Isn't it crazy that Nintendo who never did 3D open worlds

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zelda is the best because it has a cute trap

>>382449739
like your pic implies, it's because of Xenoblade's influence on BotW (MonolithSoft were part of the huge development team for the game) - they've become god-like at creating interesting environments.

>>382449739
How much do they pay you per post? Where does one even apply for this job?

This entire thread alongside you OP showcases the intense dick riding you have for mega corporations with absolutely no respect for which came before.

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>>382449868
No, it doesn't. Doesn't look like this in-game and just as you get this costume you have to traverse a village filled with 10/10 female fuck machines which is Nintendo's message to you "stop being a faggot".

Only a deranged person would have eyes for Link in this village. Even pedophiles get their money worth.

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>>382450093
What the hell triggered you now?

Be thankful for people even making OC for 4chan. To make it fair I even picked two Witcher 3 pictures of two different locations.

>>382449739
>Nintendo who never did 3D open worlds suddenly do 3D open world
BotW's map was made by monolithsoft. you own fucking image should make this clear

>>382449868
Why do you fags never stay in your containment threads?

>>382451483
not OP but there's no evidence to suggest MonolithSoft designed BotW's entire world. We know they helped developed BotW's overworld in some form but we don't know to what extent - they could've simply provided some code Xenoblade X used.

>>382451665
Welcome to your first zelda thread. They're all gay for fembois.

>>382451979
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/01/30/monolith-softs-role-development-legend-zelda-breath-wild/
>On Skyward Sword, Monolith had mainly helped us on graphics design and other artistic elements. Even though we could have asked them for help on the technical side, we realized their way of making games was completely different from ours and we didn’t have much to learn from them on this installment, since we were almost doing two different jobs. On the other hand, for Breath of the Wild, we’ve been assisted by level designers used to large game areas, in order to make topographic arrangements.

>>382451979
M8 its really clear if you played both games.
The general world shit was definitely handled by them, but it looks like Nintendo fleshed out the important areas because that was pretty lacking in the last Xenoblade.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhjo73PjL4c

BotW is literally the most beautiful game ever on Cemu. Watch this.

I was so fucking disappointed when I made the journey to that tree in Witcher 3 only to realize its fucking nothing

>>382449739
>nintendo does generic open world game
>it has a nintendo ip attached to it so people pretend it's amazing
incredible

>>382451483
nothing wrong with getting help from the experts. Doesn't Nintendo own Monolithsoft?

>>382453617
>>382453617
>tfw turning on subtitles for this video

>>382452839
I know, but they have a million gay Link threads every day. Why do they have to spew their garbage all over other threads too?

>>382453617
this, can't wait to finish up my Switch playthrough and for Cemu to actually get good so I can play it at 4k60fps ultrawide

>>382449739
Zelda: BOTW
Release Date: March , 2017
>http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/zelda_breath_of_the_wild_needs_to_sell_2_million_copies_to_make_a_profit
60$ * 2,000,000,000 = 120 billion US$
Number of employees
≥ 3000

The Witcher 3:
Release Date: May 2015
Budet $81 Million
Number of employees
600 homeless slavs (2016)


Really makes you think.

>>382449739
>Nintendo
That's Monolith Soft, remember, they helped to make BotW.

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>>382453739
forgot pic

>>382450071
This. I'd like a job as a shill too!

>>382453828
>2 million
> 2,000,000,000

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>>382449739
But BotW is the complete opposite of Nintendo's usual design philosophy.

With this game making a ton of money and attracting a ton of attention and acclaim, Nintendo will be forced to consider making cutting-edge games a priority from now on. So perhaps they will become a developer to watch once again, at some point. The market — the "mane streem" — is rewarding them for going free-roaming, first with Xenoblade on the Wii U, and then with this, in which 400 people (including the entire studio that made Xenoblade) worked for five years with a multi-million dollar budget to bring it to fruition. So the "smaller is better" native American aboriginal Australian minimalist pauper limp-wristed fagot design philosophy has finally been disowned even by Nintendo — though of course don't expect anyone to verbalize this for a few more decades yet, because the entire pseudo-intellectual cartel controlling blogs and forums on the internet is still deeply and unrepentantly communist. But the execs at Nintendo have seen where the future lies, and that that future is both awesome, and highly lucrative. The question now, as far as the company is concerned, is whether they have the business acumen and artistic talent to pursue it.

In the last resort, if Nintendo is too stupid to keep the team together and churning out cutting-edge free-roaming masterpieces back-to-back, the devs can just disband and they will instantly be rehired in any number of studios across the world. Talent like that does not disappear from one day to the next, or even from one year to the next.

