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Just a reminder that if you didnt start play Pillars of Eternity

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Just a reminder that if you didnt start play Pillars of Eternity on the highest difficulty you are a casual scrub.
Also Poe thread
Anyone excited for PoE2?
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I played on POTD but fuck Expert and Iron Man. That shit is 2 much 4 me. Deadfire is looking good.
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>Backed on Fig

I was until that. Now I know that Obsidian is in with Tim Schafer and his pyramid scheme, and it makes me feel disgusted.

I feel ashamed every time I decide to play New Vegas, which is a shame, because that was easily one of my favorite RPGs.
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>>382528806
Expert Just takes away the range indicators and some other tooltips. They are not really necessary, Just very handy. But I get where you are coming from with the Iron Man. I tried doing three crowns solo and Got messed up pretty bad.
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>>382528904
Why is /v/ so fucking obsessed with Tim Schafer?
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im not going anywhere near paradox games ever again.
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>>382527659
Path of exile threads are in /vg/
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>>382529060
Pillars ain't Paradox. That's Tyranny.
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Just finished PoE1 for the first time on normal and had a BLAST. Adra dragon fucked my shit up but got it eventually.

Should I get Tyranny? Also is there a good summary of all the info we know about PoE2 anywhere?
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>>382529025
>Tim Schafer

Who?

Now, Mr. Shitface is someone I know /v/ hates, and I mean it's pretty easy to see why.

>Is a hack
>Supports the work of Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn
>Took 3.5 million dollars from Kickstarter and shat out Broken Age, a mediocre boring game that nobody likes

He was only notable when he was working at Lucas Arts, and Psychonauts was a fluke.
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>>382529168
Paradox is both dude. PoE got review bombed due to whole fisaco.
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>>382529203
>playing for the first time
>not path of the damned
Oh cmon, its not even that hard.
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How does anyone play this shit? I always get up to the first down with the people hung from the tree and quit. It's so fucking boring. Same goes for Baldur gate 2. That game is even worse. How are you going to boot up a game to read shit for 2 hours?
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>>382529203
No, Tyranny is shit, to make matters worse, it's being milked with awful DLC after awful DLC while shit like its cliffhanger ending continues unresolved. Shit writing, shit companions, shit combat. I strongly recommend against it. Wait for Pillars of Eternity 2 instead. In the mean time, there's some great RPGs out there, like Shadowrun: Dragonfall and Underrail, for example.

>>382529449
POTD is insanely hard 4 me. I did it but had to play retry like a hundred times against bosses like Concelhaut and Llengrath.
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>>382529587

I've played all the Shadowruns and Underrail looks like a bit too much for me (I never played the early Fallout games as I came to PC gaming late). Anything else worth checking out?

I do have Baldurs Gate: Enhanced Edition which might be worth checking out. I found it a bit dated when I tried a few years ago but now I've done Pillars maybe I'll find it easier to go back and enjoy.
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>>382529575
>He doesn't like to get immersed into RPGs
That's the comfy life
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>>382529587
I remember killing concelhaut of my first try but only because I was already max level. Llengrath on the other hand is like the hardest boss in game so no Wonder its that hard. Beating her took me few hours of trial and error
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>>382529775
Wasteland 2, maybe?
Divinity: Original Sin does have a good combat system, although the actual writing and plot is pretty weak.
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I play it on easy because I don't really care about fights in this game since I've heard it is really not worth mostly.
So I play it for the story.
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>>382529284
Paradox was contracted to publish the game. It was made solely by Obsidian.
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>>382529994
Well you heard wrong then.
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>>382529575
The rest of us don't have the attention span of a goldfish.
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>>382529994
Good man
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>>382529963

O shit I actually own Wasteland 2 from an early humble. Will download now.

Currently playing Divinity: OS after picking it up in the sale, but agreed to play it co-op so can only play at certain times.
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>>382530208
It's alright. Slow start but it really gets moving eventually. Can't think of much else if you're looking for modern CRPGS.
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>>382530093
Not really
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if you didn't play Divinity Original sin on strategist you're your mum
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Reminder

"Our game is 2 years old now, and theres a big sale coming up; better increase the price!"
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>>382527659
>mfw finished pillars 3 times in story mode
Fite me
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>>382530443
Part of me is jelly. I love PoE, but no way can I ever replay it. It's too meaty a game and I'm too autism about completionism. All I can do is wait for the sequel.
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>>382530443
You're smarter than me, I'm doing a Potd playthrough and it's not worth it
>let's put even more trash mobs in our game guys
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>>382530416
>Paradox

Remember what they did with EUIV.
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>>382527659
Prison sure was hard on Uncle Leo
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FUCK RPG CODEX!
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Post your watchers
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>>382532136
I wish, but Im a filthy phoneposter
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>>382528904
Fig has nothing to do with Tim Schafer.
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>>382529203
Tyranny is actually written well, unlike PoE. And that's coming from someone who pledged for PoE and just downloaded Tyranny.
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>>382528948
>Expert Just takes away the range indicators and some other tooltips
expert mode is complete bullshit in a game where aoe effects vary based on your stats.
if the ranges were fixed like in bg no problem but I'm not fucking checking the stats of my casters every time before i cast something with an aoe.
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I was just thinking about starting a new playthrough of PoE.

