How do protagonists in stealth games manage to stay in the same

they're not real you dumbass

>>382655294
>tfw you know this game so well, that you know thats CIA room where the listen to Nikoladze's tape

>>382655294
Because they have thicc strong juicy thighs, you faggot.

>>382655520
...still believes...

>>382655370
lol this wtf is this thread?

>>382655370
rekt

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>>382655294
Thick thighs save lives.

Wtf I hate 4chan now

How does your mom manage to stay on her knees for so long, OP? Practice and dedication.

>>382655294
its hell on your knees not your thighs

>>382655294
A: They don't weigh 400 pounds.
B: They exercise.
C: All of the above.

>>382655708
She needs a breast reduction pronto

I work as a film photographer and I'm often forced to hold a position for extended periods for getting good shots. You need to be fit, I started to get the shakes after 20 minutes starting out, now I'm able to hold still with my legs bent and arms raised for 60 minutes.

Sam has quads of steel is how

I want to get back into Splinter Cell. I've still only played the first one long ago, but I'll probably buy it and replay it. Which ones are worth buying? Which PC ports are good? And do they have decent controller support?

>>382655294
I doudt that one of the best soldiers in the world would give to the urge of not wanting to stay in same pose for long just because it uncomfortable that easily

>>382655871
get someone to play co-op if you can

>>382656018
Not him but does the co-op work in the steam version of chaos theory?

>>382655708
sauce?

>>382655294
Intense squat training among slav monks

Why do characters in stealth games always crouch-walk to move quietly?

Walking upright is a less awkward movement, you can control your steps better and make less noise.

But in video games peak silence is crawling prone with all your tacticool bullshit dragging on the floor.

>>382655871
All of them are worth playing.
My personal ranking is
CT > BL > SC1 > PT > DA > Conviction

Be aware that there are some major problems with the PC version of Pandora Tomorrow, I don't think it's on Steam.

>>382656450
to hide from enemies' line of sight?

Why do stealth characters crouch, it's not any more quiet than just walking slowly

>>382656930
To dive behind a chest high wall if need be.

>>382655294
Strong quads are extremelly helpful when having sex too.

>>382656108
LITERALLY ONE SECOND IN GOOGLE

>>382656930
So you can't see them in the dark.

>>382656682
You only go invisible by crouching in video games anon

While CT has a great soundtrack, I do think the first was better at making everything seem more tense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mN7Wp5k7nE&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Quj8OYl1g&index=7&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vUZJg5IkWA&index=8&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoI09IHrqGU&index=9&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wygc_ZQbn3o&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12&index=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrxkczR2tVM&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12&index=14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs3ab3LGOOY&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12&index=15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TmG7mfhh5E&index=20&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kGpwiFXK1U&index=21&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-lVs3YLd6c&index=25&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIAu4eOGBsc&index=26&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEh2G3kg9bs&index=27&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w6XJ-Oqmxo&index=28&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12

>>382655520
Kombayn nicoladze I believe it was. Just a few months since I replayed and finished it. Need to finish Pandora tomorrow. Just arrived in Israel.

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>>382657348

>>382655294
Why do RPG or action adventure protagonists never eat, sleep, piss and take shit? Seems like a hassle.

>>382657448
You don't to read, just listen

>>382656481
yeah I would rate this as well
as much as meme people around are making
I do think Blacklist is a genuine good SC game

>>382655708
wow

>>382655294
Well Snake manages to get back problems in MGS4 that start playing up if you crouch-walk for too long. Still has dem thighs & glutes tho

>>382657348
The soundtrack is really good indeed.

>>382655294
This crouch-walking is hell on my back, boss.

>>382657348
>&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12&index=6
>&index=7&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
>&index=8&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12
>&index=9&list=PL68Dj7IsBpoJnF2-8qIRrRqe4j0Lasz12

stop

You should see the stance Mike does in Alpha Protocol. The weirdest contortion of a body in a stealth game I've ever seen.

>>382656682
Yeah but if games treated noise vs visibility more logically it'd force the player to choose between the two depending on the situation, that'd make for more interesting gameplay than just crouching or going prone 99% of the time then only standing up to sprint around when there are no enemies within a mile radius.

