>developer makes game >developer makes sequels to said

>>382196213
A sequel should surpass the original. It should fix the problems.

Dark Souls 2 is phoned in as fuck. Don't defend it

>>382196213
Why do you make the same thread?

>>382196213
>faggot brony makes shit thread

>>382196445
It's a brony, he's angry with /v/ over global rule 15

>>382196307
I'm not. DaS2 is garbage. I don't even consider it a souls game.

>>382196213
e-celebs and e-celeb apologists

if you value hard work then stop giving these fuckers money, they just talk all day

>>382197124
I don't value hard work

>>382197176
why are you telling me this

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Stop talking about Matthewmatosis.

>>382197498
Why are you telling me what to do with my money?

>>382197874
>s-stop telling me what to do!
buyers remorse detected

>>382197613
>Has put up 14 quality videos this past year
>Matthew only put up 7, 5 of which no one cared about
>Has a wife and a child
>Matthew fucks his little sister
>Has a secondary job as an author
>Matthew just plays video games

>>382198264
I think Joseph has 2 kids now.

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>>382198797
My boy's been getting it on.

>>382198264
little sister > wife

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>>382198264
>Matthew fucks his little sister
Source?

>>382199480
You're a smart one, aren't you?

>>382199480
He's done a couple of streams where he has his little sister read him questions and being subtly lewd. She sounds really cute, so I can't really blame him, but it's still a bit messed up to have an intimate relationship with your own flesh and blood.

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>>382199837
Very

joseph anderson and matthewmatosis are both entry level.


i wont giveaway the better guys for fear of contaminating the well with newfags, but spend some time looking, you will be pleasantly surprised and much better informed

He had a couple of different points about how the Souls games have failed as sequels. Becoming derivative and failing to innovate on the level of Demon's Souls was one, but it was also about focusing on weaker aspects of the games, failing to fix problems that have existed for several games, fixing problems and introducing good new features in a game and then backtracking on them in the next.

He rattled off positives and negatives for every game, including Dark 2, and clearly values the refinements Dark 1 made to Demon's because despite slamming it with some of the same derivative criticisms as the other games, because he's said it's his personal favourite.

>>382200541
I agree, Hbomberguy is brilliant

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>>382198264
>Matthew fucks his little sister

>>382196307
BUT YOU'RE WRONG!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTfcMeqhig&t=568s

>>382200661
>woah hey guys! look at what Sargon wrote on twitter! isn't he so silly! I care so little about Sargon that I'm going to watch all his videos and snarkily retort them.

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>>382198264
>Matthew fucks his little sister
wow he really is our guy then

>>382196213
He isn't complaining that the sequels are derivative, he is complaining that the sequels are focusing on the wrong aspects of the franchise and are losing a lot of their charm as a result.

ill give you guys a hint, stay off of youtube in terms of game designers. the better ones are autismos who sound like the stereotypes and stick to LOTS of articles and discord

>>382200541

sup errant signal

>>382196307
It isnt about DS2 its about all of the souls series
There is a clear downgrade with the bosses in later games,

>>382200945
Just a reminder that this fag defends feminists and is an SJW. Also his videos are reddit-tier trash.

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>>382198264
>Matthew fucks his little sister
If you're trying to make me hate the guy you're doing a bad job

>>382200784
Literally the shittiest and most petty attempt at a defense I've ever seen. His comments about lock-on are the only ones with any foundation at all. He's all over the place here, saying it's fine to make healing more casual because he doesn't like the frustration of dying, but also acting high and mighty about not playing with a shield and saying that people who do are bad at the game. I don't deny that he actually enjoys it, but he's clearly so fucking inept at articulating why and felt so attacked by Matt's criticism that he decided to play every side necessary to defend every single change in the game, even if those mentalities were at odds with one another.

He's so fixated on debunking Matthewmatosis' critique video that in his DEFENSE of Dark Souls 2, he completely fails to bring up ANY of the actually new, good features of the game or stress any of the improvements the game made so he could spend more time saying that none of the flaws in the game are flaws by any measure. Except when they are, in which case he defaults to "yeah, but I don't care about that".

>>382200784
>The completely illogical and disconnected world is great because it makes the world feel more magical and interesting!
It really is insane how far some people will go to try and spin an obvious flaw into a positive. They either fucked up with DaS2's world design, or they didn't care.

>>382196213
This thread is derivative

guys this is the autist you should be reading. https://critpoints.wordpress.com/2015/03/20/matosis-darksouls2/


please dont ruin his community

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>>382198264
>quits his job and sets up patreon
>goes dark for months to avoid spoilers for some shitty weeb visual novel
I like his videos, but he's clearly crazy

>>382200541
>>382201219
Go away.

