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>DUDE, IN THIS RPG YOUR CHOICES MATTER >your choices don't

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>DUDE, IN THIS RPG YOUR CHOICES MATTER

>your choices don't matter at all
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>>382103485
your choices don't matter in life either
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>>382103564
damn... thinky winky... noodle strudel...
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>>382103485
They matter to me if it can stop your tears.
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Choice is an illusion
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>hasn't played the game
>still comes on here to spout horseshit
/v/ in a nutshell.
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>>382103485
you know what doesn't matter?
your life

end it
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>>382103564
pretty sure that every cognitive semantic process has the purpose to generate a yes or a no
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>>382103735
How many ends does a sausage have?
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>>382103485
they do though
only a handful of them but they still do
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>>382103862
HE DIED ON MY FIRST RUN
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>>382103564
actually It does.
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>>382103485
>you let Roche die
>he dies
>you save Roche
>he lives
>"lol dude your choices donĀ“t matter at all"
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>>382103694
Are you talking about yourself?

>dude, you can save Baron's wife!
>dude, you can make Baron kill himself!
>nothing matters because Baron leaves the game for good after the quest anyway

>dude, Lambert can die!
>dude, Keira can save Lambert!
>dude, Keira can die!
>dude, you can save Keira!
>nothing matters because after Kaer Morhen they're out of the game for good
>>382103705
>TW3 shills are edgy teenagers
Knew it all along.
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>>382103954
>you let Roche die
>he dies
>you save Roche
>he lives but leaves the game and is never mentioned again
WOW, THIS CHANGES SO MUCH!
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>>382103987
>after Kaer Morhen
so they DO matter

very little but they still matter
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>>382103862
>they do
>posts a quest that changes nothing
>>382104132
>very little but they still matter
Epic RPG, son.
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>>382103987
>>382104073

No seriously, what more do you want ? Saved characters should suck your dick 24/7 ?
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>>382103987
>romance triss
>triss shows up at your vineyard in toussaint
>romance yen
>yen shows up at your vineyard in toussaint
>romance neither
>dandelion shows up at your vineyard in toussaint
>they all stay there as long as you keep playing the game
checkmate fag

can't wait to see how you're going to move the goalposts this time
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>You can kill Radovid in the most anticlimactic sidequest
>Nobody ever mentions the fucking king is dead
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>>382104073
>he doesnt care about Roche
WOW I LIKE DONT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING LMAO CHOICES DONT MATTER TO ANYONE
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>>382103987
>>dude, Keira can die!
>>dude, you can save Keira!
>>nothing matters because after Kaer Morhen they're out of the game for good

can't help but notice how you conveniently left out the option where you let her go to radovid and you get a unique quest later on in novigrad, buddy
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>do a random hunting quest out of order
>characters actually acknowledge that

>let Triss get tortured
>you don't even get a different line of dialog
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>>382103987
>TW3 shills are edgy teenagers
depressed NEETs
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>>382103936
oh yeah how many endings does your life have then
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>>382104254
>choices don't matter
>NO THEY DO, THIS IS BAIT
>no they don't, here's proof
>WELL WHAT DO YOU WANT?
Go Bloody Baron yourself.
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>>382104536
One, everyone dies alone
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>>382104282
>Triss
You really want to open this can of worms, anon? That her returning after personal quest affects jacks shit and that she could've left after Kaer Morhen and literally nothing would change because all she does after that is says 3 sentences and looks like a third wheel?
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>>382104536
my life is not ended yet but you can literally change the course of your life in a matter of second.

just stop doing same shit everyday

>having lunch with your friend
>pick up a fork and stab him in the eyes
>life change

>quit your job and become beggar
>life change

>chop off your dick for no reason
>tons of medical bills or die from blood loss
>life change


JUST DO IT
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>>382103485
define "matter"
because literally no videogame matters, nevermind what the fuck you do or don't do in them
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>>382103807
All hat ein ende, sind sie wurst hat zwei
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>>382104313
>Nilfgaard officer in the epilogue even says something like "Do you want to stay and greet Radovid's boy here?"
Someone didn't get the memo.
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>>382104429
>unique quest later on in novigrad
You mean the epic quest of pulling her off a spike? This really changes and affects the game a lot, anon... Oh wait, it doesn't. At all.
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>>382104701
irrelevant, it's a choice that has a different outcome, that's what this discussion is about

if you're gonna move goalposts shove 'em deep up your own ass
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>>382104542
The fuck are you even on about ?
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>>382104836
>HAHA IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE I SAY IT DOESN'T XDD
e p i c rebuttal mate
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>dude, choices, lmao

>game completely ignores the biggest TW2 choice between stripes and non-humans
>stuck with Roche and Ves isntead of my boy Iorveth and waifu Saskia because removed content galore
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Your choices in The Witcher matter more than they do in any telltale game
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ITT: people fall for a literal recolored "there are no games in X platform" "haha your list of 500 games doesn't count because of my arbitrary reasons" thread
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>>382103485

The game has multiple endings, faggot. Many quests also have at least 2 endings. Stop spouting shit like you know stuff.
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>>382104982
imagine being so desperate to defend your shitty game you literally have to put the bar as low as it can possibly be
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>>382104846
>irrelevant because it goes against my point
Amazing.
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>>382104723
You can get rich by playing vidyas
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>>382105083
Wrong.
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>your choices matter
>but it was a prank
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>>382105074
Fallout 3 has 200 endings too
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>>382104718
but the ending is always the same; you die.
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>>382104901
How does it matter or affect the game, anon. Go on.
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>>382105074
>get a cutscene where ciri dies
>get a cutscene where ciri becomes empress
>get a cutscene where ciri becomes a witcher
>regardless you never see her again
wow it's fucking nothing
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>>382103485
The only thing that bothered when I was my first playthrough is I let Triss go away with the ship, because I was going after Yens ass and when later I went with Ciri to kaer morhen to defend it she was just there out of nowhere and everbody act like it was natural or expected.

