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anyone else hyped for this? Finally all the bullcrap of IP copyright

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anyone else hyped for this?

Finally all the bullcrap of IP copyright and companies removed from the game and back to just pure fighting game mechanics
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>>382665276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRHi9oyMXqE
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Combofiend is not wrong while also being a hypocrite.

He says characters are just a function which is objectively true, but then wasted a space just so his main Spencer could stay in when we could have go Wesker or viewtiful joe
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>>382665941
20 bucks says Black Panther is going to have wolverine's moveset.
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>>382665941
Characters are just function, that's true, but not in cross-over games.
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>>382665276
Saying that about a goddamn crossover game was the dumbest shit.

Maybe people like Magneto because he's goddamn Magneto. Despite Marvel desperately wishing otherwise, people very much remember the X-Men.
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>>382665941

Spencer has a unique niche with his arm that isn't as easily replicated as Magneto's boring ass tri-dash rushdown moveset.

Magneto had only three moves that had ANYTHING to do with gravity and magnetism as a concept and of them, only two were useful in niche areas.

You could rework him to be more of a zoner and controller, but then babies would still cry because he plays differently.
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>>382666808
Because the shallow ass MCU is all that matters now. Fuck Marvel
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>>382666825
Spencer, especially Dreds "My wife is my arm" Spencer, has little to no fanbase to draw people in for this game. Whereas clover studios games helped launch MVC3 hype.
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>>382666542
this. the whole point of crossovers is fan service, but disney said no. make it a shilling platform for marvel.
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>>382667593
Whats worse is when this game flops, Disney will never give capcom the rights again because of how protective they are of the brand.
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>>382665941
>>382665941
Combofiend didn't say that I thought
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DUDE FUNCTIONS LMAO
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>>382665276
I'm so sad my main didn't make it into the starting roster, f(x)=x^2+5x+4, where x=-2 as lim->0. He's been there from the start.
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>>382667248
bionic commando itself is way less popular than spencer in mvc is.
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>>382665276
>Hardcore players for a series that has been supported by a hardcore fanbase only care the mechanics and are uninterested in anything else

Is combofiend literally retarded? DmC proved that shit wrong. Even though the DmC rerelease on next gen played really well and actually was up to par, the character and presentations were such garbage that it didn't sell.
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>>382666542
>>382665941
No they're fucking not. This is the most erroneous shit any mouthbreather has ever uttered about video games and you have to be a hyper autist to genuinely believe this.

Character and character design are more important in fighting games than any other genre. How else are you going to pick which character out of a dozen or more to play as? People who play a fighting game for thousands of hours and know the mechanics and every character's moveset like the backs of their hands tend to forget this. And faggot "hardcore gamers" tend to forget that video games are a visual medium in general. Our enjoyment from video games doesn't come from the mechanical act of pressing inputs, it comes from the visual and aural stimulus that is brought about by that act. No one would play a game a like this >>382665303. It could be the best game ever mechanically, but no one outside a few turbo autistic manchildren would even bother picking it up due to it being visually unappealing and unsatisfying to play.

There's a reason everyone shits on this turd of a game for looking like complete ass, even though the gameplay doesn't look like it has any major issues outside being dumbed down to 2v2s again.
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>>382669776
same
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>>382666542
Agreed with >>382670984
Sometimes I am able to just play a fighting game and say "Hey, this character looks fun to play" but more often than not, I'm fairly impartial just with regards to moveset alone, i.e. I could main any one of the characters for all I care, and so the deciding variable is usually which character I think is cool.

Really, would Guilty Gear be half as fun if not for the crazy cast full of veritable explosions of personality? After all, consider that the mechanics of the game were explicitly designed such that playing the game would be like watching an anime fight scene, which is an aesthetic end. Hell, even something like Street Fighter is built around the concept of a fighting tournament rather than the physics, hitboxes and mechanics, which naturally developed around the concept.
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>>382665276
>>382670984
>>382672512


I'm sorry, i'm seeing a lot of talk about the fighting game community here, I'm gonna need to see your receipts for pre-ordering your copies of MVC Infinite for proof that you're a member of our community.
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>>382672954
but I'm not part of the FGC I only play fighting games for the story mode hence I'm buying MVCI
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>your function didn't get in
What was her name, /v/?
They discarded my Spider-Man function.
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WHEN'S FUNCTION???!!!
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>>382672954
I downloaded the demo and that was enough to make me cancel my preorder, Capcom and Marvel, specially Marvel can fuck themselves. Even the retards at DC/NRS managed to make a better roster than MvCI.
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>>382673740
Spiderman function is DLC according to the leak
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>>382673740
>They discarded my Spider-Man function
Wait, didn't the leaks say Spidey was in?
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I don't know anything about the community but I enjoy these games.
Is combofiend a developer?
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>>382673998
>Spider-Man function is DLC
Jesus Christ Capcom. They always find away to disappoint me even when I expect nothing of them anymore.
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>>382665276
Jesus you r/kappa posters are trying so hard to make something out of this functions thing. You fags just want to shit on something for the sake of shitting on it.
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>>382673998
>Capcom has no new reps besides Sigma
>Sigma is DLC
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>>382666808
>>382667005
The MCU focus is an excuse to hide Perlmutter's embargo on characters whose movie rights are owned by Fox (which he's doing completely out of spite).
Perlmutter doesn't even have authority over the MCU movies anymore after Feige and Disney got tired of his shit
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>>382665276
>hyped?
NO
shitty graphics
shitty roster
some chars look like shit

basically i went from "cool a new mahvel" to "buy on steam sale around 2019" literally
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>>382672512

