Do you prefer this fighter style of dragonball game or the 3d

This obviously, the other games are shovelware.

Yes.

>>382589885
2D, but I would also buy a 3D game with Raging Blast gameplay, Xenoverse attacks/combos, and Tenkaichi 3 roster size

I like the sims fine, but we have more than enough of them. I'm glad to have FighterZ.

2D, but I wish it was single fighters. 3v3 for some reason always feels like it had less charm

Fighter z is going to be a boring mess, just another shit that looks pretty but has horrible gameplay, it's sad that it's going to sell too just because of bandwagon hype and it looks

The 2D kind is way better for local multiplayer, but I hardly ever do that anymore. So 3D.

>>382589885
I feel like arcade fighters are not as fun because if you suck then you can't have fun, whereas games like Xenoverse still give you the option to have fun if you're really competitive.

>>382590561
3v3 comes off like just having the game be 1v1 would have been too shallow, so they made it a team fighter to take on mechanics like dhcs, etc.

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>>382590574
>but has horrible gameplay
>Arc System
This post will get serious replies

>>382589885
The arena style isn't without its charms. It fits perfectly in a story driven game like Xenoverse, but in a primarily competitive game like budokai or tenkaichi, it really doesn't work.

2D style fighters are are known for their tight controls and easy to balance archetypes. Arena fighters are often thought of as fiddly to learn, and awkward to control with severe balancing issues stemming from samey characters and the unnecessarily large play area.

>>382589885

I stopped playing Dragon Ball fighters after Budokai 3, so yeah this.

>>382590816
have you seen the gameplay? it's boring and repititve as fuck because all the chars play the same.
>quartercircles the game
>good

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What are the chances of getting some sweet, sweet Super DLC?

>>382590940
Like all fighters? K

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>>382590940
Don't even try this shit with me nigga

>>382590953
High.

>>382591195
>>382591235
don't play fighting games do ya, fighting games r deep and have lots going for them, this shit is going to be shallow as fuck

>>382589885
The Tenkaichi model is shpoovelware that devs came up with because faggots will buy anything with DBZ on the title so they've made the same low effort game over and over for more than a decade.

Tenkaichi formula is to fighting games what musous are to hack and slash.

Hopefully this game will kill them.

>>382591359
>don't play fighting games do ya
Read your own post

>>382591425
what be wrong with it mon

>>382590940
Don't know where you got your sources from but they literally said they made the 6 in the demo play similar for people jump to try out the mechanics as they're just standard characters. New Characters afterwards would play unique, also it's only a little over 20% done dumbass, it's nowhere near polished yet.

It either has to be a good fighting game or go full fanservice while still retaining fun mechanics.

Budokai Tenkaichi 2, Buu's Fury, and Fusions are the only good DBZ games; and everything else is trash barring possibly Fighter Z.

>inb4 Budokai shits and Xenoverse tards reply

>>382591543
Hope you don't actually believe that shit

https://strawpoll.com/5eb7z3r

>>382591638
>Arc System
This could be their first "serious" casualized fighting game, because it will sell anyways.
Is this what you're saying?

>>382591638
>I'm not supposed to believe something stated in an interview and the fact the game is getting a closed beta soon and to be playable at EVO to get feedback on because the game isn't finished yet

Alright you hooked me, I'm done.
Back into the ocean I go.

>>382591835
gameplay is whack and lame as fuck my nigga

>>382591942
I think the game looks great, but honestly you shouldn't take the producer's word for it. It remains to be seen if the game will really have variety.

>>382592023
what's whack about it?

>>382591942
>believing what anyone says in an interview as fact
Nigga, it's time to grow up, just need to wait for the finished game, but whats out right now and what they are showing off has been shit, but atleast it's pretty yo

>>382591942
I guess you believed ComboFiend when he said nobody remembers the X-Men, huh?

>>382592121
all the specials are like beam or tackle and with it being a simple as fuck shallow piece of shit isn't that great

>>382592023
I asked you a question.
>>382591835

I like FighterZ because it's the Marvel vs Capcom sequel that I wanted MvC:I to be.

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>>382592315
not all the specials are beams and the tackle you might be talking about is the homing rush.

