>2 expansions >ARR zones are still the most beautiful ones

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>>382147841

Have they done the forced logout thing yet? How did that go?

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>>382147989

>>382147989
For that shit SMN from the last thread
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JgRBsdC4ru6LCSep6YhG7LQjCU1dfa1thqLy3yO2N9A/edit
>Once again, I would like to emphasize that this is just some makeshift opener I threw together to generate ideas - we obviously won’t be able to optimize an opener for Summoner until we get to Stormblood.


That was theory crafting, why would you use a spell that enhances ruins then use a ruin that does less damage. think for yourself instead of copying straight from a guy who wrote a theroycrafting doc before the expansion came out then doesn't even play the class in 4.0. Any idiot can tell something is wrong with this rotation.

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>>382148301

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>>382148461

>>382148078

People logged back in to afk at the retainer bell again.

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>>382148623
I used to love to take screenshots in FF14, but now I barely find anything that captures my eye.

I blame flying. Flying was a mistake, just like it was in WoW.

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I felt like it had it's moments, fuck ala mhigo though I hate the desert.

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>>382148785

Any good 70 SMN guides?

I loved East End in the Fringes. That forest was beautiful. I think Azim Steppes is pretty great up close. It looks, like a lot of the areas, kind of bad from a distance. Everything ends up looking like PS2 era graphics the further you look away. All the detail is lost.

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>>382148819
desert is beautiful though

just not in SB

What's the highest damage you've seen on susano ex?

What can I do with clan mark logs?
I got a couple back in the Diadem and I know you used to trade them for the gob stuff to upgrade gear, but since that's pointless now what else can I buy with them?

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>>382149108

>>382149174
4700 from a sam when most other could barely get past 3k. Hope they get nerfed soon

>>382147841
Perhaps, but if thats what i had to give up to get Azim Steppe dungeon and Doma Castle, i say let it all burn

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>accept
>loljk
why is this allowed?

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>>382149269

Why can't I join Shinryu in PF because I haven't completed it? Where are the ones I can join? Is this no longer an option? Am I forced to DF it?

>>382148996
Make sure to not have bi0daster up while you use dwt then it's only a 15s ruin buff instead of a 30s one. do disater until dots run lw then use dwt to reset. It's not rigid anymore where you only use garuda. use ifirt for more physical combo parties and garuda for magic since ifrit can proc ruination more. everything else ogcd unless there a phase change.

>>382149306
All dps can do minimum 3.6k.
Anyone not a brd or a mch can do 3800.
Nin mnk and blm (why the fuck nin) can do 4200 or so.
Never seen a sam pass 4500 but it's probably possible, with enough party synergy.
All of the above numbers are with an AST.

>>382149306
>4700
I'm not sure why I was expecting serious replies.

>>382149262
5 books will get you barding.

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*activates sharingan*

>>382147841
SB areas are not supposed to look pretty. They are meant to be depressing and ruined.

>>382149560
But what if we need those books for upgrades?!

I actually liked the Dravanian forelands and the churning mists

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>>382149410

What stats should i be slotting my PLD gear with?

How much dps should everyone be doing on Susan? I'm parsing to try and see who the problem is but I've always been a healer so I don't know what good numbers are. Im assuming the dps isn't good enough though when we hit enrage with 20% to go

>>382149683
The CM is pretty great. It's got that fantastical FF feel to it and it gave a great feeling of scale to flying.

>>382149671
>But what if we need those books for upgrades?!
But a barding.

>>382148434
>June 15th, 2017 EDIT: I will be playing tank for my raid group in 4.0. As a result, I probably will not be writing a 4.0 Summoner guide. Sorry guys!

And there it is. Even the guy who was playing down the SMN nerfs has jumped ship

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>>382149583
sure, make it look depressing, but at least don't make it look boring

>>382149794
Piety and spell speed obv

How to play DRK in Frontlines

>Spot enemy healer/caster
>Unmend
>Low Blow
>gg

>>382149573
>still jobs to us
I wish we had an enemy that actually gave us a challenge, like something we couldn't beat without "just level up more" like zenos. I want to see like a group actually realizes that we're super strong and gang up on us and even then it still didn't work with the WoD. Hopefully we get a storyline where the scions fall from grace and turn against us or something like that.

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>>382149683
>>382149821
Churning Mist is probably the one exception to the rule

excuse the elf posting

>>382149583
>They are meant to be depressing and ruined.
Kagune is great. So damn colorful and shit. Same with Azim. Both are really foreign feeling, too.

>>382149796
How much are you doing? From my own experience of playing a lot of susano on PF most people parse around 2.8, but of course when I say most people I'm talking about most PF shitters.

>>382149991
to be fair you had to cheat back to counter her Echo Sharingan

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>>382149987
>pvp

I've been maining healers since ARR and want to try DPS.
Should I go with RDM, BLM, SAM or BRD?

>>382150092
t. shitter who got UNMEN'D

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>>382150025
this was also a fairly cool place, but the repetetive ground textures ruined a lot of it

>>382150138
RDM

Well, that's wrong. Azim Steppes and Ruby Sea exist.