This is exactly it. Great fighting games design gameplay around character quirks, not the other way around. You take a character like Faust, decide what his personality is like and build a fighting style around it. If you took the same moveset and made the animations straightforward and all of the keep away stuff just boxes or something, he wouldn't be nearly as interesting.
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>>382666542
>>382665941
Players like Lythero prove this is not true by managing to play well with "joke" characters like Joe and Phoenix Wright who are terrible as raw 'functions' and super gimmicky. But he plays them because he likes the characters.
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>>382675128

Pic related.
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>>382674525
Literally no other genre and no other company could get away with saying this or making a fraction of the the million mistakes Capcom has made with SFV or MVC:I.
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>>382674665

I know Capcom is fucking up the visuals but part of me feels bad for them. Their hands are tied by this fucking manbaby and the game will likely bomb for it.

I mean, their roster isn't everything it could be either though. I hope they beef it up a lot come launch.
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>>382674525

No, it just speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding of what the majority of players want from fighting games.

I mean, yeah, he's trying to put a PR spin on a shitty situation but it's such an awful thing to communicate to your consumers about a game whose gimmick is crossing over characters from disparate franchises.

MvC exists because of the characters alone.
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>make crossover game
>the characters are literally important because it's a fucking crossover fantasy world where your favorite heroes fight each other
>don't put characters the audience wants

Fucking kek it's like having Smash Bros but without Mario characters
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>>382674525
>Well we saw that Captain Falcon was just a function in Smash as a hard hitting physical character will fast fall speed and high combo capabilities.

>And I feel like players will feel right at home with Fighter from kid icarus who fills that roll well. He has a high fall sleep, hard hitting moves, and high combo capabilities just like Captain Falcon players are used to.
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>>382665941
This is correct, like it or not.

>But I want Magneto and Doom and Wolverine!

And if they were nerfed to the level of Thanos in marvel 2, you would never ever see them online or in a tournament. People will go to the top tier. The top tier is not top because their character ips are cool
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>>382670984
This, holy fuck.
Never mind the fact that this game is marketed towards /co/fags and nerds like us that could care less how good the gameplay is when all we wanna do is watch Ryu and Ironman reenact every beamclash scene form DragonballZ.

Im overexadurating a bit but really i could care less about this game if Dante wasn't in it.
There is a reason why nobody fucking wants "new" characters in SFV even though they may play like your main(they won't lol) nobody cares because they aren't really the same character.
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>>382676560
But wouldn't smash be better with just wireframes?
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>>382665276
No X-men no buy.

Seriously what the fuck is with these games? No Mega Man in MVC3 and now no X-men in MVCI. It's like Capcom and Marvel are scared of making a game better than MVC2. And worse still, you can't even buy the HD rerelease of MVC2 anymore.
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>>382676880
>Seriously what the fuck is with these games?
Disney.
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>>382676680
but Falcon players never even played F-Zero anyway, so he is basically a function to them except for those who have, who are cool
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>>382670305
DMC is not an esport
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>>382675505
The roster is so shit it's not even funny.
I was expecting it to be bad from marvels side but Jesus fucking Chist i didn't expect capcom to literally use zipfile assets from MvC3.

The fact that half the roster is DLC is even fucking worse.
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I'm sure it's been said before, but the whole big deal about MvC was that HOLY SHIT I CAN HAVE SPIDERMAN BE ON THE SAME TEAM AS RYU
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>>382676986
Perlmutter
See >>382674665
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>>382676741
see >>382675197
Not to mention that there are people in my local scene who play characters like Wright, Felicia, Sentinel, Haggar, Captain America, etc. Whether YOU like it or not, people in local scenes outnumber tournament champions.
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>>382677220
Nope, what we wanted this whole time was a few functions modeled to look like coke-whores
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Watch Desk's videos.. Basically every combo hit will be a 20 second cutscene of the same combos we've seen for 5 years with a gem gimmick every now and then. It looks like the most boring fucking fighting game in a decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZfbjRHaIWw

I'd honestly rather watch Injustice.
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Why the fuck does he even need to say the functions thing.

