>http://wccftech.com/star-wars-batt lefront-ii-alpha-live

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WATCH

>>382354609
>Resistance jumptrooper
Rebel Alliance will never, ever be cool. Adding jetpacks won't change that.

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>>382356167
shut the fuck up republic meatbag ill fuck ur shit up

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>Jango Fett

Finally, superior Fett is back

Also, any chance we'll see the Flametroopers in-game?

>>382356914
Exactly why clone era is best! both sides exceptionally cool ..however this is ruined by the fact that they chose to use the revenge of the sith/clone wars high pitched childish shitty droid voices instead of the cool sounding attack of the clones or phantom menace droid voices.

>>382356914
The resistance isn't the Rebels, it's Disney garbage, which is even less cool than the Rebels.

>>382354609
Tell me when they add fucking two people allowed in one vehicle or fucking let them spawn On maps

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>>382354609
>Battlefront II leak
For a moment there I was confused as fuck, and thought that some early build of the actual Battlefront 2 leaked, but then I remembered that EA and DICE were shitting on the memories of the series.

>>382357582
Doubtful considering Boba used to have a flamethrower and it's gone, now. Flamethrowers are really fucking tricky to balance in a multiplayer game.

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>>382354609
They haven't learned a fucking thing.

>>382357725
Battlefront 2 was one of the first shooters I seriously got into. I spent evenings upon evenings just playing by myself in instant action, and I STILL think BF2-2 looks fantastic and I fully plan on picking it up. Fight me.

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>>382357817
They removed it? What was wrong?

Flametroopers could be a Specialist/Hero unlock, with limited fuel reserves to prevent spam

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>>382357936
>DICE employee tries to sell anons his game
Can you unironically tell me the last time anon was hyped for an unreleased game in the past 5 to 7 years?

>>382358005
I think it was just bad. It left Boba really vulnerable to just getting shot in a low damage format and in a high damage format you have a really evasive character with a good ranged gun who can hit shred Jedi with a weapon they can't block in close quarters. It's tricky.

>>382357817
>>382358005
Both Boba and Jango will now use their flamethrower as a melee attack.

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>Battle Points
>Vehicles needing to be bought
>Multiple heroes active at once
>Star Cards
>Prestige Classes
>Crates
Just a reminder

>>382358523
>there are people on /v/ who will defend all of this

>>382358523
I have literally no problem with the first 5

crates can go fuck off though

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>>382357821
Oh no, free content updates at the cost of the same pay to skip grind crates they've had since Battlefield 3.

The fact that all post-release updates are going to be free (I'll be right there with you if they go back on it) tells me that they have learned something, I don't get this crates automatically ruin the game meme. Having optional crates that don't impact the game for whales to eat up while all the content updates remain free is better than what we've had since the beginning, buying your updates as DLC or expansions. A paid game with free updates forever just isn't realistic for a big company anymore when literally all of your competition is some kind of micro-transactions.

I've yet to buy a single loot crate from any game and I don't feel like its affected me at all.

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>>382357821
>>382358691
If it pays for the free DLC than I'm all for it, so long as they actually fucking release content unlike overwatch and titanfall2
>>382358352
I hope that's the case because aiming down sights by clicking the toggle stick on console was retarded for bobafett on the first EA battlefront. They could also just end up remap the melee button for them too though

>>382358523
>Battle Points/Vehicles needing to be bought
I can feel wanting fixed vehicle spawns but I don't really mind the system, it's basically a modernization of the old system where the best performing player got to play the hero only now they can buy other shit with it like more powerful infantry or various tiers of vehicles, I think it's kind of fascinating - B2s actually get to be walking tanks now and Clone Commandos get to be around without needing them to be 'balanced.'
>Multiple heroes active at once
I don't really care, personally.
>Star Cards
They weren't real great in BF1, admittedly. I'm going to have to try the beta before I form an opinion.
>Prestige Classes
You're actually going to have to fill me in here.
>Crates
Couldn't care less.

>>382358691
>>I have literally no problem with the first 5
>Battlepoints
This is just a shitty system
>Vehicles needing to be bought
Everyone will spend their battlepoints on elite classes and heroes, as vehicles are too unwieldy and Ships are useless since you can't do shit with them. Early Gameplay footage shows this.
>Multiple heroes active at once
Boy i can't wait to just be killed over and over by several heroes at once. Also Heroes are cheap, meaning that there will be heroes running around all the time.
>Star Cards
Star cards in this game are more than just abilities, and have rarity aswell. I can't wait to grind for credits, to spend on crates, to get random better abilities because i don't want to microtransaction them :^).
>Prestige Classes
Prestige classes aren't just classes with more abilities, they have more health, lower cooldowns and more damage, meaning, that no matter what you do, there will always be players with classes that are just objectively stronger than yours, which is bullshit. They are already confirmed as preorder bonuses, and probably as microtransactions soon too.

