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How will they tie the P3 and P4 casts to this? They are basically

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How will they tie the P3 and P4 casts to this? They are basically a bunch of old fucks by now.
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The same way they tied in dungeon design and dialogue in 5: they simply didn't.
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>>382492893
I hope they won't
Persona 5 is perfect as it is
I was fine with them spitting 100+ Persona 4 spinoffs: the cast wasn't that good and their development was ruined by the game itself anyway
I wasn't fine with P3 characters being in them though, at all

P5 is great and left a good feeling on me, I'm satisfied with the end and don't need to see more, not in the metaverse anyway, i guess some bonus on the characters daily lives wouldn't be bad
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>>382492893
Mid/late 20s is old?
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>>382492893
forget that shit. They didn't even give p5 a good conclusion.

>everyone forgot about the phantom thieves in the end
>kamoshida and all the other victims are still braindead flaps
>society ultimately remains unchanged except shido loses grip and now PT loses their power and influence

I feel like there was a bigger statement they failed to tackle that couldn't purely be solved by killing yabada
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>>382493504

By anime standards yes
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>>382492893
The P3 case are still in their 20s right?
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Supposedly P5 is set in 2012 due to someone working out the calendar
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>>382493683
I was suspecting you didn't get the good ending until the last statement
You don't remember many parts of it evidently anyway

Also, Persona has always been like that: under the lighthearted exterior there is a truth the characters choose to ignore or fight against, not really winning in the end
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>>382493808
P4 starts in 2011. Rise is 20 by the time P5 happens, so it's set in 2016
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>>382492893
>Koromaru is probably dead
>Rise is probably a washed up ex-idol Christmas Cake with a gaping vagina and a severe drinking problem
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>>382495156
You seem to have a lot of pent up anger at Rise. Did she kill your family or something. I hate Rise too, but I wouldn't go this far
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>there's a solid chance Kawakami was in High School during P3

Damn.
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>he thinks persona time in-game correlates to real life time
P3's protag dies the year P4's protag start's school in inaba. And judging by the P5 rise poster, she barely aged so it's most likely 2 years after at most.
In short, P3-P5 take place in the span of around 4 years.
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>>382495156
You can see Rise posters in the subway station/station square, though. I somehow doubt a washed up idol would have that kind of advertisement coverage in Tokyo.
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>>382497014
PQ confirms there is a 5 or so year gap between 3 and 4. The characters have a good bit of dialogue about it.
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>>382497854
I knew someone would bring that up. And my rebuttal is

Fuck you
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>>382497983
Well there is also the phones. In P4 everyone is sing crappy flip phones. In P5 they have pretty sophisticated touch phones. There is obviously a few years between the two.
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>>382492893
Persona Q 2: Time/Space Boogaloo
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>>382497854
>>382498229
You see Chihiro in P4 though. She's a third year in P4, and she was a second year in P3. Hmmmm.
I don't know about the phones though so maybe P5 really does take place much later. But what I do know is that PQ isn't fucking cannon and I don't give a shit what atlus says. Same for DAN
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>>382498491
Well, then suck it up, because it is.
Your opinion about them won't change the fact.
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>>382498491
>ending completely invalidates whether or not its canon

why even care
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>>382496224
She would have been 17-18 during the events of p3
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Persona 5's spinoffs should just be based on P5 characters like Akechi
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>>382492893
They are going to pull some bullshit about why kanji still looks like a delinquent despite him not caring about how people view him anymore. Like they did in all the other spin offs.
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>>382499601
>atlus making a spin-off that isn't pandering fanservice
P5: Dancing All Night take it or leave it
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>>382492893
Persona 4 cast is still in their early 20s, they were like around the same age as me in 2011 and this game takes place in 2016.
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>arguing about character age in a series with dates

How is this an issue?
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>>382499886
>Implying it wouldnt be great with the already made outfits
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>>382500546
Persona 5 doesn't technically have dates but everything lines up with 2016. They could retcon that though. Why these retards are arguing about the time bewteen P3 and P4 when the games directly state that they take place in 2009 and 2011 I don't know.
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>
>recommended p4 as my first in the series
>play it and replay it immediately after beating it
>go straight to p3, finish it off
>now starting on getting through the p4 anime and p3 movies
>no ps3 or ps4 for p5

I've made a huge mistake. Why does this series have to be so good?
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>>382501249
cause waifu
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>>382501249
There's no turning back. One of us.
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>>382501467
Gross girl, gross picture and gross response.

