>Japanese video games have perfect gamepla- https://www.

-y

>>382653303
It's an early trailer and the game is still in development, what the hell did you expect?

>>382653303
I'm really disappointed with the physics on his shoulder cape thing.

>>382653303
This is insultingly bad

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>>382653506
name a game in development that was introduced with a trailer/gameplay that actually played better in release

im waiting

>>382653506

That they have changed a thing since the stream of complaints since June? This is exactly the same trailer they showed at E3.

>>382653303
>game is not even out yet
>The anti weeb-crusaders redditors from r/filthy-frank are shitting on it on every occasion
No upvote for you today

>>382653626
Metal Gear Rising.

>>382653539
>expecting anything from PhysX 3.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeTVbk1xfDY

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>>382653303
>That cape

Arkham Asylum has better cape physics

>>382653506

Nier Automata looked way fucking better on its premiere trailer, and back then the game wasnt even barely started. This shit on the other hand is supposedly 40% finished.

>>382653626
DOOM.
Tons of people found the first gameplay trailer shown at E3 slow and underwelming, but when it was released it was actually way faster.

The environments look so uninteresting.

>it's literally a dark souls reskin
wew lad

>>382653760
40% is still a low percentage of completion and permits a shitton of changes to be made.

Looks fantastic, glad to see someone carrying the souls torch.

>>382653937

t. shill

>>382653303

What's with the repetitive movesets? jesus fuck it looks so goddamn boring.

>>382653960
>No one can ever make a good comment on MY 4chan, moot told me so.

>>382653785
Trailers were played by a controller. Play any fps game with a controller and then switch to mouse and keyboard...

>>382653626
all of them? You'd know that if you weren't a casual fifa fag and actually participated in closed betas in your life.

>>382654016
it has more combat than The Surge, Lords of the Fallen, For Honor and Tomb Raider combined

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>>382653303
6O already has her own game??

>>382654048
You asked for an example of gameplay/triler that played better at release and in the end you could play it better with a mouse on release day, so it counts.

>>382654076
But anon all of those games have bad combat already and one of those games isnt even trying to aim for combat. It also runs at better framerate than some psx games yes s-so...

>>382654076

>Surge

Fuck off. Even the Surge's combat was way more meatier and weightier than this hot garbage.

>>382654139
But the speed of the game was literally untouched. So you think we're gonna see people spasming around this game with mouse, higher fov and fps? None of that will be included in a Playstation(TM) exclusive game.

>>382654209
Yeah, that's why it sold like hot cakes, amirite?

>>382654076

>For Honor

t. Oroshit that got got pwned by Lawbringers

>>382654305

>The quality of the game is dependent on sales

Fuck off

>>382654209
>Surge's combat was way more meatier

what the fuck did he mean by this?

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>>382654128
oh, anon...

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>>382654305
>I do not understand how marketing works

>>382654378

Just watch any gameplay video of the Surge. At least there you could actually feel the weight of the impact of hits. Here it just looks so fucking amateurish with shitty snapping animations.

>>382653303

Looks like Japs all spent their creative juices last year because this looks boring as fuck

>>382653852
this, I was expecting more. Though to be fair, I guess they did heavily imply it would just be dark souls

>>382653303
This game just continues to look completely unimpressive. What are they even trying to accomplish with this game?

https://twitter.com/CODE_VEIN/status/881349275384336384

Even the fucking Japs aren't impressed by the lack of movesets and no combat music.

>>382653506
stfu you bitch ass faggot

>>382653303
>weeb souls

>>382653506
Well, you can ask as to what's the point of releasing this early gameplay footage that looks just unimpressive to the majority. Would've been better off if they didn't show it then.

>>382653685
>/r/filthy-frank
I always bandwaggon on reddit name calling but sometimes you just have wonder: how do people like you know about those shitholes?

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>>382655713
How is summer going for you? Nice phoneposting by the way.

>>382653303
Looks like Demon's Souls, but better.

>>382655989

How would even know that nigga? Fuck uf you queer

>>382656171

kys

>>382653303
It's just a really shitty dark souls for weebs
What did people expect

>>382656526
>dark souls for weebs

but dark souls was already for weebs

>>382656768
This is even MORE for weebs
Did you see the vampire edgelord girl

>>382657021
>Weeb is someone who has even the slightest interest in anything made outside of the USA
Weeb as a word has lost its meaning, it used to be a term to describe someone who pretend to be japanese and now everyone who watches an episode of dragonball once a week or has an anime avatar gets called one.

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>>382657223
>he thinks that people with anime avatars shouldn't get called weeaboo

>>382657223

t. weeb

>>382657223

Go back to watching naruto, weeb. No sane person with any self respect will play this weeb soulshit carbon copy

>>382657362
But weeaboo is not someone who just likes watching japanese animation products, it's someone who elevates japanese culture over his own one and wants to be part of it.
>>382657364
T. Filthy frank fanboy who didn't get the message of his video

>>382657545
How does having interest in this game implies i watch that overrated shounen series with the most cringey fanbase in the world after MLP?