>tfw we get a style choice that lets you fuse with your assist

>>382592547
>styles
never happening

>>382592257
>>382592045
>>382592136
What was said was literally basic and obvious info, you niggas are overthinking way too much into this shit.

>>382590953
Well, Golden Frieza is in so probably.

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I prefer Fighter Z. At least is a full fledged fighting game. Nevetheless I'm worried about the mechanical variety of the characters. DB characters and their moves are already designed and they aren't really different from each other in that sense. Sure, one of the devs said only the first ones are similar and that the upcoming characters will be more unique but I really don't trust it.

>>382589885
I prefer this. The only thing I'm not jazzed about is the 3v3 aspect, as I've never played a game where it clicked for me. Everything else is GOAT.

>>382592824
Does "grain of salt" not ring any bells?

the arena type DBZ games are way overdone at this point and they all play more or less the same too. A proper 2D fighting game using DBZ characters is something many people have been asking for since the early 90's but we never got one. The closest was the Supersonic stuff on GBA and then the fan-made Hyper DBZ Mugen game. There were also many other DBZ 2D fighting games on Snes but they were all cluncky ass unplayable trash, so yeah, FighterZ will be the first ever proper DBZ fighting game ever made and is a welcomed change of pace.

>>382590940
>quartercircles the game
what's with this dumb /v/ meme. literally every fighting game thread is about DP inputs like they are the most deep and hardcore thing ever

>>382593035
I don't think they are going to make everyone's moveset as close to the manga like the one's we've seen so far and take their liberties, but until I see such a thing that's just wishful thinking.

>tfw without dragon rush Budokai 3 would have been perfect

THEY WERE SO CLOSE

>>382593287
there are more inputs in fighting games besides quartercircles, if everyone just does qcf and qcb, why the fuck should I play this shit?

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>>382593035
Launch could be like Cable from MvC2 or Saki from TvC, but Launch isn't getting into the game. She would also have a stance (personality) mechanic that would probably have their own unique benefits. A perfect character for ArcSys to implement.

Too bad she's not getting in the game though.

>>382593597
so if there are characters with half circle inputs, you'll play it?

>>382594063
i'd give it more of a chance if chars actually played differently yeah

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>>382594170
You are aware that more factors into a character's playstyle than motions right?

>>382593917
Launch is such a nothing character that her creator literally forgot he made her in the first place.

>>382594620
For what I've read on these threads, people only want her either because she has the potential to be different, which twisting around some movements that can be applied to anyone, or to fill the waifu quota.

Everyone on the Universe 7 team is definitely making it in the game.

>>382589885
I prefer Fighters because they are actually trying to make a good fighting game and only a fucking dumbass would say otherwise. All that old shit is fun for the fanservice and spectacle but they're almost all terrible games.

>>382594063
>https://strawpoll.com/5eb7z3r
Everyone knows it not a real fighting game without 720 charge motions anon.

I wish we got a proper Battle Zenkai home port.

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What characters do you guys want but know there is a 0% chance of getting in? For me its this guy, Bojack Unbound is my favorite DBZ movie and his design is really cool in my opinion.

>>382592257
>You will never ever make a an equivalent this false.
Combofiend is trying to put out a fire that has to do with brass, while the other was a guy outlining their game.

>>382589885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUhgBFI4dOw

>>382596221
Bojack is honestly whatever. Only good thing about it is the chick and Trunks design.

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>>382590561
>single fighters
evergame ever

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What fighters do you want?
Aside from easily confirmable ones, I'd like these due to fighting styles and character design.
>Hit (Time Leap, Time Stop, Intangibility > Instant Movement, Pressure Points and Killing Ki Blasts would play well into a fighting game. Since Time Leap & Stop allows him to store time for parallel universe techniques, you've got management system too.)
>Black (Not a Goku clone, since he prefers sword fighting and can stick explosive needles into people, and his rosé aura would look awesome.)
>Beerus (Could easily play like a Slayer style character that barely tries but pulls it off with some class, can paralyze, HAKAI, Hakai energy bomb people and pressure point, as well as negate energy attacks.)
>Merged Zamasu (More of a zoner than Black, can heal by powering up his ki albeit to a small extent, can still swordfight and is a capable grappler since he can crush bones by gripping with some ki. Also portals and his eagle thing.)
You could always replace M. Zamasu with Future Zamasu but I think he'd be a "weaker but more supportive" character focusing on counters.

