>Characters are no longer allowed to be this masculine, m

You do realize that the soldier's masculinity, machoism, americanism and patriotism is played for laughs, right? You realize he's a parody of the stereotypical drill sgt, right?

>>382685045
How is being masculine sterotypical?

>>382684898
God TF2 is fucking autistic

Geralt is pretty much a cowboy

>>382685045
That doesn't mean he lacks any of those traits though.

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>>382684898
>lulwut

>>382686898
overwatch made them too serious; soldier is dumb and that's why he's a great character. OW needs more shittalking in general, everyone is too buddy buddy

>>382687419
>too buddy buddy
Ow heroes are fucking pussies
They don't have the balls to say actually mean things to each other

>>382686898
>one is a nihilistic grandpa
>Another is an edgelord

Mccree is close, but Blizzard + the VA being an SJW are making him subtly bisexual and undermining his southern hospitality personality.

Torb would have been one of the only ones, but his recent comics show that he is secretly an omnic sympathizer, so thats gone too.

>>382684898
Valve exhausted the unfunny cringe quota for the next 30 years.

>>382686898
>market research: the game

>>382687676
Overwatch has no good character designs
Prove me wrong
you can't

>>382687419
>>382687667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kd5gaHVwcY

I'm really not saying overwatch has the great character design, but you guys don't think tf2 actually has great characters do you?

>>382684898
I love his blood-curdling scream when he gets backstabbed/headshotted

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>>382687838
The only 1 in the game.

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>>382687931
It hurts how true this is to Overwatch

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>>382688150
>the one character who's memed by tumblr babbies for being an edgelord(wich is the entire point of his design) actually has the best design in the game
How

>Overwatch will never get another developer sanctioned comic that gets these quality good jokes.

mfw

>>382688110
In terms of character design? TF2 characters are simplistic while Overwatch characters have more detail. There's nothing wrong with either approach, TF2 is a game based around 9 solid classes whereas Overwatch is intended to have dozens of unique heroes, it only makes sense for it to be that way.

In terms of character personality? It's not even close. You can maybe chalk it up to TF2 characters being around for a decade but at the end of the day each TF2 class has way, way more depth than any Overwatch hero. Even the borderline mute Pyro has more depth than anything Overwatch has to offer. Overwatch characters are so one-note it hurts. The worst thing is that they're all so sterile. Nobody ever swears, no one ever says anything mean. Being sterile isn't something that's limited to the characters either. There isn't even any blood in the game, Blizzard are desperately trying to be the next Pixar with Overwatch, you can tell by how quick they were to pull the Tracer victory pose at even the smallest amount of criticism.

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>>382687667
>>382687419

Imagine if they had real global banter:

>Soldier on Sym kill
"Hard to find good tech support today"

>Sombra on Reaper kill
"Gab quiere ser hardcore y su mama no le deja!"

>Winston on Zarya kill
"You russians barely put a dog into orbit, but this Moon monkey just put a man into the dirt!"

>Hanzo on Genji kill
Glowing lights and neon chrome, your corpse look like a Dekotora wreck!

>Tracer on Orisa kill
The sun never sets on a British asswhoopin!

>Reinhardt on Lucio kill
"Make that 8 to 1"

>Reaper on Roadhog/Junk kill
Sorry, that murder was "refused classification

>>382689358
I haven't played it since like 2009 or something, but I remember every character being fairly one note. heavy was angry russian man, sniper was sterotypical sniper, soldier was drill sarge.

Maybe they got expanded since then or something.

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>>382689469
>we will never get this and instead get tumblr tier dialogues

>>382688323
I love Reaper because he's an unapologetic edge lord. I got that statue of him from the Blizzard Gear shop.

>>382688198
It feels a lot like what World of Warcraft was like in comparison to WC3. A trend we would see in all of their future games as they move away from the edgy 90's-00's themes. We'll never see shit like Half-Life anymore where a single protagonist goes against the world. Now it's all about the power of friendship.

>>382689469
And that is why I love TF2s dominated lines

>Ahem...why don't we just give up pardner?

>>382689859
He's also the only one who's actually kind of a dick

>>382685045

>it's a parody
>he's still the most likable character

Even a shadow of the ideal is better than one of those dress wearing nurses

>>382690123
Dominated! ya ploddin' potatohead

>>382690123
All the TF2 lines are great. They've got so much charm and personality to them, basically the complete opposite to Overwatch.

>>382689358
>Even the borderline mute Pyro has more depth than anything Overwatch has to offer
And do you know why is that?
It's because Pyro's muteness is a part of his personality that extends his character and gives him a special quirk
Contrary to just doing it because you're lazy/don't want to pay a voice actor for Bastion

>>382685045
Stupid cunt, you realize Valve is the last redpilled company left in the industry, right? Back to Overwatch.

TF2 was Valve trying to push boundaries and create something unique and artistic.
Overwatch is Blizzard trying to recuperate their losses with Titan and were as safe as possible and made it as appealing as possible to every demographic to assure they get as much money back as possible.

Overwatch is not a bad game, but it's incredibly bland artistically. However, over time Valve has taken a bigger focus onto making money than retaining artistic values. Not just with TF2, but Dota 2 as well. So it's more of a change of times than devs.

I just want Overwatch to fucking die already

>>382691002
Was it? Or was it just them doing what they always do and taking a mod and making a game out of it. Valve is good at polishing but they're not exactly original.

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>>382687931
https://youtu.be/yK9ya1vZZcU

>>382689469
>McCree on Genji kill
"You see these things? They're called guns."

>soldier to Tracer
"Bullets are still faster."

>Junkrat killing a female
"...Cunt."

