>Have crazy cyberpunk itch >pick up pic related >First

It doesn't feel cyberpunk until you get to a certain city a few hours into the game. Despite the gameplay improvements I think its the worst Deus Ex (worse than Invisible War). Play any of the others to scratch that itch tho.

it gets a waaay lot better. i was worried as well but i can genuinely say that md was probably the best deus ex in terms of gameplay and hubs.

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>>382114413
You truly are dense anon

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>>382116184

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>>382116301

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>>382116359

>>382114413
I'm playing through Human Revolution right now.
Its pretty good, but I feel like Im just replaying the first game with these location choices

>>382115592
moron

>>382114413
Why the fuck aren't you playing Human Revolutions first anon?

Or for that matter, the original?

>>382114413
refund it
you are too retarded to play it it seems

>>382116606
He's right.

>>382116606
I'm with that guy. How about you present an argument if you disagree?

>>382114413
Play human revolution first

>>382114413
I've played until the end, so I guess it means it's not terrible, but there's something very wrong about this game and I can't quite tell what. For one, the end felt very sudden and out of place. It also limits the events to one city, which isn't all that exciting either.

All in all, it's not bad, but it felt more like an expansion than a whole game.

>>382114413
>First mission isn't cyberpunk at all its in a desert in a ruined dubai
Why are these things mutually exclusive?

>>382117413
You played part 1.
Part 2 was in development but Square stopped it to make a Marvel game.

>>382117583
Ah, that makes sense. It really felt like it was only half of the game. Most characters didn't even come into play.

So why was this game not praised? Besides performance issues on the "PC master race"

>>382116184
>>382116301
>>382116359
>>382116467

People can say what they want about the rest of the game, but MD's art direction was top fucking notch

>mfw nuDX3 is being made by Thi4f team

>>382118005
Short, poorly structured with weird characters that you somehow allied yourself with.

>>382118035
Id say the finish quality is high with lots of detail but the direction itself isnt anything special.

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>>382117836
Yeah, it was originally going to be a single, huge game, but Square decided to go full jew, splitting the game and selling its parts for maximum profit.
They also forced some missions to be dlcs, and added microtransactions without the team's consent (they weren't even there in the review copies).

Then Marvel offered even easier money, so Square totally dropped the Deus Ex franchise.
Despite part 2 of Mankind Divided being in development for more than a year and half.

>>382114413
This is either b8 or OP is the most retarded faggot on /v/.

>>382118005
Square's god awful pre-order and microtransaction jewing attempts had people against the game from the start even though it was pretty good.

>>382115061
If we are talking about story and execution here I would agree with you. But if you can say that the atmosphere in the city mixed with the music didn't give you some crazy cyberpunk feels than I might have to beat your ass. This game had some good ass atmosphere

>>382118035
Are you fucking serious?
The art direction is trash compared to HR.

>>382118294
>The art direction is trash compared to HR.
It's the fucking same.

>>382118294
golem city alone tops anything in HR

>>382118214
I think they went a bit overboard on the detail, actually. Makes everything look super busy. Not everything in real life has millions of greebles stuck on it either.

>>382118338
Do you have any kind of taste anon?
The UI for instance is plain trash, feels like a mobile game.

>>382118180
>short
I completed Deus Ex in 30~ hours, Mankind Divided took me 50. It's just filled with so much side content.

But if you skipped everything and ran through the awful main story like a generic Call of Duty, I can see how it can be perceived as short

>poorly constructed
Wut lol

>>382118101
The gameplay is already laid out for them as well as the story, probably. I guess they could fuck up level design but I wouldn't completely despair yet.

>>382118501
lol

>>382118294
How can someone be so wrong

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>>382114413
sequel never

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>>382118486
I actually prefer it - organic, occupied

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My eyes and head hurt form playing this game. It was way too fucking detailed, too much going on on the screen.
Would be a neat walking simulator but having to run around fucks me over.

>>382118895
>My eyes and head hurt
I bet that's the sharpening filter, it fucked with me too. Turned that shit off after 30 minutes.

>>382114413
Yes, you should refund it. This game doesn't deserve to be bought.

