Monster Hunter Trailer is view botted. I glanced over a thread

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>>382094269
>He likes/dislikes videos
>People are obliged to reach a certain percentage of likes/dislikes because everyone is the same

>>382094427
???

Anyway I found another metric for comparison. The Spider Man PS4 trailer got 20k comments while the Monster Hunter World Trailer got 3k comments.

The Monster Hunter Gameplay trailer that has 6x less views than the reveal trailer also has more comments than the reveal trailer.

>Why the fuck would Capcom so blatantly bot the video? It's not like millions of people are gonna see a youtube video has a lot of views and say "hey I better spend $60 on this game now." What is even the benefit?
It's to dissuade investors from pulling out. Has nothing to do with the consumer.

>>382094269
Have you ever considered the fact that 1 million fans might have watched it 8 times? No? You're an idiot OP.

fucking retard, just because a video has views doesnt mean people like it.
i would literally beat you up in real life for being so dumb.

>>382094532
Oh so you think they're just trying to trick retarded investors to put more money into their company. I could see that. Video game investors tend to be really dumb, like the fact they tell Nintendo to put all their games on smart phones when it would kill their income since smart phone games only sell for a dollar.

Also another interesting fact, the gameplay trailer with 1.8 m views is set to allow you to check view statistics while the more viewed 8.1 m view reveal trailer is set to not allow you to check view statistics.

>>382094575
But the other Monster Hunter trailer which has more likes and comments has only 1.8 m views? So you're telling me people watched the reveal trailer 8 times but watched the gameplay trailer only once?

Nintenbros are this BTFO that they need to cry about view botting! SAD!

>>382094897
Look, when I saw the thread talking about this a few days ago I completely blew it off as retarded conspiracy nonsense. But how the fuck does it have less comments and likes than the other trailer for the same game, yet it had 6-7x more views?

>>382094897
What does this have to do with Nintendo?

>>382094980
Maybe because it's a Japanese game and Japanese people may interact less with this kind of stuff in total than westerners?

>>382094980
It's definitely view botted, but who cares? Every company does shit like this.
>>382095014
Nothing. It's called shitposting.

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>>382094269
Or Spiderman has view bots that 'like' their videos

Maybe people didn't want to click either

>>382095014
There's a reason the "b-but nintendo" mspaint comic exists.

>>382094269
Who fucking likes videos?

>>382095234
>>382095126
I made comparisons with another trailer from the same game so those explanations don't work.

Also I want to emphasize, Monster Hunter world will be a good game. I have no doubt whatsoever Monster Hunter world will be a good game. I was just floored by the amount of botting which is why I made a thread.

>>382095126
But i thought this was supposed to be a westernized monhun :thinking:

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>>382094269
> It's Westernized!
Buzzword that means nothing.
> It's not a 'real' Monster Hunter!
Made by the A team and confirmed for MH5.
> It's for casuals!
Doesn't have hunter arts.
>View Botting!
Holy fuck, are Switch owners THIS assblasted?

Say what you want about Sonybros, at least they didn't bitch this much and have a total meltdown when MH left the PSP.

>>382094697
It was shit bait anon, don't reply to retards

>>382095343
>>382095352
But it's still MH, they still care. It's like if they were a super Japanese CoD. We'd still be discussing it.

>>382094501
Weird, it's like Spiderman is more recognizable worldwide than Monster Hunter....

>>382095126
It's the English trailer, you complete and total retard.

>>382095014
Some butthurt nintendobaby has been forcing his """research""" on supposedy botted MHW trailer for at least a week in every MH thread.

>>382094269

This shit happens literally all the time. With every trailer ever. There are services out there where you can buy views for videos. Some even sell comments.

There isn't a single developer out there who has not bought views/likes/comments for the trailer for their newest game. It's standard practice.

Please don't start a console war in this thread. This thread isn't about Monster Hunter World as a game but about the view botting. If you want to discuss Monster Hunter World as a game go make a new thread.

>>382094269
>this is how desperate they've gotten

>>382095362
>confirmed for mh5
Just like SJ was SMT4, right? Stupid fishposter.

>>382095470
>Please don't start a console war in this thread.
You already did, OP.
>This thread isn't about Monster Hunter World as a game but about the view botting.
Then it's an off-topic thread, because Youtube video viewbotting is not video games.

>>382095678
I know that avoiding a console war altogether with MHW is impossible but that's not why I made the thread. I guess you could argue this is off topic. I'm not sure where else I could have posted this though. I checked if there was a Monster Hunter thread up but there wasn't.

Capcom is desperate to make it seem that more people are interested in World than there actually are. Normies literally waved off World the moment it was shown off because they literally do not care about Monster Hunter, and this is another shitty attempt at Capcom trying to make one of their franchises "appeal to a wider audience".

Are they Amazon wish list botting? It's #19 there.

Switchfags are quickly becoming the most cancerous community on /v/.

>>382095779
Sorry I don't know how Amazon wish list works or even how to check it.

>>382095878
Fuck off Sonyqueer. I'll have you know I also own all other consoles and a gaming pc

>>382095893
https://www.amazon.com/gp/most-wished-for/videogames/ref=zg_m_bs__mw

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>>382095994
>MHW is on all major platforms
>"Fuck off Sonyqueer"

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>>382096158
>Sony fans were forcing the MH5 at E3 shit like months beforehand
>Implying they're not the ones still forcing it
>As if Xbox fans care
>As if PC fans aren't too busy spending their Christmas savings on Steam sales

>>382094634
Square is doing well with the whole 20 buck mobile games.

