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>Have online bro >Write with him almost daily >Talk

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>Have online bro
>Write with him almost daily
>Talk about all kinds of shit
>Realized it was always the one who started the conversation
>Stopped doing so
>He hasn't messaged me in 3 weeks now

I really considered him a friend.
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>>382318049
yeah.... know that feeling
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How does it feel that he probably hasn't even noticed that you haven't sen any messages?
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He's probably thankful that you've stopped writing.
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nice blog, feel free to hang yourself now you waste of biomass
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I know that feel
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>being attached to people from internet
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>Accumulated a fuckton of online friends in SC2 over the years.
>Have met several of them at events.
>They constantly write me.
>Don't want to delete them.
>Too friendly to not respond.
>Constantly get sucked into long conversations which I don't really care about.

I actually bought a second account so that I can just play a few games without people pestering me.
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>be a few years ago
>have online ukraine bro
>play all types of vidya together all the time
>used to stream movies and tv shows to watch together
>even bought a double pack of chivalry during the xmas sale just so we could fuck around in it
>on day chilling and killing zomboids like usual
>"brb real quick bro, I need to go get water for my family"
>Last Online: 4 years ago
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>>382318049
he's just autistic, dont worry about it op
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>>382318535
What part of Ukraine he was from?
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>>382318049
I haven't seen my actual friends in half a year.
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Some of you people are legit fucked in the head. Made that experience when I joined a Ragnarok Online /v/ group on steam and for some reason people started taking a liking in a me and spammed me day in and day out with gay shit.
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>tfw found online bros 7 years ago
>chat every day, a lot of common interests
I'm glad I got so lucky.
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>>382318624
No clue I never bothered to ask him.

Neither of us really talked about our personal life. Whenever we got together it was just jokes and fucking around constantly.

That's what I miss the most though. ;_;
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>>382318049
>being this self-conscious
I'm that way with my friends. I rarely say anything to them without it first being initiated by someone else. I still consider them my friends and I still enjoy our conversations, I just don't really have anything interesting to say, unless someone has engaged me first.

speaking for your friend, if I had anything interesting to say, I would, but I can't think of anything without someone else bringing it up first.
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I prefer to sit around enjoying my vidya mostly silent. If someone wants my attention it's freely available but every now and then it's fun to play yakuza and dynasty warriors.
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Had the very same thing happen with a girl from my uni. Thought we had a connection. Life is suffering.
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>>382318049
in this situation, its better if you find another bro
this guy clearly didn't care or like you
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>>382318049
Happend many times, with girls I've fucked.

Once the chase is over.. the longing subsides.
Worse when you love em
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Maybe he's severely depressed and you were a shining light for him. He thinks you lost interest in him, like everyone else.
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>>382318049
>>382319223
He's probably just more introverted than you are and while if you were having seemingly enjoyable conversations he probably can totally tolerate you messaging him he's probably just as happy not talking to anyone.
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>yfw this is the case with everyone you considered a friend irl
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>>382318049
this has literally been my experience with every single person I've met in my entire life
I've given everything to everyone and get absolutely fucking nothing in return
my life is a one way street and I want to fucking die
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>>382319690
Hard introverted people are only good as friends if they have something good to offer instead, which they never have
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>>382318049
>Have online bro
>Talk every single day
>Realize I have to initiate all the time
>Don't
>He doesn't talk to me for 3 days
>Then says "AAAAA I MISS YOU BUT I SUCK AT INITIATING"
>Bro is a grill

That explains it.
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>>382319852
Kid.
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>>382318348
>being attached to people .
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>>382318049
I'm that exact kind of person, my social life has always been the other person initiating. I'm content with being by myself for long stretches of time and if someone wishes to have my company I'll gladly oblige but I don't have the same need as them to be around others.
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>>382318049
I know that feels bro
but I'm the other guy
>He hasn't messaged me in 3 weeks now
you know, I have a shit-ton of work to do
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>>382320160
>not realizing that emotions are just neurochemical reactions in the brain
>not realizing that feelings towards other humans are all just chemicals in the brain.
>not realizing that life is meaningless
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>>382318049
To be honest man he was probably just used to you writing. He probably thinks you stopped writing because you don't want to talk. If he didn't like you he wouldn't have replied at all.
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You do realize, that the people online might think of you differently than you about them? I've had multiple people talk about "our friendship", although I didn't feel like there was anything else but we knew eachother and might have talked couple of times.
I don't consider anyone a friend, who I don't talk about at least every so often, and get along. I do have people, who I talk with and see maybe twice a year, but we don't grow apart.
Thanks for reading my blog, donate to my patreon please.
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>everyone online never talks to me unless I take initiative
>everyone except for one guy
He's the only guy I can consider a friend
To be fair, I rarely try to talk to the others.
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>>382320389
>not realising their is no reality beyond your perception
>not realising your perception is based in meaning
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When is the appropriate time to reconnect with people you havent spoken with in years?

Last spoke with this group i know three years ago, but im not sure how to reconnect with them
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>>382318049
>have a good thing going with a friend
>purposefully fuck it up

WOW BUGGED FRIEND MECHANICS
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>>382319801
This thread, I wish I hadn't seen it. Honestly, fuck you guys, making me self conscious and shit. You faggots made me look through all my conversations and realize that I've done exactly this. I'm the one who starts all the conversations...
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>only two people I care enough about anymore to invite to come hang out on my birthday
>one of them never even responds to me
this was a year ago, the other person who did come I haven't seen since
that fucked me up man
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>>382320093
Fugg the grill and send vids
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>>382320389
You have to be at least 18 years old to use 4chan.
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people who lead others on are the fucking worst. just shut the fuck up if you don't want to talk to me.
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>>382320753
Now. I'm serious. Send then a "sup". Invite them to a game.
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>>382320753
>Hey group, long time no see, I'd like to now recontinue the exchange of information we are both interested in, (interesting thing)
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>>382320936
Try and tease them, make up something interesting you're going to that they'd want to know how went, tell them you're going to be working on something but they can message you any time for a game, put on a frilly skirt and dance a bit.

No one loves you learn how to be alone
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>>382321209
>>382321219
If only it were that simple and im referring to people met in person. Might have to go back to jewbook to do so
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>>382321369
you're fake as shit, convolution is seen through almost immediately and feels forced and desperate.

>dont
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>>382318049
I'm exactly like that guy for the most part. The only people I initiate conversations with are the ones I've had literally years of trust with so that I feel confident talking with them, since my desire to avoid initiating conversations stems from a fear of rejection, like the other person not finding whatever I started talking about interesting. It's much easier to follow on someone else's topic than starting it myself

That, or someone I know in real life who is easier to get to a level of trust faster. But you get my point.
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>>382320753
Eh, I browse my friends list and contacts every few years and send a message to some random people I haven't talked in ages. I don't really miss anyone, so it happens that I just forget about people. Most people like it and find it refreshing and I really never have gotten any bad feedback, most people that don't feel like talking usually say so or are pretty clear about it.
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>>382320389
holy... wait... does that mean god isn't real???
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You are all lucky i wish i even had friends
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>First friend online
>talk about games and play all the time
>introduces me to his other friend
>one day he gets drunk and tells me he is gay
>next day he panics that i could tell his real life friend
>stops talking to me
Fucking faggots
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What do you expect me to do? Talk with you every single day like you were my girlfriend? Like I was 16 and had nothing better to do with my time but socialize?
Tell me about yourself, and maybe later I'll start a chat when I see something fun that I think you may like.
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>>382321705
the people anons are talking itt are not real friends for the most part.
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>>382320389
Babby's first nihilism. You can't even be sure if anyone's real, you could be stuck in a dream or be completely alone, everyone being just a figment of your imagination
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>>382318049
>No one loves you learn how to be alone
I already know this, and I live alone quite comfortably. I don't even persue girls anymore, it's just I don't realise how much I do this until something reminds me of it. It happens with guys and girls I talk to a lot and I fail to realise this and stop.
I'm not a fag either.
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>>382321857
Normal people like to talk with their friends.
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>>382321869
Baby's first is when you realise that eventual the Sun will Nova and the universe will cool and anything you ever do or achieve is totally meaningless and will be wiped from existence sooner or later.
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>>382320389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVxMAAbw5S0
shut the fuck up faggot
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I think I'm so used to having long, random conversations with people on forums/boards like 4chan that I forget how lazy and retarded my normal friends are.

I constantly have to actively stop myself from messaging them because I know they won't care or have anything interesting to say.
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You sound like a lonely loser.
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>>382322049
>for you to trust the chemicals in your brain
Whether or not you think you trust the chemicals in your brain is determined by the chemicals in your brain.
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>>382321948
>Calling an internet acquintance a friend
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>>382318049
lul im the same as your "friend"
my phone only has incoming calls
0 outgoing
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>>382318049
>if he wanted to talk he'd message me
>guess we weren't friends
Him right now
t. Autistic person
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>>382318049
>when you invest far more into the other person then they do to you.
hey man I was only child growing up, forgive me for just wanting to connect with other people on some kind of level. This is why I have a tulpa, at least shes always up for some pleasant conversation.
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>>382322121
Whether or not you can determine whether or not you think you trust the chemicals in your brain is determined by the chemicals in your brain.
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>>382318049
This happened to me kind off, i went on holiday for 2 weeks but my phone has skype so it looked like i was online, i came back and they were the ones to message me.

>Anon you've not been messaging me!
>I would start convo but i suck!
>You know some girls can't!

Never dropped a friend so hard in my life, honestly loved her, but im gay.
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>>382318049
some people are just naturally passive
did he seem involved in your discussions? unless he tried to drop them as soon as he could he probably enjoyed talking with you, he probably thinks you got tired of him and that's why you don't speak to him anymore
some people just got used to putting up with people getting tired of them and dropping them on short notice
I should know
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>>382318414
now that's pathetic.
No wonder people are the way they are today.
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>>382322259
That's very true as well.
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>Meet online friend to watch movies and shit with
>She's a 28 year old woman who's flirty as shit despite having a bf
>Long story short, we end up regularly masturbating over mic together while talking dirty, and she sends me tit pics
>End up being really busy for two days, can't talk to her much
>She cuts all contact because I didn't make time for her
Fun while it lasted
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>>382319890
>friends
>if they have something good to offer instead