What fun class would you guys recommend?

I mostly played Cipher.
I druid fun?
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>>382533164
>I druid fun?
I like it, good spells and you hit like a truck when using spritshift
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>>382533164
Monk, if you haven't yet. Min-Max him.
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>>382533164
>fun classes in rpg balanced by Sawyer
no such thing
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>>382533247
I can't speak for current PoE, but back in the old days, I had Hiravias and he always got his ass kicked the second he shape-shifted.
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>>382533284
I thought about trying a monk because it looks interesting, but I'm never really into weaponless classes. Might try it though.

I heard paladin kinda suck.
What about barbarians?
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>>382529587
Tyranny is a better game than PoE.
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>>382533107
My friend played potd woth Expert for his first playthrough and didnt have any problems completing the game. I myself didnt enable Expert only because it was my first cRPG and I wanted to learn more about the mechanics and such.
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>>382533424
Barbarians are great mob destroyers, if you spec them right. Paladins are actually pretty decent but not particularly fun, since they're mostly tanks.

Also, you can give a Monk weapons, although it kinda goes against their point and unharmed is much cooler.
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>>382533425
Get out
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>>382533425
I don't agree, but I really liked the rp in Tyranny.
I played it like Judge Dredd, just upholding any law and decree for the good of Kyros.

That's one thing I didn't really like about PoE, no real role playing possible.
I wanted to make an oldish/experienced guy, but every single dialog line was my character being a complete dunce and not knowing anything about the world at all like a fucking child.

At least in Tyranny you had those nice mouse-over stuff that gave you all the info you needed at all time.
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>>382533514
Zahua Who i specked purely for dps did the most damage for me at the end of the game even though I Got him basically like 70 hours in
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>>382533368
It's better now, just use it to flank
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>>382533563
PoE was a massive disappointment with garbage encounters, a pointless story and literally no roleplay options. Builds don't exist, you just pick a class and that's pretty much it. At least in Tyranny you can make stupid spells to customize your guys a bit more.

>>382533638
I enjoyed being judge Dredd as well, the story was quite engaging and I liked Nerat and Ashe a lot. I can't remember a single character from PoE though which says a lot about the story.

Tyranny was extremely short and the epik cliffhanger ending didn't do it any favors but I still prefer it to PoE, since I actually cared about things happening in the world.
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>>382529110
>Path of exile threads are in /vg/
lel
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>>382533368
they might be squishy still but hit harder than rogues and they hit so fast they'll be fine tanking the guy they're hiting
Also by the end game they get a storm spell that stuns everything in an AoE every few seconds,
IMO druids are the best casters and can double as melee

>>382533164
What difficulty?
barbarians are a blast on hard or lower since they can clear mobs of enemies in no time while tanking them thanks to their crazy regen.
The cipher I'm playing on PoD is MVP on trash encounters but suck on bosses
Druids are crazy good like I said before but I would use hiravias instead
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>>382529110
wew
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>>382533484
It's not about being able to complete the game or not, it's about how much guesswork you have to do while playing.
sure it's a convenience thing, but one that is pretty big when put in dynamic changes of the mechanics.
And I'm usually the hardest difficulty-no-helps purist.
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>>382533484
You sound like one of those people that thinks RPGs are hard in general when they exist as a power fantasy for bullying retarded AI enemies.
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>>382533843
>I can't remember a single character from PoE though which says a lot about the story.

Really?
I found the story in PoE actually pretty good.
I really liked the background of despair with all the children being born soulless and the thing with the incarnate god.

The writing was pretty good too.
How did you not like Éder?
Durance was kind of an asshole but was very interesting too, and I liked every part of talking with the Grieving Mother.

That's just me though.
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I thin before deadfire comes out I'll do a unarmed barbarian run.
No idea if it's gonna work or ill be dead weight and dragon fodder later on.
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>>382534061
I mean I see where you are coming from but maybe im Just a bit too casual too really appreciate it to the fullest.
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>PoE
>highest difficulty
>enjoyable

Yeah, nah
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>>382533940
I play on hard because I'm a pussy and I like having fun.
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>>382534173
I may have misspoke, I did like the party members, Aloth and Durance were pretty cool, and Grieving Mothers YOU ARE ON A CLIFF WITH BABIES simulator was also quite fun, I meant that I can't remember any story related NPC or their problems. Honestly other than the souless children and "muh gods" I can't remember anything about the plot. Eothas is pretty much the only background lore character I can remember and he's closely tied to Durances' story.

It felt like the game was just too big and lacked detail, while Tyranny is a tiny game (insultingly so, some might argue) but I remember almost every detail because it was so dense with content. I guess I just prefer those types of games.
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>>382534212
>"bandit" two shots your tank
>j-just g-git gud
Being forced to cheese the retarded AI isn't gitting gud, and I wish people will realize this.
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>>382534129
But rpgs are harder in general if you want to play optimally. I dont meant it like if they are the hardest genre or something, Its more like they are on the higher end of the spectrum in terms of requiring working brain cells from the Player.
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>>382532136
>wanted to continue for months
>too lazy since I have to suffer through Act 2 and most of 3 before I can get back to White March
fug
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>>382534313
I hear you man, I guess potd isn't that big of a deal if you munchkin your party but even thought I like building a strong party before starting the game I refuse to do he whole 3 might tank or fighting under doorframes 24/7.