>>382150164
>t posting
>ever
Not even him but get your shit together senpai.

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>>382149987
>Unmend
Is this that shit that always pulls me in? If it is, fuck you.

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>>382150176
Azys Lla was alright too

1.0 looked way better than ARR desu

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I only just started Heavensward, the dreary cold aesthetic is my jam, even if it isn't pleasant to look at.
Pic not related.

>It's a guy invites his girlfriend and she's doing less damage than the offtank group.

>Hey guys first time here :)

I've been out of the loop with Stormblood but I just unlocked SAM. If im supposed to grind POTD, should I just farm floors 51-60 or complete 51-100 over and over?

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>tfw PLD
>get mega big-dick buffs in SB
>but you still don't have a single fun class quest
An abstract kind of feel.

>>382149987

>Not applying Sole Survivor for turbo fuckery

>>382148996
Hoping that someone works out a proper opener soon. I'm stuck at 9% on the Susano EX SSS. I'm under the minimum ilvl mind you, some stuff is still in the i282 range, but I still think there's a better answer than what i'm doing.

Toying with the idea of using swiftcast inside DWT so I can throw out Ruin III/IV and Shadow Flare in the same GCD. Gotta be some use for Swiftcast now, and Shadow Flare might be a bit more useful if it's buffed inside DWT.

desu the only reason i put up with this game is because of the monster design and ff fanservice in general. i was never too fond of the graphics. it looks so clean and sterile and lifeless. world always feels empty too

>>382150485
>explain shit
>no problems
Let me guess, you're one of them no bonus people on the first week something comes out. Cancer.

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>>382150243
Post one good looking screenshot of Ruby Sea on the level of Costa del Sol

yes, I know this isn't Costa del Sol

>>382150485
SB IS ALREADY OUT FOR A WEEK TWO FOR EA WTF FUCKING NOOBS REEEAAAAAAAAE

>>382150531
51-60 till your 60 then pvp till 70

>>382150485
>>382150645
I never tell people it's my first time in hopes they won't explain the mechanics to me

if they do I will turn off the chat so I don't read what they're writing

>>382147841
the only problem I have with ffxiv is that you're forced to do a 100000 hour long story mode and interact with characters you don't care about while running back and forth for fetch quests until you can get caught up with current content and be actually able to have fun
though, I was able to make a cute girl character, so that makes up for it, I guess

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I miss my monk and feel bad about abandoning it.

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>>382150386
>I love this thing that looks like shit even when I openly admit it looks like shit

Yoshi?

>trying to level up rdm from 60-70
kill me
theres only so much pvp a man can do

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>>382150782
>falseflagging
>reddit spacing

>>382150324
Poorly underused.

>>382150598
>>382150645
>good player joins
>doesn't announce he is a first timer, he knows what's coming because he has internet
>performs good, often even better than non first timers

>bad player joins
>hey guys anything I need to know? Please teach me
>proceeds to die

>>382150598
>its that easy to teach people

yeah, no

>>382150709
frontlines or W's den?

>>382150630
>can't swim at the beach in the Mist
But why.

>We don't think DPS waiting times will be affected by the lack of new Tank/Healer jobs
>Duty Roulette alone is longer than an hour

Bravo YoshiP

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>make a party for lakshimi ex practice
>going well
>server crash
Ok.

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>>382150814
tell me about it. finally got through the heavensward msq after 3 days of nonstop questing. the constant dismounting and mounting up again made me go insane. i also question why they slow down your gorunded mountspeed in the zones until you get further into their respective msq. feels like a dick move

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>>382150814
We have a product just for you.

>>382150709
How long does that shit take these days? Or did jump potions ruin the leveling curve like they did for WoW via no more Armory boost.

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What did she mean by this?

>>382150868
I've been playing the game for 100 hours and there's not one fight you can't work out while participating. How bad to you need to be to need a walkthrough beforehand?
What the fuck can kill you so quick?

>>382150976
Not even that. PFs STILL taking forever to fill up with Tanks, let alone healers that even give a shit anymore.

>>382150976
>doing roulettes in 2017

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>>382150853
>reddit spacing
definitely my favourite new meme

almost as good as NO SPOONFEEDING

>>382151057
I'd feel like a complete jackass if I paid to skip the story though
it's just a lose-lose situation

>>382147841
I just started playing it a couple of days ago, and I think most of the areas look phenomenal, especially Limsa Lominsa and the desert. Gridania is extremely comfy at night and when it rains. Didn't buy the expansions yet, do they add a lot of areas?

>>382151043
>i also question why they slow down your gorunded mountspeed in the zones
PS3 limitations.

>>382151079
Onahol'd

>>382150976
In ten years, ten fucking years, an entire decade.
Not once did Blizzard add a new class that couldn't tank.
Every single one of them could tank.

Guess what, doesn't fucking help the queues. People still play DPS.

>>382151086
Lots of newbies struggle with Ultima's Bane

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>>382151172
is it reddit spacing because of the blank lines. I don't go on reddit, so I don't really know.

