What the fuck is wrong with SEGA? No seriously, how the fuck

>>382399136
>Sold just over 50k in Japan at launch
>Even the original VC outsold it

What went SO wrong?

>>382399136
>. I JUST WANT ANOTHER FUCKING GOOD VALKYRIA CHRONICLES GAME
Then make sure you buy Revolution to show support because otherwise they'll drop the Valkyria franchise forever.

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>tfw never ever

>>382399136
>"oh hey the americanus bought our resold gameu"
>"really? damn that's a lot of moneyu, this is sequel worthy"
>a few hours of japanese speed weed later
>"lets giveu the sequel to the shining guys with no budget"
>"you mean the fags with the porn artist that make mediocre hack and slashes every couple years?"
>"yeah them, what couldu possibly go wrongu!"

>>382399978
>Revolution sells bad
>"Guess they don't want Valkyria anymore"
>Revolution sells well
>"Guess they like Revolution better than Chronicles, better get to work on more of these!"
This is what we call a lose-lose situation.

>>382400112
They even got negative feedback throughout the development that resulted in the game having systems added to please fans because people were so unhappy with how it was turning out

>>382400735
Systems added that were like putting a bandaid on a severed leg. The original demo early last year was pure button-mashing hack and slash, with below-mediocre cover and shooting mechanics. Couldn't even aim the guns for headshots or the like, you just burst fire and trade shots back and forth if you don't run up to gut them. People got so pissed that the devs went "okay okay we'll add tactical elements don't kill us"

All they did was add a ring menu that pauses the action to let players do special skills, toss grenades or fire a gun, with enemies being unable to do anything for the duration. Sure you have targeting areas of effect or so forth, but they did the absolute minimal amount of effort to try to add a "tactical" element, when the game still mostly encourages rushing in and hacking and slashing.

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>>382400387
I don't understand how any company can think this way, yet I see it happen all the time. How can an entire boardroom full of people be so out of touch that not one of them thinks to ask, "What if the game just sucked?"

>>382401489
Didn't the port of VC on PC do fairly decent as well? I really don't get it

>>382401563
PC port/remaster sold really well, as did the PS4 re-release of it. Shit, my brother bought both just because he loved the game so much, and a lot of people expressed their love for VC1 again. Sega remembered all the sudden, "Oh right, we licensed a shitty anime adaptation and made two sequels on a dying handheld for a reason, this didn't do too bad in the first place."

And then they outsourced the next console game for an alternate continuity action game to one of their crappier and low budget dev teams that similarly murdered the Shining series.

>>382401796
I have the steelbox PS4 version. It's pretty sweet. Didn't know that it also sold well though

I'll never understand how Sega decided to bring the game to Xbox One over PC.
>Game sells almost 1million times on PC
>"Hey let's port the spinoff to the Xbox One instead"
I bought it on my PS4 and regret it, but it's still a slap in the face to PCfats

>>382402323
It's probably because Xboxone is starved for JRPGs so they thought it might sell well there regardless of it's quality.

>>382402323
I honestly wish the One had more games, especially exclusives. I miss the og xbox and the 360

>>382399136
I just want VC3 remake or similar game to it. It's the best one in the series yet only way to play it is get a Japanese ISO with fan translation

>>382403010

Objectively wrong.
Nobody who ports to the Xbone thinks it'll sell well. Even the port of Steins;Gate had the devs stating "we don't believe it'll sell but that's okay because we want the fans who do own an Xbox One to experience this title."

Or in the case of Experience Inc in general
>Have Microsoft literally fund your group
>Make it big enough to be weaned off of the funding teat
>Remain grateful to them by making every fourth game made an exclusive title or multiplat despite fully knowing it won't sell

To be fair though, EXP Inc's greatest audience is the Vita.

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>>382403194
VC3 HD soon. Wait for TGS and never give up hope.