I actually got up to Act3 before quiting POTD when I started facing groups of enemies with 3-4 casters and a bunch of mooks both with insane saves and HP
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>>382534492
>bandit two shots your tank
Yeah this is not how it works
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>>382527659
Played it on normal, the dragons were difficult enough as they were, thank you.

>>382529284
On PoE Paradox was just a distribution and marketing partner handling after-the-fact fluff, they had nothing to do with the actual game. On PoE II Obsidian have said they'd like to take on more of the publisher responsibilities, so it's possible Paradox will have even less to do with the sequel.
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>>382534531
what in the fuck are you going to use all that resolve for
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>>382534573
Maybe his tank is a 3 resolve rogue
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>>382534531
You don't have to suffer through any of Act 3 for White March.
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>>382534518
I guess you're right. I just dislike how they handle difficulty, at least recent ones. You're either swarmed with shit or the enemies are immovable fortresses of rape. I actually only played Baldur's Gate recently and I very much liked how every enemy was a little puzzle you had to solve. Mages needed to be stripped of their protections and most tough enemies were weak to a certain element, which really did feel like proper strategy and tactics. It's a shame the AI is basically non existant, but I feel more modern RPGs should handle encounters like BG did.
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You're a casual if you didn't get this achievement on your first run.
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>>382534531
Cipher is clearly a ccbot/dps. What do you need that resolve for. Max intelligence and might.
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>>382534531
>>382534659
I own White March but haven't played the game since.
When do you do it, like what level?
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>>382534573
Okay, 20 bandits instagib your guys because every fight is against a swarm of trash enemies you need to persmastun and kill. Same thing really since the point is you need to crowd control them since aggro doesn't exist in any reasonable form.
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>>382534429
I agree my man.
I liked how Tyranny was condensed and you could replay it without too much annoying parts.

That thing at the beginning of a new game that felt like a choose your own story book was fucking fun to do. I'd take a whole game like that.
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I love this game but god damn does it have way too many fucking enemies. I swear I'm not using hyperbole when I say that it would be a much better game if it legitimately halved the number of enemies it has. There's nothing wrong with some empty map with calm exploration, Sawyer!
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>About to buy PoE
>look at steam page
>overwhelmingly negative

Whelp, looks I'm going to dodge this one.
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>>382534710
Sawyer says that it was perfectly designed for when you're around level 7/8 somewhere around Act 2.

With that said, I started it from a save right before you fall into the endgame hole, went to it, had the content scale up and still enjoyed it a lot.
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>>382533843
>I enjoyed being judge Dredd as well
>first part of the game
>fight the rebels and end up on top of the spire
>that stupid water mage which was one of their leader give up and tells me she wants to join me
>execute her
why would anybody take her in?
she was a traitor.
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>>382528904
>Now I know that Obsidian is in with Tim Schafer and his pyramid scheme

Sorry?

>>382527659
I am bit botherred due to discharge of Fenstermaker.
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>>382534907
Thanks.

Can you do both parts at once or do I need to level up and come back for the second part?
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>>382534710
WM1 is fine around level 7 or 8. You can turn on upscaling if you're 9+.
WM2 can be done immediately after that, so lvl 10 or so.

>>382534659
Was planning to go through at least some parts of Act 3, then upscale WM2. Not a bad idea, is it?

>>382534608
>>382534694
Muh dialogue checks though.
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>>382534690
Yeah, some fights on potd in Poe were ridiculous, for example the errands you get from the hunters. They Just stacked shitload of mobs with ridiculous stats that requried you to basically cheese them as hard as you can to even stand a chance.
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>>382534894
That's what Obsidian gets for trusting Paradox for anything
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>>382534969
Part 1 should level you up enough for Part 2, no problem. Unless you're going in level 1 or something.
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>artifact sword that can oneshot undead enemies
>to upgrade it you need to kill X undead enemies
>if you kill them with the weapon effect instead of normal damage, the quest doesn't progress

Do these people even play their games?
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>>382534785
Use chokepoints to your advantage and dont pull every mob from the location at once? Also if I remember correctly most crpgs are a cc Fiesta so no surprise you need cc.
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>>382535012
Didn't Paradox reverse that change tho? They already got the bad press though.
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If the loading times didn't get so fucking long by the end game I would replay this as much as I did bg2 but facing a loading screen every time I go into a tiny house is infuriating
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>>382534710
Wait for your priest to have Prayer against Imprisonment
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>>382534974
Being Smart gives more/better dialogue options thought.
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>>382535061
>>382534974
Thank you my men.
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>>382535127
Yeah, but that's what's up with all the negative reviews on PoE (and any other game associated with Paradox)
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>>382534692
I don't even want to know how autistic you have to be to do this shit.
many dozens of hours of kiting enemies, no thanks
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>>382527659
The lore and world creation was fucking garbo
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>>382535087
When you're just CCing a bunch of mindless drones it stops being fun. Every fight ended up with me masterfully spamming Sliken into a chokepoing while I spammed shit with muskets. I'd much rather prefer enemies having actual abilities, those wraiths were absolute garbage enemies and I fucking hate them but at least they had spells they used to fuck you over.
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>PoE thread
>no to minimal shitposting
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>>382534531
>old vailian
>white
there is something wrong here
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>>382535290
cultural appropriation
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>>382535290
>Old Vailia is 100% black
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>>382534531
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>>382535262
I don't think the lore itself was actually bad but the presentation was the problem. It's too vague and boring.
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Anyone else dislike the new portraits for the old companions? Maia Rua looks fine, but the main three look like shit. Pallegina looks like she was drawn by a /pol/tard wanting to WEpost
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>>382534692
>both archmages
there were 2? damn, I'll have to replay the game this summer
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>>382535491
>dat Eder
wew
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>>382535491
Eder looks like Littlefinger.
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>>382535491
Jesus Christ how horrible
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>>382535491
Edér's time as a mayor has given him an excessive smug surge
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>>382535491
>eder
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>>382527659