>>382691132
The originality isn't in the games themselves. Their originality and talent comes from the presentation. Left 4 Dead was a pretty boring and repetitive game, but people fondly remember the characters.

One thing Battleborn got right was Oscar Mike

>Attention all units Feminism is awesome!
He says that when he dominates a female player.

>>382691238
>>382689469
>>382689769
>>382690123
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/f/f9/Sniper_DominationScout05.wav?t=20100625223410

best line in the game. Others are not far behind though.

>>382691334
Other way around for me, I enjoyed the gameplay but the characters were whatever. I guess valve charm just doesn't do it for me.

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>>382684898
Purge the xenos.

>>382689469
>"Make that 8 to 1"
GODDAMN IT

>>382689469
>make that 8 to 1

lel

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>>382690123
>Scotland is not a real country!
>you are an englishman in a dress!

>>382691810
ICH BIN EIN JUST KICKED YOUR ASS!

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>"words cannot describe how much I HATE FRANCE right now"

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>>382691987
>OOOHOOHOO YOU GUN SHOOTS MEDICINE!
>Its intimidatin....

>>382692416
IT WAS A MERCY KILLIN YOU LIVE IN A....CAMPER VAN!

>>382689469
>>382691238

>Roadhog on Ana/Pharah kill
Haram kill HAHAHAH!

>Mei on Hanzo/Genji kill
NO MEANS NO!

>Zarya on Widow kill
The Russian Aristocrats used to speak French too........ we killed them as well......

>Symmetra on Mei kill
Nuh uh uh, you're not building walls in my territory

>Widow on winston kill (while wearing huntress)
A wonderful mount for my eastern wall!

Swearing makes me feel mature and a big manly man! That's why I tell mom she's a cunt every time she forgets to buy me lego!

>>382692419
I just noticed that not only tf2 has more personality, but just has better voice acting

>>382690369
>soldier
>most likable character

Have you even played TF2 man?

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>>382692841
So are you just shitposting here until your tendies are done or what?

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>>382690123
>Spy to Heavy: "Too bad this wasn't an eating competition!" "I'm putting you on a special diet I like to call: DEATH"

>Scout to Heavy: "Nice hustle, tons-of-fun, next time eat a salad!!"

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/d/df/Soldier_DominationHeavy05.wav?t=20100625232941
>Soldier to Heavy: "GO PLAY YOUR PINKO CHESS GAME WITH THE DEVIL, COMMIE!"

Sniper to Heavy:
"Gotcha, ya pot-bellied lardass!"
"Thanks for the target practice, ya plump bloody freakshow!"
"Dodge that, ya fat jigglin' butterball!"
"Oi! Yer bleedin' gravy, fatso!"
"Thanks for bein' such a whoppin' big target, mate!"
"I just bagged the world's fattest man!"
"That gotcha, ya lard-arm simpleton!"

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>a butthurt mod deleted the post showing how terrible ow voicelines are

>>382693065
He probably deleted it himself because it's already been posted.

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>>382688198
Yeah that patch that replaced combat with group hugs was really too much.

Will Doomfist finally show some balls and personality to the ow cast?
probably not

>>382685045
For all of Soldier's faults, he's still endearing.

>>382685045
Ahaha you delusional faggot. Get your blood pressure up a bit?

>>382690765
That's because for most of its run TF2 had literally some of the best writers in gaming for some reason on it (and not writing narrative games because Valve) whereas Blizzard has braindead automatons that write like focus groups.

>>382693472
>he thinks that just because you fight things it's not the safest "don't offend everyone" shit
They'd rather make their characters autistic and gay than expand on a backstory and world that is literally screaming to be expanded

>>382693663
All the 9 characters in TF2 are too likable.
Even Pyro, despite being a creep with a mask.

>>382693794
Hell even niggas like Merasmus , Pauling, The Announcer and such are great too.

>>382693065
Not as bad as dirty bomb

>>382689469
>make that 8 to 1
heh

>>382689469
>Make that 8 to 1
KEK

>>382690123
Isn't that from a Team Service Announcement video?

>>382694179
No? It's when spy dominates engineer

>>382693771
>Implying anyone actually gives a shit about back story

>>382693957
No, even dirty bomb has better bants than OW.

>>382689469
>"Make that 8 to 1"
Fucking golden fuck you

>>382694453
They could if jewzard actually tried on it

>>382690898

You mean "her", right?

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>>382690123
>Everyone back to the base, pardner...

>>382684898
Call of Duty is like that but there still going through a xX720N0SC0P3T4CT1C00LSN1P3RXx faze.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNyVvqNY-qU

>>382690123
>Forget the bullets, how much are all of these coffins costin' ya?

>>382689469
>bastion on any living character
"01000110 01110101 01100011 01101011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01001111 01110010 01100111 01100001 01101110 01101001 01100011"

>>382694092
I don't get it

OW couldn't have savage character trash talk like TF2. Someone would get their feelings hurt and cry on the forums and blizz would remove it in the next patch

>>382684898
>It's another insecure /pol/tard whines about MUH MASCULINITY episode again
fuck off retard

>>382695726
it's making fun of when germany dumpstered brazil in the world cup semifinals 7-1

>>382695830
Looks like the overwatch community finally arrived

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE6-nm8NBXQ

OW does have banter. it's just really tame compared to TF2.

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>>382695304
>professionals were paid to write and voice these lines
jesus christ

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>>382689469
>McCree on D.Va/Mei kill

>>382691434
Too bad /v/ didn't understand the context and thinks everything Gearbox does is by Anthony Burch.

>>382692872

>having shit taste

>>382684898
>his new voice lines are just straight up anti american

>>382696761
i dont know, shitting on Russian fatasses, German maniacs, and Boston sissies seem pretty American....