>>382094269
>I just made a thread because I was blown away by how much they botted their trailer.
I just comment because I was blown away by how much of a tinfoil idiot you are.

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>>382096448
Fuck off Poland-kun

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>>382096448
>*lock*

>>382095234
>This lasted for like a day
>Yoshi was on there for a week after E3
>Woolly World only sold 1.5 million on WiiU
This shit is going to crash and burn.

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>>382096549
>Console warring at 4 AM
Fuck off Yuropoor

>>382094269
The game isn't going to come out on the switch, just deal with it

>>382096629
Games are more expensive in europe, idiot

An american would have to work five jobs to make it one day in europe

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>>382094269
>nobody's posted it yet
Here you go

>>382096874
>>Games are more expensive in europe, idiot
>But Yuropoors are clearly shown to be the biggest buyers for dudebro shit
>Yuropoor education

Not surprised, nu-capcom treats us like dumbasses, they thought they could get away with SFV

>>382097091
And re-reSF2
And MvCI

maybe monster hunter fans are plebeians who like subscribe comment and upvote?

if it was being view botted I would think it would hit more like 3 mil too. I suspect its more of the same people viewing it again and again to deconstruct mechanics and differences from the mainline series.

I still think normies aren't gonna eat it up the way some suspect.

>>382094269
>Monster Hunter Trailer is view botted
Why are people so desperate to come up with this shit just because of views to rating ratio is not the same as the normie games?

>>382097324
Speaking of which. Before this shitposting thread gets cleaned up.
How do youtube views even work? Can the same person give more than one view to the video if they watch it multiple times?
Do you have to watch the entire thing, without skipping? Or does simply opening a video count?
What about the featured video on some profiles' main page? It automatically starts playing then you open the page, does it count as a view?

>>382097598
Auto views don't count. Skipped ads don't count. After 300 views they check for unique views. 1 device can only give 1 view under normal circumstances. They will set a certain amount of time watched to count a view. Looping does not count.

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>>382094269

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>>382096387

>tinfoil idiot

Not OP, but you're a retard if you don't find it extremely suspicious that the like/view ratio of a youtube video is so off.
Anon, you can like the game without being in denial about something so fucking obvious.

>>382098678
>extremely suspicious like/view ratio of a youtube video
Nobody in sound mind would even think about some insignificant and far-fetched bullshit like this.
That's exactly why he called you a tinfoil idiot. And he was right in doing so.

>>382098796
SEETHING. Hope you're buying 50 copies or it's coming back to Nintendo for good.

>>382099061
>SEETHING
Is this some code phrase used by nintendobabies to be identified and get banned easier?

>>382098796

I just said I'm not OP in the beginning of my post, if your reading comprehension is anything to go by, it's no fucking surprise you lack common sense. Look at all the examples provided for the views, likes, and comments:

>>382096997

Every E3 trailer has a normal amount of likes for the number of views it has, except for Monster Hunter, which has a ridiculously low number of likes/dislikes for the number of views it has. Any explanation you can come up with would be far more fucking far-fetched than the video simply being view-botted, which is no fucking surprise because Capcom is trying to push MH to be more mainstream.

>>382099191
>>382097868

>>382099259
>I-I'm not OP! I swear!

>>382099259
I'm a long time MH player and I never, ever like/dislike or comment on youtube, because why the fuck would I waste as much as moving a finger to do something unnecessary as that? Am I a bot now?
This entire "like/view ratio" argument is so arbitrary and nonsensical it isn't worth time thinking about, let alone making threads day after day.

>>382099415

It's funny because I know for a fact I'm not OP, and you're the one fooling yourself into thinking that. I win but you don't know it.

>>382099661

You're implying MH fans will all have the same mentality and not like or comment on a MH video. Okay, I'll tell you I watched the trailer too, and I liked the video, now we can conclude the video was view-botted, because I liked the video so that must mean everyone else is like me and liked it.
If you think the argument isn't working thinking about then don't discredit people who actually made the observation and found evidence while you just ignore it.

>>382100336

isn't worth* thinking about

>>382094575
Japan is treating it as a spin-off.
The reception of this thing on it's target market, the US PS4 user-base, is very well reflected on the crowd of the Sony conference after the reveal.
This thing is dead on arrival.

>>382094269
Now THIS is autism!

>>382100484
>Being this upset that monster hunter is finally evolving
wew

>>382100484

I thought it was kind of funny how so many people thought the beginning of the Mario Odyssey trailer was Monster Hunter, even after it was revealed it's a regular T-Rex. Just shows the series is so niche nobody knows shit about it.

>>382100336
The idea that "Monster Hunter fans just don't like/dislike/comment YouTube videos" is already discredited in the OP. The Monster Hunter World gameplay video has 1/6 of the view count but 3,000 more likes/dislikes compared to the reveal trailer.

Was it just me or did that big T-rex on the gameplay trailer have a really disgusting looking protruding fleshy thing that pops out of his head when it gets enraged, like it looks like a fucking tumor or something.