>expecting anything less from a dev whose major achievement is a MH ripoff

>>382657747

By having interest alone in this trash in an indication of your own shit taste in anime. If it borrowed a better art style like Blame then maybe I'd tolerate it, but this right here is typical SAO trash with a splash of edgy shit

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>>382657629
>people who set some shitty anime demon girl as their fucking avatar to symbolize them aren't elevating japanese culture over their own and want to be a part of it

>>382657907
Yeah, it's just like you said.

>>382657852
Some years ago
>dude like we gotta make le muney lol what do people like
>monster hunter is pretty popular
>yo like let's make monster hunter with the blandest monster designs and even more anime grills in there
Today
>dude like we gotta make le muney lol what do people like
>dark souls is pretty popular
>yo like let's make dark souls with the blandest world design and shoehorn edgy anime girls and beta boys

>>382653303
literally anime dark souls and you fags are always jerking that game off

>>382659245
Faggots will praise and defend literally any game as long as it's anime

>>382659762

Well too bad this one is so shit no one with half a brain would think it's good

>>382653626
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time.

The first showcase was garbage, it got much better thanks to feedback.

>>382659927
I've seen people defending it

>>382659245
>and you fags are always jerking that game off
It's literally always 1 or 2 people and in the replies there are at least 50 others who spit on it at sight, every time. Stop making up facts.

>>382660350
>literally only 1 or 2 people like Dark Souls
LOL
O
L

>>382653506

And when it releases:
>I-it was just released guys... give it a patch or two, they'll fix everything!

>>382661207

It's really pathetic how weebs go just to defend their shitty ass Jap game

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>>382661431
>Implying it happens only with jap games
Ok, at this point it's pretty fucking obvious where do you come from if you blatanlty ignore failures like No Man's Sky just to shit over anything made in asia for your personal vendetta.

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>that movement

oh fuck....this is gona be just like DS2, isn't it.

VEIN?

>>382653303
Sweet 30 FPS cap!

>>382653303
It doesn't look good, the animations are so lifeless.

I just want to see whats the new thing they're going with this game.
Nioh had its stances and stamina system, Surge had his level up system.

I guess its the Partner System but unless they do something really cool so far its not that interesting

>>382654056
Aliens Colonial Marine.

>all of them

Fuck off.

>>382662119

No one was defending NMS here fuck boy. Every shitty game here on /v/ has been rightfully laughed at. This is ni exception.

>>382654209
If by "meatier and weightier" you mean slower then yes, and to a fault.
So slow in fact that most of the game you'll only be relying on your dash attack. Even if you parry enemies, they can still attack you before you can even land your riposte.
The Surge's combat is shit. And this is without talking about the awful rubberband effect that pulls you towards enemies and vice versa.
I'm not interested in Code Vein but at least the combat looks much better than the Surge.

>>382662915

It looks like 20 even. God it looks so horrible.

>>382662292

They literally copied the zoning/strafing animation from DAS2.

>>382653751
capes are like the staple of almost every dc/marvel hero, though. of course they'd put more detail into it

not defending code vein, i like to think it can still improve before release

>>382657907
or maybe they think the demon girl is cute, they don't have to pretend to be japanese to do that

>>382665674
They're still faggots for thinking that

>>382665835
you act like normies don't fap to hentai on occasion

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>>382653626
Bloodborne
Shame they removed this glorous weapon though

>>382653303
>Generic anime male protag
If you don't have a balls to put bald manly man in the post apocalyptic game, at least put cute girl
No one wants to play as emo faggot

>>382666690

bb already looked good though. This one doesnt

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>>382666690
>removed the saw cleaver

>>382666918
>E3 gameplay trailer
>looked good
Is it a joke?

>>382653303
>that stiff upper body and shuffling feet when locked on

Looks terrible. At least in souls games your character moves organically when locked on. This fucker keeps his torso perfectly stiff like he has a back issue and can't turn his neck.

>>382667001

Yes it fucking did. Even the first glimpses we saw of the character shooting the gun was hype as fuck. No other game generated that amount of hype as Project Beast did, aside from maybe MGSV.

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>>382653303
WHERE IS THE CHARACTER CREATION

>>382666907
You can customize your character, gender included.

>>382667494
Holy shit they really ripped off mh

>>382653303
why do these games insist on emulating Demon/Dark Soul's roll rather than Blood Bourne's superior dash?

>>382653303

This most horrible game action game Ive ever seen holy shit. Why did they mix realistic graphics and that silly anime style? It looka so fucking bad. At least go full 2d artstyle like Aksys or go realistic like Souls. This is just awful

>>382653303
>Same enemy as the previous gameplay trailer
>Same unsatisfying gameplay
God eater devs can't nail the combat

Code Vein? More like Code Lame

>>382653303

I bet weapons in the the class dont have different reaches despite looking smaller/taller or even better. I bet all weapons in the same class are looking the exact same size.

>>382667976
The weapons already feel barely any stronger than the other. The player takes just as much hits to kill the monsters with a short sword as the big ass glaive. Its generic and uninspired as fuck.

