>Splinter Cell is back! MGS Drones on suicide watch >

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>>382233371
>wanting another SC after shitlist and cuntviction
>impling modern Ubishit games are worth even a pirate
>baiting with MGS flaming

End yourself.

>STEALTH
No thanks, it's been dead since the sixth gen version of Double Agent.

I'll just stay back here and observe the wreckage.

You forget Ubisoft makes this series I bet Sam Fisher will be a nigger woman

>>382233598

>blacklist
>bad

Confirmed for never played

>>382234019
I regret playing it.
I wish I could unplay it and forget that shitpile exists.

>>382233371
Never played a SC game before. I'm willing to bet that it'll be a reboot.

Will be casualised trash with a terrible hud

someone post the CT hud vs BlackList

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>>382234446
>buying splinter cell post chaos theory/double agent
>buying ubisoft games in 2017

>>382233904
>Samantha Fisher is a black dyke whose girlfriend is her operator who will constantly say erotic lesbian things in your ear

>>382234565

Would buy desu

>>382234446
Mark and Execute is disabled on the highest difficulty. You can disable lot of the HUD, with mods if you're that hellbent on making Blacklist less shit.

>>382234279
It was a solid series on the old OG Xbox and was ahead of MGS with a proper 3D camera angle and cool mechanics. It got casualized to shit last gen

>>382234019
blacklist was a great 3rd person action game.
Stealth?
what's that?

The game didn't punish me for shooting up everything as loud as possible even on the hardest difficulty, so why should I stealth?

This series needs to pull a Hitman and go back to it's roots asap

>>382233371
>Splinter Cell is back!
>people are still pitching ideas, development hasn't even started

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>>382233371

>sam has to bring down an evil fat, blonde, orange president who's a secret agent for the russians

Thanks, I'll pass on modern Ubicuck games.

>>382233371
Metal Gear is over now with Kojima gone anyway. I'd welcome a new Splinter Cell if only because there's no good ongoing stealth series anymore.

>>382234932

because it's a challenge and far more rewarding

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>>382235140
>it's a challenge
exactly.
A game where stealthing is far harder than just shooting everything is a bad stealth game. (mgs5 and dishonored are bad stealth games too btw)

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>>382233371

>i think you 2 are going to get on famously together
>nerdy main character i can dig this
>literally dies in the 4th fucking mission

>>382235396
Styx is hot but otherwise the game seems completely straightforward and uneventful. No interesting mechanics like MGS' tranq/cqc/lethal and silenced/noisy or additional tools like boxes/books/mgs3's food&animals/mgs4's emotions/mgs5's buddies&vehicles.

Instead you've just got fairly dumb AI with generic tools for putting out lights and making noises across a room along with stealth take downs. Not a whole lot to it and the setting's not amazing either.

>>382235140
>it's a challenge and far more rewarding
Unless you ignore 90% of items the game trows at you it's not a challenge at all.

>far more rewarding
You don't even get unique dialogue, guard interrogations/banter and secrets by stealthing, unlike in older SC games.
The bonus objectives are copy pasted trash like "sack this NPC for intel", but what intel did he have? "Hack this comupter", what did it even cotain or do? You just get bonus xp for the item unlocks.
It's a soulles IP chash-in directed by out of touch suits, that's why it bombed.

I can't understand what kind of shit taste you must have to enjoy it, or maybe you get money to shill or it.

>>382236138
Did you try the second game?
I agree that the first one was pretty shit, didn't even finish it.
But the second game improved a lot,especially level design and varied locations, AI is also decent.

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>>382233371
>New Splinter Cell under current Ubisoft

No.

Blacklist on the highest difficulty with only NV/thermal was quite good.

Sonar goggles need to go, they really ruin the tense feel of the game

I wonder if the plot will resolve around Sam being outted as a creature of the night when people pick up on him aging backwards.

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>>382236336
Highest difficulty doesn't add anything, it just removes stuff.
It doesn't improve the awful level design, doesn't add content for stealthing, doesn't improve AI or clean up the HUD from objective markers and enemy visibility indicators, doesn't remove the setpiece action levels and doesn't improve the controls and move sets of Sam.

>doesn't even have iconic slip jump
>NV goggles only used in a single mission
>everything is context sensitive with button prompts

>>382236160

depends on what you're after in a game the 1st 3 SC games had a lot more freedom despite the maps being quite linear. The Stealth element came in after completing the game I'd find a hidden tunnel so rather than go guns blazing through the front door I'd find a quiter way. DeusEx:MD is the most recent stealth tactical shooter that I have played which comes close to the original SC trilogy. I havent played styx, thief was good too.