>>382151240
PS4 Limitations*

As long as this game is on console it will be held back from progressing technically.

>>382151240
what? you unlock faster mountspeed in each zone after you are about halfway through with their respective mainquests. why just not let us go at that speed from the get go in the zones

>>382151221
yes
also the areas are much larger and you can fly

>>382151221
>Didn't buy the expansions yet, do they add a lot of areas?
Sure, though if you thinking about getting them, I wouldn't until you need to. A lot of that content will be locked behind quests so you wouldn't be able to do it until you finish the base game.

>>382151338
>newbies struggle with hardcore content
Woah it's like that content is designed for a less-than-casual audience!
It's almost like it's completely optional and can be skipped entirely by casuals.

>>382151374
people have been posting like that for years and years
so you don't end up with texts that read like this
because it looks quite retarded. But now all of a sudden, and I don't know why, it has become a problem
seems like it's the new bogeyman to blame
not like I really care, it's gonna get replaced with some other minor contrivance that can be pointed out so people don't have to deal with the actual content of the post

At least SB zones have proper borders. They don't look like as if they are floating like Dravanian Forlands.

>>382151162
>doing msq as dps
>it's another hour long waiting as dps for the party to fill up
>when the tank finally shows up the healer goes afk and everything gets disbanded

I'm fairly new to this game, but holy hell, what did they do to tanks and healers, it's almost impossible to find any of them.

>>382151328
Yes, COULD tank. Jobs in XIV are very linear, if you pick a tank job you best believe you're tanking. All it takes is one new tank job and there will be enough people interested in playing it, simply for the sake of it being new, to reduce queue times dramatically. But no yoshit had the genius idea of two DPS because tanks will still tank and healers will still heal despite there being two whole new jobs to experiment with im so smurt :)))

>>382151452
I sense butthurt in your post.

>>382151328
Tanking's not fun

>>382150485
>salut ^^

>>382151532
so having additional whitespace that improves readability is an issue. I'm glad they're not programmers...

>>382149480
>All dps can do minimum 3.6k.
I don't have susano weapon or lisa acessories yet but I can only keep 3500 dps as rdm

>>382151532
>tumblr format

Kill yourself

why is kugane so much better than ishgard

Honest to god question here:

How do you Miqote and Aura players stand having your ears/horns and tails clip through armor and headgear? It looks so fucking disgusting to me.

>>382151623
They only released 2 new dps with the latest expansion so a lot of the people who normally play tank/healer are playing them instead.

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>>382150976

The worst thing is that the two new DPS are some of the burstiest fucks around so tanking can be a frustrating ordeal right now.

>Three target pack
>Range pull A
>Samurai immediately does his dash to target B
>See him twirl his blade and starts casting Midare Setsugekka
>Red Mage Twincasts on target C
>See him do his gap closer and melee combo
>White Mage runs into the center and starts spamming Holy

This has happened far too many times already.

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SB areas are comfy

>>382151797
COLOR

>>382151532
People have not been posting like that en masse for years, no. People have only begun doing it lately as phone traffic is larger than ever and growing.
People who browse 4chan on a mobile device probably browse reddit aswell.

>>382151641
>All it takes is one new tank job and there will be enough people interested in playing it, simply for the sake of it being new, to reduce queue times dramatically.
No you don't understand. Maybe some pre-existing tanks will switch to it but anyone who wasn't interested still won't be.
People don't like tanking. No amount of jobs will change that.
There's zero harm in DPS only expansions, in fact it's probably more entertaining for more people. The queues will always be a problem so long as tanking carries the burden of leadership which is its real problem.

>>382151859
It's been used before phones were even able to peruse the internet. I should know. But I agree, that phoneposters use it excessively, however the true tell of phoneposting is lack of capitalization except at the very start of a sentence.

>>382151868
Maybe next expansion they will release two healers or two tanks and fuck things up.

>>382150485
>Join low level dungeon
>"Hey guys first time tanking, please be gentle with me."
>Run proceeds smoothly with little to no issues
>At the end I say good job tank that went really well
>Tank becomes really happy and adds me as friend
>After that I queue up with the tank and help clear dungeons etc.
>Eventually get on Discord because it's easier than typing all the time
>Turns out it's a normal girl with a normal life playing on the PS4

Went better than expected.

>>382151816
Tank openers should shit out.more than they do. So every pull isn't you racing an aggro fight you'll barely win. Makes tanking a bigger chore than it already is.

>>382151816
Gotta say, i'm generating a lot more aggro as a SMN in 4.0 than I did in 3.0.

Especially in those moments when Bahamut brings out his massive 680 potency dragon dick and spurts all over a pack of enemies twice in 13 seconds.

>>382151868
>Maybe some pre-existing tanks will switch to it

Even still this is preferable because it's keeping tanks tanking. Right now because the new classes are only DPS tanks are switching to DPS but nobody is trying tanking or maintaining being a tank. A new tank class alleviates that

>>382152009
Or maybe you know in the first expansion they'll release a healer and a tank and that'll do fuck all about the queues which is what happened?
I'm telling you from experience, adding more tank classes doesn't make more tank players. Please believe me.