I feel disgusted.
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>>382501614
>Gross girl,
you are damn right
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all right which p4 girl age the worst in p5 timeline
rise is already exempt due to her cameo appearance
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>>382501467
You're right, I wouldn't like the social aspect of the game as much if there weren't any cute girls to date.
>>382501508
I'm really worried once I get to play P5, i'm going to have nothing to fill this void for years.
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>>382502251
we all know who
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>>382497854
sssshhh PQ's not canon
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>>382502446
>cute girls to date.
>cute

are you sure they are cute?
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>>382499886
I read your whole reply as the title. Take It or Leave It would be a fitting subtitle for the phantom thieves.
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>>382497854
>P3 is in 2009
>P4 is 2011
>5 year gap
???
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>>382497854
>5 year gap
dont you mean
>5 year fat
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I just wanted to say that Fuuka is still the best girl two games later.
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>>382492893
The real question will be if P5A keeps all the old characters. They wouldn't just get rid of them all would they?
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>>382502251
Based on the Golden epilogue, Yukiko changed her style and she already looks like a bland 30 year old housewife. She will only go downhill from here on out.
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>>382501249
I've never played a Persona game before 5, but I was always aware of the series via Persona 3 and 4 because of friends were into it.

Finally beat P5 today and now I'm an empty man because the ride is finally over.

P5A when? I want to main Makoto, Yusuke, and Joker
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>>382506415
Even if Makoto is a charge character?
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>>382507031
I've played years of Street Fighter, I'll manage
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>>382492893
>Old
You do realize Rise is still an idol and they lose their value once they hit their mid-20s.
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>>382502251
Well technically Yukiko is still hot since the TV series even mentions the Amagi Inn and how the hot daughter proprietress.
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This was my first persona game, I'm about 40 hours in now.

I honestly can't deal with how stupid these characters are. they constantly ask shit that should be common sense by now. I don't thin there's been an option to say something that would actually be logical to say in any given situations. fucking jap writing, fried brains from nukes
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>>382506415
I want it just for this fight.
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>>382492893
Persona Q2 could actually have an interesting setup, with a Investigation Team v. Phantom Theives conflict having potential to be interesting, seeing as how the IT are moralfags and the PTs are criminals, but even if that does happen, it's likely that's noy what they're gonna do.
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>>382507613
You do realize your teammates are actually the dumbest educationwise in the whole school?
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>>382507613
>Dumb Faggot is now rank 5 knowledge
>Dumb Faggot gets every answer correct in class
>Dumb Faggot gets every answer correct on exams
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>>382502601
>>382503274
If you're gonna post some fat chicks, at least do it right. These are fucking terrible.
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>>382507827
Ryuji vs Morgana is a 10-0 match up
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>>382508372
Are you American? Is this what happens when everyone in your country becomes obese?
Your brain develops a fetish so your dick can still function?
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>>382507838

The Phantom Thieves would end up just being "fed" to the Investigation Team, just like what happened with the Arena games. SEES got nerfed to shit, IT gets so buffed that its main fucking navigator becomes a fighter.

>Teddie learns how to turn into a tank to make Morgana jealous.
>Yosuke becomes art prodigy to outdo/piss off Yusoke.
>Chie's kung fu DVD > Makoto's actual training.
>Ann worships the ground Rise stands on.
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>>382493683
Yalda is just a false god who thinks he's higher than anyone.

