The Souls franchise is easily the most overrated franchise in

>>382139616
It's not only the gameplay, it's also the lore and map design (personally).
I honestly don't follow the lore that much, but it has a dark interesting vibe to it which makes these games different than the others.
Also the boss fights, i find them interesting. In bloodborne they are indeed always the same. But in dark souls they have very different combat abilities. The way they present themselfs like you're just a fly to squash. To me this is what made dark souls great.

>>382139616
>The fighting system is clunky and unresponsive

How? Buttons work fine for me.

>>382140275
It's slow and it feels like theres a big delay in everything you do. Even if it's ''designed'' that way it still doesn't make it good.

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>>382139616
Only played Bloodborne and was sorely disappointed. Both in regards to game play and challenge.

As a more mature gamer I really need some form of challenge in the game to keep me entertained but this is laughably so easy.

I platinumed it in 10 days, went in blind and never having played a Souls game before.

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>>382140925
>cheating makes games easy

No shit

>>382140550
which one are you talking about?
i know 1 responds a bit 'meh' in a way, because it's old.
2 is indeed made to feel even worse than that.
3 works perfectly fine, small flaws here and there.

>>382139616
>Really not much RPG about it, it's super linear and repetitive.
Ok, don't really agree that it is linear or repetitive but maybe you could make the argument...

>The fighting system is clunky and unresponsive, and it is not hard in a way that the game actually has intelligent AI or requires planning in any way. What makes it "hard" is again, the clunky combat.

AHAHAHAHA another shitter. You are bad at video games.

>>382140925
go ahead and try dark souls 1 boy. Bloodborne is nothing

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>>382140986
I platinumed it in 10 days.

I saved in the cloud to minimise the tedium.

>>382140925
judging from the filename that's not your picture
and the guy who took the picture cheated to get the different endings

>>382141257
>I cheated

Yes that's my point

>>382141037
All of em although I do agree 3 has it less than the others.

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>>382139616
Fuck off drone!!!


Also why's is Bloodborne in this picture? That game is one of the best game ever, and it will win the game of the decade award in 2020

>>382139616
They're overrated for sure but they aren't that bad dude. Its just a normal 7/10 series

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>>382140925

>>382139616
Agreed completely. Bloodborne was the only tolerable one for me.

>>382139616
Sony Shills gonna shill bro

>>382141397
Not him but how is reloading a save cheating?

>>382139992

nah, you're just riding that neogaf hype train like a bitch

the game sucks ass, dude
it really does

>>382139616
I wouldn't say overrated, I'd say Over saturated. Imagine if it was only Demons, Dark, and Bloodborne.

>>382141312
They're my fucking trophies dick head.

I reached the very end, realised how close I was to platinum so saved in the cloud to minimise the boredom of having to run through more times than necessary.

I'd already eaten the umbilical cords or whatever the were, so had to do NG+ for the platinum, which I did in about 3 hours.

>>382141714
>how is savescuming in a game that auto-saves every 30 seconds cheating

Gee I dunno

>>382141397
See
>>382142047

Say what you want, I platinumed the entire game in 10 days, after going in blind, never having played a Souls game before. I destroyed the entire of Bloodborne's legacy on here in the process too.

>>382142089
I wouldn't really consider saving one time to be save scumming

>>382142047
>Yeah I cheated this one time but I totally did everything else the legit way

Why would anyone trust you?

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every game in the DS series shits on TW3

>>382139616
Not forced to choose between X and Y from time to time = linear. Who cares that you can take multiple paths pretty much all the time, who cares that you can kill anyone at any time and get different results. It even lets you stop playing and it's still an in game choice. I don't get you people. Why would you prefer game that locks you into choosing positive/neutral/negative generic responses over and over again just to give you an ending that's not even good necessarily and in most cases just different and you can see them coming mile away because of obvious choice system... At this point, as soon as I see an RPG game that boasts multiple storylines/endings and "choices that matter" I just run other way. They're so fake and handheld it just ruins all the fun for me. At least that's how it is right now.

>>382142403
If you weren't such a newfag you'd have been there for the daily 'Bloodborne experience thread' threads.

>>382142617
Everything you say doesn't matter because you were caught cheating.

Don't forget you can fucking run past every enemy because they attack once a year but what makes them challenging is when you actually try to fight them and see how shit hitboxes are. DS actively discourages you from fighting.

>>382142403
>>382142782
lol how did he cheat?

>>382141037
>because it's old
what a great fucking excuse when older DMC has tight controls
>inb4 it's not the same genre
DS has about as much RPG elements as DMC let's be honest

>>382142893
DMC is boring though, no?

>>382142932
So is Dark Souls.