This game is sacrilegious but don't pretend the originals weren't also kinda boring

>>382403307
Just because you find them boring doesn't mean other people do

>>382401489
for what its worth, they dont stop making games due to bad sales as a conscious decision under the assumption that people dont want more, its just that investors stop giving money to under performing titles that results in the games not being made anymore purely from a sales stand point. I am sure the devs would love to keep making them until they get it right but if you fuck up, you arent getting an opportunity to try again most of the time

unless you are homefront i guess

>>382403469
Good point, Socrates

>>382399136
In one of their interviews they gave out the timeline of how long it took to make and they actually gave this the greenlight about a month or two before VC1 PC came out and blew their expectations out of the water.

>>382399136
>Another hysterical Chronicles whore
you guys are pathetic

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The game is irredeemably shit. Even Japan hates it.

Here, I'll post the only reason people get this game, so you don't have to buy it.

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>>382405915

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>>382405994
>>382405915
There, now you don't need to buy it. You're welcome.

She dies anyway and her tits shrink when she does

>>382405915
I'm an ass man, so this doesn't really matter

>>382405915
>>382405994
>>382406058
This should've just been a paizuri porn game.

>>382406058

>killing the white hair girl again

Has Sega learned nothing?

>>382405915
>>382405994
>>382406058
the sad thing is, this is literally a possessed teacher made valkyria to try to pretend to have a selvaria equivalent
and even selvaria, for her raito tits, wasn't this ridiculously stupid looking or oversized

the fucked up part of it all is that SEGA is making hella money off of PSO2 to even bother with other IPs

>>382406291
>tits are literally larger than her head
wew lad

>>382406436
I find that hard to believe. If PSO2 really was that successful, they would have tried to bring it over here to the West.

>>382406507
They didn't need to.
All the would-be western players willing to go through setting up shit the hard way were already playing, and after some brief persecution now they don't give a shit anymore while the entire game is able to be patched to be translated.

>>382406507
PSO2 IS that successful, the reason they don't bring it over to the west is because it hasn't had a content update in MONTHS. All that they add to the game is crossover vocaloid and anime stuff to the gacha to get costumes and shit. Stuff that would have needed TONS of licensing negotiations in the west.

Also >>382406626 . They shut down all of their online gaming branches here in the west when they shut down PS:U.

>>382406507
https://mmos.com/news/phantasy-star-online-2-remains-huge-moneymaker-sega

to be fair after the way they released Phantasy Star Universe here in the states and how the english community reacted to it in addition to sonic autists i can see why

>>382406626
funny thing is. if you're a non jap all you need honestly is just the SEGA ID shit and a PS4 or Vita lmao then you're good to go.

>>382406726
>to be fair after the way they released Phantasy Star Universe here in the states and how the english community reacted to it in addition to sonic autists i can see why
Sega of Japan's notoriously had a stick up their ass when it comes to supporting Sega of America, you'd almost think they were trying to get the US side of things to fail and just sort of vaguely ignoring the EU. But PSU was plain ridiculous and one of the most harmful things i've seen a game company do to its own branches.

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>>382406507
>>382406626
>>382406712
All things considered, Sega said they were gonna support PSO2 with a 10 year plan but with how much money they're making off of this shit i wouldn't be surprised if they went over the 10 years and the games winds up not shut down/dead like FFXI

>>382406978
Like I said in my post, they haven't ever really supported the game. Besides fixing critical bugs and adopting a weird solstice update plan like some sort of korean MMO where they update twice a year and throw more cash shop shit at you in between, I can't think of a single meaningful update the game has gotten since launch. I mean, even capcom supports dragon's dogma online more.

>>382399978

>throwing money at morons who never learn from their mistakes and keep fucking with loyal customers

""no''

>>382406726
I'm surprised to see people still clamor for PSO2 in the west after how they ALWAYS treated the non Japanese servers in the series like absolute garbage.

>>382401563
>believe a port at 5 bucks is gonna do well to sega
That's why you got shit and not even the psp sequel,one game at 5 dollars doesnt mean shit to sega.