The real antagonist of P5 is Nyarlathotep. Just wait until him start up shit like causing riot and anarchy in the hearts of humanity because he think that exactly what they want : freedom.
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>>382509606
>thinks he's higher than anyone
>cognition world is based on perception
Whoa, really makes me think
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>>382509606

Nyarly will never come back. They scrapped Philemon as well with 5.
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>>382510639

Philemon is the butterfly who gives you Lavenza's message.
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>>382510639
They didn't scrap him for fuck's sake he's just not around. The blue butterflies were the velvet attendants from 3-5.
Philemon is a gold butterfly.
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>>382510639
The butterfly isn't Lavenza
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>>382510639
Wrong.
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>>382493345
Lmao, I have some bad news. They are going to milk the shit out of P5. And all the spinoffs are canon
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Ok I have an idea and it's awful and o don't give a fuck.
>we get the fake igor.
>his death triggers the sub floor of the lowest metaverse floor available to mc.
>there he finds an amulet
>he goes back in time because fuck it why not.
>OR SO HE THINKS
>THE amulets power was reality manipulation
>he merges different timelines into 1
>p5 arena happens
>in an alt universe dance max is happening at the same time
>THE end is every body using each other's strengths and social links to defeat ????????
Roll credits
And there was never another raidou game to ever exist and I commit suicide somewhere down the line. What do you guys think.
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>>382511709

Don't all the Persona games, including spin-offs, already occur in the same timeline/universe/whatever?
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>>382511876
Yes but the amulet reverts everyone into their prime fighting form instead of p5 linear timeline.
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>>382497014
>P3 protag dies
i wonder what word could be behind this spoiler. this spoiler you bothered making for a game that is almost 11 years old.
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>>382498229
P4 just has old phones because atlus didn't predict smartphone popularity in 2008.
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>>382512285
Wrong flip phones in Japan are more active than touch screens.
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>>382512285
I just assumed it was because everyone was a bunch of hicks that were behind the times and that P4MC didn't get an opportunity to switch.
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>>382501057
it seems stupid they blanked out the year in P5 when they've already released games that take place before their release (P4U2)
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>>382512457
Because it's supposed to be a secret. Then they drop hints that Rise is still a really popular idol, the bitch from DAN is also still really popular, the Amagi Inn is still being run by Yukiko and she's still considered their hot daughter.
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>>382513178
so they've scrapped exact dates so they can keep making new casts that are the same age as the P4 cast?
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>>382513356
Probably. It made them realized that no one in Japan really gave a shit about SEES since aging them up just showed you how godawful and terrible the Investigation Team's members really are.
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>>382513454
>they kept everyone the same age so they can reuse all the existing sprites when arcsys makes P5U
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>>382513856
Maybe SEGA decided to be stingy assholes for the side games?
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>>382513454
>Implying P3 will ever be in another spinoff
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>>382513929
of course they will be, they need to keep dangling elizabeth's journey to save blue jesus in our face like car keys
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>>382513997
Elizabeth might be in it again. While she accomplishes nothing. She should go try to bring Philemon back or something
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So what do you thin P6 will be about? I've always wanted them to rip off Flatliners. Med students in college playing God and as punishment for their hubris are forced to atone.
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>>382515140
Nope high school.
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>>382515490
Obviously the two ideas must be combined and its a high school teaching college level medical courses.
Because reasons.
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>mfw people tell me that P5 is game of the year when it was the worst persona game thus far
Are people this easily tricked by aesthetics and decent music?

Speaking of music, I wanted to claw out my ears by the end every time I heard "I'm a shapshifter, at poes masquerade"
Fucking too repetitive
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>>382511327
That was obviously lavenza
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>>382515598
Don't blame me, blame the society for having fine taste.
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>>382515140
>Med students
>when the entire point of Personas in the status of psyche/mental health
I want it to be where you're a mental health patient who only is allowed to go to classes because it's affiliated with the institution you're in.
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>>382516348
I mean, dude, have you seen Flatliners? its about arrogant wannabe doctors killing themselves to dive deeper and deeper into the afterlife and are then confronted by their deep seated issues/secrets. Wouldnt take much to turn it into a persona game.
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>>382515598
>Speaking of music, I wanted to claw out my ears by the end every time I heard "I'm a shapshifter, at poes masquerade"