>>382667915

GE devs should just kill themselves. They cant mimic MH, and now theyre showing their incompetence by completely failing to understand what makes Souls games good. Its fucking embarassing.

>>382668141

As expected from a below average monster hunter cloning team.

>>382653303
>instead of making GE3 they're making DS clone
Fucking hell Shift.

>>382663563
Well, they're using Unreal Engine of course it's going to be spikefest.

>>382669259
Explain

>>382669982
>he doesn't know

>>382670031
>he doesn't explain

>>382663446
It was, were you not here before it's release?

>>382670116
>he need explanation

>>382669259

Unreal engine 4 is fucking awful. See Nier Automata and its godawful fps

>>382670390
>Unreal engine 4
>Nier Automata
what

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>>382653303
Looks pretty good desu.

>>382670390
Nothing to do with UE4. Its the japs and their 0 effort towards optimization. Once they hit 20+ fps they couldnt care less. Then if a game gets PC port its even worse. I mean just think how Dark souls 1 and 2 were 30 fps with tons of issues and yet people were like ayy japs are so cool lol lul fuck western games btw anime is best too.

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>>382670390
Nier Automata uses some shitty inhouse engine. Trash on all levels.

Tekken 7 on the other hand is using Unreal4. And it looks and plays amazing.

I'm so tired of dodge rolling in action games. It's lazy and doesn't even make sense to see to see people in full plate do pirouettes.

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>post yfw this outsells MHW

>>382670674

The only good lookin stuff are the glaive weilding enemy animations and even then they are kinda floaty since sped up. They need way more recovery frames for it to look realistic as they intention instead the weapons look weightless. Im too tired to shit on the rest of the game

>>382670557

They made a big deal of it using ue4 last year

>>382671001
>expecting realism in fantasy game where you slay ayyliens and giant twintail women

>>382671001
>doesn't even make sense to see to see people in full plate do pirouettes.

t. retard

Plate armor is more articulate than your own physical limbs, and the weight is distributed evenly so you can wrestle and do cartwheels and everything.

The only time armor was bulky and hindering like the memes was the fucking bronze age, when men with great big plates of un-articulated bronze armor were expected to just stand still in a chariot rather than get rough and tumble on foot.
And spoilers: those men were slaughtered to a man by naked barbarians who simply killed the horse and stabbed the man when he was immobilized.

>>382671828
well post a source then

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>>382670734
>ayy japs are so cool lol lul fuck western games btw anime is best too.
But that's true.

We meme about Japs and optimization but the ugly truth is that Japanese games on average are more optimized than western games. Look at all those fighting games. And action games that prioritize 60FPS. Westacucks were the ones who coined "cinematic experience" and who started parroting the "human eye can't see past 30FPS" nonsense.

The ONLY time western games run better than Japanese ones is when you have some weird-ass Slavic/yuropoor developers making PC focused/exclusive games. Or when they're made by Monolith.

>>382671828
But that's wrong. You're mixing something up. You need to see Unreal logo when you start the game and that doesn't occur in Nier.

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>>382672051
"Coughs"

This game runs like shit on all systems, a pathetic musou

>>382653303
should've just been a crazy hack n slash with the vampire blood mechanic being a zandatsu move desu

>>382672051
>And action games that prioritize 60FPS

Which are few and far between, very much the exception and not the rule.

Japanese devs are perfectly happy to tie game mechanics directly to framerate (which has been considered poor practice in the West for decades), so even if they do get a PC port they are impossible to run at 60.

>>382671967
no one in the history of mankind ever rolled to dodge a strike

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>>382672352
Okay?

>>382672406
>Which are few and far between, very much the exception and not the rule.
No, not really. Not on per capita. Most action and fighting games are from Japan. And pretty much all run smoothly. Fighting games are strictly locked to smooth FPS because you need it for inputs.

>Japanese devs are perfectly happy to tie game mechanics directly to framerate
Happens rarely and usually with handheld games. Like Toukiden.

EA did the same thing but with a racing game. Much more severe. Bethesda did the same to Skyrim. It gets fucked if it goes above 60.

Again, in general, you will manage to nitpick some games with drops or poor optimization but on average they'll still be better than western shit. Both in terms of mechanics and technology.

>>382672141

Never mind. That was Scalebound.

should have been a lot faster, this just like even shittier dark souls
pretty disappointed

>>382672683
A bold claim. Amazing if true.

>>382673086
you are right. I should have added "...and survived"

>>382672884
Don't worry, it'll be fixed in CODE VEIN: BURST.

>>382670674
>that ugly ass woman enemy

>>382672847

You mean like Final Fantasy 13? Or any of SE's shitty ports? Lets be honest here, when were talking about optimization it always about the pc ports, because no console can go above 60 fps anyway. The biggest offender of this shit is Koei, though granted their Toukiden 2 port was a miracle.

>>382673218
they should add the full anime mode from rage burst.