This is not how friendship works, bro.
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>>382321865
real friends ;_;
tfw cousin stole my laptop I was fucking bitches on, paid that nigga 250 thousand just to get it from him
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>>382321865
Yeah i know but it would be nice to have someone to always talk to..
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>>382320389
I still have no clue what the "brain works on chemical" sentences are trying to prove.
It's like going "ah, this computer is just electricity and flip flops, so obviously it can't be trusted and is meaningless!".
What the hell has one thing got to do with the other.
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>>382322607
What is it that you are doing now at this very moment then anon? Shitposting with bots and shills?
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>>382322523
my younger bros ex did that, she expected him to call everyday before 7.
He missed one day and it was over.
she came over and dropped of like 20 of those yugioh tins when she broke up with him
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>>382318142
>hasn't noticed
>implying he isn't glad
Some people can't take a fucking hint. Finally got people to stop messaging me on Steam by ignoring them
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>>382322646
It means nothing
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tfw that female friend never initiates the conversation, often has delayed replies, usually short replies and sometimes just straight up misses a text you sent her.
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>>382322731
I guess nihilist logic is meaningless alright.
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>>382322819
>female
>friend
hmmm
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>>382322664
Yeah a bunch of faceless nobodies i need more than that
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>meet online person
>total bro
>we atually work as a team and help eachother out
>something happens to one of us (disconnect, laggs out, server dies)
>it was on an older game where you can chose your player name
>never meet them ever again
[F] for all our forgothen friends
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>>382322819
>Female friend
>Tries to ignore you as hard as possible while not being rude
Hmmmmmmm
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how do I be more direct and honest with people
I'm way too sheepish to the point of letting others walk all over me and take advantage of my passivity while never communicating what I want properly
it makes me extremely uncomfortable trying to be blunt and I'm way too concerned about catering to the other person constantly, I immediately feel like an asshole if I'm not
I'm just tired of being lonely and not being able to be honest with fucking anyone ever out of fear of confrontation
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>>382322819
>misses a text you sent her
Anon that's called ignoring
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>>382322545
>I watched Naruto and other animes who teached me about friendship and that you should ask nothing in return for the person you respect
the biggest cuck post I have read this year
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>>382322924
Nothing is stopping you from going outside and making the effort bro. Posting anime is going to help you either.
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>>382322916
>>382322981
she's my only friend, she was always really nice and invited me to things like the theatre or fair with groups
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>>382322989
Get /fit/
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>>382323081
>she was always really nice and invited me to things like the theater or fair with groups
Are you blind by chance anon? The warning signs are all there and didn't see them at all.
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>>382323081
This plays out exactly like that anon post from a few years back about a guy who was childhood friends with this chick that became a slut. Gets the shit kicked out of him and ridiculed as he tries to pull her away from a gangbang. Don't be that guy anon.
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>>382322545
That's exactly how friendship works, you mutually entertain one another.
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Same shit here but it was with my irl friends at the time. Been waiting for someone to call for at least 10 years now
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>that friend that gets a gf and cuts all contact
He was my only friend too
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>>382323063
Kinda a NEET honestly and its more vidya then anime but i get your point im to much of a filthy weeb anyways
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>>382322989
Suffer until you're ready to be more straight forward. Alternatively stop communicating with cunts.
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>>382318049
the minute they start asking if i want to come hang out IRL or start even hinting at ERP, i get the fuck out
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>>382322989
Be a cunt and just smile while doing so, who cares if they don't like you because theres another million or so other assholes out there just waiting to be your friend. Or just stick to shitposting on 4chins, its a win-win anyway desu.
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I can relate to that. I had "online friends" for over 15 years who wouldn't message me if I didn't message them and we were both online at the same time. I had often periods when I waited it out which means I've waited 1-8 months and not a reply. That always hurt and I've told them but I was told not to be dramatic or some shit. They weren't even sorry. Also had that with real life friends. I would always contact them and they would never contact me. Maybe I don't know how to start conversations. I would be like
>hey what are you doing / what are you up to
and I would get
>nothing
So I would link them to Youtube videos or talk about stuff I found to be interesting. I just failed. So now I gave up any friendship or fucking facebook ages ago because I would always be the one talking. I haven't checked in for ages but I feel good now. I was always disappointed because I hoped people would talk back to me if I would talk to them- that never happened. You get disappointed if you EXPECT something. Expect nothing in life and only rely on yourself and you will be happy. That's how I roll now. I know it's an excuse for being a fucking loner but I am really doing fine and now that I gave up hoping for a reply it feels good. Just like Facebook used to be drug for OMG I want people to talk to me. Where are my likes. GIVE ME ANY COMMENTS PLEASE. Just give up on it. It helps so much.
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>>382323445
NEETo going on 7 and a half years here and I know the feel. Just making small steps at conversation is easy because with strangers the conversation is meaningless, you don't know their names and their faces look the same as everyone when put into a crowd. The real hard part is maintaining relations with people, thats a fucking bitch to deal with desu. But its either that or spend the remainder of your life locked behind 4 walls and computer screen.
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>>382323783
You ever thought about becoming a monk? I heard they can go entire lifetimes without utter a single word and spend their days being chilled af. I would do it but sadly my country doesn't have any form of religious organisations that allow for such solitary ventures.
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>>382323149
Warning signs of?
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>>382323783
>hey what are you doing / what are you up to
This must be the most boring opener after "Hey". No wonder you're having difficulty making friends.
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>>382323783
This
>>382323854
>locked
>behind a computer screen
Why not go pick some flowers sally, you might get some nice boys attention?
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>>382320389
So youre trusting the chemicals to tell you that they are chemicals?

Know your role and shut your damn mouth!!
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>>382322130
>when the only incoming call to your phone in the last 10 years was a poo-in-the-loo scammer
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>>382319890
give examples of something pls
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>>382324093
hey don't talk shit about picking flowers bro thats some of the most dope shit you can do on sunny afternoons.
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>Miss a text from the previous day from a friend
>respond to it
>"anon have you of this netflix show? Its really good! But text me again tomorrow cus I'm watching it right now, and you must text me tomorrow or else I'll forget."
>text her the next day
>no response
>ask again the next day
>still haven't responded the last 5 days
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>meet chick through wow long time ago
>we start skyping and she's into it
>we talk about meeting at a mutual event we're going to
>she can't make it but talk about arranging a visit in the near future
>few days later she suddenly lays into me heavily and blocks me out of the blue
>couple months pass and she says sorry
>okay.jpg

Never underestimate the madness of the people you meet online kids
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>>382324290
Honestly I'm at the point where if she doesn't respond I don't message her for 2 weeks, that way she misses me and will respond for certain I hope she responds
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>>382324091
>hey, what are you doing?
>oh nothing much. Just playing game.
>you're playing game? let me join fag.
>kay.
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>>382324290
>>382324426

You sound like a 15 year old
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>>382324217
Any interest at all in what the other person is doing, a funny video, invitation to play video games together... as you can see though all of these options are extremely homo and you should learn to not need friends.
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>>382322646
Basically if your computer was to print a heartfelt poem it would be meaningless as it was told to by its programming and anything it creates holds no real inherent value as it is the product of the composition of the computer's circuits.
The same can be applied in some way to humans, the only reason we even act differently than animals is because we have a specific composition of chemicals and neurones in the brain. God did not give humanity some special gift, there is no special law of physics that gives us sentience, only the unique way our brain's chemicals happen to operate, therefore anything we think or say is simply the result of chemicals interacting and has as much meaning as a computer printing something because its programming tells it to
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>>382324698
Is that part of the reason why when someone is labeled as "chemically unbalanced" is because their internal programming is fucked in comparison to the norm?
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>>382323783
Same here. I cut all the useless contacts who wont start conversation first and I feel so good not wasting time on others and just focus on myself now.
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>>382324698
But that doesn't mean things have no value, even if existence is to a point deterministic, I still love masturbating.
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>"Hey can we talk about something important?"
*midday the next day*
"sorry I was drunk af at my boyfriend's party,.what u want?"


;_; should I drop her
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>>382323783
You sound like me
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>>382324868
Yes stop orbiting
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>>382324865
Things only really have as much value as the human perception decides. Even water is only considered valuable because we find it beneficial to our bodies
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>when i was in high school and even after i had many friends to play vidya with, irl and on the internet
>that would talk to me first, actually want me around
>even multiple gfs
>fast forward a few years
>no desire to talk to anyone
>no desire for relationships besides getting my dick wet
>just want to play video games and work
>no feelings of loneliness
>not much feeling at all actually
Thanks for subscribing to my blog, guys.
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>>382324698
>it would be meaningless
Because?
>as it was told to by its programming
Yes, and?
>and anything it creates holds no real inherent value as it is the product of the composition of the computer's circuits.
???????

How the fuck do you make the leap from "the result is deterministic, via a process we don't know" to "the result has no value".

>Mentions God
Lmao.
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>>382324975
No problem man
I await your next entry
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>>382324980
>>Mentions God
>Lmao.
I tip my hat off to you good sir *tips*
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>>382325068
I tip by burger to you, clap clap clap.
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>>382324091

Well I guess I fail at making epic OPENERS because friendship is just like being a PICK UP ARTIST so I have to come up with retarded questions to start a conversation
>Hey friend, what is your favourite pizza topping
>Hey friend, if you have to life on an island, what would you bring with yourself oh and hello today

No seriously how do I start a conversation then? I am interested in what people are doing with their lifes. What they are up to so I ask them
>What are you up to?
They might be playing a new game I don't know or started a new job or are busy with something in life. I feel like that's a legitimate question but yet no one has ever asked me that question in my entire life and I am 31.
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>>382318049
He could also think something is wrong since you stopped messaging him and doesn't want to intrude. 3 weeks is a while though, so probably not.
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>>382318049
lowkey if your name is tyler i haven't been messaging you because your gf is over and she's a mad cunt
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>>382324980
>>Mentions God
>Lmao.

What's so fun about it?

>I don't believe

Because of all the evidence you've gathered, yes?

>You have to prove it yourself

No, I don't get paid for it

>Then I don't believe

Be my guest, but I will still mention god, just because you don't believe doesn't mean you have rights over the conversation going so far as to what people must believe, if you ask me your position is ridiculous because of dark matter, invisible matter of the sky keeping the universe toghether, lol.
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I am always throwing bait
Hoping for someone to bite
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>>382325032
Appreciate it man. Hope you enjoy the nonsense rambling.
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>>382320389
>if it`s meaningless then go end yourself
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>>382324957
Yes, that is correct. Were you expecting your feefees to have inherent value?
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>>382324975
>no friends or emotions relating to them
Looks like you get to skip the note!
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>>382325247
I always have the time to read stuff like that
Is like reading the newspaper
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>>382320389
dude nihilism lmao
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>>382324980
It all really derives from the belief that the value of everything is derived from human's perceptions. In the end we are just a chance assembly of particles, so there's no real divine purpose given to anything. We could all decide that cow shit is now the most valuable resource in the universe, and if everyone agreed, then cow shit would be considered the most valuable resource in the universe, and nothing but humans themselves can say so.
It has no inherent value because it was all decided by random processes. If by pure, pure astronomically minuscule chance some rocks fell off a hill and landed in a way so that they were arranged to form a coherent sentence, and you knew that these rocks had only been arranged so because of pure chance, would the sentence have any real meaning to it other than the attributed value of the words to the English language?
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I only half one female friend that talks to me of her own will, all my guy friends never do. I'm pretty butthurt about it, am I destined to beg for a conversation all my life?
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>>382325390
Is suicide the only logical option?? Though looking over this thread, maybe we're all better off without these "friends"
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>>382325140
I've found that it works if you allow some form of back and forth to get going to make the conversation flow naturally.
>"hey friend long time no see how you been?"
>"Good actually, yourself?"
>"Terrific thanks for asking! *smile* "
And then it goes from there, then you got that whole thing of matching your breathing to theirs, having a relaxed composure, maintaining eye contact and making good use of facial expressions and adjusting the tone and speed of your voice. Its like one big fucking minigame just to have a basic conversation with another person, very tiring and I have to ask myself is this shit even worth it anymore.
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>>382325245
Your a complete fucking cunt, some people come on here just so they can get a bit of anonymous discussion, how much a dumb fucking cunt do you have to be to post things just to make people upset, it's literally a complete waste of time, requires no effort and does nothing but make everything shittier. If your life is so shit that you need to do that you absolutely have to take some time to just consider suicide and seeing what the other sides like because it's likely there are people in your life not far from just murdering you anyway.
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>tfw used to rp on tumblr (i know, shame on me) from 2009 to 2013
>had tons of rp friends who i cared dearly about, even met one of them irl
>talked to them daily
>once i stopped rping, i stopped talking to them over time
>haven't contacted any of them since one time in 2015
>all of my friendships go this way; one of us loses interest in whatever brought us together and we lose contact
>it hurts every single time
>i still think about every one of them on a daily basis
>too scared they won't remember me or even worse will resent me for not keeping in contact (although they never did either)
>sometimes go back to our old blogs and read our extremely cringey but nostalgic RP threads from a simpler time, and cry

>>382318049
>tfw I am both of those people
Maybe he's just shy or strung out? Or you are annoying, I dunno.
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>>382325560
Is this what actual autism is like? Im so sorry anon. Ive been taking my horrible social skills for granted this whole time. I hope you find someone who meshes well with you.
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>>382325621
Man I didn't meant it like that
I am always looking for friends
But no one sticks with me
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>>382318049
reminds me how i feel left over by a bunch of people

>average steam guy with no real friends
>get added by one guy and socialize
>his friends add me with time
>we all speak together and having good time
>fast forward
>realize they mostly play games together and prolly use another chat because they keep simulateously play games together
>never get invited even thought i'm burning myself with the games they play too
>just wait hoping they would invite me
>it never happened for months, to not say years
>do same as OP said and don't message for a period of time
>nobody message me

actually i get the feeling i was more likely invited to an already made-up circle of friends but that i was just some sort of honorary friend that could be ignored any time.
being self-conscious really sucks
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>>382325534
Try and construct a situation where one of them would actively want to converse with you and get them hooked, as has been ascertained in this thread humans are uninspired organisms.
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>>382318414
>playing blizzard games

This was your first mistake. Trust me, it never ends well.
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>>382325684
What can I say man I haven't taken my drugs lately to keep me from having the crazies. And I haven't used these mad skills on another person going on a decade. Might even set a new record with this shit. Besides I aim on dying alone because thats the way God intended for it to be.
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>>382325621
do you have something you need to get off your chest, anon?
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>>382325684
Not them but I have actual diagnosed autism and for me at least it comes more naturally. Granted, I'm a girl, and autism affects girls differently than boys. But keeping a conversation running can be really difficult for me, I tend to bullshit my way through conversations. Also I hate small talk so I only ever ask my friends how they're doing when I actually mean it. Group chats are the best though because someone will always keep the conversation going. It's actually usually me, but that's because all the group conversations happen in a place where we cycle between 4 topics: anal, virginity, our hatred for one of the discord mods, and how many dick jokes we can fit into one chat-sized hole. With those topics, it's not hard to continue. But I find it hard to not talk about myself. Not to say I think I'm the most interesting thing in the world, but I try to relate to others by sharing my experiences. This inadvertently shifts the conversation's focus onto me, so I make an effort to not do that but...it still happens quite often.
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>>382325460
>There's no divine purpose!
Of fucking course there isn't.

>Value is subjective and depends on scarcity and demand
Fucking economics 101 over here.

