I think 30fps actually benefits this game. The way it's

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>>382325219
>All memes aside, the framerate honestly is cinematic.
This is cute bait that only makes me a bit angry on the inside. It's late, but I hope you get lots of you's anon.

>>382325219
'cinematic 30fps' is a fucking meme.

>ask yourself why games don't run at 24fps like films
>realise that 24fps would be stuttering and almost unplayable
>now realise that the thing you're defending is 6fps away from being unplayable

>>382325219
>I think 30fps actually benefits this game.

60fps would be better

>>382327246
I guess people weren't actually able to play all those N64 and PS titles back then.

Hate this thread

>>382328954
>consolefags

eternal kek

>>382325219
60fps is a meme anyway

If it was actually important don't you think devs would make it happen

>>382330838
They do on PC

>>382330892
nobody cares about PC gaming, not even PC developers. How's your latest indie crafting open world moba 8 bit bullshit going? Or do you only play console ports?

Computer engineer here. The human eye can't even notice past 24 fps anyways. It's the disconnect between the monitor and the game that let's you realize if there's a frame rate drop. If we had monitors that held a steady 24 frames then every game would look as clear as movies do.

>>382331640
Destiny 2 is 60 on PC and a locked 30 on console, even on the One X

>>382325219
>you need 30fps for smears and blur

>>382333092
Said no one. But, in order to get the authentic cartoon feel, you need 30fps, yes.

>>382330838
Yeah, everyone knows graphics, story and scripted gameplay is way more important

>>382325219
It helps the visuals but get in the way of the gameplay.
30 FPS means that the control is polled only 30 times per second, which in a platformer game means you have less control over where crash will actually land for example. It's just less options, specially when going in a high speed.

>>382333178
Authentic would mean way less than that, some animation is 12 FPS depending if it's done in twos or not>>382333306

>>382325219
I think the game looks great and can't wait to play it tonight but I think that's completely retarded to think that 30fps is ever beneficial in any way.

>>382332791
Even movies and cinematics feels choppy to me now. I know that you're bait but this is suffering.

>>382325219
Weren't the original games 30fps?

I don't notice it since i don't have much reference for Crash and if the PS1 games were 60fps i haven't touched them in like 5 plus years.

But anyone who thinks less fps is better is retarded 60fps should be the norm and is smooth as fuck butter. OP sounds like one of those faggots who well Bloodborne is great probably ignores the fact the fps is like a fucking anchor on it.

"Good motion blur" is almost as funny of a meme as "30 fps is good if it's STABLE 30 fps". Oh, consolefags.

>>382333952
I mean, stable 30 fps > unstable 30 fps

Good motion blur doesn't exist tho.

>>382333926
The originals were 30.

>>382332791
>>382333714
The motion blur in movies is legitimately fucking awful. I don't understand how normies enjoy Hollywood action scenes because they're borderline unwatchable with the edgy camera angles and 24fps.

>>382332972
>even on the One X
That's because of Sony's shady dealings with the publisher, you know damn well Sony slipped a mickey in there somewhere saying the Xbox version can't be superior to the PS4 version.

>>382334114
It does, just not the actual "motion blur" PP effect you see in a lot of games.

Playing a game at 120+ frames without that shit does the job so much better.

>>382325219
>2017
>not watching 60fps cartoons
Shiggy

>>382333952
34-49 fps with vsync enabled is worse than 30 fps.
The frame pacing issues make the motion look even more stuttery than it otherwise would.

Of course, locked 60 fps have no frame pacing issues whatsoever.

>>382334206
No they weren't, they were 50fps for PAL and 60fps for NTSC.

>>382325219
So 30fps is only bad when Nintendo does it, and 60fps is always bad, especially since Nintendo amd PC games do it.

>>382331640
then why is it more popular than dum dum (console) gaming

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>>382334265
>sony did it
Nice meme

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60 fps > 30 fps.

For Crash, it's not the end of the world. It probably is a sign of the times, where the devs didn't invest time into optimization because they don't have to, which is frustrating, but undeserving of all the noise autists are making about it.

All memes aside only autists give a fuck about MUH FPS

The game is very fucking playable at 30 fps. Every game is fucking playable at 30 fps. Sorry your autism gets triggered when ever you open up console and find your fps number to be below 60. Nah 58 frames is too low it LITERALLY has to be 60

Fucking autism

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>>382334781
>thinking they didn't and wouldn't is even a nicer meme.

>>382334324
They totally ran 30fps. Watchoo talkin' 'bout?

