There is no denying that The Witcher 3 is one of the best games

>>382448773
>hate Poland
>avoid witcher like the plague and shit on it constantly
>decide to pirate it cuz bored
>play through the whole game and DLCs
>end up buying the game and playing it again
You're right, no game comes even close. I mean, I almost even don't hate poland anymore.

>>382449076
>I almost even don't hate poland anymore.
Whoa whoa whoa, hold on let's not lose our heads here.

>>382448773
it's just another AAA movie game with no gameplay bro

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>>382449553
That's all we have now, bro

>>382448773
I was to exhausted to play the dlcs after finishing the story. The combat got old hella quick. Signs are useless. Oils are OK if you don't mind spending hours chasing down recipes. Crossbow is useless except for shooting shit out of the air. Bombs are useless. Only upgrades in signs that are good are the initial 3 in axii for dialogue. Horse riding is shit ( lol they actually make you race ), swimming is shit. This game literally piggy backs on the stories, characters, and graphics. Over r8d imo. Maybe I just don't like rpgs

>>382448773
It has glaring flaws, but it's so well executed and immersive otherwise that it's definitely a 9/10.
Also, alternative movement on is a must.

>>382449789
Combat is mediocre (death march spices it up enough for my tastes) and swimming is terrible. Otherwise, I disagree.

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>>382449686
step aside

>>382449960
>implying

Why do witcher threads attract shills for literally who games?

>>382449960
not out yet but i am gettin pretty hype
this and original sin 2

>>382449945
>complaining about the most obscure shit
>claims game isnt great

if you have to nitpick the smallest of issues in this game it shows how good it is.

>>382448773
>3

I actively dislike 3 after enjoying 1 so much. Even 2 was alright but 3 has the worst most boring beginning ever like fuck.

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>>382448773
I guess if the only other games you've played are Skyrim and Dragon age. From thr mery sue characters, to the reskinned enemies, to the attrocious quest design and complete absence of exploration, TW3 is just so mediocre.

I'm not trying to troll or bait replies but I hate the gameplay in Witcher. Coming from Twilight Princess HD where the movement was so responsive, even if the combat in that game is
mostly just mashing B.

>>382449789
Something I didn't give tw3 credit for are the amazing quest lines main/side/contracts that are really thought out and unique (cave of dreams quest for instance). I just can't look past the repetitive/clunky gameplay. I'm not a huge fan of rpgs but damn doing some of the most simple shit in this game was infuriating

>>382448773

It has good qualities, but it overwhelmed me with so many menus and skill tree menus and crafting systems, a card game, and map systems and all of this shit that you have to look at, and I would rather have a game where you can just equip gear and go in there and fight shit without putting so much thought into everything

I think Skyrim was actually better, though Witcher did a few things better like acting/animation

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>>382448773
good man

>>382450849
You take the good with the bad. It is like how super mario bros games are slow, sonic games are too fast, sega games are all bugged as hell, microsoft only produces shitty games, etc.

>300 hours of modern MMO breadcrumbs gameplay
>Batman detective mode quests follow the red fart trail
>terrible weightless fidget spinner combat
>story centered around teleporting Princess Mary Sue
It's got great production value and bang for your buck, but the gameplay is a solid 6/10 IMO.

GERALT OF FUCKING 4CHAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-6_tWPG8tE

>>382451842
EXACTLY. Story and quests are fun but the gameplay is so overlooked and terrible. I wonder how it would be if it released in 2016

>>382448773
Calling it one of the best is equal in stupidity to calling it a bad game. It's a mediocre, formulaic open-world game with nothing innovative or interesting present in its design.

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It's a good game, but I'm sick of people pretending it's the second coming of Chris. It's really not that phenomenal at all.

>>382452074
>>382451842
Witcher 1 gameplay is not so steller you dumb fucks.
Go and play it then you can come back and complain about it when this franchise has always been like that.

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>>382451842
>>terrible weightless fidget spinner combat

>>382450107
>combat is now the most obscure shit in aaa games

holy shit

also, why is people hyped for cyberpunk? its going to be the same shit but with futuristic crap

>>382450107
I love the game, I can just acknowledge those flaws. I dread going into water.

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>Horrible gameplay

>>382450849
Turn on alternative movement. It's mandatory imo.

combat is boring, ill play it when mods fix the combat

>>382452295
>Witcher 1 gameplay is not so steller you dumb fucks

IMHO it's much more solid than 3's.

>>382448773
it's an alright flick

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>>382452496

it was, it did, it was horrible gameplay

It sucked dick

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>>382452648
Yeah sure anon, whatever you say.

>>382448773
The main MAIN quest is rather weak, the le "ancient evil blah blah", but the quests leading to it, the side quests and the world are superb.

Even if the combat is "bad", the questing and travelling is fun.

Awesome dialog, great graphics, good music, great characters.

>>382452648
>Witcher 1's gameplay is better than 3's

AHHAHA, just stop. you are being so contrarian it's cringy.

>>382452254
Honestly better than idiots claiming Dark Souls/BB to be fantastic games. I never understood how people could have such a shit taste in videogames.

>>382452741

Sorry you don't know how opinions work.

I'm curious what people who say witcher has bad gameplay consider good gameplay.

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>>382448773
I do. Witchers 1 and 3 were terrible. Witcher 2 was okay. I believed the hype and got burnt.

>>382452823

>better

I said more solid,. Learn to read you idiot.

>>382448773
Bad gameplay = bad game. Go read a book faggot

>>382452850

Games where you don't twirl around like a retard.

>>382452850
Dark Souls
BloodBorne
Dragon's Dogma

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>>382452850
Nier: Automata

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>>382453050
I like this bait

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>>382452895
I do. Witchers 1

>>382452836
I know how they work, and I am disregarding yours.

