license board

$50 for one game is a little ridiculous, considering KH 1.5+2.5 was $50 for 4 full games. I'll buy it next year or something.

>>382724964
slightly faster overworld movement speed is a big one. but the two job boards per character is easily the biggest change. should be neato

I'm excited to hear the new Sakimoto tracks. Does anyone know if you can switch between remastered and original soundtrack.

>>382724223
more bangaa porn

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>>382725875
Any actual additional new content (like zones) other than the remastered OST?

>>382724223
PC release when?

Someone post the
>dude what if
pasta because it's all fucking true

>>382726235
not to my knowledge

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>>382724223

>ywn experience a true FFXII remake/remaster that ultilizes the power of modern hardware and software to create high-poly character models, improved/larger cities, HD textures, new areas (like Rozarria), new stories and quests, new races and enemies, more weapons and armor, more magick and technicks as well as new items and gambits.

Why?

>>382724223
Exactly how does the new system work?

I assume certain classes only have access to specific skills on the license board?

What other changes have they made in terms of balancing?

>>382724964
>go to youtube after making this post
>this is sitting in my recommended list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laroUA2xUhs
Well, nice knowing Google's spying on me.

>>382724223
Is Zodiac Age just a port of IZJS or have they added additional features? An option to change jobs would be nice for people who never got to play IZJS, since picking jobs based on an incredibly vague description was never a good idea.

>>382729448
You get to choose two jobs per character and switch between them.
There's a x4 fast forward button instead of x2.
Also Vaans abs are finally fixed.

That's the basic gist of the update outside of some minor stuff.

>>382729448
Can't change jobs but the remaster added in dual classing.

>Make a bushi(new name for samurai)/knight
>obtain so many battle and magic lores that you heal just as strong as a white mage and deal damage like a fucking beast, and have enough HP to tank like there is no tomorrow
>equip white robes from the bushi license board. boosts holy damage by 50%
>equip excalibur, gaining boosted damage from battle lores, magic lores, and the white robes
>become the ultimate paladin

This game cannot come soon enough.

>>382724223
Do they let you have Larsa in your party fulltime?

>>382729664
Might be wrong on that switch between jobs thing, not sure if they work at the same time or you swap between the two.

So what are the characters base stats? I don't want to fuck up and make a non mage into one by accident

>>382730058
No permanent shotas for your team this time either.

>>382724578
>mostly i just want to ogle fran

speaking of that, I want to find out if they had the nerve to actually remodel her ass, as well as the other girls.

Basch - Knight/Breaker
Ashe - Red Mage/White Mage
Pen - Time Mage/Black Mage
Vann - Monk/Archer
Bal - Machinist/Lancer
Fran - Samurai/Assassin

Yay or nay?

>>382730149
They are active at the same time. No switching between two jobs.

>>382730153
And one more thing. Are there any extra bosses? I remember getting the wyrmhero blade but it was so useless because I killed all the strongest enemies in the game to get it

>>382730267
Did they balance the game around it in this version? Otherwise that sounds broken as fuck.

>>382730261
I personally would do a redmage/archer. Not super important to do though.

This combo works because you can get burning bow+ fire arrows+ oil to do some insane damage.

Not to mention casting ardor off of your burning bow on a oiled enemy to do just insane damage.

And if you stack these with that one status that ups your magic damage...you will just melt anything in the game. As long as they are not immune to fire that is.

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>he didn't preorder the limited edition case

LMAO

>>382730328
Trial mode is full of bosses and enemy challenges, made specifically for all those weapons you gain in the story, but have nothing to use them on, like the wyrm hero blade.

>>382730413
They said the game was re-balanced around dual classes.

>>382730153
There's not much variation in the unaltered stats. The girls are a bit more magicky and the guys a bit more muscley, it's what you would expect. Honestly what's more important is attack animations. For instance: Balthier hits faster with spears than any other character meaning he has the best DPS with them.

>>382730153
Base stats do not matter entirely as equipment will eventually make much more of an impact than base stats ever can.