>>382359592
>Prestige Classes
>You're actually going to have to fill me in here.

Same as vehicles, you need to buy them.

>>382359793
Oh, you mean the elite classes like the B2/Commando/Jump Trooper?

I actually like those.

>>382354609
>Loot crates
Besides the game being shit this just crosses the line. Free DLC maps don't matter when you game isn't fun as it filled with microtransactions

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A genie tells you that you can either
>have new BF II
or
>BF II remastered

Which do you choose?

>SBD is a special unit
>no droidekas

>>382357817
>MOHAA did perfectly balanced flamethrowers fucking 16 years ago.
It really fucking isn't.

>>382360048
I can play BF2 perfectly fine without mods or anything so no remaster needed maybe bring back Pandemic then we're talking.

>>382360048
New BFII. Old BFII is dated control wise, and we don't need more nostalgia cash-in remasters

>>382359793
>>382359847
No, those are elite classes. Prestige classes are normal classes that have been leveled up to a certain level, the made into a better class. So its basically normal classes that are stronger and better than normal classes.

>>382360042
I don't really get it. If your ONLY means of leveling up and getting new abilities are Star Cards that's lame and greedy, but if it's a cosmetics and the potential to get stuff you can get through leveling up early who cares

>>382360248
What works for MoH isn't going to work for every game, I think that's pretty obvious. Rising Storm can make flamethrowers work pretty easy because the mechanics work around them seamlessly.

>>382360342
Source?

>>382359707
>Early Gameplay footage shows this.

You have just disproven your vehicle, hero and prestige classes points by yourself.

Heroes aren't cheap, they're 5000 points right now and will most likely be more expensive in the final game. The only reason that everyone in the alpha game footage became a hero is because everyone wanted to play as fucking Darth Maul or Rey.

Star Cards don't matter, everyone can get them and you don't need to fucking buy crates to get the better ones.

Prestige classes were in Battlefront 1 and 2 so I don't know why you think they are unfair.

>>382360934
Not him, but I just remembered Prestige classes were a thing in original BF, actually. I'm not actually a huge fan of that mechanic.

>by EA

Put it in the garbage

>>382360934
>>382361061
What do you actually mean by prestige classes? Like Clone Commander,Jet Trooper, Magna Guard, Droideka, Wookie, Bothan, Imperial Officer, and Dark Trooper? Because those unlocked after a certain amount of kills. Do you mean the weapons were reward weapons if you got shit like frenzy, the stamina boost, and damage boost permanently ?

>>382361559
I THINK the dude is talking about permanent class upgrades like the damage upgrade/burst fire rifle you got for the basic trooper that killed in like one burst but I haven't seen a source

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>Sev is de-
huh??

>>382357725
There's already been like two different builds of free radical battlefront leaked, plus most of the cutscenes

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>>382354609
>unopened crates

>>382354609
Can we finally get some conclusion on sev?

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>>382358921
>if it pays for free dlc
>paying for free DLC

>>382363896
>>382361735

>>382364545
>local man found to be illiterate
battlefront 2 is going to have free content updates

microtransactions off to the side help justify and pay for continued work on the game

and before you even think about saying "EA doesn't need money lol" that is not how things work in a large corporation. You need constant cash flow to justify new projects, and this is a far nicer way of doing so then "pay 20 dollars for 4 new maps and a class that should have been in release from the start"

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>Don't these clankers know I was the second human spectre?

>>382365167
>defending microtransactions

>>382365167
as long as it's purely cosmetics i don't give a shit, otherwise EA can go fuck itself

>>382365552
Honestly no buzzwords

how are small pay to skip grind microtransactions more offensive to you than huge portions of game being walled off for 20$ each

>>382363896
He's dead jim. The events of the game happened just before ep3. Clone wars animated was before that. You can argue canon. But Sev from republic commando is dead.

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>>382360840
>Source?
The site used to say prestige classes, but now it just says upgraded versions of them, but thats probably the same thing

>>382357821
EA going from one scam business model to the next with each successive installment

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Can we all agree to riot and burn down DICE if this guy isn't in the game?

>>382365438
>CARTH

>>382365682
They're both shit. How about making the fucking game and selling it as a complete package instead of gutting parts of it to sell it as DLC or Pay-To-Win garbage?

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>>382360048
BF II remastered
Imagine the mods

>>382365879
I can say that I know for sure, 100% sure in fact. That he will not be in the game.

Get your torches ready...

It sounds like they're going with the Halo 5 model which is much better than what they did last time, new maps/modes etc won't be behind paywalls so the player base doesn't get fragmented, it'll just be loot crate stuff instead for cosmetics and probably some weapons.