>>382657927
that would require innovation in the stealth genre since Thief

>>382655785
>t. complete faggot oh my god someone fuck my asshole please
What did you mean by this?

>>382656450
It's a gameplay abstraction that started from Thief and early tactical shooters is what I would guess. Because those games started on PC and didn't have analog or mouse wheel controls (mouse wheel controls were still uncommon/unconventional in the late 90s), they could only make the player move at two base speeds: run and walk. But having only two movement speeds in a stealth gameplay system would be too shallow, and simply adding more walk slower/faster keybinds would be too confusing. Crouching allowed an easily communicable way of having more granularity in movement by acting as a "slower movement stance" toggle.

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>>382657792
What the fuck?

>>382656450
Because if you started treating Splinter Cell more realistically then Sam would have to clear every corner properly with his gun raised, and he would always have to cover anyone who could possibly see him with his gun.

And he would have to kill every time he had to neutralize an enemy, or bind and gag them because people wake up after they get choked out. And he would have to use a suppressed pistol because killing someone both quickly and quietly with a knife does not exist.

And he would have to contact people via email and offer them a million bucks and a new identity to just give him the info he needs, instead of breaking into extremely secure locations.

>>382658754

Wait, stabbing a unconscious person with a knife isn't a thing

>>382658854
Pools of blood all over the floor and the trail of blood to wherever you drag the body is not quiet

>>382656450
>Walking upright is a less awkward movement, you can control your steps better and make less noise.
Not true. The key to walking quietly is to put your front foot down while putting your weight onto your back foot, then gradually shift your center of gravity forward. This is much easier to do with bent knees and leaning forward.

>>382658612
is actually a pretty good example

>>382658754
I thought if you stabbed someone in the lung that would be fairly quiet since they can't really muster enough oxygen to scream?

I'm not really an expert on lungs or any of that shit though

>>382659003
Or you can wear your socks over your shoes

>>382656450
For third person games such as Splinter Cell, it allows the animation to communicate player character speed to the player more distinctly. If the wide range of movement speeds in SC is condensed to the upright stance then it will be difficult to differentiate them at a glance.

>>382659127
Thanks Master McDonnell Benedict Kazuhira "the nigger grave digger" Miller.

>>382659051
Maybe, but its very bloody if you're lethally stabbing someone. That's assuming that Sam manages to perfectly sneak behind them and aim perfectly and be perfectly quiet. If he slips a little bit then the guy can just grapple with him. There's no reason to use a knife if you have a pistol. And neither one are that quiet

>>382659051
In Blacklist, he rips at their vocal cords and holds a hand over their mouths, going all "sshhh, shhhh". I can imagine not being able to scream.

>>382655708
Anri was a goddess.

>>382659354
>There's no reason to use a knife if you have a pistol.
Any firearm is fucking loud, even a suppressed one.

>>382655708
Terrible. Imagine if she wrapped those around your neck, you wouldn't be able to free yourself. You'd be stuck between her thighs forever. Fuck that.

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>>382659520
Gee thanks man

>>382656450
Smaller profile is harder to spot

>>382659367
>I can imagine not being able to scream.
I could imagine somewhat of a loud gurgling or similar and lots of restraint and last reflexes like stomping with your feet, so if the target doesn't die in an instant, there will be noise

>>382659003
I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually realistic. Josh Sawyer is pretty autistic over tactical shit, that's also probably the reason why New Vegas had such a wide variety of guns.

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>>382659719
>Smaller profile is harder to spot
I know that feel
>mfw manlet
Come on, laugh at me

>>382659354
>very bloody
Well yeah but gunshots aren't exactly less bloody, you're still making a puncture wound in some critical area of their body

>>382655294
Also, why the thighs OP? The back will be hurt much more by this i'd imagine.

people in this thread are talking about are how would Sam efficiently kill someone without leaving blood.

You shouldn't kill anyone in splintercell. You shouldn't interact with anyone. you were never there. The correct answer is you don't kill. Any kills or takedowns are strictly non-canon unless required by the game.

