I feel like this doesn't affect me because I'm not

Like shootin fish in a barrel.

>>382450069
I want to touch their feet.

except women want to play as sexy women too

Here's a crazy idea. If you don't like something, don't buy it.

>>382450069
>"MEDIA IS HYPERSEXUALIZED"

Ok so what. This "researcher" acts like this is an inherently bad thing. I like looking at big tits, better jail me.

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>>382450069
>male gaze

>>382450069
Meanwhile, you log on WoW, and EVERY chick is playing a blood elf, because it's the only character that looks sexy in the horde.

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>>382450587
I like looking at bigger tits too.

But it seems half of the perma virgin gamers on the internet wants to argue that sexualization actually doesnt exist and that it's "logical" that so many of these female characters look like barbie dolls

>>382450605
YOU BOYS BETTER STOP ENJOYING THINGS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm straight, and I like looking at attractive characters, women in particular. Video games is not the only medium where women are made to be good looking. Movies, literature, paintings and photos all exist as well. People celebrate and promote good looking bodies for a reason, since Antiquity. Feminists need to neck themselves.

>>382450697
>half of the perma virgin gamers on the internet wants to argue that sexualization actually doesnt exist and that it's "logical" that so many of these female characters look like barbie dolls
I have never seen this argument nor seen anyone vaguely defend this position ever in all my times discussing this on the internet.

>>382450069
>NOOOOOOOO STOP LOOKING AT BETTER LOOKING WOMYN FUCKING UNREALISTIC STANDARDS

>>382450069
Men are the general population that buy games. Developers will cater to men. Men like sexy women. Therefore developers create sexy women for Men.

And to be honest I don't think anyone would want to play as someone ugly. I can't even think of an ugly male character.

>>382450884
inb4 someone brings up mobile gaming and women demographics like they matter.

>>382450069
Can't we just toss her a bunch of JRPG characters that cater toward girls? Like cloud, all tales of characters

I don't give a shit, why would I give a shit? I still play all pervy games I want without issue.

I'm still salty about Xtreme 3 being sony exclusive but given how its the only DOA platform that isn't dead I don't blame them.

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>>382450069
..You could do this study on any form of visual media. She really thinks George Clooney gets cast for his roles in movie and his look has nothing to do with it? You really think pic related happens in movies for no reason?

News Alert: People like looking at sexy people, deal w/ it ugly fat feminist freak.

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Marxists and their Jewish overlords need to be be thrown form a helicopter, that's what I think.
Why don't then spend grant money on something that actually matters? "Men find the female form sexually attractive" I'll take my check now please, and then complain about the horrors of capitalism.

>>382450069
>unrealistic
lmao

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>>382450069
>hypersexualization
>bad
He Man was my nigga

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>>382450069
It's another useless study. Women and men are both exaggerated, and on top of that, it's fantasy so who gives a shit?

Women hate and resent each other so much that they even try to snipe the fantasy ones

>>382450069
I think that all depictions of women in media should be sexually attractive or cute unless them not being attractive is an important part of the narrative.

Being unattractive as a fictional character has 0 benefits. It's like saying "I made this game shit on purpose"

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>>382450069
>half the audience is female

No it's not. Women play phone and browser games. Men are the ones buying consoles and video cards. You don't see me whining that Candy Crush doesn't have zombies and strippers in it.

>>382451845
western womyn*
japanesu women are based

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>>382450697
Fuck off, that's a strawman. The argument is that sexualization is irrelevant and not some issue that needs grandstanding. It's fine, and has existed for all of human history. Sex sells. And there is nothing wrong with a male finding the female form sexually attractive it's the entire reason the species continues to exist.
And you can't complain about men sexualizing women, then go to a fag parade to celebrate gay pride and walk around in pubilc in BDSM gear with your dick hanging out. Wither all of it's or, or none of it is. If they can be proud of their degeneracy, I can be proud of mine.

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>>382450069
>over-enlarged breasts or hips and unrealistically narrow waists

Graphics were just bad back then. It was the best they could do.

>>382450069
what about movies/tv/music/etc?

>>382450069
>if we only stopped sexualization and problematic content, game sales would almost double!

On par with thinking every pirated copy of a game is a lost sale.

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>>382450884
>I can't even think of an ugly male character.

This article is literally a year old

>>382450069
>Study finds that people want to play as cool and sexy people instead of boring and fat ones in their videogames
>"If the woman is attractive, it's obvious the developers were sexist and hate all women"

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>Females totally aren't sexualized in games!

Riiiiight.

>>382452426
so? it still applies today

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>>382450884
> I can't even think of an ugly male character.

Wario immediately comes to mind. I'd agree that he's the exception and not the norm, however.

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>>382450069
>I'm not straight
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH, EAT A DICK, FAGGOT

>>382452062
>comparing liking pixel tits to gay parade raising awareness for basic human rights

How dumb are you

And yes, pride parades are gross. But it's not just about being gross, I hope you're old enough to understand that

>>382450069
No one cares about your mental illness faggot

>>382450697
It's not that it doesn't happen, it's that it doesn't matter. People want to blame their daughters' sexualization on the media when they can easily teach them what real life is like and to not give a shit about the media compared to real life.

I play sports games. Lots of people play sports games. Lots of people blow out their CPU opponents in these games by astronomical amounts and routinely win perfect seasons back-to-back-to-back-to-back ad nauseum. This does not lead sports fans to expect astronomical scores and lopsided records from their real-life sports leagues, mostly because people know better. Maybe if these games were people's first experience with sports, but certainly not otherwise.