>>382142836
The three gold trophies are endings, two of them are only 7 minutes apart.
The game autosaves all the time and once you get an ending you start NG+ immediately, one saveslot for one character

>>382143102
DS is at least challenging. DMC is more like anime with a little bit of input from viewer.

>>382141312
That guy was also too retarded to take a screenshot.

>>382143194
So how did he see them only 7 minutes apart? Some glitch that beats the game ii 7 minutes?

>>382139616
>The Souls franchise is easily the most overrated franchise in the last decade.

sure but can you at least use a better image ?

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>>382139616
here you go lad

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>>382143494
No idea, I guess that's why people call him a cheater but I don't know how he cheated

>>382143494
No. You copy your savestate to an usb stick or upload it to the cloud right before the final boss, but to know that he must have looked it up on the internet.
He didn't beat the game without looking shit up which is not just pathetic but it ruins the game for him.

>>382143494
He's a "cheater" because he reloaded a save to see the different endings

play these games because they are good
some shitstain on /v/ who's bad at games can beat them, but they won't get good at them
the learning is part of the overall experience. if you just stomp your way through the main path and don't explore, you've missed out on one of the best franchises in games

>>382143640
Or just don't reply? The validation of people like this is hardly worth your time.

Or sage at the very least

>>382143494
>I cant do it so he cheated
he got rekt because he didnt think that was possible, see just shows souls fags dont have ingenuity

>>382143892
See
>>382142047

I platinumed the hardest game you've ever played in 10 days and destroyed it's legacy in the process.

>>382145159
This

>>382139616
>All Bosses are pretty much the same, you just roll around until they are in their "vulnerable" phase, and then attack the shit out of them until they start swinging again
That's some real oversimplification right there.

>They play the same otherwise.
They play similarly but they all vary from one to the next.

They are overrated though and DaS3 is the worst one.

>>382140925
>Reloading saves to cut time
>Likely still reading guides despite "going in blind"
>Most definitely summoning 2 phantoms the whole time because bad

>>382145892
Actually, there is a webm of some anon actually being summoned by 10 days guy, he gets killed by an NPC I think. Anyone have it?

>>382146139
> What are Chinese whispers?

I offered out anyone on /v/ for a PVP, when nobody was willing to back up their claims and face me (I'd had the game for 5 days at this point), one anon joined me on a coop.

He proceeded to run me into unfamiliar areas in a desperate bid to get me killed. After about an hour of running me into swarms upon swarms of enemies, attempting to blow me up with a cannon and running me into traps, he took me to a boss. At this point I had almost zero items remaining and wasn't set up for the impromptu battle. Nevertheless I took the enemy down to one hit left but died. The other anon kept in deliberately walking in my way throughout much of the fight.

I then proceeded to return and beat the boss second time - given the game is renowned for being something you die a lot in, dying once is hardly a big deal.

Most importantly, keep clutching at straws, nothing will change the fact I platinumed the hardest game you ever faced in 10 days.

>>382139616
______________________git gud____________________

>>382146571
BASED 10 DAYS ANON IS BACK JAJAJAJAJA XD XD XD

>>382146571
Eh, I'm not really against you, I just want to see the webm lol. For the record I platted it in 6 days but I already played it on a friends console before I got my own

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>>382139616
>Dark Souls 1 and 2
>linear

Really weak bait.

>>382140925
>as a more mature gamer
>posts image with placeholder filename, obviously grabbed from /bbg/
>supposedly this more mature gamer was unaware of the share button on his PS4, and instead opted to take a picture with the camera.

If you're not lying, what's your username?

>>382146571
>I platinumed the game
>unfamiliar areas
?

>>382146571
hardest game is Medeival II as Scotland you dummy, everyone knows that

>>382145892
Didn't need to summon because:

> you can run past every single enemy without getting touched

> you can carry up to 24.vials at any time giving you circa 12 extra lives at any point in the game

> locking on auto aims attacks, rendering accuracy pointless

> rolling makes you basically invincible

> You're gifted cheese items for many bosses

> beating any boss is this easy: attack once, wait for the blatantly obvious slow attack with the 10 second recovery, attack again, rinse, repeat

> there are spectres and notes every step of the way literally showing and telling you what to do and destroying any element of surprise

> attacking, unbelievably, replenishes your own health lol

I didn't need guides or summoning because the game is beyond simple for anyone who isn't a millennial.

>>382146970
Cloud__ffvii

>>382146970
Cloud__ffvii

Message me, by all means.

>>382147237
>Cloud__ffvii

Well, I concede. You really truly did it. Now go play Old Hunters.

>>382147416
No, I hated the gameplay, I only got the platinum to silence the 'git gud' crew, who went on the offensive when I dared to criticise the game.