>>382453828
Witcher 3 is better for a different reasons, but nothing in recent years has come close to BotW's world design. Theres literally like 5 things to do wherever you look, even if they're not always that interesting.

>>382453828
I'm more impressed with the low number to make profit.

Most AAA games need like 2 or 3 times that much of sales.

>>382451483
Monolithsoft is first-party now.

>>382451483
Nintendo owns monolithsoft.

>>382454290
Is this cut content?

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>>382454290
it's a dog fucking a guy

shoo shoo animalfucker

>>382449739
>implying real world is full of interesting events and meaningful people to meet
MGS5 had the most realistic open-world. Boring, full of slavs and niggers, not much to do at all.

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>>382454349
In an interview they said that was the idea they had in mind for Wolf Link in BotW but I guess pointless Amiibo side content makes more money.

>>382453828
Nintendo does not get the full $60 for each copy of the game sold. A lot of that goes to the retailer.

>>382454290
>white man letting his wife get fucked by the dog

fucking kek

>>382454521
I think most people would unironically prefer getting cucked by a dog than by a nigger, desu.

>>382454482
Since Nintendo is both the publisher and developer they get a larger cut than the average game.

>>382454482
Yeah but here is a thing, Nintendo don't have to share the money with Sony,Microsoft or valve and/or Publisher for every game sold.

They get the full profit from it, of course not counting the retail and other expenses, but still quite impressive they have such low number to make profit.

>>382454593
>getting cucked is ok as long as the guy isn't black!

>>382454107
Since Nintendo doesn't want to make graphics too realistic, it helps keep budgets low. They rather go for polish and art style, then.

I feel like they are onto something there. This continuing inflation of budgets can't continue. Soon enough even lootbox and other microtransaction shit may not be enough anymore to turn up profits and a big crash may happen.

Hell, all it needs is for the 1% of players that bring in 80% of the microtransaction money to stop paying and it will all crash and burn. And Nintendo may be the only large games company left after that fire. Because they had an actual sustainable production pipeline.

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>>382449739
>5 different mountain tops where the zoomed in picture has something completely unrelated

uhh yeah man, you got us good lmao make sure you pre-order splatoon 2!

>>382454785
/fa/.jpg

ITT: Retards that don't know Monolith soft is a part of Nintendo

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>>382453828
>he thinks six multiplied by two million is a hundred and twenty billion

>>382454760
No, no, I just think I believe in this day and age more people would be more disappointed of their girlfriends cheating on them with a black dude than they would be when it's with a dog.

>>382454785
>where the zoomed in picture has something completely unrelated
but that's wrong, the thinhs shown actually are on/around those mountains.

>>382454965
I remember some retards thinking that Atlus owned Fire Emblem.

People are quite stupid when come to to that kind of things, even then only thing that they ever own is #FE related characters, even then it is a massive ass grey area and they can't really touch without Ninty permission.

>>382455053
That's the point, retared. You wouldn't know there's some unicorn elk thing, like the top left shows, just from a random mountain top in the distance.

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>>382454349
>>382454423
>>382454521
>>382454760
>tfw you are late to a thread and never in your whole life see the deleted stuff

>>382449739
what's the second game?

>>382454760
I wouldn't say it's okay, but it's certainty better that way than if it is a black guy.

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>>382455273
Horizon

>>382455043
They should be equally disappointed

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>>382449739
How much do you earn to shill for Nintendo? You DO get paid, right?

>>382455403
No, I'd still give the dog a slight advantage here.

>>382455342
How is it fucking better? Your girlfriend is still getting fucked behind your back.

>>382455389
it's like someone took Oblivia from Xenoblade X and made it completely lifeless

>>382455480
It would be equally disappointed because she's still getting fucked by someone/something that's not you.

>>382455389
oh
no wonder I didn't recognize that piece of filth

>>382455459
I think the real question is why aren't you using the catalog and some ad blocker?

>>382455235
It comes out and flys out and once you get skell it's pretty easy to see it but your right if didn't play game i would be wonder what the picture trying to show.

>>382455389
To be fair, that's only one section of the map. There are other different climates and terrain types. It's a decent recreation of Utah's various areas.

>>382455342
So what, it's okay to get cucked as long as a white Chad is cucking you?

>>382455579
But your dog is your best friend and 100% loyal. It's a part of you.

>>382455690
Who said anything about it being okay?

>>382455769
You seem to be way more hung up over black guys than the actual act of cucking

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>>382449739
>Nintendo who never did 3D open worlds

>>382455730
It's like your father or your brother fucking your wife then.

So, is it actually cucking when it's a dog? Just seems to be a crazy fetish but not really cucking. The dog isn't an entity comparable with a man, it cannot steal your wife, cannot finance her and take care of her and her children. It's just sex. Can a dildo cuck you?