>>382453209

>disregarding yours
>by regarding it

good job

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Reminder that Witcher 3 was an enormous labor of love

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>>382453178
I'm sure you do, witcherdrone.

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>>382452895
>Witchers 1

>>382452850
Soulsbourne
horizon 0 dawn
Red dead(TAKE NOTES ON HORSE RIDING CDPRED KEKS )
metal gear

Triss or yen and why

>calling witcher a good game is bait now
I didn't expect this.

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>>382453158

/thread

Westerners can't into combat to save their lives.

>>382453610
This is /v/, expect everything newfag.

>>382453020
Great answer, retard.
>>382453050
>>382453158
>>382453471
>hate witcher's mash x to win combat
>post mash x to win combat games
Am I being trolled, what's going on?

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As always the devil may cry kiddies butthurt about proper turn based rpg combat.

>>382453702
/v/ hasn't been what you're acting like it is in years.

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>>382453741

I don't even know if I can say you tried.

>>382453826
>Witcher
>proper turn-based RPG combat
uh

Most people hate the combat because it's controlled like a hack and slash game, but if you go into it like a hack and slash game you're going to get absolutely destroyed. It's all about timing, positioning and tactical use of signs, bombs and potions. So when retards go into the game spamming the fast attack button and get repeatedly raped by groups of enemies and then come on /v/ to complain the combat is terrible, I just sit here and laugh my ass off.

Only valid complaint about The Witcher 3 is that movement and how it feels needs to be be improved. It either feels unresponsive or or way too ADHD, but those problems disappear during combat.

Another common criticism is how bad the quests are, but what people don't realise is that "Witcher Senses" are literally the best way you can actually lead a player through a quest in a world as open and expansive as The Witcher and often, you don't HAVE to use them at all.

The difference between a game like Skyrim and The Witcher is that in The Witcher 3, the quests are designed so that you can actually complete them SOLELY based on the dialogue of NPCs and following the hints they give you. The minimap that tells you where to go was clearly added afterwards to make it easier on casual players, but if you turn the minimap off you can not only follow the quests just as validly based on following directions and such alone, but you also spend much more time looking at the world itself and enjoying the game for what it is. Witcher sense is included because of how big the world is - and also because it highlights, for players who are too lazy to go without it - shit that you would NEVER take the time to spot. But that's the thing - those footprints you follow during that quest? They are actually there. You can track something through the world without using them. The Witcher Senses are there to make it easier for lazy people, so you only have yourselves to blame.

It's not perfect but it's far better than most other games

>>382453853
People just come here to shitpost, if you didn't knew this you are new, stop damage controlling pretending you aren't (unless you are another anon, still retarded both of you though.)

Main story was terrible
Most characters sucked
Sidequests were a mixed bag of best in the franchise and completely awful
Combat was boring bootleg dark souls
Witcher simulator features the weakest in the entire series
Good atmosphere
Graphics usually fantastic, but with some glaringly out of place PS2 tier stuff like half of Novigrad
Ubisoft open world

It was pretty average, worst in the series for me.

>>382453741
Literally not one of those games are smash x to win games. Off yourself cuck

>>382453889
????????

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>>382453741
Witchercucks are so delusional.

>>382449789
The only way I've played the game is putting points in Signs because I played W1 and W2 the other ways. Signs were broken on Death March except for certain fights. Maybe it was just as easy if you leveled the swordsmanship stuff, but after a certain point the Igni sign would just ignite enemies, doing like percent health damage as they just stood around trying to put themselves out. And using Aard, I think that's the force push one, would just down entire mobs of people around you in a full 360 so you could walk over and just coup de grace them.

I think the game breaks itself in half no matter what path you pursue.

>>382453992
>>382454023
Oh, I get it, you haven't played those games, gotcha.

Holy fuck the bait is too much in this thread.

>>382453939
If you want my advice, /v/.

Get rid of the minimap. It improves the game, exploring and questing so much. If you really need to look at where to go, just open your fucking menu and look at the world map.

For the BEST experience, get the mod FriendlyHUD and configure it so that there's no mini-map and that a Skyrim style compass comes up when you hold the Witcher Sense button. Adding quest markers to that compass is optional, but seeing the directions helps a fuck ton in navigation.

And finally, I would challenge any of you to propose a better alternate solution to leading players through quests in a large, open world containing tons of hidden caves and realistic world design than the "witcher sense" feature, a world that you would never navigate without taking serious time to explore or skills with navigation and a map.

>>382453158
You call this garbage good combat? Jesus christ.

I mean, Witcher 3 combat is not awesome, but it's pretty good. But I guess you fags prefer gay, over-flashy japanese quadruple jumping and swinging mountains like sticks.

>inb4 fun
Okay, I don't want to argue whether it can be called fun or not. For me it's not, for you it might. I admit, it's just not my kind of stuff. I'd take Witcher 3's combat (which is a bit too flashy anyway) over this faggy power-fantasy fuck physics, fuck logic, fuck cohesion, and fuck practicality of attacks Jackie Chan shit. It's clowny for me.

But I understand you might like it. What pisses me off is that I never ever even once seen anyone on /v/ who doesn't like Witcher 3 actually admitting that it just doesn't fir their tastes. They always say it's shit, implying it is objectively poorly designed, while it's a great game that is just not their kind of "fun".

>>382453158
Except you play most of the game as a whiny bitch with shit combat
>but muh hacking
>muh dodge-heavy

>>382453939

I think the hate comes from the combat being absolutely boring. You don't even need to use signs most of the time because it's a cake-walk.

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>>382454321
>Witcher 3 combat is not awesome, but it's pretty good

Oh, the delusion.