>>382696886
no like its current event politic shit.

>>382696761
>Soldier being anti-american

In what possible world did you get that message from what he says? He is literally a jingoist.

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>>382695304
>>382696465
He was intentionally made to be the edgiest character possible. Unironically edgy in fact.

>no longer allowed to

says who?
or is this just convenient for your narrative?

>>382697180
as in unaware self deprecating.

like if heavy was like "Oh vut a relief we won, now we are not going to russian gulags!"

>>382697085
give example

>>382697219
>"Nothin personnel....kid": The webm

>>382697256
Name 1 in the last 2 years.

>>382697219
That doesn't make it any less terrible

>>382697427
>He doesn't understand jingoism

Read a book son. It's not self-depricating. It's the reality of a lot of people during McCarthy era US.

>>382685045
Go back to /leftypol/

>>382684898

America is being consumed by political correctness, which is basically codeword for censorship by liberals and the LGBTWTFBBQ schizophrenics.

They bullied their way into the Western video game industry, so no male character is allowed to be a man, and god forbid there's almost exposed boobs in your game.

>>382697460
>IF we didn't win I would have to see your birth certificate

I think theres more but holy shit hes got like 6 minutes of these lines

>>382697498
A lack of examples doesn't mean they aren't allowed you dumb cunt. It just means nobody has bothered to make one.
Maybe you should get off your ass and make your own game if it concerns you so much.

>>382693737
I don't see how he could've said that more calmly. Are you okay?

>>382697782
i mean... if thats what you mean by current event shit and being bad, post more.
Thats pretty tame

>>382697782
maybe I'm just overreacting

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>>382687838
sup

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>>382690947
>>382684898

What about Reinhardt? He's a macho german dude with a giant hammer, and one of his skins is patriotic.

>>382685045
You are not wrong but just because something is played by laughs it doesn't mean the traits are bad.

There is nothing wrong with masculinity nor making fun of it.

>>382697782
>Needing to see American birth certificate being a "modern political issue"

How narrow is your sight? That shit was going on all the way back to the 20s.

>>382698050
>asks for good design
>posts tech support
Go back to your hugbox fps

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>>382697758

>>382698104
I never said it's bad, what I did say is that OP is pathetic for finding the parody of something to be the ideal of that thing. Soldier's machoism is played for laughs and is shown as a flaw more than a strength.

"Pain is weakness leaving the body" is not exactly the kind of statement most rational people would say, is it?

>>382698091
>Literally Don Quixote: kraut edition

Did nobody remember Battleborn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVNwGdBHFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH0Ghg0N1xY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WeALJ03EA

>>382687838
Technically speaking zarya is a very good design.

I'm not sayin appealing I'm saying design.

Her head is easilly recognizeable, shes got a good sillouete and her gun makes a nice line across her body.

>>382698301
Battlewhat? I only play games with >150 active players

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>>382685831
>>382686020
>>382690369
>>382690947
>>382693663
>>382693737
>>382697743
Okey, a bit confused here, are you guys retarded or is this just summer speaking? Has /v/ actually become this underage-tier retarded or something?

Soldier is played up and is a stereotype incarnate. He is like all the other characters, a joke. This is his bio:

"Though he wanted desperately to fight in World War 2, the Soldier was rejected by every branch of the military. Undaunted, he bought his own ticket to Europe. After arriving and finally locating Poland, the Soldier taught himself how to load and fire a variety of weapons before embarking on a Nazi killing spree for which he was awarded several medals that he designed and made himself. His rampage ended immediately upon hearing about the end of the war in 1949."

He is an actual psychopath and a parody of the hypermasculine, macho, jingoist Americans we know from a lot of media. You cannot SERIOUSLY be so underage you don't fucking know or observed this?

>>382698301
I was thinking just this morning about how important good writing and voice acting is.

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>>382693663
>Scout is a dumb, napoleon complex having thug from south Boston, yet defended literally everyone that gave him shit from God's wrath saying they aren't bad people, just dumb
>Soldier is a jingoistic, macho, delusional headcase and is easily the most likeable character because he's an endearing and loyal friend between all those faults
>Pyro is a psychopath that looks and acts like he stepped out of a slasher film, but gets fun moments from having the mind of a child without having to resort to making him look sympathetic
>Demo is a drunk, self loathing, loudmouthed mess of several social disorders. But he also supports his elderly mother by doing what he really loves to do in life for a living
>Heavy is a very violent man with several sadistic character traits, but is also a family man with a strong sense of camaraderie with his coworkers
>Engineer is the closest to normal, but was in on many conspiracies and manipulated others for financial gain, but again, beyond that he's an educated "good ol' boy" from Texas and lives clean otherwise
>Medic outright has borderline personality disorder on top of being a creepy mess of a human being and also saved all his friends with genuine intent, albeit absolutely fucked methods
>Sniper is a lunatic in a van who kills people for a living also really cares for his own family and is willing to put personal rivalries and altercations with others aside in the name of professionalism
>Spy is a enigmatic bastard who manipulates, kills, and lies for a living. He also was able to reflect on past mistakes and attempt (in his own way) to make peace with his illegitimate son out of genuine remorse for leaving his mother to raise him by himself
They're all really endearing despite being merc trash through and through.

>>382698643
its endearing anon.

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I wish there were more positive male role models in media these days. Real manly men, doing man things, the man way. Show the kids that it's okay to be a big scruffy dude, and being a manly man won't make you a rapist or abuser. If anything, being a real man means standing up for those who can't defend themselves.

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>>382698697
now THIS is a heartwarming post.

>>382698814
How is it endearing and what is endearing?