Why are people denying this? It's obvious viewbotting

>>382101361
No, you're thinking of Mario Odyssey

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>>382094269

>>382101435
My guess it's that its ebin trolls falseflagging because it's hilarious to argue against something that is so obviously true, making their side look pathetic

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>>382101528
No that fucking cancer looking thing right there you nonce, it looks fucking disgusting.

>>382101650

That is some dedication. Are you saying we're unknowingly fighting our own bros?

>>382101680
OwO!? What's this?

>>382095547
MHW is MH5, devs said so

>>382101841
>>382101841
then why come it isn't called MH5? Do you think they'll stop with numerical titles?

I guarantee that there will be a MH5

>>382101836
Stop typing already.

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>>382101595
>Misusing OPM gifs for your shilling purposes
Fuck off

>>382101923
Don't worry bro, I am the creator of the original image and I am glad that it's making rounds here and on Twitter.

>>382101785
No chance is the "other side" is arguing in your place to discredit you down the road

>>382101923
ok but how am i shilling?

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>>382094269

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>>382101897
Because in case this fails they can pull the ol' THIS IS THE REAL MH5 NOW to re-generate hype.

You're a fucking child.

>>382100336
I just used it as an example to show how outrageous your claims are. Different people do different things, and different youtube videos have different view/like ratios. This isn't an "evidence" of anything other than some people's autism.

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>>382094269
It's not viewbotted.
It has been heavily 'promoted' and featured on third party sites in the form of what is essentially an advertisement.

This means that the majority of those watching the video are not logged in to the first party site to be able to like or dislike it.

People are just looking at the data and drawing the conclusion that fits their preference without actually thinking about it.
The "plateau" in views is not due to some bot being turned off arbitrarily, it's because that was the end of their promotion period on third party sites.

why should i care

>>382103432
DELETE THIS CAPCOM EMPLOYEE SHILL JEW REEEEE

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>>382094269
you are retarded.

just because they didn't click the like button doesn't mean they are a bot

I barely click like/dislike because I use like button as a way to make a quick music playlist, addint things to fav require at least 2 clicks and I'm super lazy so I use like button instead.

>>382097868
>title with an unanounced release date next fucking year
>title just over 2 months from release
>pre-ordering for any reason

I'm as excited for World as anyone, and I hadn't even considered that Amazon would already have it up for order.
Also, its in top 50 since that was captured.

They're lying to their shareholders probably.

I'm sure they weren't too keen on the idea of a non-handheld Monster Hunter.

>>382103432
Show me those adverts

or will you suddenly fail to provide proof like you did every thread before this one

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>>382103752
>on PC
>not handheld

Excuse me?

>>382104039
That piece of shit is even weaker than the switch, it won't be running MHW in any way shape or form

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>>382094269
I don't like or dislike every video I see, does that mean I'm a robot?

>>382104395
No it means you're 99% of all viewers ever

>mfw @ the amount of damage control of the lack of people taking 2 minutes to look at this image >>382097719

Really demonstrates the current state of /v/

I don't pay attention to the YT home page but it's possible they wanted to get the video on there and for longer.

>>382094575
MH Gen's trailer got like 85k views. The MonHun community in America is very small. I'm a long time fan of MH but it is extremely obvious that they are using view-bots.

>>382104005
You mean just like you failed to provide proof to the claim the views are botted in any way like you did every thread before this one?

>>382104868
There's plenty of images in this thread showing a very clear anomaly in the videos comment/like/view ratios, which you were currently trying to explain

quit backpedaling, nigga

>>382104620
why should i care enough to read some dumb image

>>382104130
Bullshit.
Here it is running DMC4 at 60fps.
Monster Hunter 4 is on the same engine; MT Framework.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_caOKNMk35E

Console MHW is only targeting 30fps.

>>382104960
>comment/like/view ratios
You are mistaken my friend. Those numbers aren't a proof of anything, they're just that - numbers. There's no evidence they're bots, for all we know they're all legit views by real people.

>>382100484
Sometimes I wonder what it's like to be this delusional.

>>382095460
Have you got any proof to back up this claim?

>>382105030
So you can't handwave all the facts

>being so delusional that you dont see why its suspicious

Sonybros everybody.

>>382105129
I haven't said a thing because I don't care. Why should I?

>>382105116
It's true, what good are NUMBERS when arguing about anything. Personally I let my feelings decide whether I'm right or wrong

>>382105183
Then why the fuck did you enter and post in this thread multiple times? You clearly care enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pasuxVPlDo
>1.3m views
>1k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10y8s56AEdQ
>660k views
>1k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlbY_LGPzYw
>590k views
>1.7k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4KN0Xw0Nc
>540k views
>1.8k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthKInJt2m4
>1.2m views
>0.5k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prcQT5om1dA
>1.7m views
>1k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJomdX2ohNg
>1m views
>0.4k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cos936Miyiw
>700k views
>0.6k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmN6uSscNo
>1.4m views
>0.6k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w2OP5zJbX8 ]
>900k views
>0.8k likes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w2OP5zJbX8
>450k views
>1.4k likes

>>382105220
>caring enough to ask you why I should care about a subject is the same as caring about the subject
really makes me think

>>382105210
>Personally I let my feelings decide whether I'm right or wrong
Yes, it's very evident by these threads you keep making.

>>382105237
hol up you be sayin....this isn't a one time thing?

