52 Stars, having a great time. Why people keep saying it

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>>382716120
They're dumb. 64 is still the best Mario, albeit not by much. Galaxy and G2 are amazing, Sunshine is very good as well. Odyssey might blow it out of the water, here's hoping.

They're retarded is why.
Few platformers are that consistently good throughout, on top of having such excellent movement mechanics.

Nobody said that.

They're used to simplified 8-directional controls with no momentum in Galaxy and 3D Land

>>382716675
A leap is a leap

Because they think being contrarian is smart.

>>382716120
this game pretty much is the epitome of greatest character movement controlling on n64

>>382716675
Galaxy was such shit. For being set in a galaxy is sure did railroad you through the content, and have a huge lack of memorable content. Just blast off from planet to planet, wow

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>>382717171
It's a linear mario game. Not my taste either but it's good for what it is. SM3DL iterated on it though and is better in pretty much every way, imo. But without galaxy there is no 3DL.

>>382717171
>i never beat galaxy so it's shit but default
loving every laff

>>382716120
Video games aging is a meme. If they were amazing then, they're amazing now. If they're shit then, they're still shit. People still hold onto this belief that a bad retro game was once good when that's rarely the case.

>>382717364
>3D Land
How?
3D Land is imo the worst 3D Mario, Mario is slow, the levels are boring, music sucks sans some tracks and is painfully easy, even the secret level isn't that hard.
Galaxy is not my fav 3D Mario, but is far better than 3D Land

I feel like Mario after Sunshine was mostly shit and 64 was the 3D series peak.

LET'S DO IT

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>>382717778
i too, unironically love sunshine my brother

>>382716985
Because it's better? Momentum in platformers is terrible

>>382717778
But sunshine is like, the 2nd weakest 3D Mario.
Right after 3D land.

>>382716120
Because it's an old nintendo game

>>382717778
Sunshine and NSMB1 sucked so bad I can't even bring myself to play newer Mario games even in Dolphin or Citra or whatever

>Why do contrarian babies say negative things
Because they crave attention.

>Why people keep saying it aged horribly?

I've never heard anybody say sm64 has aged horribly.

>>382716120
Nobody says that.

>>382716675
How can you do a half leap?

>Art style takes advantage of a low poly count
>Very simplistic and straight forward in nature
>Attention hangs on control and level design rather than immersion and aesthetic
>Most everyone who says that was not alive or was without memory at the time of the game's release, and believes this only in rabid defense of the mario game from their own respective childhood (Sunshine or Galaxy)

>>382718224
Why? Having momentum feels good

It didn't age horribly, but it's not really that great, honestly. I replayed both this and banjo a few times, and Banjo is by far the better game. Still holds up great, this doesn't. SM64 is older though, Banjo had the benefit of learning from this game.

The bad camera. SM64 is a game with extremely good movement controls, but it was a very poor choice having the player control the perspective using 4 directional buttons with camera angle snaps instead of an additional analog stick.

>>382717171
This. Plus that sterile, tiny hub. We went from memorable, large hubs like Peach's castle and Delfino to basically just a tiny round platform.

>>382716120
>Why people keep saying it aged horribly?
I never see anyone say this. Pretty much everyone agrees that it holds up better today than any other N64 game.

People tend to say several elements of the game aged poorly, not that the whole game aged horribly.

Stop making hyperbolic statements just for the sake of getting replies or fueling a victim complex.

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It didn't age horribly but people are retarded when they say Mario 64 is the best game/3d platformer/best Mario 3D platformer even.

It was a blueprint that showed the whole industry how to really do proper 3d movement. It was revolutionary, and it has a lot of timeless appeal to it. But a fuckload of 3D platformers made after Mario 64 take the lessons taught in that game and surpass it.

Mario 64 is really something special but it is not the best game ever, best 3d platformer, or even best 3d Mario.

>>382720151
You have terrible taste...

>>382720761
Banjo K-T are both significantly better than 64.

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>>382720758
>But a fuckload of 3D platformers made after Mario 64 take the lessons taught in that game and surpass it.
name one.

And I'm saying this as someone who owned a playstation and didn't play SM64 until over a decade later.

>>382721096
Banjo Kazooie.

>>382720858
Might give you Kazooie, but not fucking Tooie

>>382720858
>Kazooie
Sure ok
>Tooie
Hell no that shits DK64 levels of filler

>>382721193
literally who

>>382716120
No one says that unless they are being contrarian fucks.

>>382721096
Gravity Rush
Mario Galaxy 1+2
Banjo Kazooie/Tooie
Off the top of my head.

>>382721193
banjo controls like shit, and is filled with shitty mini-games

64 can have some really easy stars and the game is easy to beat compared to modern platformers but even then its still hella fun. Great controls, great world diversity, rocking soundtrack and lots of secret stars to find.

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>>382721290
>gravity rush
>galaxy
is this bait?

but first we need to talk about parallel universes

>>382721365
>soundtrack
The songs that are there are timeless classics but reusing the same songs for half the other stages was kinda lazy.

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>>382721202
>>382721210
>Still perpetuating this meme
I love them both. Tooie is a better game than kazooie
Kazooie literally throws jiggies at you for half the game. They're actually just out in the open. It's way to easy. Tooie makes you work for it and the world exploration is way better.

The mini games in tooie were also way fucking better. I mean for fuck sake, Banjo Tooie is not just Banjo Tooie it's also a whole fucking goldeneye/perfect dark FPS game. On top of a bunch of other things. Ground pounding the christmas lights to safety can't compete.

>people saying Banjo-Kazooie is a better 3D platformer
>when it has significantly less 3D platforming

>>382716120
Retards and graphics kiddies. It's actually one of the best aged games ever made.

>>382721885
>Mario 64
>Significant platforming
If were talking about platforming>exploration than you realize 3D Land and 3D World would shit all over 64, right?

>>382721885
Banjo-Kazooie has a lot more personality, and that can go a long way when you judge a game, whether you realize it or not.

>>382717410

he's right though

>>382721380
I really liked Banjo-Kazooie but it's silly to say it's a better 3D platformer than Super Mario 64 when there's so little actual 3D platforming. It's more of an action adventure game with its focus on exploration and getting different collectables, abilities, forms, etc. Once in a while you have to do some tricky jumps in Click Clock Wood's wooden scaffolding or Clanker's Cavern walls but these are the exceptions, not the rule.

>>382717171
>another case of linearity is bad
Negro please

Linearity should only be considered a negative aspect of a game when it contradicts or interferes with the games level design. If you don't like linear games then don't play them.

>>382721724
>meme
it's not a meme, Tooie is worse than Kazooie.
Huge ass empty worlds (made worse by Banjo's slow-ass speed), Jiggys taking too much work/backtrack to get (and they dont even feel rewarding to get), even less platforming than Kazooie, useless new moves, Minjos existing at all, and other shit makes the game feel like a boring chore.
And for the love of god dont tell me you actually like those awful fps/minigames sections.
>shoot/collect rbg things for points for the billionth time
>get lost in this maze shooting at shit
>have fun trying to aim at this boss while flying/swimming lol

>>382716120
Because some games did age horribly and autists interpret that as any game that is old must have aged horribly. They're just fags who can't see straight. Mario 64 has by far the best platforming and gameplay mechanics of any 3D Mario.

>>382716120
Because of the camera and getting kicked out of the level every time you die instead of having a restart option. Be sure to check out Star Road and Last Impact if you want more

https://youtu.be/UPFdXvCxQwU

>>382726320
>That blatant jumpcut
lel