>>382698697
moral of the story
>familly makes any unlikable trash likeable

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>>382697782
>paranoia of american authenticity is ""current politics""
Holy shit how summer can you get. please stick to /pol/, we already have enough retards here

>>382698936
>I don't watch any form of media whatsoever: the post

>>382698697
>>382698986

>>382698643
You say that like those traits make him an unlikeable character and are somehow negative

>>382699039
>Soldier, are we on the Moon right now?
>YES
god i love the tf2 comics

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>>382684898
>I'm going to mail my boot to the kaiser with your ass around it
>mfw

>>382699104
what ones?

>>382693915
>DOOMED ALL OF YOU ARE DOOMED...oh hello Soldier

>>382698814
all of the characters are endearing. despite being psychopaths, killers and overall pretty reprehensible, they're all written superbly. that's the point.

>>382699140
He is a literal psychopath murderer who is actually desperate to prove his mettle as a man in war.

>>382699128
Of course they have positive traits rofl

>>382699039
you can tell all the female characters are written by the one woman on the writing team (now the only writer left). completely unfunny and has to plainly explain all jokes

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>>382699104
Most men in moder media are wimpy backstabbing nu-males. We need more men like Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jean-Claude Van Damme, and Tom Selleck.

>>382684898
What about COD WWII, Crackdown 3, Halo Wars 2, Sniper Elite 4, and Ghost Recon Wildlands?

>>382699039
the TF2 comics have such good writing, love these

>>382699361
Oh grow a funny bone ya git

>>382698643
All the characters in TF2 are Psychopaths.

>>382699361
literally the worst thing you can do with something funny is explain it immediately after or give a warning beforehand that it might not be funny, I don't get how there are people that don't understand that in this day and age

>>382698291
>implying that's a bad thing

>>382698697
The TF2 mercs may be parodies but they're still more likeable than all of Overwatch's shitty cast.

>>382699672
The gremlin edits of D.Va are more likeable than all of overwatch combined

>>382699349
And that makes him a fun character.

>>382699529
>nu-males
Oh right, it's one of THOSE threads where some boys think of themselves as above others who have one lifestyle and not the "right" one aka yours.

What we see in today's media is a much broader spectrum of characters being written. You still have your ultra-macho men in movies if that's what you like, but I for one think it's fucking boring watching Bruce Willis get shot at 20000 times.

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>you will never be a part of ragtag group of friends fighting side by side

Whenever I play games like X-COM, TF2, Rainbow Six etc. any of these games about teaming up with bunch of nutcases to save the day, I imagine myself in the situation as one of the characters.

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>>382699361
Are you retarded? This comic was released in 2012. Do you honestly think they handed off all of the writing of female characters to female writers just because?
The point is that Pauling isn't in tune with all the others and doesn't really know how up in arms Soldier can get. It's not "explaining the joke"
Holy shit you people.

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>>382699904
t. nu-male

Why are TF2 players so insecure about Overwatch? It'd be one thing if Tf2 was dead and buried but it still exists, I just got done playing it. There's no real need to continue to try to boast about how good the mercs are, everyone already knows.

>>382699904
We need more protags like Dante from DmC.

>>382699630
>"let me explain comedy!"
That's a character bouncing off others. It's basic writing.

>>382699672
They also have amazing chemistry with each other. There was this one thread a while back where anons were writing made up domination lines between TF2 Mercs and Overwatch characters, it was really had to come up with good ones for the Overwatch cast. One anon on that thread said it best:
>"Your ability to have good bants is directly proportionate to your ability to be an asshole."
The TF2 characters likeable qualities doesn't change the fact that they're all psychopaths, it just means that the writers were good enough to make psychopaths that also had likeable qualities.

>>382699974
t. retard.

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>>382700106

>>382699974
>"you disagree with me? you fit this extremely broad spectrum of characteristics!"

Oh god, holy shit I'm getting nostalgia looking at this
>Brianna Wu
I can't believe someone's actually posting this. Summer really is fucking showing. Who gives a flying fuck about Brianna "the man" Wu?

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>>382699942
>liking the TF2 comics
>not Reading the Far superior SAXTON HALE COMICS
You folks need to grow some chest hair

>>382699942
>America is the place I am from. All the time.
Jesus, I love the comic. Can't wait to see the last issue in about 4 years.
Also I'm 90% certain the person drawing the comics is female, people freaking out about muh female writers are ridiculous, /co/ did the same thing when they heard a woman was writing for Rick and Morty S3,. Are you a child afraid of icky girl cooties or something?

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>>382699039
>people on /v/ bitch about /pol/ being everywhere
>therefore they constantly bring /pol/ up

8 years bitch boy.

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>>382698643
Fun fact: Flawed characters are interesting characters.

Look at Daffy Duck, who is either portrayed as absolutely insane or as a greedy incompetent glory hound, or Donald Duck, who is usually portrayed as having extreme anger issues. Both are extremely popular and beloved characters BECAUSE of their flaws, not in spite of.

That's the big problem with modern Mary Sue writing. If your characters are too perfect, they're boring and inhuman.

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>>382700242

>>382700210
>>382700312
>let me prove your point by posting an epic meymey XDD
r u 4 real

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>>382700347

>>382699998
because people want a good new tf2.
overwatch was supposed to be that but failed.

but due to their succesful sales ALL companies are going to be copying them.
EG: quake champions or even Valve with meet your match

>>382699904
The broad spectrum of men who act like women.

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>>382700210

>>382699998
because everytime a tf2 thread is up, someone always brings up Overwatch in some way, shape or form and it derails the thread

TONIGHTS THE NIGHT!

Thursday night, boys. Get hype.

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>>382700587
>>382700590
You cant fool me, its not gonna happen this week

>>382700293
>Point goes flying directly over your head
>thinking 8 years is impressive

so either you're both a liar and a newfag or you've just been a retard for your whole life
which is it?