>don't get XP from fighting

>SJW story

DROPPED after 1 hour.
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>>382535491
>PoE 1 Edér
>Looks like the nicest man in town

>PoE 2 Edér
>Very obviously talking shit behind your back
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>>382527659
>he didnt defeat POTD on Expert + Iron Man
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>>382527659
Path of exile thread ? Oh boy !!
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>>382535638
Name ONE (1) SJW thing you found in your one hour of playing Pillars of Eternity.
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Is there a class/build that would benefit from having high per/int/res for MAXIMUM dialogue?
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>>382535716
Niggers
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>>382535638
>SJW story
?
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>>382535281
Yeah except later on basically every trash mob has some way to fuck with you. You cant Just expect earlygame mobs to have ridiculous abilities or you would Just get rekt every single time. Still you have those teleporting wraiths, or paralyzing xaurips for the early game. Using chokepoints is safe but its not 100% bulletproof. Ive had many instances where my defence Got broken and I had to Come up with solution on the fly.
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>>382535712
Can't wait for PoE2 with 10 acts.
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>>382527659
but the combat is garbage and not worth getting into
tyranny was even worse though
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>>382535638
>reddit spacing
>images.jpg
>'muh sjw'
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>>382535762
>>382535750
he probably went full retard and starting reading every fucking backer NPC he met.
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>>382535638
Holy fucking shit I hate /pol/ so much. Why is this dead meme still alive, kill yourself you white fucking nigger
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>>382535203
So does being perceptive. Working on it, senpai.

Well, I admit I went a little overboard with Resolve. Usually skipping a lot of those checks anyway too.
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>>382535750
Tanks. Paladins often dump perception for might to boost healing, but a fighter tank focused on landing stuns and maximizing their duration loves perception, int, and resolve.
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>>382535491
Holy shit that Eder. Looks like the stereotypical 45+ uber-American, hyper-masculine manly man on a daytime soap opera, only with blonde hair.

Pallegina from PoE is easily my favorite portrait in any RPG ever, it's just magnificent, so naturally everything will pale to that in my eyes. If it's possible I'll probably mod it back in.
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>>382536384
Since I'm running a Pally as MC, I dropped her as soon as I got her. My Pally had better stats anyway
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>>382534531
Source for the portrait?
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>>382535491
This will always be Eder to me.
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>>382536627
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>>382535491
just like the old inifity engine games

you'll get used to them
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>>382537706
Christ. BG 2's portraits are so fucking ugly. I guess they really are going for a rip off.
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>>382527659
Just started this game plus dlc as a fire godlike monk, neat so far.
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>Enemies stun on hit
>Enemies radiate a fear aura
>Enemies explode on death
>Enemies AoE stun your party for days

That shit only worked on the old games since you had equally op tools like flooding them with summons or save or die spells but in POE it doesn't fly since your best bet is chain casting CC and rest afterwards
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>>382538008
Dude, flooding with summons is a solid tactic in PoE using the items that summon stuff. You can get 1-2 summoning items for every party member later on in the game.
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>>382538136
summons in POE are not even close in power and number to bg or iwd man, remember animate dead?
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>people say White March has good encounter
>it's waves of ogre, sahaguin and fucking spirits
What am I missing
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>>382540018
Wait until you enter the fortress and find the thousands of spirits :^)
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>>382540801
I am in the fortress
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>>382541006
Enjoy those dwarves
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Lowlife RF builds are still capable of clearing endgame?
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>>382541580
Solo?
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>>382541441
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>>382527659
>there are literally people on this Mongolian sword trading website that literally have such bad taste in entertainment

Hoolee Dooley
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>>382542482
Go home kid
:^)
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>>382527659
>"""balanced""" RTWP
>path of the damned
lol nope i gave up when i reached caed nua. honestly the combat is so shit and gay that you cannot expect me to slog through that just for LE CHALLENGE XDD SO HARDCOAR XDD GIT GUD XXDDDD
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>>382542595
You sound a bit mad, son
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>>382542595
Maybe you are Just bad anon. Go play Nintendo or Ubisoft maybe
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>>382542816
no actually pillars of excrement combat is objectively shit and no am,ount of josh sawyer damage control will change that fact
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To the people that defend this game garbage combat, what enjoyment do you get from having absolutely no strategy involved in any of the encounters and just spamming shit to win?