>>382366004
This, vanilla BF2 is so fucking hard to mod it made me stressed for an entire afternoon

>>382361735
This was way before Kashyyk
Also the only thing that Disney made right was to decanonize his fate

>>382365940
But than how could they nickel and dime idiots?

>>382361061
>>382361559
Basically this
>>382361650
The site used to say prestige classes, but now it just says upgraded classes, but thats probably the same thing. Here: >>382365815
The thing about prestige classes in games is usually that they are stronger than normal classes in most ways, and i think thats bullshit. This would mean that in any normal fight, the prestige class almost always wins, since its just the same class, but better.

>>382366119
The games are not canon and never happened. He's alive

>>382366329
That's exactly what I said

>>382358523
Battle points plays fine
Vehicles needing to be bought plays fine
Multiple heroes active at once surprisingly plays fine since they're a lot squishier than old BF and new BF heroes
Star Card system is annoying, but slightly improved.
I have no idea what prestige classes are
Crates are annoying, but is an improvement over the old game's progression system.

>/v/ falls for the scam: part 2
Seriously, how many times do you retards have to go through the same scam routine before it clicks that maybe you shouldn't buy a piece of garbage? From all that has been and revealed, it's a glorified Battlefront 1 DLC. It's casual, boring, and not interesting at all. I seriously hope an anon out there is screencapping shill posts so we can post them all when you all inevitably make the hundreds of buyers remorse threads like you did with BF1. But go ahead, I already know this routine. You'll LOVE the beta, 3 days in you'll call the game comfy, and by the end of the week you'll make WHAT WENT WRONG!? threads.

>>382365682
Because it's just a bullshit cash grab.
They aren't funding "free additional content" they are going to be funding "we give you content made before launch and call it FREE DLC! LOOK HOW FREE IT IS AREN'T WE GENEROUS?"
People who are too dumb or lazy to actually play the game will defend this, of course. I will defend when Bf4 did battlepacks but battlepacks in bf4 are not at all the same beast as what games are getting now.
Look into Halo 5s req system if you want to know more about that.

>>382365630
I think you can get star card unlocks early through crates, but DICE has had similar crate systems in since around Battlefield 3 and they were never really a big deal, DICE is surprisingly decent at making it so starter equipment is enough to make due

>>382365940
Expansions have been a practice since the fucking '90s, anon. Developers continue working on a game after release as incentive to buy it, continue playing it, or tell your friends about it. We used to have subscriptions for games that you had to pay over and over again forever.

How is "optional payment for certain things that aren't upgrades" worse than literally everything we've had prior?

>>382360934
>vehicle, hero and prestige classes points by yourself.
how?
>Heroes aren't cheap, they're 5000 points right now and will most likely be more expensive in the final game
5000 points isn't that much, at least to me. Either way the number of heroes will just be far more than earlier games, which i don't like.
> Star Cards don't matter, everyone can get them and you don't need to fucking buy crates to get the better ones
You don't? I've just seen articles and videos that just show crates.
>Prestige classes were
See this >>382366178

>Prepare for some radical restructuring, Commandos
I love that line

>>382354609
>The original film trilogy is superior to the prequel trilogy.

>Almost every medium related to the prequel trilogy, video games, shows, novels is superior to any original trilogy medium.

How does that even happen? Kylo Katarn stuff is like the only exception I can think of.

>>382366508
Titanfall 2 already proved you wrong, though. The content was released slowly and incrementally and we saw parts of the development process. It was slow as hell, but I just played other games in-between content updates.

>>382358914
Same way with overwatch. Say what you will about the game, but, it's microtransactions are 100% optional and have no affect on the gameplay whatsoever; unlike games like planetside 2 where players who don't pay are at a disadvantge. Complaining that it takes advantage of people with compulsive tendencies never seemed like a strong arguement to me. But I'm autistic and lack empathy, so, maybe it is worse than I think.

>>382366518
>expansions
No one ITT is talking about expansions you fucking idiot.

>>382366606
The prequel's clone wars setting is one of the coolest things I've ever seen

Just everything about it, what would've made it better was if Jango survived Geonosis, then it would be GOAT

>>382366606
>Kyle Katarn.

Oops. That's a weird fuck up. If Kylo Katarn ever becomes a character you read it here first.

>>382366685
expansions are just fucking DLC lmao no matter how you want to argue that they were ~bigger~ or whatever

you're paying for content developed after the game's release

with this system everything you can pay for is optional and they'll release actual content updates for free

>>382366606
Because the Clone Wars and the political set up to the take over of the Republic by Palpatine and its transformation into the Empire is an insanely interesting idea which wasn't pulled off insanely well in the movies leading to a lot of games, novels, and comics to fill in the blanks and expand on the ideas Lucas had.
The Original Trilogy is as simple and straightforward as it gets so adding all these additional side stories and making it more complex is fucking pointless. The entire OT took inspiration from cheesy action/adventure stories. Adding more cheese and adventure is fine, but then you have fucking hacks with their heads up their assholes writing shit like Luuke Skywalker and the Vong

>>382366757
And Darth Maul surviving Episode I.

