Why haven't you bought an AMD Ryzen central processing unit

Because they're terrible for vidya

I have a [email protected].

>>382145320
cause this is a video game board

>>382145320
amd is not for the master race you cunt

I'm getting one next week, but for some reason all AM4 motherboards I've been looking into seem to have shitty reviews.

>>382145320
but I did

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>>382145320
got it weeks ago

>>382145410
Why are you lying?

>>382145320
I'm going to be buying a 6700k skymeme tomorrow. sorry amd

>>382145642
oc that bad boy

What's a good fucking cooler that comes with AM4 brackets right out of the box? Fuck that ordering them separately shit. Don't have the patience for it.

>>382145536
It's probably because the initial BIOS for everything was trash. You basically have to flash it to make Ryzen usable. Look for one with at least AGESA 1.0.0.4, preferably 1.0.0.6.

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>>382145715
>buying a corelet CPU for a dead socket
why would you do this?
even if you're an intel fanboy you know that Intel are moving towards higher core counts.
I mean sure Skylake and Kabylake X is housefire garbage but Coffee Lake could still be decent, don't fucking buy some outdated garbage.

>>382145771
i'm waiting on a new fan for my 212 from my old build, afraid to OC on the wraith spire because it's already pretty loud

>>382145953
Coffee Lake is confirmed LGA 1151 already, although it's unknown if it will be fully backwards compatible with Z170 and Z270 yet.

>>382145923
Is this decent? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y2G6NXV/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

>>382145971
>afraid to OC on the wraith spire because it's already pretty loud
you probably have problems then because the wraith spire is quiet as fuck and perfectly good for OCing.
I am sitting right next to my PC and can't hear it.

It's possible your CPU is running hotter than normal, I read some people had their bios automatically set the voltage too high giving them terrible temps out of the box.

>>382145894
Noctua has a few that work out of the box with AM4.

>>382145923
Flashing the BIOS is easy though. Gigabyte even has a desktop program to do it that I used on my B350.

>>382145410
good goy

I did get one.

I haven't had any trouble playing vidya with it yet, my only regret was that it made getting windows 7 to run on it was a fucking nightmare.

>>382146379
MSI has this too, I'm pretty sure it's the standard now.
I'd still prefer to do it from the bios itself though.

I really want to buy a new PC today but I'm probably going to wait for Coffee-lake and see how it turns out. All I care about is games performance but I also don't want to buy a 4Core CPU this far into the year.

It'll either be a R7 1700 or a 6core coffee-lake with a 1080ti.

>building ddr4 in the current market
No thanks, I don't want to spend $100 for 8gb thanks to the nand shortage.

>>382146502
decent game plan.

>>382146246
That's the one I have. The hardware is ok but unfortunately overclocking is a bit gimped. It's offset only, no manually typing in voltages, also no LLC. VRM's get a bit toasty above 1.4v. If you're not a hardcore overclocker it works fine though, managed to set up a Ryzen virtual machine with very few issues on the latest BIOS.

>>382145320
Got other things I need to be spending my money on at the moment, brochacho. Ryzen Gen2 might be out by the time I'm able to upgrade my shit. And who knows, at that point, maybe Intel will finally have reasonable prices on all their products, not just the Bentium G4560.

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>mfw i5 6600k

Who 4 core / 4 thread here?

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>>382146506
>mfw I spent $144 on 16GB 2400Mhz CAS15 ram

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But I did.
And Speccy won't measure the Ryzen's temperature for some reason.

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>>382146820

I wish I had a 2 TB SSD.

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>>382146713
I used to be a corelet too and it was fine but god damn having the extra headroom to run things while gaming is nice as fuck.
All the same my i5 3570k served me well, I'm still tossing up whether to sell it or maybe build a server with it.

>>382145320
How good is a Ryzen 1600 + GTX 1070 combo?

>>382146573
What would be a better choice if you do want to get good overclock?

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>>382146820
I never noticed it doesn't measure the temperature.