On my second playthrough I told her lovely stuff and she stayed and told she goes to kaer morhen so it was logical but my first choice made it obvious there was no choice.
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>New marker found: Cunny of the Goose
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>>382104982
Except they're completely the same. You could use this "argument" in TW1/TW2, but not Wild Hunt that suffers from the same problem as Telltale games: no matter what you do it all leads to the same conclusion. Also, in TWD characters that lived/died also didn't affect anything.
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>>382105172
i told you, it's a quest you can't access any other way

if you're gonna say that doesn't matter then you need to just tell everyone in this thread what exactly matters according to your arbitrary definition of mattering instead of keeping it to yourself and just going "nah mate try again"
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>>382105206
except you get diff epilogue. in one you get her a sword and meet her in a tavern, in other you are fighting together with a fucking werewolf.
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>>382105074
>The game has multiple endings, faggot.
Whole 3 endings, 2 of which are literally 1 choice away from each other.
>Many quests also have at least 2 endings.
Where both endings lead to the same outcome.
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>>382105309
wow a 5 minute one-time quest
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>>382104190

>Totally different quest outcomes based on choices made
>Changes nothing

Oh right, it doesn't count unless the world turns inside out and the story becomes completely different right?
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>>382103485
Give an example of a meaningful choice in a video game.
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>>382105381
the one where you decide to put videogames down and live a fulfilling life that doesn't involve playing pretend in linear fantasy worlds
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>>382105287
>i told you, it's a quest you can't access any other way
>quest
it's less of a quest than random ! on the map. The quest literally starts and ends there in a stake in under a minute. It's just a dialogue.
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>>382105356
so you have no arguments? gotcha.
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>>382105376
>Totally different quest outcomes
Excuse me?
>baron dies
>baron lives and leaves
>never see him again no matter what you choose
TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

200 HOURS OF CONTENT.

300 ENDINGS.
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>>382105502
answer the rest of the fucking post you misdirecting cuntbreath
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>>382105381
Not the faggot that is the OP but Tyranny has a bunch of choices with lasting effects.
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>>382104774
Verdammter Teufel
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>>382105161
you can choose how you die.

and maybe if you're super smart, one in 40k years genius you might find a way to become immortal.

stop being edgy and get on with your life

actually, you can just kys right now
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>>382105592

>Lives or dies
>polar opposite outcomes
>It doesn't matter apparently because he doesn't hang around

Sure throw up a bunch of arbitrary rules to disregard it. That's like saying killing off a main character in a book series doesn't matter.
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>>382105707
>polar opposite outcomes
>changes nothing
>affects nothing
CHOICES

THAT

MATTER
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>almost 70 posts in
>OP still deliberately avoiding defining what exactly "matters"
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>>382105707
>compares Baron to main character in a book series
Are you literally unironically retarded?

If main character in book series dies, he never appears ever again. But lives or dies, Baron never appears ever again - your choice changes nothing. Are you a honest to god retard?
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>dude shaving your beard doesn't matter because it's just gonna grow back
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>TW3 shills never an RPG before
You won't say.
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>>382105861
>Dude postmodernism lmoa everything is relative

The Kenny - Dyke choice had more consequences over the next game than Roche - Iorveth, let that sink in
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>>382105968
>next game
I wonder why :^)
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>>382105968
>more misdirecting
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>>382105893

What do you want to happen? It's the end of that characters story, dependent on how invested you are in that character the outcome of whether they die or not will matter.

If you're saying it doesn't matter then you would think the ending to any characters story doesn't matter whether book/film whatever.
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>>382103485
>tons of characters get slaughtered over your decisions
>they dont matter

??????????????
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>>382106132
he could stick around and you could ask him for help in kaer morhem later on in the story, like you do with dijkstra, keira, etc

oh wait, according to anon that wouldn't matter either because then he'd stop mattering after kaer morhem anyway

apparently anon's definition of "choices mattering" is if every person you help becomes a fulltime follower

or you can stop being a retard and realize we've been posting in a bait thread all along
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>>382106319

>or you can stop being a retard and realize we've been posting in a bait thread all along
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>>382106629
what did he mean by this
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>post proof of shitty writing
>shills can't refute it
>T-THIS IS B-BAIT THREAD, H-HAHA
Next they'll start pretending that second half of the game is not rushed and game had as much content cut as Mafia 2
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DUDE, IN THIS RPG YOUR CHOICES MATTER

in W2 you actually get a whole new chapter with a new location quest and characters depending on your choice in chapter 1 so there you go OP
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>>382105861
I think it's pretty clear that he wants choices that have consequences outside of their direct questline.

I'll make up a game so no one gets pissy at my choice instead of actually debating the point. In Space Master 7, you're infiltrating an enemy ship. Your friend, Bash Dakstar, has his cover blown. You have the choice to come clean and shoot it out, or to throw Bash under the bus.