All they had to do was remaster 2/3 together with new assets to follow up with 1. Include 1 for the XBO port. They are so FUCKING retarded

>>382406905
I heard a long time ago that Sonic '06 was the cause for a lot of Sega's shit being fucked including PSU.

>>382407072
we're getting a new expansion thats Medieval Fantasy themed and Dante from the devil may cry series as a playable class here: https://youtu.be/m35A81o_H1c?t=1830

but yeah it's more or less the same update cycle since release

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>>382399136
It went to shit since second game though and never recovered. Which is sad because game had some potential.

>>382407247
yeah its kind of sad. i tried to get some friends into playing but they're so autistically opposed to playing it since its not in english and the english fan patch isn't enough for them. it's just one of those games you really have to like to jump through hoops for

>>382407480
PSU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSO2

>>382407494
VC3 is the best game in the series.

>>382407072
You're fucking retarded and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The game is shit otherwise, but you're spouting pure bullshit.

>>382407896
I'm really not. Post a major update that WASN'T more gachashit, or cash shop shit, or vocaloid, or some anime crossover.

>>382407736
you're the first person i've run into to say that and and i fucking browse /pso2g/ on /vg/ of all places i was really expecting a STR8OUTTA RAGOL answer or something. with that being said i am a universe fag myself. i wonder if clementine is actually playable now

>>382408048
Youre fault for going to any general. Only the biggest scum living on earth go those. Absolute fucking losers. I got bored of PSO2 in 50 hours. PSU shut down when I had 5000 hours. And I want more. Clementine is playable but not complete

>>382405915
>>382405994
>>382406058
>>382407494


Wtf is this shit? I thought VC was about anime teens going to WW1.5?

First game wasn't even good, full of annoying cutscenes

>>382408118
I wasn't implying that i regret going to /pso2g/. i stayed in that general for about a year because of how easy and hilarious it was triggering those autists and their shitty discord server. /r9k/ is more respectable than that general or most of the generals on /vg/ as a whole. i had around 4500 hours in PSU not counting the portable series. with the portable series i got about 5500 hours combined

haha EPIC OP

>>382408206
Gunther, (the main protag of VC1) was age 24.

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>franchise with ONE (1) decent game

>hur dur it's RUINED!

Lmfao, imagine pretending the series lost much

>>382408498
Good for you man. I was there when both servers were shut down. Lost everything, on 360 and JP PC. I don't regret it though, I remember constantly throughout 2006-2008 just falling asleep playing it because I stayed up all night. No game will ever resonate with me like PSU did.

I tried PSP1 but it was missing AOTIs content and was a small game all around, since it came out in 2008 and all and PSU was nowhere near done yet. Couldn't get into PSP2 because of the redone PP and chain system. Made the gameplay much slower sadly. I bet Clementine will be done by the end of next year, provided they don't give up.

>>382408758
I didn't mind the new PP system they had for PSP2 and infinity i just hating fucking chaining shit in order to do damage that shit was dumb. I need to play PSP1 and 2i again now. i still have my physical copies of AoTI for my PS2

>>382399136
Valkyria Chronicles went to shit after the first game.

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>>382408940
Yeah the chains really changed the entire flow of the game. All classes were better off just blasting with twin handguns and finishing off with their strong weapon. Forces were terrible. The PP was also to limiting, with only like 100. PSU to me was always about playing aggressive, non stop rush downs on mobs of enemies, smacking them up, down, around. Rangers would juggle with shotguns and lasers. Forces, especially Masterforce, was god tier. You had Protransers or Acrotechers if you were more support minded. You could just keep the assault going endlessly and pop a photon charge to get right back in. It was kind of like a simpler Ninja Gaiden 2 with RPG elements. The cool down period came from the beautiful lobbies, character customization, and running a shop in your room.

