https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1W 5DU4zmAA F

>show updated models and textures next to the release ones
what am i supposed to be paying respects to here?

>>382139030
stop shilling you fuck

So besides the animations, everything got better. Cool.

>>382139030
And despite all that, the game still runs like shit because of all the bloat.

>>382140720
(You)

why are we supposed to care about such small details ?

>>382140137
/thread

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>tfw finally uninstalled TF2 after 7 years.
I loved the game, but its so different now.

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>changing the spinning syringe gun and revolver animation

Literally why tho

>>382143568
Same here, it all started when they started to "rebalance" weapons.
That ruined it for me, that and my saxton hale server closed.

>>382143568
I've been playing since 08 and I'd have to say the game is a lot faster now. People were more deliberate back then

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>>382143902
I mostly played CTF on2 fort and Turbine. Some times I played Gorge. Always as Scout because jumping is fun.
Stopped playing around 2014 because got fucking bored of it after ~1000 hours. Just uninstalled it this year and it cleared like 20 gigs of memory. Jesus Christ.
Most of my favorite servers disappeared, and that's also a reason as to why I just quit.
Shit, I can't believe its been 7 years since I bought the Valve pack. Playing TF2 for the first time on my Thinkpad was the shit. It was unlike any other game I had played before.
Oh well. I just hope someone comes up with a game as fun as TF2. Overwatch is ok, but god damn that shit is repetitive as FUCK. At lease with TF2 you had chill servers of people just fucking around. Surf and jump servers were fucking awesome, same with prop hunt and as you said, Saxton Hale/Boss servers.
I will never forget staying up till 3-4 am just chilling on a server with cool people.

why did they downgrade the lighting and some of the textures?

>>382144818
>There is currently a total of 1334 cosmetic items.

>>382144818
"Perfomance optimizations".

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>>382144993
AKA "Now that the game is F2P we gotta make everything look like shit so Brazilians and Russians can run it"

>>382145395
wouldnt it have been easier just to make lower presets then? or options to pick which?

>>382145559
Beats me man. The game looked amazing, even with lower settings.
I know because I played on a shitty thinkpad for the first 4 years.

ironically my brother still occasionally plays the 360 version and i think it uses the better lighting or something

i used to love this game

>>382145559
It was the fact that people were surprised and getting mad when their toasters couldn't run the game at maxes out settings with certain console commands. So instead of just telling them to turn down their settings they straight up removed those console commands.
It's a shame though those commands allowed for really nice looking textures.

What the fuck is valve doing these days besides fucking around with VR in their giant pool of cash

>>382145559
it's really this>>382144937
there were huge LOD problems for years and years

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>>382140720
>everything got better
Maybe we have different definitions for what better means, but actively nerfing every single fun weapon in the game over the course of 3 years isn't what I'd call ""better""

>>382146086
so we can finally say as a matter of raw fact, that hats DID make the game worse?

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>>382146113
>MUH BISON

>>382145395
>Now that the game is F2P we gotta make everything look like shit so Brazilians and Russians can run it
lie. modern tf2 has at least *3 rig demand than 1.0 version.

>>382143568
>still cant uninstall because I cant find any other fun fps
help

>>382146402
t. Ivan Ronaldo

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>>382146295
>it's not a problem because it doesn't personally affect me
>your opinion doesn't align with my own narrative therefore you're reddit

>>382146501
the game today is more balanced than it's ever been, maybe you should git gud and stop relying on meme weapons.

>>382139030
This faggot has become pretty insufferable lately

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>>382146640
>the game today is more balanced than it's ever been
it's also the most boring its ever been. Nobody ever played TF2 for how balanced it was. I'd even argue that every character being broken in their own way was a key to how much fun it was. It was a rollercoaster of OP vs OP for years up until the D team started working on it and decided they wanted it to be balanced for competitive play.
Even with matchmaking and ranked implemented, there's still only a fraction of the playerbase that actually cares about that or balance.
I guarantee I was playing TF2 before you were even in diapers. Maybe you just feel spurned because you missed the golden years and trying trying to rationalize that you didn't miss much because "imbalance = unfun"
Regardless, have fun with your husk of a game.

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>>382144537
>I will never forget staying up till 3-4 am just chilling on a server with cool people.
I WANT TO GO BACK
I'M SICK OF BEING SO FUCKING OLD

The soundtrack for TF2 is way underrated, every song is memorable

>>382147423
>it's also the most boring its ever been
If you just want a game where battles comes down to who can abuse the most broken unlock and not who has the most the skill sure.

>Nobody ever played TF2 for how balanced it was
TF2's competitive community thrived for 10 years without any valve endorsement or support.

>I'd even argue that every character being broken in their own way was a key to how much fun it was
That hasn't changed.

>It was a rollercoaster of OP vs OP for years
And it was fucking garbage, old LNL and short circuit ruined pubs for months. Old BFB literally broke the game's hitboxes and it put scouts model several feet ahead of where his hitbox was. Old natascha let heavies stun players from any distance to where a single bullet across the map brought you to a crawl. Old wrangler let any engineer tank over several thousand damage just by pressing 2. Old dead ringer gave spy 1250 health so there was absolutely no way to kill him while cloaked. These are not fun mechanics for anyone but the shitter abusing them. This is why balancing any game is a nightmare because the trash players don't care about how unfun something is for other players they just don't want their toys taken away.