I think the fact that it thinks I have two CPUs has been distracting me.

>>382147041
It's masterrace.

>>382145410
lol wrong

>>382147146

Geeze anon, how come you get to have TWO CPUs?

>>382147121
Unfortunately the Gaming 5 and K7 appear to be the only Gigabyte boards with decent overclocking utilities right now, and those are expensive. I heard Asus makes the best Ryzen boards right now. Stay away from Biostar and MSI right now, their software support isn't as good as Asus, Asrock and Gigabyte yet.

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>>382145410
>>382147164
the only gaymen when it really falls short is some forms of emulation that only use one core.
If you're building a PC only to play Cemu then an intel machine is probably what you want.
Even so my 1600 still runs Cemu a lot better than my 3570k did so it's not exactly terrible.

>>382147154
>1070
>master race
Enjoy spending more for it over a 1080 :^)

>>382147595

What do you mean?

Should I get a 1800x or wait for Coffee Lake?

>>382147708
GTX 1070 prices have been inflating like crazy lately. I bought my 1080 for a cheaper price than most of the 1070s

>>382147708
Pretty much a worldwide GPU shortage, everything is sold out or overpriced.

>>382147831

Oh. Well, I already own my 1070.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zwyM7h

>>382145715
https://hothardware.com/news/critical-flaw-in-intel-skylake-and-kaby-lake-hyperthreading-discovered-requiring-bios-microcode-fix
>trusting intel

>>382147415
the IPC for ryzen is exactly the same as broadwell E

its literally not bad
>>382147735
Get 1600 and in a year you can ugprade to zen 2 if you want

>>382145320
Because I'm poor and hoping blizzard or pcgaymer will give me a high end peecee for "free" from their giveaways.

>>382145715
i bought a 6700k in march. its my first computer build in 3 years, my last being a fx6300. it feels nice, but i do kinda regret not spending ike 30 bucks more for a 7700k. no actual complaints yet, but i do think i fucked up on my motherboard choice. fucking mini piece of shit with 1 pci-e slot, 2 ram slots, and 2 sata 6gbs. anyway you should enjoy youre 6700k anon, unless youre just shit posting.

>tfw you have a crosshair motherboard
>tfw you'd probably have to buy new board, grafics card and cpu

>>382147994
It look s pretty good. Hogh speed RAM is good for Ryzen. Is that an old GPU? Sucks that the GPU market is a shitshow right now.

>>382147831
>this meme again
Google giving me hundreds of 1070s for $500

>>382148478
that's really bad though anon

>>382148478
They're only worth $350 retail, 1080's are supposed to be $500.

>>382145320
Biggest meme in 2017

All the shilling

All the influencing

and the 7700k is still the highest selling CPU 3-4 months after release date

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>>382148609
>shilling
these shills turned their back on intel, face it the age of incremental upgrade monopoly is over

>>382148478
>everything is a meme

>>382148404
Yeah it's older but I don't think I'll invest in VR just yet so might as well play stuff on at least High settings now

can anyone recommend a build/combination for someone who hasn't built a computer in 4-5 years?

I'm still running an i7-2900, no reason to upgrade

>>382148891
a 1600+480/1060 is the current meme option of choice for people who just want to play games at 1080p while doing other shit and have a decent upgrade path.

But with GPU prices now you're fucked anyway.

So how long is this GPU shortage bullshit going to last anyway? Until the end of the year?

>>382149290
considering Asus is going to start selling cards marketed towards miners, it could be a while...

>>382146820
>>382147146
Do yu have an X model? I read that Speccy doesn't read the temps for unlocked CPUs

What's a good gpu for steady, max settings 60fps 1440p?

>>382149551
The GTX 1070 is the perfect card for 1440p. Unfortunately, the GPU market is fucked so you'll have to spend a lot more money than normal for one

>>382145953
I got a z170a for free and I need to move on frorm my amd phenom II x 955. Skylake seemed like my best choice as I don't know if the z170a has the bios update that would let me use some of the newer cpus.