In general, PSU was very well divided on its gameplay and social aspects. That's why I loved it so much, there was always something to hunt, or grind for, or level up, or talk to, or price check, or collect. You're making me tear up like a bitch man, the nostalgia...

>>382405915
>>382405994

that looks like shit,
I guess they were trying to mimic RAITA'S artstyle, which is ironic since he had to tone down his designs for VC1 and it resulted in better looking models.

>>382406291
VC1 only had nice designs because somebody was there to oversee and unfuck Raita's designs. Everything he does on his own is trash.

>>382409278
as much as i love the DMClite combat in PSO2 the social is pretty much dead to me despite it being an MMO. i dont remember how it was that much back in Universe or in PSO 1 but the majority of the community in PSO2 (non jap of course) is legit fucking garbage since people would sperg out over tiniest little things even if you had something that was missing +5 atk points or the order you have stat abilities placed. seriously the order doesnt fucking matter as long as your shit adds up to 100 atk or more. Also you cant really have banter or get too friendly with other people because you might say something that'll get you blacklisted by "top tier teams" or that person's friends. i just mainly do the story mode and fuck around in the free fields and look at the scenery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYZ9n-cOnp0 no matter how many times i listen to this i always tear up to it

>>382409581
Is that the dude who did the sketches that ended up causing Katawa Shoujo to be made?

>>382409893
Yeah to many autistics on PSO2. Like the only people left were the elitist autists from PSO/U who would shit on every wrong footstep you make. Or the 4th floor shitters who just do furry roleplays and have never touched a pussy in their life. The scenery was alright but the game looked kind of bland. The snow and desert areas looked nice I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnIaDLdf_mQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ8yoLKou58&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b4GP8Y02Gg&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Imi9eSc2Jg&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP&index=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gp7TXkBKcM&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP&index=23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd9ESHONpb8&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP&index=26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLYKcpqtlqg&index=33&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpYQuWsRXU4&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP&index=40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EgM42ooPWI&index=47&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlRDTb2JevQ&index=62&list=PLgGFzuBN7AOxEnToXwJhIcCsVVmtp6GwP

These are just a FEW of my favorite tracks...this game had so much good music and its all so nostalgic.

>>382401796
>>382402323
Didn't the Remaster sell on PC for a pittance? I payed like $10 for it.

>>382410547
this is one of my favorites here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3abj3rCL58

Admittedly i didn't like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67KRjz2WYwg initially since it sounded kinda depressing/somber but it grew on me and sounded more beautiful than it did depressing as i listened to it more and more

>>382410939
i think it was like 10-15$ i know the PS4 remaster was like 24-29$ or some shit

>>382407494
>>382408757
>>382408958
>People constantly hate on VC3, the best game of the series, because it's on the same system as VC2

>>382410939
The price dropped pretty fast / went on sale a lot, I think it was $20 initially. It's not like it required a massive amount of effort, though, since it was a 720p game already. They probably made their money back for the port in bulk, hand over fist in money.

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Raita is GOAT when someone supervises his autism for Torpedo tits.


>>382410247
yes

>>382411369
That's crazy. Didn't know that. What other games has the dude done?

>>382411369
We have gone from this....

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>>382411973
....to this

>>382405915
those tits look comical

>>382399136
>What the fuck is wrong with SEGA?
People have been asking that since the 90's

>>382399136
The cover is so bad, holy shit.

>>382403292
>HD remaster announced
>it's VC2

>>382403242
thats not true about s;g

>>382406507
The game is not suitable for western soil, simply because it's not really palatable for western mainstream audience.
>t. played the game for 3 years

>>382412029

Torpedo tits are an acquired taste.

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>>382413748

torpedo tits are OK if they're not stupidly huge

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>>382412029
God bless Raita.

>>382413748
Nah, they're normal. Raita's art is just dog shit.