Yes, he doesn't actually die, but I would have loved to see him in his prime in the movies while not being bat-shit crazy.

>>382366635
Still not a good system. The game just launched with no content and then they ported the majority of it from the first game over a few months.At least in Tf2 it's only some cosmetics like in.
Look at EA Battlfront, look at Halo 5, look at For Honor.

Modern gaming development is a sham and borderline fraud.

>>382366995
And than you have an entire era of stuff way before the movies that is arguably some of the best Star Wars media ever created.

>>382366601

Not only are Clone Commandos coming but apparently they are adding commando droids

>>382367154
CIS scum had commandos?

>>382367154
>yfw they look nothing like the commandos from Republic Commando

>>382367021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeG215-yu-k
He will avenge us

>>382367112
Most of it is good yeah, but anything post-Kotor2 is really fucking terrible.
>Revan names his son Vaner
George Lucas couldn't get more fucking poetic

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>>382358921
>Titanfall 2 not releasing content
>Content updates 2 months in a row

>>382354609
Will never EVER be as good as the original or PSP Battlefront games so what is the point in caring?

>>382367297
The confederacy of independent systems had tons of specialty droids

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>>382367320

they are gonna look like this

>>382367112
Kylo Ren is struggling between Light and Dark and yet they cast out the entire Old Republic era and claim it as non-canon.

You know who knows both the Light and Dark Side of the Force better than anyone? Motherfucking Darth Revan. I enjoyed Episode VII but making Revan non-canon was stupid as fuck. They had so much to work with the kind of films they're going for. No Jedi or Sith but a balance that only a few have achieved.

>>382367628
Revan isn't entirely confirmed uncanon, but it's highly likely he is.

>>382358691
>Killstreaks get you a tank or a plane

Nah son thats some ol' bullshit.

>>382366329
if republic commando never happened then he didn't exist in the first place

>>382367628
>we will never get a scene of Kylo talking to Revan in a vision

>>382367628
>Revan's spirt splits into two and his dark side starts a coup in the sith empire
That's Luuke tier

>>382367628
When did they non-canon all of the old republic era? When disney bought it?
What about SWTOR? And why bother making something that's like 4000 years in the past non-canon?

>>382366836
There's a big difference between making a game and selling it then making an expansion for the game vs making a game, gutting 20% of it, then selling that 20% as DLC. God damn nigger, you're stupid.

>>382367786
It is, i fucking hate SWTOR so much.

>>382367606
These guys were fucking hardcore so that's great. One of the best additions the Clone Wars made.

>>382367902
>That it aint sheev tier nam arc

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>>382366637
I'm a giant Planetside fan and I think part of the reason shit like this and Overwatch doesn't bother me at all is that it's fucking inconsequential compared to what PS2 got

PS2 was literally ruined thorugh microtransactions. New players were stomped into the dirt until they decided to buy or leave and the grind took MONTHS if you didn't pay before you were strong enough to be truly versatile in a fight. They specifically didn't release faction weapons over common pool weapons because more people could pay for them. Camo (which was actually useful in the setting) was locked behind paywalls, and it got to the point where it was nigh-impossible to identify enemy players at a distance because all of the whales just colored their armor hot pink or what have you.

Anybody who says that making a game free to play or allowing players to just pay for items they want is a better system than optional crates is a fucking FOOL.

Unless you want to attack the entire god damn video games industry and convince EVERYONE to stop charging for anything in a paid game (which will never happen without government regulation) you're better off accepting that a system like this, where you pay once and have the option for cosmetics or slight shortcuts is the best we're going to fucking get. We had expansions, subscriptions, DLC, now this. Shit hasn't changed.

Fuck.

>>382358914
>8914▶>>382366637
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Loot crates are find if they're just an optional way to gain the content you WANT.

Loot crates are the absolute definition of cancer if the only way to unlock abilities and equipment is through RNG.

The notion that I can level up 90 times and not get the specific gun or ability I want is the definition of cancer in gaming. There HAS to be a linear way to gain the things that I want.

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>reee muh crates, muh perks

did you retards not play any of the battlefields? You literally start as a poverty pirate with no gear and one gun. You had to do that longass grind for extra perks/attachements/tools/vehicle perks or pay $50 good goy bucks for all unlocks. I've always hated the model, but this isn't any different.