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>>382671008
>thinking it will happen

>>382673525
>the add god mode later in game complete with special song

>>382673362
>hough granted their Toukiden 2 port was a miracle.
was it? It was extremely heave on the cpu for some reason, i couldnt run it stably with my gtx970

>>382653303

It looks okay, although there is something just a bit off about the animations, effects and sound on some of those light attacks by the player character. Seems the start up and recovery animations might need some tweaking to get the feeling of weight behind the weapon just right. Still, that's all stuff that can be fixed down the line and the enemy and rolling animations are both satisfactory; it looks like there's a decent amount of telegraphing and suitable recovery for an enemy that large so that the strategy is avoid the attacks and counter while it recovers. The challenge will probably be in isolating each enemy so that you don't get swarmed with that type.

>>382653303

it looks exactly like dark souls

why give one game a pass and not the other?

>>382672352
Is that DQ Heroes?

>>382673937
Because dark souls isn't anime bait

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>>382673362
>You mean like Final Fantasy 13?
>an old ass console game that's also a turn based RPG with no need for hectic timing
Okay, so?

>Lets be honest here, when were talking about optimization it always about the pc ports
That's right. Japs only make console games that latter get ports. Which is why I said the only time the ONLY time a westacuck game is more optimized is when it's made by some weird PC devs who are still remnants of the bygone PC age. That rarely happens these days because even westerners are focusing on the consoles first and foremost.

But this is the thing right: The most catastrophic PC port in recent memory was from the westerners. Arkham Knight, MKX and No Man's Sky. All western games, all shit on the PC. And the console western games are 30FPS cinematic walking feels-a-thons.

Now, as you said, the worst Jap offenders are Koei but EVEN Koei games run better on the PC in some cases. For example Berserk runs at 60FPS on the PC while it's locked to 30FPS on the PS4.

I repeat, you will find bad apples but in GENERAL Japs are better than westacucks both in terms of optimizations and gameplay mechanics.

They should have made the character step/teleport dodge instead of muh rolling and have attacks have very little recovery time/dodge cancellable, and then turn up the enemy attack speed/range to crazy levels. It would have been something different instead of a simple dark souls reskin, kind of like what god eater was to monster hunter. It also looks weird having those anime characters not darting around everywhere with a lot of flashy effects.

>>382674365
Why didin't Vilehelm just fucking stab her

>>382673937
>it looks exactly like dark souls
It's worse than DS even, i wish they just put their manpower to GE3.

>>382672051
Why do you even bring out fightning games as an example when every current fightning game runs at 60 fps as its standard for them? Wanna talk about Tekken 7? A game that was released 2 years ago on japs coin machines yet now when it gets ported to consoles and pcs theres barely any content and in fact it has way less content and gamemodes than any of the previous games... Like they technically had 2 years time and what did they make?

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>>382674046
>a game where you are a DEAD ZOMBIE who has to fight SAD CORRUPTED HEROES of a BYGONE ERA and also DEMONS to SAVE AND/OR END THE WORLD while collecting CUTE WAIFUS
>not anime bait

>>382674517
nice shitposting keep it up

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>>382674517
>a game where you're a piece of shit nobody too shit to escape prison/burn alive who has to fight the equivalent of animals with rabies of a shitshow era to burn alive/become an edgelord while collecting bros
>anime bait

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>>382674449
Could you stab this?

>>382674502
>Why do you even bring out fightning games as an example when every current fightning game runs at 60 fps as its standard for them?
Why not? They're very mechanically deep and sound and they're mostly from Japan.

Reminder that MK9/X were fucking unplayable on the PC.

>Wanna talk about Tekken 7?
The best fighting game on the market in all aspects? Sure. I can talk about it all day.

>>382674985
No
but Vilehelm could

>>382674046
Is "anime bait" a thing or another pointless "X thing-bait" buzzword made up at the moment to shit the newest "X thing i don't like in games and nobody should"?

>>382674517

That sounds like a western fantasy idiot. Ever played D&D or any tabletop?

>>382674517
you weeb ass motherfucker I hate you

I don't understand how people here on /v/ can keep a straight face when they say that they like Dark Souls but as soon as they see an anime game they say that they hate Japanese videogames, it's like you are too idiotic to comprehend that japanese games don't have only one type of aesthetics, just like western ones.

>>382675419
D&D is much more founded in Greek myth and Conan The Barbarian/Fafhrd And The Grey Mouser type heroics, Dark Souls is 100% edgy anime

You might be confusing D&D with Pathfinder, which has its roots in D&D but has a community of 100% huge anime nerds playing edgy zombies and cute kitsune waifus

>>382653303
Tell me about this loli. Why does she wear that mask?

>>382675419
>clueless about videogames AND tabletops
Impressive

>>382675631
fuck off west cuck numale

>>382653303
>Fromsoftware won't make any more Dark Souls games what do we do
>We'll just steal the formula and make it edgy and cool! Weebs will love it!

>>382675914
come the day of the rope you will be the first to hang

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>>382675879
She's a small girl

>>382675904

>not having your dungeon master make elaborate quests

How boring your sessions might be.

>>382654285

Actually that isn't true. There's a comparison video out there that shows a lot of the Glory Kill animations were cut down from 3-5 seconds to sub one second to improve the speed of the game and not break up pacing. This alone was a massive improvement but other tweaks were made as well.