>>382454321
>judging combat based on what it looks like rather than the depth it offers

Witchers

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>>382454321
>I mean, Witcher 3 combat is not awesome, but it's pretty good
>s-stupid weeb haha


this desperation though

>>382454452
The hate comes from the Witcher series becoming popular

>WAAAH IF IT'S NOT DARK SOULS IT'S LITERALLY SHIT

>>382448773
the only game i one multiple copies one for ps4 and my pc love it 10/10

If you want to compare Witcher's combat to a Japanese game, then compare it to FFXV. Both extremely mediocre.

>>382454562

Nah people have been shitting on the combat since the first game.

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>In all of /v/'s time shitposting about and hating The Witcher 3, not one person here has ever posted a valid, interesting negative critique of the game that actually explains why they dislike certain elements of it.
>Instead it's always really superficial shit like "lol the combat sucks" or "lol mini-map and withcer senses make quests really easy" without any understanding of why those systems are designed the way they are and how they work together with the rest of the game.

Come on /v/. If you're going to call a game terrible, at least fucking explain why without just resorting to the tactics of contrarian faggots.

>>382454452
>plays on easiest difficulty
>complains combat is too easy.

Even on story and sword, the combat is challenging enough that you at least have to think about what you're doing.

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>>382454562
>>WAAAH IF IT'S NOT DARK SOULS IT'S LITERALLY SHIT

Except people also use Dragon's Dogma (which is as far from Dark Souls as you can get) as an example of better combat mechanics.

It's time for you to make peace with the fact that The Shitter 3 has bad combat.

>>382454652

>legitimate complains about the combat don't count because I said so

>>382454652
>2 years later
>/v/ is still bitching about a game
That's how you know it's good

>>382454829
>muh weabo games
everi tim

>>382454652
If you actually want to discuss games with reason or logic you're definitely gonna have to go elsewhere.

>>382454895

man that must mean TLoU is one of the best games ever made then

>>382454652
well why weren't the quests as interestingly designed as in TW2 as you imply in your second statement

>>382450021
>Pillars of Eternity is literally who
>He doesn't know what Obsidian Entertainment is

>>382454892
What legitimate complaints? Literally where are they? I have never seen a single one.

Saying "it's shit because I said so" is not a legitimate complaint.

>>382453265
Do you know what the word disregard means?

>>382454980
Except everyone stopped talking about TLoU years ago.

Witcher 3 is fantastic up until Novigrad

Then it turns to absolute turd and never recovers

Ciri is a shit mary sue

>>382454321
bingo couldn't have said better my self but you will just get trigger weaboos trying to defend there glorious nipo

>>382454904
>some weebshit game has better combat than the multimillion, International effort that was TW3

How can witcherdrones live with themselves?

>>382454980
No one talks about TLoU

>>382455090

Nope, there have been several threads lately. It never really stopped.

>>382454458
>Look! I found a time when the game bugged out so I'm right!

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>>382454652
>The Witcher 3 wins the Doritos Pope ribbon of excellence
>meanwhile Fallout 4 takes home the BAFTA

>>382454652

Maybe if people didn't make threads like these proclaiming OMG BEST GAME EVAR PROVE ME WRONG bait threads, you might get some discussion going.

>>382455191
>someone makes a thread after a couple weeks
>it gets a dozen posts before falling off the board

Meanwhile Witcher 3 and BotW are getting threads talking about how they're shit months and years after they came out

>>382455039
They are interestingly designed though.

Seriously anon, try it. Turn off your mini-map, don't touch the Witcher Senses button and go out and do a quest.

You will actually be able to do it. The dialogue, hints and directions given are enough to do it without needing to follow a glowing breadcrumb trail or a yellow circle on your map.

You can actually find the tracks (though they're really fucking hard to find in such a large world, hence why Witcher Sense was included in the fucking first place) and you can follow the clues through right to the fucking end.

The only time you NEED to touch Witcher Sense is to tell the game to progress sometimes when you find an important clue (which I admit is a bit dumb, but it's not a big deal).

Then you can come back and tell me the quests are badly designed and that Witcher Senses and mini-map aren't just a superficial add-on late in development to make the game easier for casual players who don't want to spend hours looking for physical tracks in a massive open world.

>>382455345
>Literally Skyrim with guns

>>382455401
Doesn't change that most of the sidequests are poorly written.

Don't even get me started on the monster hunting shit, which is the exact same process every single time.

>>382455345
Fallout 4 is an actual example of a badly designed piece of shit.

The Witcher 3 is an example of something that is actually well designed.

>>382455090
Haha, sure, my man. Sure.

I used to regularly post in every single TLoU thread:
>No one will even remember this game in a week!
>No one will even remember this game in a month!
>No one will even remember this game in a year!
>No one will even remember this game in two years!
>No one will even remember this game in three years!

But then I got really bored of it when threads still went on. Plus, it felt like cheating since a sequel was officially announced last year, so more threads about the original began to pop up. Watching people squirm because they were so sure a cinematic walking game wouldn't be cared about in the near future is still fucking comedy gold to this day.

I think my favorite one was someone saying that because people wouldn't talk about it 20 years in the future, that it couldn't really be called a good game.

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>>382455254
The Witcher 3 sure seems to get "bugged" often. Must be a feature.

>>382450329
Dragon Age origins > the whole witcher trilogy

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>>382453158
>juggling
>good combat

>>382454652
>without any understanding of why those systems are designed the way they are and how they work together with the rest of the game.
yelling laughter

so shit combat is a design choice because it fits with the rest of the game

>>382455474
You mean just like how hunting is in real life?

>decide to hunt something
>follow tracks to find it
>kill it
>take back the trophy and gains

Wow. What the fuck do you want hunting quests to be? Shakespearean-scale plots that exist in a labyrinth of genius story-telling where every single time you walk past a tree the narrative changes with such superb gratification and insight that it changes your fucking life?

Come on dude.

TW3 hunting quests are exactly what they are and should fucking be.
>Monster is harming people.
>People hire Witcher to kill it.
>Witcher investigates, tracks and then kills the monster.
>Gets paid.