Everyone knows the reason X-men isn't there is Disney.
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How bad do your nostalgia goggles have to be to bitch about Disney/Marvel wanting to shill characters that are relevant and sell and not realizing that half the roster in MvC2 was X-Men for the exact same reason. (And also because the entire game was reused assets, but still)

Do you really think anyone in 2017 gives a shit about Marrow, Silver Samurai, Omega Red, etc. on the Marvel roster? No. They barely care about X-Men. Sales have been tanking for years now and time and again it's been proven the only characters the average person gives a shit about now is Wolverine, Magneto, and Mystique, and she's only on the list because of J. Law nudes.

Do you know how many Avengers lost spots to shit tier X-Men characters in MvC2 just for the sake of advertising? Everyone but Cap, Iron Man/War Machine, and Hulk. Now they're getting their dues because they actually sell comics/movie tickets and you cry? How dumb are you that you don't see it's always been about advertising? X-Men is beyond garbage right now, that's not something they want to draw attention to. They don't give a shit about renewing your interest in some faggy 90s cartoon.

Get over yourselves. Every time I see Gambit on some rosterfag's list I vomit.
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>>382675291
So why are EA and Ubisoft still around?
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>>382677897
>they barely care about X-Men
>Logan has a $619 million gross
Really makes you think.
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>>382678146

>Hugh Jackman's final performance Wolverine, a character probably more well known than the term X-Men, sold seats

Stop the fucking presses.
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>>382677897
On the whole I agree, and I do think that it's kind of hypocritical since X-Men shilling in the old games was just like MCU shilling now (seriously, Marrow over Thor or Ghost Rider?), but Deadpool is more popular than most if not all of the Avengers at this point.
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>>382666825
Yeah but did anyone like reboot Spencer? Like at all? Could have just got the radical 80's man and no one would have complained.
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>>382677585
How anyone can watch the lame out the clock borefest that is Injustice2 is fucking beyond me.
The zoning is actually WORES then in Injustice 1.
Good fucking god.

I took the time to watch the entire top 8 for CEO and literally all it was was people waking up with tridendrush, laming it out with Black Adam and a lone scarecrow battling the tierlist by only using tournament certificate moves, AKA 1/10 of his movelist.

I would take 3 smashgames at EVO over that shit anyday.
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>>382675128
GG is full of characters that had their gameplay conceived first and the aesthetics after, as some of the completely retarded animations will attest. If you're suggesting you could have Faust be functionally identical with totally different animations you're admitting this works.

MvC2 had a cast 99% decided by vanity with no gameplay consideration which is how you end up with 10/56 characters being relevant.
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>>382678297
What are you trying to say with this post, Wolverine is the poster boy of the X-Men and has given the X-Men attention for decades.

If you care about Wolverine, you care about the X-Men.
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>>382677897
But the art for old X-Men was actually good. MCU Marvel is fine for a live action movie but in a game series known for a cartoony flair they all just look/feel dull and lifeless.
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>Capcom and Disney think people know who the fuck Black Panther is
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>>382679154
They WANT people to know who he is because of the upcoming movie. That's why he's the DLC Darling.
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>>382666825
>Magneto had only three moves that had ANYTHING to do with gravity and magnetism as a concept and of them, only two were useful in niche areas.
Throw, Repulsion and its other two variations, Flight, Gravitation, Disruptor, Magnetic Blast + Supers.

I know you're going full blown retard but holy shit.

>>382674525
>>382676741
>>382677897
Capcbros shilling for Capbucks
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Thor has no place in this game, neither does Captain Marvel.
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>>382679571

>Throw everyone can use
>Flight that 1/4 of the cast can use
>Generic projectiles with magnet in their names

What a master of magnet
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>>382675235
Honestly GG is too much, most characters are ridiculously overdesigned and the lore and story is so edgy I can't even read a paragraph of it without rolling my eyes. Shame because the game is dope.
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>>382679919
>throw and flight are just functions everyone can use
>i don't like how they stylized the projectile so it has nothing to do with the character
wew
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>>382679154
>>382667593
>>382669123
>>382677847
It's not Disney's fault for the embargo
It's Ike Perlmutter, CEO of Marvel Entertainment because of his petty grudge against Fox.
He doesn't even have control over the MCU movies anymore because even Disney didn't like him
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see you guys on release date. it's going to be a great show.
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>No Dr. Fucking Doom
This shouldn't be allowed.
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My IRL friends don't play fightan as much as they used to, and I hate being an online warrior, so even if this game was a perfect fighter I personally would be hesitant. However, this game looks like shit, the amount of re-used MVC3 assets is disgusting (and just makes me want to play MVC3 instead). So with that, I am probably going to skip out on this game, and possibly buy it later when it goes on sale.
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>>382679945
GGXrd completely takes the edge out of the water though
>Venom becomes a baker
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>>382680424
>Day one DLC for costumes, 6 characters, and the other 2 gems that they haven't shown off yet

