Best in the series if you're an autist who thinks dice roll

them trippy alien aesthetics tho

>>382244634
Let me guess... Oblividiot?

>>382244634
But muh atmospheer

>>382244634
It's best in the series because everything else in the series is irredeemable rubbish.

>>382244634
epic xD

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>>382244634

Morrowind - Here's this strange, alien world

Oblivion - Here's Patrick Stewart

Skyrim - Here's a wyvern, half a story, and a simulation of the experience of slowly dying of syphilis

>>382244634
The dice roll combat is just as straight forward and mundane as the combat in Oblivion. Honestly, you're a little slow if you have issues with it.

OP if you want to make a Morrowind thread just make one, there's no need to shitpost

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>>382244634

Is combat that bad?

Thinking about getting morrowind from the steam sale.

I want a sense of exploration and wonder and have fun at the same time

It's either morrowind or oblivion. And I intend on modding the fuck out of either of them if that makes a difference

>>382244634
Instead of making a new thread ill use this, is there a basic set of mods if I want to play morrowind now?

I played it without any expansions when it came out for a couple hundred hours, but never actually finished the main story. And there s literaly nothing that looks interesting this year, so I want to play it again.

I dont want massive overhaul or addons, just improved visuals, and small gameplay tweaks maybe.

Im thinking better bodies/heads, along with the graphics extended is the basics if there isnt a standard /v/ pack.

>>382247549
when you start out with low skills, against the weakest enemy there is, its
>Swing, miss * 3
>Swing,hit
>Swing, miss*7
>Swing, hit
>Swing, miss*3
>Swing, hit
>enemy dies

you get used to it, and its not a problem once you leveled up a bit after about 20h, but there are mods to change it if you dont like it by increasing hit change and decreasing damage done.

>>382247708
The best thing you can do for your quality of life is OpenMW. It replaces the engine and dramatically improves performance and reliability

>>382247549
you're probably a numale /v/edditor so you'll hate it after 10 minutes then come make a thread like this

>>382248035
Thanks, didnt know about that

>>382247549
>want to use a weapon
>pick it as a primary skill
>hit 1:3 even at early levels
>get even better aim if you hold for a power attack
Wow morrowind is so hard! Don't listen to the mentally challenged people who complain about missing while having lvl 5 on all their weapon skills.

>>382249029
Its not about it being hard, its about it being annoying. (Its not that annoying and people complying about it are retarded, but it is more annoying that attacking should be)

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>>382247549
>Is combat that bad?
Yes.

Consolepleb here. Going to play this for the first time so what mods should I use?

>>382246945
This is the perfect tl;dr of the entire TES 3D franchise.

>>382249235
It doesn't even take long to get consistent aim. Of course missing 1:20 is going to be annoying when you don't even bother learning the basic fucking mechanics of the game. All people literally have to do is pick the goddam Weapon Skill as a Primary Skill.

>>382248035
it's also unfinished and incompatible with tons of shit

Morrowind Code Patch, MGEXE, and Patch Project are all you need. Add Races Redone and Animation Compilation/Pack if you want better looking characters

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>>382249391
only mods from the creation club

>>382249306
>0 AGL.webm
Someone recorded their own incompetence, lel.

>>382249391
>for the first time
Literally none. Play the game the way it was released, and see it with that in mind. Enjoy it for what it is first, then mod the shit out of it and see what a love of the game can do.

Daily reminder this came out the same year as Morrowind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY-lrCAH_1Y&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raW0hdlcgEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgyHpqqtctg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKPBvXPg2bU

>>382249029
Half of Morrowind's problem is people's inability to build functional characters. Or not choosing gear that obviously complements their skill choices. You sadly cannot cure idiocy.

Did you guys play the pre-morrowind games? I tried playing an older one, but couldnt even get out of the first prison/dungeon. I get to a bat or something, try and hit it, it tells me I need silver, but there is no fucking silver anything before that point, then I die.

>>382249907
and it somehow manages to look even worse and more clunky

visual diarrhea kraut shill game

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>>382249306
>0 fatigue
>no skill in blunt weapon

Nice try faggot

>>382249954
Daggerfall is just fine, Arena is alright but not on the same scope as Daggerfall. played through both a few weeks ago and found them enjoyable

>>382249907
Is that a Gothic? I remember getting a pirated gothic about the same time as morrowind, but never getting it to work. Which one is this?

Dice roll combat is amazing though.

I unironically think Morrowind has the best combat system in the series.

The other point is fair though. For all its faults Oblivion moving NPCs around in some semblance of a daily routine was a step forward for the series.

>>382244634
It was a different time back then.
the axiom "Babbys first TES" is true.
Even with this stinker.

>start Morrowind
>first quest
>"kill dem rats"
>WOW GREAT QUEST !!!111
>find a bow
>let's do this
>aim at the rat at 50 cm
>miss
>miss
>miss
>uninstall

>>382250075
Man you held a button. That's such great combat.

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>>382249391
Morrowind Code Patch (fixes game engine bugs)
Delayed DB Attacks (fixes Tribunal expansion for new characters)
Solstheim Rumor Fix (fixes Bloodmoon expansion for new characters)
(Optional) MGE XE if you want to increase the view distance, FOV (for widescreen resolutions) and add more graphical effects through shaders.

Finally, this mod that makes it so stationary NPCs don't slowly slide away over dozens of hours until they potentially fall off the world:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ohho4g5335itc6/IdleAnimationsFix.zip

Other than that, >>382249898 is right. Stick to bugfixes but keep the gameplay and content the same for your first playthrough. It's a great game and doesn't need massive overhauls to be playable, unlike some others.

>>382250235
It does have the best combat mechanically, all it needs is better animations

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>>382250326
>It does have the best combat mechanically
That would be Gothic II.

>>382244634
"Morrowind is a bad game"
*mic drop* OHHH OHOHH OHHHHH
op is the farthest thing from a faggot today, he proved his spirituality and courage in leagues

>>382247549
modding morrowind is easier, and there is more mods, so there is that.

>>382249954
I tried playing daggerfall, i looked up a guide on how to make a really powerful character and got thru the first dungion. I joined the fighters guild and did a quest for them.

I put it away with the intention of playing it again, then i never played it again.

>>382250309
(you)

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>>382247549
It's not bad, but it's nothing special either. It's just standard RPG dice roll combat.

>>382250414
feel free to kill yourself any time Hans. you're so fucking irrelevant it's embarrassing me. go con more people into buying your trash in the summer sale

>>382249898
It needs some graphics mods though

>>382250310
Thanks for the (You), your post is far superior to mine. Of course, the fucking patches and expansion retimers! I had forgotten.

>>382250569
it doesn't at all unless you were born after the year 2000

>>382250516
>Too casual for Gothic
>Thinks Morrowind is the best RPG ever
Have a (You) for making me laugh.