Getting cucked by a black guy however means she does not only believe this guy fucks better than you, there is a chance she drops you for him entirely.

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>>382449739
The only reason BotW has so many POI is to detract the player from how empty the world inbetween is.

Plus, at least TW3 has interesting stories/side quests and NPC's. BotW has none of that but the same shitty shrines over and over again (with equally shit rewards).

>>382453617

Watching this hurt my eyes. 60 FPS should be a crime

>>382456265
That's the emptiest area and it's empty on purpose because you are supposed to fight guardians there or just train horses.

>>382456253
>its ok for a dog can fuck your wife because it can't buy her things

>>382449739
It's nintendo, they know how to make games

>>382456265
>Hyrule field is a field
Yea no shit, also there's Guardians that roam there

>>382456383
Well, yes. That's evolution for you.

And it's hot as fuck anyway because it's so degrading (same reason people find BLACKED hot except it's not really cucking with a dog).

>>382456253
>Getting cucked by a black guy
Again. Is it somehow less bad if a white Chad cucks you?

>>382454423
>a guy
Kek, it's so funny how autists can't distinguish genders sometimes.

>>382453617
>interpolation is 60 fps
kek

>>382450124
>Only a deranged person would have eyes for Link in this village
What if my have my eyes for Link and the females?

>>382456573
It's a bit less disappointing and frustrating since it's easier to understand and cope with.

>>382456478
It's not hot you fucking gypsy

>>382456742
If you honestly believe that then youve never had a girlfriend and are most likely a virgin

>>382449739
>what is Wind Waker
Also, it's easy to populate a world with shit graphics. Hell, if you skip graphics altogether, you could have an infinite world. But I guess it's okay to have shit graphics when Nintendo does it.

>>382456742
You are insanely stupid

>>382449739
>it's another 'Nintendo did X game therefore its the best of its genre'
Getting really tired of you fanboys

>>382453812
Because it's ok when nintendo does it.
:^)

>>382456808
I have a boyfriend and I would rather having him fuck/get fucked by Chad Thundercock rather than a black guy. At least I would understand why he went for Chad.

Is Xenoblade any good? If i liked BoTW would i like it too?

>>382456963
>Cucking is ok if the guy isn't black!
Jesus

>>382449739
>nintendo
>never did 3d open worlds.

Kill yourself.

>>382456265
That's near the ranch ruins, there is at least one Guardian roaming around and 2 bokoblins on horses, also, at night there could be stalhorses too. There is also korok seeds.

>>382449739
They did that with the closed world of twilight princess. The terrain looked really unnatural but you could see other sections around you. I guess they've been doing that since death mountain was visible in OOT.

>>382456963
>there are gay white supremacists
What a time to be alive

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It would be nice if BoTW's overworld had anything to do in it at all except complete unimportant fetchquests and kill reskins of the same 5 mobs.

How can an open world game have weaker sidequests than Majora's Mask while being almost 2 decades newer?

>>382457108
>what is reading comprehension
Mohammed

>>382457181
I just don't find black dicks hot.

>>382457296
You just admitted that you'd "understand" why he'd fuck another white man. You're fucking delusional and stupid

>Nintendo who never did 3D open worlds suddenly do 3D open world and are just as suddenly one of the best at it?
Was this your first console and game? This isn't even close to sudden, they've done this shit before.

>>382457413
Understanding something doesn't mean you believe it's okay.
I understand why Jamal does what he does, doesn't mean I think it's okay to blow himself up and kill a bunch of people of the same religion.

>>382449739
>Nintendo
>one of the best at open worlds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGikAa0YqSk
LOL

This image is hilarious because it proves that the person who made it didn't actually play The Witcher 3. You literally have to go to that tree as part of the main quest. It's not the game's fault that he's too retarded to figure out how to get there. He's also cherrypicking like a mother fucker. Why not make the same image but looking toward Novigrad and Oxenfurt? Or in Skellige or Toussaint?

>>382457609
What did you expect? to travel the entire planet?

>>382457729
OP's image is complaining about invisible walls in The Witcher 3 when BotW has the same problem.

The ridiculous double standard on this board is so bad that I hope it's trolling

>>382457729
>Open world
>It isn't actually open

>>382456265
>The only reason BotW has so many things in the world is to hide how empty the world is

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>>382456265
>The only reason BotW has things is because it doesn't have things

I think Zelda's map design is great, same as Xenoblades. I think both games struggle with the sense of reward of you actually checking out those interesting-looking areas though.

Xenoblade 2 having blades makes me kind of hopeful, since exploring will result in finding things that are unique and actually really valuable to the basic gameplay. Instead of another shrine, that's ultimately just another 1/4th of a heart container.