No joke, I traded it in for No man's sky.

>>382140925
>Trophy fag
Opinion discarded.

>>382140925

I wonder if you are the original poster of that shit, or another dedicated autist?

>>382147580
Ok, what kind of games do you play then? I'm really curious.

>>382142192

>I destroyed the entire of Bloodborne's legacy on here in the process too.

All this delusion.

>>382139616
>Linear.
Nope. In BB (for example) the second you beat Vicar, you can travel to the Forest, Hemwick Charnel Lane, backtrack through the Forest to hit Isofeka's Clinic, and potentially Cainhurst, get Bagmanned into Lost City, go to Old Yharnam, etc.
>Clunky.
Nope. There's a difference between moves having pronounced startup and a game being clunky. The roll and block functions are wicked fast, similar to action games even... But attacking is about taking a risk while damage mitigation moves are swift.
>Repetitive.
Applies to basically any franchise ever, especially ones with boss fights featured. Also, people HATED the gimmick fights in the older games like Dragon God and Chaos. Regardless, your favorite game is repetitive as fuck... If it wasn't, you'd still be playing it.
>Normal enemies are trash.
Nope. You can critique the series in many ways, but regular mobs are a joy to fight, especially in DaS3/BB where some of them are really nasty. The series is literally the best series for wacky and difficult enemies that are fun to fight, even better than DMC/Bayo/NG/etc. On top of that, they frequently have stellar design. The only gripe about the enemies I have is that they like to ease new players in with chaff garbage which reduces the real estate for good enemies. The amount of great enemies left out of BB's main game and left in the chalices is criminal.
>Rehashed.
Yep, I agree with this point. Hopefully now that Namco doesn't have them locked in a 3 game contract, we're going to get some fresh life down the road.

>>382140925

>As a more mature gamer I really need some form of challenge in the game to keep me entertained but this is laughably so easy.

You sound like the archetype of the fedora wearer.

>>382148026
It's me.

>>382142192
You took more time to plat it than I did without summons or guides. I'm not sure how one autist's journey to the heart of autism is going to stop other people from enjoying a game, but please keep it up.

>>382148027
I actually don't really play all that much anymore. I'm a big final fantasy fan but half the reason I was so disappointed with Bloodborne was that I was hoping it'd be the game that'd revitalise my joy for vidya.

FF7 is my favourite game.

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>>382146764
I think it's this one.

>>382147237

>he likes Final Fantasy
>he likes turn based combat

Well, there goes all the authority you could have about what a good game is.

>>382148968
Millennial detected.

>>382148934
See
>>382146571

>>382148569
fucking destroyed..

>>382149036
Anyone who's old enough to have played FFVII when it was current and still has a gamertag named after it is a literal xX-Sephiroth-Xx grampy circa '85.

>>382149134
it's not his fault you got shit stomped lel

>>382149036

As clunky as Souls combat is, at least it feels like an actual combat. Turn based gameplay is nothing but a glorified board game.

>>382149747
See
>>382149134

>>382149908
how did you platinum the game yet still arent familiar with every area?

>>382139616
>the most overrated franchise in the last decade
Agreed.
>The games are horrible
Nah, they're alright.

>>382150165

Because he cheated.

>inb4 no i didn't

It took me 10 days to get platinum in one of the easiest games in the history of gaming franchises. Seriously each area following the "chosen hunter" and his excessively buffed weapons from assorted game locations as he fights brainless enemies has been less engaging than the last. Aside from the handholding, the game's only consistency is providing you with absolutely retarded, unchallenging mobs and allowing you to run through all of them without any combative motivation thoughout the entire game. All to make the difficult feel easy, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when From Software voted to make the game a PS4 exclusive; they made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody. just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for the souls series. Bloodborne might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the normalfag game in its refusal of challenge, skill and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the Dark Souls games were good though
"No!"
The enemies were easy; the bosses were unfairly hard. As I played, I noticed that every time a enemy went for an attack, he spent an unrealistic amount of time telegraphing an attack.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every second the enemy stretched his arm back. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope a several dozen times. I was incredulous. Miyazaki's mind is so governed by outdated game design philosophies that he has no other style of challenge. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Dark Souls by the same Kevin-V from Gamespot. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Bloodborne at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to play the Star Wars Jedi Knight." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play "Bloodborne" you are, in fact, trained to play Jedi Academy.

>>382146571
>>382148934
That's not a boss lol. Why are you lying?

>>382151035
>Twitter meme
kill yourself

Can we all agree that the only legit flawed Souls title is Das2?
I mean all of the others are genuinely great, well designed games but Das2 has far too many lazily designed boss fights and crap levels to be considered anything beyond decent.