I didn't watched the video, but des is my favorite souls game, even though it wasn't my first.

it had more original stuff, and made some things better, didn't had retarded stuff like ''time is convoluted'' and the random dimension, alternative universes and time travel stuff.

it had gimmick bosses, but they were fun while in the dark souls games, specially the later ones the bosses don't have any weakness or mechanic other than learning their attack patterns.

I love the thing that the old hero being blind for example, and he can't hear you unless you hit something with your weapon if you are with the thief ring.

>>382200784
I'm baffled at how bad this video is. Do people really think this guy blew Matt out?

>>382201219
>please dont ruin his community
I'm pretty sure its already shit considering this retard is defending DaS2.

>>382201271
I like that about him.

>>382201219
>Wagar has actual shills now

seems like he's already ruined to me

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>>382199961
>but it's still a bit messed up to have an intimate relationship with your own flesh and blood
Why would you say that anon?

>>382201347
No, but they don't think Matt's points hold up either

>>382196213
Sequels are, by definition, a continuation of a narrative. This means:
a) if a game doesn't continue the narrative of another is not a sequel, regardless of it having number in its title (Dota 2, for example, is not a sequel to DotA)
b) a sequel continues the narrative, but it doesn't have to continue the gameplay mechanics. they normally do because fans would get pissy otherwise

So yeah, it's not too outrageous to ask for a developer to be innovative gameplay-wise in a sequel, as it is only, by definition, a continuation of the narrative. BUT to expect things to change too much is foolish, as that would be a death sentence for the developer.

>>382201271
>prefers to play games completely blind to not ruin his experience

Don't see anything wrong with this.

>>382201271
>valuing video games over your income

sounds like someone i should trust

>>382200784
What's the background song from the very beginning from? I know I heard it before in the Tale of Tales trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3hVmpGzl7A) but still don't know the name.

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>>382201502

>>382201219
>reading a fucking critique about a critique

Complete fucking autism, jesus christ.

>>382196213
>shields
>gimmicks

In the last thread, some of us were discussing Bloodborne's lack of viable shields, and what this does for the options in combat. Obviously blocking is no longer a viable option like it was in souls games. I was emphasizing the point that while Bloodborne has given up blocking, it has also added new mechanics, such as rally attacks for extra heals, hunter weapons or "spells" that don't cost stamina, and varied guns that can parry and interrupt at distance, control crowds, do chunk damage, etc.

>>382201663
I'll be uploading a critique of that guy's critique of Matt's critique later next week on my channel. You should check it out.

>>382201654
>sequel
> noun
>1.
>a literary work, movie, etc., that is complete in itself but continues the narrative of a preceding work.

If a sculptor makes, say, 2 statues of Aphrodite and calls them Aphrodite 1 and Aphrodite 2, the second is only a sequel of the first if it somehow continues a narrative.

Games like Tetris can't have sequels, no matter what.

On the other hand, a game like Monkey Island 2 perfectly exemplifies what a sequel is.

>>382201798
there have already been like 5, and people have then critiqued those.


if you think 4chan community is autism, you have no idea how deep the hole goes

>>382201890
I argue that the mechanics of the video game are what define it, and the continuation of the mechanics are more important than the continuation of a narrative. That definition is clearly based around narrative focused forms of media, and video games do not always adhere to this.

>>382201502
Are you reading the shit you post? So it's perfectly fine if my first game is a technological masterpiece and the sequel is made on Unity by amateur game developers withno experience on the field, but hey at least it continues the narrative!

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guy will never eat crisps in your ear while looking for another kaiju straight shota to wank off too

RIP gamewank.

Celt vidya reviews are still unconquered in quality.

>favourite bloodborne boss is micolash

He's just being a contrarian at this point.

>>382202542
He's apparently too smart for video games. Every boss is the same because all you do is dodge, attack, and heal. But with Micolash, you have to chase him before you can dodge, attack, and heal. So interesting, wow Matt, how do we become woke like you

>>382200784
I liked DS2 a lot and that video is extremely retarded because he's unable to accept the fact that the game has very obvious flaws and tries to pass them as some revolutionary shit. He literally tries to justify every bad design choice made in the game.

>>382202542
>Micolash was his favorite boss
>Wants more gimmick bosses because its better to have many shit experiences for one good, novel experience than to have a few polished, tried and true boss fights
>Wants the game to have bullshit difficulty spikes because "thats novel"

He really is a massive contrarian

>>382196213

I mean he's right, when you shit out sequels every year they kind of don't have much time to really fix what they did wron, hell they fucking fixed some problems only to remake them in later.

