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People said this game has good writing? Give me a break. You

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People said this game has good writing? Give me a break. You guys just hate Bethesda, don't you?
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>>382005005
>The faggot character speaks like an annoying faggot

I'd say thats good writing
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>>382005049
OP on suicide watch
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>>382005005
obshitian is a fucking meme
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>>382005049
But the post was about Arcade, not you.
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>>382005049
funny, because it's probably the only decent gay character in all videogames when it comes to not flaunting "look im so gay haha, doesnt it make me special?"
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>>382005049
>>382005005
How is ceasar good? Please be objective
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>>382005207
My opinion is objectively right
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>>382005129
This is the part when they went full retard and makes New Vegas a 8/10 at most.
>Caesar, smart military leader
>send someone he just met down a bunker
>with no guards alongside or anyone to check on him
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>People said
Nobody with a worthy opinion at least.
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>>382005180
umm, no sweetie, that's incorrect
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So is the courier basically a superhero in canon?
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>>382005351
All of the protagonists are basically superheros, Courier included.
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>>382005180
>Go to recruit him
>Hey I'm a fag you can recruit me with the fag perk
>Do his quest and go to recruit old woman for Remnants
>Hey I'm a fag I love cocks
Don't pretend New Vegas isn't full of faggots. Coming out of Fallout 3 I thought "why are there so many faggots?"
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>>382005307
The bunker is irradiated
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>>382005506
He never tells you explicitly that he's gay though
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>>382005528
As if C*esar would care if 1 or 100 soldiers died while accompaining you.
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>>382005345
He really wasn't that bad. His gay arc was about him choosing personal pleasure over supporting his noble house and how he genuinely felt bad about it
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>>382005506
If this is such a problem why are you running Confirmed Bachelor?
>inb4 muh damage modifier
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>>382005506
>He's gay
>Acts normal
>You start flirting with him
>He flirts back
Yeah, they really pushed that one in your face there, insecure faggot.
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>>382005345
Him being an annoying little shit was more of an issue than him being gay.
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>>382005649
There's very few characters who introduce themselves, word for word, with "I'm gay I suck cocks". You can recruit him immediately with Confirmed Bachelor, he talks about wanting a man to "sweep him off his feet", and says something to similar effect when you recruit Daisy in Novac.
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>>382005770
Not him but i grab those perks if their is nothing else because muh damage modifier.
Same thing with bloody mess.
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>>382005506
He barely brings up any details about himself until you get to a certain point in his quest, considering being a surviving member of the Enclave. You'd know that if you could get your delusional ass off the cock carousel long enough to play the game.
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>>382005345

Did that crazy bitch on Trumps twitter really set this type of talk off? Her getting banned must of upset alot of people lol
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>>382005882
Also he sounds like a fag when he complains about Fascism with his weak little fag voice
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>>382005506
When you think like a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail.
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>>382005882
There are zero characters that introduce themselves like that. Fuck off /pol/
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>>382005679
The biggest problem with Dorian was he was a terrible foil for the Tevinter people. Their empire was one of the most intriguing things about the DA universe in the first game and Dorian is a pretty big let down from the angle of someone who tells us the ways of his people. As a character in your party he wasn't the worst in the game I would put him about in the middle personality wise, but as someone who wanted to know more about the lore in the series I thought he was just lame.
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>>382005506
come on anon just go to a gay club you'll find plenty of guys that wanna fuck you; once you get it outta your system play NV again without freudian slipping all over the thread
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Yes bethesda is a garbage company. Todd is the biggest hack in the business and the fact that he earns accolades for his "games" annoys me.
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>>382006203
He wasn't an ideal choice but he also wasn't the worst.For two games the Tevinter Imperium had been painted as nothing more than than pure evil anti christ demon worshipping fucks. Talking with Dorian humanized them to some degree and took away from their role as the designated bad guy but it could have been handled better
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>>382006447
>You don't like faggots so you're obviously a faggot
>You don't like paedophiles so you're obviously a paedophile
Just admit New Vegas is a fag-fest.
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>>382005882
Hitting on a gay guy reveals that he is gay. Shocking.
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>>382006557
new gay-ass fanboys will never admit a single flaw in their coveted polished turd, that's why they got laughed out of /fog/ and have to make generals here instead
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>>382006564
You don't need to hit on him retard he makes it abundantly clear he's a fag twice without it.
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>>382006557
hi /pol/

it hurts to step outside the hugbox doesn't it
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>>382005005
This line is from when you have low INT and Arcade treats you like a special child.