This choice 'Not mattering' would be that either way, you get your reward (possibly a different reward depending on which you chose) and nothing comes of it again. If this choice mattered, it would have to change something else later on. Five hours into the game later, you're assaulting the space base Dark Athena. If you saved Bash, you get his space pirates as allies and have to shoot your way in the front door since the blown operation earlier meant you couldn't steal the access codes and disguises. If you threw Bash under the bus, it becomes a stealth and coercion mission where you have to sneak in and quietly sabotage the station instead of just shooting it.
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>>382106838
I really don't get how we've gone from CHOICES in TW2 to FUCK CHOICE, HE'RE BLAND LINEAR STORY in TW3. Fuck, even save import barely affects anything this time around, just look at this shit: http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Saved_game_import
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>>382106838
Most people who love Witcher 3 did not play 2, let alone 1
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>>382104073
>>382103485
>>382104836

what about this? >>382106838
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>>382106901

>Bloody Baron Questline
>Go to an Inn at near Hanged Mans Tree
>Some mercs walk in and start talkin shit
>Get the option to start shit with them or, intimidate them or offer to pay for their drinks
>If you start shit and kill them access to the Baron gets changed you get assaulted at the main gate and you have to sneak under his fort and come up through the well to meet him
>If you intimidate or pay for their drinks you gain direct access because the guards at the gate recognize you and they lead you directly to the Baron

Your example could also be applied to the like ~6 characters that you do quests with and then 30 hours down the line they come to your aid in battle.
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>>382106998
isn't it obvious

OPEN WORLD GAMEPLAY
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>>382106901
>I think it's pretty clear that he wants choices that have consequences outside of their direct questline.
but that's wrong because he mentioned kaer morhem several times

dijksta for instance only helps you out in kaer morhem (with items, but still) if you did the witch hunter quests a certain way, but it's still possible to complete them to get on with the storyline in other ways

Letho can only be accessed depending on your choices in The Witcher 2, after his quest is done (and he survives) he helps you out in kaer morhem

and something like that happens in the Witcher 3 as well, in that island with the frost giant in skellige, where you have the option to investigate some far-off cave or head straight to the jarl's son or whatever his name was, save the archer from being cooked alive by the trolls, then he follows you for the entirety of that quest
if he survives until the end he also comes help you and the jarl's son out in kaer morhem as well
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>>382106998
consoles and dumbing down for the dragon age normalfags
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>>382105694
>you can choose how you die

Say that to americans before they get randomly shot.
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>>382103918
The best possible outcome
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>>382103485
>382103485
DUDE BRO MAN JUST CHILL WATCH THIS 20m CUTSCENE BRO ITS SO CINEMATIC
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>>382103485
I want to do a playthrough where I get the unhappy endings for all the storylines and ruin all the chances to have sex.
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>>382107589
don't forget the optional "tell me more" options that force you to put down the popcorn and stop leaning back on your chair
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>>382107698

Just go outside and continue with your life
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>>382106838
In this surprisingly well made SRPG eroge, your choices do matter
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>>382103485
So the choices are like your opinion
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>Ciris fate is decided by a snowball fight

Top writing.
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>>382105592
/thread
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>>382107940
>Ciris fate is decided by how angry she is at Geralt
fixed that for you
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>>382107589
You mean prerendered cutscene?
>ending
>Ciri leaves, everyone should be sad
>she has a flashbacks to her interactions with Geralt where he has default hairstyle and starter outfit
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>>382107940
>If you weren't a cuck lapdog of the nazis, Ciri gets a bad end
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>>382107783
feelsaccurateman
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>>382108105
????
not taking her to see the emperor is a requirement for the good endings
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>>382107940
>writing is by favorite part of TW3

>only able to point you to the person who might've seen Ciri last based on vague dream with no sound after listening 10 minutes to Geralt describing person he needs to find
>able to vividly recreate a scene of regicide that happened in another universe, with perfect camera work and audible dialogue while knowing absolutely nothing of the people involved
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>>382108442
>>able to vividly recreate a scene of regicide that happened in another universe, with perfect camera work and audible dialogue while knowing absolutely nothing of the people involved
except that scene was not only completely non-canon, it fucking made the wild hunt into a generic "DUDE WE'RE EVIL LMAO" saturday morning cartoon villain
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>>382108105
There are multiple dialogue lines for "he's a faggot, but I guess we better go see the emperor now."

You can get the best ending and cuck the everloving fuck out of the Nilfshits.
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Witcher 3 is babby's first RPG. There's no role playing at all. You're just playing out a story. It's a Final Fantasy with an open world coat, which sullied the RPG name as well.
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>>382108442
>Dude let's condemn my entire race to die because Ciri is JUST THAT PRECIOUS PERFECT LITTLE HUNNYBUNS
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>>382105943
This is true.
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>dude, there is so much to do
>literally every sidequest is 'kill this cluster of monsters'
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be less mad and more comfy
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>>382107940
yeah this didn't make the sense. The choices were far too arbitrary. I mean, was there really NO other good memories with ciri and geralt that she could think back of when she was in the other dimension?
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>>382109087
>playing as Geralt (i.e. Geralt's role)
>not an RPG
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>>382109463
In that case, any game where you do not play yourself are role playing games.
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Anybody jack off during the sex scenes?
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Daily reminder that even FO4 has more choices that don't matter.
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>>382109463

>Madden
>Play as Peyton Manning (ie. Mannings role)
>Madden is now an RPG

>>382109559
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>>382109463
>playing as Doom Guy
>not an RPG
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>beat the base game
>got the DLCs recently
>couldn't be fucked doing the game all over again
>Hearts of Stone is great even if it's a pushover because of my endgame level and gear
>Want to hit the point where I feel like I'm exploring, finding cool new gear and constantly experiencing new things

Is Blood and Wine that good?
I wanna explore a new world as Geralt again.

>>382109463
>>382109559
Both of you are sort of wrong.
"Playing the role of Geralt" doesn't make it an RPG.
It is a "Role Playing Game" as it does adhere to typical RPG mechanics of you play one of the "roles" that a member of your party might play in an RPG-tank/damage dealer/elemental mage shitter/etc.