Attack animations are more important. Penelo is great with ninja swords, fran is amazing with poles...there is a list on gamefaqs that lists these stats. might have to do some digging, but its well worth looking into.

That being said, however, attack animations do not really matter either unless you are just wanting to kill something as fast as you can. But the bosses can be handled easily in this version so it does not matter really.

>>382730696
>They said the game was re-balanced around dual classes.

Glad to hear that.

>>382730154
>No permanent shotas for your team this time either.

God fucking dammit SE you had ONE FUCKING JOB

>>382724223
no
it was shit then and it's shit now

Why would I buy the worst game of a series?

>>382733771
Because it has the best combat system of the series.

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please god tell me there is a higher res version of this art i wanna print it and frame it as a poster in my room

>>382724223
>more BALTHIER IS BEST BOY shit
>while Basch gets ignored
Shit taste

>>382724223

Nope. Played the original version when it came out and ended up disappointed. Tried the IZJS some years later, and while it had a lot of improvements, I was still bored. FF XII is one of those games I can compliment, but just can't enjoy much.

>>382724578

Well the plot disappears after a little while, so there's not much to forget.

>>382724964

There's a good amount of alterations. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII#International_Zodiac_Job_System

>>382735404
http://www.finalfantasyxii.com/img/home/final-fantasy-xii-key-art.jpg

I've waited over 10 years to play it, I can wait a little longer

$50 for a PS2 remaster is extortionate. I'll pick it up when I can find it for $20 somewhere

>>382724964
>HD upscaled graphics
>Overhauled textures
>Overhauled lighting and post-processing effects
>Fran's ass has been enhanced
>Based of the International Zodiac Job System version that was never released outside of Japan
>Rebalancing to battles that make the game less difficult
>You can now assign two jobs to each character, meaning you can actually utilize every single job unlike in the original IZJS version
>Re-recorded orchestral version of the soundtrack (but you can still choose the original version if you wish)
>New music pieces by the original composer

It's the most effort Square Enix has put into a remaster yet. The fact that they've made actual changes to the game itself beyond visuals and audio is amazing to me.

Someone at SE really loves FFXII.

>>382724223
It's in my top 3 favorite FFs, but I'll probably wait until it's cheaper.

>>382735982
You can also choose English or Japanese audio.

Also you can now speed the game up x8 instead of just x4.

>>382735847
thank you dude

>>382735847
That's gorgeous.

Honestly it's my favorite FF game and I played the everloving fuck out of it on the PS2 when it came out.

I've been meaning to replay it for years now so this is a perfect opportunity to do so and an upgraded version of it at that.

On a related note I'm not really sold on the FFVII remake and I wish they remade VIII instead since that always felt like it could use a redo since it was aesthetically more "realistic" but looked a bit chumpy in low poly.

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>>382735973
>$50 for a PS2 remaster is extortionate.

Eh, Square Enix has done worse.

This is a PSP remaster and costed $60 when it came out.

>>382736372
>On a related note I'm not really sold on the FFVII remake and I wish they remade VIII instead since that always felt like it could use a redo since it was aesthetically more "realistic" but looked a bit chumpy in low poly.
I think I read that FFVII Remake isn't the only PS1 era remake they have planned, but good luck on them doing anything beyond VII, if they ever finish it.
I would much rather have VIII remake too, but VII is still a favorite of mine.

>>382736553

I hope its not FF desu and something like Parasite Eve

>>382726235
>>382726454

- Trial mode: You fight through 100 stages of monsters, ending with a fight against all of the Judges.
- Controllable guests and Espers
- Quickinings and summoning uses Mist Charges instead of MP
- Turbo speed
- 16 new gambits
- Can buy all gambits as soon as you get out of the place you meet Basche.
- New items and weapons
- Magick is rearranged. A lot of spells are in different categories now.
- Two NG+ modes, one which starts you characters at level 90, one which keeps everyone at level 1 for the entire game.
- Treasures respawn when you move one screen away instead of 3.
- Don't have to be scared of opening pots, you can get the Zodiac Spear (multiple times, if you want) from various new methods.
- Can do more than 9999 damage
- Yiazmat is weak to the those four debuffing spells that decrease attack, defense, magic attack, and magic defense.
- Other stuff I know I'm forgetting about.