>>382335260
It's actually 25FPS for PAL and 30FPS for NTSC for all the PS1 games.

>>382335102
Microsoft can't make destiny 2 60 fps on xboneX because it has online pvp with xbone and it would be disadvantageous for original xbone and xbones players

>>382335020
Get the MS-DOS port of Megaman X and play it for a while.
It is a game from the era where PCs could into 60 fps while consoles could.
Actually, get any MS-Dos port of a platformer or fighting game from the consoles.

>>382334532
Because it isn't retard. PC games barely sell a third of what consoles do.

>>382333249
You're not wrong

>>382325219
>I think 30fps actually benefits this game
No it doesn't, they have it in 60fps in this trailer and it looks far better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fbO2-egZ3U

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>>382325219
>GOOD
>motion blur

>>382330702
>PCbros missing out on all the greatest games of all time
keking hard

>>382336398
But you can just emulate them though

>defending 30 fps

This is your brain on console brand-loyalty.

>>382325219
The only thing 30FPS is good for is to keep my gaming laptop cool during gameplay.

>>382335885
What about Gears 4, Forza, Killer Instinct, and the other 30 games getting updates for 4k60?

60fps looks too video gamey

Am I the only one who autistically caps his games down to 48fps

>>382336534
You can emulate them competently 10 years later and even then most games will have bugs or just be straight up unplayable.

Let's see last gen, how's that ps3 and 360 emulator coming along?

>>382337238
>how's that ps3 and 360 emulator coming along?
>he doesn't know

>>382336750
Gears 4 is 60fps on xbone (multilayer)
Killer instinct and forza also run at 60 fps on original xbox one

>>382337392
Oh I know, it's just not coming along and it's unplayable =^)

>>382337238
nobody bother emulating those consoles because they're shit

dolphin runs great though

>>382337690
you can't stop eumlation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12z6a9v77PA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H4264Uc8Iw

>>382337948
>current PC specs
>game runs like shit
wow.jpg

>>382337238
same way gamecube and ps2 emulation were going during the generation immediately following?

honestly the emulators have been catching up over the last ten years. botw's progress was lightning-quick compared to how long it took to go from zero to higan

I know a lot of people were whining about the color palette before, but does anybody feel like it's too bright now? Is it just my fucking TV? On Standard setting, you can hardly see Crash due to some of the lighting effects in the egyptian temple levels and the dinosaur ones, especially with a lot of lava on screen.

>>382325219
This is why people hate Sony fanboys.

>>382338161
yeah but that guy is getting paid bank AND everyone in on the emulation scene suspects he has leaked files on how the WiiU works given it's closed source and progressing so quickly.

>>382338234
You dont actually think this thread was made by a Sony "fan" do you?

>>382338156
>specs=more frames
autism, this is literally the first patch for these games get fucked faggot

>>382327246
>realise that 24fps would be stuttering and almost unplayable

There's defending higher reaction windows and there's being terminally retarded like you. If something runs at a steady 24fps then by definition it cannot be stuttering, framerate has nothing to do with it.

>>382338504
yeah, because literally no other games run at all

Show me some RDR, LOU, and Uncharted 2 running on the ps3 emulator, I'm waiting.

you won't, get BTFO faggot

>>382325219
Sonygg3r go away

3rd person games are satisfactory in 30 fps.

FPS? It must be in 60.

>>382339147
kill yourself

>>382339147
>>382339221
I own a ps4 and a pc. He's right, especially if the motion blur is well done.

>>382330838
Jokes aside, most devs are forced to do whatever the publisher tells them, and framerate just doesn't sell games so they indeed focus on other aspects when it's not game breaking. It's better to have an higher framerate, but business wise it doesn't really matter.

>>382339147
>3rd person games are satisfactory in 30 fps.
I will never play Ninja Gaiden Black at 30 fps neck yourself

>>382339283
I am PCfag myself and recently tried Bloodborne. I don't fucking care how good it is, 30 fps is nearly unplayable, amount of input lag is insane.

>>382331640
This. And they don't "make" PC games set for 60fps they just keep the framerate unlocked. There's no optimization whatsoever which is why pcfags have to update every year to brute force their shitty games.

>>382325219
Honestly it's one of the better renditions of this bait. B-.

>>382339616
>30 fps is nearly unplayable, amount of input lag is insane.

Are you retarded? Source?

>>382325219

I can see your point of view op. animations are more choppy.

>>382331640
>superior version even as a port
Every time

>>382336534
Even PS2 emulation is dogshit.