Simply put, everyone needs a giant dose of reality. People seem to forget that real life came before fiction, and that fiction by design is unlike real life, and that fiction is just ENTERTAINMENT. Stop trying to desperately tie other people's musings into your own idealizations of the world, and actually look at the world around you. That's what matters, not giant vidya tits.

>>382452251
The funny thing is, they actually decrease.
It didn't work at all for marvel. The CEOs will pull the plug as soon as they start loosing money, and the decline is already beginning. Watchdogs 2, the game about a brave independent black hacker man, and his team of ethic minorities, took an not Donald Trump, flopped horribly. And they will continue to do so for the next few years until all the CEOs realize that no one is going to buy this garbage, then no one will ever listen to these people ever again.

>>382452819
>This does not lead sports fans to expect astronomical scores and lopsided records from their real-life sports leagues, mostly because people know better

It does lead to young men literally chimping out every time the word "feminism" is uttered.

>>382452552
Anybody with the full picture of this? Can't find it on Google Images

>>382452552
this is fake retard

>>382452552
Post more promotional material

>>382453021
It turns people away from a cancerous ideology? That's fucking great then

>>382453021
Probably because whenever feminism is brought up in these discussions it's referring to the bastardized modern bullshit that has little to do with actual feminism.

>>382450069
>hypersexualization,
>make up a word and use it specifically to punish men and attractive women

into the trash it goes

thanks "womens studies" for keeping women out of serious fields, I appreciate having all the fat cunts segregated where I don't have to interact with them

>>382452779
I fight for the rights of faggots to not be oppressed because of their sexuality, then turn around and use my power and influence to suppress straight men for THEIR sexuality.
How dare you point of the hypocrisy of my position?
And yes, I am very aware for what this all is really about (((Mr. Bernstein))). And no, i'm not reading Karl Marx again.

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>>382450069
>I'm not straight
stop being gay

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>>382450069
>Women just ARENT attractive in real life
>REAL WOMEN dont have narrow waists or large hips!
>its all MALE fantasy! Real women are fat and ugly!

Hmmmmmm

What's wrong with sexualization?

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>>382450069
>I feel like this doesn't affect me because I'm not straight
just look at these curves in pic related
that france is thicc as fug while still pulling off that thin waistline

Who else France waifu?

>>382453942
It opresses me, you shitlord.

>>382453942
Ugly twats can't identify themselves as beautiful, charming, sexualized characters.

>>382453942
It's only done to one gender.

>>382454024
can't help but notice France, Burgundy and Aquitaine rubbing their curves against each other in this pile of hands legs and other appendages

hnnnnnnnng

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>>382450069
>unrealistically narrow waists
I wonder if they ever watchet ballet
They would have heart attack i guess

>>382454335
>rejects 90% of male characters in fighting games

Lol ok Mr. Cherrypicker

>>382454335
That's bullshit but I believe it

>>382450069
>Half its audience
It should be "potential audience".
I think having attractive people in non-real worlds is a good thing, and that people who cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality probably should self destruct. This includes many of the people here.

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>>382454335
You mean only one gender is shamed for their sexuality? Yeah, unfair isn't it.

>>382450069

>unrealistically narrow waists

You know, every time I see someone say this, it literally just means the character isn't a whale and thus sets an impossible standard of beauty.

>>382454335
>*It's only complained about by one gender
fixed

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>>382454460
>big buff guy, maybe with a shirt off and looking intimidating
>is the same as a skinny bitch doing anatomically impossible poses in plate bikini just so the viewer can see both her tits and ass

All women should get a training rape.

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>>382450069
>according to a new study from Indiana University
>some faggot is wasting resources in this shit
White people should be forbidden from going to college

I'm just glad it's coming from an actual academic institution rather than a con-artist on youtube with a victim complex.

>>382454024
>Who else France waifu?
dudebro as fuck

clearly, miss Byz is the patrician choice
just look at those endless muscular legs which are so long that they don't even fit in the pic

>>382454616
Tits and ass aren't genitals tho. So technically shirtless man with naked ass is equally naked.

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>>382454790
I should post a pic aswell, lol

>>382454514 (Me)
As a secondary point, I believe that tits larger than
a little over hand size is a waste but people are allowed to have their attractions.

Will this board /v/ ever get better? Will shitty threads continue into infinity here?

>>382454695
If and only if all men get the same
Nevermind that most rapes inflict sequels that can last years

>>382454616
Go to fucking tumblr where literally ever character to ever exist is rewritten to be gay to satisfy female sexual fantasies.

When you think about it, would Islam really be so bad?

>>382455016
I volunteer as tribute.

>>382454715
I'm white and college educated, but fuck all the literal whiteknights who feel the need to defend anything and everything but their own race.

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>>382454616
if this isn't "sexualizion" then i don't know what is

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>>382454024
>>382454790
>>382454878
silly heretics
the optimal choice is the Aryan masterrace - Holy Roman Empire

look, she even has TWO(2) tiny waists

Deus Vult, Brothers

>over-enlarged breasts or hips and unrealistically narrow waists.

Wow, body shaming in 2017? I thought we were making some progress in tearing down that form of misogyny.

>>382450069
Doesn't she anything more interesting to research? This is like compiling a list of all celebrity nudes from movies and complaining about it.

>>382450069
>this is still an "issue"
I honestly thought this was over by now, didn't know feminists are still doing this

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There's absolutely no need to over-sexualize a body to make it attractive.

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>>382452357
Don't talk shit on my bro

Fuck dude, I should go back to IU and get them to pay for my research. God knows my girly, faggy ass could pry out the cash if this crazy bitch can for this shit.