>>382367956
SOME CLONES ARE BRED
MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG

>>382367628
Why would he even be brought up? Revan walked the line between light and dark seeing advantages to both sides.

Kylo wants to be a full dark sider but some of the teachings of Luke and Anakin's redemption remain stuck in the back of his mind pulling him back but he fights against it.

>>382367826
Disney said EVERY was non-canon. Including SWTOR. The logic being is that if you make an exception for one thing people will start saying "Well this doesnt contradict anything, make this all" and eventually that could create problems if they lose track of what is and isnt canon.

So they said fuck it and just called all of it non-canon. It doesnt mean it didnt happen, just that it is not covered yet

>>382367324
I actually really enjoyed the final dual between Kenobi and Darth Maul. At first it seemed disappointing but it's since grown on me.

>He will avenge us.
Whoever came up with that final line was a genius.

>>382368102
UNLESS YOU GOT BIRTH DEFECTS YOUR GOING TO WAR

>>382368052
Being shit for years doesn't mean it's suddenly okay because the other games do it.

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>>382368052
>you had to unlock shit in battlefield 1942

Reminder old Revan was almost made canon by appearing in Clone wars with his masked look but lucas hates the force seen in anything but black and white and shot down the idea. You can see his model online

>>382368191
It's my all time favorite dual in all of star wars lore

>>382367859
Do you honestly believe that people didn't start working on expansions before the game officially released back in the day, or translate concepts that didn't make it into the base game into one?

Furthermore, do you have any proof at all that most DLC packs are made from content they finished then deliberately cut? A lot of fighting games do that, I know. But you're talking pretty widely here.

>>382368102
>songs like this or movies like "Saving Private Ryan" being allowed in Sheev's Clone Wars Republic or his Empire.

>>382368387
Yeah I loved it too. A lot of people didn't seem to get it. It was the final conclusion to everything they had building up to with both Kenobi and Maul. Maul was trapped in the past and with his old teachings, while Kenobi was virtually enlightened and fighting for a true purpose that goes beyond mere rage and revenge.

>takes up the initial offensive stance from the Phantom Menace
>Maul responds
>then move into the more defensive one from the later movies
>BHTFO within 3 seconds
>Maul realises he had absolutely no chance

Perfect.

>>382368692
Do you think maul went there knowing he would die?

>>382368692
Wasn't Obi's final stance Qui-Gon's, and he deliberately did it to bait Maul into attempting the same kill move he used on him?

>>382368860
I missed it at first but ya people pointed that out. I detest Filoni and Rebels and a lot of this pottery shit but I have to admit that was really well done, excellent job to whoever came up with that.

>>382368804
That's sort of how I interpreted it. Like, his mission was a suicidal one. He had no real intention of surviving. He was just driven by pure hate.

>>382368860
>Wasn't Obi's final stance Qui-Gon's, and he deliberately did it to bait Maul into attempting the same kill move he used on him?

I can't exactly remember. I thought he did Qui-Gon's first and then moved onto his expert defensive one.

>>382368426
You're still not getting it, do you? Of course devs started working on games prior to release. Games ALWAYS finish maybe a month before release. The difference is that devs used to actually make the entire games THEN work on the expansion. They didn't make the game the gut parts of it to sell it as DLC months down the line. You can tell that the games get gutted now a days because the files for DLC or Expansions tend to be left in the games files.

>>382368191
>is he the chosen one?

>>382369126
Or.

OR.
They started working on expansion/update content in a late build of the game and left shit in there.

There are multiplayer games with free updates where future multiplayer content shows up in the files though it isn't finished yet. It wasn't "gouged to be sold later," they're just left over.

Not to say that holding content back for DLC never happens but I don't think it's quite as common as you're suggesting and to imply that it never happened in the ~good old days~ is ridiculous

>>382368804
He probably went there because he had nothing going on his life. Killing Obi-Wan was the only purpose he really had. If he had killed him his victory probably would have been short lived.

I just imagine a depressed Darth Maul standing in the desert like an asshole with not a whole lot left to do. Maybe train Ezra. Maybe find Luke and train him. But with Mauls aggressive training and no really elegance or discipline none of them would have had the power to defeat Vader or the Emperor.

Does anyone agree with this?

>dooku should've been introduced in episode 1 and should've died near the end of episode 3

>jango should've died in episode 3

>grievous should've been introduced in episode 2

>maul should've "survived" episode 1 and been in the rest of the movies

>>382369036
I don't think he was driven by hate much anymore, it felt like he just didn't know anything else to live for.

>>382369535
>when you realize Obi and Maul both wanted the same thing in the end and Luke really did avenge them both
>>382369631
>life stripped away from you
>brother died
>only one thing left going for him

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>>382369535
>>382369631
>>382369757
It's a melancholy kind of feel.