You guys can always go on reddit if you hate seeing anime being posted everywhere

>>382675798

Nobody plays Dark Souls thinking its anime though. In fact, when it came out people thought it was a WRPG. Some even still think it is.

>>382676043

>Defending a piece of shit game

There are weeb games that are nice like Persona. This one isnt.

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>>382675969
>vidya numale cucks will survive

>>382676043
This. I hate anime but love western games like Dark Souls, so Reddit is my go-to place for discussion.

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>>382676143
DS is anime as heck. The final boss is Guts even.

>>382676143
Dark Souls is Berserk

Berserk is anime

>>382676143
>Nobody plays Dark Souls thinking its anime though

The only people who don't think it's anime are idiots who think anime is exclusively child porn.
Everyone else knows it's in the Berserk side of the anime spectrum.

>>382676143
JRPG is a genre. The design in Dark Souls is very un-JRPG'ish. Just like you can eat Italian food without it being made in Italia.

>>382676278
>>382676319

Yes but most people who flocked to Dark Souls dont know that. These were people who left Skyrim because of the HOLY SHIT THIS GAME IS HARD memes back in 2011-12. Only after playing did they hear about the Berserk references and thus became another flood of secondaries memeing about Artorias.

>>382653303
Nice to see they addressed the lack of hitstop in the first trailer. Attacks look more impactful, now.

Looks pretty alright, famalam.

Also what's with all the ash ghouls?

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>westcucks already trembling in their pants over this

How have those western "souls clones" been working out for you?

How does it feel knowing the future of the souls games rests in the hands of anime?

>>382676474
Anime is art style and theres nothing anime in Dark Souls.

>>382676794
>JRPG is a genre
Please explain
Jrpg is japanese rpg
Do you really think that final fantasy 8/final fantasy 13/chrono trigger/dragon quest are in the same genre?
Because gameplay is nothing alike in all 4 games

>>382676794

Nobody thought it was back then no. Remember, back in 2011 your standard JRPG was something like Ar Tonelico 3 and Neptunia.

>>382676909

When BB2 happens and BTFOs this shitty anime knock off.

>>382676909
why don't you just kill yourself

>>382677094
>when a Japanese anime game happens and BTFO this anime knock off

What did he mean by this?

>>382676952
yes they are in the same genre

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>>382676909
Feels good senpai.

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>>382677094
>BB2 happens
Borne was worst selling souls game in japan, ws sold even worse than niche game like des
There won't be another borne game

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>>382677094
>when Demon Souls 2 happens
lol never ever

Shut up, enjoy your CODE:Vein™ and then shut up some more.

>>382677261

Japanese devs still compete with each other anon. From is the only dev who can make Souls games.

>>382676952
Why is the food analogy so difficult to understand?

Japenese can also make RPG that isnt JRPG.

>>382677605

Yeah? Like what? Nier is a jrpg if you mean that

>>382677605
What makes jrpg a jrpg?
Why soulsborne games aren't jrpg?

>>382677789
Soulsbourne is an action game where you manage a single player-insert character.
The differences between Souldborne and Dragon Quest should be painfully obvious to even the dimmest of bulbs.

>>382677605
>japanese RPG made in japan isn't japanese RPG
DUDE
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>382653303
Literally the Dark Souls of anime games

>>382677605
Yeah, just renounce their heritage and citizenship and move to america, but I'd be hard-pressed to find any development studio that did that.

>its another pointless discussion on arbitrary labels
imagine all the videogames you could be playing right now

>>382668346
Good bosses, good level design, and lots of variety in character building?

>>382678105

But I dont want to

>>382677979
Did you ever stop for a moment and try to think why there arent any JRTS or JFPS games?

>>382678178

Yeah. None of which are going to be in this game

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>>382677605
>westcucks are this delusional

>>382677969
>Soulsbourne is an action game where you manage a single player-insert character.
I hope you are aware that there many jrpg like this
Try again

>>382678260

Because there literally arent.

>>382654381
>those garbage human beings don't get a ban
Don't expect much of the mods but holy shit.

>>382653303
For the first ten seconds I thought it was Vindictus. The rest was filled with memories of that game because they're using the same audio samples.

Looks like shit, m8.

>>382678406
There are many games which are like this and which are developed in Japan, such as Soulsborne, but they are not JRPGs.

If right now a Japanese studio made an anime version of Skyrim, it would still be a WRPG.

>>382678663

Fuck off. Vindictus looks way better than this. It also has more player interaction, like being able to grab monsters

>>382678740
Arguing with a weeb is like trying to argue with a pigeon.

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>>382678835
I liked it too but Vindictus is an almost 8 year old redneck charlie source engine game. It didn't age well.

>>382678740
Not an argument
This game are considered jrpg, it's just soulsborne autists like you are buttdevastated and trying to change meaning of the word

>expect Code Vein in a Code Vein thread
>IS IT ANIME OR IS IT NOT
>SPEAKING OF WHICH, IS DAS WEEBSHIT TOO???
>FPS SCREETCHING FROM PKEKS
>EASTERN VS WESTERN DEVELOPERS, GOGOGO

Every fucking thread. Every fucking thread gets derailed with the some fucking bullshit.