>>382339761
Input lag due to game being 30 fps, sonybro, not because some monkey at FromSoft can't into code.

wasn't it supposed to be in 60fps?

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>>382340097
It was first announced and shown in 60 fps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7G91RjVmvk

>>382339898
>input lag

Again, source? I played Bloodborne and haven't noticed any input lag.

>>382339898
Did Ocarina of Time have unplayable amounts of input lag because it ran at 20 fps? Why are the majority of people always lusting over it if that's the case?

>>382340290
yeah I'm not gonna buy it then

>>382339616
I really feel sorry for you then.
And i'm the one noticing the small dips to 58 fps when i'm playing on my PC.

>>382340317
There's input lag at any fps, it's just more noticeable the lower it gets and above 60 is generally when it's impossible for a human to notice it

>>382340348
He's baiting. Don't bother.

Have any of you even tried playing fighting games and bullet hells at 24fps ?

>>382340903
Bloodborne don't have input lag anon.

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>>382325219

>>382341108
Every game has input/output lag. Some people can notice it some can't and at 30fps a lot of people can notice it

>>382341356
Damn, you must be only person who noticed input lag in Bloodobrne then. I saw many reviews and opinions of game and noboby complained about some input lag.

>>382333249
I hope you aren't pretending to be retarded and are being sarcastic.

>>382341553
Google "bloodborne input lag" and there's 40,700 results

>>382341706
Point me to one review where someone complained about input lag.

>>382338835
>Retard doesn't understand what progress is

>>382339147
All games should be 144fps, 60fps is bare minimum you retarded console fag.

>>382325219
Sonyfags made fun the nintendo games have 30fps but when is their games:
>30fps actually benefits this game
Just kill yourself already
Crash is shit version of Mario wanna be

>>382341813
I don't read reviews personally because most reviewers are either retarded or paid shills

>>382342595
Well, your personal opinion is not an argument too.

>>382342338
kek

>>382342338
this, 60fps is barely playable

>>382343256
I only play at 144fps because input lag of 60fps is almost unplayable.

>>382342691
input lag is literally a question of personal opinion. Some people can notice it, some don't.

>>382339369
Because fps isn't important, hence all the autists that screech about fps ate memeing

>>382325219
>the framerate honestly is cinematic.
Funny thing about that is that it's a video game, not a movie.

>>382344059
video games are also cinematic medium, not only movies.

>>382344421
Do you even know what that word means?

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>Get blue gem from Tomb Wade
>Death warp out
>GAME OVER

im so mad at myself

>>382340317
That literally how input works. At 60 fps, frames drawn every 16 ms, but at 30 this number becomes 33, double that amount. Most properly programmed games do not tie inputs and general game logic to fps, however, you won't see results of your button presses until new frame is drawn, so when game run at 30 fps you get double the amount of perceived input lag. I can doubt that the TV I was playing was shit, it was at a bar that had PS4 setup, so people can play some shit like Fifa and MK, while getting high, so chances of the having properly setup TV is next to nil. However, this does not dispute literal math from the equation. And no, I am not baiting, any game that requires fast inputs is shit at 30 fps, remember the shitstorm that happened when DmC was released on consoles only at 30 fps?

>>382335956
there are more pc gamers than console kiddys, they just dont lap up all the aaa trash that you fuckwits love so much

>>382344810
Nice blog, faggot. You're the only one that's ever complained about input lag in bb

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>good motion blur
>GOOD

Wasn't it 60fps when it was first announced?

>>382326906
But pikachu can absorb electricity just fine. He wouldn't die, your pic is ironic, right?

>>382345454
See:
>>382340290

>>382343654
Different anon, input lag by definition is a technical problem. Literally the difference in time between making a input and when that input is displayed on screen.
Whether that difference is a problem is a matter of opinion up to the point where a game requires inputs faster than said game can process them.
<60fps as far as I'm concerned is a matter of either a unwillingness for developers to tone down muh graphics for playable framerates, or technical incompetence.

Fps really matters in games where fps is very important because you need high fps to stay competitive, like fps games.

>>382341992
>retard still thinks ps3 emulation is progressing
Not even PS2 emulation is good.

Abandon this argument, you're getting BTFO so hard

>>382337948
>11 years later
>emulators still run like shit
LMAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkmcfoRQ0_s

How to fix crash 3
>no bazooka
>nerf infinite spin
>more platforming levels

>>382325219
Good luck with your (you)'s hunt anon, its a pretty good bait!

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>>382346868
>Not even PS2 emulation is good

>>382325219
>good
>motion blur
Choose one