>Netcode will be garbage

>Release tourney with a bunch of bugs and people doing cheap lame tactics

>Cringy story mode has a fuckton of terrible writing memery
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>>382677897
The last X-men movie that wasn't trash did extremely well, and Fox considers them relevant enough to keep making them.
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>>382681271
Nah you just want double air dash :^)
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>>382682204
Not to mention that the Deadpool and Wolverine movies were more financially and critically successful than Apocalypse.
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>characters don't matter, only their functions
>use characters to shill deluxe edition without showing gameplay

what did they mean by this
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>>382682806
They're just reaching for excuses instead of just coming out and saying that Marvel's ruining the production, mostly out of petty animosity towards Fox.
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>>382666450
IF true, I'd hate that shitty character even more than I do now.
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>>382682930
Yeah, overall it's NOT entirely Capcom's fault, but the function statement had to be the worst answer possible. Honestly, the whole embargo wouldn't matter if the cast focused on new characters/fan favorites. No one cares about half of either side of the roster, because they're not fresh and they're not the big draws. Hell, characters people would normally be okay with (Cap and Chun) look like shit for no understandable reason. The roster is less interesting than vanilla MvC3, and that's with recycling a lot of MvC3. It just feels like a rush job, and a rush job where Ike Perlmutter stopped them from even having fun at all.
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>>382680401
So Disney can't put xmen characters in even if they wanted.
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>>382683503
They can, hence MvC3. Fox only has rights to X-Men movies.
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>>382683639
So it is Disneys fault then?
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>>382683639
f4 already forgotten, kek
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>>382674525
Oh shut up Combofiend
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>>382683735
Nobody cares about the F4.
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What I don't understand if why Chris is still using his RE5 getup when he has had two mainline games and a movie to change his appearance by now. Surely boulder punching Chris wasn't THAT popular that they felt the need to include him again.
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Yeah guys just gotta have the character who cares how they play

Just like Juri in SFV. She is loved by waifu fags.

Oh wait, no one plays her because she fucking blows ass
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>>382680401
Disney owns marvel

Ergo there is someone above Perlnutter who could remove him.
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>>382684331
But anon. That's Mexican Chris
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>>382681328
reused assets isnt new to marvel games
marvel is the OG mugen
the problem is that they chose the wrong characters to bring back
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>Marvel ruins their comics
>Cancels any good cartoon
>Ruins their games with MCU shit

and people wonder why DC is doing so much better than them in every aspect that isnt movies
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>>382681271
What the fuck does doom even do? he has eletric powes and a metal mask. I cant even name the fantastic 4
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>>382685940
>spectacular spider-man was canned because they wanted to promote ultimate buckley-man
I'm still buttmad.
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>>382686174
the best part is that the good episodes of USM were done by paul dini, a guy who mainly writes for DC
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>>382686089
Hes a man who understands his priorities
along with trying to piss off richards whenever possible
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>>382684331
because 80% of the game is copied and pasted from UMVC3.

Hell the only reason X got in is because his skin was already in the Zero zip file.

Just looks at how lame and unoriginal all the new level 3s are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7kPwxct1rk
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>Tfw more excited for Lego Marvel 2 than fucking MvC

I hate this timeline
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>>382673740
My functionfu didn't get in. Also it should have been DMC4 Dante.
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>>382688607
Lego Marvel 2 doesn't have X-men either. It's a commercial for movies, just like everything Marvel makes these days because they're trash.
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>>382673740
>yfw your function is still in the game, but instead of being the last masculine entity in canada, its a KANG.
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>>382683503
Nope
>>382683639
>>382683727
Perlmutter's embargo wasn't at full swing at that time
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>>382679514
>want the public to know about Black Panther
>include him as day 1 DLC instead of having him in the default roster
Are they fucking retarded?
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>>382688607
Lego Marvel 2 and Lego Avengers at least compensates over Perlmutter's embargo
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>>382687781
It's nice how all the new supers consist of throwing the opponent over your head and shooting them with some kind of energy.
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>>382681328
>the amount of re-used MVC3 assets is disgusting
What's even worse is that they couldn't even be fucked to add everyone from UMvC3, the roster in this ones is smaller than VANILLA MvC3 and that's WITH the day one DLC characters. What a fucking slap in the face, Capc u c ks deserve to be purged for supporting this garbage.
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>>382689754
The lack of X-Men definitely sucks but at least this one looks like an improvement over the first in every other capacity unlike Lego Avengers which was goddamn terrible. There's an actual big hub again instead of a bunch of little crappy ones and an original plot made up of actual comic book shit that isn't jut retreading the movies.
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>>382672512
I picked up T Hawk because he looked cool
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>>382667593
FUCK that small gif looks GORGEOUS. The art direction on Capcom today is literally nothing compared to what it was.
Literally no reason to play MvC:I over the original iterations.
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>>382665276
>ugly models
>no X-Men, a.k.a. the side RESPONSIBLE for the MvC franchise in the first place
>no Jin, Guile, Nash, Hayato, CapCom, Vile, Leon, Power Stone rep, etc.