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>>382249306
>>382250075
Do we have to go through this every time?

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>>382249954
Daggerfall is comfy as fuck. For an old ass game it's got pretty damn good variety in provinces to live in. I wish they'd remake the game since it has so many neat features and things to do.

>>382250414
That looks like complete garbage mate, Severance shits on that combat without even trying

>>382250619
as if Gothic games are remotely difficult. you really are delusional

Only numales think Morrowind is the best Elder Scrolls game.

>>382250309
>you press buttons
Wow, every video game in existence.

>>382250569
Morrowind doesn't need graphics mods. Some extra 2 or 3 cells of draw distance is enough. What the game really need is better animations.

>>382250675
Rolling for first serious run in my fucking life.

I wish i could finish it this time.

>>382250648
Welcome to 4chan

>>382250675
Bring me great fortune, Azura!

>>382250721
Gothic is much harder than Morrowind and has a much better and more satisfying sense of progression, you are also always in complete control of your sword when playing Gothic.
It remains the standard for RPG combat, something Bethesda doesn't seem to get as they keep dumbing down everything.

>>382249306
At this point, we know it's Numalewind cucks false-flagging so they can get a circlejerk for their shitty lifeless game going.

>>382247549
Yes. Neckbeerds might rally to defend it for whatever insane reasons, but Morrowind's combat combines the worst aspects of ARPGs and more traditional p&p games without bringing anything good into the mix. It gets 'better' once your weapon skill rises enough that you simply ignore the dice roll, because that happens, but your only reward for it is that the more challenging fights boil down to standing in place and clicking LMB for ten minutes as you slowly stagger the 10,000,000 hit point asshole to death. Combat is a gigantic minus for this game and it only gets a pass because there are so many ways to trivialize it.

>>382250235
The real cool shit in Morrowind's combat was the magic system. You could pull off crazy sequences of spells to cast one beefed up super spell.

>>382250326
That really applies to the game as a whole

It's truly a shame that as animations and visual quality for the series have been improving the underlying RPG mechanics have been getting hollower and hollower.

The best example I can think of for this is the way that booze works in Morrowind when compared to Skyrim. In Morrowind drinking some type of alcohol has short effect on your stats (usually a bonus to strength and a malus to some other). This can be handy in a variety of situations. In combat the added strength can allow you to deal more damage to a tough enemy. In adventuring, this can allow you to carry more for a short period of time. Useful if you find yourself over encumbered.

In Skyrim drinking alcohol grants you a meager amount of stamina, and a penalty to stamina regen.

>>382250852
What's a numale cuck?

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>>382250075
I'm sorry, but your webm is very clearly modified in some way. I did the math and with those skill levels you will miss about 89% of your swings.

>>382251026
People who unironically think Morrowind is better than Gothic II, it's synonymous with /v/edditor.

>>382247549
No, it's not that bad. Literal children were able to play it back in the day, so it's not too complicated. Just pick a type of weapon you want to use, choose the respective skill, and stick with that weapon type.

If you don't like combat that is essentially a math equation with some variables, you don't like rpgs. And that may mean you don't like something popular, like Morrowind. You'll just have to deal with it.

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>>382250414
>>382250619

>hey play our game where you play as normalfaggot mcgoatee, you can only change his equiptment but he is super badass we promise, our slow clunky game is better than any other rpg out there, we promise!

your game is literally an none fun version of fable

>>382250648
none of nu/v/edditors haven't even played the game anyways. may as well ignore them

>>382250851
ok but where does your statement say that it's hard and that i'm a casual for thinking it's not hard? the standard for actual RPG combat is still absolute zero. all it takes is learning the shit controls and you'll never have an issue in Gothic again

>>382250878
>standing in place and clicking LMB for ten minutes as you slowly stagger the 10,000,000 hit point asshole to death.
Played the game for hundreds of hours and never experienced this.

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>>382250309
Morrowind's biggest obstacle is the fact it presents itself as an action game when it really isn't. It's just the presentation, game is a rolls-driven RPG through and through.

>>382244634
I can accept that people don't like the game cause it's their personal preference. But that's an opinion.

Morrowind is objectively one of, if not, THE best games of all time. Your opinion might not be that you don't like it. But an opinion doesn't change a fact.

>>382250675
You know what my favorite thing about Daggerfall is? (I could never actually get into the game, sadly)

Those sexy fucking character models. Even pixelated as hell- they look great.

>>382250851
It can't be a standard if nobody really cares.

Also whose idea was to force a douchebag-looking mofo with a bored voice actor as the MC for every game.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5KML-sO4A

>>382249898
>>382250310
I was under the impression of not playing Bethesda games without mods but alright then

>>382251101
gothic 2 doesn't even compare. the narrative and lore is way better in morrowind

>>382244634
Morrowind had the best world + lore + atmosphere but the worst mechanics in the series

>>382247708
Fair Magicka Regen

>inb4 atranoch birthsign exploit
Bite me. Magic should regenerate like fatigue.

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>>382251101
Morrowind and Gothic are two sides of the same coin, anon. Different takes on the formula with vastly different priorities.

>>382251236
Grinding alchemy in Balmora doesn't really count as playing.

>>382251157
>learning the shit controls
The controls are perfect and accurately reflect what someone who has never wielded a sword would handle combat like and as you level up you progressively become more efficient.
It's a game made for those who want an expertly rafted RPG in both world and combat.

I suggest you watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

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>>382250851
lol in complete control of your sword.
your character gets stuck in the horrendus start lag/end lag of every attack, your character, who is picked for you btw moves slower and never gets to gradually move faster due to experience in traveling and staying /fit/


absolute trash of a game, its never gonna get picked up again by any businesses either, we all know it's boring cliche shit dude, we have seen your "hero with a sword" a thousand times over, fuck off.

>>382251492
Enjoy enemy spellcasters eternally flinging shit at you.

>>382251516
Was this made by someone who doesn't know you can fast travel to any city, village or shrine/temple?

>>382251492
But that makes magik potions irrelevant.

>>382251385
>worst mechanics
so just the melee combat then? it does everything else infinitely better than its sequels

>>382251631
are you dense? i've already played the fucking games, both 1 and 2 along with NotR. i said they're not difficult, not that i haven't played them. nor did i even say they're bad games. just that Gothic being the "standard for rpg combat" means quite literally fucking nothing

>>382250878
Are you sure you aren't thinking of Oblivion? Because that sounds an awful lot like Oblivion. The only fight that might take 10 minutes in Morrowind is Gaenor because he's a fucking gag fight with an insane dodge chance. Morrowind has the quickest fights in the series by far at normal (non-fortified or exploited) high skill levels.

>>382251791
some people dont like fast travel, but yes, you can fast travel in both games if you want.

Daggerfall is better

>>382251660
>absolute trash of a game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

>>382251631
Man, you are so right, and Gothic isn't popular because of jewish black magic, not because it was ass to play with plot straight out of warcraft 2.