Not mentioning the fact that hunting quests often do have twists and turns and interesting little plots beyond what they need to have.

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>>382455670

>twirling around
>good combat

>>382455474
>poorly written
I love nebulous, cop-out answers like this

>>382455675
>so shit combat is a design choice because it fits with the rest of the game

You're doing it again, faggot.

Why is it shit?

You can't just say "LOL it's shit" and expect anyone to take you seriously if you don't even fucking explain why, you moron.

>>382455798
The combat is actually a good balance between how it's described in the Witcher books, realistic sword play and game mechanics.

Witchers twirl a lot dude.

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>>382455416
>>382455485
Whats that? I can't hear you over the highly accredited award ceremony. Don't you have some Mountain Dew commercials to be watching?

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>th-the witcher 3 has bad gameplay!!!
oh really? ok, lets go over the gameplay and see how """""bad"""" it is
The gameplay is simple for anyone to play, but allows you to master it by learning all its mechanics
infact, the game has TONS of mechanics to the combat including but not limited to
-signs that allow you to mix and match and also allow players who read up on monsters an easier was to beat them
-Oils which again allow people who read up on monsters to have an easier time
-Side stepping, rolling, and blocking which allow you to again mix and match when in combat, you have to use all three to actually play on the harder difficulty's
and all of these things is exactly what a witcher would have to do, which means you are DIRECTLY ROLE PLAYING AS GERALT
The gameplay allows both casuals and hardcore players to have fun
people who think the witcher 3 has bad combat are the same people who praise shitty wall of text games and simply dont like it when a game can be played by people who are not other neck bearded NEETS

>>382455660
>look mommy, a second webm which shows a bug, the whole game must be bugged!
>wait, it was goty and got hundreds of perfect scores because haveing two bugs doesn't mean the game is bad
>MOMMY MAKE THE MEAN ANONS STOP

>>382456067
Fucking this.

>>382455741
Hunting in real life is repetitive and boring apart from the thrill of the kill which doesn't translate into vidya, so it should be the same in witcher?

How about slicing the amount monster hunting quests in half, and instead of having them all be the same copypasted shit, expand a bit on the story around the monster problem? Maybe not have them all be as straightforward?

This is a problem overall in the game I feel. Sidequests are probably the most hit or miss out of any RPG I've ever played, and it takes me out of the experience so damn hard. You're thrown from a great quest with interesting characters and a satisfying plot into some turd the lead writers 9 year old kid shat out with no internal consistency.

It feels like they went for a quantity above quality approach. I also hated the main quest, it felt generic and boring with very few high notes, but that's probably because I'm tired of the chosen wonderhuman saves the world shit.

All in all it was a mediocre experience and took me a very, very long time to finish.

When people say the combat is bad, I think they just mean it looks stupid visually.

That's just my take on all this shitposting.

>>382456387
I think it's because it's essentially a clunky, bad Dark Souls, which is grating after playing the Souls games. That and the balance being completely fucked, with several skills in every tree being so broken death march doesn't pose any challenge what so ever beyond the early game

>>382448773
I'm tired of pointing out all the flaws with this game.

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>>382456067
>despite the core mechanics being mind numbingly shallow TW3 does infact have good combat because it allows you to mix and match hundreds of different buffs on your character

WOW must have the best combat mechanics of all time then.

>>382448773
True statement, OP. But you're going to get shitposted to oblivion because you don't like pedoshit or nintendo games.

>>382456067
>>382456237

No need to samefag.

>>382456067
playing on death march
so this!

>>382448773
I played it twice and I think its a mediocre game at best. Its a good experience but as a video game it fails on every single thing. Its not worth experiencing for the gameplay.

>>382448773
>terrible gameplay
>nothing happens : the plot
>boring characters
>boring quests
>boring dialogue

Its a 5/10

I dont like flashy combat like bayonetta and prefer immersive gameplay where people dont teleport around and do ridiculous airtime with physics that are 100% irrelevant.
Witcher 3 is great for my taste. None of the games people claim to have better combat attempt to do the combat the same way as witcher, they require different tastes.

>>382452827
Hey man FUCK you.

>>382457016
>pressing one button repeatedly is better than combinations and depth because it looks better

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>>382450107
>combat
>obscure shit
>in a game where literally 70% of it is combat

this game is garbage

>base game is repetitive and boring shit with villains that have less speaking lines than reskinned shopkeepers in velen
>DLCs are fun as fuck
The game was worth buying for HOS alone but fuck me was there a load or horseshit before it.

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>>382454652

>In all of /v/'s time shitposting about and hating The Witcher 3, not one person here has ever posted a valid, interesting negative critique of the game that actually explains why they dislike certain elements of it.

It has bad gameplay

>>382456018
>Highly accredited
Fucking Kanye has an honorary doctorate, highly accredited doesn't mean shit

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>>382452986
The way /v/ uses the "bad gameplay" meme the only video game genres with consistently good gameplay are Fighting games and First Person Shooters.

If you're obsessed with combat mechanics why play an RPG? Why not play one of those?

>>382457193
it's a fucking virtual novel
>muh combat
fuck off!

>>382457623
Its just semantics.
If you attached "game" to other parts that are in the game are they suddenly more important?
Story is irrelevant but GAMEstory is omni-important.
Characters are lame but GAMEcharacters are good
World design is for nerds but GAMEWORLD design is top tier.

>>382448773
The Witcher 3 isn't exceptional in any way, except maybe for its graphics. Gameplay is poor, and I'm not just talking about the combat - the "witcher sense" quests are beyond stupid and yet people somehow always overlook this when they talk about the game. The plot, character development, and writing are also highly mediocre. There are MANY rpgs out there that are stronger in this respect. The one redeeming factor this game has is its graphics and overall visual presentation, but even this is undermined by the fact that the world is dull, empty, and lacking interactivity. This game will age poorly and I doubt it will be seen as a masterpiece even a decade from now.