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>The most sexualized character picked by the study is Ivy Valentine from Soul Caliber, released in 2014 by NAMCO

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>>382454024
>>382454790
>>382455169
clearly you boys have never had Native American pussy
she can fill your every orifice simultaneously

talk about hot tribal sex

don't lie, its perfectly reasonable to admit to jizzing to this

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>>382455152
>Solid Snake
Quiet was just an attempt by Kojima to cover up his homosexual tendencies, that's why her name is Quiet. He wants to keep it quiet

>>382455169
you got lost on your way to /pol/, friend

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Post'em... these fucking oversexualized characters

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Why is oversexualization bad necessarily?
Hot girls make me want to buy games more since I'm a horny bastard.

Also
>marginalizing half of their audience
>half
There aren't oversexualized girls in mobileshit

>>382450069
video games are quite literally nothing without cute anime girls

>>382453684
>muh kultrual Marxismus
Gay prides are, for 75% of people, being fucking degenerate and having fun for one day before returning to normal

Maybe hets should do the same as well to vent the frustrations.

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>>382455546
your cave people have no chance against latinas

>>382455686
Pure bred Spanish Latina coming right up

>>382455463
>Soul Caliber released in 2014
they spell the name of the series wrong, and pick the year where it had nothing except perhaps load swords
I'm mad.

>>382450069
> unrealistically narrow waists
Why do the people who do these studies refuse to acknowledge that women can be thin?

>>382450069
>pbs
Literally who?

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>>382450069
>pbs

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>>382454790
>>382454878
S E X Y
E
X
Y

>>382456034
>>382456078
short for "plebs"

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>still claiming half the audience is female

will this ever die?

My fiancée is narrow waisted, wide hipped, with E cup tits.

She really gets pissed off with how often feminists call her natural body shape 'unrealistic' and 'overly sexualised'.

Giving female characters better writing, more varied body shapes and clothing consistent with how male characters dress is something we should all be wanting , and is true feminism.

Attacking attractive character designs as if sex and sexual desire itself is in any way wrong and demanding all female characters have underdeveloped, more masculine bodies is the opposite of feminism, it's just another form of misogyny from a bunch of hateful prudes.

Saying that, the game industry has been way too dude focused for decades though. Ever since the US market crash of the 80's and Nintendo deciding to avoid the association with games there with the NES by selling it as a 'boys toy', gamers have been conditioned to act and think like manchildren, so it's no wonder so many of us are spoilt little cunts that don't want girls playing with our toys thirty years later.

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>>382456138
Back in formation!

>>382454024
why tho?

>>382456236
not so long as mobileshit keeps existing

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>>382450069
Ugly women bitching about pretty virtual women. But they do it with pseudo intellectual terms like "sexualization" or "hypersexualization" in order to sound like they know what they're talking about.
It's called being attractive. Stop the presses. Men like pretty&curvy women with big breasts.

>it’s marginalizing half its audience [by] making women characters pander to the male gaze

So it's marginalizing women by making them pretty so men like to look at them? This is making my brain hurt. Please stop publicly humiliating yourselves PBS.

>>382456257
b8

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>>382455848
>Gay prides are, for 75% of people, being fucking degenerate
>Maybe hets should do the same as well
And don't have any white kids right? Wouldn't want to bring them into this degenerate world, not with Drumpf president!

>>382450069
Another cancerous "study".

>If you ignore them, they will go away

>>382450069
Wel, I like girls, despite the fact that they don't like me, so videogames are the only kind of interaction I can have with them, and I wouldn't appreciate that some broad with an actual social life trying to insert herself into my hobby, or a numale trying to score feminazi point, take that away from me.
They already have a good life, leave my suff alone.

>>382455734
>Why is oversexualization bad necessarily?

Because ugly womyn can't face reality.

>>382450069
>has existed since the days of Super Mario
>from 1989-2014

Super Mario Bros came out in 1984. How do they know hypersexualization existed that far back if their study didn't cover those years?

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>>382456236
Mobile farmville/candy crush type shit continues to be shoved into these statistics. Dont expect femnazis to ever stop citing these statistics despite mobile gaming and AAA titles being opposite sides of the spectrum since it lets them push that agenda.

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>>382456282
Basileus will know about your incompetence, I will see to it, Alexios.

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>>382455686
I'm not kidding. This guy is seriously the hottest fucking character I've ever seen in a game. I played Des and DS at launch, and when I walked through that gate, I thought I was ready. I vividly remember my eyes widen and my mouth open a little at the sight of his wide, muscular, dark chest, his huge cleaver weilding arms, and his glowing red eyed skull head. I got stomped, just stood there while the dogs got me and then he plowed me. I was fully erect by the time I respawned at the bonfire.

>>382456236
>the same people that in other "analysis" complains about the lack of female players because games pander to males

>>382450697
because to them (and it seem to you too), sexualization means a non-fat woman. It doesn't matter if they have big or small boobs or asses, or if they extremely beautiful or plain. If she's not fat, then she's sexualized.

>>382456504
>And don't have any white kids right?
I would have white kids if I could. I want to raise children and give them my values.
And of course, as soon as I have them, degenerate livestyle goes away. There's a time and place for everything.

>>382456783
why does this exist?

>>382456685
It actually comes from a study where people called homes to take surveys. Most of the people who answered were housewives and since they answered "Yes" to the question of "do you have a video game console in your house?" they were lumped in as part of a demographic that plays video games.

It's stupid shit but I like how mad women with large tits feel at being told they are somehow over-sexualized or unrealistic.

Like apparently the only realistic female body is some boyish androygenous look? Pretty much seems like they are chestlets jealous of women with bigger tits.