>>382148541
>>382148583
Prices haven't noticeably changed on amazon UK. the 1080 and 1080 Ti which are supposedly unaffected by the supposed shortage are still around 700$ and 800$ respectively. 1070 is going for 500$.

>>382149551
1070 I guess.
The 1060 and 480 are marketed as 1440p cards but if you want actual max settings in modern games at constant 60fps they're probably not going to be enough.
I mean there are lots of modern games that they would be enough for, for example Battlefireld 1 and Doom would be steady 60 maxed at 1440 but I don't want to get your expectations too high.

Already bought a Ryzen 7 about 2 months ago

>>382145715
I have it, so far it's amazing for gaming as well as rendering.

>>382146246
The gaming 5 is much better
The K5 sucks ass

>>382149551
Get a used 980 Ti or Fury X, that or a 1070.

>>382149857
that's still higher than it should be.
I could get a 1070 a few months ago for $450 ausbucks which is about $350 US.
The launch RRP of the 1070 was $379 US

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>>382145715
>tomorrow
>he didnt buy it last summer when price was rock bottom

one of the best gaming cpus on the market and will be for a decade. no so good for streaming though.

>>382146502
Just get a 1700
Coffee lake will just be another skylake rebrand with slightly higher clockspeeds and maybe a 2% increase in IPC

>>382145320
You know, vega's gonna be good.
Especially since it'll out last nvidia's shit, because they'll fucking gimp it.

>>382146287
Second on wraithspire. I keep it on full blast this thing is whisper quiet. my pc has 200mm fans and the Wraithspire cooler all on full blast I can hardly hear it 4 feet away. Temps are ~45c in a 90f room always.

>>382149731
>>382149937
>>382150119
Thanks, lads.

>>382147994
Don't get the supernova NEX
Overpriced shit

>>382149551
>max settings
faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ZsaavKNR8

>>382149546
Must be amd specific, works fine with intel k models

>>382150443
>2cucksphilip

>>382145320
Because I don't feel like replacing my motherboard for some meme processor

>>382150443
High settings work too.

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>>382145536
>>382145564
>>382145642
>>382145681
>>382145771
>>382145894
>>382145953
>>382145971
>>382146287
>>382146443
>>382146470
>>382146820
>>382146958
>>382147146
>>382147154
>>382147164
>>382147415
>>382147994
>>382148197
>>382148404
>>382148751
>>382148868
>>382149160
>>382149976
>he fell for the ryzen meme that i started

>>382145320
But I did, runs well. I payed 200 no tax for r5 1600 and a mobo combo. Found some 3000mhz ddr4 on clearance for 60 per 16gb. Runs super cool and quiet.

>>382150731
RX580/GTX 1060 6GB (get a 580 if both are at a similar price) or GTX1070
1080 if you don't want to upgrade for quite some time
But right now you need to look for decent deals as miningfags fucked up the GPU market

>>382151052

Microcenter?

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>>382145320
>Why haven't you bought an AMD Ryzen central processing unit for your computer yet?
Picrel is my computer.

>>382145320

IRL the 7700k absolutely shits all over the 1700X in real videogames and is cheaper. The 1700X is about on par with a 2600k in gaming. Great and an amazing value at heavily threaded things, but videogames aren't heavily threaded things.

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/26/definitive_amd_ryzen_7_realworld_gaming_guide/1

>>382151515
The FX8350 was already on par with the i7 2600k

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>>382151515

>R5 1600 @ 3.9ghz
>GTX 1060 6gb
Did I do gud?

>>382151515
I hate how they always bench the 7700K at 5GHz as if that's a common overclock. The average person will need watercooling to get Kaby Lake to 5GHz, while Ryzen can overclock to 4GHz on air easily.