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>>382700475
>1213138689874.gif
>starts with 12 instead of 04
lmao you fucking googled and got that shit off of knowyourmeme, that is fucking EMBARRASSING

>>382700295
>Fun fact: Flawed characters are interesting characters
Yeah. No shit. But the thing is, these characters haven't been actually developed in the game, only in comics post-release and subsequent updates many many years past its release where these characters and their initial concept was released.

>>382700295
>That's the big problem with modern Mary Sue writing. If your characters are too perfect, they're boring and inhuman.
Mary Sue characters are a big "problem" because they're boring but they're not at a modern phenomenon.

>>382700678
in all honesty its probably thursday

>>382700295
>modern Mary Sue writing
Mary Sues are by no means a modern development

>>382700470
As opposed to you who's bitching about what others do that makes you peeved, instead of getting on with your life like a man would. Grow a fucking backbone anon, you're better than this.

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>>382700708
TWO SCOOPS

TWO TERMS

TWO GENDERS

>>382697219
the guy that recorded this must have been laughing so much

>>382700943
Hes Rei right?

>>382700943
w h o g i v e s a s h i t

>>382687838
all the fan-art proves you're wrong
it has by far some of the best designs

>>382700431
>overwatch was supposed to be that but failed.
No it wasn't. It's a class based shooter by Blizzard. Maybe if it was made by Valve and called Team Fortress 3, you'd have a point, but OW and TF2 are only related by genre. It's like saying Yoshi's Island was supposed to be the new Super Mario Bros. Zero correlation.
>>382700538
It astounds me how riled up people in Tf2 threads get by just mentioning OW.

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>>382700712

>>382701024
i care very much about immigrant retards like you destroying this website. if you don't care, you are obviously one of them

I don't regret buying OW a bit after launch, but I can safely say that it doesn't hold a candle to TF2. I've been playing TF2 for 6 years with 5000 hours, and TF2 just has so much more in both gameplay and general style. So much more soul was put into TF2's creation. Valve wanted something completely unique. Overwatch just feels bland compared to TF2. Boring characters, repetitive gameplay, and uninspired setting. It was fun and I certainly got $40 worth of enjoyment out of it, but I couldn't imagine going back to it in 6 years, it's just not that kind of game to me.

>>382697219
>i don't understand whats wrong with buffing the axestinguisher

>>382700293
Because /pol/ is actually everywhere and anyone who's been here for more than a month would know that. It's always been like this.

>>382700708
Of course he's a newfag. They're all newfags.

>>382700943
oh you're a trumptard. I thought you were showing off how long you've been browsing 4chan
so you HAVE just been a retard your whole life.

>>382700943
All fail.

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>>382701080
>14
do you even have a single 4chan image from 2003 or 2004? Christ almighty what an enormous newfag you are. I bet you don't even know what the numbers in the filename mean.

Because it's become a parody in itself

>>382701103
>uninspired setting.
I could say most of those are wrong but this is pants on heads retarded wrong

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>>382701103
>I don't regret buying OW
goody for you

>>382701060
> It's like saying Yoshi's Island was supposed to be the new Super Mario Bros. Zero correlation

>its the next big platformer!
>it sucks
>well I guess I'll just play mario some more

you have to be pretty autistic if you thought I litterally meant team fortress 3.

>>382701083
>i care very much about immigrant retards like you destroying this website. if you don't care, you are obviously one of them
Kek, if /pol/ was destroyed I'd fucking laugh my ass off. Absolutely no sympathy towards you newfags migrating to /v/ and destroying it.

I pray to god the jannies tighten up and go nuclear on this board so we can get rid all of this /pol/shit. This is a vidya board for fuck's sake, and not a place for your "LE 8 YEARS XDDDD" spam.

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>>382701193
Watching you leftists freak out has been very enjoyable

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>>382701346
>newfags
lol, i was in #raspberryheaven before 4chan existed. know your place and lurk moar.

>>382701346
report and ignore you fucking retard. You think giving them attention is going to make them stop?

>>382701561
>announcing your reports
enjoy your vacation

>>382701346
If /pol/ gets shut down then their presence here will only increase.

>>382701652
Telling someone else to report is not saying I reported, dumbass

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>>382701652

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>>382701561
It's so fucking hard to ignore anon. The board is fucking infected.

>>382701652
le jest right?

>>382701686
I assume so too.

>>382701537
You're the only one freaking out here, guy.

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>>382701201

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>>382701887
here pal, you look like you need this

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>>382695582

>>382701281
Sleek and futuristic isn't quite that original. TF2's 60s spytech setting, on the other hand, is really unique and interesting.

Okay
Seriously

Will valve actually fix the pyro?
These changes they've made in this current update have me worried , I don't see how they could possibly fix the pyro.

>>382701935
Or maybe you do.

>>382695582

this better not be reply or your mother

>>382702004
What's wrong with current pyro? (haven't played in like five centuries)

>>382702004
>implying there is anything wrong with pyro
i haven't played since sniper vs spy, installed the game 2 days ago, my first match was as pyro on 2fort with completely stock loadout and i shot up to 93 points by the end of the game, more than twice the amount of anyone on the enemy team, and 20-some higher than the #2 on my team.

pyro is still easy to use and very effective. you don't need your axtinguisher or whatever the hell to kill anyone.

>>382701652
When did he declare that? He told someone else to report.

>>382698050
She literally has autism

>>382702087
but i'm not the newfag who has so far only posted images from 2012 and up

>>382702174
the same thing thats been wrong with him.