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>>382456815
Pic related is the same as your text but without baiting.
There's nothing sexual here - just muscles, an arm, and a helmet - and yet I find him so attractive.

>>382456495
Not bait.

I'm an oldfag and a britbong. We never had the gaming crash yanks had, and Nintendo were never the biggest player in the market until the Wii.

Gaming always appealed more to boys, sure, but it wasn't until 5th gen and the Playstation when games stopped being advertised to girls as well as boys here, and for that you can blame globalisation for the American advertising model being made universal.

It's the same bollecks that changed Marathons to Snicers and Opal Fruits to Starburst. Fucking marketing wankers.

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>>382456282
>tfw no slave girl to go back home to after slaughtering teuton barbarians alongside your decanus

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>>382450069
>females
>half the audience

>>382456685

Doesn't matter anyway, they'd just say that the lack of girls in console/pc gaming is even more of a reason to ban sexy characters, because their presence is scaring all the girls away. Gotta get that representation up. For these people it's not an argument, it's a crusade.

The more they've tried to guilt men into being ashamed of their sexuality (muh male gaze and that bullshit ) the more comfortable it's actually made me with liking to look at girls.

>>382454460
>>382454489
>>382455152
There's only few male characters like that, meanwhile there's over 500 female characters where their sexualization is the only reason why they're playable.

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>>382456930
Fuck me runnin then
I always figured they just grabbed stats from every platform they could find including phones. It seems like a much better way to come to the conclusion that 50% of every single gamer is female.

>>382457107
>Marathons and Opal Fruits before the re-name
Next yo're going to be talking about John Barnes and It's a Knockout

>>382457327
>For these people it's not an argument, it's a crusade.

They are people still denying this.

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>>382457159
*unzips castration*
Let worries escape, brethren, soon you don't have to.

Prostagma?

>>382457365
>moving goal post
buzz off roastie

>>382457365
Shitty bait desu

>>382457365
Literally the entire male cast of DoA is fapbait to somebody or other, even worst husbando, Rig, has his fans.
Then there's Heihachi's fundoshis in Tekken, Miguel and Bryan's abs, the wrestlers, and Ganryu is in little more than a loincloth.

>>382457365
it's almost like the majority of gamers are straight males or something woah

>>382457365
500 female characters 'since' 1989.

>>382457373
The statistic honestly doesn't even matter, really, because from the perspective of feminazis 50% of gamers should be female because 50% of _every_ demographic has to be female or else they're being pushed out by sexism. If women don't want to play games that's just more evidence of "marginalization" (whatever the fuck this even means) to them.

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>>382454616
>doesn't like FICTIONAL women being sexualized
>calls them a bitch

>>382457531
pay denbts

>>382457038

For men, power and strength are tantamount to sex appeal. A guy in tighty-whities dancing on a pole isn't hot, unless you're gay. I don't even know why I'm saying this, everyone who doesn't actually have autism understands this implicitly, but you have to pretend that "sexualization" entails the same things for both sexes for some dumb reason. Meanwhile, 50 Shades of Grey sold like 50 million copies.

The primary consumer base and audience have been men since the get-go since they were the ones dumping their spare change into arcade cabinets since the 2-bit era. Girls weren't the ones dropping $200 USD for an NES, or buying SNES games for $50, or suckered into buying the Saturn for $400 even though it had nothing at launch, or throwing down $600 for the Nogaemsstation 3, or burning a fucking grand on GPUs, or spending God knows how much on old-ass arcade cabinets for personal ownership.

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>>382450069
You don't need to be heterosexual to realize this is an exageration of the subjet matter by a handful of very vocal people who worries about 1st world issues instead of focusing on real problems.

TL;DR This is bullshit.

>>382457848
>unless you're gay
But I am.

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>>382457790
Is this how you treat your elders, son?
Wait till the Patriarch hears about this.

>>382450069
>male gaze
This right here completely negates the entire purpose of the study because it is entirely biased against male sexuality with the purpose of the study to only guarantee one outcome.

>>382453942
Nothing.

>>382457848
Why do you think women look at male strippers? Sexualization is same for both genders.

>>382450069
like youre a fucking faggot.

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>>382450069
>over-enlarged breasts or hips and unrealistically narrow waists.
>over-enlarged hips and narrow waists


Isn't this basically the go-to caricature/cartoon form for women? By this logic you could say Dexter's Mom was oversexualized.

>>382457038
I'm not baiting either mate. I'm pretty sure it can be explained. Capra's just perfect for me. Matches all my interests.
He's my husbando. What are your interests?
>>382457848
I'm gay but I'm definitely not attracted to a guy pole dancing. I'm pretty sure based on my taste and attraction that I'm just as into power and domination as the girls. Or are you say all gay guys are girl-brained?

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>>382458150
>By this logic you could say Dexter's Mom was oversexualized.

>>382454024
who there bro, its blue board

MODS!!!!

>>382458139
>Sexualization is same for both genders.
That's too oversimplified. Sure women enjoy looking at attractive men but it's not as central as it is for men. There's a reason the majority of female-oriented porn comes as books instead of images like men seek out.

>>382450069
I don't care.

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>>382458305
Alright you got me, she's thicker than a bowl of oatmeal, but still

>>382458406
Because women are smarter?

>>382458139
>Sexualization is same for both genders.

Not anymore. Same with racism and discrimination, only white males are guilty of that. So, a good looking man is fine but a good looking womyn is discrimination against "real" (meaning: ugly) womyn.

>>382455546
>native american making hot sexytime with Byzzies
I actually havent seen sucha thing.