>>382151949
Is it really necessary to overclock it? I noticed it overclock itself under load anyway

But yes you did good, enjoy well paced 60FPS everything

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>>382145320
maybe in 2-3 years if they are still ahead of intel as they are now by then
my old ass CPU still have some life left in it

>>382152245
Intel and AMD's turbo boosts usually overclock one or two cores automatically. While that's useful in single threaded applications, you're better off just overclocking every core manually since turbo doesn't work perfectly every time, especially on Windows where it shifts loads to different cores randomly.

>>382152245
Not really, but its easy so you can always overclock if you feel like it
Running a 1700 3.2Ghz @ 0.972V here
No need for more performance right now
Stock cooler will allow for up to about 3.7Ghz

I got a 7600k doing 4.5GHz and 1060gtx and even though it's quad core I'm really happy with it. I just don't trust AMD, they always have had such amazing numbers even a decade ago in pure specs, but in reality when they run they still don't go as far as you would expect and barely still fall behind despite having such a boon in pure power. It's also nice to have one of the best processors for activities that require/use quads.

>>382150443
>7 minutes of some guy trying to convince himself he didn't waste his money on a monitor he didn't have a decent enough graphics card for

Faggot

>>382152976
you're not allowed to talk bad about amd on this website anymore

>>382152597
>>382152702
I see, thanks.
I'd overclock, but I also don't want to lose the automatic underclocking when the cpu isn't doing anything either.
I don't want to be at 3.9Ghz when I just shitpost on /v/

>>382153192
>but I also don't want to lose the automatic underclocking when the cpu isn't doing anything either
Not that relevant on a desktop
Difference in power draw is like 7W
Less if undervolted, more if overvolted

>>382152976

I'm gonna splurge on an 1800x even though I have a perfectly serviceable i7, but I'm concerned for the future. Ryzen looks fantastic, but they're still behind intel no matter what way you cut it and we don't really know what's coming. I don't want to end up MOAR CORES bulldozer 2.0

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>falling for AMD meme

L M A O

>>382148197
Ryzen has better IPC than Kaby Lake. What it doesn't have is the C part of the equation. The mobile-centric process makes it super efficient at lower clocks, but makes it not clock very high.

>>382153076
>t. post post unironic-ironic shitposter

>>382153601
>t. shitposter

>>382153192
You don't lose that, it is called Pstates, P0 is max performance and it can have many Pstates as the processor power is demanded

>>382153434
that's false as shit though

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>>382153646
don't worry, your false flagging is subtle enough

>>382149739
You can use Kabylake but not with its full features. I can't remember wich ones.

>>382153434
Nvidia make CPUs now?

>>382153389
Ryzen is what Bulldozer should have been. The issues was they had 8 cores, but 4 modules that had 2 cores each. So if a program bottlenecked the pipeline to one core, the other would be fucked as well, similar to how hyperthreading works. SO in reality AMD's "8-core" performed like it had 4 cores and 8 threads, so an i7. Except Intel's IPC was dramatically better so it couldn't beat an i7 despite a much faster clockspeed. Ryzen mostly fixes that by using their "Infinity Fabric," which doesn't bottleneck modules anymore, so each core can act like a real core. This also makes Zen extremely scalable, which is why Threadripper and Epyc are so cheap.

>>382153742
just make sure you finally buy a toilet with that money you're getting, pajeet

>>382149551
1070 is the sweetspot. But prices rised a lot lately so it is not a smartbuy for now.

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>>382153840
good, keep it up

>>382145320
Because that would involve upgrading to DDR4 as well, and fuck those prices right now.

>>382149937
For old games, maybe, but new games will not run well on both cards if played above 1080p.

I'd have to spend like 400 bucks to get something with the same single thread performance as my 250 dollar intel CPU from 2012. Most vidya games I play still depend on single thread performance.