>Because it's the result of a random process it has no value
And again here you make some absurd leap without any justification.

>If a sentence is made randomly, does it have meaning?
Yes it has the meaning of the words it has in it. This is not fucking hard.

>But would it have REAL meaning?
That doesn't mean fucking anything unless you define it first.
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>tfw extremely good at making friends but not keeping them
>have over a hundred of people added on my PS4 who I befriended in GTA5 alone
>have spoken to maybe 3 of them more than once after the initial in-game bonding
Why are you like this.
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>>382325206
Lmao.
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>>382325684
Don't feel sorry for him medium functioning austistics like that who put so much effort into manual social conversing are usually pretty good at it and can make friends.
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>>382326029
>GTA 5
why would you torture yourself like this bro?
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>>382325931
man really?
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>>382325931
Small talk is shit and anyone who says they enjoy it needs to be shot. One of the easiest ways to conversate with others I've found is to listen intently and try to share your own experiences relative to theirs'. It may make you seem self centered - but most people seem to want to look for some of themselves in others. They like to know someone else shares their experiences. Sometimes its inevitable and the only way to keep from reverting into the same tired "hurrf how r u lmao good oh ya man me too nice cool". Sounds like you have your autism mostly under control. Though I've never met a "girl" with autism, so what do I know.
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>>382323783
I will be your friend anon. discord or skype
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>>382326089
I've been very lucky and usually get into sessions with really nice people, or at least people who will leave you alone if you ask them to. There's been a few shitters but most of the time people either ignore me or start talking to me and we go from there. I'm really shocked at how easy it is to chat to others online and, maybe befriend is a strong word, but get along with them.

I wish I could learn to keep them. I don't know why I don't contact them, a lot of them are interesting people, and yet...I don't. Why? What the fuck is wrong with me?
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>>382326071
Doesn't hurt to try though because the worst that could happen is that I get called a cunt to which I just laugh at them and go wander off somewhere like an escaped mental patient. Life is too fucking short to hung up on trivial shit like being a no friend loser.
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>>382318049
>be such a loser that I only have one friend in total
>known him for years
>initiate a conversation once every month or two with him
>90% of the time I send the first reply
help
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>>382320389
>not realizing that said neurochemical reactions are too complex for you to adequately comprehend and dismiss as meaningless
>not realizing that the combination of logic and emotion is the apex of the evolutionary process
>not giving yourself meaning to a meaningless world
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>>382318049
I've done this in reverse, he does like you but you both got into the routine of doing it the way you did.

Since you aren't talking to him first anymore he is assuming you don't want to talk.

Send him a message faggot.
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>Met a shit ton of friends over nine years ago
>Still game with most of them to this day
>Have lost contact with a few over the years but whatever
>Have met quite a lot of them in person before multiple times
>Two of them are even going to be groomsmen at my wedding
>Could not be happier with the friends I've met online
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>>382326267
I got mad respect for you for trying and not feeling sorry for yourself. The worst you can do when being a no friend loser is complain about being a no friend loser and do nothing about it. Godspeed anon.
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>>382322545
>>382323020
>>382323267

Go read Cicero and Nietzsche, you fucking cunts.

You've never had a friend in your life if you're looking for a fucking clown to amuse you. I pity the people who think you're friends with them.
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>>382326275
I'll be your friend (male) anon, if you'll have me...
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>Extroverts are this weak and pathetic
I could destroy any friendship with the power contained in my pinky finger.
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>>382326187
Yeah.

>>382326223
I guess I do, but I've spent my entire life training myself to appear at least semi-"normal". I'm actually quite eloquent and great at conversation online. IRL, not so much. But I've been told by my friends I'm really charming which is certainly flattering but also depressing because that doesn't translate into the real world. Maybe it's because I'm truly only comfortable online, and thus my normal social anxiety doesn't block my ability to hold a conversation.

Yeah, that "how u doing" "good how bt u" thing gets so fucking old so fast. Like I said I only ever say it if I mean it. I'm very, very direct as well and have spilled my deep dark personal bits to people I met 5 minutes prior. Turns out a lot of people actually like that in me. My idea is that if they use my struggles against me, it says much more about them than me.

You're right completely about people wanting to look for themselves in others. I know that logically but even now as I was typing all this, I thought "am I using 'I' too much? This is so self-centered, what a failure you are".
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>>382318049
>played wow when it came out
>join in a guild I ended up being with for over 2-3 years (I don't even remember how long)
>we play wow every day and everyone knows one another
>feel like some of the best buds I had back then
>expansion comes out
>people take a week off from work just to powerlvl to the end game
>they all leave the guild cause normies have families, school and work and they want to raid after getting to max lvl within a couple days
>never hear from them again
>last things I heard was that just about all of them either lost their jobs, gotten even fatter than they already were and got divorced cause their wives and kids couldn't take it anymore
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>Best (only) friend for like 10 years finally gets a girlfriend and gets her pregnant
I miss playing games with him
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Don't know how to socialize anymore because I've been an indoors NEET for far too long. So removed from the outside world that I need to take social skills lessons.
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>>382326418
>tfw looking for a clown to amuse me and someone to not judge me and hold me when I'm scared, and to be by my side forever and teach me lessons
>tfw looking to be a clown to amuse someone else and not judge them and hold them when they're scared, and be loyal to, and also teach them lessons
Is it so wrong?
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>>382326418
My perceptions are entirely removed from another persons, are you seriously considering I should randomly put another person above myself? What's wrong with being each other's clowns?
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>>382320551

>I don't consider anyone a friend, who I don't talk about at least every so often

That's sad. I can spend five years without meeting a friend and we'll have a grand old time when we run into each other again.

It's sad so many people here see their friends as tools to prevent them from getting bored.
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What's the point of having one-on-one conversation over the internet, when you could just post on a forum and discuss any topic you want with dozens of people (who share your interest)? Thousands of others will read and pay attention what you have to say and your ideas won't disappear into the void five seconds later.

On a forum, you can bail out of a conversation the moment you're bored. You don't have to reply to everything and everyone. Zero social obligations.

It's one thing if we're already in a game, working together on a goal (whether winning or having fun), then I would enjoy chatting at the same time. But don't expect me to sit around mindlessly, doing nothing productive, just to talk with you. I can't get immersed in a game while you're typing away and focused on what you're saying.

I'm permanently set offline on Steam and Facebook now because of the fear of being roped into a conversation with someone. I absolutely hated it in the AIM days as well, where I would get four messages within a minute of signing on.

With new online buddies, I will message you once. If you put zero effort into it, start memeing, or give off the feeling you're uninterested in what I have to say, I will never message you again. Chances are you're not more interesting than a forum/chatroom as a whole and I don't NEED anything from you. Why would I reach out again?

If you message me, I will talk with you. I will be polite. I will ask you questions, use exclamation points out the ass, throw in hahas. But in reality I'm okay if we will never talk again.

Blog entry over.
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>>382326572
>Best (only) friend for like 10 years finally gets a girlfriend and gets her pregnant
>gets her pregnant
Either he didn't pull out quick enough or shes been getting her just desserts from another desu, and I'm not saying this in a joking kind of manner because this kind of shit is far more common then people would like to admit. It kind sad really, trust is a very fickle thing to hold onto in this world.
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>>382326503
Show dem lopsided innie autism tits
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>>382326657
Not that anon but I don't think there's anything wrong with being each other's clowns. Friendship requires a give and take. You can ask them to give to you, that's not wrong, so long as they can take something in return.

For example, it's an unspoken rule (at least I think they know) that I'm my friends' ray of sunshine, and in return they won't judge me when I'm unable to be.
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>>382318656
True friendship is when your friends spam you gay shit.
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>>382318414
>make close friends with vydia people over shitty circumstances
>always the one to start conversations
>notice that I'm being a bit nosy
>"hey man, it's cool if you tell me to fuck off when you don't wanna chat :)"
>they never do
>they never start conversations either

We're still on "speaking" terms, but I can't help but wonder how much they're tolerating me rather than enjoying my "presence".
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>>382326503
I meant your spoiler
But whatever
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>>382326616
Who's saying that right now besides yourself?
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>>382322607

That's not how friends work, boy. A friend is a kindred spirit, someone who you bonded with over something or other. They're not your servant, to be available to you at any time you please.
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>>382326830
my autism case manager shocker
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>>382326845
And what is a kindred spirit meant to be again? Someone who operates on the same wavelength as you?
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I really want to make vidya friends now that I'm in uni but there isn't time between real-life friends to play much games, kind of disappointing. Just wanna meet some bros to play roblox with yo
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>>382322819

A) That chick is not your friendo, friendo.
B) Chicks are terrible conversation partners unless they're really your friend and even then most are only ok.
C) Move the fuck on.
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>>382326694
>not talking to a friend for 5 years
Unless they get sucked into a crystal, I don't understand this. I mean I've lived this multiple times but I can't consider those people my friends anymore. Friendship has to be constant, does it not? I don't mean talking every single day, but keeping in contact and caring about them, is that not vital for most bonds?

Maybe it's different for others but...wow...typing all this in this thread just made me realize those people I call my friends online, aren't real friends. They're just people I get along with very well who know my life story. But other than us goofing around, we don't really talk...about serious stuff. About my deep thoughts, or theirs. I'll ask them how they're doing in their life but I don't feel much of anything for them aside from "good people who entertain me".

Wow I just made myself cry. I realized I haven't felt that love and that happiness from talking to someone since my rp buddy days. Now it's just "yeah you're cool, I'd be kinda sad if you died and I hope you don't, I'd regret never speaking to you again, but I don't really care about you that much".
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>>382326951
That sounds like a terrible occupation to have. Managing young chemically unbalanced males.
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>>382322607
Then get a girlfriend/boyfriend
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>>382326761
What if you permanently stop being your friend's ray of sunshine for some reason? Seems like they made a bad deal.
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>>382326572
The worst feel.
>>382326503
It is definitely a lot easier to appear charming and charismatic online unless you're a turbo autist who only spouts memes. Though Im sure if you worked at it you could translate those people skills to real life as well.
People like others who are open and willing to share themselves with others for the most part. Whats the use in living life and learning experiences if you cant share it with others? Hiding secrets and things about yourself only adds to the anxiety in my experience. Also, how the fuck do you "train" yourself to be normal? Genuinely curious, I am not diagnosed with autism but I definitely have a bit of social retardation. I have no filter and it tends to make people uncomfortable in the real world at least. I find myself thinking that too, whenever I have a conversation with a new person I'm thinking "oh shit Im just dragging on about myself and I look like an egotistical fuckhead", so I attempt to incorporate questions about them to keep the focus off myself a bit. Though Im sure most of that is just in my head, its so easy to overcomplicate something as simple as a conversation. Though Im just rambling on, thus thread made me feel like getting shit off my chest.
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>>382326434
I'm too selfconscious and paranoid to talk to anyone.
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>>382327120
Well thats sounds like they have more pressing issues to attend to then anon, rather then having their personal monkey to dance for them when they are feeling down. Ignoring your problems doesn't fix or make them go away we all know this true fact.
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>>382327120
>for some reason
You mean me killing myself? It might happen, but I--huh, I guess I do care about them--I couldn't live with myself if I was the reason for their unhappiness. What if they killed themselves because I died? That's horrible to think about.

I have to try and be the sunshine in their lives, because if I'm not, who will be? What if they can't be their own sunshine? What if they start to feel worse? I try so hard to make them happy even when I'm sad...
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>>382327168
Join the club then bro.
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I hate the shit this thread brings up in my memories. I don't want to know that feel no more
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>>382326805
Probably a bit of both, sounds like they're introverted, naturally depressive, and need to be alone a lot. If he's not worth the effort you have to make stop speaking to him and find a better friend.
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>>382326657

Friendship is the most lateral relationship there is. A friend is not asking you to put him above you, just beside you.

Sure, you say and do things together that you find enjoyable, but any gain made in a friendship is incidental. It's a bond of trust.

Sure, I'm making it a very high stakes thing, but I think you shouldn't call just any old acquaintance you have a friend.

>>382326638

Cool, but can you be completely honest with this person? Can you disagree with them on fundamental issues and maintain that bond?

I don't mind a give-and-take relationship. I just don't consider it friendship.
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>>382327053
Deep bonds last through time.
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>>382327252
I know there is a whole culture that exists of shouldering your own burdens to prevent yourself from looking weak but its an entirely different kettle of fish if you start off loading onto others. They don't need to carry extra burdens from you if they have their own problems to deal with. Thats just called being a cunt. You can ask for advice and maybe a bit of insight but you just can't go around fucking other peoples shit up, you will die younger because of it.
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>>382318049
Most people in the world are totally egocentrical cunts who don't give a shit about you, yet are hypocritical enough to pretend like they do, so that they don't lose a free source of entertainment you provide for them, while giving nothing in return.