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>>382679865
That's the fate of being associated with Souls games in any form or fashion.

>>382679381
>This game are considered jrpg
Literally no one considers Souls games to be JRPG.
They are Japanese, and they are RPG, but they are not JRPG.

Westerners who make Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy clones in RPGmaker are perfectly happy to acknowledge their games are JRPGs even though they're made in the west, why do you insist on being retarded?

>>382679983
Everyone who isn't retarded considers it a JRPG. JRPG literally just stands for japanese roleplaying game, which is exactly what Dark Souls is. A japanese roleplaying game.

>>382653303
Dev here, it's fucking bad compared to Dark Souls imo.
>Barely any staggering when enemy gets hit
>Attack animations feels way too light, when run animation feels way too heavy
>Unrealistic, even for anime style attack animations
>Sword is way too freaking long and he swings it like it's made from some kind of light plastic
>Spear attacks for some reason ends up with one handed swings
>Staggering animation is played first, even when enemy already died, then it runs death animation
>Trying the story-telling of Souls in darkish edgy anime styled game feels off
>Enviroment design is pretty much poor and i would say more boring than even Bloodborne

>>382680416
Why are you only reading one third of other people's posts?

>>382680416
>JRPG literally just stands for japanese roleplaying game
.. in the traidition of games like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, yes.
It's a specific genre, which Soulsborn is not a member of.

JRPG != any RPG made in Japan, just as WRPG != any RPG made by Bethesda.

You should instead be arguing that JRPG and WRPG are piss-poor names for genres and we need a better system entirely.

>>382680671
neck yourself you worthless cuck

>>382680780

This. Requirements for a JRPG.

1. Is it about a set main character with a ragtag group of quirky fellows set on an adventure?
2. Is it hyper stylized and in no way try to mimic realism?
3. Is it melodramatic as fuck with 15 year olds arguing about kindergarten tier philosophy?
4. (optional) Does it have turn based combat?

There.

>>382680780
>It's a specific genre
No it isn't. It's a classification given for roleplaying games made in japan. RPG is a genre, JRPG has never ever been a genre.

>>382681531

Yes it fucking was. Did you completely miss the era of PS2 Japanese games? That was the golden are of JRPGs right there.

>>382681689
All you're saying there is "the golden era of roleplaying games developed by Japan".

>>382680780
>>382681273
>D-Dark souls isn't japanese so I'm not a weeb :^)
Every single thread with these pathetic losers

>>382681797

Yeah because the West definitely made games like Mana Khemia and Ar Tonelico right?

Because fucking Morrowind can put on the same genre as Suikoden right? Subgenres exist anon. The west and Japan do different shit from each other

>>382681838

It's japanese but it's not a JRPG. Fuck off. It's a goddamn action game.

>>382681838
You forgot your smug anime girl.

>>382681991
Japan and the west having stylistic differences often times does not make JRPGs and WRPGs genres, that's the most stupid fucking notion you could present, and flimsy as hell at that.

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>>382682096
>>382681838
I got him covered

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Weebs reign supreme.

>>382682159

It's not just stylistic differences but they are MECHANICALLY DIFFERENT.

You know, like how Arena Shooters are different from team FPS like Counter Strike? THIS ARENT THE SAME GENRES

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>korean MMO and japanese MMO classified differently but always considered the same genre
>everyone is completely fine with ti

>western RPGs and japanese RPGs are classified differently but always considered the same genre
>Soulfags bitch and moan because they can't handle their favorite game being associated with other japanese games
Hilarious

>>382682282
An RPG with turn-based mechanics and a variety of party members developed in the west does not suddenly turn into a JRPG you fucking spaz, how fucking insecure are you?

>>382682509

Tell that to most indie devs then. They're pretty sure they're making JRPGs.

>>382682374

Uh no? Why else do you think people are making distinctions between Gook MMOs and Japanese MMOs like FFXIV?

Lurk more fuckwad.

>>382682785
People classify them differently, but they have never ever been considered different genres. There are those who refuse to play one in favor of the other, but the stylistic differences are not something that can only exclusively be produced in either country. You'd have to be a tremendous faggot to not even understand that the only basis for both in the case of MMOs and RPGs that it's dependant on where the game is developed.

>>382658130
>GE
>bland monster design

>Japanese video games have gameplay
lol not since the PS2

There is nothing Soulfags can't shit up, let this be proof

>>382655447
Are you implying that Japs usually have low standards for games?

>>382682993
>he says this when Dark Souls became one of the most popular Japanese games ever

>>382681531
>JRPG has never ever been a genre.

It's been a genre for longer than you've been alive, summerfriend.

>>382683604
Yeah because the public totally isn't attracted to trash tier games.

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>>382683942
Are you making a clever little joke there senpai? DS is objectively great.

>>382683942
>I'm so cool and hipster for not thinking like the stupid masses, i'm so intelligent with my unique opinions *tips fedora*

>>382684241
>DS
>Good
You're actually being serious aren't you.

>>382684402
Not an argument. You role-playing fedora hipster.

