>good guy is objectively the most evil thing in abrahamic

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>>382501335
>implying god isn't evil

>>382501335
isn't this the game with dante in it?

>>382501502
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series

>>382501502
or raido kuzonoha xiv

>>382501806
I'm really starting to get the impression Raidou is a pushover.

SMT IV

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>>382501335
>bad guy is abrahamic concept of God
I don't think this is correct in that game. Satan does help you out I guess.

>>382502934
>>382502934
even smt iv doesnt have killing time itself and the entire known universe ceasing to exist as you prepare to fight god as its good ending

>>382503326
Lucifer and Satan are different things, the accepted "Good" ending was to spite God in some way, and ultimate good ending was to battle with him with Lucifer as your ally

>>382501335
If Lucifer is so evil and God is supposed to be all-knowing and all-seeing why the fuck did God make him in the first place?

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>>382503349
But you do all of that and create a new universe where you are god in it's sequel though.

>>382503613
i was thinking just smtiv and not smtiva

>>382503427
I mean sure, you can become one of Lucifer's generals and go to fight YHVH, but it's about as canon as any other ending really. Plus YHVH is pretty irrelevant besides Lucifer's hateboner for him.

>>382503487
*t-tips fedora*

>>382503807
But I'm actually asking.

>>382503427
>freedom ending is Good
>true demon ending is Good

Bunch of edgy wishy washy fucks who couldn't side with a reason

/shijima/

>>382503752
TDE is considered the canon ending for Nocturne

Also aren't you going to fight The Great Will not YHVH at the end

>>382503839
No you're supposed to disappear after I do that

*t-t-tips f-fedora*

>>382503854
>/shijima/
>being such a manchild you literally create a world where nobody has personal freedom

>>382503854
>shijima
What was the world of stillnes Hikaea tried to create, what happens im that world?
Also what is the point if Yosuga isn't the vortex world pretty much a world of strength already.
Also what is a reason exactly, why did Isamu and Chiaki get a reason and who thought of the name for that reason?
Why couldn't sensei get a reason is it just something that comes to you?

>>382503928
Is the great will the same as the axiom?

>>382502765
He's objectively better than Dante in regards to skills, considering Eternal Raidou gives him pierce.

>>382504221
>Why couldn't sensei get a reason

Sponsored by a fake god that had no power. Isamu, Chiaki and Hikawa all had gods backing their reason.

>>382504221
>>382504221
>World of stillness
basically Nirvana
>what point of yosuga isnt vortex world
Basically yes, but instead of busted ass demons its slightly more fair with humans/whatever the equivalent is
>what is reason
They basically work like a persona thing its the mask born from the strength to face ones flaws or something like that, you feel strongly about how the world should be and you have a very good idea on how to enact that
>why sensei no reason
because instead of confrontation she ran away from everything and depended on her deity to give her a reason, she had an idea of freedom but had no idea what a world of freedom looked like
>>382504473
you can have a reason but no god

>>382504473
Oh so Baal, Noah and Ahriman gave hikawa and co a reason?

>>382504647
>>382504647
No they supported their reason

>>382504535
>you feel strongly about how the world should be and you have a very good idea on how to enact that
I get that, but who created those reasons the Hikawa and co themselves.
Doesn't the reason predate the human themselves?
That is why they already have a name like musubi/Yosuga/Shijima right?

>>382505123
>>382504535
>>382504908
You know nevermind thanks, for some reason I had the idea that the reasons the humans had were a thing before the humans actually came up with them.
Everuthing makes a lot more sense now.

>>382501502
fool, dante is in every game, you just have to spot him.

>>382501335
>SMT
>good and evil

>>382503928
He didn't play DDS, didn't get a world of strength.
Not only that but both factions are considered bad in SMT universe, even demons and their "freedom".