Un-fun to play against
low ceiling
nothing that he can do thats useful
his one skill is outshined by every class

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>>382702004
>Ambassador can't snipe more thank 7 meters away anymore

>Vita can now retain 60% Uber

What were they thinking?

>>382702187
>works for me
>2fort

okay

Who else is preparing for the Pyro storm with Natasha Heavy or Engie?

Old EPIC game made some solid shit talking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12_XltD00Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM6pdn2yR3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeFDgKJRDKw&

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>>382689469
>"Make that 8 to 1
holy fuck i just got that

>>382702481
>the most popular map in team fortress history, from quake up through tf2, and even in derivatives like fortress forever, ET fortress, Q2WF, etc.

why do you mega autists hate 2fort so much? it is the quintessential, best-balanced map in the entire Team Fortress franchise.

>>382702373
literally anything can be unfun to play against
soldier, demo, heavy, and spy are not exactly high ceiling either
Airblasting, being the only other class that can remove sappers, being the only class that has anti water weapons is useful.

>>382684898
>characters can't be American
wat dide he meen by disse

>>382702642
>it is the quintessential, best-balanced map in the entire Team Fortress franchise.

double cross is balanced 2fort you ninny

>>382702642
TFC did it better.

>>382702676
>soldier, demo, heavy, and spy are not exactly high ceiling either
besides heavy you are wrong.

>airblasting
yeah and they might buff that or rework it to be even stronger in the update. I mean right now it's a pretty weak idea to have an ability only work if the enemy decides to shoot at you.

>>382702767
okay yes i can agree with that, and QTF's 2fort4 is the best iteration, but that doesn't automatically mean tf2's 2fort is bad, it's the same map but they shrunk the middle and added a roof on the bridge.

>>382684898
There are uncountable characters which have these traits but all at once is one, unoriginal and two, boring. Thusly very few characters that are new have these traits because very, very few people still thinks it's at all interesting to see.

So welcome to a niche fucking market.

>>382702676
>soldier and demo aren't high skill ceiling
look up jump map speed runs

>>382702319
You are the butthurt retard that for some dumb reason cares about pics are being posted. Also newfag call others newfag

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>>382701103
This, I bought it on sale. It honestly doesn't have much, the lootboxes are a pathetic way to keep people working toward something, but when you get most of the skins you want and keep getting dumbass voice lines or sprays you'll never use, you stop playing.

You're right though, OW doesn't hold a candle to TF2, I think OW's biggest draw was kids and teens who bought it for the few sexy bitches. The designs for all of em look very bland and shitty, they all look like they from some uninspired F2P game. Also the blatant pandering to be inclusive forces you to play someone ugly.

Nothing is funner then getting Uber'd, turning a corner and mowing down 2 lvl 3 engi setups while heavy is screaming at the top of his lungs.

OW feels like it had to have one of everything that was cool to a middle schooler w/o really fleshing out their characters and making them bland. 2 feuding japanese brothers, one being a cyborg ninja... really? Big german 'knight', dwarf engineer, edgelord with a skullmask and shotguns/revolvers.

OW is fun but nothing really makes you feel useful. TF2 Engi can kick ass and are major helps to the team, same with Pyros spychecking.

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>>382702995
>for some dumb reason

>>382702676
>literally anything can be unfun to play against
no, only stuff that takes control from you or doesn't present a challenge just an inconvenience

thats pyros entire design.

>>382702983
jump maps aren't normal gameplay, and nothing you learn in jump maps will ever be applied to normal gameplay. that shit is just as autistic as surf maps.

>>382703146
Good job proving my point.

>only two characters in ow even close to being as entertaining as tf2
>one sucks, another one got nerfed to death
Anyway, feelings about the upcoming spy nerfs? I'm glad braindead shitters can't use the spycicle and DR as a crutch anymore.

>>382703152
So your telling me a FaN scout 2 shotting you unless your a heavy is fun?
A dead ringer spy with spycicle being fire immune to almost 10 seconds is fun?
An Engineer being virtually protecting albeit against bullets cuz he has a Short Circuit is fun?
Anything can be unfun to play against.

>>382686898
Anon, don't even bother. You know how far up their own ass /v/ will reach for an excuse to shit on this game.

>>382703320
i already proved that you were an offsite immigrant long before that post, and it's even more evident by how triggered you currently are

>>382703146
You're kinda proving his point, you're just posting fucking pics.

>>382703328
It's a bit hard to top TF2's characters though, let's just be completely fair. One, TF2 has had many, many years to develop them with webcomics and OW is a relatively new release.

But I agree, TF2 has a character advantage - all of the characters are very distinct and different; it was a design goal the designers put into TF2 to make each class diverse.

>>382703481
So you failed at your point and you failed a life.

>>382701994
it's not just the setting it's the execution
the level design in TF2 is bland as fuck
in Overwatch has way more details in its levels, in terms of color palette, architecture, setting and so on

>>382703481
That was a different anon actually. (me)

I stopped replying because it's pointless shitflinging that I've done already on this site a dozen times before since I'm not new.

>>382690123
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/9/92/Sniper_specialcompleted01.wav?t=20100625223545
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/86/Scout_dominationhvy10.wav?t=20100625232645
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/8d/Demoman_dominationdemoman02.wav?t=20100625230238

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>>382703576
>>382703625

>>382703397
>>So your telling me a FaN scout 2 shotting you unless your a heavy is fun?
yes, because its a fucking FaN scout

>A dead ringer spy with spycicle being fire immune to almost 10 seconds is fun?
hes not immune to fire and I never said it was fun, you are acting like I'm ignoring everything else but I'm simply saying that pyros design is unfun.

>An Engineer being virtually protecting albeit against bullets cuz he has a Short Circuit is fun?

yes actually because he doesn't have the superior wrangler, and it's also a challenge. Just like fighting airblast pyros and tripping them up.