Agreed. I think the P5 soundtrack is the strongest overall and Rivers In The Desert beats any other final boss theme, but the overworld theme took a severe dip when the vocals came in. That song sucks dick especially by the standards set by P3, wherein every overworld track is the best.
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>>382516630
Isn't that just a matter of taste though?
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>>382516630
Its not better than Battle for Everyone's Souls.
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>>382516204
The bottom butterfly wasn't Lavenza. The top one is.
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>>382516952
This. I get not liking the soundtrack but shitting on it is just like blogging on facebook.
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>>382516630
Naah fuck you I liked it.
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>>382516961
Battle for Everyone's Souls is pretty overrated actually. Music actually suck dick.
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>>382516961
Battle for Everyone's Souls is pretty fucking good, I'll give you that. But it's out of place in a soundtrack that's infused with hip-hop, and in the hindsight that it isn't the last battle of the Persona franchise like it was built up to be.
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>>382516961
I liked The Almighty more than Battle for Everyone's Souls.
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>>382499601
I would enjoy a detective game with akechi as the protagonist
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>>382516952
Pretty much. This is /v/ though, if I don't like it, it's shit.
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>>382517372
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Leave little joker to me.

And his girls too.
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>>382516249
I think you rotted your brain by playing low tier stuff like Neptunia too long. The fucking plot is a mess and the gameplay out of the metaverse is a fucking mess. Even Persona 4 had better pacing and didn't railroad you as hard.
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>>382493345
>Hating the investigation team
They're way more likable than Sees
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>>382517717
The IT has Yosuke and Teddie, that makes them instant shit
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>>382517613
>Neptunia
What?

>Even Persona 4 had better pacing and didn't railroad you as hard.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>382517790
SEES has ken which makes them automatically shit
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>>382517576
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>>382517790
Nah. P3fags are just salty it was 4 that mainstreamed the franchise and not their precious emo-kun
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>>382516204
No that one was Philemon. If it was Lavenza she would have said something.
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>>382517909
SEES shit characters
>Ken
IT shit characters
>Chie
>Yosuke
>Teddie
I think we have a winner here folks.
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>>382517971
>mainstreamed
You do realize that P4 is only the way it is because of P3's popularity right?
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>>382517948
Don't be jealous Chad isn't a manlet.
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>>382518015
>>382517971
>>382517909
>>382517790
>>382517717
>>382493345
You fags realize this character wars shit is all subjective right?
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>>382518015
>fuuka
>doggo
>Ken

Teddie makes a hot trap
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>>382518130
Welcome to /v/, the board where the facts are made up and reality doesnt matter.
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>>382518175
>talking shit about koro
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>>382517796
>Mona literally stops you from doing anything most nights because a story event is coming up
>there is no penelty for avoiding slinks
>the tutorial doesn't even stop til 20 hours in
>game literally loses all traction after you get Futaba where motivations and goals become a bit warped and blurred
>bunch of fucking plot holes just left there to be

Persona 5 was so disappointing
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>>382500832
His outfit was way too good to be only in 1 dungeon.
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>>382492893
>old fucks
At most, they're like 30.
I see nothing wrong with them being anywhere from 17-30, especially for a fightan spinoff, and if a JPRG spinoff crossover is what you need, just do Q2 and come up with some contrivance that brings them all together with time shenanigans.

Like, maybe right during when P3/4 cast leave the Q world, it turns out they were actually shunted into Q2 with the P5 cast and Q's epilogue is what happened actually when Q2 ended, not Q. After all, since they lose their memories, it's not like it matters.