>>382659909
Try to mimic it, the thighs will respond first.

>>382658334
You can control your movement speed in Thief, if you kinda tap your way forward you won't make noise

>>382660263
Depends on which game and mission desu.

>>382660263
b o r i n g

>>382660613
Man, slipping past people is far more tense

>>382660707
This

>>382660707
To each his own, I prefer to kill everyone one by one without anyone even noticing something's wrong.

>>382655294
in mgs3 and 4, the most stealthy form of movement does actually consume more stamina. kinda useless though because it was slower too.

>>382660263
>You shouldn't kill anyone in splintercell. You shouldn't interact with anyone.
Then why does the game never punish you for killing unnecessarily? Or reward you for avoiding contact altogether?

If you want to do a self-imposed challenge then that's fine, but don't act like your autism is the canonical way to play the game.

People say the exact same thing about Thief and it's not true there either. Blackjacking everyone in sight is a way safer and smarter way to play than avoiding.

>>382659051
>>382659354
>>382659367
there isnt really a quiet way to take someone out with a knife. people react quickly to getting stabbed and die a lot slower than they react. in the military youre taught to cut someones throat as fast as possible and its a pretty thorough job irl compared to the one slice sort of shit you seen in games and movies; you more or less half decapitate the poor fucker.

Firstly, safety is for chumps without balls.

Secondly to answer your question the game does punish you. am example is in chaos theory there's a rating after you beat the level. getting all 0 is called playing correctly, other than that you fucked up chum. Same as hitman silent assassin rating In the og games.

Splinter cell also punishes you by making sure that combat is brutally punishing so that if you get into a firefight you will die quickly if you fuck up.

>>382662241
For
>>382661589

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>>382655708
>tfw your dick almost pierces a hole through your desk while your crushing loneliness pierces a hole through your heart

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Speaking of stealth games, anyone played this?

>>382661154

snake also doesn't crouch walk in 3 but he just walks a lot slower.

>>382662241
>Hitman Silent Assassin rating
I don't know about Splinter Cell but getting Silent Assassin in Hitman does not equate to "never interacting with anyone ever". You can still sedate and knock people out, and even kill a person.

If you literally play through the entire game without doing anything to anyone you're neglecting half the game's mechanics. The worst are MGS fags who negelect the plethora of mechanics just to play the whole game tranquilize head-shotting people. I'd rather honestly just play however I feel like playing on a level-by-level basis. That is whether I feel like stealthing past everyone, or slitting everyone's throats or toying with a surrendered guard.

>>382655708
>When people ask me who my favorite actress is I give them her name, they never specified what kind of actress.
this guy

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>>382655294
This reminds me of the crouching thread from couple years back. I wish I had it archived.

>>382658754
A supressed pistol still makes a lot of noise.

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>>382658754
>And he would have to use a suppressed pistol because killing someone both quickly and quietly with a knife does not exist.

This is bullshit, even suppressed pistols are fucking loud in real life, at best you can use an internally suppressed Ruger Mark IV then have them scream when the bullet barely pierces their skull and doesn't damage the brain enough to kill them because it's a shitty .22 pistol, and even if it does kill them they're still going to fall over and likely drip some blood.

If you want to kill a random soldier quietly through violent means you'd be better off covering their mouth and cutting their neck, pull their clothes over the wound to try and limit blood getting everywhere.

Learn to stealth, faggot.

>>382662543
Can't you teleport around and shit? What's the point or fun of a stealth game where you're some kind of warping shadow monster? I always thought the fun came from the tension and fear of being found, from vulnerability.

>>382662961
The one where someone thought that walking on all fours would be more quiet?

>>382663319
It would though

>>382655520
M8, if you don't have the entire exchange in your head right now, you don't know shit.

>A nation that still believes there is such a thing as a world superpower
>Take it back to believes
>What that chain sound?
>There's like a moaning in the background

Sets up the slaughterhouse pretty well desu.