>>382369569
That's a few too many villains to cover over the course of three movies. These films already have too much going on.

I think the problem with Lucas' Prequel vision is that it's too... Intricate. Of course there's all the problems with his dumb ideas and bad casting calls but there's simply too much to cover. The original trilogy isn't really telling the story of a world, it's telling the story of a small set of characters with the world going on in the background. In the Prequels the world is a massively important part of the plot and you just can't find the time to have big bombastic action war sequences, have small character moments like that, an ongoing romance, and political intrigue. Not in under 3 hours.

>>382369569
>maybe
>no
>yes
>no
>>382369757
They were both victims of the Emperors actions, two sides of a very strange coin. It would have been more interesting if Obi Wan had just talked Maul down, helped him see the light side. Could have been a neat greyish jedi. He would have to die within a similar timeframe anyways though, either hunted by Vader or Boba.

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I think one of the main problems with Battlefront 2 is the name. If it was named something else I feel like there would be far less issue with the game.

>>382369416
>They started working on expansion/update content in a late build of the game and left shit in there.
So they started working on shit that could have been in the game prior to the game being finished yet they decide to sell it separately? Even if that was the case, the game and the expansion aren't the same thing. They won't share the exact same files between eachother. There's no logical reason for DLC files to exist in the files of the base game if the DLC files were worked on separately from the main game, regardless of when the DLC started production. You're not helping yourself here by trying to defend this shit.

>>382370396
You're still ignoring the assertion that the majority of games don't do this and that old games with 'expansions' still did this. There's barely a functional difference between expansions and DLC because we get expansions today that are merely called "DLC" by Bethesda games, for one.

>>382370285
That's what a lot of us have been saying since Battlefront. Just make a different name and nobody would mind, but by calling it Battlefront (and falsely appealing to nostalgia to sell their game) they gave people a set of false ideals and expectations for what the game would be and the game itself doesn't live up to that at all.
Just call it Star Wars: [subtitle]

>>382370609
The argument differentiating DLC and expansions being "one gouges out parts of the game and one doesn't" is just weak because that requires you to insinuate that all DLC are like that and expansions never did that

>>382370779
No one differentiated DLC and expansions. DLC is a broad term., Everything from expansion packs to micro-transactions and even patches are "DLC".

>>382370609
And you're still trying to defend EA's retarded scamming tactics like an idiot despite being BTFO by other anons hours ago.

>>382371030
But that's literally exactly how this conversation started.
>Developers need to stop gutting parts of the game and selling them later!
>Expansions have been doing that too, since the '90s.
>Nobody mentioned expansions!
>Expansions are the same thing as DLC
>No!

>>382360215
How would you balance them without turning them into glass canons?

>>382371467
Hell, this argument isn't even relevant to this game because BF2-2 doesn't even have post-game DLC, so they say

>>382365815
Ok, now that seems kike pay2win which is and always has been bullshit. I'll wait to see how the game plays then.

>>382371623
It does, it's just supposedly going to be free but they added more micro-transactions in the base game.

>>382371598
Make them high priced, relatively fragile without their shield, fairly slow deployed. A lot of firepower in places where tanks can't go.

>>382365815
I remember BF1-2's pre-order bonuses made it sound like you were getting upgrades too when you were just getting dumb fast-tracks

the guy at my gamestop was like "you'll get han solo's PISTOL" to my brother without mentioning you get it through gameplay, that's part of the point of pre-order bonuses

>>382365438
>>382365928
>Something is bothering Scorch

>>382371467
>>Expansions have been doing that too, since the '90s.
Proofs? Also proofs that, if that is the case, that it was as bad as it is now?

>>382372160
micro transactions for a chance to get things you can easily get through gameplay. They aren't gouging out content.

>>382371598
Make them as OP as they should be but limit them to only a certain number on the field at any time. They're slow unless they're rolling around and make their shields decent but not too strong.

>>382372307
Someone already commented on how microtransactions are bullshit ITT. they disrupt balance more than you think they would.

>>382372263
I'm eating now and I really don't feel like digging that deep so you can win the argument, but I starkly remember expansions of old re-implementing cut content from the base game.

As for your other point:
I think the practice is more common now, but I don't think it's enough to differentiate between DLC and expansions as if they're different things on that merit.

>>382354609
>Resistance Jumptrooper
why are they called the resistance when they're the controlling government

>>382372671
No one tried arguing that expansions and DLC are different. Not anymore anyway. Maybe when Expansions were discs you had to buy, but not anymore.

>>382372456
How in the case of nufront 2? Anybody from the Alpha commenting?

>>382372678
They're not, The resistance are basically old rebels still being unofficial rebels in places controlled by the order or whatever they're called while the actual government's capital is blown up by the death star

basically: excuse to do rebels and empire again for nostalgiabux

>>382372307
>you can easily get through gameplay
You mean through tedious grinding or bullshit skinner boxes?