>>382684283
not him but I can only agree that the whole franchise is pretty much powered by the "its so hard" meme. You cannot tell if the game wants to be rpg or action game because it falls short in both categories. Dark Souls 3 felt like most refined experience of them all but even then its just a one playthrough game because it didnt really improve on anything apart from graphics and more fluid animations.

>>382684497
Well this anon pretty much summed up my next post. >>382684736

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>>382684736
>powered by the "its so hard" meme.
That's just Bamco marketing strategy. The games are fun and challenging on their own. I played Armored Core for the same rewarding feeling.

>>382684836
He didn't really say anything and you're just parroting because you have no arguments.

>>382684736

Lol this. Nobody gave a fuck that Dark Souls was Japanese. People were drawn to it like a moth because it was the new hard core game that finishing it meant that you win a badge of coolness or something

>>382685138
>He didn't really say anything
Now look who has no argument.

>>382686018
You are. Because I already debunked his.

>I don't like this game because I hate people who like this game! they're cringy and they fell for the meme and the fucking game is popular waaaah
Cuck.

>>382685138
>The games are fun and challenging on their own
>fun
>challenging
Dude, it's roll around and parry: The series. Both of which are incredibly easy to pull off. Where's the challenge in that?

>>382686420

Not to mention, zone around the big ass enemy and poke him the ass several times while he flails around like an idiot.

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>>382686420
>dude lmao you just kick the fucking ball and win there's no challenge in that
>the game is fucking easy, look at me I'm so fucking l33t and better than everybody

>>382686732

Well, games are stupid. What's your point?

>>382686420
99.9% of action games can be summed up as dodge and block to be invincible.

Also parrying in DS is objectively hard especially without specialized equipment. The parry window is both small and delayed, how small and delayed varying by weapon.

>>382686732
>>dude lmao you just kick the fucking ball and win there's no challenge in that
And you know, actually out play the other players on the field and utilize some teamwork.

The DaS series on the other hand is braindead easy because the bosses and enemies have extremely obvious tells. It's like every enemy is the Dire Miralis.
The only way you can get killed is if it's a cheap death by a hidden enemy or something.

>>382687140
>Also parrying in DS is objectively hard
It really isn't.

>>382687140
Yes but in some games the reaction time required for dodge is much smaller. In Dark Souls rection times are generous 500ms or more and most of the time you arent fightning against multiple enemies. And when enemy misses he usually just stands there for 2 seconds waiting to get hit. Now compare this to something like DMC where there are enemies whos frontswing time go below 200ms on turbo and for you to attack you need to do ten times more inputs ten times faster than in a Souls game.

>>382653303
Another souls LOL so hard I ded game

>>382688008
they went out of their way to say that difficulty isn't a priority

>>382687689
>It really isn't.
Really because I can't remember many less forgiving windows besides perfect guard in DMC but at least it was instant, or that funky parry in Way of The Samurai 1 that was on button release.
>>382687723
Well that doesn't change the nature of dodge and parry though. Better bitch about DS being slow paced then.

Game looks so half-assed and bland still. What are they even doing with it at this point?

>>382688208
>I can't remember many less forgiving windows
Guess you haven't played many games then.

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>>382688086
>is both weeaboo edgetrash AND easy as fuck

>>382680671
>Dev here
stopped reading right there

>>382688492
>dude FUCK dark souls it's just cheap meme difficulty
>just making the game hard isn't the priority
>DUDE LMAO THIS GAME IS FUCKING CASUAL EASY GARBO LMAO
Fucking Christ.

After seeing the trailer I feel like this is gonna be one of the worst videogames ever.
It's like some dad in his 40s saw the Souls series and thought he could make a game like that to grab some cash. And then he thought to himself:
>What do kids those days like besides Dark Souls?
And so he added in anime aesthetics. In a Japanese game with Western-style combat.

Nigga any of you ever played an anime game? The combat DOES NOT WORK with the artstyle at all. It looks bland, boring and absolutely unaesthetic. But he couldn't put anime combat in because then it would just be DmC

>>382688889
I don't know man, I'm loving everything that I'm seeing so far.

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>>382688776
>dude FUCK dark souls it's just cheap meme difficulty
When did i say this weeb?

>>382688889
I like it desu

>>382688332
I see neither have you

>>382688889
>DUDE EDGY MASKS LMAO
Nips running out of ideas?

>>382688889
>Dark souls
>Liked by kids
If anything they should have made an anime battlefield if they were really thinking like that.

>>382689176
>DUDE LIKE VAMPIRES WE GOTTA SHIT MORE ON DRACULA'S GRAVE

>>382688008
>>382689073

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>>382689415
That's a different anon

>>382689239
>anime battlefield
Please tell me that exists I beg you

>>382689630
There's anime csgo

>>382653303
>Everything in this is exactly like souls
>Somehow this seems bad and soul is a masterpiece

Everytime.
But i agree it does seems to suck, but the formula wants that to begin with.

Those animations are dogshit holy fuck

>>382690002
The enemies look kinda decent
The problem is kirito

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>>382690287
>The problem is kirito
You mean the playable character? That's just a placeholder. You can customize your character. Including the gender.