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>>382118501
Please post a mobile game with similar UI

>>382117564
Because he's a moron

>>382118984
What does it do?

>>382118289
Imo prauge didn't have a cyberpunk feel because it had too much of a European 'new nestled with old' look. When I think cyberpunk i think tons of skyscrapers with the older/smaller buildings being reduced to tightly packed slums for the underclass. Prauge felt more like a modern day European city where the old buildings are blended with the new ones

>>382118817
A lot of the times it works, I suppose. And cyberpunk aesthetics have always relied on granularity. But it does look like they went more=better sometimes without regard for the bigger picture.

>>382119224
The new clashing with the old is pretty cyberpunk though. Although maybe they shuold've shown the old buildings to be a bit more dilapidated.

>>382114413
> not appreciating fantastic dubai cp with that marvelous ost
holy crap son, you're retarded

>>382119224
Hm I feel ya. There was one really great scene at the end where you are helicoptered on top of a skyscraper and the skyline is fucking phenomenal but it was only in there for all of 5 minutes, so I def know what you mean. I'll try and find a pic of it.

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>>382115592
Deus Ex >>> MD > HR > IW

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>>382118005
Death by a million cuts
>basically only slightly better than Human Revolution
>rubbish ending that made it seem like the game was cleaved in two
>tainted before it was released by "Augment Your Preorder", nobody even noticed that was cancelled
>tainted at release by reveal of a microtransaction shop especially for single player shit (even though the game was balanced without thank God)
>bad characters
>bad performance
>denuvo meant people couldn't even pirate it to give the actual game part of the game good word of mouth
>SE obviously didn't pay enough people to around shilling for it

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>>382119210
here two comparison screenshots:
without sharpening filter

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>>382120425
and with sharpening filter

>designers explore european, middle east cities and beautifully apply the cyberpunk aesthetic to them
>ITS NOT CYBERPUNK MUH HENGSHA MUH CHINESE LETTERS
Kys

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>>382118895
Yeah, it's sharpening for sure
>>382118984
I actually love it, it's the piss filter of MD
>>382119210
Same what photoshop filter with the same name does

The gameplay and level design is the best the series has ever had, really it's only the story that lets it down.

>>382119936
this desu

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Tfw finally able to max this piece of shit game with 1080 ti

OH YES

Does MD play like HR a lot?
I can't stop replaying HR and I need something new. A big plus if MD has a new game+.

I know, I know, I should go back to the original but I've been having problems running the GOG version for whatever reason.

>>382120891
and didnt worth it uh?
I mean, HARD CONTACT SHADOWS
I didnt even noticed that shit

>>382121007

It's pretty much HR+

>>382120743
Why is this bot such a collection of random shapes?

Well, not like the original had good-looking bots but HR did it a lot better. Are they trying to bridge the gap?

>>382121058
Well I'm gonna have to buy it then, thanks anon.
I need my filling of stuffing people into vents and reading inane comments on people's computers.

>>382121279
>Why is this bot such a collection of random shapes?
it's literally perfect
>Are they trying to bridge the gap?
we'll, it's a prequel, so

>>382119936
MD higher than HR? Are you baiting?

>>382120891
sauce

>>382120521
Fuck that filter is good.

>>382121758
Its Frank Yang. His BBC videos are top-tier

>>382120521
It looks like it's printed on a magazine, in fact the first screen revealed got me thinking it was because they scanned the page

111hrs in MD here. Can't say it's better than HR though since main story is cut in half

>>382117564

Because 30 years from now Dubai will be like that Spec Ops game.

>>382114413
I tried to get into it as well but couldn't. The location of the game Prague is a bitch to navigate in and doesn't feel like Cyberpunk at all. More like totalitarian if you ask me. Really loved Human Revolution though so go play that one if you want to.

Fun fact Half-Life 2 City 17 looks a lot like Prague

>>382121630
MD is better than HR.

>>382116796
This

>>382122304
It really doesn't. City 17 clearly is a former soviet shithole

>>382121486
>it's literally perfect
I hate it.
>we'll, it's a prequel, so
Yeah but they've gone a pretty different direction anyway, aesthetically speaking.