>>382450329
Yeah, this is actually a great pic.

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I don't understand all the defensiveness. The game is great but the combat sucks. It's boring and shallow. I don't even like Dark Souls but I'll admit it has better gameplay than the Witcher.

But so what? Doesn't really change the fact that Witcher 3 has an amazing story and setting.

>>382454652
Ok then I'll give it a go

>the combat
The combat isn't exactly bad but its not that good either. Its mediocre but it does have some qualities like good animation work. Where it really falls though is longevity, variety and depth.
The combat stays the same for almost the entire 150+ hour experience, and the incredibly specific mutations in B&W barely help it. Geralts moveset stays the same, which you never get to command yourself because attacks are distance based, not input based.
The variety in not only attacks but the bread and butter of combat systems - the enemies - is also lacking a fuckload of interesting opponents. It falls to the Dark Souls 2 example where most enemies have a 2 hit sweeping left right combo, a gap closer and a slightly heavier overhead swing. Almost 90% of enemies follow this route, and even when something different comes by, its extremely rare, like the fire golem in the witchers forge. This braindead moveset variety leads to 2 hits sidehop becoming the greatest strategy to win engagements.
>the open world
Is blatantly ubisoft-tier in its padded filler and repetitive side activities. Who actually liked monster nests or bandit camps? The rewards for doing them are piss poor at best, what incentive is there to clear out 50 monster nests for maybe 1000 experience when you could just advance the next story quest and get 1500 experience from just talking to people?
B&W helped a bit with the strongholds but even those are just bandit camps with more enemies so welp.
>the loot system
Is completely pointless because witcher gear 10 levels lower will still win in stats, and witcher gear is found from quests anyway. The loot system does nothing but discourage exploration, if the open world design didn't already do that
Money holds almost no value whatsoever beyond the infrequent upgrade and the only way CDPR got players to spend their massive lumps of cash was to just make money hoarding quests in the DLCs.

cont

>>382450329
your opinion is wrong, quest and story are great, also monsters are just to distract retards that want combat

>>382458231
>Doesn't really change the fact that Witcher 3 has an amazing story and setting
spoken like a true pleb

>>382449076
Why do you hate poland?

>>382458259
>blatantly ubisoft-tier
I think people who say this don't quite understand exactly how terrible and copy-paste Ubisoft games are

>>382457997
>The Witcher 3 isn't exceptional in any way, except maybe for its graphics

This is maximum delusion. Almost no one, professional or otherwise, who praises this game talks primarily about the graphics, but there are a million high budget games with top notch graphics that are outright shit upon. Graphics have never been award bait.

>>382458398
It's a fake country created to be a buffer state against Germany

>>382458372
i bet you like dark souls 'story' and muh edgy setting
ugh

>>382456814
>nothing happens
Are you actually retarded?
>boring characters
Yep, apparently
>boring quests
Fully voiced non-fetchquests are apparently boring now
>boring dialogue
You must have autism cause you apparently can't read into any sort of subtlety

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My only problem on this game is the names, I have some problem remembering names, so most of the story I don't know what the fuck are they talking about.

>>382458541
no i just read actual books and play better rpgs

>>382458879
so you play witcher 1

>>382458259
>the main quest
The main quest is mostly fine but suffers from extreme pacing issues, time wasting and the princess in another castle syndrome.
Well over 70-90 hours (on a completionist run) is spent on running around finding Ciri, which is always in another town/city/island where Geralt will have to herd goats, kill nekkers for pennies and pick flowers to get basic information. It feels extremely padded, and doesn't lend itself to replaying at fucking all.
Skellige is over way too quickly and is wasted potential at best, the battle at kaer morhen is great but everything after that is rushed to shit with random deus ex machinas like the sunstone and the white frost and ciris powers and oh no avallach betrayed you geralt but no he didn't actually and whatever. Eredin is also the worst antagonist I've ever seen in a game, he has less speaking lines than reskinned shopkeepers and 90% of his lines are just stupid one liners like "as you expire", the last 10% is expositional dumping - as if the
>quest design
Didn't do it enough.
The witcher senses system not only destroys any potential the questing could have had, the system also doesn't require any thought, skill or even more basic things like timing. Its mindless, boring and extremely repetitive following-the-bread-crumbs gameplay, that persists throughout ALL 400+ quests.
Almost every single quest boils down to you walking in circles, spamming X so that Geralt can shove helpful exposition down the braindead playerbases throats so that they don't have to think about what to do next.

At the end of the day Witcher 3 wasn't a bad experience for me, it was a great experience. But thats all it is. If I hadn't played the DLCs HOS and B&W, I wouldn't dare to call it a good experience.

The combat is extremely shallow and repetitive, the enemy design is so horrible that the paid DLC reskins enemies, the loot system is pointless, the quest design is braindead and the open world is a checklist.

>>382458419
How can you honestly look at the 300+ bandit camps, 400+ monster dens and 500+ fucking smugglers caches and tell me that the open world design isn't just a blatant ubisoft-esque checklist at best? Seriously, fucking how?

If you added radio towers, the game would be a carbon copy of any ubisoft open world.

Witcher 3 is the greatest ubisoft game ever created but really, is that much of an achievement?

>>382459381
Because in Witcher you actually run into half the shit while doing quests, so you're actually incentivized to stop and loot while on the way to something important, maybe even do a mini quest.

In games like Asscreed or Watchdogs it really was just a checklist cause there were fuckall for side quests

>>382459381
they put that kind of thing for people who have no life
can you imagine picking up those water chest in skelli?

the witcher has a main story greater than any ubi game, it has side quest greater than any ubi game + those collectibles for kids, it's much more than an ubi game

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>>382458879
>play better rpgs

Does Dark Soul actually have RPG mechanics outside of combat customization? Because every fighting game has that, but better combat. Dark Souls would have been better off spending those AP points on story and setting as well, as well as on choices that affect the two of those.