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>>382596929
>the chick
Yes.

>>382590776
That's exactly what ASW did.

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>>382597046
I think this would look great in Xrd's visuals.

>>382590839
and broken builds

>>382597046
the only interesting choice from super is hit
everyone else is pure garbage
black is just a shit goku clone with pink hair

>>382597358
>black is just a shit goku clone with pink hair
Robo Ky is just a Ky clone
Order Sol is just a Sol Clone

>>382597441
clones are cancer that shouldn't exist

>>382591638
>lets start with the most complicated characters on e3 casual smasher show floor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBtT-F-YzDI

>>382596221
Cooler and Janemba
For some years now the movie characters have not been making the cut in DB games until sequels though
I hate GT but Omega Shenron could have a fucking awesome moveset

>>382592528
hopefully theres a bit of depth to homing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DtlUQL4Eic

the last db game i played was that ps1 2d fightan with 3d models and has gt characters and it was dog shit. Are there any db games the plays like dbz legends?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92uHFKIetUY

>>382589885

3v3 with dragonball makes sense. It allows for a more accurate portrayal of "power levels" vs a 1v1 fighter.

>>382597046
Hit's already deconfirmed, it's Dragon Ball Fighter "Z", not "Super".

Only "newish" characters we might get are Whis, Beerus, and Jaco.

>Do you prefer competitive fighting games or casual shovelware?

This is a really easy question.

>>382597560
Order Sol has a different moveset and mechanics from Sol
Black uses a ki sword and combines Zamasu and Goku, so he's like an Order-Goku either way you look at it.

Beerus is gaurranteed anyway, I just hope he utilizes the stuff I described.

>>382594597
oh fuck, its super dbz all over again that little fucking cunt

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>>382598202
>Dragon Ball Fighter

>>382598202
>Hit's already deconfirmed, it's Dragon Ball Fighter "Z", not "Super".

This is the most retarded "logic" I've ever seen.

>>382589885
This is the correct form of fightan.

The first DBZ fighter that doesn't look like dogshit.

There are some old school games similar to this, but their gameplay is garbage.

>>382598202
Z has no described meaning in this contrxt since it's not DBZ, it's DBFZ

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>>382598235
>Black uses a ki sword

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>>382598202

omega Shenron's already deconfirmed, it's Dragon Ball "Z" Tenkaichi 3, not "GT"

>>382598518
i am glad they used the original Ftrunks design
the one from super is shit

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>>382597046
Also if they do Merged Zamasu he should have Manga Physique but keep the anime poses and halo.

>>382598736
>xiccor 2.0

>dbshitters shitting again another fighterz thread

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>>382596929
>>382597065
Only issue I have with any of Bojack's crew is that they barely have any personality or lines. Still I'd also accept Zangya too.

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>>382598736
The halo wasn't that good. I didn't like the ki spam and supernovas. Lightning was pretty nice though.
>>382598815
Nice meme

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>>382598984
To be fair Zangya did show the most. Even if she she was the "Evil bad girl"

>>382598815
Zamasu actually believes he's creating a better world. He's like Hitler, or at least an ethnic extremist of some sort.
People call Frieza space Hitler, but he's really more like space Stalin on a personal level. Zamasu would be god Hitler in comparison.
Xicor just wanted to prove his might or something.
>>382598856
>let's shit on someone instead of talking about interesting non-generic-power-fighter roster choices and their mechanics

>>382599702
zamasu was a literal autist

>>382599702
Its calleds fighterZ for a reason.
There wont be dbshit in there.

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>>382599702
>Zamasu actually believes he's creating a better world.

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>>382599329
girl team?

>>382599996
>>382599996
see >>382598608

the Z is there for marketing reason

>>382600075
He was specifically nuking cities in that scene, mortals and their creations plague the environment and as long as he isn't causing global extinction of plants and animals, all's good.

>>382593406
>What is Infinite World
Literally Budokai 3 with more characters, bigger movesets, and no dragon rush bullshit.

>>382589885
I prefer Super DBZ.

>>382594597
This webm is actually giving me hope for the game.