>>382250309
Why don't you just come out and admit you hate RPGs faggot

Objective scale of TES games
Morrowind > Daggerfall > Oblivion > Skyrim > Arena

>>382251236
People are so retarded I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to chop fully armored people with a dagger as an altmer wizard or something

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>>382251912
There's Gaenor and that bugged Lich in the Mournhold sewers that has its health scaled by 800 times your level.

>>382244634
>NPC's doing nothing

Oh did you just completely immerse yourself in Oblivion's RADIANT AI? It was like a living breathing world!

Did it blow your mind in skyrim when the smith talked to you AND forged at the SAME TIME!?

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>>382251947
>here i cant argue ill post a video of someone calling a game i like good!

can you try again sweetie?

>>382251794
Not at all. I used the pretty regularly during combat.

>>382251929
"They hated Jesus because he told them the truth"

>>382252052
Why regurgitate what's already been eloquently stated in a video, the one without argument is (You).

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>>382252016
Swap Skyrim and Oblivion, and you are good.

>>382250878
>Combat is a gigantic minus

So, TES in general

>>382247549
Play it smart and combat is fine, if dull. Put effort into beefing up stats related to what you want to be good at and you will be rewarded. If you want to hit things with big swords, put some work into longswords, if you want to cast better and better fireballs, buff up your destruction, etc.

>>382246945
someone email Todd, he'll finally understand his games

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>TFW you realize Gothic II was the peak of the genre

>>382252016
>Morrowind > Daggerfall
t. Numale

>>382252016
Daggerfall would need a remake then maybe it'd be in there.

I play a handful of DOS games here and there, but daggerfall is beyond out dated. I understand at the time it was hot shit, but no one who has experienced true 3D elder scrolls before daggerfall would prefer daggerfall. Huge, empty, bland. There's some cool as shit here and there but its too much copy and paste of bland assets.

Morrowind however I can easily see people hating at first but slowly growing to love more than Oblivion or even Skyrim. Morrowind is Gothic tier world on a bigger scale.

>>382247549
How combat in morrowind works:

If you are low level in your weapon skill, you will probably miss.
If you have low stamina, you have a greater chance of missing.
Every swing lowers your stamina, but then it slowly regenerates.
If you attack with low skill and no stamina, you will never hit.

By the time you are 1/3rd of the way through the game you'll be hitting 90% of the time. Combat is absolutely dull, make no mistake, but it's no issue because it's not what the game is about or why people enjoy it.

Morrowind is unironically a hiking and exploration sim, and if you play it, you should dive in, not knowing anything about the setting or plot or story or culture and just start learning. Morrowind's greatest strength is how it lets you explore.

>>382246945

Yep

Knights of the Nine was decent, though

>>382252379
Daggerfall is one of the most dated games in existence, try harder.

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>>382252165
This.

>>382251492
>using Fair Magicka Regen
>not just making a debufINT+buffMAGICK spell combo

>>382250878
>>382251912
Actually, scratch that, I just realized that you might be talking about hand-to-hand combat. In that case you'd be right because it's a totally different playstyle than armed combat in Morrowind where your attacks wear down their fatigue instead of health until they pass out, after which your fists begin to damage their health. There are some creatures in Morrowind like Skeletons with an abnormally high fatigue that could take a very long time to fight through this method, and before you reach very high (70+) skill levels even weaker enemies will take a while. Doing fun stuff like damaging their strength to make their fatigue drain faster due to encumbrance or paralyzing them to make your attacks cause health damage can make that more bearable. On the other hand, like you said, it's still an effective but often boring combat skill because damaging their fatigue and staggering with every hit means they are basically permanently stunlocked for the duration.

>>382252485
>it's old so it's bad
Rofful.

>>382252667
Fallout 1 and 2, Arcanum, Planescape: Torment are all old but still are good times played today.

Daggerfall is like having teeth pulled without novocaine.

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>>382252346
That looks terrible

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>>382252162
Because I would have to either respond to that video or take every nitbit of that video and then post my counter arguements here to you.
I don't feel like doing that, I played gothic 2 and its engine is slow, it lacks actual freedom to do as you want when I hear scrubs try to talk up this shit game like its worth buying, it triggers me because you actually get people like myself to go out and buy your trash game, only to waste their money which would have been put towards better use on a fucking soda btw on this garbage low tech game that runs like piss and has barely any actually variety of builds, if you want to bark and brag about your game, go tell witcher fans that your game is better than theirs, cause you might actually win the best "rpg" where you play a john doe, but you don't win the award for being the best rpg, that belongs to actual rpgs.

I see no ones mentioned TESO.

no one likes it? I played it just after release and it was shit, but with all the patches, and now morrowind added, is it better?

>>382244634

a great atmosphere alone can make a game.

Morrowind had that and more.

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>>382250851
Gothic 2 has an awful combat and awful controls. Morrowind combat is stat based and it controls well and responds correctly. Gothic 2 tried to go the action route and completely failed with a clunky buggy combat that couldn't rival the games of its time.

webm very related

No one even cares about gothic 2, you're so patheticly starved you need to ride morrowind's threads for attention kek

>>382252920
its trash, its full of pseudo freedom and it operates like a themepark

>>382252379
Daggerfall was good, don't get me wrong, but around 40% of skills were useless, quests were pretty shit for the most part, and the best part of the game was also frustrating as hell: the dungeons.
>>382252165
Skyrim did away with too many RPG mechanics in favor of more action, exploitable crafting and other gimmicks, and an attempt at making satisfying boss fights which end up being anticlimactic every time.

>>382252960
I really don't know what a refined version of morrowind's gameplay would be.

It's kind of like an interactive book. Like Myst but open world with a tacked on combat system.

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>>382253164
Skyrim is the true kino though, best locations of any game in the TES universe and it also fixed most of Oblivion's problems.

>>382252989
dude that combat looks so TwIsTeD n sIcK
i cant wait to use a sword

>>382244634
Morrowind has the best world though. Every Elder Scrolls has shit combat, do you actually consider Skyrim combat to be anything above passable?

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Why are morrowfags the easiest fag subspecies to trigger?

>>382253164
Which bethesda boss fights aren't anti climated anyway, it's always the same thing, if you wait too much before doing the main quest you're just a god and everything is anti climatic. That's what happens when you give too much freedom to players.

>>382253425
Insecure that Gothic I and II perfected open world before Morrowind existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

>People complaining about the combat system
I went days (real world days) playing morrowing without getting into any combat. Theres so much more to the game than hitting things. The combat system isnt the best, but its such a small part of the game that it alone cant ruin the game.

>>382252584
No, I was exaggerating but I am talking about armed combat. Whifflebatting might not be as obvious as it was in oblivion because vanilla spawn lists never really go into high levels, but it's still there and it literally cockslaps you in the face if you don't go into the expansions decked out in artifacts and optimized to the gills. For all of how horrible Oblivion was I could at least use the weakness stacking exploit to kill everything in three blows.