Like, if you're on a budget and want something that'll last go ahead since the insane multithreading bang for buck will be awesome a few years from now when everything's properly multithreaded but for now my 4 core intel CPU is still doing fine. Battlefield 1 is the only game I've played where I've felt like it's actually been pushed.

i have an [email protected] and 2400mhz ddr3

i'm thinking of upgrading to the ryzen 1600(non x) + b350 asrock fatal1ty motherboard and 3000mhz Crucial ddr4

is there an intel build that delivers the same performance for 450€

genuinely curious, i don't mind doing the switch for intel but the frequency that intel changes sockets scares me because every upgrade will force me to buy a new motherboard

Already have 7600k/1070. Bought the 1070 a while ago for like $370 after rebate.

because i'm poor and my "computer" is a laptop with a fucked keyboard i put on my desk and hook up to external inputs/outputs. to plug in my headphones without the bevel getting in the way I have to sit the laptop on top of a cardboard box and hang the left side over the edge, and every time i turn it off/on i have to open it up.

>>382153389

I'm not an AMD so there are gaps in my knowledge, but how come you have a perfectly servicable i7 but are gonna splurge when you don't know what's coming?

Also why does Ryzen appeal to you when you can get a Intel Hex Core i7 7800X or for more $$$ a Intel 8 Core i7 7820X? It's expensive and industry techs might have trouble getting everything ready for them, but while they are extremely new, I think it's granted they will clobber the AMD stuff no? If Intel anything does anything of similar spec quality they usually will end up destroying them on real performance in my experience.

>>382153993

That's what he said

>>382149551
I got two R9 390 and a 1440p most games run at 100+

Still running a 4790k and a 980ti and I'm perfectly fine with it.
When the next upgrade cycle comes around I'm calling it quits. I'll go back to console before i try Windows 10 again.

>>382153792
Would I be able to update and make full use of it?

>>382153434
>people unironically fall for these kinds of chart.

>>382153671
You CAN do that, but its kind of a hassle
Only really recommend doing this if running at 1.3V or above
Or if you're bored

>>382155063
No, they don't

>>382154520

It's a 4790k, it performs well but it's a dead end for upgrading and my motherboard is a bit faulty anyway so it could use replacing.

I'm falling for the meme and putting my faith in AMD since they generally support their sockets a bit longer and I'm hoping to have more options in the future. Whether any of these potential future options are any good or even exist is another thing.

>>382145320
Because I will never fall for AMD shilling ever again. Fucking piece of shit FX-8350 was

>>382155446
>talking trash about the 8350
>mine still allows me to play new games above 60fps with a 290

maybe you're just bad at computors my friend.

>>382155550
amdorks reddit space

>>382155643
>formatting your posts is now reddit

>>382155718
An easy way to spot a ledditor is if he thinks reddit invented properly formatting your post.

>>382155440

Yeah a faulty motherboard is hell, but if you are basically upgrading your motherboard too why not wait just a month? You'll probably get the info you need.

It's nice that AMD does support sockets a little while longer, but if you dish out big bucks like on that 8-core Intel Extreme do you really plan on really switching your CPU in the next 5 years? There's a reason it's crazy high end. I'm not trying to sway you just wondering, I'm happy with my 7600k and won't make another computer for like 5ish years.

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>>382145320
i would if they were any decent mini-itx AM4 boards. the only one is by fucking biostar. seriously what's up with that?

>>382155718
>>382155932
>samefagging to defend your faggy, unnecessary spacing
just stop

>>382156285
what do you mean "unnecessary space just stop" ?

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>>382156285

>>382156446
don't feed the moron

>>382155550
Please don't defend Bulldozer or Piledriver, They were bad compared to Sandy and Ivy.

>>382145320
im on the fence here atm. I really want a ryzen cpu, but that would also mean that i would need a compatible motherboard and DDR4 ram sticks, and possibly a new fan for the cpu as well.. It gets expensive fast.

>>382156209
They're all coming soon™. I think the problem was the socket is bigger than Intel's.

>>382156446
wow, raj knows how to edit markup
must be a real hacker. how many years of school did it take to learn that?

>>382156735
they are bad but not as bad as people make them, specially because idiots always paired them with slow ass memory.