While in TW3 and a lot of these other "RPG"s you arguably play a jack-of-all-trades, your character gains experience, levels up and what skills you give him alter the optical way for him to perform, i.e what role he plays in any given combat situation.

Technically you'd say it's "RPG elements" but TW3 has enough gear/skills/alternate loadouts to pass I'd say.
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>>382103485
Choices never matter in games. They are always illusion of choices. What varies however is how well that illusion is implemented. Writing/coding hundreds of actual meaningful decisions would be extremely hard, if not borderline impossible.

Alpha Protocol is the ONLY game with well implemented choices.
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>>382109632
Hate news!
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>>382103564
fpbp
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>>382105161
But the time is different and it may affect other people differently
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>>382109774

Nope. If you don't create your character and make choices that define them it's not an RPG, it's an AdventureĀ© game.
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>>382109774
>Is Blood and Wine that good?

Yes. It's actually slightly better than HoS
and prettier
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>>382109426
What lighting mod?
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>>382110025
Name off some RPG games then.
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>>382103987
>>382104073

I don't see what's so wrong about this.

>Go visit extended family
>Some move to different states
>Just cause I don't see them any more it means they're just as good as dead

See how you faggots sound? Then you wonder why people don't take your opinions seriously. It's not because they disagree with you, it's because you say dumb shit all the time.
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>>382103485
>kills centipedes
>Villagers start farming

Looks like it matters to me
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>>382110141

Most of the infinity engine games
Nwn 1 and 2
Fallout
Dragons dogma
Mountain Blade
Fagon Age/Fag Effect qualify even if they're bad
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>>382110325
>can call your family
>can visit your family
>can mail your family
>your family can visit you
>THEY'RE AS GOOD AS DEAD xD
I wouldn't be surprised if you're as black and dumb as your picrelated.
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>>382110421
Dragons Dogma is an action adventure though. Which is much more fun than TW3.
>tfw we'll never get DD2 with world that looks as pretty as TW3
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>>382108442

I wanted to poke her butt with my dong, but Witcher 3 didn't let you sex anyone. Witcher 1 would have. I haven't check on the Witcher 3 modding scene in a long time but if there is a mod that allows you to sex the major countless female quest characters, I'd do it. Gerald is after all, a poon hound.
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>>382110421
>Dragon's Dogma

What choices do you make in Dragon's Dogma that define your character?
What choices do you make in Mount and blade that define your character?

Reminder that choices which have a moral/story impact-such as
>X likes/does not like Y after this choice
>X lives/dies after this choice
>the ending changes in any way due to this choice
>the protagonists fate/relationships are alter by this choice
are all present in TW3.

Choices such as "what class/skills to invest in" are also in TW3.

I'd even argue the same for Mass Effect/Dragon Age but because they are party based they fit into the slot a good lot better.
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>>382108442
>not wanting to bone the thiccest girl in the Northern Kingdoms
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>>382110698

>triss
>yen
>shani
>keira metz
>iron maiden
>syanna
>bunch of whores
>that old whore
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>>382110491

Yeah, you do sound like a kid. You missed the entire point of the post. I'll make it much simpler. Years can go by but just because you aren't interacting with someone doesn't mean it's the same as they being dead. When you grow up, and out of your teens, you'll see it as well.
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>>382110698
>you can only fugg filthy ovendodging sorceresses

Who thought this was a good idea?
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Name a modern RPG with more consequential choices than W3
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>>382103807
Zero? No
One? No
Two? Yes
this your first time using a brain, kid?
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>>382111058
Utawarerumono
"Which loli you want to fuck"
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>>382106236
OP is having an existential crisis.
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>>382111218
>rolling in combat
>the dodge button is right there
>superior swallow and superior thunderbolt equipped
>no oils/potions
>yrden equipped
>crossbow equipped
>for a leshen

"I HATE using game mechanics!"
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>>382110734

For those 2 games mostly mechanical/stat based choices, dd actually is more action/adventure than RPG so I'll give you that. Mountain Blade you make all sorts of choices though, you define your character background/stats and the whole game is also a freeform roleplay where you choose what your character does and why

Witcher has choices but not in terms of the character you play as, that's the missing element. If the developer created the character for me and defined their background/personality/motivations then I'm not really role-playing, I'm just along for the ride
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>>382111218
>le cherrypicked webm episode
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>>382111417
but that's not the point desu... look at the fucking lack of hitboxes
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>>382111218
works on my machine
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>>382111418
In Mountain Blade you make "choices at the start" which are basically sorting your class-although it doesn't tell you what changes what stat.
After that, you make 0 decisions that define your character other than what stats to level and how to make more money/build the power you have-both of these can be done in TW3 in a few ways.

What about FF games? Those are undeniably RPGs, with parties and skills and varied ways to level people and play the game based on their level, and so on.

Is a game not an RPG if you can't create a character from scratch and decide his/her motivations, goals and personality? I think we both know that's a little silly.


>>382111517
>hitboxes
I don't want to sound like a TW3-Kun but if the hitboxes were 100% accurate then how Geralt moves would have to be totally redesigned as would many bosses.

Rolling and such is meant for much bigger enemies where more ground is required.
Dodges with Leshen's are the key way where you "dodge" the move.

Leshen's are something of a cherrypick as they unironically have some of the fewest animations of all the creatures in game, but the OP of that webm clearly doesn't use half the mechanics in the game and if he did then he would have zero issues.