>Dark Messiah is £1.50 on Steam
>Is also, incidentally. a better game than Morrowind
Radicool.

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>>382253551
reposting that video again xD
>cmon guys listen to my opinions that i got from someone else!
not even beta, omega even!

>>382253425
idk do old overused memes on 4chan trigger you after a couple months?

>>382244634

rng systems are for people who cant make skill based games, literal artificial difficulty for hack devs

>>382246945
Spbp

>>382253818
Randomness is literally one of the basic components of game theory, retard.

>>382253803
If Morrowind had Dark Messiah's combat and customization it would be the best game ever made and that's a fact.

>>382253580
I enchanted a ring with constant invisibility.

>>382253803
Dark Messiah had some amazing elements that I wish caught on afterwards, it wasn't put together all that well, but still great.

>>382253962
No, because Dark Messiah's world actually felt real, even with its fantasy elements. Morrowind's world feels like a world in a game, with walking personality-less encyclopedias and poorly designed areas.

>>382253978
>a ring
how? I dont think that's possible. best you can do is enchant a full set of clothes with a total of 100% chameleon, or 100% evade.

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>>382253323
I'm glad you agree

>>382244634
Please, Gofich(yourself) and Yawnowind scubs - we all know the masterclass was Ultima VII.

>>382254245
Pardon me, I mean Ultima IX

>>382253312
>best locations of any game
I'll give it that, it does have some pretty memorable locations, but I also don't get the same sense of scale that I got from Vvardenfel. Solitude has what, 60 people max including guards. Morrowind has that in a single district in Vivec City.
>fixed most of Oblivion's problems.
It fixed some ridiculous scaling issues, but it only 'fixed' Oblivion's combat issues by making you a damage sponge and enemies die quickly and having some shit percentage changing meter. Dual wielding was neat but pretty garbage. Stealth was even more broken and powerful. Magic got gimped with the removal of spell crafting. Enchanting got gimped. It has a slew of it's own problems too.
>>382253467
I was mostly referring to dragons and how easily they die. Miraak was actually pretty good if we count Dragonborn.
I had a difficult time fighting Dagoth Ur my first time around and the epilogue was great.

>>382250414
Do you fucks do anything at all, any day of the week?

How did we go from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e7qP7YHBcg

to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt9qyMJM_ck

>>382254213
>just the same three moves over and over again
>no enemies ever use any type of gap closer

woah looks pretty intense man

>>382251794
magicka potions are tedious and weight a fuck load for a no str mage. The max magicka for high elf/atronach should be 750+

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>>382251492
You know, a better vanilla method if you want to avoid resting is Mark -> Divine Intervention -> Recall. Atronachs can restore their magicka with the "Restore Attributes" blessing at the shrine for a small donation (or free if you're Cult member of sufficient rank) and get right back into the action. It's hard to call this an exploit and frankly it makes sense as the kind of thing a wizard would do with their teleportation spells. If your skills levels are low or you don't want to worry about having to keep your magicka high enough for the first cast you can keep a few scrolls or potions for mark and divine intervention as well.

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>>382254691
>reeee pls agree with me /v/
>tell me im right for liking gothic pleaseeeee
again, why are you trying so hard to compare it to morrowind? you should be comparing it to more linear titles like witcher and fable and kotor

did your dad like rape your butthole when you were small while he left morrowind up in the other room, so he could drown your cries for help in cliffracer screeches?

>>382255271
>Gothic
>Linear
Figures a Morrowcuck hasn't even played the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

>>382254691
Gothic 2: Sidestep and wail on a bulletsponge for ten minutes

Morrowind: Clever strategizing around a magic user's summons, dodging his magical attacks, and then killing him with a couple quick blows once you're past his defenses, coming out the end barely alive.

Yeah, morrowind's a step up I'd say.

>>382254867
That's funny because literally none of that actually happens in the webm, the fire skelly even jump forward two times after a backdash

but hey, at least you tried

>>382255354

the third time he has posted the very same video
like i keep saying you cant even make your own hero, he is voiced and has a written personality. that is linear.

>>382255405
yeah a 2 inch jump foward, whilst the main character is hilariously attempting stupid spinning backstrokes over and over again. that isnt difficulty anon
that game plays like shit

>>382247996
So don't start out with low skills

>>382244634
An awful troll thread ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

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>>382255664
Your experience with the world and you how interact with the game is not linear at all though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

>>382255664
>attempting stupid spinning backstrokes over and over again

Are you blind or retarded or both? He does only one single spinning strike at the end of a combo. And why are even talking about difficulty?

Are you having a stroke or something?

>>382254691
man Gothic looks so bad, even with dx11. worst use of art assets i've ever seen

>>382254896
I don't know if you've modded it (I think the Code Patch has an option to rebalance which affects potion weight) but in the vanilla game magicka potions are very light if you use the right ingredients. Comberry + Frost or Void salts give you the lightest potion that can ever exist at 0.1 weight. The last time I remember playing a mage I had pretty average stats: a combination of Journeyman and Master's alchemy tools, 50-ish Alchemy skill, and 70-ish Intelligence and my potions would restore almost 250 magicka over their duration. So if you were to carry just 20 of them for a combined total weight of 2.0, that's 5,000 magicka worth of potions which ought to be more than enough for any adventure.

If you choose to buy them instead of make them yourself, the potions that weigh 0.2 restore 200 magicka, still not a bad weight/magicka tradeoff. The alchemist in Tel Mora sells an unlimited supply of them.

Does player's race in Morrowind alter anything when it comes to NPCs, quests and such? So if I were an argonian, would some NPCs tell me to fuck off and not give the quest?

>>382256745

Determines your starting standing with NPCs if I recall correctly, but you won't be turned away due to prejudice or anything like that.

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>>382256162

i got it confused with the other video of the other guy with a sword doing the exact same thing it all looks like the same shitty thing to me and all sword strikes are these fidgety lightning fast tweaker twitches


>>382256029
>you just have to look at the game like im looking at it anon

got anything else to say? like some actualy points instead of some vagueness?

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If morrowind, oblivion, and skyrim were forks.
Morrowind would be an old clunky fork.
Oblivion would be a broken fork that falls apart more and more as you eat.
Skyrim would be a spoon.
Here's the order in which I would choose these utensils to eat.
Morrowind>Skyrim>Oblivion

>>382256745
Being the same race as an NPC gives you a +5 base disposition bonus. Because of the way disposition, aggression, and the quest dialogue systems work this COULD potentially be enough to make the difference in whether an NPC attacks you on sight or whether they tell you to fuck off instead of advance the quest, but the bonus is small enough where that is a rare case, as their disposition would need to be within 5 of that threshold to begin with based on your personality and faction memberships. When it comes to situations like that a small charm spell, some persuasion, bribery, or drinking some Telvanni Bug Musk or other Fortify Personality source will be enough to solve anything regardless of race.