>>382372243
Scorch was far more pleasant to be around than Carth Onasi.

And I'm one of the few people that actually liked Carth Onasi.

>DOWN YOU GO

>>382368027
I'm talking about just purely cosmetic add-ons in loot boxes. Loot boxes that unlock things that change gameplay is unacceptable. Is that what's happening in BF2: 2?

>>382372824
>tedious grinding
Playing the game? Dice game grinding is nowhere near as long as free to play games, it's maybe like one or two days, much less with exp boosters that drop from crates

If you don't agree with the concept of player progression in a shooter period that's a fair opinion to take but i don't think that's the kind of thing that happens nowadays

>>382372987
>If you don't agree with the concept of player progression in a shooter period that's a fair opinion to take but i don't think that's the kind of thing that happens nowadays
If there is player progression it should be rewarding skill and not random bullshit meant to get people hooked like fucking mobile game shit.

>>382373172
Is there linear player progression? As far as I know nobody from the alpha has said if there's only crates or crates and level up progression.

>>382373365
Preorder page confirmed there are different rarity levels for items, attachments, upgrades for vehicles, and classes have levels.

>>382365167
Halo 5 did the same thing. If people buying packs/crates/whatever gets me free dlc I have no fucking problem with that.

>>382373365
None of that is confirmation that there's zero linear progression.

Classes had levels in Battlefield 1. Cosmetic skins for weapons and tanks. Tanks had unlocks for using them, like every battlefield game.

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>>382354609
Honestly if I can't customize my clone and make my trooper a 212th, my jet trooper a 2nd Airborne etc.
I'm just not gonna fucking buy the game.

>>382357821
This. Uninstalled after seeing le epic loot crates xDD meme. Game runs and plays like shit anyway. Nice to see the EA shills are here making threads shitting up /v/

>>382369036
> I thought he did Qui-Gon's first and then moved onto his expert defensive one.
Nope. He does his defensive Soresu stance first, and then the powerful Ataru stance. Maul even tried the same trick he killed qui gon with, which is bashing him with his hilt, but that was obi wans bait all along.

>>382372065
>Ok, now that seems kike pay2win
Exactly what i was trying to say. "Pay for upgraded classes" is literally just pay to win, and used to pressure people into microtransactions.

Okay, definitively here

Has anyone who has ACTUALLY PLAYED THE ALPHA been able to confirm if crates are the only means of progression?

>>382374592

Can I have your alpha?

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>>382357348

>>382366491

Underrated post

Do people still play BF2 on PC?

>>382375583
Overrated post

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>>382375793
Yeah, there are some community servers out there thanks to gameranger and SWBFIISpy, although they are kinda empty. I actually played a few rounds myself last week, even while playing mostly against bots the game is great fun.

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Man at this rate EA better mess up battlefront 2 because its really breaking /v/ right now. weebs on suicide watch

>>382376695
>Man at this rate EA better mess up battlefront 2
Don't worry, they will.

>>382376695
The game already looks like shit.

>>382376695
>>382376761
even if eafront 2 is shit people will still defend it just like they still defend eafront 1.

don't buy it, wait 1-2 weeks and see if it is good

>>382376838
even if eafront 2 is good people will still shit on it
what's your point

>>382377115
ratings only matter when they support what i think

>Coruscant speeders
>Coruscant isn't listed as a planet

???

>>382376695
>P2W card bullshit
>No spawnable vehicles
>Geonosis not in sight

Don't worry, they are following the right path to shit all over it.

>>382377581
This isn't the full roster.

Fucking Vader and Luke aren't on here, are you nuts?

>>382377636
Geonosis sucks anyway. Terrible map.

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>>382377636
No respawning vehicles will kill the game. Also does this mean no space carrier battles?

>>382377927
>no respawning vehicles will kill the game

on whose authority?

>>382377829
>>382377897
I'd rather play Polis Massa. Geonosian shits jumping all over the place was fucking annoying.

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>>382378035
Mine

>>382377927
>no space carrier battles?

One of the only campaign missions we know about is going from a fighter to a space ship and fucking up the ship from the inside, remains to be seen if that'll come to MP

>>382378096
The senate will decide your fate.

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>>382378196
I AM the Senate

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>>382378262
Not yet.

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>>382378346
It's treason then
AAAAUAGAUAAAAUHUAGH

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>===================Grenades===========================
>Bacta

Its nice that they kinda put engineers back into the game
But where the fuck are my favorite droids at

The original battlefront games should just be resold with official servers then being remade like this half assed

>>382379257
This

>>382366097

I don't fucking know how people do it.

The fact that a modding community has survived to this day is incredible.