Leshen's are cool.
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>>382111218
Autism. Literal, actual, autism.
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>>382111417
>>382111430
>>382111781
>>382111845
and here are the witchercucks, right on schedule
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Why can't we get a linear story driven game as massive as Witcher 3 though? Open world is a cancer now.
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>>382111902
>literally no counterarguments at all
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>>382111845
>140 results

who the fuck are these people? where do they find the time?
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>>382107940
Sometimes your death is determined by delaying a trip to the grocery store. Decide where the goal post is going to stay and leave it there.
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>>382112008
your shitty cocksucking excuses aren't arguments in the first place, kid
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>>382112031
>my stomach literally hurts from not eating today
>too lazy to go down to the store or even mcdonalds
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>tfw no matter how hard people shitpost and bait retards on /v/ TW3 will always be remembered as an incredible masterpiece and CD-Projekt Red will always be hailed as god-tier devs

I don't even like The Witcher but the asshurt is fun

Fucking Poland ruining it all for everyone again
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>>382112172
Based on the quality of your posts I really wouldn't expect more from you

I hope you continue to neglect eating until you starve to death and your body starts to consume itself
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>>382103987
>dude, you can save Baron's wife!
>dude, you can make Baron kill himself!

One choice makes people feel awful when they get it and the other doesn't. I think it's pretty amazing that a video game is even capable of that. Agonizing over moral choices as if they were actual people.

>>382111517
I don't even understand how the original anon keeps missing the leshen. Witcher 3 has auto-aim. It's idiot proof. There's a dodge button made entirely for dodging yet he never uses it and somehow keeps rolling past the enemy. Of course people also post obvious glitches as well so maybe he's pretending to be retarded.
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>>382112172
thanks for the blog retard weebshit

hope you starve soon
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>>382111781

>What about FF

Adventure, JRPG is a misnomer

>Is a game not an RPG if you can't create a character from scratch and decide his/her motivations, goals and personality? I think we both know that's a little silly.

Just using the original pnp-derived definition, JRPGs ruined the term but it used to mean something pretty specific and not just "level ups = RPG"
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>>382112027
Never underestimate the power of autistic people anon. They think to themselves that "lol gonna trigger some witcherkeks xddd" without realising that nobody actually cares and that they're just wasting their own time.
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>>382112486
>JRPG is a misnomer

Such a dumb argument. Games like Breath of Fire and Dragon Quest, the most famous RPGs ever, aren't RPGs and the only "true rpg" is some abstraction in a 4channers head.
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>>382112486
If you fail to see why a different set of rules might apply to a video game than a tabletop game than a video game, particularly considering the costs involved with both, then you're a retard.

You don't have to create a character for it to be an RPG.

RPGs are games where you develop your character or characters through choosing what skills they have.
Some RPGs are more intricate than others.

A game where you "level up" isn't necessarily an RPG but a game where you gain more power over time and can specialise what a character/characters excel it over other things as you gain power is an RPG.
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>Fringilla Vigo is in the game
>does nothing
>says like 3 lines
>ignored entirely in B&W
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>>382110828
>not wanting
More like not being able, pham
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>>382112275
>tfw no matter how hard people shitpost and bait retards on /v/ Skyrim will always be remembered as an incredible masterpiece and Bethesda will always be hailed as god-tier devs
Wish I was joking.
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>>382114117
Nah, even the most casual of people are already buying into the "Bethesda make shitty buggy games" memes and open admit to not liking the games without mods.
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>>382114313
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt
Keep crying, kiddo.
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>>382114462
>ratings
>arguments
LOL
O
L

what are you going to link next, twitch views?
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>>382104941
>Iorveth and Saskia used you, got their shit done.
>Roche is still fighting for Temeria/the north.
Makes sense that he's the one to show up and not the Scoi'tael, which have done nothing but make it easier for Nilfgaard to conquer the north.
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>>382114560
>I'll post the number of awards TW3 won in every thread
>but higher ratings and awards of other games don't matter
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>>382104073
>Kill my parents
>They die
>Save my parents
>They live
WOW, THIS CHANGES SO MUCH!
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>>382103485
Kierra can die or help you. You can be tricked by the ghost or help end the plague. Kids die Baron saves his wife or kids live Baron kills himself. Ciri can have three different endings. You influence who holds the power over the continent. What game did you play?
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>>382115049
>Kill my parents
>They die
>You go to prison and ruin your life
>Save my parents
>They live
>They continue to support you / help you in your life
?

Witcher shills are just baiting at this point or something?
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>>382114462

>xbox-360
>PC

wow, you are such a clever boy.

now, let try PC to PC version comparison...

W3 - 9.3 / 11k ratings
SKR - 8.2 / 9k ratings

Keep crying, kiddo
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>>382105592
>a character lives or dies but it doesn't matter
It doesn't have to be game changing to be important, one choice feels like you did alright, the other clearly shows that you fucked up.
And besides, it's not even a real choice, but the conclusion of the Baron arc, unpredictable consequence of an earlier choice you had to make which actually mattered at the time.
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>>382115103
>Kierra can die or help you
Changes nothing, Keira and Lambert are out of the game after that point in any case.
>You can be tricked by the ghost or help end the plague.
That affects nothing but a line in character bios and dialogue with Keira.
>Kids die Baron saves his wife or kids live Baron kills himself.
Out of the game right after anyway.
>You influence who holds the power over the continent.
Okay, but only affects ending slides, changes nothing in the game.
>What game did you play?
The one that is out and not one you came up with in your mind?
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>>382115241
>now, let try PC to PC version comparison...
>8.2
You mean 94%.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim

Oh wait...
>user ratings
>on the website where there's no roof you even played the game
>where dummy accounts are easily made in seconds
Witchercucks are getting desperate lmao
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>>382104073
You let Roche live and he'll actually back you up at Kahr Mohren.
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Why are elves/non humans such cucks in the Witcher? Didn't the world originally belong to them? How did they become the africans of Witcher lore?
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>>382115374
>CHOICES DON'T MATTER THEY CHANGE NOTHING IN THE GAME
>EXCEPT THE BATTLE FOR KAER MORHEM BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I SAY SO
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Just started playing for the first time

I fucked Triss in the lighthouse

If I fuck Yennefer when I get the chance will I get the ending where both want nothing to do with me?