>>382152081
and then anon creeped her out by bee-ing himself

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>>382151868
The only real problem is tanking is the only job you have to do work on to do everything, including easy content.

>that part where you can completely deflate Lyses optimism and good mood and she gets all upset about it
She's such a sheltered naive girl it's baffling. Papalymo must have had the patience of a saint to put up and restrain her for over 6 years.

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>>382151391
You don't think they're doing it on purpose to keep you in their digital skinner box, do you?

>>382151868

And now we get to enjoy pre-existing tanks and healers leaving their roles to play DPS. I was there for HW man. Queues were nice as shit.

>>382149472
Do pets go on auto now or obey?

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>>382152182
>He thinks being a healer is easy

>>382152152
>don't like any of the current tank classes
>therefore will never touch tank

>>382152171
So this is where the $30M budget went to, huh?

Making quests and cutscenes acknowledge which role you are.

Jesus fucking christ.

>>382151821
Raen lolis are adorable.

>>382152171
>Only tracks your levels not if its your active job or not.
DUMB

>>382152135
Maybe you could switch to tank instead of crying while being part of the problem.

>>382152204
>reward players for playing in that zone
>n-no!! they're trapping us in the skinner boxes!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>382152217
>I was there for HW man. Queues were nice as shit.
it's true

dedicated tanks rushed DRK quickly giving the illusion of more readily available tanks during leveling

>>382152309
What kind of tank are you waiting for?

>>382152282
>Healslut gets defensive over playing wackamole for an hour at a time

>>382151816
>DPS do their single target big dick burst on someone other than the Tank's target before he can do even a single threat combo
>they pull aggro
>let them tank it if they start doing this constantly
Did I miss the memo here? Is this no longer standard? I mean if it happens here and there I'll just provoke or Cover because shit happens and all, but for real, I thought that behavior was standard.

>>382151868

Honestly I mained WAR and I switched to DRK in HW

Yoshi was right, for the most part people dont change their roles. DPSfags aren't all of a sudden gonna go for a tank just because its new. They're afraid of responsibility

>>382151797
Layout. Ishgard was too big and empty in a lot of places and spread out people too far and wide. It still looked great imo, but Kugane works out so much better for an MMO.

>>382150324

there better be another dungeon here though a Fractal hard would be cool too.

>>382152282
>>382152282
>pop out regen or aspected benefic
>go back to spamming aero 3/holy/gravity/malefic/stone
yeah I do
t. level 70 WHM

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>>382151816
>>382152406

>DPS pulls aggro because he isn't attacking the same mob I am
>Let him take it and die

Fuck idiot DPS players. I'm not burning through all my shit just because you're a retard.

>>382151816
Doesn't sound like your labeling your mobs so your DPS know which one to hit first.

>>382149796
DPS should stay over 3k, tanks should stay over 2k, can't remember the healers, if you get Susano down to AT LEAST 80% during the first phase, you need no fuck ups to clear it, if you get him at around 78%, your party has good enough DPS to clear it and you are just enraging because everyone is dying

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What the HECK was his problem?

>>382152415
I'm only afraid of being bored.
It does feel good getting to make the pace of the dungeon though.

I just started playing AST and it's quite fun. Seems super easy to keep people topped off with hots and then I can just play solitaire with my cards instead of watching the fights.

I enjoy being a healer. COMMENDATE ME MOAR!

>>382151821
That's so fucking cute. I love it.

>>382152152
This exact same thing happened with NIN though.

NIN got released and DPS times increased dramatically. And that was during Final Coil so it wasn't like players had nothing to do

>>382151821
>nothing on the ground
>not even lines in the dirt
Stupid, too. Even the Doman girl in Namai had sticks to help her with the game.

>>382152568
Autism

>>382151079
She meant that she's a mewling little piglet

>>382152472
this

for the most part regen covers all your needs, especially when you do a group heal with medica 2 as well

>finish the main story
>become instantly bored after realizing the only thing left is another tome grind

>>382152568
He is the logical conclusion of the might makes right philosphy of the empire. You get batshit crazy people such as this.

>>382152568
He wanted to die with an excuse.

>>382152392
He's waiting for an evasion tank.

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>>382152081
>Normal girl
>Not a tgirl

You gay or something

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>>382152347
they shouldn't slow down the mount speed in the first place. its dumb and serves no purpose other than to annoy you. to top it off, once you unlock faster mountspeed you are nearly done in that zone anyways and go to the next, where your speed is slow again. this pissed me off the most while going through the msq these last 3 days

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>people complaining about queues
>blame too many DPS
>only DPS get queues

Well, did we find the problem yet?

Currently playing as a Lalafell AST, but I fancy changing race, what do you guys suggest?

>>382152528
If you aren't marking the enemy then you're objectively in the wrong here

>>382152635
>the ninja horde in coerthas central at all hours of the day
good times

>>382152812
Lalafell are a pretty good race to play as, give them a look.

>>382152706
That's when you're supposed to play other games until new content.

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>>382152809
Maybe if tanks and healers were interesting classes, people would want to play them. So yes, I found the problem.