>>382378085
Would you play Umbara?

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>Game is canon according to EA and Disney
>has Rey fighting alongside Clone Troppers against CISscum during the invasion of Naboo
>she also meets Maul

Wow, Rey sure is amazing right?
She already was a masterpilot, master pistol shooters, force manipulator (without ever training it) AND Kylo Ren destroyer.
She is now also a fucking time traveler and responsible for all the good things that happend in the OT and prequels.

Rey is the best character Star Wars ever had.
Thanks Kathleen Kennedy for making Star Wars a better franchise.

>>382380098
Better than the prequels

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>>382380098
YAAAAS QUEEN SLAY
Boba also appears, to elevate his "overrated OT secondary character" status.

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>>382380543
>their face when people still buy it

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>>382380484
No, Kathleen is a vile witch responsible of turning SW into a shitpile of spaceshit mixed with political agendas and Bratz dolls.
Luckily /ourjedi/ Hamill calls her shitty movies out everytime he can.

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>>382380686
>Xenomorphs are canon in the SW universe

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>mfw rewatching the prequels and clone wars after watching the shitpiles that were TFA and Rogue One

I am sorry Lucas.
I should have never doubted you

>>382380792
movies are supposed to entertain, if youre not entertained than yes it was a hack fraud of a movie
if it was fun to watch, then it did its job
Just like videogames

>>382378710
i love the sheev spin and all that but palpatine shouldnt have had a lightsaber. sith shouldve used sith swords or some shit and only fallen jedi used sabers like dooku and anakin

Reminder that crate content is a direct upgrade, meaning you can effectively skip grind (that is totally random) by paying.

Reminder that /v/ is currently defending this.

>>382354609
>/v/ is still having nu-battlefront 2 threads
it's like you people have forgotten this game is made by the same people who made nu-battlefront 1: EA

I heard the gunplay is kinda mediocre from people in the alpha
That it's still nowhere near as good as Battlefield games in that aspect

>>382381221
I liked Rogue One but TFA was just fucking bleh. Wish there were more movies in Star Wars about characters other than fucking jedi and sith.

>>382378506
Fucking Sheev has elevated to heights unseen and beyond.

>>382381221
Lucas is fucking terrible who got lucky with making Star Wars. The prequels are legitimately bad movies with a bad story that the only thing they had going for it was a good setting.

TFA was better then the prequels, even if it was just ANH 2 Electric Boogaloo

>>382380098
Is this some sort of ironic post?

>>382383308
>who got lucky making star wars
it was a group effort that made the movies good
these things just dont magically happen

actors were allowed to talk about how their character should act in certain scenes as well as lucas was helped out by 2 other directors while making the film

go and watch the behind the scenes footages from the laserdisc versions of star wars, they have show a lot of how the movies were made in the gritty details

>>382354609
>super star destroyer

literally what

Reminder that TLJ will be even worse than TFA

>Snoke isn't a giant
>just an ugly dude in a golden bathrobe
>apparently funded Starkiller Base and all the other First Order shit with his wealth
>Luke is gray now and needs to get saved by Rey
>he also dies at the end
>entire movie is a ESB ripoff

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>>382365438
>Don't these clankers know I was suddenly gay in the third game out of nowhere?

>>382385261
That is a thing in Star Wars.

>>382386305
>Snoke isn't a giant
Why would you even think he would be giant? Did you think the Emperor had a giant head because of his hologram in ESB?

>>382386753
The point is that he is just an ugly human.
Nothing interesting

Played battlefront 1 trial for the first time yesterday. Gunplay felt pretty good but it was obvious content was lacking. If battlefront 2 has some decent maps itll be worth. No droidekas is worrying tho

>>382382782
The problem with Battlefront 1 wasn't as much a pure quality issue as it was that it was deliberately rushed out as a shins-deep casual arcade game made to get normie money from the TFA hype.

>>382387518
Mind you this is its own bag of worms having your first game essentially be a scam to take advantage of hype but the E3 gameplay already made this one look leagues better and most of the dudes that got to play the demo had good things to say about it. I'm going to wait and see, but I have a decent feeling about this one.

Campaign and free updates do a lot for me. In any case there's a free beta in fall so that's basically a demo

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>>382387747
>Rebels even at its best even with Thrawn and Maul and Ashoka still can't compare on average to the quality of post-season 2 TCW.
Say what you will about Lucas but at least the man's OCD, autism, and passion lead him to funding personal projects to expand the universe and TCW really picked up in every facet when Lucas decided to personally support the series from his own coffers.

>>382357821
The only reason to get mad about crates is if they lock straight upgrades behind them

It's like how people get mad at the battlepacks in battlefield even though all you get is a bunch of skins, xp boosts and a million variations of the same attachments you have already