I have literally no reason to buy this trash. All I want from Capcom is just MvC2 with more characters, but that's a pipe dream.
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>>382693064
>Reuses blackened-out hammerspace animation from UMVC3 without actually using it for hammerspace or having the screen blackened out

>Result is a raccoon doing 7 somersaults in place to then get a prop handed to him from the sky
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Go fuck yourself, Crapcom
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>>382693848
Why does this game look so fucking cheap?
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>>382673921

The e3 version played better then the shit demo they put out on the psn store.

They should of just not released a demo or put out the e3 build onto the store.
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>>382693746
>>382693848

I would be more excited if they brought back for Steam and current gen consoles the "HD" version of MvC2 from PS3/XB360 and MvC Origins, just like UMvC3 did, than I would ever be for this abomination they're making now. Even though X and Sigma were the new characters I wanted to have the most.
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>>382665276


I'm excited to watch tournaments, but I'm not excited at all to get he game as a product, even with Nemesis and Venom.
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>>382672512
>Really, would Guilty Gear be half as fun if not for the crazy cast full of veritable explosions of personality?
Yes it would, scrub. And don't conflate design with story.
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>>382665941

He just poorly phrased his answers. He should have said something like "see, if your favorite character didn't make the launch roster, we were sure to make his gameplay be represented, so people won't feel lost coming to Infinite"
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>>382674432

That pic is just a montage someone did to fit the datamined characters. Ryce said Spidey is launch roster.
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>>382694415
Yeah but I don't care if it played like shit, I'm more worried about the shitty roster because Perlmutter is a cunt and he doesn't wanna promote X-Men characters.

Like I said before, even Injustice 2 did a better job appealing to their fans.
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>>382670984
>Our enjoyment from video games doesn't come from the mechanical act of pressing inputs
You're free to stop playing video games anytime.
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>>382677897
>half the roster in MvC2 was X-Men for the exact same reason
Half the roster in MvC2 was X-Men because the series started as X-Men vs. Street Fighter, idiot.
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>>382686089
He studies doomology.
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>>382695824
Technically you can count X-Men: Children of the Atom as the first one in the series.
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>>382677897
>How bad do your nostalgia goggles have to be to bitch about Disney/Marvel wanting to shill characters that are relevant

Sure they want characters who are relevant, but if that's all the cared about they would never have had Shuma Gorath or Blackheart in the series and Venom would've been there a lot sooner.
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>>382677897

If the series started with the Avengers, and there was no Avengers on MVCI, people would bitch the same way. It's about the legacy.
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>>382669123
maybe, but disney are too big of money grubbing jews to just not tap into the mainstream gaming market. they are probably doing good in the phone games market, but they have yet to rake in the cash in mainstream games like they have in movies and in their head the marvel ips are the only things that gamers might want

i really want to see what that squenix marvel game is and see if disneys failed jew tactics will make them yet another flop game, seriously disney cant make games worth shit, the closest to a success hey had was like battlefront
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>>382695673
>>382695673
you are basically saying you can just press buttons on a controller that isnt plugged in and have fun because of the mechanical interaction alone
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>>382686089
Magic and tech.

The guy has the biggest pool of potential gameplay mechanics.
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>>382677897
what you are saying is that if capcom's roster only had street fighter, resident evil, and monhun you would try to justify it because those are the "relevant" games currently
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>>382683123
>Black Panther
>shitty character
/pol/shit pls
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>>382699429
tell us why black panther is interesting
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>>382699429
He is kinda lame mate, he is only good when he is with the illuminati.
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>>382665276
Nice bait m8. But reverse shilling is still shilling. Look at what Capcom has done. Akuma is now homeless.
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>>382697712
If you're pressing buttons on a controller that isn't plugged in, there is no mechanical interaction, you brainlet.
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>>382699429
He is shitty. Have a Black super hero and shove the word BLACK is his name. War-machine is a much better super hero. Its racist tagging any character with their race. Marvel is basically saying he has the word black in the name so all black people should buy this comic.

If you think Black Panther is a great hero your part of the problem.
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tfw they'll never just rerelease UMvC3 with the 12 new characters they're putting in Infinite.
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>>382701132
Because he's king of an isolated nation of cultural snobs and is forced to try and satisfy his kingdom while communicating with the outside world.
He has to put up with bullshit in and out of Wakanda on a regular basis
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>>382699429
>Meta human Batgod
>Good character.
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>>382699429
bp is a mary sue
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>>382702086
>Marvel is basically saying he has the word black in the name so all black people should buy this comic.
I doubt that's what Kirby and Stan had in mind during his inception
They just wanted to make an African superhero to debut in an issue of The Fantastic Four and probably thought Black Panther sounded cool (they used the name before the movement showed up)
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>>382702940
>Black Panther
>metahuman
what?
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>>382702839
Why isnt he called King Panther then? Why did Marvel give him a fucking blacksploitation name?
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>>382701132
I looked him up on a Marvel wiki and he can apparently control zombies or something.