>>382589885
I prefer them to be fun, I don't care what style it's in as long as it's fun.

>>382594597
Was that a fucking EX seismo?
This game has EX moves?

>>382590940
Killer Instinct only uses quarter circles and the occasional DP or back-forward (not charge), and literally every character plays differently. This is not a valid argument.

>>382601629
Yes. H moves act as EX

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>>382599329
Yeah, and to be fair there really isn't enough time in a DBZ "movie" (Bojack Unbound is 50 minutes with credits) to develop any character than isn't the main villain, and sadly they barely develop Bojack too because he doesn't show up until 25-30 minutes in.

Also
>All Bojack fanart sucks, a bunch of great Zangya ones.
I should have seen this coming.

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>>382601498
I couple of neat webms I can share.

>>382591359
>fighting games r deep and have lots going for them
Fuck me, the bait is so obvious yet I can't help but reply. (You)

>>382593220
How did JoJo and Persona get legit fighters before DBZ?

>>382602005
Got any more zoning webms?

That is what my dick gets hard at.

I want to be hype for this game, but I can't manage to. I love the visuals, but there's just so many DBZ games that the roster won't surprise me, and I think it'll end up being boring. Especially since we've already seen similar games, even if this one ends up being the best one by far.

If the game was a crossover with other Shounen Jump manga, then that would be a fantastic game, and it'd fit better with the tag system, though maybe Capcom has that trademarked. It'd give the game more variety too, as most fighters look samey so far.

>>382601847
So just like Melty/Uniel? That's cool. I assume it only works for moves with variations right? Since there are specials which only use the Ki blast button.

>>382602235
>Persona
Super DBZ was released before P4A.

>>382602235
Cause everyones waiting for them to get back the rights for budokai tenkaichi 3 to do a remaster of that with supers content as well as the fact that in general Original Creation sims and arena fighters sell more than tourney fighters.

>>382593917
Her nice form would be like Phoenix Wright and her sneezing would change stances. Yeah I want Launch too, but that'll never happen.

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>>382602381
nobody else has even tried it. it's weird.

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i prefer this

>>382594597
Goddamn, Frieza looks so fun to spam with.

>>382589885
arksys does mvc2? would pick this over any other dbz fighter

>>382602235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NcrmrDkKRc

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>>382602860
Shame.

If it gonna be a successor to MvC2, it better be a true successor. I want the DBZ equivalent of Storm/Sent/Cable/Blackheart/Spiral/Doom/Sim/Cyke/Commando.

>>382603096
>1996

Damn, that even beats Heritage. ASB is not a legit fighting game.

>>382602235
Because DBZ is honestly a pretty shit licence for a fighting game, especially a balanced one. Many characters fly and don't have defined fighting styles, that goes against most game design notions for 2d fighters.
You need to put some work so not everyone ends up being a clone and to make sure the game ends up reasonably balanced. Maybe that's why they chose to make DBFZ a 3v3 fighter, as you can give meta niches to characters to differentiate them further like batteries, assists and anchors.

>>382593220
But this was before P4A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlOur3o5LSs

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>>382596221
Don't know if it's zero, but I'd say it's a pretty low chance.

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>>382602392
jstars casual buttonsmashers probably dont care about competitive aspects

>>382602874
inb4 dmca

>>382597046
>thinking Dickolo and Turles 2.0 have good character designs

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>>382603375
What if Gotenks' ghosts act like sentinel drones in his assist?

>>382591616
shin budokai on psp was good.

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>>382597046

How about Mr. Popo, but the TFS Abridged version of Mr. Popo?

>Only move is Press A to immediately destroy your enemy and win automatically

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>>382603458
need to pick weirdos or DB

>>382604108
it would have been much better if there was no aura guard and no strafing

>>382603805
Yeah, which is why Arcsys doing something similar with a more competitive focus it would be amazing. Seeing how shitty J-Stars came out I doubt it's possible to make a big game with so many properties without studios interfering.

>>382603375
>instant transmissions behind you and assist
heh... kameheha

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i prefer this style. 3d arena shit is nothing for role playing faggots. competitive fighting is what DBZ was truly meant to be.

>>382591616
budokai tenkaichi 3 is better

>>382603458
Newer DB characters have more definable fighting styles tho. And I mean mostly things from BoG onward, the popular ones anyway.