>>382656450
Well, CS lets you walk silently standing up. So does mgs

>>382655785
gayest thing I've ever read desu

>>382663478
>So does mgs

It's been a few year since I played them but I'm pretty sure walking slowly was louder than crouch-walking slowly

>>382662853
The difference being is that you're given more ways to nonethally take down targets in splinter cell and they're not abundant. they're for strategic use. Your main pistol has a mechanic that has a blackout but if I kill every one all of a sudden that mechanic gets more and more ignored as the level progresses same as the use of light and sound. But if I don't I'm still using other mechanics the whole way through. the game is really designed for multiple play styles and it does it well. I'm just saying for all the styles that exist, non lethal is the correct execution of a cannonicl splinter cell mission.

why can't you just let those guys go back to their families tonight, anon

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>>382655708
>Anri will never kill you
Feels bad

>>382663636
Liking oversized breasts is degenerate, it means you subconsciously want to fuck your mom.

Flat chests are pure feminine beauty.

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>Stealth games attempting to realism

>>382663932
What if your mom is flat?

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I've played all of the Splinter Cell games except for the first two. Have they aged well?

>>382664040
I don't get it, you just posted a drawing of three guys and a wall

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He can do shit like that for however long he wants to, squatting is no problem.

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>>382655708
is anri a sneaky snek

>>382655520
mah nigga

>>382664145
Both of them have aged fairly well and are quite playable. I'd consider 1 to have some of the best moments of the franchise. Pandora Tomorrow feels a bit weird, especially because all the voice actors except Sam are different for some reason.

>>382663932
I consciously want to fuck my mom, she's hot.

>>382663932
I already had a dream where I was fucking my mom's ass in the middle of a supermarket so I didn't need you to tell me that.

>>382664142
Then fuck your mom, clearly she is pure, unlike cowtit whores.

>>382659856
It is true. If you're standing straight up, you lose an immense amount of control over your foot falls. It requires more muscles to make each step, but that's exactly what you want, to be able to use every muscle to balance your weight carefully.

When you're walking upright you're essentially tipping over and catching yourself, it's more natural feeling, but you can't really control the weight of your foot falls very well. To properly sneak you basically need to have control over your front foot's weight from zero to full weight.

If you're standing straight up, once you take a step and tip your weight forward, (unless you're literally shuffling inches at a time) it's impossible to pick that foot up again without letting the rest of your weight on it.

Just try walking quietly as possible, your body will automatically start to hunch over so that you can move lift and place your leg rather than swing it. Crouch sneaking is just taking that instinctual knowledge to a higher level by training the muscles and technique to go lower while still being stable. Average dude can't really walk crouched all the way down, it's murder on the thighs, it takes specific training of fairly underused muscle groups to be able to do it.

>>382655520
>>382663474
>tfw I remember every part of this level


It was a pain in the ass back in the day, but oh so cool.

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>>382664524
>>382664709
>tfw have a fetish for big breasted, loving, motherly girls but your actual mom is an ugly landwhale with anger issues so you have to jack off to 2d
>ywn get milkies from mommy during long sessions of naked cuddling

>>382655708
>she will never choke you out of you pathetic life between her thighs

Lads, why must we suffer like this?

>>382666675
So we can teach the young not to be like us.

>>382664709
What aisle was it in?

>>382667327
The shelves were completely empty so I have no idea
Yes, I remember because I had that dream pretty recently

Was Splinter Cell the first game with over the shoulder third-person aiming? It came out before Kill.Switch and Resident Evil 4

>>382656450
So you can run while standing.

>>382664709
>dream

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What did he mean by this?

LURKING ALL THE TIME
LURKING ALL THE TIME
LURKING ALL THE TIME

>>382667763
I'm a virgin loser so if I had fucked a single living thing in my life I think I'd remember

Hey remember when 56 years old Sam Fisher was voiced by 34 years old actor?

>>382667464
Link and his slingshot.

>>382667946
is that the mp3 from chaos theory?

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>>382655708

>>382664040
I remember in MGS 4 being able to press up against a wall, crouch (so Snake is sticking out his entire body width from it) and still blend in with the Octocamo suit. It was hilarious.

>>382667872
I'd like to feel Sam's thighs, no homo.

>>382668161
So? Only autists care.