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>>382399136

Its just a spinoff son

Its budget was probably less than -half- of what the first game was

>Brunhilda's tits being even larger than selvarias
>No emotion on anyone's face
>Many short loading screens

I've been playing it, these things are annoying at best, but then its a -spinoff-

It didn't even do well in japan. They'll probably announce a proper sequel sooner than later

>Mfw people never seem to remember the game is just a -spinoff- and has no connection whatsoever to the other games

Its like you guys don't want sega to try something different once in a while.

AND the game wasn't even full price, if it was THEN we all really would have something to bitch about

>>382414148

you have the game?

how boring is it?
is the battle system shit?

>>382413748
Not even torpedo, it's raita banana tits.
Get your shit right next time.

>Selvaria clone dies again
Thanks for saving me the money anon, now I know I don't need to buy this shit

>>382414273
>he doesnt know about torpedo bananas
damn this thread is full of plebs

>>382405915
>>382405994
It's not even a good pair of tits, people can get far better tits in many different game, plus they didn't kill the gal in the game too.

>>382414215

The cuts scenes are pretty common, some of the characters have been given 'overly american' personalities. Like there's a blond support chick who literally 'sounds' like a blonde with said dialogue

The battle system is....alright. It is a little faster than the first game since there's no 'waiting' unless you want to use an ability or an item but it probably isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. More like its been a little dumbed down since there's no strategic 'limitaitons' like the first game had

It just feels kind of easy

So judging from video, the game looks like dynasty warriors minus hordes of troops and require action gauge before attacking.
It's so disappointing.

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>>382413581
I would be upset, but not too upset.
VC2 needs more work to be put into it to become a better game than VC3 and I think they know that.

If VC2 got the HD facelift then it would mean that all 3 of the games in the series can be called good instead of just two of them.
I'd still prefer an HD VC3 though just so we could possibly get a localization this time.

>>382399136
>What the fuck is wrong with SEGA?
SEGA is schizophrenic and gets incredibly asspained at the mere idea one of their franchises is more popular in the West than in Japan. You can read interviews about this shit. It goes all the way back to VC2.

>VC1 launches
>Nips see tanks and think the game is Western / brooding / dark / etc.
>SEGA decides to "fix" this by making VC2 in a school setting

And so on. This is just the latest attempt of saying "If we take a game that primarily Westerners like, and add in as many weebshit, anime, or Japanese game cliches as possible, we can make Japan like it instead!" That's why you have the game consist mostly of anime characters running around hacking shit up with swords. Because that's what Japanese people want in SEGA's fantasy world. They want to make fucking Ys, or something.

>>382415191
is there an Imca variant

>>382399136
If you can believe it the game had another version through a limited access demo awhile back and reception was so poorly received they said they would change things to make it more tactical.

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>>382416165
Probably, but I unfortunately don't have it. Just Riela.
If anyone does please post it.

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>>382415191

>>382416324
Somehow Raita can make small-breasted girls really cute but the moment it's tits time it becomes disturbing.

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>>382416414
I disagree, but to each their own.
Riela is perfection in my opinion.

>>382415965
It's not like VC1 wasn't "anime'. It just hits the perfect spot for average people, like Ghibli movies.

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>>382416565

would a short-haired Riela been great too?

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>>382417634
I prefer the design that we got, but a short hair Riela is good too as long as it's not just the Clarissa design.
In that picture the one with the pink coat is the cutest of the lot.

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>>382399136

Cute girls doing cute things in a faux WW1/WW2 scenario.

is that too much too ask from SEGA?

>Selvaria is massively popular
>gets cameos in some games
>fans want more but want her alive
>make NOT Selvaria
>looks good ok
>oops she dies AND loses her massive tits cause reasons

Seriously just fucking burn SEGA to the ground. They fucked over PSU, they fucked over PSO2. They held yakuza hostage despite only needing to sub it. Yet horrible sonic games keep getting shit out.

BURN SEGA TO THE FUCKING GROUND!

>>382400112
To be fair a ton of Japanese artists also do porn