>>382604306
makes little sense because xenoverse casuals shitting on dbfz

>>382602580
what about smash don't those sell a lot?

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>>382596221
Champa. Or pretty much any GoD that isn't Beerus.

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If I got even one of these guys i'd be happy.

>>382589885
I prefer tenkaichi style. I don't need a competitive game. I just want a dragon ball game where i can do flashy stuff and go fast.
That doesn't really work in 2D.

>inb4 xenoverse
it sucks

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>>382596221
Big name new ToP fighters, they're too new.
Might be DLC though.

>>382604459
Not that much really. Golden Freezer was the same, Zamasu and Black too but with a hand blade (unless you count filler). Jiren looks like he's going to be the same.

Only the secondary tournament fighters have interesting styles, but that's because they are secondary. That has always happened in the tournaments.

My only hope is that Ten Shin Han finally gets a proper rendition, focusing more on his DB fighting style than how shitty he is in DBZ.

>>382598202
what is golden freeza?

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>>382589885
I love 2D fighters, so definitely this. Xrd style graphics also look fucking sick.

>>382605060
Zamasu focused on redirecting attacks though. Black was more foot/sword than anything and did the divine lasso thing.

Golden Frieza in the current arc has more ki things, like homing death beams, stealing energy attacks and blowing people up by poking at them.

Hit isn't a secondary fighter.

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>>382604835
I hope if we get Adult Gohan he at least has his world tournament outfit. He looked pretty spiffy in that. I really hope he doesn't have an orange fucking gi or even piccolo gi.

>>382605773
Also the divine lasso thing could be implemented into his mechanics as stacking a bomb using his extended melee ki range (due to his sword) and his scythe could be used for manga m. zamasu portal fuckery.
That's pretty interesting stuff you can work with.

>>382606218
Adult Gohan is only a part of what I want. I want Great Saiyaman. He just happens to be Adult Gohan.

>>382607051
I haven't watched the series in so long but does Great Saiyaman have his own fighting style or do you just like his outfit?

>>382607589
It's the outfit and poses. He over exaggerates his motions a lot too. I'd settle for the costume being unlockable or DLC for Adult Gohan though.

>>382607051
I could see ASW be memers and give Videl the Saiyanman stuff while Adult Gohan is Mystic/Ultimate

>>382607589
He's completely different I'd say, as it's a character he created to fight crime while hiding his identity. It could work as a joke character if they want more diversity, as Adult Gohan would be pretty similar to Goku and his younger self.

I prefer the 2D fighter.

>>382589885
Its kinda inherent that its more like the show if you can fly around in 3D, but a 2D fighter will be better from a gameplay perspective. For showlike fanservice I will always go to BT3, nothing else compares in that regard.

>>382608005
>fly around in 3D
>bland lifeless terrain

>>382601742
reason why nobody cares for this shit and the people who actually liked fighting games moved on asap

>>382602165
wait I don't get it, are you saying fighting games are just mash fests or something?

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I'm a full casual, so I prefer 3d arena fighters.
BT3>XV2>the rest

What's the appeal of Xenoverse?
And is Videl playable?

>>382610282
It's appealing if you played BT3 and need a dbz game but then you realize it's nothing like BT3. At least it has Super characters right? Character Customization is fun but goddamn that tutorial is the worst thing ever. Fuck the first PQ.
It has Videl. Three/Four Skins of Videl.

>>382610282
Xenoverse is just PSO with DBZ stuff.

>>382610282
selfinsertfags

>>382589885
this fighter.

cant wait for the other dbz retards to get blown the fuck out in a real fighting game.

>>382611016
>'see me in xenoverse2 online'

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>>382589885
It's fun from what I've played, but to answer that question I will need to see the final roster and what the game offers content wise. The base GAMEPLAY I have experienced is solid, though and I prefer that.

A game that has competitive depth is obviously better.

That being said, as somebody who both enjoys competitive fighting games and casual fighters like the typical dbz or naruto games, I DO think you lose something in making it super competitive

After a while, you sort of just cease to see the franchise, visuals, and flavor the mechanics are attached to. To use Pokken as an example, since I really enjoy that competitively and like pokemon casually: Weavile is my favorite pokemon, and I obviously main him. The game in general has so many cool animations and little neat touches to harken back to pokemon, and just seeing pokemon fully animated and fighting like how you imagine in real time is an amazing novelty.

