THERE WILL BE BLOOD SHED Just beat this the first time

>>382383907
The song is great, the characters are great, the setting is great, the build up is great, the fight is dog shit.

>>382384442
Get the fuck off my board

>>382384549
How about you fuck off fanboy?

>>382383907
Honestly this game is the real Metal Gear Solid 5 for me, 11/10 ost

yeah they really could've stretched that fight for like twice the amount it was already.

Sam's the best character in the game hands down (ok maybe armstrong gets close) and it giving him the regular boss treatment was not enough.

I really hope we see him again even if it requires the devs to bend the canon story 7901651 degrees to bring him back.

>>382384442
I honestly enjoyed the simplicity of the fight, although I can totally see how you don't like it considering all the buildup for Sam

>>382383907

>This song describes Venom Snake as well

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Will we ever get MGR2 from nu-Konami, /v/?

>>382384885
I have hope
Maybe TGS?

>>382384885

>Nu-Konami
>Games at all
Konami went full Yakuza, no joke. Pachinko and games that are very cheap to make but sell well because of their name is all you can expect, that's the category Survive falls into as well. It's just a fucking mod for TPP and they let a skeleton crew make it.

>>382384442
It overstayed its welcome. It should've been half as long

>>382384885
after we get Goemon

>>382383907
What if you were to give this game to, say, twenty... intelligent people i mean, what would that do? Let's face it what would it do?

>>382385309
this meme sucks

>>382384442
really? imo

Armstrong > Monsoon > Excelsius > Sam > Blade Wolf > Mistral > RAY > Sundowner

I forgot how Khamsin was

>>382384885
I don't think Platinum Games would do it. Not sure theres anyone outside of Konami themselves who would want to touch the Metal Gear universe now.

>>382385309
Really, that's interesting.

>>382384885
It's depressing to think of how shit Konami has become

>>382384731
>>382385129
>>382385515

I would be fine with just a classic 1v1 fight, it starts off really good but then he loses the sword for half of it to just spam the same easy as fuck boring move? And then the biggest window for damage is when he is stuck in an animation where he looks at this scabbard while you are slicing him to bits. It's shit

The AI gets progressively worse and pigeonholed into a more limited moveset.

>>382386107
Yes like i said, it overstayed its welcome. It's a 7-8 minute fight that should've been 3-4

OST ranked from best to worst

Stains of Time
A Stranger I Remain
Collective Consciousness
The Only Thing I Know For Real
I'm My Own Master Now
It Has To Be This Way
Red Sun
Rules of Nature
Hot Wind Blowing

discuss

MGR2 never

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>>382386828
I would swap "I'm my own master now" with "A stranger i remain", but other than that, same.

>>382386828
Collective Consciousness and Rules of Nature can switch places.

>>382387559
Rules of Nature is a meme song, maximum overrated

>>382387641
It became such a huge meme for everything because it's a good song. You are just sick of it.

>>382386828
>Stains of Time on top
Don't need to read the rest, you're already my nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs5OQrdlq2c

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>>382384885
MGR was a fluke, a happy coincidence of things lining up to make a great game.

Could they make a new game with such memorable characters, good yet ridiculous script, just the right kind of balance between cheesy and hype ost, fun boss fights and decent combat? Considering Platinum, Kojima and Konami's other recent efforts, no, they fucking couldn't. MGR2 would be a complete letdown.

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>It Has To Be This Way and The War Still Ranges Within both use the Peacewalker theme in their melody

>>382387882
Nier was good. Platinum still has it in them.

Konami, I don't know.

>>382387868
the double bass drum is 2stronk

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>>382383907
Beat it for the first time last week, the only thing I hate is the fact that I didn't play it sooner.

that and the fact that the game was relatively short, not to mention it was really easy to cheese fights by spamming parry

>>382387868

I've lost count how many times I listened to stains of time due to how hard is to get rank S on revengeace mode

>>382387990
>Nier was good. Platinum still has it in them.

If by good you mean awful, then yes. Nier is Platinum's already dumbed down action mechanics dumbed down even further for Nier fans.

It looks pretty, they know how to animate, but mechanics wise it's toddler tier.

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In that fight I learned how to block properly.

Not that I didn't tried blocking before, I just totally missunderstood the introduction scene.