>Even with matchmaking and ranked implemented, there's still only a fraction of the playerbase that actually cares about that or balance.
Matchmaking was a steaming pile of shit that was pandering to new players and look what happened. Casual was a shitty attempt to copy overwatch and competitive didn't have any of the class or weapon restrictions that 6s had used for years not to mention that many cvars were locked for no reason other than to sell skins.

>>382139030
>Company made innovations in game physics
>Shit physics today
WOW

>>382139030
This is just one of many other reasons why Im sticking with a Team Fortress 2 Classic mod these days. Too bad that it's literally dead right now.

How can Valve redeem themselves?

>>382150456
They make too much money to care about redeeming themselves.

good vid

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>ruin the lighting and effects
>game still runs worse because it's bloated to shit with ugly cosmetics

>>382150456
By making quality games again.

Why would they change the bottle breaking? What could that possibly affect?

>>382150654
Retards probably thought it did less damage once it was broken.

Can't be too confusing, Anon!

>>382150654
I recall that some players used to think that a broken bottle does more damage than an unbroken one so they changed it to avoid confusion
>valve_playtesters.jpg

>>382150642
Unfortunately, that's never going to happen. Almost all of their old school talent has left. And how can you blame them? They were sitting around doing nothing while Valve fucks with VR and hardware. How is a talented writer supposed to contribute? It's cushy but unfulfilling.

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>listen to the TF2 developer commentary about aesthetic, art design, readability, and glance value
>cry

>>382150741
what fucking retarded world would that make sense.

you break a bottle to cut a nigger to make them bleed, if anything more damage.

No one every fucking thought this retarded thought.

>>382144537
>At lease with TF2 you had chill servers of people just fucking around. Surf and jump servers were fucking awesome, same with prop hunt
all borrowed from counter strike

>Saxton Hale Servers
by the time there were dozens it was shit, I used to play all the time on the og server, even it's name escapes me now. It hurt to see how progressively worse it got. I had gone back a year after I quit back to that server and jesus, what a mess. Kids that couldn't play for shit screeching at me with none of the old staff or friends around anymore. It hurt.

>>382150654
There was a huge rumor going around that it had a higher crit rate once it broke.

>>382151008
F

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>>382151008

>>382151027
There's that HL2:E2 commentary clip that revealed that one of the playtesters continued to go right in a circle for a half an hour.

There are retards out there. And Valve is very eager to make their shit accessible to retards.

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>>382151145

>>382147328
yeah i wish he'd use more gaf humor

>>382150654
>Many people tought the broken bottle did more damage
>Valve wanted to do solve this hoax
>When updating new models they forgot the broken bottle model
>They solved the issue
Welp, valve playtesters do it again.

>>382151145
>>382151248
dota 2 also has an art guide like this that is superb and both of them have been betrayed in the name of money

>>382144818
those lighting effects seen on the viewmodels were disable before the game ever actually launched (in the public beta). they're part of the games 'toon shader' which never really worked in the first place (crashed tons of contemporary gfx cards, was almost universally disabled because of the significant performance impact) and can only be seen in one or two of the earliest teaser trailers.

most everything in this video is misleading, basically the only legitimate thing is that some props have accidentally lost self-shadowing through automated file format conversions over the years. everything else shown was either deliberately misleading or was changed for good reason (eg. not picking up weapons as metal - this was changed when they added the ability to pick up weapons AS WEAPONS).

>>382151474
>dota 2
what?
all the cosmetics are true to the design philosophy
none of them deviate from the setting like TF2 ones do

>>382139030

>people are actually taking this seriously when the retard doesn't even know how ammo boxes work

>people are taking this seriously when 99% of it is minor visual changes

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This used to be one of my favorite games and now its fucking dead. The Overwatch fags are right.

>>382152006
lol

is crowbcat the worst channel on youtube?

You would think that a supposedly not-dead game would improve graphically after a decade.

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>>382152006
Oh, absolutely. Dota 2 still looks great.

>>382152145
but interactions like this webm still happen, all the time

the only difference is that it's ugly now

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>>382139030
lol why does this game still exist when Overwatch is already here? Let the dead stay dead. F

>>382152006
I'm sorry are we talking about the same Dota 2?

>>382152836

heroes of the storm looks wwwwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy better

>>382153019
everyone says this but they're really not the same, they have the same roots but the actual experiences are so ridiculously different

overwatch is way more of a team game ironically, where you have to actually work with your goon teammates since there's only 5. class choice matters a lot, timings matter a lot, you have to wait for ultimates and shit, everyone has some crazy gimmick you have to watch for.

it's way more lax in TF2. you can drop in and drop out without it affecting the game, it's 12v12 so it's more chaotic but that also gives you the freedom to do your own thing. team comp matters less, it has more of an emphasis on aiming and actual outplaying than weird gimmicks. plus the maps are better. and it has a server browser. and everyone is less salty in general since it's more lax.

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>>382152006
Nope, not anymore.

>>382153019
dude i know, except CoD is better xD
you gonna pre order destiny 2 bro??

>>382153272
(You)

>>382146440
Overwatch? I can't know what you consider fun.

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>>382153272
Dota is pretty good looking, consider it came out in like 2012 and was designed for lower end machines in mind.

The only real problem, besides cosmetics, is shitty models from the alpha/beta that took WAY too long to be fixed. But it's getting better. There are very few objectively shit models left.