I haven't made up my mind about which one I want yet
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>>382115374
It's a story based game, you can't say X or Y doesn't matter because characters are out of the game, whatever happens to them matters story-wise even if it's only mentioned in the credit slides.

And besides, Keira living means she gets to help at Kaer Morhen, and more happens if Lambert survives, so it matters gameplay wise too.
Also, the tree spirit kills the nearby villagers if you free it, matters as well since there's a merchant there initially, and if they're dead it's full of wraiths.
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>>382115994
If you tell both of them you love them you'll get the bad end.
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>>382116064
Can I at least dip my prick in both?
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>>382115994
if you fuck both of them you'll get dandelion
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>>382116129
Yeah.
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>>382115241
Skyrim has a 94 on pc
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>>382115994
Depends if Triss came back to you by herself of if you tried to stop her.
If you're cool enough with her in the Novigrad arc, she'll turn back and stay with you even if you don't stop her and it's the only way to fug both without being cucked.
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>>382104313
Reminder that Mad Rad was in the right, magic is an abomination
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>>382116240
Told her I loved her because I just wanted Geralt to get his dick wet. I thought it was the only way
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>>382115968
>one extra NPC that does nothing
>CHOICE THAT MATTERS
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>>382116048
>It's a story based game
Is it, really? The story is the weakest part of TW3, especially post-Kaer Morhen defense. Turns into a complete joke by the end.
I found TW3 the most enjoyable where you get to just run around the world exploring shit. Just like Skyrim.
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>>382116471
>running around the world clearing map makers from hordes of downers for vendor garbage
>fun
opinion discarded
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>>382116294

Radovid kills my bro Kalkstein, unforgivable
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>>382116604
>hunting a saturday night cartoon villain and watching hours of linear dialogues filled with janky animations and plot holes
>fun

>opinion discarded
indeed.
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>>382116471
That doesn't make it less story based.
Not everyone is receptive to the same stuff.
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>>382116832
i'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth, retarded witchercuck
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>>382116604
>gameplay is shit, cutscenes are much better
Why not watch a movie instead then?
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>>382116936
>anon doesn't like black so he must like white
witchercucks are THIS retarded
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>>382116309

Triss is the patrician choice anyway

Avoid Yen at all costs
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>>382115510
>>382116236

>crittics and game press opinions is what matters!
>m-m-uh false accounts!

don't you have a kotaku or neo-gaf forum to post?
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>>382111845
I like this guy personally
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>>382104723
inertia is a property of matter
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>>382103485
>tfw you are still butthurt over tw3 being superior game

These threads are getting boring, desu.
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>>382116753
>Ciri gets Kalkstein killed off-screen

Thanks CDPR
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>>382117330
>this buttmad about 97%
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>>382117930
>nonwhite appears in a game
>MUH SJWS
fuck off pol
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>>382107940
Considering that she's supposed to save the world from an ice age, a snowball fight is actually a really neat foreshadowing
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>>382117725

This is news to me, how did Ciri get involved at all?
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>>382118012
>TW universe has no blacks
>TW3 has no blacks
>SJW make a big deal out of that
>suddenly first DLC gets black characters shoved into it for no reason
B-but muh /pol/ amirite?
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>>382103485
>it's one of those episodes where OP is a faggot

just keep being yourself OP
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>>382110121
That's vanilla
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>>382111218
nice pre-alpha webm
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>>382118360
>what is Zerrikania
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>>382118360
>TW universe has no blacks
The main villain is literally african
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>>382103987
This post is 100% correct, even if Radovid "wins" the war after the game, the Nilfgardian army and encampments are still out there for no reason.
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>>382118360
>don't read the books
>think you know shit about the lore
yes, /pol/ indeed
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>>382118580
>>382118596
>tanned slavs = blacks
Nice try, Jerome and Tyrone.
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>>382118756
>Reading videogame books
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>>382118804
>tanned slavs

fuck you
t. slav
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>>382119070
>thinking book videogames are videogame books
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>>382119070
Joking or tarded?
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>please release me from my prison mister
>"Okay I will"
>HAHAHA I WAS THE EVIL SPIRIT ALL ALONG *kills questgiver*

So.... This is the power... of quality quest writing...
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>>382119070
>get BTFO so hard you go full retard trying to damage control
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>>382119316
how else would you write it, faggot?
>hey i'm an evil spirit please release me and i promise i won't kill anyone
oh wait that was literally pic related
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>>382119070

>I'm ignorant and I'm proud of it!

Please, don't be American. We already have a bad rep due to imbeciles like you running wild
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>>382119316
I hated that 95% of quests come with two GOTCHA choices that fuck up something. it's nice to have these once in a while, but when all the quests are like that you just stop caring at one point.
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>>382119525

There was no way to tell she would fuck you over.
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>>382119695
>you just stop caring at one point
Such is the life of a Witcher
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>>382103564
This, I could choose not to die from cancer, but it doesn't matter.
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>>382119753
yes there was you turbo retard
there was a fucking fresh corpse downstairs and she even stutters "i-i don't know w-what you're talking about" like a fucking child trying to tell its first lie when you ask her about it
she even outright says there's no other monsters else in the tower
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>>382119753
>no way to tell
Ominous voice that keeps switching between male and female and says shit like "every life is the same" while sitting under a mountain littered with corpses is not enough for you? How many red flags do you need to get the hint?
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>>382119753
the face of a man responsible for batman senses to be in the game
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>>382119753

>finding fresh bodies scattered around
>she keep telling different things when reffering if she's able to leave the tower or not
>become angry when asked about what happened here recently

Try to read/listen to the dialgoues and use your fucking brain next time, instead of just blindly clicking next dialogue options
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>CDPR writing
Thanks but no thanks.
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>>382120257
Good bants to the other devs
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>>382120257
This from the fucking company that saw no issue with extorting random Germans.
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>>382119753
i'm sorry you were born with low functioning autism to be able to miss the ghosts's constant stuttering when asked about literally anything anon

you'll probably think this post is legitimately sorry you were born with autism too
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>>382120257

>making fun from retarded practices in gaming industry
>C-C-CRINGE!