I DEMAND THAT SOMEBODY MAKE IT HAPPEN.

>>382458406
It's not. Trust me there is a GLUT of written porn for every gender and sexuality, you just aren't looking. The thing is, normie women don't want to be thought of as porn consumers, so the market for quasi-porn is aimed strongly toward them.

>>382450069
Do you know what to do to identify a gay or vegan or a left-hand person?
Nothing, they feel like they HAVE to tell you.

>>382454024
aww shit nigger, you should spoiler that

>pbs
daily reminder that your tax dollars are funding this garbage and this attack on your hobby

>>382458576

I think women have slightly higher verbal intelligence, on average.

Wait wait no that's not right, we're exactly the same and girls can have penises too, bigot.

>>382450069
>pander to the male gaze
Well then.. it's obvious what the intent was here, and nothing in this "article" can be taken seriously anymore. Also nudity isn't "hypersexualization" and large tits+narrow waists can be attributed at times to stylistic design.

The fact that the games industry is being so heavily "scrutinised" for things that are given a pass in other media makes me real fucking suspicious as well. I can already think of certain TV shows that would fit under this 'hypersexualization' definition.

>>382458576
lmao no, men are biologically superior in every aspect

>>382458576
Women care much more about the situation then men, the description of what's going on as opposed to just looking at the body. For the most part the situation in male-directed porn is just a wrapper for the fucking that people just discard.

>>382458794
I'm not saying it doesn't exist. You can find somebody somewhere with just about every conceivable arrangement of sexual preferences. I'm just talking about mainstream pornography since this is what the majority of average folks consume.

>>382458821
LOL! thanks for forwarding Mike, great stuff Haha

>>382451671
>>382458832
Can you please stop using the word "ni**er"? Please grow up. Nobody even says the N word nowadays.

>>382450069
>all women are no joy lesbians like ME
so pathetic

They main physical trait to emphasize in a man for appeal to women is height, but nobody calls making your male character tall "sexualization."
The rules are written to shame men's sexual desire. Mind you, these rules are much older than modern feminism. Feminists just added some pseudoscience to it to rationalize their culture's beliefs.

>>382459072
you didn't say the magic word nigger

What's the difference between sexualization and HYPERSEXUALIZATION?

>>382456857
No wonder you're asshurt.

>>382459178
Nip games are too hardcore for the west that it's considered hyper.

>>382459072
yeah man, nigger get offended easily. poor negros

>>382458406
>but it's not as central as it is for men.
prove it.

>>382450069
>Videogames and the media in general become completely correct and have no violence or sexualization
>Suddenly there are tons of people assaulting others and plenty more sex attacks due to people being pent up with no escapism

Just look at any non-western country when it comes to this kind of thing; the more you force people away from something the more desperate they are to get it, regardless of how taboo you'll make it.

>>382458984
How exactly can you accurate determine what is "mainstream" porno?

>>382458406
>>382458847
>>382458984
Women don't prefer books because they're different. They prefer them because books aren't censored by men for male consumers like other media. Books are the only thing that has female gaze.

Sexualization Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fapping

>>382458984
To clarify, when you say men, do you mean all men, most men, or just most straight men?

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>>382459178
sexualization - can apply to women

HYPERSEXUALIZATION
Y
P
E
R
applies only in pic related

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>>382454616
>>382457365
Will something this make you happy?

>>382459538
Women aren't attracted to big muscles like men.

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and yet womens magazines look like this

nobody complains about women marginalizing...women

>>382457775
I just I were 14 again when I could vomit such utter bullshit onto the internet with such confidence

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>>382459538
Or this

>>382450069
uhh... you don't like it, don't buy it.

>>382450069
>unrealistically narrow waists
>over-enlarged breasts or hips

Seems kind of subjective to be a doctoral project.

>>382459597
Women do. Talk to one sometimes.

>>382459657
wear some clothes faggot

>>382459461
I certainly don't mean _all_ men, I think that's clear enough from the second half of the post.
But I don't think it has anything to do with orientation. It's not a controversial statement to say your stereotypical gay is even more focused on physical sexuality than straight males are. Again you can see this from what gay sexualization looks like, and from the huge concern a lot of young gay people have about aging and becoming physically unappealing.

>>382457848
>a guy in tighty-whities dancing on a pole isn't hot
How in the hell did you come to this conclusion

>>382459668
And then what? Not talk about it? I feel like if we follow this logic to its conclusion /v/ should be empty.

>>382459765
>Talk to one sometimes.
all what they do is complain, no thanks.

>>382459828
I'm just concerned. Since I'm a gay guy, and I'm very focused on stories and situations in porn, you seem to be implying I'm somehow psychologically womanly.

>>382459867
>Why don't women complain about this
>Talk to one
>But they just complain

>>382460157
you're complaining right now

>>382450069
We are always creating things in the image of something, who the fuck cares. I'm certain people know how to distinguish reality from fiction, right?

>>382450069
>be fat disgusting roastie
>suddenly have to compete with virtual characters as graphics improve
>VR about to cut off free money from suckers who would "settle"
>go into full roastie rage

>>382460245
So are you.

>>382458139
Yes, but there's definitely something else than raw porn which attracts people.
I'm not straight but I've heard that people are sometimes more affected by ladies in underwear than naked ones because of the power of imagination.

>>382458243
>What are your interests?
I don't like anything in Whilem's character, but those perfect abs, these legs, that crotch...

>>382460426
thanks for proven my point

>>382460124
>you seem to be implying I'm somehow psychologically womanly.
Women like dick, and you don't seem particularly concerned that liking dick makes you psychologically a woman. I don't know why another sexual preference would be different.