>>382105269
It is actually. If you didn't care, you wouldn't reply to my post which wasn't targeted at anyone in particular.

>>382105321
You're wrong but keep replying to me instead of staying on topic :)

>>382105320
>samefagging your own post

>>382104005
Show me the viewbots.
This whole thread is based on an assumption without proof.
All I see is the impact of advertisement on a video.

Promoted links to the video were plastered all over various popular sites for days, particularly on mobile versions. That may simply be due to desktop adblocker use.
Keep an eye out for them yourself. I ran into them multiple times a day before they appear to have ended their promotion period as I stated.

I should mention this is the only thread I have posted this in, so it's nice to know I wasn't the only one to notice.

>>382105290
You seem pretty adamant in saying dumb shit for dumb shits sake, and who knows whether you're paid for this, just enjoy saying it for kicks, or have genuine brain damage.

So lets leave it at you linking us to those "third party sites" that supposedly have way more pull than youtube

>>382105387
M-MUH CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

>>382105361
ok sweetie, whatever you say :)

>>382105237
>None of these were shown at E3
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gISo65NUTDI
>150k views
>2.2k likes
1% like to view ratio, compared to a 1:800 for MHW, or what is nearly 1 in a thousand. Now fuck off.

>>382105387
>A promotional period of a single day
>On "third party sites" that honestly exist guys please believe me
>that I refuse to link time and time again

>>382105441
thanks for the (you) yum yum

>>382105491
so since you're so angry about capcoms viewbots what are you going to do to epic gamergate them?

>>382104620
>promotion directly on Youtube vs promotion through third parties

Yes, it demonstrates that lack of critical thinking skills on /v/ that you are doing a fine job modeling.

>>382105387
You think other games like mario odyssey dont have links like that?

The user interaction rate is so low that the game is either dead on arrival, they're viewbotting it or both

>>382105460
>mfw shills will ignore this because it BTFOs their narrative
>>382105496
np, only children care about internet achievements

>>382105591
mm thanks daddy

>>382105460
>MH4U E3 trailer
>only 150k views
No wonder Capcom jumped ship

>>382105420
>You seem pretty adamant in saying dumb shit for dumb shits sake, and who knows whether you're paid for this, just enjoy saying it for kicks, or have genuine brain damage.
You talking about yourself there? Because your only argument so far "b-but isn't this suspicious, guys?"
I say shitposting and console wars skyrocketing in MH threads, when a certain hardware manufacturer's platform is the only one not to get the newest entry in the series, is more suspicious.

>>382105460
Thanks for this, I'll add it to the image.

>>382105097
Just because it's the same engine doesn't mean it can run it.
MHW is way more demanding than any handheld can withstand, a fucking atom chip ain't running shit.

>>382105682
Whatever you feel man, if you feel like you're too good to follow up on your own claims there isn't much further reason to keep feeding you (you)s

>>382105776
Not that guy, but Switchdrones have been saying that it can run on Switch because it's MT Frameworks.

why wouldn't a viewbot add a like too?

>>382094269
>>>382105387

>>382105879
It would be even more obvious with a massive amount of likes but no extra comments

>>382105879
Why wouldn't a viewbot add a randomized comment too? Why wouldn't a viewbot make an account and add the video to their favorites list?

>>382105959
Probably because Crapcom can't afford that . They are bleeding money

tsk.... nintenbabies ruinning this thread again

>>382106000
No because it's inefficient, chance is capcom will chug along even if this fails

>>382105569
Of course they do, but Nintendo's marketing budget is much higher and they tend to either advertise on their own, or go directly through Youtube as opposed to external links.

>>382106000
Or the more obvious answer, which is that it isn't viewbotted.
When you have to come up with a new hypothetical to get around the simply solution, you're most likely just wrong.

>>382106324
Okay, how about the interaction rates for something non nintendo or more niche like smt5?

>>382095424
>only 2M more views
hmmm

>>382094269
Sales can't be faked.

>>382106491
What if you refund after buying?

>>382094269
just looked up the trailer, couldnt even find the official trailer on the front page just a fuckload of youtubers reuploading it and commenting on it/reacting to it/speculating. FUcking cancer

reading the first few posts here reminds me how many people don't understand statistics at all

I feel sorry for the OP trying to bring some science into a house of idiots

>>382105872
They're wrong too.
This was specifically designed to take advantage of newer hardware. A portable version simply isn't possible otherwise Capcom would've made one.

>>382106650
Yeah, it didn't go up until some time after E3. For a good time the Sony conference highlights from random users was the only way to watch it.

>>382106661
Pretty much. Especially the third party advertiser argument, as if other games dont have the same thing

>>382106706
Not really. Even if it was possible, doesn't mean that it would be made. Various other factors come into play like timing of hardware release, costs of development, projected sales, exclusivity contract, etc. Remember Vita?

>>382106706
Name one thing about this game that makes it impossible to run on the Switch.

>>382106661
Oh they understand it. They're just shills. Notice how no one brought up a counterpoint to this.>>382105460

1) do you have any actual proof or just speculation

2) who the fuck cares

>>382094269
Imagine being so obsessed with youtube views you make conspiracy theories over the most pointless shit

>>382106949
Funny how you conveniently ignored this >>382096997

>>382106968
Imagine being so btfo you have to reply by going
"B-but tinfoil"

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>>382105460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JoCStLsRq8
>E3 trailer
>275,993 views
>1,121 likes
>0.41 V/L ratio

>>382096629
>GTAV selling that much more in Europe

How is this even possible?