>>382448773
It was alright for like 60 hours I got bored though
Geralt was boner material

>>382458538
lol

The Witcher is one of those games you pirate on your PC to benchmark how good your rig is.

Icewind Dale 2 does everything better than Witcher except graphics and waifubait

>>382448773
Need I remind you that Gothic 2 is the greatest rpg of all ti-

N-nevermind I just can't shill it anymore bros. Witcher won. Poland is more based than us germans...

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>This is MY story Geralt, let me finish it!

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>>382448773
Ever been forced to make a decision so difficult you stop playing for a while, contemplate what to do, and never picking up the game again?

That's me in Blood and wine. I stopped playing because of the Basilisk Iocaste. I can't decide wether to spare or kill it, i'm so torn.

One one hand, it only killed people who wandered into it's territory, the "owner" really ups his game in warning people, even going as far as to hire guards. It also doesn't attack you after you spare it. Also, iirc you don't have a contract on it, the Reavers do and they are cunts. You just go investigate some rumors on your own, and as luck would have it there's a reward for killing it. And it's the last known one of its kind, and i have a soft spot for that kind of thing. And also iirc, some of the people who were killed by it intentionally provoked it to attack people.

On the other hand, it's a monster, i'm a witcher. It has already killed people, and even if there are guards now and warning signs, theres no guarantee it will stay in that area or not expand its territory.

I don't even know what book Geralt would do. He has spared monsters before BECAHÙSE they were endangered.
As Dandelion says:
>“Don't tell me what to do,” insisted the poet. “Me, putting on airs? Me? You're one to talk, the one who refuses interesting jobs every other day! You won't kill the hirikkhis because it's an endangered species; not the scorpion flies either because they're not dangerous; not to mention the noctambelles because they are charming sorceresses: and the dragons, because that's against your code of ethics. I too, you may imagine, am someone with self respect! I too have my own personal code!

>>382450990
>(cave of dreams quest for instance)
I wonder how many players got cucked out of even seeing it.

>do all of Lugos's dumb quests, including babysitting his son
>BARK BEFORE THE BITE EH HAVE AT YOU
Fuck you game

>>382463040
I loved how there were no clear cut right and wrong choices save for the Ciri shit

The side quests were better than the main quest anyway

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>>382463040
I bet you thought undertale was deep and emotional.

What are some wrpgs with better combat then faggots? Since you all like to complain about Witcher's combat.

>>382463040
Sparing is the good choice. Plus it doesn't matter anyway

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I never played BLIAD: 3.
Why do you consider it to be such a good game?

>>382464126
Witcher 2

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>>382464031
I have never touched that game and have literally 0 interest in it, and i find it's fanbase infuriatingly annoying as they shove that game down your throat, or at least they did.
Fuck off, anon.

>>382464126
Mass Effect

I still can't believe people are still so mad 2 years after the game released.

Zelda's bitching seems like child's play in comparison.

>>382464253
agreed, but most won't
>>382464263
whoa a third person shooter. Wow, witcher blown the fuck out!

>Witcher 1
>Nobody read the books, so let's have a soft reboot and have characters explain everything to Geralt because he doesn't know anything either

>Witcher 3
>Namedrop bookfaggotry every 5 seconds

>>382458538
It was real before then died then was real again. then died under communism and is currently recovering

>>382463040
If it attacks people, you have to kill it.
Same with the Succubus, same with the Doppler.

Always punish the aggressor, human or monster. Unless they're a rare monster with valuable organs you can harvest

>>382464530
>pre w1 no one had red the books
>w2 is huge success and people read the books
>...

>>382450329
everything except smell is visible in the game world without witcher senses, you don't have to use it
also khorinis and the surrounding lands are extremely tiny so the game can get away with giving off vague hints on where to go, something like that is impossible to pull off in Witcher where the game world is realistic and vast and full of nothing

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The movement system outside of combat in Bitcher 3 nearly ruined the game for me

>>382453158
The perfect example of movement and momentum done well

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>>382466118
>The perfect example of movement and momentum done well
What a bizarre thing to say.
Theres zero momentum, the characters teleport around in an instant. The movement is as unrealistic as its possible to be.

>>382453050
Dark Souls isn't a wrpg
Neither is Bloodborne
Dragon's Dogma is heavily flawed in everything, but combat

>>382453158
Isn't an rpg

>>382453471
none of those are rpgs

I guess fags can't compare Witcher 3 to skyrim or BGII or Gothic 2 because they know the combat shits all over those games.

>>382466118
What does it even do?

>>382466476
Heres a comparison video
https://youtu.be/Dyk2xNr9GKc

>>382458259
>>382459009
>no replies
Like clockwork

>>382449076
>Hating the last bastion of european nationalism

Fuck off with your globalism.

>>382466778
Most people, me included 100% ignore walls of text with no paragraphs.
Its just a waste of time.

>>382466976
Shilling Witcher 3 must just be a meme at this point then, there's no way any one fanbase is this high on their own farts.

>>382466605
Does it affect horses too?

Honestly I had no problems finishing the game on standard

>>382467124
If you want people to reply make the post consice and well structured.
Just a general tip in life. If you look like you didnt take basic writing lessons in school why would people expect your stuff to be worth reading?

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So is there any examples of "good" gameplay? Currently playing the game, I'm only about 8 hours in, but the only thing keeping me in the game is the story. The gameplay as of right now is really boring.

>>382467331
Yeah those farts smell pretty good

>>382467446
WoW has as good gameplay as its possible to have.