>>382150676
This fuckin guy. Almost makes me regret ignoring these stupid threads for a year.

>>382150165
I wasn't familiar at that point. It was the first time I'd played the game. I was in the area for the first time.

>>382151418
They're all flawed masterpieces, aaide from DeS and BB which are just superb games with very few flaws worth mentioning.

Demon's Souls is the least flawed in my opinion, with only minor gripes like the grass system and tendencies being improperly explained.

BB is easily the highest quality in most categories and a masterclass in game deaign, but performance, less equipment diversity, underdeveloped Lost/Uncanny weapons and gems, some stinker bosses in the main game, and the chalices being a little fucked up are some notable flaws.

DaSis probably the most flawed with some absolutely fucked-up mechanics like poise, worst-in-series movesets, really fucked up level quality marring half the game.

DaS3 simply did nothing unique, and although it's s fine title in terms of quality, it's boring in terms of design and by-the-books.

DaS2 was a bit of a clusterfuck, but they tried a lot of shit it least and . It's literally the experiment they had to make before making the masterpiece that is BB. DaS3's blandness actually gave me a new appreciation for this game.

>>382151723
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>>382152724
It's certainly not a standard enemy.

>>382152636
>Demon's Souls is the least flawed in my opinion
this is objectively wrong.

>>382152952
Not a boss either.

>>382153104
What's flawed about it?
Levels are pretty good, superb NPCs and quests, actual instruments in the ost (unlike samples used in DaS1/DaS2), combat is objectively tighter than DaS1/DaS2, experiments a great deal compared to other titles in the series, great PvP, freedom to tackle the game however you see fit, best-in-series movesets aside from potentially BB, etc.

The flaws I see are grass, heavy armor being underwhelming, a few stinker bosses, tendencies... All of this is minor imo.

Make your argument.

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The Dark Souls series are heavily overrated but there is 3 elements that can't be taken from it
1. Weapon variety
2. Aesthetics
3. Setting
Even when the latter is stale by now, the other two represent a big plus for the franchise in my eyes.
Anything else is a hit or miss in the series, from boss fights to gameplay is a big list of hit and miss
The PvP tho is easily its worst aspect

>>382139992
So Demon's Souls is your favorite?

I love the series, but the fanbase is just fucking abysmal.

>>382139616
wow its another if i dislike something popular it will make me popular thread

great contribution you idiot

>>382142530
Not wrong, but it doesn't make Souls good

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anyone wanna help a nigga out on bloodborne?
first time playing a souls game so i'm not sure if i'm building my character right. doing what feels like no dmg to it, and i'm taking hits horribly
i'm stuck on the one reborn, and need some help
using the co-op bell but nobody seems to be around

>>382152636

>They're all flawed masterpieces

This, this here is why everyone gets fed up when talking to souls faggots. The games may be kinda nice, yeah, but stop treating them like they're godly and nothing can ever top them.

They have a clunky, mediocre and really simple battle mechanics which are not bringing anything new to the table. The story is nonexistent in most cases, and just depends on the lore (which is fairly interesting, I'll give it that).

They're like these really mediocre RPG's where the lead designer said:

>fuck it, just remove all the other difficulties and only leave very hard in there
>brilliant!

>>382157865
>Stop liking thing!
No thanks

Git gud casul

>>382155026
Weapon variety was really only a thing in Demons Souls. Dark Souls had the most of the Dark Souls games but every game after than, every great sword swung the same way, every dagger had the same move set. I

>Normal enemies are really just boring trash that are just there for the sake of being there.
nah

>>382142225
One of the major mechanics in the game is that it auto saves after pretty much any action the player takes, meaning that the player must have cheated to get two endings in three minutes, this would shave days off of platinuming the game, and is also more evidence that this guy definitely didn't blind run the game.

Either way it's bait, the guy posts in every thread.

>>382148569
>darksouls
>better and more varied enemies than bayo/dmc
I've play every fucking souls games and you are either delusional or have never played bayo or dmc on the hardest difficulty. The moment to moment gameplay in souls games is very weak, most enemies require the same method of disposal and the limits of combat through the weapon and stamina system make your approach relatively the same for most enemies.

In fact this is why I hate the fanbase of this series. As far as action gaming fundamentals darksouls is relatively light. As in kingdom hearts 2 final mix limit mode light. The series has tons of other redeemable festures but casuals who play this series constantly use it as some badge of honor pushing the weakest parts of the game like its fine wine.

>>382158971
> most enemies require the same method of disposal
>your approach is relatively the same for most enemies
Please do elaborate on how [insert less popular action game you pretend to like for /v/ cred] is different in this regard.