>>382152424
this senpai, i hate ishgards layout. the minimap can be so deceiving in the pillars

>>382152812
femzen make great ASTs
but so do Hyur

wouldn't recommend lizard

>>382150904
frontline shatter.

>>382152796
Clearly what they should have done is not improve mount speed at all, then you wouldn't be complaining.

Fucking conveniencefags I swear. Reee why don't I start at max level and have new gear mailed to me, it's not like the game is hard!

>>382152796
>they shouldn't slow down the mount speed in the first place.
PS3 Limitations. Please understand.

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>AST is always giving you The Balance in the dungeon run
Thanks baby.

>>382152706
Level your other jobs right now.

>>382152557

>Giant shield/Energy Blast/Giant Axe goes flying to an enemy
>Ignore that
>Ignore Target of Target
>Blame the Tank

Yup, sounds about right.

>>382152975
heal is actually alright. Healing the party is like managing a mechanic of its own that prevents you from dpsing. I like it.

It's the tanks that are utterly boring.

>>382153062
How do I decide who to buff anyway?
Right now I'm just picking people at random.

>>382152827

>Too tunnelvision to glance and see what mob I'm using my single target shit on

Fuck you

>>382152812
>>382153018
The Zaela would work really well for astro, wouldn't they? They're religious, and a Mol in particular would be a great astro.

>get two dps classes to 70
>haven't finished the main story yet
i have a problem

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>>382152528
>assist tank as he pulls
>he constantly changes target

>>382153232
>Zaela
>Mol
literally who?

>>382153029
it sucks because your mount in hw zones is fucking slower than in arr zones until you unlock the normal speed again through the msq. if you had to do that once maybe it would have been alright, but no, they slow you down again and make you unlock THE NORMAL speed in every fucking zone

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>>382153062
>AST never gives you a card even when you're the same job as the other guy

It even happens when I'm out dpsing the other guy

>>382153140
When does heal become more than cast Protect, and then cure or medica the rest of the instance. I'm level 30 conjurer btw.

>>382152784
What the hell?

>Ala Mhigo dungeon
>2nd boss
>healer dies almost immediately because he can't understand going back to your body
>pld just heals himself through everything
Healers officially obsolete when

>>382153034
i am not talking about speeding up mounts more. in hw they slow your normal mount speed down until you unlock the normal speed again.

>>382153331
You get to add regen to that around level 40. Then your rotation is regen, then aero, then stone spam.

>>382152568
He just wanted a friend. He wanted to be the Vegeta to your Goku

>>382152809
>decide to take a tank to 70 as my first job in stormblood, pick WAR
>it's boring as fuck
>grab enemies, spam your aoe and use cooldowns, repeat

no wonder no one plays tanks

>>382153331
as soon as you get stone and aero

>>382153362

Shit man that was pretty fucking braindead

You even have a tether

>>382152975

The problem is that most of the time succeeding or failing in a dungeon will ultimately fall on the tank and healer. Lots of people don't want that stress.

And I know there are some fights with tight burn mechanics but most of the time it'll go to the tank and healer leading the way.

>>382153081
Like or not it's your job to let your party know who you are attacking fucker. It gets chaotic and they don't have time to click you to check your target, they have to focus on doing their job, damage. Mark your shit or stop bitching

>>382153331
When you start dpsing instead of being lazy

>>382153362
my group of friends did 3 DPS+PLD for every dungeon up to 70. Haven't tried the expert ones yet. We died a few times, and aoe heavy fights like bardam's mettle are rough, but it's possible.

>>382153180

>As if tanking wasn't easy enough, this guy can't even put down a single target symbol.

Fucking lol, do you just go afk?

>>382153280
The dark scale Au Ra. They're nomadic tribal people, separated into a bunch of different clans. They're a huge focus of stormblood around level 65-67.

>>382153405
I rarely use aero. Should I be using it more? I generally just spam stone II when I get the chance.

>>382152706
Get all Lakhsmi acc, Susano's weapon or level other classes

>>382153154
DPS meter?

>>382153547
depends on how quickly things are dying. if you're not going to get full use of the dot then better off with stone casting.

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>>382152568
>>382153419

>Give him such a satisfying fight he decides to kill himself since he'll never feel that good again for the rest of his life

I kinda wanna fugg my Warrior of Light, now.

>>382153521
>>382153426

I do that shit too, I'm asking when will my healer specific tasks increase. Buffs/debuffs...that sort of stuff.

>>382153353
What?

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>>382152809
>>382152975
>>382153062
>>382153081
>>382153140
>>382153154
>>382153180
>>382153269
>>382153273
>>382153362
>>382153521
Stfu and post soms zones, faggots. Take that other shit back to >>>/vg/

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>>382153559
>go do fights that you already did but with hp bloat and an extra retard check then you won't be bored!

>>382153547
dots in general are higher potency per gcd than any other damage dealing skill
obviously this isn't true if you clip them but i mean just don't do that

How strong is the WoL? Can they beat primals alone or not? The early primals are fought a few days after you get to Eorzea so you shouldn't have any friends to team up with, and you explicitly fought and killed the Knights of the Round by yourself, as well as Lakshmi, but then Susano says you have to team up with others because no one man can kill them despite you soloing plenty before. It makes no sense.