Q2:
>I dunno Futaba has like a phone backup with the metaverse app or whatever because she's a nerd; I'm creatively bankrupt
>she stumbles upon Door's old Evoker for some reason and trips, firing the Evoker at her phone with the defunct app running while simultaneously ramming into a TV in comical fashion, sandwiching the Evoker, phone, and gun together
>P L O T happens
>Q2 world is cognitive Tokyo but not as psycho
>only one route, which is the P5 route, but there's a 6-man party this time with no leader restriction (just that you have one of the protags in your party)
>Retread of Q's first boss where P3/4 cast show up to roflstomp your enemy
>A flashback at some point showing how when 3/4 cast showed up in cognitive Tokyo, they freaked the fuck out, but quickly did cool shit in the background where you didn't notice
>no OC this time; it's just Nyx and Yaldy making an Izanami sandwich and generally being evil cunts
>miniaturized social link system, but with proper scenes this time
>maybe a matchmaking system where you pair people up for friendship/romance (you can't romance everyone, obviously); everyone knows they'll lose the memories anyway, so they're willing to cut loose a bit.
>NG+ genderswap, all-guys/yaoi, and
all-girls/yuri modes, just because this is a pipedream anyway, with quality dialogue for each (just want FemC back, man)
>Magic isn't shit
>Characters aren't flanderized to hell
>no fucking Persona limit
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>>382518506
>>NG+ genderswap, all-guys/yaoi, and
>all-girls/yuri modes, just because this is a pipedream anyway, with quality dialogue for each (just want FemC back, man)
Had me until then, FeMC is the worst thing to happen to persona, and should never come back in any form
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>>382518348
Mona cares about your health.
>there is no penelty for avoiding slinks
Also no benefit for you if you avoid slinks
>the tutorial doesn't even stop til 20 hours in
Every persona since 3
>game literally loses all traction after you get Futaba where motivations and goals become a bit warped and blurred
subjective
>bunch of fucking plot holes just left there to be
stop speedreading

Your complain are so disappointing.
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>spend time with Futaba
>play video games with her
>read PC magazines with her
>her reaction when you tell her you want to build a PC
>get all her +3 dialogue choices first try because I know how to speak neet
>romance her
>actually felt sad when the protag had to say goodbye
>that horrible feeling that she isn't real
>game's over and I feel empty
So this is what having a waifu is like
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>>382518348
>20 hours for the tutorial
It's not even that fucking long unless you save scum cause you're a retarded piece of shit.
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>>382518348
>>Mona literally stops you from doing anything most nights because a story event is coming up
You mean what happens in Persona 4 as well, except in there its the protag saying he has to sleep instead of having another character do it
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>>382518616
>stop speed reading
Wanna explain to me why Joker went to the coffee shop after getting out of jouvie instead of being picked up by his parents?

Wanna explain how fuckboi never noticed he killed a cognitive Joker when clearly he was still inside the casino when he left?

Wanna explain how Futabas mothers research just kinda dropped off and was never explained?

Wanna explain how Igor got captured in the first place?
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>>382518801
>except in there its the protag saying he has to sleep instead of having another character do it
Wrong, unknown entity tell him to go sleep.
"you feel tired"
"go to sleep? yes no"

They didn't even explain that unknown entity. Literal plot holes right there and no one complain about it.
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Shit SEES members:
>Yukari
>Ken

Shit IT members:
>Yosuke
>Teddie
>Chie
>Yukiko

Shit PT members:
>Morgana
>Ryuji
Akechi

Discuss.
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>>382518596
what makes you say that

Best battle theme of P3, better design than Door, and better personality, too.
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>>382518921
Wrong. Every single one of them in every game has their own qualities and people should be allowed to like who they like
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>>382518921
Ryuji wasnt that bad. He just needed to calm the fuck down.
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>>382518940
That's all subjective, you know? I hated every single thing about FeMC and I'm glad she's never coming back
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>>382518842
Because the game literally explains he's on probation and they wanted them out of his hair since they had to pay out on a lawsuit they couldn't afford? Because fuckboi didn't know how Palaces disappear when you steal their treasure since all he did was kill their Shadow self? And Igor isn't omnipotent, since he was apparently making a deal with a "god" like how Philemon did with Nyarly.
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>>382518842
>Wanna explain how Igor got captured in the first place?
Do you seriously need a detailed explanation on how a being know as the "god of control" managed to capture and imprison someone else.

Are you so inept, or cynical that you needed a cutscene that shows him actually doing it before you "oh that makes sense"

Holy shit man.
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>>382518842
>Wanna explain to me why Joker went to the coffee shop after getting out of jouvie instead of being picked up by his parents?
Because sojiro picked him up first. Parents already implied not cared about their own son anymore since the first game.

>Wanna explain how fuckboi never noticed he killed a cognitive Joker when clearly he was still inside the casino when he left?
Not in casino, on underground basement which is outside casion. Which doesn't trigger thief costume.
This is explained in the game stop speedreading fag.