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>>382120462
UNATCO?

>>382122029
Is he literally fucking white aryan blondes?

>>382122119
Okay, and?

>>382122381
> shitty main story
> only 1 hub
> 1 dumb boss
Sure it does

>DUDE ALL NEW THINGS GET SHAMED ON. US TRENDY GUYS ARE SUCH REBELS. FUCK DRUMPF AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

yeah that doesnt work

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>>382122453
Fucking bowlegged piece of trash with metal shards for trousers

>>382122527

Cyberpunk and nomadic sandpeople are mutually exclusive.

>>382122576
>1 hub that's far more detailed than anything else in HR or the original
>top-tier sidequests
>2 bosses, why would you even want more

>>382122576
I'm not going to say HR is not better in some ways but MD's superior level design alone makes it better.

>>382122787
Nomadic sandpeople are one of the classes in Cyberpunk 2020

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>>382114413
>not even a top seller on Steam despite the big discount
This franchise is so fucking dead (again).

>>382123105
Yeah it's pretty sad. The Human Revolution hype really was just a fluke after all.

>tfw no sequel to confirm or deny whether MD Jensen is a clone or not

>>382123194
>decided to spend all their time on a new engine when making a sequel
>barely marketed it and when they did, they did it poorly
>injected microtransactions in at the last moment to ensure bad press
>didn't even pay people on /v/ to shill for it
square didn't want it to succeed

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>>382123364
>clone
more like memory manipulation

>>382122482
Mostly asian girls but yeah, he fucks whoever.

>>382123783
>tfw Jensen is the first MiB

>>382114413
Nigga just get Human Revolution if you havent played it.

Or if you arent a total faggot get the original Deus Ex, its only a dollar on Steam so there's no excuse.

>>382122576
>only 1 hub
it's fucking metroidvania level

>>382118294

>still has the god tier architecture from HR
>drops the piss filter in the trash where it belongs
>goes back to Deus Ex 1 asthetic of believable real world architecture, grimed up and retrofitted with new technology
>use of color is fucking fantastic

Nigga please.

>>382118350
Not Hengsha

>>382114413
Deus Ex isn't cyberpunk, it's just regular cyber/futuristic so it's your fault for assuming it.

>>382114413
it's awful.

>countless gb of storage
>only allowed 3 save slots

nah fuck right off.

>>382124427
then there's this faggot

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>>382124427

>not cyberpunk
>when we have people trying to upload themselves into the internet to become as gods
>high tech low life
>fragmentation of the self thanks to the intrustion of technology
>megalomaniacle megacorporations

bruh

Nu-Deus ex is more near future with cyberpunk influences then full on cyberpunk.

>>382117034
Not really. you have that hub and that shitty poor city you visit and that's about it. it's good but not great. and the story ruins it anyway.
disappointing game.

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>>382124495
>countless gb of storage
disklets, when will they learn
>only allowed 3 save slots
with gorillion individual saves each

>>382124181
JUST

>>382124615
don't feed the troll

>>382124181
Looks like the TV station never picked up the nucl3ar_snake series

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I legitimate sad that deus ex is dead now.

>>382125167
it was dead for a long time after iw

The worst thing about Cyberpunk is how morons act like the setting can never ever leave the confines of a handful of cities.

>>382125167
So many games seem to be flopping these days.

>>382124615
It's not true Cyberpunk, it's just wanna be cyberpunk.
Especially the first Deus ex, its just hey lets add some cool futuristic stuff

>>382125709
Are you a true retard or a wannabe retard?

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>>382125969
wannabe...

>>382124786
AUG

Call me crazy, but I prefer the look of HR. I really liked the colour scheme and the world had a cohesiveness to it. MK was kinda hard to look at, like sharpening was enabled even if I had it disabled in settings. The lack of a 'piss filter' equivalent also made it really mundane.

>>382125167
kinda funny that the game with no DRM was a massive success while the game with Denuvo was a flop that killed the franchise despite being a better game.
Just goes to show how much discussion about a game can propel its sales and how DRM affects it.

>>382114413

Read the "newstablets" around. It's post-apocalyptic Dubai.