>So if I were an argonian, would some NPCs tell me to fuck off and not give the quest?
There's actually only one instance I know of off the top of my head where race affects a quest, and just as you say it has to do with being an Argonian. I forget the details but there was some escaped slave or something that someone is hunting, and his name is supposedly some gibberish. He has an argonian guide helping him with one of those those stupid argonian names like runs-with-scissors, but if you're an Argonian yourself the quest update in your journal actually has you realize that the runs-with-scissors name is a direct translation of the name of the argonian being hunted, giving you the opportunity to sell out his guide without having to figure it out by asking around or whatever you were supposed to do normally.

Sex seems to more commonly affect quests than race since there's that one romantic bandit that will only attack you if you're male and there's some Telvanni councilor that hates men as well.

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>>382256029
Hah, five times.

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can i still get an answer as to why gothicfags have to compare their game to morrowind and no other game?
Are you guys just that much of a hivemind that you cant say anything beyond what the herd says in every previous thread?

>>382257048
Maybe you should play the game.

>>382257569
>gothicfags
>s
it's literally one person. go ahead and search "Gothic" in the archives. every post and thread about Gothic games are by the same op and poster using the same images

>that samefag gothic shill
>post to poster ratio

pathetic

>>382257048
Hey, at least you admit being a retard, that's the first step.

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>>382257631
I did, i didn't like its bad engine or its bad character design.

got anything else to say?

>>382257569
Because this board forces Morrowind being the best RPG, when Gothic outclasses it in every way.

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It's good to be king

>>382256745
>>382257534
Oh yeah, and don't forget to sheath your weapon when approaching and talking to NPCs. Keeping it out gives you a -5 penalty which would negate the same-race bonus anyway. A lot of players end up wasting money bribing or fuck up failing speechcraft checks without realizing they were already well-liked enough to get whatever information or object they needed if they had just put their damn axe away.

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>>382258062
Sure is.

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>>382244634
Or you played it back in the day where there weren't a better system in place like most of us

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>>382257743
When did I do that?

>>382257703
>>382257689
lol seriously?
Why would anyone ever be this pathetic to just go out every day online and try to convince a social community to like the exact same thing as him. you figure if you really like a game, you would either enjoy playing it or enjoy talking about it with other people who like it, not trying to yell at people with opposite opinions, i wouldn't go to a chocolate store and bash everyone their for not liking salsa. I really don't want to believe this is true, that means the world is even more sad than i thought
if it is really just one guy god probably laughs at him constantly.
>>382258024
says the one and only gothic poster on /v/ for the 1134255636246th time

>>382257689
Yep. Same filenames too and same exact copy-pasted replies every time.

However, he doesn't ONLY compare it to Morrowind. Sometimes he invades TW3 and BotW threads too.

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>>382258345
>Yep. Same filenames too and same exact copy-pasted replies every time.
Huh, now that I think about it. Having a conversation with Gothicfag is exactly like having a conversation with a Morrowind NPC.

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>>382258531

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>>382258345
>Witcher 3
>Good
Don't make me laugh.

If you never played Morrowind before, you're probably not going to like it. It is going to feel very clunky and it's going to look like garbage. The combat system fucking sucks if you've played other TES games. If you played it before Oblivion came out, then you loved the game. The things that made it great was the exploration aspect of it. You were in an alien world with tons of spooky shit to explore. The magic system was awesome, being able to enchant your weapons and create custom spells. You could make an axe with a levitation enchant if you wanted. Future games added a lot of cool features, but they also took out a lot of the fun stuff too. Yeah, zoom with a bow is pretty cool, and so is duel wielding. NPCs having a schedule is nice. But I feel it fucked up magic and the leveling system. It took away the magic of what made Morrowind great by adding better combat features and graphics.

>>382258345
wow i thought my life sukked i would really hate to have a life like that.

if that anon is reading this maybe you should just enjoy your game what other people think of your bad game shouldn't effect the enjoyment you get from your bad game

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>>382249954
Redguard is the best game in the series. Say something nice about best girl.

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>>382258590
he literally has an entire folder of "gothic is better than x" photos that he proudly brandishes on his desktop, knowing full well that most plebs wouldn't consider it jackoff material, like himself.

do yourself a favor and stop posting, people are starting to laugh.

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>>382259062

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>>382244634
It's actually so good that it keeps /v/ clinging to TES despite being so eager to shit on it at every opportunity.

>>382259237
Not an argument just means that you have nothing else to say

Really? but you are so smart and your opinion is so respected here!
Please gothicanon, please tell us about what other games gothic is better than! :))))

>>382258024

Nigga I ain't even played Gothic and only started morrowind but you can't honestly expect me to believe that gothic 2's combat as shown in >>382254691 is any better then morrowind's.

>>382259650
well its just better than every other game out there, i dont even need to say anything else, have you even seen how cool his goatee and sword is?

>>382259328
good point

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Morrowind > ESO > Oblivion > Skyrim

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>>382244634

>>382247708

Test

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>>382252038
I've got 99 problems and a Lich is one

>>382258620
>hating it for the combat

But every tes game has shit combat mechanics, to the point where Skyrim decided adding forced kill animations would improve gameplay. They aren't heading in a more realistic combat direction, and the games are becoming more about decoration and asthetics, while keeping people with low attention spans interested. Any game where increasing difficulty is mainly achieved by adding health onto emenies isn't designed properly for combat.

Too bad the franchise became so popular. It's only going to get worse.

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>>382262123

Why do people defend Morrowind's fucking awful combat? It's a good game but the combat is easily the worst part about it.

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>>382262682
Does anyone know where this gif is from? I've been trying to find it but google searches only return reaction images.

>>382264129
>old rpg has old rpg combat
I wonder why

it's the world
that fucking alien world that sucks you in

tolkien fantasy BTFO

>>382264164
1 nanosecond on google tells me it's from Pink Floyd's The Wall

>>382264298
Yes and? Baldur's Gate and Fallout are old yet even those games have combat systems that don't kill my brain cells.

>used to defend morrowind combat
>play wizardry 8

wtf i hate elder scrolls combat now

>>382264164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS_FCbQ-okM

2:40

>>382246695
This guy remembers. Oblivion blew up with the kids on the 360. Now you have people who are nostalgic for a shitty action game with shallow rpg elements. It was the same deal as when Skyrim came out. People who weren't even fans of rpg loved it and the older fans just watched as the water down sequels were more successful which meant Bethesda will never go back. The elder scrolls will always be a dead series as long as the mouthbreathers prefer following a quest marker on their hud and level scaling so they won't be soft locked out of regions based on difficulty

>install mod that makes combat like Oblivion and all your hits connect
>realize agility is now useless
>easy to be overpowered in this game but getting all hits in from daedra is annoying
>remove mod and appreaciate vanilla combat

>>382264624
It's literally just DnD diceroll combat. I have no clue why you people have such a hard time with it.