>>382458036
What's this anon? I'm soft for symbols.

>>382458218
There should have been more powers, and not all unlocked at the very beginning of the game

It didn't have that Zelda sense of progression because you unlock everything you need in the first hour

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>>382457932
I don't know about the witcher but there is absolute freedom inside the map of BoTW, you can even go inside the volcano if you want, the invisible wall appears when you want to leave the map. Was the invisible wall of the witcher the same?

The open world is fucking terrible in BOTW in fact I would argue its one of the laziest most uninspired open worlds in gaming. You wont find anything but stables, shrines, kokori seeds and the odd hylian traveller for vast stretches.

The enemy encampments are very sparse and very tedious to go through and none of them are bigger than a tribal camp in size.

In the 86 hours I have clocked in Cemu Id would guess at least a quarter of it was just spent climbing to the highest point nearest me so I could glide between the vast stretches of absolutely nothing to the next shrine or landmark.

I have high hopes a sequel game with more fleshed out content and gameplay will be the greatest game of all time though

>>382456985
it's different, being a rpg.

THe world is, imo, much more beautifull than BOTW, but much less interactive. Still, it's one of the very few games where i got engrossed enough to call in sick at work and play nonstop for 40+ hours

>>382449739
The thing is, the game still has a ton of issues and glaring flaws shared by plenty of early open world games.

The game was fucking boring for one, had very shallow mechanics all around, didn't have any item progression or sense of player reward, and was extremely content starved to the point the player is responsible for finding the "fun" after countless hours of walking.

I think they basically took the Zelda theme and made an early access survival game without anything really amazing. I'm sorry you are easily impressed by physics, but it's been done and hardly adds value to the experience of the all around gameplay.

>>382458635
why are you so mad at BOTW being goty or gotd?

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>>382457137
When did they do it?

>>382458482
>Was the invisible wall of the witcher the same?
No. Guy you quoted is retarded.

>>382458705
Because he bought a playstation instead of a N64, i bought both.

>>382454017
Interesting set pieces dont always make for good player content, the biggest issue with BOTW. Its visually appealing, you can climb it, but when it boils down to putting balls in a hole or entering yet another shrine for the same reward, it quickly loses its appeal.

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>>382453828
>2,000,000,000
>two million

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>>382458635
>the point is open world design where Nintendo games presumably win so please listen to my short review about the games and why they are shit and please let's pretend my opinions are fact

OK.

>>382458113
>strawman

>>382458705
I'm not mad at all. In fact, BOTW wont even win nearly as many GOTY awards as say Witcher 3.

THat being said, I thought the game was mediocre and it was the first Zelda I felt no desire to 100% nor ever come back to because of how shallow the game is designed.

The world is nicely crafted, but everything else is lacking severely. It's not even a good Zelda experience, I felt like I bought Subnautica again.

>>382458705
It might be GotY but that's just because nothing else that good has come out this year. Nier is pretty good but it has more issues than BotW does

If Odyssey doesn't outdo BotW, it will be a pretty depressing year. BotW was just high-average. It was a decent open world game, but it's not a Zelda game, and it really didn't bring anything new to the table. The novelty of being able to climb low resolution polygons wears off quickly and soon you just want to get from point A to point B as quickly as you can. The world isn't detailed enough for exploration to be its own reward.

>>382459021
>BOTW wont even win nearly as many GOTY awards as say Witcher 3.


Ohhhhhhh this is gonna be fun. All we are missing are a bag of dicks and crows on the line.

>>382458910
Funny enough, those guardian shrines were more shit than some of the generated ones, and lasted a shorter amount of time.

You just sound like a retarded, shit-eating fanboy. Most people are over Zelda already, only die hard Switch fags are still trying to make it relevant because the Switch has no other notable games.

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>>382459021
>In fact, BOTW wont even win nearly as many GOTY awards as say Witcher 3.
Because other Nintendo games such as Mario and Xenoblade 2 (and maybe Persona 5) will steal them.

There was fucking nothing else when Witcher 3 came out except another 20 FPS Souls rehash and an unplayable, horrible Fallout.

>>382459102
Yup, its probably one of my least favorite Zelda games. It doesn't have anything good from a gameplay perspective and doesnt feed the player with anything enjoyable most of the time.

>critize the game and point out the many flaws it has
>W-WELL ITS GONNA WIN ALL THE AWARDS SO SHUT UP
What a childish group of people

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>>382459179
>MOST PEOPLE ARE OVER IT
>can't stop shitposting about Zelda 24/7
>THE PEOPLE WHO POST POSITIVE THINGS DON'T COUNT

Eh.

>>382459225
All I hear are excuses. Fallout is more popular than 3D Mario.