>>382668161
Remember when a 56 year old was able to do Olympics tier physical feats?

>>382662543
It's pretty fun with a friend, and killing everyone mindlessly is really hard, since your character can only take down one guy at a time. Storywise, It's nothing groundbreaking, pretty average. The powers and level design are pretty good imo.
But again, It's pretty boring alone, so bring a friend along. Watch some
Youtube videos to have an idea about the gameplay. I dont personally like stealth games but enjoyed this one, maybe because i was playing with someone else. It's worth its price imo, i got 10-15hours on it and did all achievements so bear in mind; It's pretty short

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>>382655708

DRUNK AND DISORDERLY!
ASSAULTING A POLICE OFFICER!
SLANDERING THE BADGE!

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>>382655708
Her face looks creepy like an alien trying to disguise itself as a human. I still would though.

Are the PS3 HD versions good enough to play over the PC versions? I know someone fixed PT's shadows but I picked them up cheap

>>382668002
But you did remember, didn't you?

>>382668161
>Agent 47 is now 55 years old
Will stealth die when the protagonists get too old to climb shit and crouch without breaking their osteoporosis laden knees?

>>382655520
this mission reminds me of mission impossible 1

>>382672553
I remember that it was a dream, yes
I'm not sure what you're getting at

>>382671359
I wonder if he has ever fucked this up.

>>382663208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izU7I1xB57s
Silent firearms exist, and Sam has access to all sorts of cutting edge gadgetry

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>try to stay in one place too long
>mfw

>>382663314
You get access to shit like teleportation and light health regen in the shadows. The issue is you get fucked up in the light really easily and your opponents can fuck your shit up if you get caught. Actually pretty fun.

>>382656450
I think GTA V had it right when it came to stealth, your character hunches a little and just walks more carefully

>>382676530
i can't believe they took out crouching for that

>>382676810
Especially considering there are very few occasions where you have to use it.

>>382671359
Just punch him in the balls if you spot him, mission failed.

>>382675214
>Weak ass ping sound
"It's still very effective"
Bullshit. I'm calling bullshit. I bet that round wouldn't make it more than an inch or two into muscle and gg no re if you hit bone. Plus it won't fucking cycle and requires a rifle while Sam uses a pistol.

I don't think it counts as being "quiet" if your assassination goes like
>*pop*
>"OW SON OF A BITCH WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?"

At that point you might as well just chuck a fucking rock at his head and hope for a concussion.

>>382675214
>22LR
Good luck if the guy is wearing a helmet, as enemies in Splinter Cell often do.

>>382655708
too bad all her movies are shit (just like all japanese porn where the cover art is better than the movie)

>>382655871
1-3, ignore everything else, it's just bad fan fiction

>>382667872
is this some kind of super advanced dabbing?

I can hear it

You want to die tonight? That's free. You want to sleep tonight? It'll cost you one hundred Lari.

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>>382679794
>shitting on Blacklist

>>382655294
I always wondered that. My entire life I've been unable to squat for more than a minute or two. It just starts to hurt right away. I've even seen overweight guys do it for longer.

I'd make a bad Slav.

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>>382680939
why wouldn't i? it's like a chinese knockoff trying to convince you that it's the real deal

>>382657386
Took a while for them to give the green light to that part that takes place in Israel?

>>382681451
It's got a bit of Ubishit smeared across but it's a good game at its core, so that picture is correct.

>>382679794
Not even Double Agent on the Xbox?

>>382680939
>final mission ends an gigantic explosion, followed by a forced combat sequence with an assault rifle
>""""stealth game""""

blacklist is shit

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>>382655708
Why did you have to remind me she retired.

>>382655370
I'm wondering - did stealth missions ever happen IRL? I mean some guy sneaking on hostile territory to steal documents or something? Seems like a really unrealistic scenario, simple undercover is more viable.

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>>382655785
your shit needs slapping

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>>382657348
>not posting crystal method


THAT'S THE NAAAAME OF THE GAME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTgP8tqWpQ4

>>382655785
i think you are confusing her with hitomi.

hitomi could take some of the fat from her tits and put it in her ass

>>382682554
sure, you can play it if you're curious, it's way better than DA on Xbox360/PC, i just hate it 'cause it ruined a working formula and a bunch of characters

>>382682646
Oh it had some retarded design decisions alright, but 95% of the game is stealth or can be played as a stealth game.