>>382153536

I'm not putting useless shit on my bar just because you're a retard

>>382153690
>Buffs/debuffs...that sort of stuff.
You don't get buffs unless you play AST and cleansing debuffs is just a very gimmicky thing that's not even needed every encounter.

Short answer: No.

>>382153403
Heavensward was on the PS3?

ARR was the only time this game actually felt incredible.

>>382153735
>only post screen shots, don't talk about the game
That's the >>>/vg/ thread though. Game discussion goes on /v/.

>>382153735
>literally playing on a toaster

>>382153765

You're never solo'ing them, you're fighting primals with 7 other people who have echo

>>382153735
They dont talk about the game on /vg/ though, they just post shitty cats.

>>382153745
>become instantly bored after realizing the only thing left is another tome grind
>try the post-game content
>don't wanna

That's how stupid you are

Also, I thought Yoshi only wanted

DPS to DPS,
tanks to tank, and
healers to heal.

>>382153714
What's this?

>>382153765
we're like a level higher than primal strong. because we are one.

>Alphy calling Zenos a coward and Lyse trying to stop him from killing himself
Fucking why, your little groups main objective in the assault was to kill him, not capture him, and then that idiot Lyse rambles something about justice like you were going to hold a trial or some shit

>>382153910
But you explicitly did fight the KotR by yourself, and Lakshmi as well.

>>382153995
Bloodthirsty ala mhiggers just wanted an execution. Bet they'll execute Fordola.

>>382153995
If he kills himself, he's doing it on his terms, and ultimately escaping punishment because he's doing what he wants. He should be executed by the people he trampled over.

>>382153990
Please let them do this.

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So what exactly happened here? Did something else hit him or was it just delayed damge and what was that little verse too?

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>>382153735
>Actually discussing the game = "other shit"
>"take that other shit to /vg/ and post moar screenshots of zones we've already seen a billion times!! xDd"

You know I think /vg/ would actually be a perfect fit for you, you'd like it there

>>382153536
>>382153510

>There are DPS that need to be spoonfed this fucking hard otherwise they sperg out
>They then wonder "WHERE ARE ALL THE TANKS AND HEALERS?!"

>>382153783
I feel like buffs/debuffs were a big part of FFXI.

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>>382149991
You needed Hraesvlgr's help to beat Nidhogg.
There isn't much the WoL does without a party/small army to help him.

>>382153990
Well that's already wrong. You have the power of Echo, which is already more powerful than primal powers. Please pay fucking attention in the cut scenes.

>>382150025
Man, the lighting is such shit in this game. Either your character is light-polluted and looks like complete shit or there's not enough and you're just sitting in a shadow as if there were no shaders on you at all.

>>382153690
astro gives people buffs, scholar has a few select buffing/debuffing abilities
conjurer/whm just heals people and throws rocks, for the most part. it's not a bad class by any means but if you're looking for something outside of those two things, look elsewhere

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>>382153976
TERA

>>382154138
You're the one sperging out lmao

You don't even want to do your job then blame others when you fuck your party over and they rip aggro

The average intelligence of a tank everyone

>>382154230
That's exactly why i said level higher, but i guess that's understating it

>>382154125
>What was that little verse?
You remembering the poem Urianger recited.
You chipped his helm and it took a while for the piece to fall off, yes.

>>382147841
>Heavensward was pretty fucking shit too
I liked the Sea of Clouds and Azys Lla

Shit, I like all of them over Stormblood's garbage zones. 3 boring deserts, an empty ocean, a field with a bowl, and a hint of China with extra repeating textures.

>>382154263
What's the most interesting healer class? I just started 3 weeks ago, and I mainly want to stick to the magic classes. My first DPS class will be BLM.

>>382148461
>>382148623
I am reminded why I turned off the glow effect.

>>382154468
WHM

>>382153154
I go by gear level mixed with how they play. Also depends on tank, how many mobs at once, boss, and so forth.

>>382154468
I like WHM because you actually get to contribute to party dps yourself.

AST probably has the most interesting mechanics though imo

>>382153686
>he hasn't wanted to fug his WoL for years
>he doesn't think about the lack of attention the WoL receives from his/her peers, and how not even Lyse will give you a goddamn hug

>>382154468
AST by far

The cards force you to not go braindead 24/7. The other two you can autopilot

>>382154125
>>382154395

I thought it was Yuugiri throwing a dagger and it just bouncing off.

>>382154468
SCH but they nerfed it too hard

>>382153995
He got to kill mhiggers for years and took away the one thing Lyse wanted.
Truly a ruse master

>>382154116
>execute Fordola
>after Lyse was reeeeeeeing about how theres a different way to do things
I can see them making Lyse a total hypocrite but no one calling her on it

>>382154116

>Executing female Sasuke

Good. Worst fucking character they've introduced. Nothing about her is redeemable

>Ugly
>Shit attitude
>Shit motives
>Shit everythiung

>>382153735
silly anon

/vg/ isn't for gameplay discussion

what's the /v/erdict on tanks, /v/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOKdznrs8zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8abwFUHwNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ROJox-klN4
opinions from an actual good player.