>>382459294
kek. just stop posting, man. it's sad.

>>382459356
How is this shitposting? Are you a fucking moron?
I don't even spend all day here like you. I'm glad to know more people dislike it as I do. I've discussed the game countless times with other people that played it, once the initial hype died, a lot of people thought it was good at best.

Even people are selling their Switches after beating it.

>>382459225
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/utter%20shit%20game/
Imagine being so butthurt after BB after all this time

>>382459520
It's the same Nintendo fanboy that posts 24/7 on this board. He's also scared of real conversations because it can't hide his anonymity. He's a beta Nintendo loser.

>>382459225
You could say the same thing about this year. Persona 5/Yakuza 0 are maybe the only contender besides Mario and the P5 honeymoon seems to be ending for most people and its kinda a disappointment for how long it took to release.

The only other thing that could possibly contend this year is Assassins Creed and itll need to be an objective 9.5/10 and still need heavy shilling to cannabalize awards.

>>382459520
Holy shit, he posted a webm (two clicks) four times?

He must be a level 30 Aspy.

>>382459628
I like how you defend samefag yourself by pretending to be other people.
It's hilarious.

>>382459628
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/beautiful%20colors/
Considering he's the same person who brings BB out of nowhere while praising BOTW i'd assume he's just salty not everyone can enjoy his Ubisoft game

>>382459814
>>382459779
Get a room, faggots

>>382459607
No, you couldn't and you just explain why yourself. This year there is Mario which could get the most GotY awards and maybe even a higher Metacritic than Zelda. There is Xenoblade 2 which, if it actually lives up to the first game, could get a lot of awards as well, especially in specific categories such as music, story or "RPG", same as Persona 5.

And of course also AssCreed for the turbo casuals.

Meanwhile everyone agreed Fallout 4 is a blunder and Bloodborne was way too niche and also just another rehash.

>>382459814
You are literally responding to the same guy. All these named images are him. He spends all day doing this for anything Nintendo.

>>382459875
y u so mad

>>382456307
That's because it's not true 60 FPS, half of the frames were interpolated

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>>382459814
This. Fuck Zelda. What we want is corridors, NOT being able to climb anything, not even jump over fences, no, a straight red line. This is what we want. And instead of dungeons and physics we only want one thing; combat. And this combat should always consist of nothing else but target enemy (stolen from Zelda but whatever, fuck Zelda), tilt stick to right or left, then press 30 frames dodge button when enemy attacks and attack enemy twice. Repeat.

Zelda is not even a real game, lol.

>>382459875
No, Zelda fans are losers.

>>382459980
why you so gay?

you and your butt buddy are embarassing. Most people don't wanna see faggot suck each others dick

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>muh GotY awards

You can tell a casual NeoGAF tourist just entered the thread. Same as all the Souls drones.

Can we talk about open worlds again?

>>382459889
>Meanwhile everyone agreed
/v/ is not everyone my dear friend
>FO4 was a blunder
>BB is another rehash
Lying on the internet is bad even while being anonymous

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>TW3, H:ZD, Far Cry 4 are procedurally generated
What's with the sudden increase in shitposting for Nintendo?
>someone actually took time out of their day to create such dumb bullshit like this

>>382460182
yep still mad

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>>382460256
>/v/ is not everyone my dear friend
Literally even NeoGAF fags who eat up shit made 20 anti Fallout 4 threads a day.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185410478&postcount=3197

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=191386097&postcount=342

If Zelda gets less awards than Witcher 3, the only reason is because there are more contenders. BotW had way more hype on the internet than Witcher 3 could even dream of with ridiculous traffic on Twitch and Youtube thanks to it.

>>382460327
How about you pose an actual argument against the picture and that's from where we try to help you?

>>382460119
You have some serious autism. You really need a good punch to the face.

I like Breath of the Wild, but once the next Zelda comes out, I don't think anybody is gonna go back and replay BoTW. This was their first attempt at a sand

box game and the next one will definitely blow BoTW out of the water especially now they they know that everybody wants traditional dungeons back

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>>382460783
>wants to punch someone in the face over video games and because he can't put his thoughts into words

Nigger or antifa?

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>>382460625
I did, by implying that the statement that Far Cry 4, H:ZD and TW3 are procedurally generated is false and calling out OP for shitposting. Maybe you should seek some help, OP. Not understanding implied speech is a sign of autism.

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>>382460520
>actually linking to neogaf
>so desperate he believes what neogaf thinks matters now

>>382449868
Just leaving this here

http://thegaymer.com/nintendo/breath-wild-appeals-gaymers-fem-link/

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>>382460931
They are procedurally generated to a huge extent, though. They don't give a fuck where they put something and there is basically no concept at all for anything. Just computergenerated land masses.