>>382094269
As already said it would be to show share holders / investors to basically say "We have all of this interest so be happy and stay with us, we'll make you lots of money." Don't know why they feel they'd need to do it so I suppose they're under a lot of pressure from shareholders for one thing or another. Shareholders probably just want them to sell a bare bones shallow game which somewhat reflects the product the developers wish to produce in order to ensure a profit of a decent size.

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>>382107328

>>382107328
shipping less games in 2018 but somehow selling more copies?

how can they even "plan" the number of copies sold? Game sales are pretty unpredictable

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>>382100336
There can be fanbases that do similair things unknowingly you stupid mongoloid.

It's the same with cultures and different countries ending up with different case studies.

I swear you are fucking autistic if you couldn't think of this yourself.

>>382107528
Go to school kid

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>monster hunter rarely manages to break 1 million sales from US + EU combined
>suddenly capcom expects us to believe there's over 8 million westerners interested in MHW
>t-they're not viewbotting! you can't prove it!
lmao

>>382107803

> That steady decline since switching to the 3DS.

Kek.

>>382107891
>steady decline
>MH4 sold more than MH3U
>MH4U sold even more than that
Are you retarded?

>>382107803
See >>382107328

>>382108029
Also MH4U is at 4.2 now and Generations is at 4.1 or 4.2

>>382108072
What Capcom hopes to sell and what Capcom will actually sell are two different things.

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>caring about like/dislike ratio
Why
>implying implications
Why

I've probably seen the reveal trailer 10x personally, and sent links to friends who have likely done the same. Same thing happened when the gameplay demo was shown. Also weren't comments disabled for the reveal video for a while? I distinctly remember that. Either way this is a dumb thread that won't have any impact on my enjoyment of the game.

You will never know the cause of such a "disparity." The game is 9+ months out. There are literally millions of fans that have been waiting for an HD Monster Hunter. It's not a stretch to think these longtime fans have watched the video.

It's just not coming to Switch yet, man. Be happy there aren't goldenface threads left and right gloating. All we get are false flags and tinfoil MH threads now. Congrats on that

>>382094269
only normies hit the social interaction buttons instead of just shitposting about it on /v/

>>382108212
>suddenly capcom expects us to believe......
Yes Capcom expects us to believe that the 2017/18 sales plan will happen, which is a very modest plan.

>>382108284
back to neogaf, faggot.

And you better buy 5 copies of the game

>>382095362
You kidding?
sonybros have been bootyblasted about monster hunter for years. Every time a new game was announced for 3DS, they'd talk about how shit it is since it's not on psvita or ps4.

This new monster hunter looks good though, might give me an excuse to dust off my ps4 and plug it back in.

>>382108308
A modest plan assuming that's all the software they plan to sell combined, not just Monster Hunter. Monster Hunter only makes up a small part of that.

>>382108284
>i personally don't use a feature on a social media platform, therefore statistics don't matter
>its just switch tinfoiling, i swear!

>>382108404
>Every time a new game was announced for 3DS, they'd talk about how shit it is since it's not on psvita or ps4.
This has never happened.

>>382108354
>n-neog-gaf
Stop
>r-reddit
I know you tried to hold back this one
>buy 5
No but I'll be share playing one with the gf and rebuying it for PC later

>>382108443
>Shills STILL don't have a counterpoint to the MH4U E3 video V/L ratio

JUST

>>382108506
SEETHING. I love how you just threw in a mention of your "gf" in there for no reason. Shows how insecure you are.

>>382106491

Wii sports is the 3rd best selling game of all time (ALL TIME)

>>382108440
Yes that's what the chart is saying sherlock

Switchfags are quickly becoming the most cancerous community on /v/.

>>382108506
>H-haha did i mention btw that i have a gf? just so you know xD

Reddit is down the hall and to the left

>>382094269

they need the youtube revenue since the game is gonna bomb

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>>382100484
>Japan is treating it as a spin-off.
stop spreading lies.

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>>382108443
Why don't you think for one moment. >MH audience
Every single fan I know of the series is late 20's-early 30's (the young-ins I know only play Pokemon). None of us log into YouTube to like/dislike anything. Hell even on Facebook these same friends didn't give the trailer a like. Old fans are older. I have friends that skipped the 3DS versions and know practically nothing about the series after FU, but they will be hunting on PS4 when it launches. And they all saw the trailer.

Ponder the origin of this "conspiracy." What motivates someone to create controversy over one game's YouTube video popularity? Salt. Massive amounts of crystallized tears wrought through buyers remorse, never evers, and alleged betrayals.
>hook shots out of the thread
L8r

>>382094501
>comparison.
There, you figured it out. One of them is a cinematic universe, the other a niche game which'strailer got most of its views from being at E3, where most people didn't care to vote because they had no idea what they looked at.

>>382108874
>"The MH audience is why theres a low interaction ratio"
>doesn't explain why every other MH trailer has a far higher interaction ratio

really makes u think..

>>382108569
>>382108690
Spptted the virgin Switch owners

>>382108943
Like this >>382105237?

>>382108874
You seriously sound like a nu-male from neogaf or r/monsterhunter.