But after playing hunderds and thousands of matches online and going to locals and shit, you don't even see or notice anymore, you just see the underlying mechanics and the gameplay. And you can't ust pick up and play anpother character just to enjoy playing as that pokemon, because, as a competitive fighter, picking up another character is a real time and effort commitment.

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>>382610952
Is it worth it for single player?
You can only play as your character right? Not the show characters?

I think the online is the bulk of it, right?

>>382591421
>Tenkaichi formula is to fighting games what musous are to hack and slash.
Mindless fun? Sometimes a game can consist of just that.

>>382591421
Well, during the Tenkiashit series, SuperDBZ came out, and people shit over it cause NOT MUH TENKIASHIT!, someone gave SuperDBZ the title of worst 2015 title.

All in spite of the game being good and well rounded!.

>>382600187
The Z is a pun on Fighters.
How the fuck do people not get this?

>>382589885
this style. very excited for this game and the potential it could have. unlike the mashy 3d turds we have been getting forever now. once this series went the 3d route i hated it.

The only DB character we need is Launch imo.

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>>382613967
EAT IT
SUCK IT
BRING THE PAIN

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>>382589885
I'm fine with either, as long as the game is ____fun__

>>382603375
How do you even beat that?

>>382613967
>>382614295
AACHOOO

I like budokai 3. DBFZ is nice but obviously their small roster limitation doesn't compliment this series well. This is the series that normally has hundreds of characters, it'll be rough going down to 20-ish.

>>382614805
>it's a budokuck who believes his shit game hasn't been surpassed yet

>>382614590
Proper pushblock guard cancel to superjump out of it or call an assist after blockstun (it's not a true blockstring, you can see Magneto jump once or twice) to take the hit.

After that, it's pretty easy for Magneto. He can airdash over projectiles to get on his opponent's ass.

>>382614987
>this guy lacks the capacity of liking multiple games
How does it feel to have a mentality of a four year old?

>>382614805
I disagree, Dragonball isn't like pokemon where you kind of need a tenkaichi esque roster to please everyone. Honestly mid 30s should be more than enough to please most people, especially if you remove shit like kid gohan, goten, kid trunks and all the filler that are already replaced by other characters.

>>382614590
dont have to cheap defense/lockdown teams get nerfed to hell

>>382606218
I will tell you without giving out too much that many characters will get alt skins.

>>382615662
good hopefully not many more saiyins

>>382614805
I mean a lot of the characters in these games are clones, repeats, and nobodies. I don't think a lot of people are going to cry if we don't have 3 different versions of Bardock or Appule. You can condense it down into the 20-25 most popular/unique characters and be no worse off.

>>382616310
>hating on bardock
must be a yamchafag

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>went back and played budokai and tenkaichi series
>they're both shitty now

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So...Xenoverse 2 is recommended?

>>382617627
Only if you like grinding and making characters
It's pretty shit mechanically and CaC can't make actually good characters, better off playing as shit like Turles or SSGSS Goku

This is the optimal style for a long lasting, satisfying game play experience imo so yeah I prefer it.

>>382603770
it'd be super cute, but I wouldn't blame them for not including her.

>>382618043
She'd be a nice gag character, but I can see her making people asshurt if she ends up being top tier.

>>382590204
>shovelware

Do you even know what this means? It would seem you don't.

>>382617627
Tenkaichi 3 has probably the most replayability of the DBZ games.
DBZ games have surprising amounts of replayability now that I think about it.

So no, XV2 is not recommended.

My dream game would be ASW getting their hands on OPM and making a fighting game based on it.

>>382619938
But Saitama would never even be playable in such a game, though aside from that this would actually be pretty cool. Garou would be great.

I can see Arc Sys making more anime based fighters if this is really successful.

>>382620113
Saitama could definitely work as a semi-joke character. It's definitely more doable than in any other kind of game.

>>382620113
Saitama hidden unbeatable boss

>>382597871
That game was so freaking cool for its time.

>>382597871
Oh but to answer your question, you might like one of the Tenkaichi games.