Dubai was one of the big aug cities and then it all went to shit during the aug incident.

Also... there are cyborgs around.

>>382126647
OP is an idiot who thinks cyberpunk HAS to be night time all the time

>>382126557
I don't think pc-sales is even remotely relevant to its flop.

>>382115061

muh cyborg leaves the noir ghetto... not cyberpunk.

He's literally dropped off on top of post-apocalyptic Dubai by Illuminati/Interpol commandos on some shady ass mission.

>>382114413
It's that gen z cyberpunk shit, which means it's basically a bleep and bloop thrown in with modern aesthetics. Be on the look out for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsZG1t3v-Y

One of the few developers that I know read Snow Crash.

>>382117250
/thread

>>382126805

they pulled too many punches.

Game is good though. Predicted a "hacking scandal" pertaining to an election.

The game's script has to be written by a hardcore conspiracy theorist for it to be good and Squeenix can't pussy out from publishing it.

>>382126764


Cyberpunk Arabia/Cyberpunk Vegas is in the new BladeRunner trailer. There is some futuristic city buried in sand.

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>>382122206
Looked cyberpunk enough to me

>>382127472
sterile

>>382127162
You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to write about conspiracy theories. Some distance from the subject matter is probably preferable, actually.

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>>382114413
Refund immediately, it gets worse.

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>>382127552
You just said it doesn't feel like cyberpunk.
It does

>>382125167
Probably for the best since MD wasn't exactly a good indication of how they were taking things. Maybe after another 5 or so years, they can maybe get their heads out of their asses and make a good game.

>>382127623
It always ends up sounding like they're belittling the consumer or rather, that it's something they were instructed to do without emotional attachment, I prefer a person actually into the shit they're creating.

>>382127762
Not that anon, I was just comment on how sterile it looked. Doesn't look cyberpunk to me either though. I like a bit more grit and techy shit.

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>>382125167
It was a good series. What a rotten way to die.

>>382127829
You can be into conspiracy theories without believing in them. I doubt the first Deus Ex was written by actual conspiracy theorists. If it were, they wouldn't have been able to handle the material so candidly.

>>382118486
>>382119414
I kind of agree with this. Prague, while larger than Detroit or Hengsha, still feels quite condensed. It could stand to be more spread out.

I don't expect a sprawling, fully walkable city, mind you - but something that gives the impression of a big city at least. They could've done this by using the subway to split the city up into more districts, so at least you get the feeling of travelling outside of this relatively tiny area. Games have been using world maps and overworlds to that effect for decades now, and it works pretty well to provide a sense of scale, while being very light on development resources.

>>382119936
Oh please stop it with that meme.
How, apart from the story and the characters, is the original Deus Ex far better than MD or HR?

>>382122576
>shitty main story
Longest, most intriguing and complex sidequests in the whole series
>only 1 hub
Huge, inconnected world full of detail and environmental narrative
>1 dumb boss
Bosses, literally the one thing EVERYBODY complained about in Human Revolution

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>>382127929
>I was just comment on how sterile it looked
I'm afraid you just have poor tastes, then

>All these sharpened and blurred pics
Turn off the fucking TAA, you fucks. It looks like shit

>>382128371
this, turn off sharpening and taa and inject smaa instead

>>382128238
Nah, I just prefer old school aesthetic choices of the 80's and 90's.

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>>382128718
Doesn't make this game sterile.

>>382128083
it has better level design, pacing, actual consequences in character building/more gameplay systems, more fun augs, more memorable music, is longer, more enemy variety, stealth/takedowns aren't as trivially easy (incl. having lighting mechanics)

>>382129107
I'm just saying what I'm seeing. It looks sterile, I'm going to call it sterile.

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Sure thing.
Just try it one day, it's piratable

the opening in MD is garbage, the game starts like 3 times

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>>382129152
Quality post anon

Should I buy the season pass also or just mankind devided?

>>382130292
Just MD. DLCs are completely disconnected from the main story anyway.

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>>382114413
I'm upset about how hated it is.

The location is fantastic with clash of old european buildings and futuristic ones (they really played with this theme quite a lot).