>Wanna explain how Futabas mothers research just kinda dropped off and was never explained?
They're still high school why would they care about that shit in detail. If they know enough to understand it, there's no need to pursue it any longer.

>Wanna explain how Igor got captured in the first place?
Yalda just a stronger being than Igor, that's all.

Speedreading faggot confirmed.
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>>382519037
sure, but I'm not so sure why you would go as far as to hate her. There are plenty more things that happened to the series that are worse than her, like Marie.
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>>382518909
>you feel tired
>unknown entity
This is bait. No one can be this stupid
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>>382519149
I prefer Marie over here, because I think 4G is the better game than P3P
But FES is on the same level as Golden for me
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>>382519161
You can't prove I'm wrong faggot. It's literally in game.
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>>382518940
>Best battle theme of P3
Yeah, that's why Wiping All Out is more popular than destruction and is referenced more than it... oh wait
>better design than Door
She was literally just a hair style away from being a generic npc
>and better personality, too
Oh boy another genki character, it's not like we've already had three of those before
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>>382518842
>still inside the casino when he left?
That's completely wrong. The interrogation room wasn't in the casino, it was in the police station. There's a scene before they enter casino where they're in cognition yet not in their costumes yet and they see the police station

The characters literally comment on how they can see the police station outside the casino while in cognition. The whole conversation might as well have been highlighted.

Did you miss the pancake comment as well?
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>>382519161
>yfw its Phily
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>>382519347
>popularity = quality
Also, it's less popular because it's a PSP-only thing, fag.
>look of a generic npc
So are Door, Yu, and Joker. None of the 3/4/5 protags stand out. What are you on?

And I'd rather have Genki than Loner McJerkcunt
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>>382492893
Did you miss the Rise poster?
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>>382519636
Destruction is objectively better, and At least the protags of 3, 4 and 5 have distinct physical qualities rather than just a brown haired cunt. Door-kun being a loner kinda more fits with the themes of 3. FeMC would be better suited as a side character in 4, where the tone is more cheerful
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>whole team was around level 80 at the end of the game
>didn't even grind during the game at all
My only complaint is that this was much easier than the other Persona games
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>>382519636
>it's less popular because it's a PSP-only thing, fag
If its as good as you think then that shouldn't reall matter than fag
>none of the 3/4/5 protags stand out
They do though. They're uniforms have variations to them, they're body language is unique, and don't have generic brown hair.
>I'd rather have Genki than Loner McJerkcunt
At least there was more to Loner McJeekcunt's character then just emo and it fit the themes of P3 more than that cunt could
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>>382518110
You can break both his legs with one low kick
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>>382517378
Why? He's a shit detective
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>>382522860
Joker is just baby
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>>382495156
>>382497318
Eh, Namie Amuro still earns money in Japan.
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>>382495156
>Being this mad over a fictional girl
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>>382492893
Who cares about logic just let them all be high school girls/young adult girls and be done with it.
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>>382496224
PREQUEL/SPINOFF WHEN
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>>382524620
Not sure why you're bringing Joker here but this baby is more alpha than Yu
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>>382515140
Persona 6
>Color : Green
>Arcana : Moon
>Core theme : Dream, Bliss, Fantasy, Illusion, Nightmare, Despair
>Initial Persona : Fairy Tale characters
>Ultimate Persona : Deities of knowledge, wisdom, enlightenment, and craftsmanship
>Main location : Small village network in the deep mountains, complete opposite of P5's urban Tokyo, far more rural than P4's Inaba
>Other World name : Dreamscape
>Persona summoning : Book or script
>VR Room : Massive library with fireplace
>VR Attendant : Librarian woman in her 40's named Agatha
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>>382501249
Same thing here but fear not, PS3 emulation is cumming!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wByiG4vlRtA
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>>382492893
>TFW I realize Kawakami and Sae are younger than most of SEES

That's a really weird thing to wrap my head around, because I experienced and knew the characters from SEES as teenagers and knew the characters of Sensei and Sae as adults, but it's the reverse relationship of ages
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