Aside from that he just has superhuman strength, speed and intellect. Probably helps tons when he robs the local 7/11.
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>>382670984
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>>382703157
Basically Meta human.
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>>382703050
The great Black super hero. Created by white guys.
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>>382703245
Black Panther is a royal and religious title in Wakanda.
His father was the Black Panther and his father before him and etc.
Stan Lee said the name was inspired by how there was a pulp hero accompanied by a black panther while Jack Kirby's original name for T'Challa was Coal Tiger.
He didn't debut in a Black Panther issue, he showed up in a Fantastic Four issue and only got his own ongoing because he was popular with readers at the time
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>>382703690
They just made up a reason to put black in the name. The fact that they invented lore to explain it is even worse. Heres lore to explain racist name.
You want a well done black super hero John Stewart is your guy.
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>>382699429
>Batman but with an invulnerable suit, unbreakable nails, and an entire country of rich super technology instead of just a multinational congolomerate.

>He also can control zombies, has a goddess for a wife, and is the richest and smartest man in African

>Also everyone knows his identity because he is the king

What an intriguing character. Hopefully he will develop storylines and plot elements naturally rather than just being shoehorned into comics for 35 years as a token

There are tons of good black superheroes with amazing stories (GL John Stewart) but black panther is not one of them
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>>382665276
ITT: people that don't read comics crying about comic book characters not being in that they likely only know from childhood cartoons
The irony of bitching about MCU selections is dripping from my monitor
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>>382704413
Have you read Christopher Priest's run on the character?
Also, Storm and T'Challa are no longer a thing
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>>382704282
t. someone that has never read a comic in their life about either character

Mosaic is the sole John Stewart story worth a damn. I guarantee you're a JLUfag that doesn't even know that version of John was basically an OC.
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>>382704413
>richest and smartest man in African
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>>382704657
>Thinks John, planetkiller, Stewart isn't the shit.

Fuck off mogo
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>>382678297
Except it's not
and who the fuck was Jackman before getting the Wolverine role?
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>>382704519
>I'll assume that you don't read the original source material, fucking secondaries!
>You're not allowed to like these characters because of that!
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>>382704876
>implying Geoff Johns has ever written a good JS when he's so busy jerking off to Hal
lol
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>>382665941
If character's are just functions then what's the fucking point of using pre-existing properties in a fighting game?

People want to play as the characters they like, it's wish fulfillment. You can give Wolverine's moveset to Black Panther but it's not the same to people.
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>>382665276
Played the demo and it was visually shitty and played just as shitty.

Are people memeing when they say they're hyped?
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>>382705030
>original Vs games were a giant X-men jerkoff session cause the cartoon was hot shit
>this is fine cause I grew up with that
>current Vs game is a giant MCU jerkoff session cause now the movies are hot shit
>this isn't fine cause now I'm an angry manchild
Yeah, pretty much.

I'm not saying this game doesn't look like shit, but complaining about the roster while pretending MvC2's marvel selection was okay is bullshit.
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>>382704519
Nah, you're just being a dumb contrarian for the sake of it.

>>382705440
I never gave a shit about the X-Men cartoon and was fine with the roster in the earlier Vs games. Fuck the fans for wanting those good characters to return, right? Hang yourself.
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>>382665276
I love how when MvC finally gets a story mode, it's the most safe MvC roster in existence with fucking terrible forced interactions.
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>>382665303
Why is there no female function?
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>>382707106
>forced interactions
Literally crossover game 101.
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>>382687781
>Cap got a new level 3 when Final Justice is a fucking classic and has been his level. 3 since forever
>Dante still has the lame Level 3 he had in MvC3 instead of getting something new
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>>382673740
Still missing FUNC_SHOTO_XMEN
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>>382686089
Second best scientist in the Marvel universe, armour on par or exceeding Iron Man, army of robots that shit all over Ultron and the second strongest sorcerer in the Marvel universe.

He's the ultimate combination of magic and tech. He could do anything.
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>>382707365
I dunno about other games, but outside of the 'jokes', characters in PxZ talk to each other in at least a semi-normal way.
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No, i'm a DC kek. I'm waiting for GOTY or whatever edition of Injustice 2. It's too fucking expensive right now, holy shit. I mean, 99 bucks.
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>>382680401

Why Disney execs doesn't outjew him and send him to fuck off already?
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>>382685940

>every aspect that isnt movies
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>>382710709
you retarded or something
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>>382665276
I guess it's time to post the most unpopular opinion about this game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZLoY8XJYtQ
I think the game looks pretty good on the CEO demo. Even characters like Dante or Chun looked good in motion.

the roster will probably have 36-40 characters, not just 28 and in that case it will be alright

MVCI will probably have a good online and netcode since Sony and Microsoft are providing dedicated servers for the game and it won't have cross-play that fucked up SFV's netcode.