>>382234558
Sam... you ARE old.

Awesome! can't wait for Sam to be a gay trans afrom sheboon.

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I liked both Blacklist and Conviction

>>382233371

If it's open world I'll fucking kill myself.

Open world killed MGS, please Ubi do it like Blacklist at least.

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>>382238062
>modern fucking ubisoft made one of best co-op moments

I remember everyone talked so much shit about sc adding that reflex aiming thing but then mgs did it so it was okay.

>>382238062

The last level of Conviction is fucking brillant.

I was couch playing with my friend, we joked our way through the whole game and at that last moment we stopped talking and laughing and the tension rose like crazy. Brillant stuff.

>>382238263
Conviction and blacklist don't have reflex.
They do have mark and execute which is just a everything dies button.

>>382236712
Some of the maps were fine like the beginning area in Chicago and that huge underground bunker in the last level.

The only bad maps were the linear ones

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>>382238196
post yfw

>>382238496
>The only bad maps were the linear ones
Like Pandora Tomorrow?

>>382234446
It would play exactly the same as Ghost Recon Wildlands just without co-op allies.

>>382235412
>A game where stealthing is far harder than just shooting everything is a bad stealth game

Not really. Games like Deus Ex, Dishonored, MGSV, etc just use stealth differently than pure stealth games. It's typically depicted as the morally superior option and there's an almost voyeuristic pleasure and sense of mastery in not having to kill people; in not taking the easy way out.

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Why do people shit on conviction? The co-op was kino. Much better than having mercs vs spies.

Can't wait for Sam Fisher to shout "Boom Bang MOTHER FUCKER!" as he shoots an unsileneced Desert Eagle at his first target.

>>382239152
>much better than MvS

You fucking wanna fite m8.
Chaos Theory MvS was perfect and double agent wasn't too bad.
Blacklists MvS was fucking horrible though

>>382234558
kek the mission objective in Conviction is so much different from this

>>382239152

It sucks that there no one to do those missions with.

>Ubisoft
I think Splinter Cell fags are the ones on suicide watch here.

>>382238943
yes, quite a few of those maps were miserable, like Jerusalem, the Submarine base, and the TV station.

Chaos Theory improved map design by 10000%

I actually just redownloaded Blacklist. Always been interested in doing the coop

>>382239341
I agree with you. I was saying the co op was better than MvS in Blacklist. Let's be real tho, it's not gonna get better.

>>382239509
>implying SCfags haven't already committed sudoku after Conviction and Blacklist and this isn't just their angry ghost REEEEEss

>>382239757
Blacklist was a step in the right direction, if we had just gotten a Conviction 2 I might have committed Sudoku

>>382239576
The co-op in Blacklist is mechanically better than convictions but convictions has better level design, pacing and characters
Legit Briggs is one of the most horrifically bland characters in modern games to date.

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>bashing that smug little spy shits brains out for thinking he could get that cheeky rush stab on you

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>>382233371

>New Splinter Cell trailer released
>They kill off Fisher and Briggs is the protagonist of the series

You know it going to happen.

>>382239757
>double agent happens
This...this isn't too good...
>conviction happens
God no
>Blacklist happens
I didn't even give it a chance when it was released. The last two games burned me good and reading the pre-release info just made me mad. Years later I realized it wasn't as bad as was being memed

CT > 6th DA > PT > 7th DA > Con > SC > BL

>>382240065
>he didn't play the last gen versions of Double Agent

>>382240049
Eh, Sam was getting old anyways. Not really interesting to play him after he got the new voice actor that sounds way too young and for some reason made him switch his personality to something completely different. So unless they reboot the series, why not Briggs?

>>382240065
>con above BL

>CT > 6th DA > 7th DA > PT > SC1 >BL > Con

>>382240329
Because Briggs is boring as fuck.
Nothing/Nobody will replace Ironside and the banter writer

>>382240456
Maybe Sarah should be written in as a sudden Fourth Echelon recruit, boom, problem solved

>>382240389
I felt Conviction struck a much better balance of stealth with action as opposed to Blacklist's action with stealth. Plus it was still Ironside voicing Fisher and the Co-op mode was pretty good.

Didn't the original VA of Sam leave because he thought the series was turning to shit?

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I'll always hate double agent for canonically killing off Lambert, and even worse making Fisher be the one to do it. Also the game was shit

>>382240640
yeah because splinter cell's strength was always its characters

>>382240583
I thought the excuse was that the new voice also did mocap and Ironside wasn't exactly up for that due to his age. Kinda thought that was bullshit though so you may very well be right anon

>>382240583
Who, Michael Ironside? That bloated drunk would do anything for a paycheck, so I doubt it

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>>382240725
It was though

>>382240756
That's the excuse Ubi when with.