Utter cunts always belong to the same 3 categories:

1) Those who always talk to you when they want to boast, mindlessly drawing attention to themselves, derailing any conversation into discussing their interests and egomaniac life full of non-existing achievements. The moment you ignore their attempts to get validation, they lose all interests, and proceed to attention-whore somewhere else.

2) The "optimistic" naive hypocrites who try to artificially keep a positive attitude, almost like they are trying to sell you something. Being scared shitless of any criticism whatsoever, calling you toxic and negative every time you bring up something even remotely cynical, always trying to maintain the hugbox Tumblr attitude. The irony is that if you say anything that doesn't go well with their ideology, that tolerant and politically correct bunch will turn into Hitler, calling you names and trying to gas you for breaking the taboo, releasing all the feces they had stored in their soul for years.

3) Boring pieces of shit who never ever start conversations themselves, always sit in the corner with a punchable "i am not amused" face. Never ask questions, never listen to what others have to say, never contribute anything. Just annoy people by being degenerate vegetables who don't have any interests and can't form a single sentence, yet they still have a dire need to go out with people, to consume the entertainment they provide, otherwise the autist will get bored and starts going insane from the lack of thoughts in his head. Emotional vampires as people call them.

All 3 types after being revealed must be discarded into trash immediately.
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>the only thing I'm ever interested in talking about anymore is how fucked up I am mentally
I've lost all interests and motivation at this point
I just need someone to talk to to keep me fucking sane
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>>382327150
>how to train yourself
I've spent my entire life examining how other people interact and how I do, and changing my behavior to mimic the normies around me, while still being relatively true to myself. I used to struggle with sarcasm until I was about 10 years old. I worked very, very, very hard to seem at least not as autistic as I really am. I still look like a bundle of anxiety whenever I go out, I looked more normal as a kid IMO, but I had way less social skills...I think. I was also told I was very charming as a child but that's probably because I was very mature for my age and was probably one of the most well behaved children to ever exist on this Earth.

Exceptional self-awareness is the only positive thing I'm willing to state about myself, and the only reason I can appear normal, at least online. In fact most people are pretty damn shocked to hear I have autism. "But you don't ACT autistic at all!" Yeah well that's because you don't see me breakdown in my room, hitting myself in the head and screaming because I became so drained thanks to our socializing from earlier and feel like a failure for being drained.
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>>382327483
>self loathing
Isn't that a form of narcissism?
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>>382327216
I don't see your point.
>>382327252
Your and there existence doesn't sound sustainable does it.
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>>382318546
It's usually the other way around you dumbass. The autistic one messages the normal person all the time and can't take hint the autist annoys them.
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>>382327572
The point is that they shouldn't be relying on others to attain happiness because that shit comes from within. If you can't be happy with yourself you won't ever be happy in the presence of others.
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>>382325931
What are your thoughts on anal and virginity?
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>>382327053

It don't happen anymore due to all the internet things available. But it has happened in the past. But yes, before those long separations there was a long period of nurturing that friendship into something solid. I don't consider anyone I've known for less than three four years an actual friend. Shit takes time.

Also, don't fret, my man. We're all gonna make it. It ain't too late to start over. But I admit it gets harder with age.

Also, there are perks to solitude.
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>be me
>can easily connect with and befriend anyone
>choose not to because 95% of the people I end up talking to are boring and normie as shit
>feels alright
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>>382327401
>can you disagree with them on fundamental issues
There's very few things I have strong opinions about so the answer is no. Why would I be friends with someone who disagrees with me on something I care so much about? Who won't change their views to match mine? In fact all of my views are science based so they'd have to be a fucking retard to disagree with fact in the first place. As for honesty, I'm pretty damn honest with everyone so the automatic answer is yes. I won't be friends with someone who I don't feel comfortable being honest with.

What would you define friendship as, then, if not give-and-take? Like what the hell is your idea of friendship?

>>382327572
No, it doesn't, and I know that, and am trying to change it, but it's so fucking hard. When I care about someone I never ever want to hurt them in any way, and am terrified of losing them. So I put on a mask and pretend to be this happy-go-lucky, quirky manic pixie dream girl they can come to for fun and for advice. I'm trying really hard to not just have that as a mask but actually be that girl, because I used to be that girl naturally, but...Not anymore.
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>>382327701
>Also, there are perks to solitude.
Undisturbed masturbation being #1 of these perks. Also perky tits, wide hips and fat ass are God's gift to this world.
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>>382327401
Why have that fucking retarded high stakes I'll help you no matter what even if you literally stab me in the dick when you could find a friend that will only help you as long as you're helping them and vice versa. If you give enough to each other in other areas that you can disagree on fundamental issues than that's a true friendship.
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>>382327671
>anal
Scary.
>virginity
Mine's intact. Sex is scary.

>>382327701
It's hard for me to understand you because while I get the whole strong bond/solid friendship thing, is it really that solid if you just stop talking to one another?
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>>382325974
>How to read everything I write and say nu-uh
If you think that anything has any intrinsic value, then you disagree with everything I say at its core, there's no use arguing since we will perpetually disagree on everything
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>>382327483
Iktf. I don't even do anything anymore except think about my mental state. I don't know what else to talk about that isn't boring or embarrassing.
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>>382327635
fuck you, wanting to stay in contact with people I've known since fucking elementary school more than once a god damn year isn't autistic
I'm tired of fucking hints and online communication in general, it's a fucking bullshit song and dance with people avoiding what they really want to say the whole time for no fucking reason
if you don't want to talk to me fucking say it you pussy bitch nigger, this shit would never happen in person but because of the internet ruining how people socialize you can just ignore someone indefinitely
I fucking hate everything
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>>382320093
Yea no, try again , only girl on your profile is your mom.
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>>382327837
>>virginity
>Mine's intact. Sex is scary.
What are you Jehovah or something?
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>>382326503

>I know that logically but even now as I was typing all this, I thought "am I using 'I' too much? This is so self-centered, what a failure you are".

You're talking about yourself, nigga. Of course you're saying 'I' a lot.

You're overthinking things. I know that problem well. Working on overcoming it now.

I recommend hooking up with bitches on Tinder. It's an inexhaustible source of disposable people to practice on, and you get to fuck a babe every once in a while.
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>>382327909
Nope, just have severe daddy issues.
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>>382327053
This is bait, it sounds like you have good friends and a good relationships. Why not pick your favorite and try to "talk about serious stuff"?
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>>382327887
>tfw even your mum didn't friend you
That was a bad day.
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>>382318049
i had a friend like this and i really appreciated him......
sorry i dont have time for fighting games anymore bro....
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>>382327808
>undisturbed
Not if you live with your parents
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>>382327945
I thought oh daddy! issues meant that you fucked like crazy? Instead of being shut up tighter then a jewish bank vault desu.
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>>382320949
I stopped caring about birthdays when I turned into an adult. I don't understand mature people throwing a birthday party like some attention whore.

>HEY EVERYONE IM ONE YEAR CLOSER TO DYING
>LETS CELEBRATE AND BY THAT I MEAN YOU ARE NICE TO ME AND GIVE ME LOTS OF SHIT
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>>382327517
Shit, man. I never realized it went that deep. This is all really interesting to be, to sort of look into the thought process of a "normal" autistic person. I gotta give you credit for attempting to fit into the constrains of society, thats a whole lot more than most would ever think of doing. I think people are also a lot more forgiving when it comes to a kid not having social skills, like apparently thats normal. Self-awareness is a great trait to have, hell, most normies couldnt even start to tell you anything about how theh act or are perceived by others. Does socializing drain you mentally and physically? I'm mostly "normal"(well as normie as someone whos posting on /v/ could probably be) but Ill be damned if having to go out and feign small talk and sit through shitty conversations doesnt drain me at the end of the day. Shits rough and I like to delude myself into thinking even the most normie of individuals are drained from all that socializing.
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>>382324698
Programming is belief incarnate, not a set of rules you must obey with no other option, because the only other option is meaninglessness which is exactly what you don't want.
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>>382328026
At least you can take comfort in the fact that they haven't given up on you yet anon.
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>>382327943
>hooking up with bitches on tinder
Uhh, no thanks. I have fucking standards and would never give my virginity to someone who I don't completely trust. And me trusting someone takes yeeeeears. Also I live in a small town where everyone knows everyone.

>>382327968
I-It's not bait. I'm scared they'll think I'm weird, so I hide the part of me that is very inquisitive. Rationally I know they won't but my self-esteem issues override any rational part of me. And thus, I don't talk to them about /x/ related shit or my fear of death.

...Jesus christ I played the Episode Prompto DLC for FFXV earlier today and just now realized how similar I am to that son of a bitch.
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>>382326805
Nobody's going to tell you to fuck off except as a last resort.
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>>382327742
Why would someone change their views to match yours if they don't believe it? Friendship isn't give and take. True friendship is unconditional love for that person with total transparency of who you are together. That's how you find real friends, but you'll rarely, if ever, find someone that will reach you on that level. If you. Unless you're open, honest, and able to let yourself be that with someone, you'll never find someone who truly accepts you since you're always wearing a mask. Remove the mask and take the risk, or you'll have superficial friendships that are unfulfilling and stressful since you're always trying to appeal to someone and be on guard with fear.

Remove the fear. Start with small things like, someone asks "have you ever seen so-and-so movie?" Maybe you're incline to say yes to appeal. Just say no and ask what they think, and go from there.

It's difficult, but it's the only way to find people who see you as you and accept you.
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>>382322523
Aka your mom
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Reading through this thread I felt nothing and couldn't relate to you losing friends or even needing affection
I think my autism has transcended the need for human company
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>>382328070
Not him but would you call going into a 2 month social detox after a single 45 minute conversion a little on the extreme side? Its very fun I'll tell you that much, some nights I just wished that I could scoop my brain out and slap something in that wasn't wired all fucking wrong. Shit sucks.
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>>382318049
>>382320093
>>382320270
>>382321645
>>382326275


Why are people such fucking pussies? Why act so petty on who 'initiates' first? Just go talk to someone if you want to and if they ignore you, get the fuck over it and move on. None of this "b-b-b-but they never ask to talk to ME" insecure bullshit
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>>382328169
Sorry for bad English. I've been speaking and typing in Japanese for a year almost exclusively so I'm retarded.

Also didn't delete stuff.
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>>382328190
>autism
i think they call that being sociopath
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>>382328067
I hate holidays in general. Day to day life would be so nice if there weren't these constant events preventing productivity and a neatly scheduled lifestyle.
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>>382327971
>Defends mom is bf on Steam profile
Just no, KYS
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>>382328070
Yeah, it does drain me in both ways, and thank you for the compliments, you flatter me so kek. I have met a few "normies", including my former best friend, who were incredibly refreshed and excited by how I skipped the small talk with them. My ex best friend told me her favorite things about me were my kindness, my imagination, and my no-bullshit, no-small talk, straight-to-the-point attitude. I can't help but wonder if most people are annoyed by the song and dance and just want to be real, but are afraid of doing so because of the backlash they might receive. It's kind of sad.

>>382328169
Nigga I can't love someone if they don't agree with me on the fundamental things. It's not gonna happen, we have to be morally compatible. I can't accept them for those differences either so there's no point in trying.

I know all of that, and I'm trying so fucking hard. But by god is it hard. I have an intense desire to help people but the problem is talking to people is so goddamn draining and helping people is extremely stressful. I've had to fucking hide /adv/ because I know if I go there I'll stay up for 5 days straight helping 50 different people and will want to shoot myself an hour into it all.
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>>382318414
You can't play soul claibur 2 online
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>>382318049
sounds like a girl

they never iniante anything
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>>382328429
Seek therapy. Personal professional counseling. Your desire to please and appeal is hurting you.
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>>382328429
>I know all of that, and I'm trying so fucking hard. But by god is it hard. I have an intense desire to help people but the problem is talking to people is so goddamn draining and helping people is extremely stressful. I've had to fucking hide /adv/ because I know if I go there I'll stay up for 5 days straight helping 50 different people and will want to shoot myself an hour into it all.
You ever thought about becoming a charity worker with a pure spirit like that? Fucking hell helping out people on /adv/ of all places. Its like trying to empty the Pacific with a fucking tea cup.
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>>382328169
Hell people are usually okay with you saying "no" to seeing a certain movie or in that realm of entertainment. Theyre wanting to share it with you with the intent of conversating about it. You could even feign a sort of interest saying youve heard of it, and try to ease into a conversation that way. I mean of course youd rather talk about things youre interested in, but you gotta make sacrifices when you're out in the world, talking to real people.
>>382328251
Definitely close to the extreme side but I can totally understand your position. Aftrr I left high school I practically dropped all contact with people Ive known for 7+ years and talked to daily, for god knows what reason. I have a job where I have to constantly make small talk with others, which is easy. But when it comes to real conversation, afterwards I just want to hide for months. The brain is a terrifying thing if not wired right.
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>>382328067
motherfucker I wasn't throwing a party and asking for dumb gifts, I asked my two best friends to come hang out with me for one day out of the fucking year cause apparently they don't give enough of a shit about me anymore otherwise yet I still got fucking ignored
fuck you you fucking piece of shit, I did nothing to deserve being treated like fucking trash when all I ever did was invite people to come to stuff completely on my behalf
you think those fucking niggers ever invited ME to anything after all those years? after I did nothing but be friendly and generous?
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>>382328367
That's the most autistic thing I've read here in a while.
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>>382328169
> Friendship isn't give and take

It is. Go outside and stop watching anime for once, mkay? People respect only those who have certain above-average qualities, which contribute to the society in any way. It can be anything from good looks, to social status or intelligence. To be respected you must bring joy to other people in any way possible. Nobody loves anyone just because they exist. And if one person is better by pretty much every parameter than the other, they won't be friends, because they are not equal. Why would cool people hang out with losers who drag them down, suck their time and resources without generating anything of value?