>>382156812
i'm looking for a 450€ upgrade for a R5 1600 with the cheapest 3000mhz 8GB DDR4

i'm expecting AMD keeps doing what they've always done and keep the sockets compatible with the previous ones for a while.

my main issue with intel is that they change the fucking socket every few weeks and upgrades are always expensive.

also you always have to pay extra both on motherboards and CPU to be able to fiddle with frequencies and voltages.

>>382152236
DELID THIS

My latest AMD CPU is a Phenom II X4 810 and my experience with it wasn't the best.

>>382157370
>my latest cpu is old as fuck and not very powerful and i'm surprised it doesn't perform well

no shit

>>382157524

how

do

you

even

get

so

retarded

?

>>382157370
>8 year old chip
>doesn't hold up

gee, i wonder why.

dumbass

>>382155550
>maybe you're just bad at computors my friend.
>purchased i5-4690k, old intel shit
>runs better
I bet you are the type that overclock FX-8350 and say "WOAH NIGGA, IT RUNS VERY WELL"

>>382157524
>>382157694
No, it was quite powerful and very cheap in 2009, when I bought it. So powerful actually that AMD quickly canceled the 810 model, because it wasn't really slower than the much more expensive 900 series (5-10 % difference in practice).
However the stability wasn't the best, the AMD chipsets sucked balls (and power) and were full of weird bugs (like HPET broken).
And the electricity bill canceled all savings, so I would have done better with an even faster Core2 in the end paired with an Intel chipset.
Back then I was too impressed by the Athlon64 era. The Phenom II got replaced by a Xeon E3-1230v2 later, which is still more than fast enough with its 8 threads.

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Why would I waste my hard earned money on extra weaker cores, when games nowadays only use max 4 cores? You amd shills are disgusting.

>>382158285
oh my bad anon, the way you worded your post i thought you had just got it.

>>382158603
You can't get it anymore, the model is discontinued since 2010.

my 3770k doesn't bottleneck my 980ti so i'm quite happy with it
might get Zen+ in a few years though

>>382158558
Better framepacing and a cpu that doesn't catch fire when playing vidya, you dumb ugly slut.

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>>382145320
why dont you guys just get an Epyc xD

>>382158558
>"when games nowadays only use max 4 cores?"
Why don't people realize the only reason games don't use more than 4 cores was because anything more than 4 cores on Intel was exorbitantly expensive? Gamers can't afford 6 core CPU's from Intel, not the 6 cores on Westmere in 2010, and not even now on Skylake-X. After Bulldozer flopped Intel kept everything higher than 4C8T on the expensive, enthusiast platform. It is 100% Intel's fault that games are so slow to adapting to more cores. For really the first time with Ryzen, 6 cores is entirely affordable to your average PC gamer.

>>382158558
>dude you only need 4GB of ram, the 750ti will never be obsolete, why would anyone need an SSD?

>>382160852
>Why don't people realize the only reason games don't use more than 4 cores was because anything more than 4 cores on Intel was exorbitantly expensive?

Wrong. The limit on cores was a direct result of console development. Games are designed around the console first then ported over to PC. Until recently consoles only had 4 CPU cores.

>>382158558
vulkan and dx12 are changing that
also the ryzen ones are pretty cheap compared to the intel counterparts

>>382145320
Currently waiting for July price drops. Sold my PC last month. Has been absolute Hell.

>>382161151
The PS4 and Xbone came out in 2013 and had 8 cores, yet Haswell-E and Broadwell-E still charged $400-600 for a 6-core, on an LGA 2011-v3 board which is of course more expensive than consumer boards. Again, it was simply financially infeasible for anyone to game on more than 4 cores so why would game devs bother? Intel's been holding the desktop market back due to lack of competition.

>>382147735
There is literally no reason to own a 1800X for the price vs the 1700X which can OC to literally JUST under the 1800X oc. The 1800x is literally for people who don't give a fuck about money and offers almost no advantage over the 1700X.