>>382690427
I'm talking about the animations
He looks like has back problems and can't move properly
His feet slide when slow walking
His attacks look autistic

>>382690590
Anime characters are all autistic spergs with exaggerated movements.

>>382690714
Yeah but it's no excuse

>>382690785
Except if you're doing an anime-styled game, then having anime-type exaggerated movement is fitting

>>382690785
It's fitting though. Are you expecting this guy to half-and-hand his sword lol? Some weapons in DS also give you autistic flips and anime shit moves.

>>382653303
can i play as a loli?
this is important

>>382690849
You can do anime shit without it looking like it was animated by a korean monkey
>>382690915
Dark Souls jumps are different because they're less about showing that "I WASN'T EVEN TRYING NOW I'LL SHOW YOU ALL MY POWER" and more about being inhuman and unnatural, since only the most ancient things in dark souls autistically jump
also they look better and have more personality

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>Take Dark Souls
>Add anime
>Suddenly the gameplay is worse

???

>>382690915

Yeah but this one is badly animated. If you want to be anime, go full over the top and try to be like DMC, not this half ass shit.

>>382690590
>His attacks look autistic
That doesn't actually mean anything

>>382690590
>>382690714
>>382690785
>>382690849
>>382690915
The problem isn't that movement is exaggerated retards. The problem is that it lacks punch and dynamics. He is wielding a fairly big sword by using one hand to swing it. The swings look fairly anemic, from the speed to lack of enemy reaction which amounts to the feeling that he is swinging a fucking oil branch not a real sword.

Proper anime movements would be him actually using the other hand and rotating his body more with both more impact and speed.

>>382691042
There is customization so we should be able to.

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>>382691042
We haven't seen the character creator yet, so all we have to go on is PR words. Chances are you'll at least be able to make something similar to Mia.

>>382691042
As a girl yes. As a loli probably not.

I'd rather play Nier Tomato. Thats an anime game done right

>>382691293
ok

>>382691268

What a garbage design. Those stockings look awful.

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>>382691384
She looks great desu

>>382653303

Why is it so slow and repetitive? Where's the background music? Those enemies also telegraph their attacks way too easily holy shit

>>382691473
Damn.....so this.........is the power............of Unreal® Engine 4.................................not bad

>>382691268
>people think this is good design
H
A
H

>>382691504
>Where's the background music?
They have no originality so they're copying everything from dark souls
dark soul has no background music for fighting normal enemies

>>382691268
>>382691473
Oh my god look at her trench coat. Would you fucking look at that.

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>>382691813
It is, and has been the main draw for it if the threads are any indication. Sad you can't enjoy it friend.

>>382691268

That costume makes no goddamn sense. It's like a crack whore who did her shopping list a dumpster

>>382691907

>main draw

You mean everyone shitting on how bad this game looks like?

>>382691473
god look at that sweetness i want her juice

>>382691912
Well it's a post-apocalypse so she probably did.

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Threadly reminder.

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>>382691907
>He UNIRONICALLY likes this edge babushka abomination

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>>382691912
That doesn't actually mean anything, care to elaborate?

>>382691989
If you were around for the threads during announcement, there were plenty of people talking about how much they love her design. Later threads had people complaining about it being anime alot, but that's just par for the course when you have an anime game with Soulsfags in the threads.

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>character only got hit when the person playing actually tried to get hit

its gonna be shit

>>382691912
that's vampires for you

dirty smelly crack whore grandmas

>>382692018
If they don't allow me to wield a katana and wear a fedora I'm boycotting.

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>>382692074
>he unironically doesn't

>>382653626
every game ever

>>382692105
>there were plenty of people talking about how much they love her design
>If a lot of people have shit taste it's not shit taste

>>382692074
Not him but I unironically do.

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>>382692282
If it's highly appealing to an audience (the same audience the game is marketed towards mind you), then that means it's a good design.

>>382692018
DUAL WIELD

I know it has co o.o but what about PvP?

It's animu. Which means waifus. Which in turn means I can kill your waifu.

westaboos BTFO

>>382692412
This means nothing
No matter how shit something is, there will always be people that like
this is proved by the fact that there are people who like code vein

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>>382692654
A good design doesn't have to appeal to you, if it's highly appealing to a certain audience then that does mean that it's a good design.

>>382653506
Don't bother questioning autism.

Bane?

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>>382693387

>>382693458
Why does she wear the mask?

>>382693605
She's a small girl.

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>>382693605
She's a big girl

>>382653303
Is she suppossed to be Russian?

>>382653303
>Japan's answer for Bloodborne
Pathetic

>>382695224
German. So basically a Russian rape-baby.

>>382693816
CodeBain

>>382669147
But GE3's already been announced.

>>382653751

Some guy spent one year working on it.

But there was another Batman game with even more amazing cape physics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65IsSRMi4i0

the animation/motion looks really great. Hope a female character is playable

>>382697970
They already said you can play as a girl.

>>382698174
cool

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>>382698174
How young are we talking?

>>382653576
more like expectedly satisfactory