If you are not superior in certain things in comparison to the other person, he won't find it interesting to talk to you. Think of it as covering each others backs. You are better at something, he's better at something, you both can be friends. If you are a boring, poor, ugly autistic prick with zero competence in anything, you are destined to either die alone like the failure you are, or to become a filthy parasite.
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>>382328469
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Most people play SC2 on dolphin online
You can also play that shitty PS4/Xbone version but no one plays that shit because the netcode is ass
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>>382328169
>unconditional love
How extremely Jewish.

I agree that you can't hide anything from a true friend but a true friend is also someone who you mutually provide for each other. If one of them starts taking advantage of the other and not putting out then in what world does it make sense that the other would continue that friendship.
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Holy shit kek. I'm using this for pasta.
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>>382328429
> Nigga I can't love someone if they don't agree with me on the fundamental things

Found the egomaniac. Not being able to live with someone who's different, that's fine. Disrespecting those who don't agree with you is fucked up.
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>>382327742

Unless you're talking about physics, chemistry or other natural sciences, your science-based views are plenty debatable. Also, there are many competing epistemological positions on the edge knowledge in any science. You're just an arrogant prick who can't have your opinion challenged and who arrogates himself free of cognitive dissonance.

You don't deserve friendship.
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>>382328067
Actually you stopped caring because you have no friends to come to said party. KYS
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All this is too draining. Been nice chatting with you guys though. Hope you all live happy lives. Gonna go to sleep and try to fill the emptiness, self-hatred, and sadness inside of me.

t. autistic femanon

>>382328536
I do go to therapy but I haven't brought that up yet. I'll do it next time I see my therapist.

>>382328542
That'd kill me on the inside. I'm not nearly as pure, I'm sorry. I hate helping people; not to say I don't like seeing them get help or that they don't deserve it, I hate it because it stresses me out like nothing else and makes me want to kill myself, but I do it all the time out of fear that if I don't help them, who will? I'm an asshole if I don't help them. The only time it does make me feel good is if I give a homeless man food or something. But helping people with their emotional issues is draining.

...Huh, maybe I could do charity work, so long as it doesn't involve peoples' emotions. Actually I used to volunteer at a homeless shelter when I was a teenager but quit because depression. I do like working with animals and I live near an animal shelter.
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>>382328563
You'd be surprised how many people I've seen who are so scared to not be liked they lie about dumb things like that, because they'll feel like they're accepted for just a millisecond, which dumps dopamine into their brain.

They do it again and again, and all of the sudden they're telling people they used to ride motorcycles until they got into an accident... Even though they've never ridden before.
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>>382328302
B-but I was kind of hoping they'd enjoy my company as much as they enjoy theirs, if they don't enjoy mine than what's stopping them from ignoring me and preventing me from eating their cummies?
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>>382327635
>not being able to write "im not interested in talking"
>not autistic
really made me think
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>>382328575
>I did nothing to deserve being treated like fucking trash
>after I did nothing but be friendly and generous

Faggot how old are you? You sound like a self pitying teenage girl who just learned that sometimes things in life are not fair. LMAO deal with it jesus man.
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>>382318049
Tfw I have a very clingy online friend who I occasionally erp with, he's cute but has alot of emotional problems. I don't want to just drop him because I fear for his mental stability, so I stay in contact with him. It's been up to 6 years and I act like a rubber ball for his emotions
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>>382328745
I want to fill your emptiness with cock!
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>>382328602
Go buy a card normie.
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>>382328429
I'd like to believe that about most people, really. I think people have a hell of a lot to hide due to wanting to conform to the norm and keep their "social" status. I've talked to total chads who will sperg out about Kingdom hearts and fucking entry level anime with me, that woild make them look like fucking losers in the face of their peers. Its definitely sad, almost depressing in a way. But at the same time it makes you really appreciate the ones who keep it real and have no problem showing you who they really are. The backlash may suck, but I feel like living a sort of lie and hiding how you really feel is just another recipe for disaster.
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this thread is starting to make me sad for wanting platonic affection
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>>382328727
>>382328728
Not that anon but
>you're an egomaniac if you hate people who support terrorism, child abuse, or animal abuse and don't deserve friendship
wew lad
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>>382328367
Samefag that masturbates over his mom on Steam. This board needs cleansing again, I see.
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>>382328815
> who I occasionally erp with
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>>382328735
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>>382318535
10/10 rip in pieces ukrainian water boy
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>>382327837

>is it really that solid if you just stop talking to one another?

People have to move for work/study/whatever. They move abroad and change phones. I don't really do facebook and many of my friends don't either. Also, a lot of this sort of thing happened 10-15 years ago. Also, circumstances may lead people to isolate themselves for a while.

Then they come back and it's all good.

Nowadays it's not as much of an issue.
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Consider the following: its better to just tell someone to stop messaging you (as frequently) than to be a dick and ignore.
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>>382328302
>None of this "b-b-b-but they never ask to talk to ME" insecure bullshit

Would you want a one side relationship in which you go on dates and the person is nice but never puts out or invites you further?

The same thing, except platonic.
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>>382322217
>showing up at a restaurant in your full combat gear

What a dumb cunt
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>>382318049
>tfw I've stopped talking to my online bro for over 2 months now
>always go offline on steam but then remembered that he has my number but hasn't talked to me since

I guess I deserve it
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>>382328762
>They do it again and again, and all of the sudden they're telling people they used to ride motorcycles until they got into an accident... Even though they've never ridden before.
Hey to be fair I have ridden a motorcycle before, just not legally because I failed my license test due to fears of getting squashed by a truck on the highway. That said theres nothing wrong with riding skill I just don't like being in heavy traffic and being one step away from having my face being sandwiched between the asphalt and a 8 ton truck.
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>>382328814
>deal with having the only two people in your life you really connected with completely forget about you and never reciprocate your kindness
go fuck yourself cunt
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>>382318049
>be me
>afraid of being the one to initiate things
>people like OP think I don't like them
Feels bad.
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>>382328867
Anon, you sound like a really great person, simply for the fact you recognize this shit and understand it. Keep on keeping on, my dude. Can relate to the Chad experience btw. Fuck social status, tell me more about how much your football playing, cheerleader fucking ass wants to see Roxas and Sora kiss. cuz that's the real you, not the chad you try to be.
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>>382328619
Why watch anime when I live in Japan. It's the same thing.

You can get by like that, sure, but deep connections come from more than just how much this guy makes me seem cooler. Otherwise you're just superficial on the surface, and when you are in a jam brosiedon won't be coming for you since "shit what do I get out of this, he'll drag me down."

>>382328664
Super jew, I know, but once you start seeing shit like that happen you probably weren't true 友達 in the first place.
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>>382328619
But boring, poor, ugly autistic prick with zero competence in anything are funny and deserve to be humored.
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>>382328945
you could make up some bullshit excuse like "Yo I just got a new job and I don't have time for anything anymore" and then just kinda stop talking to them

You will hurt their feelings less I guess.
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>>382328251

I was like that in college. I would basically go to a party once every two months, stand around weirdly, and then spaz out.

Fortunately, I'm okay in work settings or academic stuff. I can talk about related stuff forever without being awkward, but if you asked me what I did for fun, I would freeze.
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>>382329034

Never be honest with people.

It's not worth it.
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>>382328745
Good. Tell your therapist about your intense desire to please and help.

And if you're that bad charity work would kill you since you'd devote more than you can handle to it. Work on yourself first. You can't help others if you can't help yourself.

Good luck. 頑張ってください。
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>>382329026
You don't want to be dragged down with them either tho. That just makes it worse. Of course you care about them but I had to dump my one and only gf because her severe depression was making me severely depressed and it wasn't worth it. She got the help she needed and I knew she wouldn't get it from me when she kept dragging me down.
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>>382322027
Then you go deeper and just see that your preception might bot real.
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>>382328762
Yeah, I guess I didnt think to that extreme. White lies become black lies and before you know it, they start to believe their own lies and no one even knows who they really are. But in the end it will crash and burn, its just so much easier to say "oh no man I havent seen that, whats it about?" then to delude yourself in your head that youll be liked if you can pretend to know what theyre talking about. Human beings are fucking weird, man. I still dont even fully understand myself sometimes.
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>>382328745
Oh shut the fuck up nobody cares crybaby
Go tend to your """"""ptsd""""""
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>>382328989
Man you really feel sorry for yourself do you? Grow some balls or just KYS. Life is only gonna get harder, you realise this, right? Oh and yeah, most normal people do actually just deal with it and move on and eventually meet people who are cool.
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>>382328887
Now that's some top tier strawman. Like the most conformist classical media attempt to bring up something considered universally bad. Terrorism, child abuse and all that are vague terms with almost no meaning. What you consider terrorism, others may consider a fight for freedom. What the government considers child abuse, may be a consensual relationship with a 15 year old.

If you disrespect others after hearing that they support [insert a buzzword], without even talking with them, you should keep your ego in check.
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>Have best friend for like 15 years
>We go different paths in life but still talk online
>Send message on facebook and get no reply
>Think his steam is bugged because he's always offline
>Realise a few years later via a bug where you can see peoples ignore lists and i'm on it
>Its now been like 8 years and I have no idea why he ghosted me.


Oh..
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>>382328947
if you aren't happy with the relationship, speak up about it to them or move on. Don't be a cowardly child trying to use psychological warfare on a simple fucking hello. This is why everyone sees 4chan as autistic.
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>>382328971
Without her gear you won't be able to tell her apart from a generic slut #978
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I could never make friends online. Back in the day when left 4 dead and tf2 were popular on steam I might end up adding a few people here and there, but I never felt the need to message them outside of games. Now I play a lot of strategy games like endless legend and eu4 and wish I had 5 or 6 people to play with because those games get boring after playing against only the """AI"""
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>used to play lots of f2p mmos when i was younger
>met 2 dudes on trickster online
>chillest fucks ever used to stay up all night cracking jokes and messing with people
>lose internet for a year since poor
>come back a year later but they haven't logged online
>check mail 6 months later see a message from them
>"we know you dont have internet right now but when you get back add us on myspace lets form some guilds on other games"
>by that time myspace went full music and there pages were gone
it still hurts miss you shunko and cuilan
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>>382329218
Because you're an emotional clingy person with no self worth.
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>>382323432
Women killed all my friendships.
Fucking succubi, I hate the lot of them.
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>>382328114

SPOILERS: You first time having sex ain't gonna be that great.

PROTIP: Acquire experience to become better at sex.

Also, you're insulating yourself because you somehow see yourself as this paragon of purity living in a corrupt world. You're not. You're just a guy who's scared of facing the music. Your solitude is all on you, you're not really smarted than extroverted people, you're not really that interesting and you're not "purer", you're just scared to dig into real experience. Believe me. I've been there.

On a side note. The chicks on Tinder aren't disposable because they're all disgusting whores (some of them are for sure, though). They're disposable because you're under no obligation to keep them in your life, but you get to meet delightful people as well.
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>>382329153
Yo man ease up on the truth bombs will ya because I'm starting to doubt that I'm actually alive right now and that I haven't just been conjuring up this lie of epic proportions that will kill me once I stop having faith in it.
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>>382322217
>tulpa
You mean you're schizophrenic? Cool.
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>>382322217
your tulpa just told me that they hate you.
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>>382329020
Thanks anon, that actually means a lot. Seriously. Ive lurked here for years, Ive hardly posted on here before but this thread really intrigued me, and Im glad to find like minded individuals on a mongolian shitposting board to have nice genuine conversation with. Social status is a fucking joke, I wanna hear about the fucking kawaii uguu japanese anime I know you watched last summer, not all the damn poon you slayed over the weekend by pretending to be someone you're not.
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>>382329196
>He's a moral relativist

Wew, I remember being 15 too. Have fun with that.
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>>382329161
they're the only real friends I ever had you fucking faggot, I have every justification for being upset about getting thrown to the wayside
I have no future, I'm not moving on anywhere and I'll certainly not have the chance to connect with anybody on that level again
I honestly don't think I'll make it another decade before I blow my brains out
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>>382325931
>autism affects girls differently
How? I didn't know that. Diagnosed aspie boy here
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>>382323020
>>382323267
http://lifehacker.com/how-to-realize-youre-being-a-narcissistic-ass-and-stop-1690920401
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>>382328869
You deserve to experience sadness weakling.
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>>382329034
They are sad and putrid losers, nothing funny about that. "Humoring" is just a codeword for being a bully. Friendly banter goes both ways. If it's aimed towards one person, that's just mockery which will turn them into even bigger degenerates.
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>>382329278
Whenever I add people from /v/ they're always one of these:

>extremely autistic to the point were communicating becomes a draining task
>flaming homosexuals who type like :) :D ^_^
>Anime loving weaboos with some little girl as a profile pic and a bunch of Japanese text thrown into the mix

Am I just unlucky?
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I bet you're the kind of guy who changes his name and avatar every other fucking day.