>>382265387
Maybe it's because it's D&D combat stripped to it's absolute bare minimum. Baldur's Gate like I mentioned before is far more faithful to D&D combat.

>>382264164
>Average /v/ user so underage they don't who Pinky Floyd is
Jesus christ.

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>>382264881
Those Gerald Scarfe animations are great

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>>382262123
>keeniing

mah niggah

>>382266094
Maybe he has just never seen that particular music video.

>>382251353
Come back Tom...

https://youtu.be/Vp4-9G47uF0

Was he right?

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>>382268494
>5 hours
Holey moley

>>382268494
Yes

>>382268494
I keep seeing this in my suggestions.
When will it fuck off already?

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>>382268494
is the whole thing worth watching? Fuck..

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>>382269475
He has time stamps for specifics if you just want to watch specific topics, or if you're an ADD redditard you can skip to the very end where he sums up the previous five hours in a few minutes.

>>382268494
>five fucking hours!!
fuck it, I have guns to clean. I'm going in. See you in 5h to answer your question.

>>382269475
No, you could beat Morrowind without abusing glitches or exploits of any kind 40 times in the time it takes you to watch that video.

>>382269812
Why not do both at the same time?

>>382269812
And with exploits you could beat it 70 times.

>>382268494
Fuck it. I'm gonna watch the whole thing to have ammo for future TES flamewar threads.

>>382264624
Please don't put Fallout on the same tier as Baldur's Gate. I played Fallout 1 after Baldur's Gate and the combat mechanics, as well as every other aspect of story telling and gameplay felt to primitive in comparison. I have no idea why people suck FO1/2 off so much. 2 improved on combat slightly but it's still so backwards.

>>382244634
>best and most unique aesthetics
>more npcs than oblivion and skyrim combined
>best lore and writing
>better character customization
>traditional rpg

>bb-b-b-but I can't land anything because my weapon skill is 10
>no quest markers I have to read what are you autistic???
>where the fuck is caius cossades and balmora what the fuck I can't hit anything *dies*

I only have 2 combat skill on my toon, it's not that kind of game it's more in depth than skyrim where they got being a meathead nord down right though.

Why does everyone dislike Morrowind combat, it's not like Oblivion or Skyrims combat was complex. It's always just holding down left click, but in Morrowind you can lose if you aren't prepared.

>>382270170
They see an FPS with melee weapons, and when someone clues them in on the RPG engine under the hood, and realize they have to put some actual thought into the game beyond twitch reflexes and mopping drool off their controllers they get mad and blame the game.

Stand up, there you go. You were dreaming. What's your name?

Well, not even last night's storm could wake you. I heard them say we've reached Morrowind, I'm sure they'll let us go.

Quiet, here comes the guard.

Ohboyherewego.jpg

>>382268494
>4 minutes in
>pronounces "mitigated" as "MIGITated"

Dropped. This person has nothing intelligent to say.

>>382269601
>ADD redittard for not wanting to watch a 5 hour long spergout about a shitty game

>>382270102
Jesus
>best and most unique aesthetics
Brown flatland everywhere with the odd red retexture of water puddles and mushrooms littered all over the place?
>more npcs than oblivion and skyrim combined
>best lore and writing
Eh, no, it failed to innovate from Daggerfall in any way other than a few circlejerk tier gods (Tribunal). In fact, it was largely self-contained, it did almost nothing to contribute to lore outside of Morrowind.
>better character customization
Can't customise your face, some races are objectively inferior gameplay wise (Argonians) and some are almost entirely the same (Dark Elves, Imperials). Oblivion removed next to nothing build wise and improved on customisation
>traditional rpg
In what sense? It's not isometric or a DnD based dungeon crawler. It's a 3D, real-time open world game with dice-roll combat even though it's clearly not built for it.

>bb-b-b-but I can't land anything because my weapon skill is 10
To level up you need to advance skills, if you can't hit anything to advance the skill then it will remain that way
>no quest markers I have to read what are you autistic???
Which would be fine if the directions weren't either vague as fuck or completely wrong, which they are most of the time
>where the fuck is caius cossades and balmora what the fuck I can't hit anything *dies*
Speak for yourself, you can fuck off to the Dren Plantation or get Chrysamere almost immediately and the game is a cakewalk.
>on my toon
>toon
Kill yourself.

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>>382270370
That's it. Gotta do another run.

>>382270525
I'm at 15 and he's picking nits and talking about minutia. I don't think I'm going to make the full five.

those thing are perfectly ok because it's fucking rpg not an action game

>>382270706
>more npcs than oblivion and skyrim combined
Forgot to reply to this, it has more NPC's but 99.9% of them are copypasted and either are nothing but named bandits or generic NPC's who repeat the same recycled copy-pasted journal entries the other 99.9% of NPC's give you.

>>382270765
I'll see you at the corner club, anon.

Everything but the last 2 or 3 of every quest line sucks dick in Morrowind.
It's a game full of generic fetch quest bullshit.

Why do people say Morrowind is well written? Is it a joke?

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>>382270170
>in Morrowind you can lose if you aren't prepared
I like that. I kind of enjoyed when my character was a scrub that could [and would] get his ass kicked because he walked into the wrong bandit cave or summoner's den. Daedric shrines were scary because they tended to have the toughest enemies, and it felt like an accomplishment after beating them
I remember one quest where I had to deliver a cure to a Daedra worshiper. I wanted the stuff that was inside the shrine, but I just couldn't beat the people guarding it. So I used an amulet of invisibility, ran over to the table, grabbed all the scrolls and shit on it, and ALMSIVI'd out of there before they even landed a hit on me. That was fun, and I felt smart for doing it that way
It made me a little sad when I eventually leveled up enough that Dremora Lords and Golden Saints became toothless walking treasure boxes of loot

>>382270765
enjoy your spamming 1 magicka spells for 20 hours my dude

It's been years.
It's been years since I've been to /v/ and this thread hasn't changed at all aside from now having webms in it.
/v/ never changes.

>>382270102
>best Lore
Maybe just for Morrowind. The game itself utterly fucking ruined the Empire and the Imperial Cult beyond repair.

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What do you think?

>>382270998
No it's a fact.

>>382246152
obliviot*

you're welcome.

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>>382270674
>Oblivion
>Shitty game
Lol

>>382270170
people who bitch about morrowind's dice roll combat obviously didn't play much of it because you can get to a 100% hit rate pretty quick anyway. if it's that much of a struggle then you're doing something wrong.

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>>382271116

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can we all stop fighting just to enjoy the fact the gothic fag either killed himself or is off somewhere crying and jacking off.