>Anything can be unfun to play against.
If you give up easilly and complain about mechanics being used against you. Sure maybe.

>>382702928
Besides Sawmill it probably has the worst flag room but a decent base and an okay middle. I think the best overall ctf maps are Doublecross and Well.

>>382703730
wrangler is fucking garbage, yes you can use it to have your sentry shoot outside its maximum range, but the moment you need to repair it, it's disabled for 3 seconds which is a guaranteed sentry death

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>>382703127
>>Nothing is funner then getting Uber'd, turning a corner and mowing down 2 lvl 3 engi setups while heavy is screaming at the top of his lungs.

>2Fort
>last round, enemies fucked around with the intel, dropping it over and over for 10 mins before finally capping
>me and a Medic say fuck that
>Medic knows what he's doing with his Vaccinator, gives me perfectly timed mini ubers to wipe out the 5 sentries in their base
>cap the intel 3 times and end the game with a 27 killstreak

>>382703725
Nice pic of yourself there.

>>382703725
>claims to be an oldfag
>spams "ur a redditor!" pics ad nauseum
>calls everyone newfag
>is desperate to prove his oldfaggotry
You'd do your nation a favour by lynching yourself.

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>>382700943
There's a big difference between wanting /pol/ gone because you are a retarded liberal to wanting them gone because they are annoying as fuck.

>>382703682
Thats mostly non-valve map makers doing.

Old valve maps are god tier in visual design, works of art basically.

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>>382703917

>>382703249
there's still a competitive jumping community and tons of dedicated jump servers, and you're dead fucking wrong if you think that nothing from jump maps can be applied to normal gameplay. a good rollout can win a game. plus, a soldier that is good at rocketjumping is the most mobile class in the entire game, which is pretty fucking good in normal gameplay.

not to mention there's shit like airshots and juggling on soldier and demo, even if you do convince yourself that jumping is irrelevant

>>382703970
u muste be a libcuck xddd

>>382703870
>wrangler is fucking garbage
oh my god it makes sense now, the fact that you think pyro is fine. You complain about mechanics.

You're a genuine shitter.

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>>382703941
lol, i have images not available on any shitty archive site, because none of the archives go back this far. not available on any meme databases either because I personally saved it myself. Stay jelly.

>>382702642
People hate 2fort for choke point issues and godawful health/ammo placements. It only gained popularity because of its symmetrical layout and stalemates that can last hours.

>>382699672
Comparing any game's cast to Overwatch's is kind of unfair considering that Overwatch's cast is irredeemable trash. They're all just extremely bland and paper thin stereotypes. Teemo's 5 lines worth of voicework has more character than Overwatch's entire cast.

>>382704069
??? but i never said anything about pyro in this thread, look at my post ID you blind nigger, my first post was the one saying teh wrangler is shit

>>382703882
TF2 gives you fun 'warstories' like this. Where you had to interact with people and can make for some really fun and amazing plays.
OW revolves around ults, everything is just a well timed ult that makes u do a ton of dmg, or shield / rez everyone.

>>382703995
Nope. Why would I be mad about you being a part of reddit?

>>382704198
Oh right I didn't see your ID my mistake.

>>382703328
YER changes are interesting. L'trenger might be mandatory with it now. DR gets what it deserves and indirectly strengthens L'trenger as a better pick to compliment the watch.

>>382704092
I don't give a flying fuck you've been here longer than me, you're not an oldfag but an ancientfag who used a bronze wiring on your mouse to shitpost a hundred years BC. You're not impressing anyone with your textbook stereotypical oldfag complex, and you're especially not impressing anyone by browsing 4chan in your late 30s.

>>382704069
But Wrangler DOES have a medium sized drawback with it having to be player manual controlled and its 3 seconds of being disabled.
3 seconds is all it takes for a demo, heavy or soldier to just blow your shit away.
Not saying its garbage but it does have flaws

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>>382704256
>I'M NOT MAD I SWEAR THAT IS WHY I AM STILL REPLYING TO YOU RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
lol

>>382685045
>/v/ you realize
Answered your own question

>>382704092
Like what? You still seem to be new here

>>382703682
Launch the game and just walk around some of the early/valve maps on a private server and observe. They're incredibly well made, I honestly don't understand how you think they're lifeless and boring. Overwatch just feels like someone said "yeah, take these places and put em in the future" to their map designers. Nothing original about it.

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>>382703882
>enemy grabs the intel
>stand near spawn waiting for them
>see the marker going back and forth
>keep running between doors because I don't know where they're going
>2 minutes later
>YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK TO BASE!
>wheres base?

>>382704439
you are really butthurt that there is a person who has been on a website earlier than you are huh sport?

>>382703882
I love the Vaccinator.

>>382704551
>"I'm super old!"
le troleface ;)

>>382697758
Here come the SJWs...

>>382704635
on a scale of butt to black how mad are you right now at something so irrelevant

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>>382704359
It's ok that you use reddit.

>>382704640
>replying to a post made an hour ago

>>382704686
You're both pretty, now fuck off.

>>382687931
>>382691192
>I post a webm I made and make a joke about that line
>months later someone actually does it
incredible

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>>382704842
i dont use reddit though i use SA and 4chan i am george melons from space station 13 aka SAMelonDude

>>382704551
So you came here just this year?

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this thread has me in fucking tears

>>382704845
who gives a shit, it's a thread

>>382705009
If you think this shitty thread is funny then you'll die in the actually funny ones

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>>382704940
It's ok you are with friends, you can open up to us.

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>>382704980
nah, i was in #raspberryheaven before 4chan existed, since 2001

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>>382705039
I'm just saying. That guy probably isn't even around to give a shit.