>>382153289
you were never that fast in the first fucking place when on the ground.

>>382154590
>ast
>more interesting than whm and sch
lmao
all healer classes are easy as fuck

>>382154412
Azys Lla's structures look cool but that septic tank filter can fuck right off

>>382154592
I think they were going for an anime style "thing doesnt happen until later cause you did a ton of damage" instance

Like when two samurai are facing off and strike at each other, and one falls down a few seconds later

>>382152152
You're remembering it wrong. DPS queues for a lot of levelling duties during early HW were instant, because there were so many Dark Knights. Healer queues for Expert Roulettes and easy-mode raids were longer than DPS queues for most of the expansion.

>>382154863

well, how could they make healer classes more challenging?

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>>382154795
I'd rather wait for the Larryzaur video before I make my decision.

>>382154765
I've never known Sasuke but she seemed to have okay motives. She and the skulls unit were born into a empire and treated as lessers. They wanted to become more than slaves. So they worked for it instead of chimping out like the rest of the mhiggers.

>>382154953
FUCK OFF, NOCLIPSHILL

>>382154913
>Healer queues for Expert Roulettes and easy-mode raids were longer than DPS queues for most of the expansion.
to be fair

MCH was an incredibly shitty DPS class and nobody wanted to play them

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>>382154765
>ugly

>>382154589
>Basically Homeless
>Every new place they go, people treat them with suspicion no matter what they've done.
>In spite of saving the world many times, they're still requested to do mundane crap.
>No one will fug them. Or even give them so much as a gentle pat on the back
>Feel obligated to do everything because the deity of all creation decided they could handle it, even though she herself has trouble dealing with shit.
Being the WoL is suffering.

>finally get to heavensward after grinding MSQ as new player
>suddenly everybody's english VA got changed for the worse

uhh

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>>382155014
MAKE ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0yQKI7Yw4

>>382154795
WAR needs some help overall but the class isnt broken by any means

PLD is in a good place because it just fixed everything that made it worse in comparison to DRK

DRK is fun and only needs some tweaks to really make it the middle ground tank between WAR and PLD

All in all, theyre fine

How come everyone's hands look super weird in cutscenes? They're like TF2 hands. I'll see if I can pull up a screenshot.

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>>382155120
Yea, we were all upset about that.

>>382153776
>>382154138

Of course, if the tank was actually good it wouldn't matter whether I was hitting a different add than your 'main one' anyway, but since you seem to need the crutch and you're the one already targeting the thing you want hit, why not pretend it's an oGCD and hit that shit.

>>382155001

>Garlean attitude on Mhigger hasn't changed in 20 years
>"B-B-B-BUT IF WE CONTINUE TO SUCK THEIR COCKS THEY'LL TREAT US AS EQUALS"

She's an idiot who just likes to lash out and kill people

>>382155120
You will get used to them are realized the new vas are better, especially alphinaud.

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>>382155181
They got nerfed with 2.0.

>>382155080
It was really cool when your WoL protects Alph and co. from Lakshmi's tempering, though. It's like you let them into your little godly bubble just for a second.

>>382155001
>worked for it
No wonder the rest of the mhiggers hated them, you know how they feel about working

>>382155262
>chimp out for 2 decades
>wow how come they treat us like shit?
It's the mhiggers fault really. Those who assimilate are treated well.

>>382153995
Those scions faggots totally ruined his death, i will always be mad

>>382155120
>worse
You mean, better in every conceivable way?
It's jarring because you're probably used to ARR's VAs, but the studio they've used from HW and onward is a thousand times better and more fitting for the game.

>>382155379
muh freedumbs

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>>382155310
>the new vas are better

>>382155379

>Those who assimilate are treated well

Not at all, literally everybody but Zenos shittalks her and the Skulls

>>382155313
The models were more detailed in 1.0, but god damn if that lighting isn't hot ass.
Not that 2.0's lighting is a lot better.

>>382155128
>PLD is in a good place because it just fixed everything that made it worse in comparison to DRK
I'm still kind of sad you don't use your meter till level 52. Also, I would love for PLD to have some unique skills for Sword Oath, maybe reducing Circle of Scorn CD but making it cost Sword Oath gauge.

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>>382147841
Despite the autistic process of getting to it, Shisui is an absolute visual spectacle from the way the entire environment darkens and it gradually reveals itself
Field with a bowl was fucking garbage but there are some neat caverns at the far end of the map
The Fringe has some interesting minor areas like Bittermill and the spoopy forest
Kugane is better than most of the city states. Colorful, actually has a sensible layout and no gay scene divisions

Burning wall is still the best zone in the game though

>>382155507
Only admiral bloofishswaggerer is bad

>>382150926
Same in the new residential area too.

Fucking BS.