>>382459597
Fat women do.

>>382460284
Because everyone else is forced to have their reality and fiction censored for straight men.

>>382460526
Don't think you had a point.

>>382460340
sauce

>>382460538
>Women like dick

Wrong. Women fuck other women more than men fuck other men, that means women psychologically don't prefer dick.

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>>382460817
HS

>>382461104
Honey Select? I don't believe you

>>382460927
Textbook non-sequitur

>>382461104
>womb tattoo

wow
i felt a small spark in my dick for the first time in months.
but now nothing again.

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>>382454616
Actually, the current stereotype of Y-shaped muscled man is unhealthy due to uneven development of musculature, and causes vascular issues and puts a huge strain on the man's spine due the uneven distribution of the strength a man can apply with that sort of shape.
An actual muscled man is shaped like a goddamn bear, not like an Y, but men train like that for, guess what, sex appeal

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>>382461169
You better believe.

>>382461183
All genders prefer vagina.

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>>382455686

>Every single things humans do has a sexual connotation because we're hardwired to think about it pretty much constantly because it's really the only thing we're here for
>But it's terrible and damaging when video games are sexual

>>382450697
Yeah and? most of the guy characters have unachievable steroid bodies too. why do things have to be so fucking realistic in a fantasy fake setting?

>>382450069
>PRETENTIOUS RICH ASSHOLE IN ADULT DAYCARE FINDS THAT HUMANS WANT TO FUCK OTHER HUMANS IN GROUNDBREAKING NEW STUDY UTILIZING THE "GOOGLE ANIME TITTIES" TECHNIQUE

WOAH HOLY SHIT

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>>382452634
>talking shit about Wario

>>382461275
Men are naturally Y-shaped and it doesn't strain them.

>>382461352
>Women fuck other women more than men fuck other men
Which doesn't show that women like "vagina" more. Still a good majority of women will be exclusively heterosexual, or as heterosexual as heterosexual men are.

>>382460927
Pretty much this.

Women are Bi by default, and lesbians are actually more common than heterosexual women in all studies performed on what causes arousal. Hell even some women that defined themselves as straight often don't get turned on by dudes at all.

Women's attraction can be overridden by by the imperative to reproduce though, and presenting as a good parent and provider, or with good, strong genes, will get even hardwired dykes wetter than a trout in a typhoon.

Of course women often do also get turned on by pretty much any porn, including other apes fucking, which men don't, so they're all kind of fucked up anyway.

Meanwhile dudes tend to either be gay or straight, mostly straight, with little propensity toward bisexuality outside of situations where women aren't available, like prisons, when eventually sheer hormonal need to fuck something will suddenly make anything look shagable.

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>>382461556
>Luigi NTRd 2.jpg
What the fuck man

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>>382461654
>Women are Bi by default

>>382450605
close your eyes nigga

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>>382461801

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>me, just like LOTS of people, like games with sexy girls. So, me and those guys buy the games with sexy girls
>game dev realize that we do that, and so he makes games with cute girls because he wants our money more than he cares about feminazi crap
>everyone is happy, the market keeps spinning

That is not hard to understand, my fag friend. Where there is a necessity, there is a smart seller to suply it.

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>>382461571
Tell me, which of these two developed a musculature around strength and which around looks

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>>382461784

>>382462227
is there a 3rd?

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>>382462338

>>382450069
makes me think "I remember when News Hour used to actually be good"

>>382459335

This post makes less sense every time you read it.

>>382462635
How is it wrong?

>>382462221
That difference has much less with how the muscles were developed and much more to do with body fat percent. The dudes at the bottom have developed legs too, so it's not like they skiped muscle groups.
If you put the dude at the top on a strict diet to cut body fat so that only lean muscle mass remained, he would look like a bigger more buff version of the dudes at the bottom.
The difference is just body fat

>>382462221

You can't compare a Powerlifter with a Bodybuilder.

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>>382450069
>Study from _____ University
>Media Communications Professor

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>>382450069
>it’s marginalizing half its audience
>video games
>half its audience

I really doubt it
90% are guys for sure

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>>382450069
>half its audience

>>382457107
>blame globalisation for the American advertising model being made universal.
THIS
H
I
S

The problem is marketing and profits. The marketers are the root of all problems in this world. It'd be nice if feminists went after them instead of the developers for once, but marketers are vicious, so they know better than to attack them.

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>>382462835

>>382461801
All humans are bi by default, but prefer vagina.

>>382461801

I think his argument is more about "arousal" than preference. There's no evidence that I'm aware of that women have a higher bi sexual preference but there are studies that support their arousal is more inclusive than exclusive.

>>382450069

I'm not sure how they classify hyper sexualization from the general form but video games are guilty of pandering to certain demographics involving sex.

I think the problem here is that few studies if any look into the different variations of sexualization in games. Some are built specifically to titillate while others are more or less romance simulations that features idealized females that men wished exist.

To lump these two in the same pool in terms of sexualization grossly misses the underlying issue that cause them to arise in the first place.

>>382450697
Putting words in people's mouths is not a good way to start a discussion.

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>>382450605
Every time I hear the phrase "male gaze" I want to slap the writer. As if physical attraction is this evil thing that needs to be stopped, and men need to have their eyes taken away.

Stop demonizing normal, heterosexual male sexuality.

>>382462831

>It's not because women have different preferences that they prefer books
>they just like books because books are the only medium which cater to their prefererences (which are different)

>>382463429
Well it's how everyone seems to be coming into this discussion. It's /v/.