Have you bought your membership in Bethesdaā„¢ Creation Clubā„¢ already, my dear anon?
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>>382120257
This is pretty funny considering just a few years ago the company tried to sue anyone that pirated TW2.
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>>382120404

>Blaming a polish company for retarded legal regulations issued by german goverment

>>382120840

>Because they releasing games without DRM it's perfectly OK to pirate them!

Are you two related? Or maybe your parents were related?
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>>382121067
>Blaming a polish company for retarded legal regulations issued by german goverment
The only thing the German government did is make their laws stacked against the consumer. CDPR chose to make use of that to extort random Germans until it blew up in their face. Again, the only thing stopping CDPR from extortion is PR pressure.
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>>382120787
>>382121067
Official CDPR shill squad is already here, I see.
>TW2 is PC exclusive, suck it cucksoles!
>TW2 is consolized as fuck
>gets a console release later
>w-whatever, no other company does free DLCs at least!
>TW3 comes out
>even more casualized
>must be retarded to play it on KB/M instead of gamepad it was clearly made for
>PC version gutted so it doesn't look much better than console ones
>season pass
B-B-BASED CDPR AMIRITE?
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>>382121559

Who are you quoting?
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>>382121559
you are platinum mad
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>>382122003
Explain? You don't see me defending a company that fucks their community up the ass with every game.
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>>382103485
>the manner in which you support Ciri during rough moments has an effect on the ending of the game
>your choices don't matter at all
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>>382122481
>get to pick which of the three 5 minute cutscenes you get as an epilogue
how many times are witchercucks going to repeat this """""argument"""""?
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>>382117156
Who is this guy?
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>>382122253

W3 wouldn't have nearly the same amount of profit without a console release. There's really no defending needed. Say what you want about consoles plebs but they're the ones buying full priced games at release. Nobody really cares that a gorillion PC gamers bought it when it was 90% off on steam.

There's a reason why no other big publisher sunk effort and finding on a AAA PC exclusive that can only run on high end machines since Crysis.
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>>382124218
Yeah, take that slav cock up the ass you bitch. Learn who your master is.
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>>382124372

Understanding how the game industry works is not really the same as kidding slav ass.
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>>382124218
>Nobody really cares that a gorillion PC gamers bought it when it was 90% off on steam.
that's an odd way of spelling "pirated it"
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>>382109909
Oh look this retard is wrong again
>>
Lot of posts mention Kaer Morhen as a counter argument even though the outcome of the battle is always the same no matter what you do. None of the characters you can recruit actually do anything in the battle beyond getting some screen time to acknowledge their presence. The battle always ends the same anyway and the plot continues exactly as scheduled regardless of your choices.
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>>382125747
>outcome of a battle is either win or lose, but lose = game over
wow anon your iq must be like ten million
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>>382103564
dude nihilism lmao
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>>382107940
Its more like her will to stay alive for you is strengthened by you treating her like the loved one she sees you as instead of the tool everyone else sees her as.

Also
>I know, hurr durr the books
In the novels shes constantly tossed around like a tool and no one beside geralt and yennifer ever treat her as anything more.
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>>382125962
>tfw I actually reloaded to see what would happen if you don't recruit anyone
>outcome is the exact same.
>witcherfaggot still claims otherwise.
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If you let Keira Metz in some side quest go and see Radaviod instead of what ever the other option is, you dont hear anything about it until later, you find out Radavoid impaled in body onto a spike and you get a new quest where you can remove her body from the spike, so I guess that's one I can think of off the top of my head, there are plenty more.
>>
agreed the game was a huge step down from the W2 in terms of narrative
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>>382103485
Witcher 2 did a much better job at this.

>Witcher 2 decision
>Should I leave Flotsam with Roche and play the gritty meme of thrones questline or with Iorveth and get the fantastical lord of the rings questline

>Witcher 3 decision
>Should I kill Radovid and get nothing but a two minute quest and a narrated illustration at the end of the game
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>tfw can't find white gull anywhere
>tfw already level 38 using shit gear and subpar alchemy because I don't have the white gull recipe
>tfw it's RNG

JUST GIVE ME THE WHITE GULL RECIPE YOU STUPID FUCK MERCHANTS
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>>382131642
You have the recipe from start, under Alcohol.
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Every witcher fags in this thread don't get it.
Tw1 : Chose scoiathel : Wow you can side with them later in the game. Chose shani over triss, wow she shows up at the ending level.
Tw2 let's not even talk about it, it has the most choices/effect of the serie.
God even mass effect or kotor do this correctly.