>>382682646
That final co-op mission is absolutely the biggest pain in the ass I've ever seen due to the ending combat section.

how do you get into the syrian terrorists' warehouse in pandora tomorrow undetected?

>>382684793
>>382686291
My biggest problem with Blacklist is the Ubisoft filter over the game
>forced combat sequence
>context menu for literally every action
> linear level designs
>fucking markers and icons all over the screen
>lack of side routes and secondary objectives
>no interrogations of guards
>getting caught means nothing, just shoo your way to the exit.

I share a flat with a few people. I refuse to sit in the toilet, so I shit squatting, like an Indian.

You get used to it.

>>382682694

Yes but they don't send one guy they send in a whole group of commandos.

>>382657348
>that nostalgia from presidential palace one

>>382675978

>everyubisoftgame.jpg

Personally, my favorite Ubisoft game is the one where you have to climb up high to unlock more of the map and hold the right trigger to auto-win combat encounters, and there are lots of cool cultural marxist agendas shoehorned into the plot.

>>382689027
>he doens't press E or F to not die and do the "iw in" move

Console shitter lel

>>382655294
Just remembered i had this on Uplay from some bundle. Downloading now. Haven't played since my PS2 days. Any fixes i should be aware of?

>>382688393
>no interrogations of guards
This bothered me a lot. Why skip on an opportunity to give nu-Sam some personality? It could be implemented pretty easily, make an enemy give up the location of others, location of pick-ups, etc.

>>382655785
Agreed. Never understood the love of fat ugly tits. Nice and perky > sligtly chubby > fat surgery tits

>>382655294

this is a punishment in our army (I'm not American)

needless to say we spent a lot of time being punished

>>382672058

>not wanting to procreate with a superior being

pleb

>>382689571
>my mobo doesn't have bluetooth functionality

LOL good one grandpa!

>>382690546
>Why skip on an opportunity to give nu-Sam some personality?

because they'd have to actually put any effort into the writing, impossible for the hacks in charge of it

>>382655708
did she die ?

>>382692035

I seriously don't understand how no one on the writing staff thought to make Sam the new handler and let some new guy be the field agent instead of making Fisher some soft of Benjamin Button. Hell someone here even proposed that the new guy was pretending to be Sam to draw the real Fisher out, which means /v/ has a better handle on the characters than the staff does.

>>382692857
I think it's the same reasoning as why Squeenix went with nu-Lara in the new Tomb Raider games instead of a new character. Fisher is kind of a larger than life protagonist.

>>382681451
Why were the bantz in CT so fucking good?

>>382692857
People suggested that as soon as the e3 reveal trailer was shown.
They're response on the forums was literally "come on guys."

>>382693384
Writers weren't hacks and Sam wasn't a generic action star. Blacklist Sam is so bland I can't even remember a single line he said. Bland character to go with the bland, dumbed down game Blacklist turned out to be.

>>382692857
They did, it's just that this is the easiest and less costly option. I'd rather have nu-Sam than some stronk womyn Ubi would create.

>>382692857
Everyone complained baout. Same should have taken the place of Lambert, with Briggs being the new field agent. Briggs works well a sa foil to Sam anyway, as they write him as much more calculating and methodical than Sam "get the shit done" attitude.

Also doesn't help that he plot is a generic race against time rush fest, which feels weird as fuck in the stealth genre.

>>382692857
>Hell someone here even proposed that the new guy was pretending to be Sam to draw the real Fisher out, which means /v/ has a better handle on the characters than the staff does.
Are you kidding me? That's fucking fanfiction tier.

>>382682694

More common for assassinations, but even then it's usually a team of special forces.

I remember reading that many authors and spies during the Cold War hated much of the spy genre because guys like Fleming who operated during ww2 didn't understand that modern spy work was just undercover intelligence.