Doctor said "Press the directional + b from where the attack is coming from to parry"

Okay, good. Now I thought the game is more difficult than that and that I actually have to block from where the attack is coming from. Meaning, when Sam did the swing from below, I pressed Down + B in order to parry an attack from below.
When I got attacked from the sideway swings, I pressed into that direction.
I always fucked it up though, thought that parrying is just super hard and needs to be perfectly timed.

But no, I just saw a mechanic that wasn't there. And when I realized the grave mistake I made the game became fucking easy.

>>382388102
Nothing relative about it, it's way too short. Yes the biggest flaw with the combat is the over reliance on zandatsu, parry is way to overpowered and in classic Platinum fashion so is dodge. Cutting things is actually twice as satisfying with the Fox Blade then the slow motion pace breaking mechanic, it's completely broken of course but it feels much better.

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>>382388102

play some revengence difficulty, friendo.

I dunno if you know this, but platinum games (and any action game of this type, such as devil may cry or god hand) isn't meant to be played only once.

you're meant to play it until you have unlocked every single thing about your character 40 hours ago, now you're just trying to style and profile all over everything in your path in utter mastery of all the systems you have at your disposal.

play until you know every single move that every character does and how to react to the enemies.

play until you S rank every encounter in the game.

play until you FUCK the challenge with your cock of SKILL.

>>382384442
The only problem with the fight is that it is piss easy, even on the harder difficulties.

>Finally play Bayo 2 because emulation works well enough now
>Click on something you can read
>Title: Rules of Nature
I keep forgetting most of my favorite games are made by Platinum Games or at least Hideki was involved at some point. Fuck.

>>382388934
very hard is harder than revengeance

>>382386107

Honestly I think the pinnacle of mirror match boss fights will always be DMC3/4 with Virgil and Dante, respectively.

If they had more time to give Sam a more realistic moveset with actual logic behind it, it could have been amazing.

>>382387641
>maximum ______

That's a nice meme there yourself.

>>382387641
Sounds like someone doesn't run when the sun comes up.

>>382389262
why?

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>>382390086
Well, I'm not gonna start ranking wars here...

He does have a moveset, he just stops fucking using it 1/3rd of the way through the fight for no reason. At the beginning he's doing different multiple melee moves with different timings, he has dodge and counter moves, he has projectiles, he has parry and counter moves, he has unblockable moves, he has launchers he even has a charge move. Then you knock his sword away and he just goes fuck it, I'm just gonna back flip to the edge of the screen and do the same smoke signaled charge move over and over and over.

>>382391594
Because of how the Revengeance difficulty affects the parry mechanic. It's a meme difficulty.

>>382391905
Guessed so, in revengeance you can fuck up Sam in no time.

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>You will never have a metal gear game where you play as buff nanomachine armstrong and make america great again
I've had enough of this suffering

>>382384710
Eh, it wouldn't be that crazy by metal gear standards. Remember Raiden was just a head and spinal chord when the patriots made him a cyborg. Plus Sam wasn't chopped to bits like the other bosses were.

>>382384442
Honestly, it would have been a ton better if it didn't have the part where Sam doesn't have his sword. That part just felt slow

>>382391725
He has some kicks in the swordless state too. Also, he picks his sword back up and the move set resumes, though he does like the triple dash and jumping slash a lot in the final phase.

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>>382392680
>part of Sam's character was he was naturally human still, very old fashioned in this modern cyberized world
>bring him back as some frankenstein cyborg
>this would be a good way to bring him back instead of leaving him dead, a man out of time but given a fond farewell by an adversary that truly understood him

>>382393009
>Also, he picks his sword back up and the move set resumes

It really doesn't, he will just spam the back flip dash over and over.

>>382393123
fuck it man I just want more sam

>>382391594
Revengeance essentially allows you to one hit enemies when you get a perfect parry. Fights are short, either you die or they do. Nothing lasts long at all

>>382393518
There's always more prequels. A game of Sam tearing his way through the Brazilian cartels would be cool.

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>>382393123

>we don't actually see what happens to Sam's body
>every other boss is zandatsu'd

They left it open on purpose. Even George, who was sliced in half, was brought back. Sam was only stabbed in the gut. Nano machines and all that.

Anyway, I get your point. Sam died because he was true to the old ways. That's what made his death significant. But it really doesn't mean much in franchise like this when people are ''killed'' and brought back willy nilly.