MVCI will probably be solid and I'm sure people shitposting about it (like 98% of the people who know about it) only do so because they are 100% sure at the weak roster leaks (even tho not even the leaker is sure about it) and they don't realise that the bad visuals are mostly from an outdated build.
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i guarantee you not a single one of the thousand people who played umvc3 competitively and had spencer on their team actually played that xbox 360 wife arm commando game. none of the billion people with dormammu anchors ever read a dr strange comic, none of the gimlet spammers ever picked up matt fraction's hawkeye trades, and the only thing they know about dr doom is that he sometimes showed up in the spider-man animated cartoon and said "richaaards" a lot.

none of you fags are comic book fans and ironically you're not even video game fans, and capcom knows this. they're going to put in a bunch of characters you've never heard of and you're going to play them and say you were an oldschool fan just like you did with modok and super skrull and every other character you had no familiar with whatsoever until marvel 3 came out.
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>>382712115

Ryce's 28 characters are most likely in, cause no one would guess fucking Gamora. The datamime threw him off only because he thought the roster would be 28, but now it might be 32~34
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>>382712158
I never read Dr. Strange until Dormmamu was in but I actually got into it after I found him to be fun to play. M.O.D.O.K. was the same. If they had the garbage models MVCI has I probably wouldn't have bothered though.
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>>382712487
his characters are in the game, but people mostly got upset about the game because he said that these will be the only characters which seems pretty unlikely now.
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When's Darkstalkers
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Who gives a shit about Marvel at this point, I want another X-Men fighter.
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>>382715335
Yfw FOX gives Capcom the rights to do an X-Men(movie) vs. Street fighter infinite with huge jackedman voicing wolverine and everything
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>>382715695
That's not how it works
Fox has the film rights, Marvel has the game rights.
Perlmutter, CEO of Marvel, hates Fox so he excludes X-Men despite how he longer has control over the MCU films because Feige and Disney hated his meddling
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>>382715695
At least we'd be getting functions people know and care about.
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>>382714179
Resurrection
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They should've just pulled a netherealms and made an avenger fighting game with similarities to Street Fighter. Then no one could complain, and the game would probably have a bigger budget
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>>382715867
I can only imagine how insufferable someone like that has to be
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>>382717786
Just give me a fighting wave with Nextwave characters.
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Where all the Ghost Rider players at?
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>>382717786
Holy shit how the fuck do you mess up the monster hunter cat thingy that badly?
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>>382718000
That's not even his worse trait.
He's notoriously stingy in how he doesn't replace supplies, provide catering, etc
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>>382719909
That's why he got kicked off of the MCU, right?
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>>382719765
EAT CHAIN
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>>382720050
>THR reports it all came to a head during filming of Captain America: Civil War as Feige is said to have been frustrated with the "notoriously frugal" Ike Perlmutter.
>It's been said that Feige was so frustrated that he went to Disney's Bob Iger and threatened to quit Marvel if Perlmutter didn't get out of the way.
>Disney obviously recognized what they had with Feige, and now has Feige report directly to Disney Studios chief Alan Horn, while Perlmutter still retains control of Marvel TV and Marvel Comics (which is the real reason why you won't see the Marvel TV/Netflix characters in a movie any time soon).
>Captain America: Civil War director Joe Russo confirmed their frustrations with Perlmutter: "We've been on that [Marvel] journey from Winter Soldier, and it may have been some story points from Civil War that caused the civil war within Marvel," Joe Russo offered. "I think that there were years when Kevin was absorbing the pain inflicted on the company."
>Joe Russo further says that now the atmosphere at Marvel Studios is "much healthier, happier" and is paving the way for "really compelling choices," with the hiring of Taika Waititi to direct Thor: Ragnarok and Ryan Coogler to direct Black Panther, which sounds like something that may not have happened under Perlmutter.

http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/kevin-feiges-battle-against-ike-perlmutter-came-head-during-captain-america-civil-war

Perlmutter also wanted Inhumans to replace the X-Men but that failed and his Inhumans movie was his last leg.
Feige didn't see the need of an Inhumans movie and when Perlmutter got the boot, the Inhumans movie became a tv show
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>>382674432
Fucking this to the max.