>>382271405
>dude I'm so wacky lmao XD *holds spork*: the expansion

>>382270706
>>382270840

>thinks I meant the character editor

the world of Morrowind even with the graphical limitations are way better to explore than generic cyrodil and skyrim, Morrowind NPCs fill the world better than skyrim or oblivion npcs even if they do repeat a lot you can interact more than just a few recycled voice lines.

No reason to address your points that are just about hardware limitations because you can spend an hour downloading mods and make it look more stylistic than any modded skyrim or oblivion build.

>>382271417
Why are Numalewind fags too stupid to realise that the webm is just a false flag to get people to circlejerk their meme game?

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>>382271539
hey man the random meme may stink but that dlc has a gorgeous palette

>>382271148
No we used to actually shun Obliviots here. This current acceptance of them and even disliking Morrowind being the overwhelming majority opinion is pathetic.

>>382271606
What webm? Numidium? What are you even on about?

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The factions go a long way in making the world believable.

In Skyrim you basically get Imperials or Stormcloaks and then a bunch of minor guilds for specialties like magic, fighters, and thieves. It doesn't make much sense that just because people share a skillset their political viewpoints are always going to be aligned.

>>382271505
I like TES just fine but Gothic 2 is better than any TES

>>382271759
The one where the guy swings at a mudcrab and doesn't hit it. All they'd have to do is give context to make a far better point
>Game has atrocious walking speed
>Removed mounts in the transition from Daggerfall
>Both to make the game feel larger than it is
>Slowly make your way everywhere
>Have to run if you want to get anywhere in good time
>Running costs stamina
>End up in a battle against an enemy, but can't hit them because you ran because of how slow the walkspeed is

>>382271808
lol garbage bait

>>382271581
>the world of Morrowind even with the graphical limitations are way better to explore than generic cyrodil and skyrim,
Arguable with Cyrodiil, considering it was flat as hell most of the time, which is a trait Morrowind shared. Neither Vvardenfell or Cyrodiil have any mountain passages, extremely tall mountains or waterfall systems, infact, Red Mountain in Morrowind, despite being said to take up the entirety of the island, is short and tiny in terms of height and length.
>you can interact more than just a few recycled voice lines.
Nearly every Oblivion NPC has a service associated with them, assuming they aren't guards. It can be bartering, innkeeping or a quest (named or unmarked). Taking a stroll around Vivec, any NPC that isn't stationary is likely just a glorified signpost.
>No reason to address your points that are just about hardware limitations because you can spend an hour downloading mods and make it look more stylistic than any modded skyrim or oblivion build.
Skyrim, maybe, there's not that many huge mods for it. Oblivion, if you mod it correctly has Better Cities, Unique Landscapes and Maskars/Oscuro's Overhauls, all of which fix many of Oblivion's notable problems.

>>382251284
Morrowind never presents itself as an action game, retards just think real time = ARPG for some reason.

>>382271792
Telvanni fucking suck fuck them and fuck their zones

>>382272056
Why are you replying to me? I don't know about any webm. If you're slow then level up your strength and speed as well as athletics and acrobatics, you'll become several times faster than mounts make you in other TES games.

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>no secret sixth house remnants cult in skyrim or oblivion

>>382271203
first playthrough? if so then have fun!

if not then make sure that not all of the skills you want to actively use are major/minor skills. that way you can more easily obtain the perfect level up multiplier each time

>>382246152
>>382271220
Oblidiot, ya doofuses

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>>382272393
When the heart disappeared and Dagoth Ur died, they lost their connection to him. The Sleepers woke up and came to their senses. The Ash Vampires [and probably the rest of the named Dagoth priests] died. I'm not sure about the less-whole creatures like ash slaves and zombies, but they either died when Ur did, or were slain by the Ordinators and Buoyant Armigers
I get what you're saying, but it makes sense why they're never brought up in later games

how large would you say morrowind's map is?

and in comparision to oblivion?

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>>382272775
>All is silence. The road is straight, without turning, in darkness. Now let there be an end to all things.

Talking to dreamers after finishing the main quest always gets to me

>>382272775
There were still un-mindfucked descendants of house dagoth members among the surviving houses IIRC. I think a few were even featured as NPCs.

>>382272910
I think Oblivion is sligthly larger

Should I use the Madd Leveler mod?

>>382272910
Pretty sure the map sizes go
Oblivion>Skyrim>Morrowind
Oblivion is very slightly larger than Skyrim, both are larger than Morrowind by a decent amount but Morrowind has no fast-travel (by the character menu, I know there are other ways of it) and the walk speed is slower so it feels larger.

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>>382271052
Exactly. That's where Morrowind got some of its charm from. In Skyrim you can just follow your quest marker and slay like fifteen bandits at level 2. In Morrowind there are no quest markers, and you're constantly watching your back while you travel because you don't know what fucking nonsense is going to be around the bend. Enemies don't level with you, so you think twice before leaving a town.

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>>382268494
Basically all of what he says about Oblivion is right. My issues are with everything he says about Skyrim. For example, he claims that level scaling is fixed in Skyrim, because of its classless system, which is complete horseshit. It is the classless system that makes Skyrim's scaling broken. Since non-combat skills as well as skills you don't even intend on using but gain points in anyway count towards levelups, any points into those skills will weaken your character when faced with leveled foes. Granted, it's nowhere near as broken as in Oblivion, but it's still an issue. Pic related.

what happened to Knots guide? is there a better guide available now?

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>>382272396
It's not my first playthrough, but its been quite a while since last I played it.

Who was in the right? Hrisskar or Fargoth?

>>382273696
Also this is actually intentional. You're supposed to stray from the beaten path and explore on your own. If you get ruined, come back later. If you find some overpowered loot, cool, use it, that's your reward.

In Oblivion and Skyrim it's a lot more teleporting to arrows and finding levelled loot in dungeons. Not to mention some artefacts are scaled down to your level permanently if you do their quests too early, essentially a big fuck you for your initiative.

>>382271203
I play as Dark Elf
>Major
Long Sword
Heavy Armor
Restoration
Destruction
Security (lock-pick)

>Minor
Sneak
Acrobatics
Enchant
Armorer
Mercantile

Strength and Willpower under Combat specialization.

Shadow birth sign.

>>382273993
Both scum, I just take Fargoth's money for myself every time.

>>382268494
>removing classes was a good thing!
Stopped watching right there.

>>382270170
Only literal children hate dice rolls. and yeah Morrowind could be brutal to you if you went into places without proper utilities and preparations.

Everyone remembers their first Bonewalker

>>382272062
He's right though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

>>382273993
Did you run down that path a little bit and get that wizard's shit that fell from the sky?

>>382274246
yeeeeeees

i give him back the ring to get the discount, only to take his stash in the tree trunk and get the ring back.

dont even complete the quest, fuck hrisskar....300 gold to spend with a discount at the store. profit x 10

TOS>gothic

>>382246152
im guessing skychimp

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>>382274407
>You are over-encumbered

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>>382274427
6 times

>>382272396
>Perfect level up multiplier
Not like you need it, unlike in Oblivion.