The levels have many approaches and hidden secrets, also highly detailed with environmental storytelling.

The gameplay is a straight upgrade from HR and even lets you disable all the disgusting HUD clutter and minimap.

The sidemissions are varied and interesting, they also can have long lasting outcomes.

The visuals are quite good, they make use of deferred shading which is very smart for a game with so many light sources, very impressive use of screen space reflection with minimal to no glitches.

The main story is weak I admit, that's the only negative I can agree on.

I finished Desu Sex: Human Revolution, but I wasn't too happy with it. You get all these weapons and lethal gadgets, but the game heavily encourages you to go stealth and nonlethal.
Also
>dat ending

How does Mankind Divided handle this?

>>382130956
You get equal xp for combat approaches.
Also you get xp for opening doors and computers with passwords.
It was so silly in HR how you basically gimp yourself for using those and missing out on the hacking xp.

>>382130956
All endings are canon

>>382131172
>you basically gimp yourself for using those
I fucking hate this meme.

>>382131242
What did he mean by this?

>>382130956
>How does Mankind Divided handle this?
Like the first game. They just sorta fused all the ending together.

MD is way better in the sense that you can actually do lethal shit for once.

>>382114413
MD gets way better after the whole 'your augments are getting hacked and you're worthless oh no' part an hour in or so.

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>>382114413
So what happens if I refund a game and then buy a cheaper copy off G2a right after and activate it?

>>382131309
The game already throws more than enough of exp at you, you don't miss out on anything if you use passwords as much as you can and just avoid or kill enemies.

human revolution was better because yellow

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>>382131463
It doesn't matter what you think is enough, it's a simple fact that if you chose hacking over door/computer codes in HR you end up with much less xp.
It was silly because it encourages you to hack doors where you know the code.
That was fixed in MD, that's all I was saying.

>>382118005
Denuvo kills games.

>>382132113
Denuvo kills careers*

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>>382131562
You can add your own poor hydration urine filter with reshade as much as removing it from HR.
You aren't stuck with artisitc visions of post process filters on PC.

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threadly reminder who's the best girl is and why MD is so full of them for all tastes

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>you will never get to see Everett putting DeBeers in his fridge

>>382132163
If someone shoots at me he deserves to die, it doesn't matter if he has an wife and kids waiting for him at home.

>>382132735
Reminder that the canadian devs of the game probably intended her to marry a jewish black transsexual girl in the cancelled sequel.

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>>382132735
Eliza was the true best girl.
Her sidemission was 10/10, literal waifu war.

>the sunset behind Rucker was meant to show the end of the new renaissance era but it was actually the sunset of the series
whoa

>>382134060
Its like Deus ex2, the series is too well known to be dead for long.
Now is a bad time develope a AAA cp game because everyone expects cp77 to revolutionize the genre. Its safer to just look what kind of game it is and then make something that learns from it.

>>382131878
You're saying i don't need to hack FUCKING EVERYTHING in MD to get whatever fucking loot/xp possible? HR already had it bad where you need to headshot or double-takedown everything to maximize xp

>Cyberpunk is trenchcoats and fedoras and neon signs
Fuck off reddit.

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>>382134814
Yes, it's a welcome change for us OCD folk who max out xp gain.

>>382132854
Well, it's a good thing you're already getting upset about it all the same.

>>382134912
Deus Ex literally has 2/3s of those

>>382134912
Fuck off millenial retard

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>play game for 5 seconds
>Uninstall it and bitch on /v/
This is the essence of nu-/v/

>>382135410
>implying /v/ plays games and doesn't just watch let's plays now

>>382135175
And? Cyberpunk isn't an aesthetic.

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>>382135558
>Cyberpunk isn't an aesthetic.
It's as much of an aesthetic as it is a genre

>>382135558
Oh I thought you meant people were wrong for saying Deus Ex wasn't cyberpunk because it didn't have those things, and I thought I'd point out it has them anyway.

>>382114413
>in cyberpunk
>the whole world is cyberpunk
>even third world undeveloped shitholes like dubai
how isn't this accurate? do you seriously think muslims built their own cyberpunk cities too in the future? that's not how it works... only developed countries are developed... I'm glad a dev had the balls to show this...