The AI is garbage and the only time i ever felt challenged was the dragons only because they one hit my party without proper gear.

I'm not against RTwP, but they really need to fucking reduce the amount of party members and the amount of trash you fight.
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>>382543175
Nah, your opinion is pure excrement. Have fun with your assasins creed unity easy playthrough.
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>>382527659
Shitty game no matter how you look at it, Tyranny still suck but even it is better than that.
>>
>>382535491
If PoE2 handles portraits the same way PoE does you can just use the old ones. I know I will.
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>>382543524
>To the people that defend this game garbage combat, what enjoyment do you get from having absolutely no strategy involved in any of the encounters and just spamming shit to win?
Not true

>>382543524
>I'm not against RTwP, but they really need to fucking reduce the amount of party members
They're doing this on Deadfire, and I fucking hate it. If anything, they should increase the size.

>and the amount of trash you fight.
Agreed
>>
what classes did you chucklefucks play?
>>
>the only equiment that gives a bonus to mechanics is random and may never appear
Fucking hell
>>
>>382544269
Monk, Barbarian and Cipher
Monk a best
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>>382544541
qt
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>>382543984
I have finished this game on hard mode until up the expansion, how can you come to a mongolian sign forum and lie on it?

There is not a single modicum of strategy on this game deviating from the spam cc and nuke your opponents to win. Occasionally there will be a spirit that port to your mages or enemies that spam charm on your party and you need to use a spell to counter it, but aside from that, the game never expect anything different from you.

Go on, tell me all the strategic fights you had. Every encounter was garbage to me, and the only ones i remember were the dragons like i said.
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>>382527659
Is that the love child of Patrick Steward and Jonathan Banks?
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>>382544541
What the hell, not even in Pillars of Eternity threads, can I avoid fap-baits.

Also, that girl looks like she might be 15, you monster.
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>>382544541
Can't speak moon
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>>382544269
Druid
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>>382545307
He reminded me of an old, wrinkled Dwayne Johnson with clown hair.
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>>382529775
Underrail only looks intimidating, frontloaded difficulty aside it's actually fairly approachable.
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>>382536384
I don't think there's a single bad portrait in PoE. Sagani's is kind of mediocre though
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>>382527659
>Also Poe thread
Nevermore!
>>
>>382544541
Is it possible you are in the wrong thread?

Also, qt.
>>
>>382547453
I like his short stories. He is much better at portraying suspense than for example Lovecraft or Smith.
>>
>dragon fight start
>suddenly spirits spawn behind my back
piss me off tbqhwyfam
>>
Are they making chanter decent for deadfire?

I want my man Kana to be useful this time around.
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>>382549027
Kana isn't coming back, dude.
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>>382549027
Chanters were ok but too passive
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>>382549725
Aw fuck.

Im trying to come into deadfire with as less info as possible but I thought all the companions were back.
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>>382550098
Nope, only Edér, Aloth and Pallegina.
Sorry, mate.
>>
Can i still do WM part 1 bounties if I start part 2?
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>>382550098
At least we'll have his sister
>>
>>382550294
Pretty sure so, yeah. A different NPC shows up with new bounties but the old one stays there.
>>
>>382550257
Fucking pallegina why no grieving momma
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>>382550718
Two of the factions will be Vailians, so Pallegina feels appropriate.
The hollow birth stuff is solved in the first game, so it wouldn't make much sense for Grieving Mother to still be a companion.
>>
>>382550346
Sounds like a huge improvement desu
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>>382530416
You know, until they revoked it.
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>>382550718
because she is sawyer's little birdie
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>>382532602
>Fig has nothing to do with Tim Schafer.
He's a cofounder and a member of their advisory board AKA he decides which game gets scheckels.

https://www.fig.co/about
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>>382549027
>Make chanter decent
Chanter is an extremely powerful class both in group and soloing.
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>>382550965
>advisory board
>not actually owner of anything
reaching/10
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>>382535491
They can't keep getting away with this!
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>>382550965
WTF I LOVE KOTICK NOW
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>>382550346
MAIA RUA IS CUTE... CUTE!
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>>382535491
They are ok. I suspect a large part is beign so used to the old ones.

Also Eder gaining rogue class certainly upped his smug levels
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>>382554171
Wasn't there some cool factoid about how he was supposed to be a Rogue in the first game before they went with Fighter? Maybe I just made that up.
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>>382527659
>Real Time With Pause
No
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>>382549027
Is Chanter bad? I played a Chanter Moon god for my first playthrough and the summoning spells were crazy useful but I haven't played since they added all the DLCs.
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>>382555874
Their absolute most broken stuff has been nerfed, but they're still pretty good.
>>
>>382554674
He started out as a fighter when he was still Russell Crowe as Edair. Then as he was changed to Max von Sydow as Edér, his class changed to rogue. Then somewhere down the line he was changed back to fighter.
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>>382535491
Honestly the first thing I'll probably do is look for a mod to change Eder, Aloth's and Pal's portraits back. These are kinda disgusting.
>>
Just got into PoE should I buy White March?
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I'm gonna miss Hiravius, but at least Sagni gets to return to her family instead of having to dick around on a boat
>>
>>382557563
If you're still into the game by the time you finish Act 2, then yeah, buy both parts.
>>
>>382557563
Try and get them on sale.
>>
>>382557754
>>382557854
Alright, guess I've got a coupel days to figure it out.
Is Cipher a fun class for the base game? Im vacillating between that and barbarian
>>
>>382557982
Yeah, both good choices.
>>
>>382527659
PotD was rad, fuck TCS and iron man / expert though, expert is way to annoying


first run a double arbalest + great sword (tidefury)bleakwalker aumana on normal and just run and gunned most stuff
I played on normal because I was unfamiliar with the stats / gameplay