You're pretty much seeing the trailer as it's own thing instead of comparing it with other E3 games and other MH games shown at E3

>>382094269
dude i never Like/dislike a video.
im pretty sure no one care much for that as much as views count.

>>382109047
Like this >>382107119 and this >>382105237?

>>382109016
Nope, like this >>382105460

>>382109104
What about this >>382107119?

Far more views meaning more accurate.

>>382109016
>590k views
>1.7k likes

higher ratio than MH WORLD
>540k views
>1.8k likes

higher
>660k views
>1k likes
higher

MH4U, the most recent game if im not mistaken, had a significantly higher interaction ratio. its linked earlier ITT

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>>382108490
>This has never happened.
5 minutes on Fireden
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/339158708/

You realize it's just the same 1.5k people liking the videos every time right?

>>382109194
objective truth is now begging i see

nobody wants to play games on the 3dshit because of the shit everything. this is scientifically proven truth.

>>382109135
>Using the iOS port of a 9 year old PSP spin-off title

>>382094427
He compared two videos that are trailer reveals of two games of the same franchise out at the same time. Yet one has ten times less like/view ratio than the other.
Of course the demographics for these two videos should be the same, especially with that sample size.

>>382109305
>E3 trailer of MH4U is a puny 150k views
>somehow he thinks it's a better sample than the other million views videos on the same channel

>>382109135
>MHFU iOS E3 V/L 246:1
>MH4U 3DS E3 V/L 68:1
>MHWorld E3 V/L 774:1
>TOTALLY LEGIT GUYS, 8 MILLION FANS

Wasn't this already discovered to simply be due to the video itself also being an ad that plays in front of other shit?

>>382109564
8 million views yes that's correct. Sales expectation again are here >>382107328

>>382109656
Give me the numbers. Tell me how much World is expected to sell based off that chart.

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>>382109047
I have no clue wtf you're going on about, I'm an oldfag that's been here since '06, and I'm phone posting on the shitter. If you're familiar with "nu-males" and "r/" then you're the problem, not me. I also add spacing for separation of thoughts. Back to /r/eddit right mang?

My gf and I enjoy MH and we're hyped. She was literally watching e3 across from me and squealed "omfg" and when I looked it was MHW. At the same time I got texted by 3 friends, and linked the video to other friends who had similar reactions. Came right onto 4chan which was littered by goldenfaces, so I left until it died down.

I simplify where I can. YouTube likes have no bearing on my enjoyment of the game and it shouldn't for anyone else.

Just enjoy the vidya and lay off the salt

>>382109723
10.5 million minus 4 million from here >>382107372 equals to 6.5 million. That is to be shared among all other Capcom titles for this year, including MHXX Switch and MH Stories localization. Feel free to undermine the potential sales of these two to fit your argument, that's what I'm hoping for.

>>382109194
It's true though and I say that as somebody who has played all of the 3DS games. Putting it on the 3DS was a mistake, it hampered what could've been much better, well-rounded games. I'm glad to see it come back to systems that are more powerful than a toaster with a 3 inch screen.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the final product but I'm glad it's out of Nintendo's hands.

>>382109921
So 6.5 million total for World, MHXXS and MHST localization?
lmao
When did Capcom lower their expectations drastically?

>this thread again
why do you keep posting this you fucking cockroach? you get blown the fuck out and just keep coming back as if it never happened

where are your comparisons to other monster hunter titles? why is your retarded sample limited to e3 titles?

>bring up pre video ads as a reason, because they had a massive marketing campaign doing just that
>NEVER gets answered

when will the mods just fucking ban you for posting reddit shit?

>>382110087
Rec me some PS4 games with SEETHING protagonists.

>>382109564
>handheld ugly trailers vs glorious HD also on PC gameplay trailer

Not only was the HD/PS4 announcement a big deal, but word of mouth still exists, and I saw it pop up on my FB feed.

>>382110053
When you accuse them of viewbotting. Also include any other Capcom titles like the upcoming Megaman Collection 2, SFV (catalog sales), anything that's coming out and will be selling before April 2018

>>382110087
>bring up pre video ads as a reason, because they had a massive marketing campaign

you think other games don't have that? not to mention the fact that their campaign must not be working if it has 10k likes LOL

>>382110175
MH was 1080p on WiiU.

Also, Sony cucked PC by having it delayed. Enjoy 30 fps

>>382106874
the counter point is twofold

limiting your sample to e3 to prove viewbotting is fucking retarded

and MHW right after announcement ran a massive pre ad campaign

>>382094269
Actually some ads counts to view count of vid. Looks like thats the case, since many people claim to have shitload of ads. It's not botted, I already debunked it myself (one of the creators of MH:W viewbot meme).

>>382110326
See >>382110265

>>382110353
>One of the creator
Oh yeah? I am the one who made the compilation and started it. Care to tell me some things that only "one of the creators" would know?

>>382110138
I don't own a playstation and never will, subhuman filth

>>382110265
pre ads give views to the video and don't even allow the opportunity to like, but people wouldn't go out of their way during an ad anyway

you fucking idiots don't even know how youtube works

>>382095152
Not really, it sends a very worried view of Capcom from a PR perspective

>>382110372
>see
>retarded argument
see
>kill yourself
the circlejerk is touching

>>382110460
>pre ads give views but not an opportunity to like

if they're interested in the ad they can click it or look the original content up, you fucking monogloid.