>>382461027
>>382460256
>"what /v/ thinks doesn't matter, /v/ isn't the world!"
>link a forum that's the complete opposite of /v/
>"what those people think doesn't matter either!"

At one point you should just realize you are full of shit and stop posting.

Everyone who knows anything about Fallout knows how fucking horrible and overrated 4 was. Only the most casual of casuals gave it some shitty awards.

>>382458938
you're literally saying that the only reason botw has interesting things is to keep the game from feeling empty. Do you not have a basic understanding of how level design works?

>>382460931
>I know more than the developers

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/12/12/horizon-zero-dawn-ps4-will-harness-procedural-tech-to-render-environment/

Guess why all those open world games are glitchy as fuck despite, oh right, Zelda and Xenoblade, which is also praised and acknowledged by Ubisoft, CDPR etc.

>>382460783
You're clearly the autist if you can't get any sort of sarcasm out of that

>>382460872
*sandbox

Fuck

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>>382461065
Also everything on MGS5 except the outposts.

>>382449739
They've been doing open world since Zelda 1 you faggot.

>>382461065
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/generic%20tree/
wew that guy is right, you do have autism

>>382461065
>guys, I found an out of place object, this is proof!
Sure thing, retard.
http://stevivor.com/news/cd-projekt-red-the-world-of-the-witcher-3-is-not-procedurally-generated/
Far Cry 4 uses procedural generation for pop up side quests, and H:ZD uses procedural generation for trees n' shit. None of them use it for Quests or points of interest etc.

>>382461190
>he takes neogaf word seriously
>he calls awards shitty even though people were rubbing in how 'zelda is going to win all of them this year'
we're done here, if you value neogaf word so much maybe you should go back there

>>382461381
>autism
>not the greatest thing there is and the only weapon we have against a totalitarian-progressive governments feeding us lies

>>382453943
Well, since Dead Space 3 needed 5 million, I don't think 2 million for the biggest game across 2 consoles is particularly unrealistic.

>>382461508
>being proud of having autism
only on /v/

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>>382461445
>H:ZD uses procedural generation for trees n' shit.
That's what I said. They basically formed a huge land mass and what they filled it with is 90% generic.

You have glitches everywhere even after 40 patches, floating grass meshes, trees on rocks, just empty locations with nothing but bandit hideouts.

Zelda is pretty empty too and the Koroks are an insult to the level designers but you can clearly see that the world is handcrafted at least.

>>382461381
Cool argument.

>>382449739
>never did 3d open worlds
kill yourself retard

>>382461745
When did Nintendo do 3D open worlds before?

>>382461508
>a bunch of indifferent mumbling weirdos who are super focused on trains makes up for all the emotionally stunted violent wranglees who can't even be trusted with a bird

>>382453943
That is two million if you're using English style.

>>382459021
You literally can't say one single positive thing about it. Look how mad this faggot autist is that BotW is an enjoyable game.

>>382461808
Wind Waker

>>382461731
Not having terrain glitch is not a sign of handcraft-made terrain. The terrain in The Witcher is simply more complex.

>>382461995
Just masking loading times with (literal) emptiness. It's just many zones.

And even if we grant you this game, it's just one game.

>>382461731
>that's what I said!
No it isnt, you fucking liar, trying to wiggle your way out of your own shit. You've been implying the whole game is procedurally generated and that's why they're boring when compared to grorious nippon Breathe of Tha Wirdu. H:ZD has a set world with set quests, areas, points of interest, side quests etc. The only thing procedrually generated is when you're traveling from point A to point B, the treeline may be different, what vegetation grows around the rivers may be different, and wildlife groupings will be different. That's it. That's not the same as staking a claim in "Points of interest in a fully handcrafted and a procedurally generated open world" with H:ZD, TW3 and Far Cry 4 being the implied "procedurally generated open world" games.

>>382459514
>my anecdote is fact

Look at this assblasted kid.

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>>382461731
Oh god even real life is full of glitches!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqqYbWuoVXI

But seriously, why do you post the same handful of webms every time? Are you this triggered by TW3?

>>382462106
STALKER is just like that and is still considered as an open world game

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>>382462092
>more complex
>some random holes in the ground every teenager can do with free 3D software

>>382462128
>You've been implying the whole game is procedurally generated
Not what anyone ever said. Not reading strawman posts.

However, there is clearly a bigger chunk of the open world being generic and not having any thoughts put into it in Witcher, Horizon, MGS, Fallout, Skyrim, Far Cry and so on and so on than in Zelda and definitely Xenoblade.

If you deny this, you are a retard.

Stop defending western laziness.