I stopped caring after the release of MvC3. Yes, before UMvC3. Yet every time I hear Capcom news I am severely let down. They are trying to piss me off, i swear.
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>>382666825
pencer's "unique arm" can easily be replicated by spidey, doc octopus, tessa, nero, dalshim, mr. fantastic, ruby heart's anvil and omega red.
And guess what? all of those characters are alot cooler than spencer
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>>382720373
I can only imagine how good MvCI would be if Marvel Studios, not Marvel Entertainment, was in charge. It's retarded that we don't even have that many characters from the movies, you could build a much bigger roster if you had people like Scarlet Witch, Vision and Red Skull in there.
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>>382677585
>2:33

You cant be fucking serious with this broken gem shit

Goddammit Capcom
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>PhotojournalistFunction is DLC
>They won't bother getting TJ to voice him
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>>382665276
>anyone else hyped for this?
Literally nobody except for capeshit faggots.
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>>382673740
>doom will never be in this game
fuck you pearlbutter or whatever the fuck you are called
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>>382704282
>John Stewart
>Done right

John is what you get when you take a CoD tard and give him a ring.
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>>382712919
All playable characters are getting variants

Seeing as how winter solider dormamu and ghost rider have no comics it seems like 28 is the final roster
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>>382708732
I know Doom goes nuclear over REED RICHAAAAAAAAARDS but what does he think of Doctor Strange?
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>>382722518
Begrudging respect, mostly. Dr. Strange helped free his mother's soul from Hell.

I mean, Doom isn't above blasting in the back in Dr. Strange's own home, but he doesn't go out of his way to make Strange's life miserable. The world needs a sorcerer supreme to guard it, afterall.
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I WANNA TAKE YOU FOR A RI-
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>>382686089
He has magic powering his tech and Doombots capable of using magic.
Also has his own kingdom full of citizens who unironically adore him.
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>>382722985
This doesn't make me want to see X in anything anymore. I'm content with him staying dead/irrelevant next to Zero.
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>>382674665
X-Men, Fantastic 4 (always a wasted license only having Dr. Doom and Skrull), Deadpool, etc. wouldn't of fixed the core issues with the game. This guy is my hero because the game can't use these characters as foundation to hold up this rotting structure of a game.
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>>382723527
But Zero's in too.
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Capcom and Marvel both deserve each other at this point. I don't want neither of them tainting any other franchises.
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>>382723702
>This guy is my hero
Are a lot of insufferable faggots heroes to you?

Perlmutter probably is part of the reason the game is so fucking cheap looking. He's a stingy piece of shit.
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>>382724179
pls remove Gwenpool from this image, she's a qt!
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Never seen a game split the FGC like this. Going to be a literal Civil War when this releases.
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>>382724281
I hate Permlutter but that's most likely Capcom's fault considering how good Spider-Man PS4 looks
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>>382704519
I grew up watching this cartoon. Now I have a fetish for gigantic asses. I wonder how that happened.
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>>382723987
Meant to say compared to Zero. He can get all the fame and exposure.
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>>382724581
Sony has a lot of money to toss at Spiderman. MvCI somehow looks worse than MvC3. And that's with the option to just recycle everything... why the fuck does Cap look so bad when they could just recycle him?
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>>382724179
comic book readers have share alot of the blame. even if the story is shit they keep eating it because of the characters. while good books like nova and ultimates2 get the shaft
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Who's the Ike Perlmutter of video games?
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>>382726164
Randy Pitchford?
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>>382726164
Todd Howard?
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>>382726164
Bobby Kotick
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>>382687781
>Cap's new level 3 for no reason
>X's level 3 has him with the default model face looking dead ahead soullessly
>Thor's and Spencer's level 3s have zero impact
>That damage on Captain Marvel's level 1
Good lord, it's worse than what I was expecting
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>>382727202
Fucking this all day everyday.
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>>382727227
>Cap's new level 3 for no reason
>Taking away final justice. The move that's been a part him since his debut
>Not even leaving it in as a hidden move
Just why.
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>>382727227
I was delighted to finally see X in a fighting game using his special weapons, but it feels kinda lacking when compared to Zero's overall moveset. Somehow, some way I expected better, but he still looks fun to play, though.

I agree about the supers, they're kinda lame, though I liked that they actually incorporated the double shot in some form, that was my favorite buster upgrade. The First Armor just looks bad, though. It's probably the worst armor design, and underlines one of the weaknesses of the way armors were implemented. I kinda liked how Mega Man 6 or 7 did it better.
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>>382727202
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>>382729660
>all avengers except wolvie

Kind of a weird setup. What's the context?
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>>382729863
Wolverine is an avenger now.
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>>382730001
Kay. Would've been nice to see Huge Ackman in an Avengers flick.
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>>382730141
He stated that the fact that couldn't happen was one of the reasons he quit the fox movies.
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>>382730224
He did say he regretted never getting to put on the "yellow spandex" they made fun of in the first X-Men.
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>>382730530
Is that DLC black panther skin?
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>>382679945
i have that same problem but with blazblue.
i like GG lore better cus its more invested in own brand of silliness, as opposed to blazblue which tries so goddamn hard to be 2000-2010's generic high school anime club tier animu
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>>382727202
Is he really Perlmutter levels of bad or is he just close?
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>>382673998
>jerking off the movies
>NO FUCKING STARLORD

Just let me play with fucking Peter, you won't let me have Rightclops, give me something you motherfuckers.
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