The Souls games should not have been yearly. They should have been at least 3 years apart so they could get their shit together and gather up good ideas. Maybe then they also could have made not-Souls games in the meantime, fuck I'd kill for another Lost Kingdoms or Armored Core.

>>382202821

I dunno I kind of agree with him that the bosses should have had more variety at least. I get where he's coming from.

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those who can't do, review

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>>382203209
and those who can't review, shitpost

>>382203183
I agree that the souls series needs more boss variety but claiming micolash is his favorite boss when its a wholly uninteractive chase followed by wacking him until he runs away again shows he priorities "uniqueness" over gameplay to an absurd degree.

Theres a middle ground between bed of chaos and a thousand artorios fights in a row

>>382202032
Narrative is usually an adhesion to most creative media. You can have games without a story, but the same goes for music, film, prose, poetry, sculpture... granted it's pretty rare because most people don't buy stuff unless it has a story.

>>382202040
I'm saying such a game as you propose would be a sequel, by definition. In your case that sequel might also be a bad game, given the lack of experience of the developers.

Tbh I think the Monkey Island, Monkey Island 2 vs DotA, Dota 2 exemplifies it perfectly, I'm not sure any other examples are needed.

>>382196213
>e-celeb bullshit
fuck off underage

>>382203342
>Theres a middle ground between bed of chaos and a thousand artorios fights in a row
Dark Souls 2?

>>382203851
Yes, but dont let the normies catch you saying that. Its our secret.

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>>382202456
>He doesn't listen to 2 good boys

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>>382202542
>He's just being a contrarian at this point.
Hmm...

>>382199961
Wait, i thought that was his gf? When did he state it was his sister?

>His sister hates DaS2 even more than he does
>To the point of getting upset when you bring it up
I guess it runs in the family or something.

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>>382196681

>>382202456
2 Good Boys is better than Gamewank though

>>382196681
>>382208790
Can someone explain this image to me?

>>382209824
https://youtu.be/5gWcbyOd-Qw?t=17s

>>382209824
Try saying it the way he does

>>382197613
>I really like this game!
>lists bad things for 3 and a half hours
>It's the best game in the series!

Also his videos are fucking long

>>382209995
https://youtu.be/k_VH3R1luEA

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>>382210212
>He did one with Super Bunnyhop and Joseph too

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>>382209824

either due to his Irish potato accent or due to some other minor speech impediment, Matthewmatosis has difficulty pronouncing the hard "th" sound - the one found in the words "tooth", "thanks", and "with". (not to be confused with the soft "th" sound, found in "whether", "other", etc.)

this impediment becomes particularly noticeable when he says a word with a hard "thr" sound, instead making the "ch" sound in its place. for instance, he tends to pronounce the word "through" as "chru", which makes it sound like he's saying the word "true." similarly, whenever he says the word "three", he pronounces it "chree", which is the same way he pronounces the word "tree."

thus, the image depicts Matthew confronted with the number three and a tree side by side with each other, and he is distressed by his inability to distinguish the between the two.

>>382201527
you're missing the fucking point familia

>>382210416
It always looked like a nuclear cloud to me

>>382211312
This. I think that's why i was so confused

>>382210416
It's the Irish accent from speaking Irish for so long.

>>382197613
>>382198264
I can't find this e-celeb. Whats his name?

>>382214324
Joseph Anderson.

>>382201890
So what do you call something like Final Fantasy IV?
If it isn't a sequel, then what word do you use to describe its relation to games in the same series preceding it? There's obviously a clear connection worth describing.

I feel like this mostly comes down to that definition differentiating between sequels and prequels, interquels, sidequels, and other such things above all else.
The issue with that is that "prequel" is more or less a word to describe a specific type of sequel that takes place before the events of a previous work.
I mean like... the origin of the word is just taking sequel, and slapping pre on the front. It's a portmanteau that came after sequel. Sequel comes from sequī, which means to follow, and pre means before, so "prequel" is basically "before follow". It's sort of nonsense.

Also, definitions from some other sources don't make out needing to continue a narrative as absolutely necessary to being a sequel.
From Marriam-Webster:
>the next installment (as of a speech or story); especially : a literary, cinematic, or televised work continuing the course of a story begun in a preceding one

I dunno. Words are weird.

>>382201271
Which VN tho

>>382203342
I agree. His favorite boss given the circumstances should've been Witch of Hemwick, the actual best boss

>>382210416
wow that was amazing coherently written.

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Bioshock Infinite is a bad game because it doesn't have the word nigger in it.

>>382196307
But DS2 fixed the flaws of its predecessor's gameplay, surpassing dark souls from a gameplay perspective
and dark souls 3 is better in every aspect than one