In tw3 your choices only affect dialogue and cutscenes. THATS ALL. (oops i forgot liberating some useless villages that no one cares about).
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>>382127221
Thats a nice touch, though no one cares about that because it didn't affect your playthrough at all.
You will still have the same linear story that every one had.
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>>382132128
I don't though and can't find it at any herbalist, alchemist, merchant, or the world
>>
Your choices affect what happens to Baron and his wife, who becomes the next king of Skellige, who fights with you at Kaer Morhen, what happens to the Baron's unborn baby, what happens to the hymn that possessed the elder in Skellige. That's just what I got at the top of my head, it's been a while since I played. I know there are a bunch of choices in the expansions, too. Fantastic game overall.
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>>382132236
>Chose shani over triss, wow she shows up at the ending level.
and if you help out your friends in Novigrad, Velen and Skellige they show up at the Kaer Morhen fight. Hell if you simulate a Witcher 2 save even Letho can show up. Stay BTFO, shitposter.
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>>382103485
Choices are an illusion everything is deterministic.
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>>382133153
Doesn't affect the gameplay at all. They were useless and the game was already too much easy at that point.
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>>382133617
>your choices dont matter
>yes they are heres all these choices trhat have a clear effect on the game
>oh well those dont count
hahaha great thread OP
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>>382133812
yea, these were optionnal quest that every one had. And at the end no one cared about them since they are useless and doesn't bring anything to a fight that is already as piss.
Shows how much this game is linear when you have to pick that kind of exemples for a fucking open world RPG.
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>>382134087
youre already backpedaling from your original argument. the game has choices that affect the outcome of the game and the games quests. if you dont like them then play a different game that you do like but dont spout nonsense

do you crave attention that much?
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>>382127138
what the fuck are you smoking? of course the fucking outcome is always going to be a win, because losing that fight means the antagonists win
are you retarded?
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>>382132946
>Your choices affect what happens to Baron and his wife,
either both die or both vanish from the game forever, i.e. no difference
not an argument
>who becomes the next king of Skellige
makes literally no difference, it's always the guy who's meant to be king who comes help you in kaer morheim anyway
not an argument
>who fights with you at Kaer Morhen
most characters are never seen again after kaer morhem
none of those characters make a significant difference in the battle
not an argument
>what happens to the Baron's unborn baby
the one you never see again after you kill it/purify it?
not an argument
>what happens to the hymn that possessed the elder in Skellige.
no difference, he gets better either way, even if you stop doing the quest right before the finale when he's at his worst he inexplicable gets better and is ready to pass judgement on the berserker mystery, the finale for the who gets to be the jarl questline
not an argument
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This game would be so much better without Ciri and everything that entails her
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>>382135761
don't bully my waifu
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>>382135435
>either both die or both vanish from the game forever, i.e. no difference
Either his wife dies and the Baron hangs himself or his wife becomes a monster, the Baron takes him to a healer and he repents. Either way, your choice has a direct affect on what happens to multiple characters

>makes literally no difference, it's always the guy who's meant to be king who comes help you in kaer morheim anyway
That's factually incorrect, in fact it's heavily implied Cerys was the better choice because her mission involves actually learning the truth and Skellige ends up flourishing under her, as opposed to being involved in violent conflicts.

>most characters are never seen again after kaer morhem
>none of those characters make a significant difference in the battle
Well you can still beat the Wild Hunt without them so the game can actually continue as >>382134479 pointed out , but they help you out. Keira ends up fucking Lambert if you bring her (you can also just kill her for lying to you, another choice)

>not an argument
>not an argument
>not an argument
>not an argument
Oh, you're one of those posters. They actually are arguments because they disprove the notion that choices don't matter. The argument you're trying to make is that you don't personally like the choices, which is a different argument altogether, so you're backpedaling like crazy.

This will be my final (You), you've been BTFO enough as it is.
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>>382111103
>every semantic process
>every
I hope you can add up the rest
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>>382138195
>Either his wife dies and the Baron hangs himself or his wife becomes a monster, the Baron takes him to a healer and he repents. Either way, your choice has a direct affect on what happens to multiple characters
no they don't because they stop existing when you complete that quest regardless if they live or die

>That's factually incorrect, in fact it's heavily implied Cerys was the better choice because her mission involves actually learning the truth and Skellige ends up flourishing under her, as opposed to being involved in violent conflicts.
so the only difference is that 10 seconds of the skellige jarl scene in the ending cinematic
this is supposed to help your side of the argument how?

>Well you can still beat the Wild Hunt without them so the game can actually continue as >>382134479 pointed out , but they help you out. Keira ends up fucking Lambert if you bring her (you can also just kill her for lying to you, another choice)
and, again, characters stop existing regardless if they live or die

>Oh, you're one of those posters. They actually are arguments because they disprove the notion that choices don't matter. The argument you're trying to make is that you don't personally like the choices, which is a different argument altogether, so you're backpedaling like crazy.
imagine being this delusional

>This will be my final (You), you've been BTFO enough as it is.
witchercuck runs away from an argument he knows he can't win, classic
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>>382103485
>shitcher
>rpg
my fucking sides
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>>382138941
>witchercuck runs away from an argument he knows he can't win, classic

You've avoided responding to every post in which you've been beaten the fuck out.

>>382128426
>>382126378
>>382112391
>>382115367

Is it any wonder that everyone's gradually stopped bothering with you?
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>>382103485
I wish /v/ was ready to admit the game wasn't that good.
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>>382110938
>that old whore
who?
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Not all rpgs give you complete freedom now go fuck yourself
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>>382141319
/v/'s pretty much the only locale on the web that argues it isn't because /v/ has an extraordinarily limited idea of what qualifies as a good game (mostly combat related) and is too autistic to understand why people play games in the first place. The later leads to utter confusion regarding why critics like the Witcher so much ("maybe it's the graphics").
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>>382134479
this is the actual outcome you fucking mongoloid
>vesemir always dies
>key story characters always survive
>ciri always decides to help avallach
why do you keep talking about win/lose?
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>>382116294
>Our only chance against the monsters is an abomination! He says a a vampire drinks his blood.
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