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>>382450697
>blatantly ignoring shit like the humongous fucking male heroes that we play, IE Kratos
Also pic related, and considering your shit is fanart I'll just use fanart too

>>382463461
Stop creeping on women you virgin

>>382463461
Stop demonizing normal heterosexual female sexuality first.

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>>382459072

>>382463649
How is that being done? Is there some initiative somewhere to make male characters keep their shirts on?

Literally all of this is landwhales and ugly cunts complaining that we want women who don't look like absolute fucking trash and actually make an effort to improve themselves.
If videogames didn't exist, they'd be shitting on television and film for setting unrealistic standards via actors.
If television and film didn't exist, they'd be shitting on art for setting unrealistic standards via...well, art.
If art didn't exist, they'd be shitting on normal people for looking passable.
If normal people didn't exist, they'd be shitting on each other because they're all competition for who gets to claim Chad Thundercock.

Women may be half the population, but they are not even fucking close to half the audience. By over sexualizing characters they are appealing to their massive majority audience, which is a smart thing for these companies.

>>382463174
Again, look at that guys arms, It's the SAME muscles. His are just much bigger. He's developed his muscles MORE. Also if your goal is power lifting and you want to lift as much as possible, you dont really care about looking good. Your constantly on a bulk so you can build muscle faster, so you store fat. Powerlifters look like bears and not perfectly cut gods with washboard abs because they are fat.

>>382463741
>Is there some initiative somewhere to make male characters keep their shirts on?

Yes. Men calling games "gay" and developers afraid of making them uncomfortable.

>>382463608
>Women being attractive
>FAKE women
>Creeping on them
Are you fucking retarded or what?

>>382464175
[Citation needed]

>>382464223
So you don't come outside at all, or you just leave your healthy male sexuality at home?

>pbs.org
what the fuck happened to pbs

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>>382459072
Nigga can you just man the fuck up and say "Nigger". You're the one who needs to grow up if you can't even type it out.

>>382463950

>but they are not even fucking close to half the audience.

Not in the "tradition" sense involving console and pc gaming. But in the "modern" sense involving smartphones/ tablets and social games they are very close to being half.

>>382464365
Damn straight I don't.

But that's beside the point. Fake or real, just because a female is attractive and I look at them doesn't mean I'm creeping on them you retard.

>>382464449
Holy shit

>>382464691
Well, good thing you don't go outside, at least.

>>382464449
This. Either fucking say it or sub in a different word. If you absolutely must refer to the word in say, a courtroom or during a class presentation, then fine. "N word" or "F word" are fine, but on the internet (4chan no less), bleeping yourself is low test babby bullshit

>>382464448
>Youtube comments
>Western complaints on characters with looks based on J-pop idols

>>382463429
Proper way to start a conversation is to put dick in mouth

>>382464515

Which means that women are overrepresented among mobile gamers and underrepresented among traditional console / pc gamers. But there's hardly any connection between these two groups.

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Fuck men, and fuck white people.

>>382464423

Nothing happened, they're still legit. They're just reporting research and studies being done here. Unlike tv where they have limited space to feature studies like this their website can host it all it wants.

Same shit happens with legit science and research sites I frequent. The difference is these kind of articles get very little traction and views unless someone like op post it on boards/ forums for discussion.

>>382464854
I just avoid saying it, but I don't get triggered when I see it posted.
It's 4chan, after all.

>>382450069

why are women such miserable and bitter fun hating creatures?

>>382450069

"Hypersexualization" (if you want to call it that) definitely occurs in the game industry, but when articles use terms like "male gaze" lifted straight from feminist academia, I tend not to care about whatever perceived causes they're fighting for, because it's clear they're piggybacking that one issue as a means of getting their foot in the door, so they can push a ton more political bullshit that doesn't belong in video games in the first place.

I'm not straight either. I don't really care if video game developers want to have half-nude characters for the sake of fanservice, but I think it's a bit excessive at times. Maybe they could exercise a bit more tact if they want to craft games that are to be taken more seriously for merits such as storytelling. Does straight pandering put me off? To a degree, depending on how excessive it is. I definitely have no interest in shit like DoA or loli simulators. Those games are incredibly vain, and outside of blatant fanservice, they don't hold up.

>>382464810
I never said I don't go outside, my sexuality doesn't. You're the retard who's only referring to that. "Oh I found out this guy's a virgin, better keep referring to that." I can guarentee that most people on this site are virgins, and can almost guarentee you are one, too.

You are some femenist retard if you think looking at a female is creeping on them. I bet you think it's fucking rape with that degenerate mind of yours.

>>382464423
They replaced the funding Republicans stripped from public television with funding from lefty foundations. So now we have yet another unprofitable left-wing propaganda outfit on TV.

Thanks, GOP.

>>382464889
Their looks are based on what women want and male gamers want it censored. It's not just youtube, it's whole internet and devs get harassed and called "gay" for making something for girls.

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>>382450069
>what do straight people think about this?

men like looking at the female form

this is disgusting and wrong and shameful and anyone that doesnt have hiv+ black trannies blow poison loads in their intestines is a problematic human and needs to read this pbs article.

fuck off, you slobbering, mongoloid half wit

>>382452634
And even then, he exists purely as a joke character.

>>382461104
how do you get the skin to be nice and smooth like that?

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>>382464276
There really is some truth to this.