>>382109631
Unfortunately it's not that simple, the entire argument has devolved into two main lines of thought.

>The view count is unusual because of embedding from outside websites
and
>The view count is unusual because Capcom paid for view bots to bump their trailer numbers

Problem is that there's no real way to prove either of these at this point. Since the views on the video have stabilized and both sides can claim that it's because the practice responsible stopped at the time that the views stabilized it's impossible to determine a cause.

TL:DR - Everyone can prove the numbers are unusually high, but no one can prove WHY the numbers are unusually high and both explanations are equally plausible.

>>382110437
If you claim youre the creator of the compilation, then your reddit nickname starts from "Finn", thats enough of proof? :^)

>>382110551
>if they're invested
what does that have to do with whether the views are botted or not?

obviously the majority of people watching ads aren't going to click the content, and even then like it

or are you moving the goalposts to the trailer being uninteresting to people?

>>382110667
Not enough, I posted that on /mhg/. Tell me something else

>>382110646
they're not even unusually high if you don't use a sample limited to e3

but they're delusional cockroaches

90% of those trailer views were from preroll ads, I saw the number climb up by millions every day. The trailer views stagnated during E3 then exploded only to stagnate once more.

Has there ever been a more asshurt fanbase than nintendo's?

>you will never be this obsessed with wanting a company to die (which they won't)

>monster hunter threads went from being good to one of the worst, full of shitposting and console warring
End yourselves.

>>382110825
Blame Switchfags and kappaturds

>get blown the fuck out
>pretend it never happened
>post your asshurt retarded bullshit again because you have autism
>get blown the fuck out
>pretend it never happened
>post your asshurt retarded bullshit again because you have autism
>get blown the fuck out
>pretend it never happened
>post your asshurt retarded bullshit again because you have autism
>get blown the fuck out
>pretend it never happened
>post your asshurt retarded bullshit again because you have autism
>get blown the fuck out
>pretend it never happened
>post your asshurt retarded bullshit again because you have autism

>>382107162
GTA's audeince's age in average is 13 in Europe

>>382110891
>It'll look like more people are on my side if I samefag!! Even though number of posters didn't increase

>>382094269
>>382094269
Nintendo fans are STILL massively asshurt that this game exists after like 3 weeks, will it ever end from them? Lmao

>>382110967
what does that post have to do with increasing the perception of people on my side? How is it samefagging

and I've posted 3 times

do you actually have an argument, or are you just going to scuttle back under the refrigerator?

>>382110776

sony, duh

>>382107891
>steady
>4 Ultimate is the second latest MH on there and is the best selling MH game on 3DS

>>382111092
Except, you know, this living proof of a thread

>>382110776
Sony been anally annihilated since March 3., with no end in sight

>>382109928
>>382109293
Doesn't matter if you agree with it, OP said it never happened. Which you'd have to be delusional to think.

>>382111129
>instead of admitting that Capcom was viewbotting, we'll falseflag and shitpost!!

>>382111129

wow i guess this one thread excuses decades of shittiness from sony dronys

>>382111174
>he's still going
truly amazing. This cockroach is still hissing even when the lights are turned on

>>382111174
>admitting to backseat detective work
If Capcom hired viewbots, than surely the transaction can be traced?

>>382111265
You're still SEETHING lmao. If World truly was a great game and the best selling game, you wouldn't need to participate in this thread right? This is all just a conspiracy theory right? :)

inb5 MUH quality of discussion /v/

>>382111067
NO

>>382111350
>If World truly was a great game and the best selling game
We don't know because it's not out yet you clown

>>382111319
Don't need transactions, we have the proof right in front of us in terms of V'L ratio and the video never trending.

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>>382111205
decades of shittiness from nintendo drones more like.

>>382111163
Doesn't matter what OP said if it's true.

>>382111265
Cockroach is a sony nickname

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>>382111247
>G rank White Fatalis
>Possibly unlocking GR to 999 finally after being stuck at 899 for so long

>>382111412
>don't need transactions
Yes you do, show me the transactions

>>382111429
>posting pc specs without bein asked to

INSECURE
N
S
E
C
U
E

Why are Sonydronies so insecure?

>>382111513
>implying i have anything to do with sony

you nintenbabbies are so fucking retarded

>>382111509
Explain me the V/L ratio and never trending first :) Getting transactions will be MUCH harder

>>382111350
it's fucking irritating seeing monster hunter only for it to be this massive faggotry with no basis, even when speculating

don't replay to me until you answer my earlier points please

>>382111449
how else do you describe this then? Jews?

>>382111571
>Getting transactions will be MUCH harder
But surely you can do it with your expert detective work. Someone with solid proof wouldn't refuse to provide MORE proof, right?

>h-haha if those views aren't legit you should be able to show me the confidential internal transaction history of Capcom!

I don't click like on every video I watch. OP is a raging faggot.

>>382111571
youtube doesn't want companies to be able to ad campaign their way to trending

what do I win?

>>382111674
A good detective won't refuse to provide more proof when asked. Are you a good detective?

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>>382105237
so, that means all of these where botted or what?