>>382467446
It's just White Orchard in Poland, and White Orchard in Sweden

It gets better but not THAT better

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Still hate the franchise as a whole.

Sapkowski is a plagiaristic hack.


GIVE MOORCOCK HIS DUES YOU FUCK.

ELRIC IS TEN TIMES THE SERIES THE WITCHER EVER WAS.

>>382450329
This is a really odd criticism, considering you can turn off everything that you dislike on the minimap, turn off the witcher senses, turn off the glow, and you can find buckthorn in tons of places around the world as well as in shops so you don't have to follow the quest marker.

But contrarians are going to be contrarians regardless. Doesn't make you look cool. Just lame/boring. Witcher III with most of the UI disabled, including minimap parts so you just have to listen to what the characters say, or pay attention to the sign posts, is incredible. It actually shares a lot of similarities with Gothic II, which I also dig.

>>382467624
Go to lit, then. No one here has heard of elric or knows who moorcock is without google.

>>382466352
>Dark Souls isn't a wrpg
But it's an RPG
>Neither is Bloodborne
See above.
>Dragon's Dogma is heavily flawed
So is The Shitter 3

>Isn't an rpg
If Nier isn't an RPG then neither is Witcher 3

>>382466352
>I guess fags can't compare Witcher 3 to skyrim or BGII
Oh, so you want "your" game to be compared to bottom of the barrel garbage exclusively?

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>>382467779
>No one here has heard of elric
It's no ones fault but your own that you're a pleb.

Even if you don't know Elric, you still do.

>>382450329
>not just turning off the quest markers

>>382466976
but it is divided into paragraphs by greentexts which answer every question

>>382467968
Elric is a white haired guy.
OK.

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>>382468074
He isn't just a white haired guy.

He is THE white haired guy.

>>382452648
Wtf
I can't think of a game with worse combat

>>382457815

Somebody post that dumbest shit said on v Award for this guy

>>382448773
good book
bad game

>>382468184
Im sure thats what you honestly believe.

>>382468339
It's also what the Japanese believe. Anno and the rest of the Gainax nerds wouldn't have creamed themselves with their work on Daicon IV otherwise. They love the Moorcock.

>>382452827

How do people still manage to be this retarded

>>382468468
Japanese don't make good games.

>>382468339
You can look up the origins yourself. How do you think his design even started?

>>382468573
Fuck off Phil.

>>382468609
>How do you think his design even started?
"how about we draw a guy with white hair"
"ok"

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>>382455416
>Skyrim was literally Tolkien Fallout 3

>>382468828
t. oblivion with guns

>>382467663
kek, sure thing witcherbabby

>>382448773
It's really good.

>>382455892
>it's supposed to be bad!

While this is still a Witcher 3 thread can someone post the picture that shows Blood and Wine and underneath it is the contents of DLC Pack 1 for BoTW? I can't find it anywhere

>>382454321
>>382455097
how new are you

>>382456067
people actually believe this.

See the only complaint I ever see about The Witcher 3 is the questing system does not follow a traditional open world RPG formula yet none of the previous games in the series had that kind of quest formula because they weren't open world and nobody complained about it.

Honestly, the game gives you enough information that if you turn the quest trail off you could still easily finish every quest in the game.

You'd still need the batman senses but those make sense considering you're roleplaying as someone who's meant to be a master tracker.

>>382459381
notice boards are the radio towers, you just interact with them directly instead of climbing them first.

>>382470314
Honestly I wish they had radio towers that showed every quest icon and fast travel spot

People always complain about them, but I honestly enjoy it more than mindless wandering

>>382468975
>I didn't realize any of those options existed and have no rebuttal since my entire criticism of handholding is nullified by turning off options

t. contrarion badtaste 16 y/o

Is Nifgaard supposed to be an allegory for Nazi Germany? Seems like it.

What will nintenbabies say that when BOTW fails to surpass Witcher 3 in awards? Will they still say reviews and awards matter?

>>382468756
Spoke the pleb.

The true origins lie with Zenith the Albino.

>>382470928
Every fantasy world has some ((evil)) empire.
I cant think of many similarities between nazis and nilfgaard. More like Russia.

>>382467968
Elric didn't invent white hair. The only reason Geralt gets compared to Elric is because of the 'white wolf' title and that's it. They have nothing else in common. Elric is a pretty boy and Geralt is ugly for one thing.

>>382469442
>>382470821
https://youtu.be/ip43AoWFYBE?t=524
witcher plebs are absolutely delusional

>>382471215
I guess, but it's written by a Polack and it would seem weird if Nilfgaard is Russia since the series is so popular in Russia.

>>382470928
They do literally nothing wrong in 3 tho, and it's annoying as hell. Geralt is a total cunt to Emhyr for no reason

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>>382448773
Agreed.

>>382471741
It might have a little something to do with him wanting to marry and impregnate Ciri in the books, despite having full knowledge that she is his biological daughter.

>>382471327
explain

>>382448773
I stopped playing after reaching Skellege the first time around and I was over leveled due to side quests.
>>382458538
Germany is cancer and hearlding the destruction of Western civilization.

>>382448773
>it can't be possible for you to sincerely believe that it's a bad game
lol. It's an action-rpg with shitty combat and a mediocre story.

>>382466886
>last bastion of european nationalism
>in the eu

>>382472319
go to 8:44 for """useful""" quest directions

>>382472734
That's it? Literally one example from an intentionally eccentric character who isn't clear about anything? Where Geralt is even obviously annoyed by his vagueness?

Not the dozens of examples of people specifying landmarks, roads, cities, and signposts that lead you there?

Not to mention that you can turn the directions back on if you're such a baby you can't even be assed to look around for the thing.

Either it has too much handholding or it doesn't have enough. You can customize that when you run into issues. You can go dozens of hours without needing the minimap or directions, or you can use them all the time if you need to. It isn't even a valid criticism. It's like playing Smash 4 (lmao) and complaining about tap jump. Just turn that shit off if it bothers you so much, but don't complain that you can't tap jump anymore after you do it.