I've had this where some people would always be the ones to initiate conversations with me, most of the time I'd enthusiastically chat back, every now and then I would not because hey I'm not just always in a chatty mood, anyway when I notice we didn't have a chat in forever and get a sense of "oh man how about you initiate the conversation for a change" I just can't fucking find them on my friends list
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>>382329137
That's fair. Every situation is different and if you're hurting because of someone else constantly, then to get out was a smart move. Severing relationships is hard, but sometimes you have to if it's starting to destroy you.

>>382329153
Humans are fascinating. They work in so many ways, but in the end we're social creatures that want to be accepted. Some are so scared not to be they're fabricate to the extreme. And you're right - they do crash and burn in the end. Lying never helps any friendship.
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>>382329328
Sorry dawg, didnt mean to make you question your existence. Do what makes ya happy, just be careful with yourself. Not many people deserve that level of self-destruction.
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>>382329258

People will never say

>we think you're a weirdo

to your face.

It's programmed into them not to be confrontational with middle class normies. They will just avoid conflict and pretend to care about whatever thing you ask about, then go back to ignoring you.

Or you are the ugly girl who hangs out with the pretty girls to make them feel better.
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So how to deal with this kinds of situations?
Drop those persons who don't respond and search for someone who will message you too?
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>>382329326
>You first time having sex ain't gonna be that great.
Yeah no kidding right? If my boy isn't feeling like a dead fish on most days its the phimosis that will make the experience so much more fun.
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>>382324049
>my country doesn't have any form of religious organisations that allow for such solitary ventures
I don't believe you.
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>>382328980
Maybe when you no longer need to rely on others you can actually make mutually beneficial relationships.
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>>382329375
Do you have to feel sorry for yourself in every single comment you type? Man it must be miserable being you. All you do is feel sorry for yourself for no good reason. You want your mommy to come and comfort you? I guess you really should just blow your brains out, natural selection at it's finest.
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>>382329324
lol look at this virgin having a meltdown
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>>382328114
>>hooking up with bitches on tinder

>some girl at work makes me a Christian mingle dating site profile

I never logged into it.
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>>382328619

That's why you'll probably not befriend a bum. Friends are usually intellectual and social peers. But your bond isn't borne out of one trying to take advantage from the other. No one is denying friendships have benefits, but those benefits are incidental.

I have a friend who's a dental surgeon who gets me good deals on treatments with his colleagues. That's not why I'm his friend, nor why I have been his friend. I just love the guy and we have a bond of trust.
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>>382328190
It'll come back when you turn 18.
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>>382318049
>Have a friend online
>Really hit it off and talk personally
>One day my friend stops messaging me.
>Realized that he's the one that always started our conversations.
>Don't know what to do and don't want to bother him.
>He'll just contact me when he's not so busy, I suppose.
>Never messages me again.
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>>382318049

Same thing here, but I'm on the other side of the spectrum.

I don't do shit outside of go to work and then come home to relax. I prefer to spend my evenings at home alone, not one to go out and do shit.

I don't enjoy small talk and have nothing to talk about so I don't initiate unless it's been a while since I and the other person have spoken. I can't stand people who want to have long winded conversations every day. Leave me alone to do my own thing. Go be extroverted somewhere else if you need conversation that badly.
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>>382329475
>It's programmed into them not to be confrontational with middle class normies. They will just avoid conflict and pretend to care about whatever thing you ask about, then go back to ignoring you.

sounds like you need to get better """friends""", anon.

but seriously, bring the topic up to them individually if it bothers you so much. nothing will change if you don't speak up. if you feel they're ignoring you, move on.
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>>382329398
thanks anon
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>>382329495
Its all communal based brah. The modern equivalent of becoming a religious hermit is practically unheard of in my country.
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>>382329375
they were never your friends dude. I had a friend of a friend who would always latch on to these groups and try to be "accepted" and it turned out the same way every time, just like your story.

I've managed to not want to kill myself all this time because even as a kid I had an instinct about people, and I was extremely careful about who I considered a friend. I've only got about 5 but I consider those guys brothers.

Learn to differentiate between acquaintances and friends and you'll be much happier. I've had dozens of acquaintances that I really fucking liked hanging out with move on with their lives and I don't see them any more.
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>>382318049
I'm pretty much your friends, I rarely start a conversation with people and if they don't talk to me, I don't bother them assuming they have something better to do.
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>>382328251

That's called being a child. You need to grow up. You didn't grow up with anyone or anything pressuring you to actually face people and care, so you take the easy way out now because you care.

But who cares, you're probably going to blame it on a mental condition, start popping anti-depressants and play videogames all day whilst lying to your friends about it.
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>>382329026
That's exactly what happens. Nobody is gonna give you their kidney unless you were totally worth it before. People stay close for as long as it's convenient, the moment your existence starts giving them more shit than good emotions, they will disappear, and unless you are totally naive egomaniac, you will understand that they did a right thing.

Partnership is always a win-win situation. If someone wins at your expense, it means he doesn't give a shit about you.
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>>382329468
I do understand how much the want to be accepted could be, its just so fascinating to me that some people will go out of their way to fabricate their whole existences to have their peers accept them. And to what end? The dopamine rush of people liking your lies, and not who you are? This whole thread has got me in an endless loop of thinking. Id like to thank you anons for the great conversations. Good thread.
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>>382322217
That's cool, what's her name? I tried once, but just didn't have the dedication
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>>382329740
>But who cares, you're probably going to blame it on a mental condition, start popping anti-depressants and play videogames all day whilst lying to your friends about it.
Yeap minus the friends part though. Just wanted to correct you on that.
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>>382318049
I'm sorry Arseni I'll really message you more
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>>382329375
Ignore the other cunt, your friends should've at least given a reason why they didn't come.
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>>382329362
Even more pretentious buzzwords on top of ad hominem. What else to expect from a cunt who supports only people sharing the same opinions.
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>>382329485

C'mon, man. You can overcome phimosis by fapping. You're on 4chan of all places.
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>>382329801
Alice
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>>382320389
>not realizing the universe is the result of quantum fluctuations
>not realizing we are in a simulation made by someone who wanted to figure out their universe
>not realizing that our life is meaningless to the power of the amount of simulation recursion we are in
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>>382320551
I had a few people I talked to daily, called me a friend.
But then i figured they weren't actually my friends because ??? and i dropped contact.
Still confused as to why i did it.
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>>382329767
That's where you and I differentiate. You see friendship as, from what you described, almost as business transaction or deal. I don't see it that way, but I respect how you view it.
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>>382318049
>not living life the way high school movies taught you
i start conversations after somebody else started it.

Stop being so fucking desperate
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>>382329716
you don't understand, I wasn't a third wheel trying to be accepted
I thought of them like my brothers too, we were nearly inseparable for a long time
of course they still never invited me to anything but we had an uncountable number of good times together, then all of a sudden dropped like a sack of bricks
I have literally no one left anymore, I'm very rapidly losing any reasons to not kill myself at this point
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>>382329290
> lose internet for a year since poor
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>>382329921
Mate when your practically fighting with your boy to keep the skin back over the knob you then that there is something definitely wrong here.
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>go on steam or xbox
>all my friends I used to play with every night for hours
>last online 4 years ago

Into my heart an air that kills
From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills,
What spires, what farms are those?

That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again.
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>online friends
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>>382329975

How does it feel, being completely alone in the world?
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>>382318049
tfw its like this with all of my "friends" IRL
A-atleast I have them
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>>382329990
Lesson 1. Do not over invest yourself into the lives of your peers. It will only lead to failure.
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We're all gonna make it bros, even you turbo autists arguing against each others feelings in this thread. It may not happen tonight, tomorrow, or a week from now, but we're all gonna make it. Friends or no friends.
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I'm one of those people anon, I'm sorry but I just don't find whatever we talk about interesting enough to go out of my way to initiate a conversation. It's not that I hate you or anything like that, it's just apathy.

nothin personnel kid
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>>382329990

>they still never invited me to anything

Bruh.
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>>382330051
Not as bad as you might think it would be.
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>this entire thread
Ah yes, I remember what it was like being me a year ago
Don't worry anons you'll grow out of it
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>>382330051
Ah, I see now. I wish you in the best in life.
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Here's a tip to everyone in this thread.

Stop being a pussy and caring about what people think. You want to talk to someone, talk. You don't, don't.

It is literally that simple. It's the stupid niceties and masks and virtue signalling that fuck everything up. Even with real physical friends, that shit's stupid and people still do it, but online? Jesus. Just be honest and talk about what you want, and you'll surround with people who like you for that eventually.

Or keep lying and trying to keep people happy and continuously get dumped when people find others that they can genuinely talk to.

I swear, this generation is fucking retarded.
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>>382318049

OP I know the feeling, except with a real life friend. It was a girl I knew since grade 1 and we went to the same schools together, we were even in about 50% of the same university classes together. She'd always want to partner up with me to do projects in uni together, and was asking me for answers to the homework and shit like that. I'd try talking to her but her replies were often just one word answers like "lol" or "cool". It took me until the last year of university to realize that she never messaged me even once first unless it was to ask about homework or projects (I couldn't remember how things were in high school or prior). So I stopped messaging her to see how long it would take her to message me. Sure enough, a few days past and she wanted to know what the homework was for a class she missed. I didn't respond. She never tried to talk to me again after that for any reason. We graduated from university and she didn't even say hi to me at the after party. It's been like 6 years now. No facebook message, nothing. The only thing I regret was being too stupid to realize I was being used for so long.
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>>382329975
You need to stop watching anime and grow up. Why bother wasting time off your schedule on a non-mutually benefiting relationship?
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>>382329481
Yes
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>>382330051
頑張ってください。
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>>382325931
Are you cute
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>>382330184
>You want to talk to someone, talk. You don't, don't.
Thats terrible advice, if you wanna talk to someone you don't until they talk to you.

or are you a fucking pathetic faggot desperate to talk to someone?

But seriously its pathetic to talk to someone, just wait for them to reach to you first so is not pathetic.
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>>382327635
Nobody is autistic there, but its a master/slave relationship, a light form of it. One person really values and engages the friend, while the friend appreciates it but isn't motivated to really bother to return the affection for this or that reason.
Its a shitty kind of friendship, but its the best some people can get.
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>>382329391
https://zenhabits.net/25-killer-actions-to-boost-your-self-confidence/
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>>382330239
She's (male) dead. Jim.
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>>382320389
True. Only thing we leave behind is legacy and even that can get destroyed.
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>>382330184
/thread.
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>>382330082
I have to have someone to talk to, I can't fucking handle being stuck with my own horrible thoughts
I just get sad and angry and there's no fucking end to my self loathing, people aren't designed to be completely fucking alone
>>382330110
yeah my life sounds fucking grand don't it
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>>382330239
You missed the autistic trap boat anon, I'm sorry. Maybe next time?
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>>382318049
>be around 2011 - 2012
>playing minecraft
>meet a guy there who's pretty cool
>he invites me to his mumble
>introduces me to his friends
>still good friends now
I got really fucking lucky
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>>382330292
Autism
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>>382330348
So whats stopping you from kys then? The pain? Just pinch some laughing gas and kek yourself to death. Go out with a bang lol.
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>>382329975
you're a fucking narcissist
stop
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>>382318049
Doesn't mean you cant be friends. Some people are always going to take the backseat in a friendship like that. When you 'suddenly' stop messaging him, he might not be sure what to think, and is too beta to ask whats up. Or maybe he just doesn't really care.
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>>382329975
Everyone sees it that way, the only difference is that i have a real definition for what friendship is. Naive people tend to imply some different meaning, which they can't explain, bringing up all kinds of voodoo magic as explanation.