>>382736539
They only thought they could get away with that shit because the PSP original was never released outside of Japan and therefore it was technically a brand new game!

Lo and behold it sold abysmally.

>>382736639
Hell, I'd love a Xenogears remake(seriously, I could die happy, or just kill myself if they ruin it, it's my all time favorite game.), but we all know it's going to only be FF games that have a chance.

>>382735982
>Someone at SE really loves FFXII.

The guy who directed it (as well as several other mainseries FF games), Hiroyuki Ito, really considers FFXII his pride and joy, and he directly oversaw development of the remaster as well.

>>382730680
joke's on you i already preordered the ps4 steelbook so i can have it right next to the ps2 steelbook i have

>>382736896
>Hell, I'd love a Xenogears remake (seriously, I could die happy, or just kill myself if they ruin it, it's my all time favorite game.)

I honestly don't even know if they could get away with all the crazy religious and social quandary shit they played around with in that game done in a modern style.

>>382730680
But I did. I preorder it months ago from FUCKING GAMESTOP.

>>382737294
yeah they would likely end up butchering the shit out of it if they did a remaster, because that would mean bringing that stuff to light again and faggots would start crying about it.

>>382730504
not that guy, so would you pair monk with whm then?

>>382737294
>raised in a strict Pentecostal household
>bought Xenogears on a whim because there was an ad for it inside the FFVII instruction booklet and I was a weeaboo who was drawn to anime looking shit to boot
>suddenly a few hours into the game everything goes nuts and people start talking about warring angels and killing God and shit
>was convinced God might smite me at any moment for playing it but it was so damn good I kept on

Xenogears scared the ever loving fuck out of me.

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>>382724223
PC version is better.

>>382735982
>>HD upscaled graphics
>>Overhauled textures
>>Overhauled lighting and post-processing effects
These aren't really good things in practice, the game looks janky.

>>382737070
That guy only took over when t he real director left though.

>>382737750
It lets you use the less potent white magic as a monk, while letting you get mystic armor and magic lores.

Its a pretty decent job combo to fill out what monk lacks.

>>382737825
My first experience is somewhat similar, only I was raised in a Southern Baptist household that was only somewhat strict.
Had they known what was in that game, they'd likely would've had me have a talk with the pastor.

I'd like to see a Vagrant Story remaster/remake

>>382737387
I did as well, mainly because I forgot to actually place the order on amazon before they went out of stock.

>>382738679
Not without Matsuno
XII could get a full remake and have it be a non issue since it was already desecrated but without Matsuno around Square would have to go about Vagrant Story like sex with the love of their life for the very first time which they never will.

>>382735982

>You can now assign two jobs to each character, meaning you can actually utilize every single job unlike in the original IZJS version

Okay, that sounds great. I liked IZJS, but it just felt weird to lock your characters into one role for the entire game in a game with the job system; that hasn't been done since FF I.

>>382735982
>no extra super boss/hunt

Dropped

I thought this was already out.
I've already seen the gameplay but I don't think that itself is worth it. How's the plot? My friend likes to watch me play games so something like this would e alright if the story isn't bad.

>>382724325

pretty sure it's the only one that hasn't come to PC yet so there's no reason to believe they won't bring it over as well

>>382739605
It's really stupid. The only reason to play it is for Fran(interesting character that has like 5 lines of dialogue) and the music.

>>382738682
They came back in stock a week or so ago. Don't know if they're out again, though.

>>382739805
Also to reiterate the music isn't very good, it's just one of the better parts of the average game.

>>382724223
>What are your dreams, hopes and expectations for the game?
It's the same shit in HD. Don't talk like if this were a brand new game.

>>382740286
For most people, it likely is a new game.

>>382740556
>For most people, it likely is a new game.
Wrong you retard. FF12 sold a ton and the remaster will sell like shit because FF12 was shit.

>>382741587
Ya got me good.