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>>382393123
>>382394142

Plus I'll add that he already had a cyborg arm. So he had already compromised a little. It's not a huge stretch to say he wouldn't accept coming back.

>>382383907
It’s the only thing I’ve EVER!
KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!WN

>>382394142
IIRC there are some Japanese laws about doing Zandatsu-tier stuff to human beings. Also, he was stabbed in the chest/heart at the end.

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>>382394739

>IIRC there are some Japanese laws about doing Zandatsu-tier stuff to human beings

Ah, ok.

>Also, he was stabbed in the chest/heart at the end.

Whoops, I remembered it wrong. Either way though, worse things have been hand waved in Metal Gear before.

>>382394645
MEMORIES BROKEN

I'm still annoyed that there isn't more music that sounds like the soundtrack to this game.

Besides Blue Stahli and some of Celldweller's stuff, what else matches this games soundtrack?

>>382386107
Don't take his sword then

>>382386107
>not playing on revengence and parrying him so you can skip the swordless phase

3rd phase is the only one that's remotely punishing too, because of how similar to start up animations are for 360 slash, rock smash and charging slash (which all require different timing for dodging/parrying)

>>382391594
Parrying doesn't one hit enemies. Having said that, you can still cheese Very Hard with Ripper Mode and Zandatsu chaining, and enemies of Revengence are more aggressive and do more damage than VH. I've found them roughly even in difficulty, but Revengence is way more satisfying to play

>>382396767
>MGR
>Dodge timing

lol

>>382383907
>woah dude it was so hella f*ckin epic
"Cuhrayzee" gamers need to be put down.

>>382395552
THE TRUTH GOES UNSPOKEN

>>382383907
Man, that sneaking suit must be really something. Only one of his arms is mechanized, so the fact that he can withstand that HF Blade speaks volumes about the tech level. Imagine if Snake had one of those babies. Seriously, the Sneaking Suits in the series up to 4 could barely withstand kicks from mooks.

>>382396040
foo fighters

>>382396956
I'VE EVEN FORGOTTEN MY NAAAAAAAAAAAME

>>382396978

Snake crawled through a fucking microwave tunnel and didn't die.

Big Boss can't die outside of Fox DIE. It's their super power.

>>382396952
>what is offense-defense
>not using it to keep your combo going when parry won't counter hit an enemy

>>382397095
>what is reading comprehension

>>382396978
>that sneaking suit
It's an exoskeleton. Solidus had one too, with added tentacles.

>>382397087
That's just determination. The Octo-Camo suit itself was completely fried.

He'll, Snake didn't even use a sneaking suit in MG1 and 2.

>>382397315

The water in your body can't be determined. Snake is invincible.

Which is to say yeah, he doesn't need a sneaking suit.

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>>382386828
>>382387868
thiserooni

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>>382394739
>IIRC there are some Japanese laws about doing Zandatsu-tier stuff to human beings

What did he mean by this?

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>>382386828
A stranger I remain is terrible. Other than that, great list.

>>382388282
This is like saying Kamiya lost his touch after Devil May Cry because Okami doesn't have as much depth.

>>382397013
I DON'T KNOW THE SEASON

>>382397849
I don't how that has anything to do with what i said but Platinum never had the touch. MGR with nothing but it's gameplay would be trash.

Not saying they are not responsible for the rest, i honestly don't know.

>>382397615
What game is this exactly, and is it the English version? There are games that were developed in Japan with the intent of having this sort of content, and they release the uncut version in the West and censor it in Japan.

>>382384442
This.

>>382386828
Putting Red Sun that low? disgusting

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>>382398235
Ninja Gaiden Razor's Edge.

I am 99.9% sure it's the same everywhere though i can't vouch for lolcows like Deutschland and Straya. Sigma 2 was censored but they only removed part of the blood, enemies can still be cut up. They did censor the cutscenes though and there is no dismemberment there, but that happened for all regions so it was probably Sony reacting to some angry burger mom's letter.

>>382388934
S ranking every encounter sounds fun but half the encounters are fucking hidden

Worst part of all of platinums stuff imo I just wanna fight and score attack not explore the incredibly linear level and backtrack a lot

Also quit with VR mission/alfheims/Muspelheims I dont wanna fight enemies in a box with a long animation before I can retry

Also bayonetta needs restart current verse in menu really bad like MGR has restart at checkpoint