>>382119936
original deus ex doesn't hold up anymore.
maybe if it was 1994, but it's not.

>>382136675
IRL cities like China and Tokyo are already in an early cyberpunk phase

>>382124181
That's Pritchard? Jesus, thank god this game failed.

>>382121279
>Why is this bot such a collection of random shapes?
uneducated morons dont even know the golden spiral... goes to show the type of people that play cyberpunk...

>>382136869
so are countries in the middle east lol

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>>382136675
>even third world undeveloped shitholes like dubai

>>382136984
Oh yeah because the golden fucking spiral is the first thing on my mind when designing military hardware. Some thing are just supposed to look industrial.

>>382136776
lol

>>382124621
Something I noticed was how so few missions had multiple objectives or story points. Like riding the funicular down in Montreal. Instead it's grab this thing and fuck off or go to the one elevator or just escape. The ARC compound is enormous but it all feels pointlessly excessive because 80% of it is in the "go to elevator" phase of the mission and if you stick to the bottom floor you find a grate that skips most of it almost immediately. Or the church where it's just get to the top floor which you can easily do from the starting courtyard in a couple of minutes. Ironically the most "Deus Ex" level is probably London but there they pressure you to rush through half of it under an invisible timer.

>>382137453
just wait a couple years dude... everything in that region goes backwards... not forwards.

>>382137621
I dunno what's funny, I'm old enough that I missed the boat on it, but can still appreciate the mechanics they added that were really ahead of its time.

People expect mechanics like that now because all games have them... there's nothing new in it, or cutting edge. WHOA! You can move and stand on a box! The only thing it gives the newer generation is shitty graphics and garbage ai.

>>382137556
>the first thing on my mind when designing military hardware
do you design military hardware for a living? THEN WHY WOULD IT BE HAHAHAHAHHAHA GOTTEM

>>382138246
>but can still appreciate the mechanics they added that were really ahead of its time.
The mechanics were not ahead of its time, and their novelty is not why people enjoyed the game.

>>382138645
t. someone who was born after deus ex.
didn't know who i was arguing with.

>>382138878
Do you think Deus Ex was the first to do environmental interaction?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDdkKB10ouk
FUCKING CUMMMMMMMMMMMM
what a sexy game

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I don't care about story or scope (I know it was a defining feature of the original Deus Ex, I just dont care that much about these things at this point) too much at this point - how is the gameplay?

How does level design and options (lethal/non-lethal) compare to HR and the original?

>cyberpunk HAS to be located in a city at all times

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Modern cyberpunk lacks the self awareness and gritty from the 80's - 90's, it just isn't the same, its too clean, too shiny and takes itself too seriously.

>>382141973
Back then it was an emerging genre that everyone was rushing to define.
Now it has a concrete aesthetic and thematic nature associated with it.

>>382140376
better than hr

>>382139521
>he thinks im talking about environmental interaction
heh, what a fucking idiot

>>382145465
The only mechanics you mentioned were moving and standing on boxes. What mechanics did Deus Ex have that was so ahead of its time?

>>382121449
>stuffing people into vents
My nigger.

>killing people with flying fridges

>>382141973
People forget that cyberpunk was mainly literature and it's a very odd amalgamation of (for the lack of better words) high and low brow culture. Now that the edge of the genre is just not there (literally no one bats an eye at an anti-hero sci-fi protagonist, for one) and the authors have mostly moved on, only mediocre writers remain who can't publish a book for their life so they end up being videogame scenario writers; and being mediocre, they inevitably fuck up everything with clichés and rigid, "safe" world building.

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>>382136869
>cities like China

>>382147430
Fuck I'm retarded, meant Beijing and Shanghai.

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>>382132735
>implying

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>>382148638
>Manderley's cum sock
>best anything

>>382140376
it's much better than HR

>>382124427
>>382124615
>>382125709

The term you are looking for is post-cyberpunk.

It's a shitty genre, but there you have it.

>>382117564
It isn't, there's a pretty well known cyberpunk novel that takes place in the middle east