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>>382691192
>>382704912
Wait, this is what people are complaining about? Characters being friendly to each other? They're allies, it makes sense, TF2's domination lines are outstanding, but I don't see them problem with 2 characters interacting without insulting one another.

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>>382705328
>tfw go to bed after spending like four hears in a thread
>wake up, thread is still up
>someone replied to me post I made 14 hours ago

>>382705428
>Comrades not having baby's together

Sound like some pretty boring and shitty comrades if they don't even make jokes at eachother expense.

>>382705292
You were on the net when you were just one?

>>382704069
The only good thing about the wrangler is that you can sentry jump with it. The shield is irrelevant because of the disable when you inevitably have to repair it, the DPS boost is irrelevant because you need to manually aim it, and you shouldn't be putting your gun in a place that really requires you to use the wrangler for more range.

I learned something

Never say "engineer" or "heavy" when you're talking to a f2p. Say their name and they will actually respond and change what they're doing.

>>382704912
I remember that webm. It's funny how true it is.

>>382704338
>>382705670
are you guys serious, it's the best secondary for engineer. Maybe even the best secondary upgrade in the game.

>>382705654
I was born in 1984, sport.

>>382685045
you damn right it's played for laughs and thats why he's the most lovable character next to engi and demo

>>382684898
>this is masculine, macho or patriotic according to /v/eddit
Then agian, I don't expect anything else from people who don't have anything but videogames.

>>382705428
Also in TF2:
"Thank you doctor!" "I love this doctor!" "Appreciate it, doc." "You are a great doctor!"

As you can see, TF2's characters are never, ever nice to eachother. It's all domination lines, no matter what you say.

It's almost like as if whoever made that video didn't play the game they were worshipping desu

>>382705892
Sure you were.

>>382689469
"Make that 8 to 1"
I am Brazilian and I kek'd to it.

>>382690369
I dont know man. I like them all. From the Spy to the Heavy. They all have a special place in my heart

>>382704092
How is still being on this website a point of pride for you? Are you retarded? Is this the longest commitment of your life?

I came onto this site a few years ago back when I was still in high school. Who gives a shit?

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>>382684898

>>382705853
i would still hold Short Circuit for best engie secondary due to how destructive its gotten, but thats just me.
Never said Wrangler was shit too.

>>382701881
>REEEEEE POL IS ON MY BOARD

8 years boiyo

>>382684898
>>382686898
>two videogames wasting fuckloads of money on "characters" and "personality"
>when they are fucking multiplayer shooters

These games need to die already.
Overwatch and TF2 have the potential to become a cancer bigger than COD or Battlefield.

>>382705853
okay, then please explain why it's so good and how you are meant to use it, while taking into consideration the enormous downsides. i want to learn how to use this thing, but literally EVERY single time i do, it's either stay in wrangler mode and they end up killing it anyway by corner humping with rockets/grenades, or i switch to wrench to repair and it dies in the 3 sec disabled period.

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>>382689469
>Make that 8 to 1

>>382705428
The line in question is literally two characters taking turns in asking for autographs. I don't think you could make it any more stale if you were literally trying to.

>>382705428
TF2 has positive lines as well, but it's the dominations that really give them flair.

>>382706045
>boiyo
Since when is reddit-speak allowed in here?

>>382706000
>How is still being on this website a point of pride for you?
because i'm an original founding member of the greatest original content creator on the entire internet, regardless of how shit it has become. some day i will fix this place and permaban the millions of immigrants.

>>382706019
short circuit is cool, but its way better on offense like wrangler is way better on defense.

>plop down a lvl 3
>2-3 people notice
>short circuit all the projectiles
>they can't do anything because they're in direct line of fire of the sentry and they prioritize destroying it immediately before running away

>>382700841
And yet they are everywhere now.

>>382689469
Submit this to Blizzard if they have a suggestion forums for Overwatch.

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>>382705145

this is you

>>382684898
>not longer allowed
it does not matter what tumblr says you retarded nu male. Stop listening to special snowflakes

>>382700295
Fun fact: multiplayer games having writing is a stupid as fuck idea and one of the reasons why this industry is garbage, because idea men are poluting it.
Oh boy, a multiplayer shooter, what am I looking for in this?
Why yes, cardboard characters quipping each other, how did you know?

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>people complaining about crossboarding, newfags, and reddit

If you participated in the discussion, you are part of the problem.
Yes I know I am also participating.
I come to this site specificially for the shitflinging, stop pretending like people have good legitimate discussion. It will never happen.

>>382706193
So came to 4chan some time this year and started in /pol/?

>>382706195
>See engie in hallway as Soldier
>Ready to rock his hard hat
>shoot rocket but hear no hit sound
>turn corner and Texan with Short circuit charging me
>Shoot rockets but they keep getting deleted
>Short circuit is suprisingly chewing away at health at an alarming rate
>Reload and get crit wrenched
>YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAW

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>>382689469
>Make that 8 to 1

HO
LY
FUCK

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>>382691192
>Hey, Private Haircut, I might've taken a bit too much off... yer head!

>>382706070
Good positioning and the rescue ranger.
Team that is slightly competent

Nearly IMPOSSIBLE to destroy because it has near 700 hp.

I know I make it sound like it's god like, but yeah of course if your team sucks the sentries going to blow up. But a good team with a good wrangler will make a sentry push into a nothing push. Its absurdly powerful, go look up people talking about it I can't do it justice.

>>382706193
>greatest original content creator on the entire internet

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>>382689469
>>382695582
I'm finally enjoying the true Reddit Experience 2017 edition!
This is how to fix these multiplayer games, with these epic as fuck quips of epicness!