>>382741587

Have you not noticed all the praise for FF XII in the last few years? It's been nearly 11 years since FF XII came out, and people who played it as kids remember it as a great game. Plus there's the people who weren't kids and actually liked it 11 years ago for some reason.

>>382742723
I've noticed many autistic samefags sure.
>and people who played it as kids remember it as a great game
lol

>>382742831

What? Kids have shit taste, 12 year olds probably didn't judge FF XII as harshly as people who'd been playing the game since the mid to late 90s.

>>382742831
I loved it as a 18 year old and still love it today, but because I have a different opinion than you, I'm not real, right?

>>382724223
>no vita version

Completely dropped. That really sucks.

>>382740286
There's quite a lot of changes.

Nah, because watching it on YouTube is the same experience.

>>382742723
Hahahha. People trashed Xii when it came out.
>plays itself
>get item, grind for license, grind for gambits grind for everything
>lol shit star wars
>vaan and penelo
>12 races in ivalice, 5 humans, 1 viera
>sidequests all hunts

Garbage game left a garbage taste in my mouth 10 years later. Viii was more enjoyable

>people excited for 2 jobs when vanilla let you have all the jobs
>people say vanilla license board made carbon copies when it's entirely up to the player to do so
>people that say the game plays itself when they set up the gambits to do so
i fucking hate these people

>>382746250

>People trashed Xii when it came out.

I know this. I'm one of them. I don't know how you missed my obvious disdain for the game, or the fact that I said that it gets a lot of praise now because dumb, tasteless kids are nostalgic over it. You and I and others may have shat on it in 2006, but I imagine we were probably older than 12 at the time.

>>382746669
vanilla XII sucked ass because you could be any job, but you excelled at nothing.

Everyone will have all the same magic and technicks. If you purposely don't allow your characters these abilities, you are going out of your way to hinder yourself.

The only way that characters actually felt different was giving everyone different weapons, but so many of the weapons in vanilla 12 were just outclassed by other weapons, or have incredibly niche uses. Its more or less the same ordeal as hindering yourself to not unlock abilities if you try to make your characters use different obsolete weapons.


IZJS fixes this because it bars you from using everything, and what you can do you excel at.
Individual classes use their specific weapons with builds that cater to them so all weapons are more balanced rather than the shit show that was vanilla 12.

I love gambits, but again, why hinder yourself when you can optimize everything? You will no doubt make gambits cover all cases just for how useful they are. I do not see this as a negative though. Gambits are such an amazing system. I really wish more games used this system.

>>382747065
I read your post and completely agreed with it. XII was crap. It was also Macguffin the storytelling, with stupid plot holes everywhere. I remember searching for the suncrest or something and the story saying it was the only way to stop vayne then they destroy it only for vayne saying lol it was my plan the entire time

It just made me roll my eyes by that point since the entire story fillers was just chasing some artifact that gets destroyed by the end of the arc.

>>382747618
You'll never fill out the entire board unless you grind all day. For people that just played it it was fine since you set them up. And the game already more or less sets you on a path. Basch was close to great swords and armor, vaan to daggers etc.

>>382748298
that makes some sense, but many will find out that some weapons are better than others, go against the grain, and make the license board the most optimal way they can that allows them to take on more people at once.

A curaga wiht a rod isn't so much more potent than it is with any melee weapon. With how low your HP is in vanilla XII, it really didn't matter. Why hinder one of your characters to heal slightly better when it means your melee damage just drops like a rock?

It is best to make all of your chatacters melee centered, while unlocking all magicks for them. It is really what the license board will lead you to do.

Also, similarly to how pointless it is to choose rods over melee weapons, the same can be said about ranged weapons. Why dedicate your generalist melee-er to a ranged option when they can just cast their magic on a flying enemy? It is just so pointless to choose anything else.

Some of these explanations may not be so great, I am not the best with explanations when tackling so many topics at once. Though if you wanna ask for a more detailed part on why Vanilla 12 was shit i can focus on that.

My number one hope is they finally allow us to uninvert the X axis.

>>382749272
you can

>>382749007
Yea and the problem is that you find the weapon realize the license for it is on the other side so you can't use it unless you grind.