Did they ever change the male elezen running and walking animations? They were so strange and outright goofy when I played one in HW

You now remember what happened to Yugiris old VA and her kids

>>382155120

>Raubahn is sean bean lite
>Alphinaud actually sounds his age

Nah

>>382155379
>Those who assimilate are treated well.
I think you maybe missed...literally every cutscene involving them interacting.

>>382155571
>Circle of Scorn will never be a gauge dump skill
>you'll never drop five Circles of Scorn on someone
Feels genuinely awful.

>>382155507
Yes, that's what he said and they are. Problem?

I don't understand smn now at lv.60 with no aetherflow stacks during DWT, when do I pop tridisaster, and when i've popped it in DWT since it resets then I exit and I have no stacks and I have nothing to aoe with so feels like i'm wasting time.

what's rotation/opener?

>>382155573
It's kinda sad to think that they featured that dungeon in the SB movie, but it's just a throwaway level 63 dungeon.

Just finished SB. Didn't even realize it was over until the credits started rolling. Why was this story for bland? Shit kept happening too fast, travelling too much, didn't spend any time really with any characters. All it was good for was Lyse ass bones.

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>>382155628

>>382154795
>30 minute videos

do you really need that much time on each one even if you're rambling?

>>382155667
Circle of Scorn looks fucking sick. I wish it was spammable.

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>>382153765
We're pretty strong, this is from the SMN quest-line
It pained me to crop out my character because i love her so much, but i won't /vg/ post

>>382155642

oh they changed raubahn too? I liked his vulcan-raven tier voice, hopefully it's still good.

>>382155379
>Those who assimilate are treated well.
>constantly called a savage by everyone but zenos and gets the implication she fucked him for her command
>the moment she speaks up another soldier tells her to shut the fuck up about it
>first cutscene with the skulls has them complain that everyone looks down on them
>her wish is to make everyone who ever looked down on her pay, meaning that she's been suffering it all her life

No, they were not.

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>>382155379
>slaves should just be nice to their masters and stop resisting
you're trying too hard to be an edgy contrarian, you need to probably stop visiting 4chan.

>>382155628
Which was?

>>382155642
New Alphinaud sounds garbage. Really hard to like him post ARR because of it.

>>382155704
it's even a side dungeon
I hope it gets a HM

>>382155780
They switched to brit bong actors. Expect to hear Shulk, Fiora, Souls game guys etc.

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>pld used to be good at pvp
>it sucks now
>drk used to be meh
>it is now broken
"unmend u and stun u in my team"

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>>382155774
Is this cause of Hydaelyn's tempering or are we just Mothercrystal in human form?

>>382155628
Her ARR VA was good, then Sian Blake the HW one who barely spoke was shit, glad she fucking died.

>>382155834
Yugiri's VA was murdered.

Just hit Shinryu

Can I pug it and clear first try or will I be in for a shitshow

>Play PvP
>Skills auto change to the next in rotation without taking up a space
Is there a way to do this in the real game? Seems nifty for clearing up space.

>>382155884
PLD is still fine in PVP, though I wouldn't ever try to take on a ranged enemy solo.

>>382155628
HW VA THAT VOICED LITERALLY 3 LINES GET OVER IT ALREADY

>>382155704
>>382155856
I know that feel. Why the fuck did the feature it like it was key to the story? I thought I was going to fight Yotsuyu in her demon primal form or some shit. I don't even remember the bosses. Some generic monster blobs or something. Thanks Yoshi.

>>382155774
Never played SMN so I missed it, but thanks. I wish they'd pick whether or not we're meant to be this unstoppable, one man army that kills gods by themselves, or we're just shitters who call up friends for everything. The main story at least leans the first way, it's only in quest logs that they imply otherwise, but I don't know why they even bother.

>>382155834
Killed by her husband and buried in the garden.

>>382155941

Most trial rouletters know it well enough by now. Its an intimidating fight at first, but mechanically its about as hard as Ultima 1 in Praetorium

>>382155941
A bit of both probably. Good luck.

How is tank DPS atm?

any numbers for all 3 jobs at 300+ ilvl?

Haven't seen this discussed

>>382155780
Everyone changed because they switched to a britbong studio. Honestly the only real loss is Gideon Emery as Urianger, everyone else I find better.

>>382153910
Canonically, the WoL beat Ifrit, Titan, Garuda, Thordan, Lakshmi and a few others solo.

>>382152975
>claims people want interesting classes
>meanwhile DPS queues are still as clogged with BLMs as ever
Hmm.

>>382156012
The Ruby Princess was hot as fuck.

Right now, I'm leveling botanist, miner, and fisher simultaneously. What can I do to alleviate the boredom/speed up the leveling?

>>382156019
She must have been a cheating whore then if that happened in Japan. Good riddance.

>>382155941
It's a bit of a crapshoot.
My first two parties ran out the timer, while the third did it perfectly in one go.

>>382155834
Beaten to death by her ex boyfriend, he then murdered her kids because they had just seen their mother beaten to death in front of them

>>382156048
Honestly almost dead even, when played right.

>>382156135
Not level all three at the same time.

>>382156102
Weird. I could count on one hand how many black mages I've come across at level 70.