>>382462317
>But seriously, why do you post the same handful of webms every time? Are you this triggered by TW3?
It's called an argument. I love Witcher.

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>>382449868
XBX has the SUPERIOR man though.

>>382453646
>nintendo does generic open world game

Top kek. Keep living in denial.

>>382462427
>If you deny my broad and sweeping claims, then you are wrong
Nice way of attempting to stack the cards in your favor there, dipshit. Unfortunately all I have to do when you provide ultimatums like that is disprove one thing and it all falls apart. And someone already did it for me.
>>382461445

>>382455235
so you're saying even the areas that look empty have interesting things hidden?!

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>>382462358
Wind Waker isn't really open world anyway since there is a red line and path you can't and aren't allowed to deciate from half the game. This not being the case is a key indicator for open world games (which still don't have a definitive defnition, though).

Xenoblade X and BotW are pretty much Nintendo's first real 3D open world games. Xenoblade 2 will presumably be multi-region like Witcher 3 and the original Xenoblade game (which is actually what I prefer for fantasy games anyway).

>>382453958
>cutting - edge
>draw-distance worse than skyrim

>>382459514
Kill yourself moron.

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>>382462727
Yeah, it's just a claim.

And we all enjoyed exploring that 100% empty sea that somehow was even emptier than Wind Waker's and all those empty mountains in Skellige so much, right?

>>382462736
>Xenoblade X and BotW
the fact that you dont consider XBC an open world game makes me realize how you dont know what you're talking about

>>382462856
There are literally branches clipping through 90% the little houses you can find in the world when it's a little bit windy. How can anyone believe this game is not completely generic?

>>382461274
Did you even read your own article? Or did you jsut see the headliner and jumped to conclusions?
https://www.slideshare.net/guerrillagames/gpubased-procedural-placement-in-horizon-zero-dawn
The GPU based procedural generation is for trees and bushes and roads and rivers and wildlife etc. Not for quests, cities, set areas such as old ruins, actual landscape. What it does is populate the areas between Point A and Point B with vegetation and wild life and pathways.

>>382456265
That's Hyrule Field. Or more accurately, it's a tiny, tiny part of Hyrule Field. Its a FIELD.

It's been a staple of the Zelda sereis since OoT as a place to just let players free gallop around on their.

>>382462920
Open world means you can traverse the whole thing without loading screens. The first Xenoblade consists of several segmented regions. The regions are quite large, but they're still segmented and have loading screens between them.
YOU don't know what you're talking about.

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>>382462920
The first game? Literally doesn't even meet half the criteria for open world/sandbox games. It's linear, has walls (also loading barriers everywhere) blocking you until you have killed a certain boss in an area/pushed on the story to a certain point, can't even scale any of the mountains around you that function as a game world boundary and there isn't even any actual fast travel entity such as mounts or vehicles.

It's multi-region open world if anything (Kingdoms of Amalur, Witcher 3) if anything. Probably not even that, though.

>>382463079
>Did you even read your own article? Or did you jsut see the headliner and jumped to conclusions?
New to /v/? fanboys just use the headline and give two fucks about what it really says in the article

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>>382462856
>h-hey don't pay attention to that link
>l-look at this w-webm instead
>pls guys, don't
Did we play the same game? Or did you just forget the quests that required you to go treasure hunting and monster hunting out at sea. Or how the Skellige mountains had monasteries and treasures and shit all around and even bandit encampments with forts and shit.

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>>382463079
>The GPU based procedural generation is for trees and bushes and roads and rivers and wildlife e
That's exactly waht this thread is about.

>>382463219
Where did this definition come from? By that definition, GTA III, the most influential open world game ever made, is not open world

>>382462856
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/after%2040%20patches/
What sort of mental illness do you have?

>>382463532
Procedurally generated would mean the WHOLE map is randomly generated when you start a new game

>>382462770
Here's your reply, you've earned it champ!

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>>382463497
>Did we play the same game? Or did you just forget the quests that required you to go treasure hunting and monster hunting out at sea.
Those generic chests with shit weapons and pointless money and killing generic dronwers you can find anywhere else on land? How does this make the generic, empty attempt of a sea any better?

I still can't believe there isn't one interesting smaller island to discover and not ONE, not even ONE SINGLE big sea monster to fight or fucking mermaids or anything.

And there even exist real mermaids in Witcher.

>>382463532
No, it's not. Having a system that alters the inbetween is not the same as claiming that the entire game is procedurally generated and therefore inferior. No Mans Sky would be an example of what OP and you are shitposting about. Not TW3, Far Cry 4 and H:ZD.

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>>382463726
>Procedurally generated would mean the WHOLE map is randomly generated when you start a new game
No, it doesn't. Procedurally generated elements have appeared in almost all western open world games to date. Most obvious contenders are Elder Scrolls, Just Cause etc.