It's the same with loving anything in the world. Like video games. When someone starts hyping up a game, and you ask them "what's so good about it?" they tend to get shocked and their brain freeze for like 5 seconds until coming up with something like "what do you mean what's good? i like it". That's a pure example of overblown ego where subjective opinion is held as universal truth. There is a reason for absolutely every action, doesn't matter if you realize it or not. You brain already did it for you, even if you can't explain how.
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>>382330216
You'd be surprised how friendships can flourish when you stop seeing them as something to push your own gains forward.
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>>382322062
Holy shit are you me
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>>382330346
Not yet bro, let the butthurt flow some more.
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>>382330216
This anon gets it.

Most of the posts in this thread can be solved by growing up and growing a pair (yes, even the trannies in the thread).

This overly philosophical/analytical bullshit reeks of someone who doesn't know how relationships work and has never had a real one. Stop watching anime and sucking up to people. Just fucking talk to them.
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>>382329553
So you're suggesting that I find a random bum on the street and tell him I'm his best friend, then once I've given him my wallet and car and he drives off into the sunset I wipe a tear from my eye and think, "I love you Filthy Frank"...
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>>382330461
No but I am you and we are one one one one
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How do you become valuable to another person?
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>>382330348
I was gonna write you a nice reply to comment on your shit situation, but cmon man. You're wallowing in your self pity so hard and clinging to nostalgia to the point you're deluding yourself. Who the fuck cares if they didnt invite yoi anywhere? Appreciate the good times you had. Good times end eventually, my friend. You need to stop focusing so much on your narcisstic depression and do something, anytgung, with yourself. Or just end up offing yourself in the end.
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This thread...
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>>382330601
I dunno a nice slice of suicide with a side of chips sounds pretty good right about now.
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>>382330348
Just grow up, you child. You think you're fucking special? Everyone gets that, even fucking normies.

Either grow up or kill yourself, currently, you're a waste of oxygen.
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>>382330442
I'm sorry you feel that way.
>>382330454
I believe I have a real definition of friendship as well, and it's given me some amazing relationships. It's just that we agree to disagree with how we view them. I'm happy it works for you.
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>>382330559

I'm suggesting exactly the opposite, you illiterate fuck.
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>>382330375
Just not pathetic.
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Now to sit back and watch this shit crash and burn.
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>tfw no internet friends to play video games with
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>this thread
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>Start a game
>Friend starts his game as well immediately and just invites me to his group
>Doesn't ask If I actually want to play together
>He's also terrible
>Too polite to tell him I'm gonna solo
>Stop playing the game
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How about actaully finding people who are on the same level as you and have common interests?
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>>382326805
Don't expect people to tell you to fuck off. That's where the phrase 'take a hint' originates. Move on.
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>>382330816

Weak. Just tell the truth and say you're gonna play solo for a bit.

People aren't as fragile as you think.
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>>382320389
those "neurochemical reactions" are God, faggot. And you don't know dick about them besides their chemical composition. Which tells you fuck all .
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>>382330854
>Find someone with the same common interest
>They're douchebags
>Don't want to associate with them
>Die alone
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>>382320389
>"hahaha look at me im rick ahahahhahaa i drink because im a supergenius ahahahah look at me ahahahhah,"
its an okay show
>>
"Wah I'm so sad and lonely and it's my fault and it'll never get better please pity me it's my (insert disorder here) i wish I was a normie wah"

I hate the current year. The kids don't even have the common courtesy to off themselves instead of potentially corrupting the gene pool with their millenial garbage.
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>>382330348
Kill all humans lol
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>>382330958

>Find someone with different interests
>Actually talk to them instead of dismissing them outright
>Find a friends and discover new interesting things
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>>382320389
>"hahaha look at me im rick ahahahhahaa i drink because im a supergenius ahahahah look
at me ahahahhah,"
its an okay show
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>>382330779
It was nice while it lasted. The turbofaggots who just want to jerk off their own sadness have taken over.
>>382330816
>playing league of faggots back when it first came out
>good friend of mine always invites me, feeds, and just generally trolls around
>fun the first few times, but Id like to actually win because Im autistic
>dont want to tell him this because Id come off as a dick
>download a modded client so I can be seen as offline
>eventually just stop playing
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>friend introduces me to another friend of his
>"hey this is anon, he's a really funny guy"
>"say something funny anon"
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>>382330601
>anything
like what? I'm either lying in bed vapidly browsing the internet or get bored enough to play vidya which at best feels like filling a quota and at worst sends me into a screaming rage, which is most of the time
am I supposed to just not care about being absolutely worthless my entire life even to the people I thought really cared? I can't just flip a switch to undo fucking decades of mental anguish
it's not like they even moved away or anything, and even then we live in an age where you can instantly communicate across the globe yet nobody can spare a few seconds of their time to check in every now and then?
sorry but I don't buy that fucking horseshit
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>>382331056
HEEEEEY MORTY I'M PICKLE FUCKING RIIIIIIIICK LOLLL xD xD xD *pickle dabs* LIFE IS MEANINGLESS xD
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>>382331097
"haha feminism lol top kek niggers 4uuuuuu"
There, was that so hard?
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>>382330742
You're suggesting that if I want to talk to him and help him out I should expect that he wants to talk to me and help me out?
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>>382329990
so my loser friend of a friend thought he was friends with all of those people too.

You'd be surprised how easy it is to make new friends dog. Just go to something that isn't normie and I guarantee you 99% of the people there will be playing whatever video games are popular right now (I guess dota 2 and overwatch), which just so happen to be multiplayer team games.

Go to like a pen and paper game shop, a HEMA gym, an anime convention, comic book store, whatever you're interested in. Tolerate the autists and look for people with at least halfway decent social skills.

That troll that was fucking with you earlier does have a point. You cant let your self worth be determined by the love of other people. And honestly man, just about every 21st century male loses the bulk of their friendships when they get families and full time jobs. There have been sociology articles written about it because its such a big problem. Males don't tend to have friendships into their 40s in our culture.
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>>382331097
What did you say?
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>>382331097
"Your sex life."

I'm not even funny, but that's an easy one.
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>>382331149
Grow. Up.

You have the mental stability and probably capacity of a 16 year old.
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>>382330780
Literally might as well just shove a stick of dynamite up your ass and light it and compress the next 10 years of your life into 10 seconds.
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>>382331169
>Expecting anything
Don't be so fucking entitled.
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>>382331373
Fucking shitlords....calle calle
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>>382331351
I don't get it, do you want to be friends :3
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>>382331373
>entitled
Self-entitled
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>>382331276
>grow up
>stop caring, stop having feelings, accept your shitty life with no friends or fun forever even though nothing prepared you for it at all
I'll take killing myself instead, thanks for the offer
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>>382330721
> i am sorry you feel that way
> i feel happy for you

Now that's just being passive-aggressive.
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>>382331464
I'll be your friends (male) bby.
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>>382331149
Yes. You're literally supposed to stop caring. You're wallowing, burying your head in your own pity. You're basing your value off of whether others care about you or not, while not taking care of yourself so others have reasons to care. If you're going to do nothing with yourself and continue to hate yourself, why would anyone take the time? The problem is you, and only you can fix it. I can't tell you how, as I dont personally know you, but your constant tirade of "wahhh im sad and lonely i just wanna kill myself because these peoole who really didnt WANT me around anyway dont check up on me wahh" is embarrassing. Yes, it fucking sucks. Yes, it fucking hurts. But you either off yourself or learn to not give a fucking shit.
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>>382331175
Its all women fault.

Anyway there's introverts. Lot of men grow up to be introverts post school, we are forced to socialize to fit in and waste time together.
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>>382318049
whichever guild i belonged to in GW or GW2 gave me this feeling of being irrelevant. no one cared about me, i always had to make sure the team waits for me etc. everyone treated me with politness or ignored at best, but none really cared. the same thing happens irl. i am just unlikeable it seems. have only few friends and i always have to start invinting them for meetings etc, hardly ever the other way around.
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>>382331373
So I should give my wallet and car to filthy Frank not expecting anything?
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>>382331498
If you think that's growing up, then you probably should kill yourself, yes.
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>>382331605
Will he could use them considering hes full blown autism and they need all the help they can get.
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>>382331553
Znam ten uczuć :^)
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>>382331506
I was replying to two different Anons.
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>>382322989
You're working under the assumption that it's not all bullshit.
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>>382331498
hey if your gonna kys, can i have your stuff? just put it all up on mega.
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>>382331672
>>382331553
przejmujemy ten filmik
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>>382331616
This. Its called maturity. This guys mentality is stuck in 15 year emo land. Life blows a majority of the time. People suck. But in the end you have YOURSELF. Not those fucking idiots. Cherish the good times you had and move on.
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>>382329930
Are you a naturally talkative person? What drives the desire for conversation?
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>>382331553
Stop being nice. Just bully them.

People are retards though.
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>>382331498
Paypal me your unemployment benefits if you do.
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>>382331659
But now I don't have any more wallets or cars to give more people that need them.
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>>382318049
I don't message people because I feel like I don't have anything to say that's worth them hearing. I enjoy when someone messages me, but I assume that when they're not messaging me it's because they don't want to talk to me. This goes for texts and phone calls too. >>382318142 is incorrect.
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>see these threads on /v/ all the time
>CTRL+F my old username that I was a huge faggot on to people here on /v/
>never seen it come up once
Whew, I don't know how long I can avoid it though, since all of them I met on /v/.
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>>382331814
A desire for companionship.
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>don't like being with people
>feel terribly lonely alone
What do I do?
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>>382331616
>>382331780
So if becoming more desensitized to life's hardships isn't maturing, what is?
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>>382331780
Eh, I'd wager he's actually fifteen. If so, he'll grow out of it. If not, he's probably a lost cause because he doesn't understand things at a very basic level, and he's too proud/far gone to accept that.
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>>382320093
You should initiate sex with her
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>>382331921
kys going by this thread mate.
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>>382331175
I'm a neet shut-in so 90% of the time I'm not even interacting with anybody at all
and even when I've gone out to shit like an anime convention or fightan tournament that doesn't help, I cant handle introducing myself to strangers and building a relationship off of that
even if I somehow get the courage to I just go back to being a shut in for an extended period of time afterward and nothing else happens, I don't drive so I can't go hang out randomly on my own even if I wanted to
also maybe it's just some fucked up part of my brain but the people I've met through stuff like fightan I don't consider on the same tier of friendliness as the guys I was talking about or other people I've known since I was single digits years old, I can't build that kind of comradery off of just one mutual interest in such a short span of time
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>>382331531
5 star post.

Ive been there man. Fell in love, got rejected. I drank soooooo much whiskey for two years... I didn't event want to smoke any weed because weed made the pain go away where alcohol just made me feel it more.

It took me a long time, but after I came out of my stupor I realized that I'm genuinely not worth loving. I didn't have a real job, no real social life, no hobbies, and no interests outside of nerdy and intellectually stuffy things. So what did I do? I manned up and started working on improving myself.

Literally the the week I made the decision I gave this girl my number at a library (first time Ive ever asked a stranger out) and we ended up dating for 6 months.

Don't be your own worst enemy guys. The reason Chad's get all these girls is because they're literally too stupid to be introspective, so they never have a reason to get depressed.
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>>382320389
>dude if you close the blinds and shut the door can you really be sure the outside world still exists?
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>>382331921
Go to downtown, find a park/bench and sit.

Alone around people,its the best feeling.
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>>382328067

>implying a birthday party as an adult isn't an excuse to drink and have a good time

It's just for fun bro, what kind of birthday parties have YOU been going to?
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>>382331921
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
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>>382331524
Great, where can I contact you!
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>>382331821
i dont know i have weird personality traits. im socially awkward as fuck, but still something between normie and autist.
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>>382332025
13 hours of masturbation
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>>382324975
Pretty much the same but I'm married. Most of my IRL friends went out of state after college. I have a few friends but I hardly ever see them. I'm a very solitary person. Did all that "my group of Bros" shit in highschool and college and lost my taste for it. I do have a solid group of people to bullshit with in my discord though. It's a perfect situation for me especially since I've been digging into a 4x game and an mmo.
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>>382331984
See? This is what growing up is, thread.

It's not becoming desensitized and accepting life is shit. It's taking responsibility for your life and changing it. That's being an adult.
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>be introverted and socially anxious
>start uni
>have zero problems meeting new people
>get invited to parties a ton
>end up getting bored/stressed out
>start declining invitations and flatout ignoring
>stop getting invitations eventually

Now that I'm older I feel like I should have left my comfort zone way more often.