2nd run was PoTD Thundercat druid, was a machine of pure death, most groups were ccd to hard to fight back

3rd was a melee wizard who I specced for pikes and placed behind 2 tankier melee, shadowflame and gg

killed all bosses on 2nd / 3rd run

I'm lookin forward to seeing how the multiclassin in PoE2 turns out and lore wise the setting is pretty hype. especially since poe seemed to mostly take place in the blander part of the world
>>
>>382529203
>Should I get Tyranny?
The magic system is iffy imo, you can do some interesting builds. the story references things you do a lot which is kinda cool, ending was a bit of a let down. The story is pretty hype at points. it feels a bit more linear though
pretty much lvl up lore and w/e else you do is ggez

just beware
>oh boy another bane dungeon
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>>382553150
How quick can I get guns? I wanna dark tower on some nerds
>>
>>382559335
what class to rp as a gilead gunslinger?
>>
>>382559335
If you're talking about the first game, then you can get one in the very first scene of the game. Good old Disappointer.
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>>382529203
I really liked Tyranny, it has some real flaws but overall its just a ton of fun
>>
>>382559231
>Hate both Disfavored and Nerat
>Love Tunon and Kryos
>Have to side with one of them or get labeled as a traitor
Why live?
>>
>>382533425
Agreed.
>>
>>382559231
>magic systems is iffy

its the best part of the game.
>>
>Obsidian literally retconned that Pale Elves have facial hair with a patch
lame ass shit
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>>382559539
Where? I missed it by a long shot

>>382559538
Cipher, stack focus with guns and then blast away with spells
>>
I grew up a console peasant, so I never played or got into isometric RPGs. Now I'm interested.

What's the best place for a newbie to start? I don't want to be overwhelmed by a million things to learn, but I don't want to be able to just spam the first move I learn to win.
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>>382560024
Tent on the lower left corner. You gotta crouch to trigger it cause it's a hidden item (or at least that's how it used to work, I heard they changed the system)
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>>382560024
you didn't miss much, as its name implies, it fucking sucks.
>>
>>382527659
>has been out for like 3 years now
>still $20

Yeah I'll go ahead and pirate that.
>>
>>382560105
Good to know mate, thanks
>>
>>382560073
Pillars of Eternity is actually a pretty good starter when it comes to RTwP

If you just mean all cRPGs in general, and you don't mind shoddy combat, you have Planescape Torment and Fallout 1 and 2
>>
>>382560073
I'd say Neverwinter Nights 2 or Dragon Age Origins.

From there you go backwards in time.
>>
>>382560193
Is it really that bad? Should I wait till later to get a gun?
>>
>spent all that time building a comfy keep
>it gets destroyed right out the gate
:c
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>>382560193
Just enchant it you goof.
>>
Someone can screencap the pet pig item description? Its probably one of the comfiest items in the game. Every time I read it I felt my heart warming up :c
>>
>>382560503
>>382560697
kys
>>
>>382560697
>"This young pig is roughly the size of a small dog. It half-trots, half-runs at your side in an effort to keep pace and snorts appreciatively when its flanks are scratched."

Is this the comfiest game out there?
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>>382560783
Go back to /b/ edgelord
>>
>>382560817
It probably is, I also love the random interactions Eder has with all of your pets
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>>382561032
based Edér
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>>382561248
Eder is the reason I still have hope left for humanity
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>>382560503
>Pillars of Eternity 3 starts
Magran rises and burns your boat to ashes
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>>382555985
Honestly, most of their stuff wasn't really hurt too much and being given faster chanting as they level was crazy good. Although even that was just a band-aid fix on the fact they weren't willing to sit down and figure out how chant speed should interact with stats. Having zero use for dex and no concern for heavy equipment burden is a big design issue.

I think their biggest problem is that far too much of their toolkit is simply shit, and the few that aren't are so good that they're basically forced to play in a very specific and always passive manner.
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Sure, because I wanna suffer through that shitty combat system for 100 hours.
>>
>>382562386
Give me games that have good combat mechanics on your opinion
>>
>level 7 druid spells
Really?
>>
>>382563070
Honestly, even Torment was more fun that PoE in terms of combat.
Having spells on cooldown is just retarded, as well as the camping system.
If they want to make it realtime, they should stick to the classic BG2 version. If they want some actually good combat they should copy a lot of stuff from Divinity.
>>
>>382563418
>Having spells on cooldown
What?
>>
>>382563418
Dammit you fucking retard, you could have said Aarklash Legacy, Jagged Alliance, Temple of Elemental Evil or Knights of the Chalice and you go with Torment? Fucking Torment?