>>382694093
I'm thinking Ironside didn't want to reprise the role at all, even in a handler position.

>>382692857
>>382693384
because they had proper writers and directors, it all changed after CT though: SC 1 was co-written by John Thomas Petty and Clint Hocking, PT by John Thomas Petty and CT by Clint Hocking; it all changed with Double Agent, when they hired Richard Dansky, coincidence or not also when the story started to go down the crapper
Since then Dansky also wrote Conviction and Blacklist, games which lack the subtlety and dark humor that 1-3 had and feel like some shitty braindead Hollywood summer flick, not like slow burning thrillers with the occasional action moment

>>382672685
47 will be able to do stuff by pretending to be a harmless old man.

>>382682694
It happens but that's probably a last resort.

>>382687664
Savescumming and getting the perfect synchronization.

>>382694334
Damn shame but I don't blame him. Shit must get old after awhile.

Still doesn't excuse the plot of 50 year old Sam running around as a field agent AND being the leader of Fourth Eicholon

>>382695278
Your average gamer doesn't give a shit about Sam's age. He certainly doesn't appear to be an old man.

>>382655294
squats

>>382655370
fpbp

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>>382694656
clint hocking is now rotting at valve while some faggot is running the series into the ground with his garbage scripts (also with help from the rest of the """talent""" and ubishit) god fucking damn it

>>382695632
Fuck his age. Why would the field Agent be the leader of the intelligence organization at the same time? Dumb as hell.

Wait, so apparently the old Splinter Cell had amazing storytelling? Nostalgia googles, much?

>>382655294
>tfw used to do the gears of war roadie run
>it's actually not as uncomfortable as you'd think and is fun

>>382682694
yeah dude you just never hear about them

>>382655520
fucking nice, dude

>>382696954
That is extremely autistic, bet you looked like a retard doing that

>>382696821
not amazing, but at least decent and grounded i.e. not the michael bay tier shitfests after double agent

>>382655785
you need a life reduction

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>>382663932

Liking flat chest means that you are gay, or something worse...

>>382658754
>killing someone both quickly and quietly with a knife does not exist
That's wrong, or at the very least its gonna be quieter than a suppressed pistol, especially indoors

>>382695278

Ironside was apparently satisfied with where Sam's character finished in Conviction. That and they wanted a younger guy to do the mo-cap and acting at the same time.

>>382694172

>Are you kidding me? That's fucking fanfiction tier.

It's like the indoctrination theory for Mass Effect, what we actually got was so dumb we'd take practically anything else, even if by normal standards it would also be stupid. I generally prefer if Fisher stayed retired, he basically destroyed Third Echelon in Conviction so he doesn't 'really have an incentive to go back. Maybe if he formed his own independent unit or something like Douglas Shetland did, but then he'd still more likely be the handler at his age.

>>382696696
Because it's not an intelligence agency like NSA or CIA, it's basically Seal Team Six only with the ability to pick its own missions without the bureaucracy bullshit. The President scrambled it together to have an agency that only maintains direct contact with her. Fisher was alive and trustworthy, so she used the opportunity to offer him the keys.

>>382655785
>Someone posts a well endowed woman
>Someone complains her breasts are too big
EVERYTIME

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>>382697831
Splinter Cell is sick Ironside, she’s dying. Developers, the shareholders, the whispered backroom deals, it's all life support for a sick old lady who was dead a long time ago.

>>382655294
Didn't the weight you carry in MGS4 affect your stance or something?

Why don't people get that Blackedlist is a soft reboot?

>>382698424
I don't remember that but if you crouched too long Snake's back would hurt and he'd lose psyche from remembering he's an old fart

>>382698612
Right I remember now

I just recalled the compress item that I never used

>>382682857
Get this censured shit away from here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4fgGZEggxE

I won a fight with a fellow lanklet because I used that grab that Sam does in CT where he kicks their leg and grabs their arm and throat. That's the only fight I got in. Thanks for reading my blog.

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>>382700585
This one?

>>382700585
I won a fight against a fellow lanklet because he wrapped his arm around my shoulder and tried to pull me to the ground but failed hard, so I just kept punching him in the face.