>>382448773

>Crap gameplay

Anon it's bad

>>382473885
>Not the dozens of examples of people specifying landmarks, roads, cities, and signposts that lead you there?
Never happened.
>Either it has too much handholding or it doesn't have enough
If you're forced to go into the settings between quests because the game is too straight forward/too vague then it's simply bad design. A good video game would give you enough information to make your own path without the need for the developer to push you forward every step of the way.

>>382473885
Pellar dad quest is not an exception, it's the norm, the vast majority of quests are exactly like that.
Only instances of useful directions I remember were finding the backdoor entrance to the Baron's lair and finding Keira's house, which also constantly forces the markers back on each time you complete a step, even if you turn them off.
You'd have to cite actual examples of useful quest directions, I honestly can't remember any.

>>382448773
>There is no denying that

I liked the "prove me wrong" template better. Witcher 3 is overrated mediocrity, combat is still shit, roleplaying has been enriched with some SJW shit and niggers in the DLC. Also shills are still struggling to make up excuses for the massive downgrade, CDPR will NEVER live that one down.

>>382474809
Don't forget the big FUCK YOU to the modding community. Doubly so because even TW2 had better tools.

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>>382454652
Funny because I have never seen a positive trait being mentioned other than being THE BEST GAME EVER!
>good story
read the books
>good graphics
how does that make a good game?
>good quests
I admit that they try to give each quest character but in the end it annoyed me even more because they needed 1000 lines of dialogue to establish those characters just so they are true to the books. After 40 hours I just skipped most sidequest dialogue, revealing that the quests are just average in itself. (Go there, kill monsters/talk to someone, go back)

What else is there? Gameplay and World sure isnt because it's subpar in those categories.
No really, I want to know from YOU what you liked about the game because apparently I couldn't see it when I played it

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>>382476189

every element in it is above average or excelent.
literally every element in it is over the average video game ever released. Yea it doesnt have souls combat. but it's a over 100 hours game of consistent enjoyment that has more elements than souls. And if souls has a 10 combat, w3 has a 7-8 combat system in the grand scheme of all games.
not to say that it's the best game but I can't see some1 actually not finding at least something in this game that you don't like

also, the fact that it's memed today more than ds3 which came the same year should tell you which let a more lasting impression

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>>382478198
>literally every element in it is over the average video game ever released
You can say the exact same thing about Mass Effect Andromeda if you consider the fact that shovelware like pic related is ridiculously widespread.

>the fact that it's memed today more than ds3 which came the same year should tell you which let a more lasting impression
Dark Souls 3 continues to get high quality discussions on here daily. From gameplay mechanics, to setting up fight clubs and lore discussion. Meanwhile The Witcher 3 threads are always "best game ever made" or "worst game ever made" bait threads and Waifu circle jerking.

>>382479625

well thats the point. in the real world, ME ANDROMEEDA was a 5/10, not the worst game ever made

And if you ask why it flopped it's because when you put years and tens of millions into a game and you get only a 5/10 game, it's an abismall performance.

>>382456067
Well not really unless you purposely limit yourself and not go for Axii/puppet + quen signs build, All other sign build takes too much time to complete and some are not really as effective in death march so there's goes your "variety" out of the window and the defensive combat manuevers are all that different when compared to TW2, Also OP gear are way too easy complete.

destiny

>>382466976
>no one ever makes interesting critiques about the game
>greentexts each point that he critiques
>lol the formatting is shit so it doesn't count

I like Witcher 3, but come the fuck on anon

>>382466976
>walls of text with no paragraphs

There are clearly frequent paragraphs. You have to be an adult to post here.

>>382449553
what was gwent?

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>>382453205
>>382453442
you do realize fuckers witcher 1 was never on steam ?

>>382485628
Wat

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I just downloaded the game of the year edition. Never played a Witcher game before, what am i in for?

>>382452648
as someone who loved the HECK out of W3, i couldnt even bother playing w1 because of the combat. i got to the village with shani and that was it. the combat is atrocious

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>>382485997
>browse steam again
>sees DIRECTION CUT WITCHER 1
>im a fucking dumbass
>golly my apologies il show myself the door

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>>382448773
I honestly believe it's a bad game, the only thing it has going for it is that its pretty and the writing is alright. TW3 just got rated well because it was a WRPG that normalfags obsessed with Game of Thrones could get into, and people starved for something even vaguely resembling a WRPG finally had something new to play.

>>382448773
>it can't be possible for you to sincerely believe that it's a bad game.

I think the biggest issue is that it's a conventional non-open world game shoved into a giant, visually homogenous level-one with barely any open world mechanics (which are just large scale mechanics that do more). What we have in Witcher 3, Skyrim and other "open world" shits in general, is some kind of fusion between a typical game and an MMO, not some higher incarnation of open world (not even close). I find them incredibly boring, if not flat out depressing.

The worst part of these "open world" games is they don't feel dangerous. So much of the time is spent in neutral zones, in safe towns and shit. The real excitement of a proper open world will go with how dangerous the world feels. The cop chases in GTA3 were exciting as fuck back in the day, you'd finish a mission and you'd have to evade cops. Just writing that reminded me of how amazing that felt back then. So, open world mechanics, proper ones, would elevate the feeling of danger and excitement. If your enemies could surprise you and bring more tactics to every encounter, that could take advantage of the open world. Witcher 3 has you run into some ball of enemies here and there, and nothing about it is much beyond a single player MMO.

Anyways, it's a game with a few really standout qualities, I tried to get into Witcher 2 and 3 but they're just chores too much of the time, and the combat is just disappointing. I couldn't even get excited about my character's build, the skill tree is really disappointing.