Shit man, I'm angry at you.

And while we are at it PoE didn't have cooldowns. It had a mix of vancian casting and casting from "mana", but no cooldowns.

Get your facts straight. You have the right idea, but for the wrong reasons.
>>
>>382563418
They are copying some stuff from Divinity. As much as you can copy from a Turn Based game, anyways.
>>
>>382559231
The magic system in Tyranny is so over-rated. It makes sure every spell is generic shit.
>>
>>382535491

Aloth looks fucking kawaii with this new portrait.

I kinda like Pallegina having a frontal view of her face, but she doesn't look nearly as aquiline or distinguished as her PoE 1 portrait.
>>
So who all is going to multiclass in PoE2? I played a melee Cipher so I think I might go Cipher/Rogue depending on how multiclassing works. Melee Cipher is basically a Rogue without stealth anyway so it should synergize amazingly well.
>>
does poe 2 have a release date?
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>>382567594
Depends how it works
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>>382567594
My first play through will probably just have me going with my Cleric from the first game, especially since there haven't been any healer companions announced.
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>>382567741
Q1 2018 is what they said officially, but I expect at least one delay there.
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>>382568339
Xoti is a Priest/Monk
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>>382568339
>>
>>382527659
>calling it PoE

Just call it pillars ree nobody knows about your literally who games this isn't path of exile reeee
>>
>>382568961
They should have kept Project Eternity. It's not like Pillars of Eternity makes any sense in the game either, it's a fucking random title.
>>
>>382569156
Nah, they should have come up with a better name. Pillars of Eternity is kind of lame but Project Eternity would have sounded even worse.
>>
>>382535928

>implying it's /pol/ and not Reddit false flagging for (you)s like always

Is it really so far fetched? Who do you think makes all the retarded console war threads?
>>
>>382569753
I'm gonna go with Occam's Razor on this one.
>>
>>382570246
Occam's Razor here would be assuming that regular /v/ posters can hold political opinions, not infiltrators shitting the place up.
>>
>>382570246

Occam's Razor doesn't work when your "simplest explanation" has already been ruled out by contradictory evidence. I wish I had that screencap I see posted all the time of the guy who was shitposting about PCfags but accidentally posted the Sonybro image
>>
>>382570459
If it posts like a /pol/tard and acts like a /pol/tard, I'm gonna go ahead and think /pol/tard.

I'm not saying it's someone that came directly from /pol/ specifically to shit up /v/. I'm saying it's someone that browses both /pol/ and /v/ and thinks it's alright to carry over its shit from /pol/ when posting over here.
>>
>>382527659
I played on hard so I could autopilot through trash mobs.

>Anyone excited for PoE2?

maybe.
>>
>>382569569
Even worse than that would have been "Eternity" by itself
>>
>>382544541
WHO
IS IT PORN
>>
I'm sad i'm gonna lsoe my gear in the sequel, Steadfast on a Eothas priest was amazing RP and effect
>>
>>382573319
She's 14 years old
>>
>>382569156
I think it's called that because there are Adamantium pillars that are supporting the gods or omething like that. They weren't super important but I remember somebody mentioning that in passing.
>>
>>382574382
They're the Adra pillars that show up a ton in the dungeons. The green tinted rocks. Souls flow through them. It's where the cycle of death and rebirth comes from, and I believe you're right in that the gods also are somehow connected to them.
>>
>BRO TIER
Eder
Sagani

>INTERESTING CONCEPT BUT BORING AS SHIT TIER
Aloth

>REDDIT TIER
Kana
Hiravias

>CUT TO PIECES TIER
Grieving Milf

>MIGHT AS WELL BE THE MAIN CHARACTER TIER
Durance

>HAVE YET TO PLAY TIER
DLC
>>
>>382574978
Where's Pallegina, you heathen?
>>
>>382574978
also put pallegina with aloth
>>
>>382527659

I played some of the game on POTD, but all that reloading and retrying fights got old pretty quick.
>>
How are the various classes now? I played at launch and remember shit like Cipher just being superior in every way to a lot of the other classes.
>>
>>382574978
>God tier
Durance

>Bro tier
Edér

>Cool tier
Devil of Caroc
Grieving Mother
Hiravias
Pallegina
Sagani
Zahua

>Boring Tier
Aloth
Maneha

>Shit Tier
Kana
>>
>>382575310
Cipher got a bit nerfed but they're still pretty powerful
The classes overall are much more balanced now, Ranger is not complete shit anymore, lackluster classes like Paladin gained some power. Broken stuff got fixed.