Ironside said he didn't like the direction the character was taking and refused to sign on.

>>382240541

It just be like that Lara Croft reboot with her saying "I can do this!" over and over again.

>>382240845
who can forget female field agent and black boss person? not to mention the guy that has nefarious schemes

>>382233371
>MGS Drones
>implying they aren't all dead inside and now and don't give a shit, except for ruisecruse fags but they are batshit crazy anyway

>>382240583
Probably. I don't buy Ubisoft's whole "We wanted someone who could do the facial capture as well" as schtick. Especially when you consider Ironside's input on the original Splinter Cell, making Sam have some humour in his character and to not go over the top with the anger and violent part of Fisher. Keeping him human and professional. Then compare his version of Sam with how Fisher acts in Blacklist. It seems most likely to me that Blacklist's writers wanted Sam to be a more violent action hero who's always serious and boring and Ironside didn't want to be that kind of character.

Just a few more years and Matt Damon can play Sam Fisher.

>>382240894
I believe this. Ironside turned the series down in the first place because Sam Fisher was just a typical Hollywood grunt with no personality. Ubi allowed him to help rework the character until he was satisfied with it. New Ubi is a company about demographs and trends and shit so no doubt they stopped caring what he thought and it was a mutual drop

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>>382240923

My dad works at Ubisoft.

The new Splinter Cell is set in Iraq in 1991 and features an open world.

>>382240923
Can't have a modern day female character display confidence and competence now can we.

>>382241012
That's your opinion I guess. But I cared more about these characters than in a game like MGS that's even more story oriented

>>382241243
Plausible

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What happened to him?

>>382241035
I did like how furious sam was in Conviction but he had an excuse then.
New same doesn't even seem genuinely angry, he seems like he's just acting angry.

Plus 4th Echelon just giving OPs control to a field agent was stupid as fuck and I'm surprised Sam was still top-dog after he blundered through Blacklist burning every Agency and Intelligence bridge he had

>>382241125
Tom Hardy is already playing him.

>>382241243
Oil fields, Iraqi airbases, Scud launcher sites, forward radar stations in the desert.

If true would be cool, except for the Ubisoft part.

>>382241243

Will it have collectible flags and unlockable hidden blade weapon too?

>>382241392
Sam should be furious, a dark edgy loathing kinda dude who doesn't say shit, everyone should be afraid of him but his daughter.

Blacklist fucked up.

>>382241486
A Splinter Cell movie is already planned?

ruh roh

>>382241347
Same thing that happened to Fransis Coen.

Who was in the wrong here?
https://youtu.be/ApYWKSU-zN8

>>382241629
There was a movie planned since the first fucking game. Or second one. I remember it teased after the credits

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>>382241591
>Sam should be furious, a dark edgy loathing kinda dude who doesn't say shit,

McKill yourself.

>>382234019
Longtime MGSfag here. Blacklist was my first Splinter Cell. It was better than MGSV. I played the earlier games in the series since then and I felt bad for missing out on it all this time.

>no splinter cell collection to hype up for next splinter cell
That's how you can tell Ubisoft hates its consumers

>>382241831
not him but i liked conviction exactly cause this
he's so angry and shit
and the way he beats the redhead jesus
i had an orgasm in dis game

>>382241716
Shetland, obviously. His goal and what he was actually doing were misaligned. One was not going to lead to the other.

>>382235104
Metal Gear is not dead. Kojima never left.

>>382242009
There was a barebones compilation for the PS3 a few years ago. It didn't even include the DLC missions for the first game.

>>382242067
Sam was working for the bad guys though

>>382241716
Sam was just doing his job, Shetland should have stayed out of the way

>>382241838
I disagree with you completely being a person who has played the first three SC games and Blacklist,while Blacklist is good it is a little too easy.

>>382241838
GZ was way better than BL's gitmo level.

>>382242253
Wasn't even released on Xbox, where the games have always played best. How the hell do you fuck it up so badly?

Speaking on those DLC missions, I never connected the first game to XBL until well into Xbox 360's life cycle, and I was blown away at the fact that there were additional maps you could download.

>>382242973
Additional maps were later released to pc via patch as well. It floats somewhere on the internet and installing it is a bitch.

>>382242973
>Wasn't even released on Xbox, where the games have always played best. How the hell do you fuck it up so badly?
To be fair, the games in the PS3 compilation are based on the PC/Xbox versions, not the watered down PS2 ports.