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ITS NOT FAIR NINTENBROS
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR GAME

>>382111129
>Anon, we all know that Capcom is one of the most stupid companies in this industry, they just proved it once more, it's not the game's fault and it will most likely be great, but this is an obvious Capcom move

>>382110671
I've maintained since the beginning of this thread that Either a: its viewbotted or B: their marketing campaign was a massive failure

not sure how thats moving goalposts if people aren't interested

Even if it is viewbotted it won't matter, last I remember you've got higher chances of being seen with more likes and dislikes rather than just views.

>>382111932
it's obviously not viewbotted
>marketing campaign was a massive failure
it got you to give free adspace for days on 4chan

and the game is still 8 months out

>>382112071
>adspace for days on 4chan

im not the one who made the thread and i haven't been bumping it either

>the game is still 8 months out

yeah but how long do you think they're gonna pay for ads and not see results? do you have any idea how much marketing costs?

>its obviously not viewbotted

in your opinion.

>>382112223
You don't seriously expect Capcom, or any company to push constant ads for a game from its first reveal all the way until launch, do you?

>>382112223
>and not see results
monster hunter not becoming the number 1 trending game in the world does not constitute not seeing results
>in your opinion
as opposed to being functionally retarded, yea

>>382094269

Why do you give a shit? Is this the power of autism?

Just don't buy it, nigga.

>>382112574
It will be interesting if is true

>>382112771
By "interesting" you mean "endless shitposting with threads saying 'ha ha Capcom thought 8 million people would buy this but the didn't ha ha'"
Because every game ever sold exactly as many copies as their trailers got views. No more, no less, no siree

>>382102681
So you're saying they're not committed fully to this premise? Hmm

I can't wait for this game.

>>382112918
na, I just wanna know, but after reading this thread I guess there is no way to know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>people actually use the trending tab as a barometer when Youtube controls who goes on the trending tab
Pathetic. I guess videos of baby lions from 5 years ago with less than 100k views botted onto the trending tab.

>>382094427
>desperate sonycucs making excuses for the most blatant viewbotting in the history of man

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>>382111503
>all my 3ds MH saves were wiped a few months ago
> mfw Have to start from HR1 again 3 games in addition to FU

On the bright side, it'll tide me over until MHW releases.

>>382105237
Wonder for how many people World is the first time really seeing Monster Hunter in action. At least in the west. While it has been gaining lots of grounds on 3DS there are a lot of people that dismiss the game for being on a handheld. Not just because of the controls but just can't really enjoy a high action game on a handheld and didn't own a Wii/Wii U for 3/3U. More people tend to watch Sony and Microsoft in the west than Nintendo so I can see many people just never really seeing a MH video outside of maybe a let's play.

>>382112363
>the entire argument is how much ads they're running
>you dont really think they would push those ads do you?

>>382112512
having a 1:800 like to view ratio is less than #1 trending. a lot less.

It's called youtube ads you fucks, good lord.

>>382113690
Youtube has ads?

>>382113690
damn.. lots of other games have ads and more than a 1:800 view to like ratio.

>>382094269
This is some Neogaf level of faggotry. Great work OP

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THATS RIGHT BROS.....

CAPCON WILL SUFFER......

ITS NOT FAIR.......

>>382095440
Thanks for helping keep the industry full of grimy business practices. You sure showed those dumb nintentoddlers.

Just how long are you going to keep making these threads for? Weeks? Months? I reckon we're going to see this pathetic excuse for "investigative journalism" for years to come, especially if the game does poorly.

I miss the days when Monster Hunter wasn't another battlefield in this shithole's console war.

It's interesting seeing all the people getting bent out of shape to discredit OP. If it really was a crackpot theory, you would think people would just ignore it.

>>382113627
yea, and still has nothing to do with what they wanted out of the ad campaign

>>382114220
they did ignore it the first 10 fucking times he posted it

>>382113969
>boosted youtube video views
Wow, such a grimy business practice. So much worse than region locked consoles in 21st fucking century, or selling handhelds without chargers, or consoles without proper controllers without any gimmicks, right?

>>382114220
He's been posting it in every single monster hunter thread in /v/ as well as /vg/ for the past week now, and while he's mostly been ignored in those threads, sometimes you just have enough.

>>382113969
>Thanks for helping keep the industry full of grimy business practices
>people like thing
>people dislike thing
>somehow one thing is fabricated
OP is a huge faggot, as pointed out several times in this thread

>>382114220
I was just killing time posting in this thread before it gets deleted. But apparently the new jannies are shit at doing their job, if they let flame war threads, which I must remind you against the board rules, to reach this length.

>>382094269
Honestly, I'm impressed with your dedicated autism OP since I'm not good with numbers

>>382114507
Neither is OP.

>>382114220
It's hard to ignore something that gets posted repeatedly in every single thread about this entire franchise not only on this board but the entirety of 4chan.

Literally can not even make a thread about MH at all right now without this faggot trying to shove his bullshit theory down everyone's throats.

>>382094269
Dude I think those are just japanese views. You should see the views on any Yokai Watch video in japanese. The view numbers are insane, that dance that became a meme in japan, they all went to one video of it and it had tens of millions of views

>>382114758
>Japanese views
Every time

>>382097719
yo that's actually legit fucked up. why is capcom so slimy?

>>382114341
>ITS THE CURRENT YEAR

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Oh man these evil companies.

Who would have known that companies willing to pollute the earth, enslave nations use their power to lobby illegally would be so drastic as to inconvenient users to make a profit?

SHOCKING I SAY.