>>382244634
But those are literally okay in jRPGs, so why the fuck not.

My personal gripe with Morrowind was the broken vendor relationship system.

>>382274552
Exactly. Nice little bit of help at the start

>>382274632
>haha, ok Bonewalker you got me, but i bested you. guess i'll just wait for my stats to recover
>5 minutes later it sinks in that you've fucked up

>>382274660
yeah it's not necessary. i like to do my 2nd or 3rd playthroughs as minmaxed hyper autist mode as possible though. pretty fun

>>382274552
That's pretty much what I do. I steal his shit, stop off at that store. Get that Wizard's shit that fell from the sky. Then run to Balmora picking all the mushrooms and flowers along the way so I can knock out the Mage's Guild early quests. This is about the time that my nostalgia wears off and I don't really want to play anymore.

>>382250675
rolling, hope i get something good...

>>382274550
Not that guy, but that's a remarkable gaming moment. verything up to that point is pretty "serious business".
The that fucker falls to his death, and you get the Icarian Flight scrolls off his body.

Always wore his hat on the trip to Balmora just to honor his memory.

>>382250675
Where is Morrowind roulette?

>>382251313
Sheeit, as a thirteen-year-old, I beat it to the naked ladies in that game. All of them.

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>>382274550
I never saw no wizard...

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What was your first character you ever played through morrowind as? Not just build, but what you did and how you played the game?

I remember my video card couldn't run it, pretty sure I had a Voodoo3. I had to go to CompUSA and I think I bought a Geforce MX 200 or something like that. I was obsessed with Cowboy Bebop at the time, which I believe was playing on Toonami, so I made a character named Vicious. For some reason it was a khajit. That was probably because all of the human and elf models were so ugly that I decided to go with one of the 2 other options.

I used katanas and made a potion that boosted fatigue and some other combat stats and named it Red Eye. I made hundreds of it and always took it before fights. I think I wanted to do the fighter's guild but couldn't get past the dwarven puzzle box. I did some mages guild but was completely blown away by the thieves guild. I also joined Hlaalu and finished the main story.

I miss being twelve.

>>382268494
>Cassius Cossaids
Is it too much to to ask for even one person on this planet that doesn't butcher the fuck out of that name?

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Sir, there have been a murder in this town. The tax collector...

Also I found this nice hat

>>382275710
I played the game on xbox first when I was younger. Played a nord with a warhammer and played through the fighters guild and killed the thieves guild. I didn't really know what I was doing much at the time but I got better

>>382275710
I played as a female Argonian, named after a dragon furry I had drawn a lot when I was 14.

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>>382273886
This is a good point i like this point

>>382274641
i almost think he is meming at this point, it is awful and retarded.

>>382275710
i prolly played a dunmer cause i was an edgelord as a kid, i main orcs now and im ashamed of it t b h

>>382275710
dwarven puzzle box is main quest, not fighter's guild. unless you thought you had to deal with hasphat to join, which you don't.

>>382259062
laugh? dude i'm cringing at this motherfucker. i always see gothic being advertised on steam and wonder if its worth my time. i won't even consider the damn things just to spite this gothicfag.

>>382276607
Are you ashamed of playing orcs, or ashamed of playing dunmer in the past?

I don't think there's any shame in playing any of the races. Khajit and Argonian are a little bit (y)iffy but that's due to furries becoming a thing.

>>382276781
Yeah I realized that after I posted, but can't remember what I got stuck on now. Wasn't there a quest from Eydis Fire-Eye that also sent you to those ruins? Or maybe it wasn't that at all, and I didn't know that there was a way around murdering everyone in the thieve's guild at the time.

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>>382275710
Tried being A dunmer using one of the given classes (spellsword I think) because I thought maybe the game would treat me less like an outlander for it. Got tired of being shit at both melee and magic real fast. Tried again with an Altmer with Atronach and a custom made mage class. Then I had fun. Never used alchemy though because Alchemists in my mind were the peasants of the mage world. Besides the stories of game breaking infinite intelligence buffs didn't appeal to me. I wanted to have phenomenal cosmic power, not break my computer.

Played Altmer every Elder Scrolls game since.

>>382268494
he is right mostly but him calling speed useless and weird in a universe where in-lore characters can become godlike an shiet i think running fast learning to jump high or moving slow but hitting like a truck all makes sense if (u) guys all get what i mean

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>>382275710

I made a straight fighter and felt like such a boss when I finished the quest to beat down that bitch fighters guild leader in Balmora. Wandered the world doing side quests for the most part after I finished the fighters guild. I got the game for Xbox when I was 11 and somehow managed to sit through all the loading screens. I remember riding home from the game store looking through the manual and getting to the part with all the different schools of magic and thinking, "holy crap there's a lot to this game". I found the sword of white woe without reading about it online and thought, "I bet no one else even knows about this!".

Deep inside my heart I know I'll never have a video game experience as magical as that again, but when my two year old sits with me and watches me play vidya, it gives me hope that I can pass these joys on to a new generation.

>>382275710
An Argonian spellsword. Out of a sense of tradition, My first play through of both later games were both Argonians, and both a variation of the spellsword.

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>I blew Imperial taxpayer money on Flin

The murderer took the money!

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>>382277043
it is really shit anon, i bnought it cause i thought this anon was talking it up like a similar game, you start out in gothic 2 getting told where to go it has a pure shit start level and the combat is super restrictive, you would pretty much be playing the same character every playthrough.

>>382277046
im ashamed of being an orc main because i like human races more aesthetically but orcs are the fastest race in morrowind and berserker rage is str8 fire in skyrim.
dunmers are cool af i don't like their bonuses though.
i agree about the beast races, that and they cant wear boots.

>>382275627

underrated post

>>382277043
>Not trying a classic RPG to spite an anonymous poster on a Ashlander Chitin Carving Website who will never even know if you did

S'wit

>>382277062
>I found the sword of white woe without reading about it online and thought, "I bet no one else even knows about this!".
I share those feels anon. There's so many coyly hidden trinkets. It really made that first adventure special.

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>>382277723
>Found the Fists of Randagulf and Chrysamere by accident
It's a great feeling

>>382271539
Yeah, it's the daedric plane of maddness, that point makes no sense.

>>382277981
madness can be done without wacky randumb too ya know

>>382277971
>20+ STR
>20+ AGI

how can medium armor even compete

>>382278190
Sure but it typically becomes boring and edgy.

>>382278287
just like wacky and randumb then?

>>382278254
It could compete by actually being good outside of a few pieces like the Ebony Mail and... Fuck if I know any others. I wanted to like medium armour but it has a lot fewer complete sets and only a few notable magic pieces

tfw you can kill alduin at lvl 1.