>>382331921
Figure out why you don't like being around people and fix it.
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>>382320389
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>>382318049
>be me
>one week before turning 18
>join Second Life (I'm a faggot, yes, I know.)
>explore around, meet a group of anime avatars hanging out
>befriend all of them
>one of them is a avid gamer
>play games with them a lot
>be close friends with them for a year or two
>slowly grow apart
>realize that half the time I started the convos
Where did I go wrong, /v/? Aside from joining SL of course.
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>>382318049
>a friend is someone you talk to every day
you need an activity, a chat group, some game whatever, if you BOTH have a good time then thats literally all that matters, even if is just once a month.
Now if the other doesnt show any interest during conversations then drop him, whatever.
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Jesus Christ /v/ is full of narcissists what the FUCK
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>>382332229
Being about 3 hours late to thread for one thing brah.
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>>382332025
I don't drink and I never will since I've been in line for a liver transplant for 6 years
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>>382320093
>girl wants to talk to me everyday
>always initiates
>life not interesting enough to have something to talk about every day
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>>382325974
If nothing existed on Earth would it still matter? Or does it matter because we exist on it?
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>>382332290
>not talking about what you fapped to the night before
she might be kinky like that bro, go for gold.
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>>382332256
You mean edgy manchildren who never grew up.

You can be a narcissist and still be a relatively well-adjusted, successful person. In fact, the two are often correlated.
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>have a sort of non verbal mental tourrettes
>can't help but compulsively think of doing the worst thing I can imagine when around people, like pointing out how fat or ugly they are or screaming again and again what they just said if it was in any way weird

There's probably medication for this but I have trouble holding work. Anyone know any jobs that I could possibly find that require almost 0 human interaction?
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>>382331932
You can be very very emotionally stable and desensitized to hardship and still have empathy. I genuinely think you have autism.
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>>382328469
thought the same fucking thing.
>gets excited that peopñe is taling about UT
>its actually fucking undertale
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>>382332256
They're all jaded kids in their early twenties. Expected.
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>>382332362
Man you totally should have been in this thread about 400 posts earlier,, you would have had a fucking ball with this shit.
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>>382331984
>The reason Chad's get all these girls is because they're literally too stupid to be introspective, so they never have a reason to get depressed.
kek this exactly. I was friends with Chad in high school, the guy was dumb as a rock but happy-go-lucky and constantly getting laid. It took me years and a horrible breakup to finally come to terms with that and realize that change and the impetus for change comes from within. No hard feelings for the guy however.
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>>382332372
I agree with you, I just think a step of the adaption process is living with your passive malcontent on the malcontent doesn't phase you to the point it prevents you from being more productive.
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>>382318049
Bro i am sperg and literally never ever initiate conversation because i am retarded in that way. I don't want to bother people (don't have that problem on anonymous imageboards) but most of the time it just doesn't occur to me in the first place. Whenever people ask me hey what's up or want me to show something I always really apreciate that.
He could be like that.
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>>382331972
I didn't mean to suggest that you'd be able to make friends quickly and easily. But you can make acquaintances quickly and easily. Friendships are a natural thing man you can force it, but chances are if you can build a social network (a real one, not internet bullshit) of 25 people, there's probably going to be a least one that you could be friends with.

But at the end of the day you have to just force yourself to do things you don't want to do. You said you don't drive. Fix that. I hated driving for the longest time because I get anxiety, but believe me being able to is like a prerequisite for adulthood. It gives you power and agency. I like to stay home and hate going out as well, but ill tell you I've never had any drunk women stumble into my bedroom looking to fuck. You need to venture into the woods every now and then to survive my man.

don't feel so worthless either man. You've got random niggers on /v/ taking time out of their extremely busy and fulfilling lives to give you advice (lel). But seriously, these people want to help you because they relate to you and they've been there.

As far as social anxiety goes. I remember my first year of college, I autistically imagined conversations with people as a video game skill that I was leveling up. I legit had ASPD in high school but I wanted to be normal for college. It didn't take all that long to get decent enough at it, just practice. Honestly i recommend getting a job as a cashier or something so you are forced into meaningless polite conversations hundreds of times a day. "Did you hear about the weather today? I think they're really gonna go all the way..."
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>>382332414
>>382332441
The sad part is, it's not a 4chan/neet thing. Well, the lonely part maybe a little, but kids nowadays are so fucking clueless and entitled. Is a child's life so automated with the internet now that parenting is non-existent?

So many idiots out there, protesting things they know nothing about, wearing masks and being hypocrites for no reason. Society is in trouble, man.
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>>382332170
I've had a lot of bad experiences with people during highschool and university that ended making me scared of socializing.
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>>382331780
>but in the end you have yourself
jesus christ there's no outcome I would fucking hate more
I hate myself more than anything
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>>382318049
this doesn't really have much to do with video games
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>>382332710
Well there's your problem then, edgelord.

But by your language, you're not here to get help, so just stop posting and go cut yourself or something.
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The amount of narcissism in a post is easily detected by the amount of "I & Me" words in a post.

> I blablabla i blo-blo, me myself with bla, mine blo-blo, i think i bla to me
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>>382332065
Eh, that's just being introverted.
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>>382332651
>So many idiots out there, protesting things they know nothing about, wearing masks and being hypocrites for no reason. Society is in trouble, man.
Way to preach to choir bro, shits been like this for a long time. Internet has just made easier for opinions of all kinds to be seen, heard and reposted. The reality is great and I want to see it continue until it hits the point of total fucking collapse, just to see the cycle repeat. God bless us all.
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>>382332710
>being this edgy
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>>382331897
Did you ever have issues opening up? Not just for her, but in general. Does it ever feel difficult to simply start talking and have a conversation? How do you take your thoughts and experiences and express them so freely with a desire and passion?
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>>382320389
This triggers the christcucks.
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I have many steam friends but I haven't actually played a game with any of them in years.
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>>382333008
Those are very good questions anon sadly I'm not going to answer them because they are for her ears only, its the reason for why shes my girl. Because I love her and myself. Thats all that matters.
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Pro tip to anyone out there, never trust a woman in business.
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>>382332706
I've had shit come my way too. Don't lay down waiting to die because you won't go anywhere with that attitude.

>>382332710
If you aren't willing to improve yourself, you are doomed. You'll end up using others as your cornerstone for happiness, and that's just asking to get fucked.
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>>382332648
well another big issue I didn't mention is my hatred of alcohol, which limits my socializing options severely because every motherfucker on the planet drinks in every social setting ever and not only do I not want to participate but being around that sober is no fun without even getting into my personal issues with it

when it comes to talking to people I can handle it but breaking the ice feels so fucking awkward to me, and I hate small talk with a passion
having no real activities or interests to discuss also leaves me with no options to expand the conversation, and most of the time I don't give a shit about whatever they're talking about
I just don't know how to start talking with someone out of nowhere and not have it be fucking weird somehow
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>>382333245
That's wonderful, godspeed you glorious bastard
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>>382333245
Do you have a Skype or discord or something? Xbox?
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>>382332710
The funniest thing is if people in your life did actively care about your well being you would, most likely, push them away. You probably already did.

Why do hate yourself? What grand expectation did you have? How many illusions about yourself did you create? And the best part of it all is that you're already the person that you think you want to be. You're literally feeling sorry for yourself while chasing your own imagination.
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>>382333503
>If you aren't willing to improve yourself, you are doomed. You'll end up using others as your cornerstone for happiness, and that's just asking to get fucked.
I know all this already anon. There's a reason I've been so fucked up for such a long time now.
I know exactly where the path I'm walking down leads, but I don't have it in me to stop or change direction
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>>382330743
Just super autistic
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>>382331863
A simple hello how are you? Is enough to start a conversation.
At school were your parents always told
>Anon doesn't play well with others
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>>382320389
How can you not find meaning in that?
We are machines that have developed to get the most entropy out of a system. That's our function. Getting the best and most chemicals in the brain is part of our function.
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>>382325206
>mad protestard applying dogmatic sentiments to scientific process in a misguided, desperate attempt to disqualify it
Science didn't figure out everything yet, might never will, and that is okay. You can't pray a rocket into space.

go ahead, hex me fucker
protestants are the bronies of religion
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Hey Anon
Want a hug? from a spic
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>>382333683
>>382333595
Please tell me that you are not actually encouraging that kind of behavior right? Because that would be morally wrong in every sense since he is clearly mentally ill to be thinking this "girl" is real.
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>>382333498
>get to talk with old qt friends after years
>they are working and shit
>complete bitches, decided to give rhem a chance anyways
>two thought i was desperate and retarded and deleted me from their friends list
>the other used me as her hugbox for a while until she got a boyfriend

i really hate this.
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>>382322217
>He has an imaginary friend
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As a 25 year old who has never been in a relationship, how do I get a girlfriend?
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>>382329278
Check out Dominions 4 lad, the learning curve was too much of a bitch for me but the community over at /vg/ is pretty fuckin top tier.
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>>382330292
>Thats terrible advice, if you wanna talk to someone you don't until they talk to you.
How to get unfriended 101
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>>382333701
what kind of answer do you want from me
the only person I've been truly honest with how fucked up I am is my dad, but he can't help me out of it since he's in a similar situation but near retirement age
I didn't become a mopey emo fuck around my friends, I know better than to dump my emotional baggage on them and I'm way too ashamed about it all to even think about it anyway
not like I even had the chance before they shut me out entirely
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>only play single player games
>0 friends on steam
>never tell my irl friends my steam name and just play local mp at a friend's place every now and again
I'm as happy as one can be 2bh
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>>382334212
imagine..
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>>382334304
you might as just kys at this point senpai, your beyond help.
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>>382333517
Its called "small" talk for a reason. If you're at a fightan tournament, literally say "boy X character sure is Y". Otherwise, you can literally say "crazy whether we're having isn't it". Small talk is so meaninglessness that you can literally say things that are THAT stereotypical because the point isn't to have a conversation about the weather. the point is to start the process of talking so that you can have a real conversation

"this rain has been crazy"
"yeah I haven't been able to go out running all this week"
"oh you like to run? where do you run at"
"oh this park"
"oh i know where that park is, i play frisbee there"
"omg i love frisbee"

see what i mean?


all you want to do with small talk is mention some mutual experience or observation. If you're at a fightan tourney, then everyone there is going to be familiar with the game. If you're on planet earth, everyone will be affected by the weather.
and idk what your issues with alcohol are. honestly you sound like one of those straight edge "i will not allow myself any fun" types, but i don't want to assume. I have a scar on my face from chugging gin so I'm really not judging you lol. But honestly no one cares if you don't drink. Once you get your license you can be the DD and everyone will love you for it.

"I don't drink so i cant socialize" honestly just sounds like an excuse bro.
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>>382334220
go to company after-work events
just start talking with people there
doesn't work if it's a software dev company where the only female is the secretary
doesn't work if you're a NEET
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>>382334616
I'm a NEET with a computer engineering degree looking for work...
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>>382334669
not like its going to matter anyway since you will kys eventually.
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>>382334669
>computer engineering
you fucked up already.
try to do freelance for a while.
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>>382334415
my mother was an abusive alcoholic and is half the reason I'm in such a shitty state to begin with
it's not just that I don't want to drink, I don't like being around it period, especially if I'm the only sober one around a bunch of drunks having a good time
it just makes me angry and sad and the fact it's almost always inescapable sucks the life out of me
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>>382334806
why are still here? hasn't the abuse from fellow anons been enough to drive you to suicide?
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>>382334669
write a full cover letter
change the "I know this that and the other technology" paragraph to fit the company based on the job posting details
write back in 2-4 weeks if no response stating that you are still interested in the position
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>>382334873
you don't know what real abuse is
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>>382334415
This entire example made me cringe so much. It's like a dialogue between 2 mentally disabled people. Normal folk start small talk to get a maximum amount of information in smallest time possible. Usually local news or insider information concerning someone's profession or hobby. A chance to learn something new in 2 minutes, not to mention talk about your ass pain or someone's love of cucumbers.
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>>382334059
What makes you think that?
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>>382335031
O-Ok I'll try this anon. Thanks.
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>>382334304
>I know better than to dump my emotional baggage on them and I'm way too ashamed about it all to even think about it anyway

Thats your problem. I bet you never ever made an emotional connection with any of your friends. Sometimes sharing bad shit with each other strengthens the relationship, it's actually necessary to form a strong friendship.
Don't dump all the bad shit at once, but it's ok to mention that you are unhappy with 'x' thing in your life and ask them for advice, just make sure to ask them if they are doing good. Ask what their plans are to fix shit in their life, give them advice, and receive advice.

Me and my mates sometimes end up at 6am drinking spirits and talking shit through and re-enforcing each other. Just because you are a man doesn't mean you are destined to suffer alone. Forget societies expectations and do what you need to be happy. It sucks being a man, that's why we have higher rates of suicide. Abandon the expectations of manliness, tell your friends you love them when you have the chance. Just don't do it all the fucking time.
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>>382329301
How am I clingy if I did not know he blocked me for years? We barely talked in the last few years.
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thred ded
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>>382334012
That way you should idolize cockroaches, strains of the flu virus and rats instead, they're our superiors in that regard.
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your all faggots
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>>382334415

That is legitimately the worst thing. I can pass for normie for a while but I will at some point pass from small talk into showing my power level on a topic because I'm not aware that I'm going too high power level. Then the person stops talking and I realize.
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>>382332808
Nothing wrong with narcissism lad.
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