I mean, it's quite obvious people didn't do this per hand, right? And you actually posted sources yourself that say vegetation is generic in those games.

>>382463769
>moving the goalposts
No one ever said they were good. You're the one who said "100% empty sea". Grow a fucking spine and stand by your words.

>I still can't believe
Well, believe it retard. Not every game is going to match your pre-conceived head cannon. So what if there's no big monster fight. Having a big monster fight does not make a game inherently better.

>no mermaids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AjUrsY8mxM

This is what is annoying about retards like you. TW3 has it's issues. But because of faggots like you spewing the same webms with the same weaseling bullshit arguments over and over, you can't discuss those issues without being thrown into the same camp as you. So it's either get thrown in with the shitposters, or defend a game you may not have enjoyed as much.

>>382463806
No one said any of the games are entirely generic. Clearly huge chunks are, though.

It's kinda weird to me how people defend the generic, empty open world meme now.

>>382464268
The whole procedurally generated thing refers to making each new game map a different thing, making grass appear on some areas on the map, just like no one calls GTA games procedurally generated because there's different cars on the streets at any time given

>>382464273
>No one ever said they were good. You're the one who said "100% empty sea". Grow a fucking spine and stand by your words.
But it is 100% empty and doesn't even have any interesting small island or interesting stuff underwater or unique creatures you can discover? That's, like, a literal fact.

Those monsters in the video are generic sirenes, not good mermaids like Sh'eenaz for instance. You can't talk to them, there are no complex quests consisting any of (which the first trailer made it seem like), nothing. Just random mobs you can also find on land.

>>382464364
Plenty of posters have. The whole point of OPs thread was a claim that the games are entirely procedurally generated. People aren't defending a "meme", they're disputing straight up lies.
>generic
Do you even know what that word means? I'll give you a hint, it's not shorthand for generated.

>That W3 tree area
>Accidentally sequence break myself there ahead of time
>Incredibly confused by everything, no NPC's or anything, invisible walls everywhere.

That was odd!

>>382464679
>But it is 100% empty
That's not a "literal fact", that's false. Something being there as in treasure and enemies and small islands with side quests (such as getting the Wolf Witcher gear which leads you to a small island protected by monsters with backstories) means it is not "100%" empty. Does it mean it's good? no. But not empty like you flip flop around on.

>you can't talk to them
>there's no complex quests with them
So your complaint is that your headcannon doesn't match up with the game and therefore it's the games fault. Good to know you're a dumbass who judges things based on what you think it should be, and not on the merits of what it actually is.

>points of interest in other games
>clear landmarks with distinct appearances from far away

>"points of interest" in BotW
>vague mountain tops and landmarks that are barely identifiable from a distance

Why do Zeldafags have to be so obtuse?

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>>382464674
They literally procedurally generated whole islands for Just Cause and you want to make me believe they didn't procedurally generate those empty, shitty forests in Witcher with trees on rocks and grass in the air.

That's quite funny. To be honest, it doesn't even matter. Would be even worse if they actually did this per hand. It's horrible, this is the point. And it certainly isn't done on the basis of concept arts versus the handcrafted design you can see in Xenoblade.

>>382465268
This, fuck Zelda fans.

>>382465358
>I don't believe devs can be lazy because of Just Cause
The fuck are you talking about? Do you have sauce for any of your claims? How is it hard to believe that devs can get lazy in a world where Train NPC's existed?

>>382454482
This is actually something we need to talk about. Namely in relation to why third parties don't port any meaningful content to Nintendo consoles, even when it would make sense.

It's because Nintendo would make money off of each unit sold. And as a result, the thirds would eventually not be able to compete. They know they can't compete with Nintendo's brands and the quality of their games, and staying off of Nintendo hardware is their plan to keep themselves relevant.

>>382465726
>the consoles with the most shovelware has too high of expectations and that's why there's no third party support
>and Nintendo makes money off of the sales
So, do Microsoft and Sony not make money off of third party sales on their platform?

>>382456374
>>382456469
>>382457164
>>382457968
>>382458113
>>382463217
>DEFENSE FORCE ASSEMBLE

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>zelda did open world best

No they didn't. They did the Mattel version of making an open world. It's funny however that the one genre to do open world right was onl tech much more limited than today's standards.

Btw, most zeldas were open world. So you're implying Botw was better than all the past zeldas.

>>382460215
I hope the transition from titan to titan isn't as janked as I fear it's gonna be after that interview Takahashi did where he said "We COULD have made the transition seemless, but we didn't"

>>382465997
>waaah why won't anyone let me make this retarded argument