I honestly think every class is respectable.
>>
>>382574978
>Husbando Tier
Eder

>Waifu Tier
Pallegina
Iselmyr

>Bro Tier
Hiravias
Kana
Sagani
Zahua


>Boring Tier
Aloth
Griefing Mom
Maneha

>Edge Tier
Devil
Durance

>Rest in Peace Tier
Calisca
Heodan
>>
>>382575512
Jesus christ, who's idea during development was it to have Rangers and their pets share a health bar?
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>>382574978
GODSLAYER TIER
Durance

GOD TIER
Zahua > Edér

GREAT TIER
Grieving Mother

GOOD TIER
Hiravias

OK TIER
Aloth

EH TIER
Pallegina

BORING TIER
Sagani > Maneha

ANNOYING TIER
Kana Rua

REALLY ANNOYING TIER
Devil of Caroc
>>
>>382534692

The icon they chose for the achievement should tell you why people don't have it.
>>
>>382575850
Probably Sawyer's. Sounds like of his wacky ideas that don't actually work in execution.
>>
>>382534692
Do you at least level up faster solo? I don't even understand how you'd begin to do that, PoE doesn't even let you zone out while in combat does it? I guess you could get some invisibility shit to cancel combat and wear down enemies that way but that seems crazy tedious.
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>played through as a Shield Bearer paladin
>used an entirely custom made party
>still talked with all the recruited companions and came to like them
>now a sequel is on the way with some of them

I may go Cipher with the prospect of multiclassing it in the next installment.

How is a Cipher best played? Melee or Ranged?
>>
>>382575192
People saying to play it on your first play through are meming, the harder difficulties are designed for min-maxers that know the encounters ahead of time.
>>
>>382576349
Ranged is objectively better but Melee is objectively cooler
>>
>>382576421
This. If guns were better late-game I'd probably prefer a ranged Cipher, but as it is I prefer duel sabers or stilettos as a melee Cipher.
>>
i wish two handed weapons automatically had aoe damage or at least cone damage. other than that i'm actually having a blast with my bleak walker paladin. when you get your flames of devotion leveled you just absolutely smite niggers
>>
>>382576569
I never ran a paladin myself. Is the blessing of the five suns or whatever exclusive to Pallegina? Because that shit was so fucking good. It would one shot most mobs.
>>
>>382576793
yes, pallegina only.
>>
>>382528904
Christ Almighty
Who gives a shit?
>>
>>382573361
At least we're still keeping some of the bonuses, apparently.
>>
>>382577735
Considering that out of the three founders Schaefer and Fargo both conduct things in a less than honest way, while Urquhart openly admitted that he agreed to the deal because he wants Pillars of Eternity: Skyrim Edition, I think there is plenty of reason for concern.
>>
>>382559730
Yeah, that option is apparently being added in with Bastard's Wound along with the rest of Act 3.
>>
>>382578474
Too little, too late
Also, the "rest" of the Act 3 is still before the cliffhanger end.
>>
are they adding new classes in dead fire? i wish there was real dodge type character. the monk is cool and all, it's just that i'm not really feeling the theme of it
>>
>>382580717
Nope. They're adding three subclasses to each class to specialize them further and multi-classing, but the base classes are all the same.
>>
>>382580717
>>382580847

here's hoping they add a wounds to armor conveersion or subclass for monks, going full plate on a monk just felt wrong
>>
>>382581460
>not filling your plate armor with glass shards to remain immersed
>>
Guise how do i pirate white march dlc if i already have base game on steam
>>
>>382581715
download a torrent, install and your old savegames should show up with no tinkering required
>>
>>382527659
I did path of the damned for my first playthrough. Spamming buff spells every fight was kind of annoying. I had a hard time with the adra dragon until I learned you could spam petrify on it and jerk off in the corner.
>>
>>382527659
I own PoE on Steam but never played it. Should I get the White March DLC during the sale? Was thinking about playing PoE soon but I got stuck at choosing my race/class (like always in these games)
>>
>>382582685
If you're still into the game by the time you finish Act 2, then yeah, buy both parts.
>>
>>382582104
Spells lacked pazzaz and enemies were too spongy.

>cast spell
>trashmob dazed for 6.6 seconds
>trashmob blinded for 2.1 seconds

ok great.
>>
>>382582685
don't give money to these scammers, they raised their game's prices just before summer sale hit
>>
>>382583343
then they dropped it back down
>>
>>382583343
Not in America
>>
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>>382583771
no, they'll reduce but only after the steam sale as ended, otherwise it's not possible. How sad for Paradox

http://steamcommunity.com/games/291650/announcements/detail/1342485237970402115

>Quick piece of clarification: per Mr. Wester's statement, Paradox cannot roll back prices until the Steam Summer Sale is over, because doing so would cause them to have to pull all their games off of the sale. Right after the Steam Summer Sale is over, Pillars pricing will be rolled back to original levels.
>>
>>382527659
PoE2 - No Durance No Hype.
>>
>>382584464
>Wanting all the old characters back
>Not wanting new good ones
>>
>>382584892
>All
no, but i would have Durance and Aloth over any other character any day
>>
>>382584892
>new good ones

See, I would be down with that. Alas...
>>
PoE is casual trash so no matter what difficulty you play you're still playing a shit game.
>>
>>382586226
>Implying you'd be able to beat it on Solo POTD
>>
>>382528904
Is Tim Schafer the guy that came up with fig, or is he just part of the developers that was contacted for it?
>>
>>382583229
While I'm not as severe I felt the same about the hp bloat, it makes single target damaging spells pretty much useless
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>>382527659
Oh great. Another western shit.
>>
>>382589735
>Not liking both WRPGs and JRPGs
Pleb
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