>>382464952
>says this on /v/
You're not wrong

>>382465407
>it's whole internet
>devs get harassed and called "gay"

>>382465345
>I never said I don't go outside
You did, actually. It's not my fault that you're unable to express yourself clearly.
>my sexuality doesn't
Right, well, that part was a joke because obviously you can't just become asexual when you cross the threshold.
> "Oh I found out this guy's a virgin, better keep referring to that."
Well, I guess I found out now.
>You are some femenist retard if you think looking at a female is creeping on them.
It is when you're talking about it in the context of male sexuality.
>I bet you think it's fucking rape with that degenerate mind of yours.
You're the degenerate, creep.

>>382465407
>take established series and suddenly put something the fanbase doesnt like
>the fanbase is in the wrong

It's unfortunate that feminist academia is still perpetuating this patriarchal definition of sexualization that means solely what cis straight men find sexually attractive.

>>382465610
Not pictured: Literally everyone calling the change retarded and his original design being restored in the sequel.

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>>382465586
8k specular mod

>>382450069
I like to see SOMEONE do a in-depth study of "testoteronization" in the NFL or basically ANY form of scrutiny about the practices of the NFL. Than i realized that if they did any of that their career's would end before even beginning.

>>382465743
Guys being designed to appeal to girls has been a thing in FF, since at least 7. You're desperate, and he's right. Same thing happened with mobius FF, they had to change the MC's default clothes, because too gay for the insecure boys in gaming.

>>382466007
wtf does that have to do with videogames?

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>>382465610
Why was zero popular despite having boobs and long bimbo hair?

Was it because it was on the snes and people literally thought he was a girl?

>>382465693
>It is when you're talking about the context of male sexuality

Don't get me wrong, the guy you are responding to is retarded, but what?

>>382461104
how comparable is this to modding Skyrim?
because i dont know if i want to do this for hours and hours

>>382465743
>suddenly
FF always had unrealistically attractive men.

>fanbase
Most of FF fanbase is females. Men are the ones who want to change established series.

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>>382466141
>and people literally thought he was a girl?

"unnaturally thin waist"

Bullshit. Go to any gym and there's girls that are even thinner than gaming girls.

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>>382456136

>>382466330
>>382466107
>its the insecure males
>most of the ff fanbase is female
or maybe japans and the west have different ideas of a protagonist?

>>382450069
>Hypersexualization
i.e. sexualization
So, stop liking sex. No.

>>382465791
That did happen later when it turned out that it didn't work, but the point is, there are stuffy marketing guys making decisions based on what they believe the male audience will be alienated by. It's as nonsensical as thinking that covering up female sexuality will grow female audiences, but that's how these people think.

>>382451671

>Hurr male power fantasy.

Even though there are literally THOUSANDS of erotic novels written by women, featuring beefcakes. That, and big gay bear dudes probably wish they could get tag teamed by He-man and Skelewhore. People that complain about fiction, male or female, need to be slapped.

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>Hypersexualization

>>382459597
Are you retarded, anon?

>>382466827
>BUT WHAT ABOUT X!??

>>382450069
Well actually with /v/ logic, since no men are playable the game is gay.

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>>382466324
Depends on how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go.
Applying mods is drag & drop folders into main directory.

>>382466742
No, male gamers have different idea of a protagonist.

imagine going to university and studying sexualization of women in videogames
thats why this world is turning to shit

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>>382465518
Wario is manly and cool and popular with the ladies.

>>382465756
It wasn't an issue as little as ten years ago, then something happened and suddenly they had a voice and a lot of influence - suddenly being a red blooded man who likes attractive women was a terrible thing.

I think we're breaking out of it, though. We're getting to the point where the idea of the patriarchy is a big joke to most people and far fewer people have problems with imaginary titties.

>>382454715
You say that but the people supporting that shit think so as well, so I'd choose my words more carefully.

>>382466357
"Unnaturally thin" means anyone who isn't a fat mess that doesn't take care of themselves, anon. It's completely natural for people to be fat blobs with no definition. Healthy at any size.

>some people think having cute guys in a game is 'gay'
No, it's a good idea. Slap a guy girls swoon over on the cover and watch them defend your game to the mother fucking death.
Doesn't even have to be the main character.
I'm straight, I'm not blind.

>>382466827
There's room in the world for critics. But there's also plenty of room for oiled, muscle-bound adonises and ridiculously voluptuous vixens as idealized objects of sexual desire, and plenty of games that don't feature those.

>>382455848
>Maybe hets should do the same as well to vent the frustrations.
You should have seen the asspain about a supposed Heterosexual Pride Day on social media.

>>382453942
it devalues women by placing importance on their appearance above all else and creates unrealistic standards in men

this is objectively the case here judging by the amount of virgins who think they deserve a 7/10+ girl when they're probably around a 3 or 4

>>382467656
>implying that being a 3/4 as opposed to a 8/9 dictates what a virgin deserves.

>>382450697
all anyone wants is for you worthless subhumans to stop trying to fuck with games and other media by making shallow and uninformed criticisms of things you never intended to buy in the first place

>>382467656
First off I don't think anyone thinks that they deserve a specific girl. Second no one does deserve a specific girl.

>>382467656
In other words, "WHY WON'T THESE FUCKING MISOGYNISTS DATE ME"

>>382467946
Allow me to use whataboutism.

Incels.

>>382467656

Please go away Tumblr

>>382467656
The existence of better looking (let alone fictional) people than you isn't devaluation.
>unrealistic standards in men
Weird because men are less selective about sexual partners than are women.

It's pitiable to be envious of attractive women, but truly pathetic to be envious of fictional characters.

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Articles like this make it seem like if these people had their way, being a straight man would be illegal.

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Fat insecure women past their prime who finger bang themselves to Chads; The Article

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>>382461104
>that womb tatoo
holy shit why is this not more common?