Nice try OP.
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>>382006743
After you've gained his trust and traveled with him for some time, right? There isn't a problem here, then.
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>>382006557
>picks the literal faggot perk in an RPG

>makes a faggot advance

>gets mad when a faggot responds positively to his faggot advances

>gets even more mad when he gets called a faggot on fucking /v/

Sure sounds like, if you aren't a homosex yourself, you're definitely trying to compensate for some issues.
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>>382006743

a gay character... says he's gay... twice... in the entire video game.... whoa...
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>>382007117
This is like the guys who compliment the male characters all the time in Mass Effect then get upset when they get the M/M sex scene.
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>>382006557
Why did you pick the fag perk if you hate fags retard?
NO one is forcing you to get it and hell you could do his whole quest on the enclave and not even know he was gay unless you picked the gay perk to recruit him.
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>>382007221
IIRC one of those times he's saying something like he'll always be single and he uses the word "bachelor" which is one drop that he's gay and the other mention is just as passive.
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>>382005005
Did you try to put your real life stats into the game?
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>>382006928
>"I thought my charm could win you over, but I guess it wasn't meant to be."
He says this is you dismiss him
>"Right now, I'm sure you're asking yourself, "Why hasn't some lucky man scooped this bachelor off his feet?"
He automatically assumes you know he's gay, which you won't, but he informs you anyway

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Arcade_Gannon%27s_dialogue
Here, read this yourself and find the instances of him telling you he's a turbofag
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>>382007221
There shouldn't have been any fags in the game to begin with.
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What's wrong with boi coque?
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>>382007315
He forces you into a conversation after you recruit Daisy where he states men are his lovers and they make poor confidants. I appreciate the desperate denial of his insistence on ensuring you know he's gay but its fruitless all the same.
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>>382007596
Why the hell not?
This is fucking Vegas and anything goes in that place.
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>>382007468
>I thought my charm could win you over, but I guess it wasn't meant to be

This really means nothing because it's directed at the player, and 2/3rds of the romancable characters in the game become fags if you choose the "I'm a fag" perk.

So you have ONE line and it's a quick little joke he made about his sex life. W O W.
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>>382007596
why?
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>>382007468
Don't recruit him then, and or kill him on sight.
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>>382007596
>people won't be more open about themselves and their sexuality if something that basically dissolves society happens

Keep dreaming, alt-cuck.
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>>382007468
>He says this is you dismiss him
To both male and female characters.
>He automatically assumes you know he's gay, which you won't, but he informs you anyway
That quote is one of his three responses to the same dialogue choice. Are you sure he doesn't say it if you've recruited him with Confirmed Bachelor?
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>>382005129
kek
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>>382007674
>>382007695
>>382007747
Dumb homoposters gays are mentally ill.
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>>382007596
Back to /pol/, fucker.
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>>382007842
not him but I mostly play female lesbian couriers and he says it too
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>>382006834
You'd definitely have to have low INT to think FNV is good.
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>>382005247
And I think your opinion is false, you utterly massive faggot, I really think you should kill yourself and bring your family with you for making the mistake of giving birth to you.

Also, my opinion is the right one, obviously.
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>>382005129

>you must prep the bull

Obsidian was ahead of the curve on the cuck meme.
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>>382007937
go away homophobe, it's pride month
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As much as I liked NV, the writing was never stellar in the base game. It was just solid, and better than that of comparable games (TES, other 3D fallouts). The questing was well written, the characters and world just decent.

Where NV's writing goes from 6-7/10 to 9/10 is the dlcs. All are masterfully written in terms of characters, quests, and world. Most people just remember the writing as good because the games so old nobody has any excuses to not have the dlc anymore.
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>>382007937
So is /v/, but I still like you guys.
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>>382007937
>actually being bothered by who people sleep with

A true Republican wouldn't tolerate that.

A true Republican would stand by that this is a free motherfucking country where fucking freedom reigns supreme and if the thing you want to stick your dick in can reasonably consent fucking go for it. It was Nixon and Reagan who began this gross trend for the political right.

You're literally just spouting Christian ideals, you aren't even a Christian.
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>>382005307
he tells you the reason in the fucking game.
he doesn't want any of the soldiers to see the tech House has hidden under there otherwise they get ideas and lose their fighting efficiency.
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>>382007695
sauce
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>this thread
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>>382008139
I like New Vegas but it's obvious this story element was more because of tech limitations, it's pretty dumb.
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>>382008121
>A true republican
Who the fuck cares about burger politics? Homos being metally ill is just a fact. Also, nobody cares or respects gay loving republitards.
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>>382008335
Tech limitations preventing him sending a squad of legionnaires down off-screen?
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>>382005005

>Bethesdrones so assblasted about fallout fans critiquing in their F4 thread they need to make a counter thread to salve the pain.
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>>382008139
>sending the Courier in the bunker alone, even if they spent most of the game wiping the mojave's floor with entire legion squads
vs
>sending the Courier in the bunker with a few men that'll make sure everything's going according to plan, then killing those men if caesar really feels like they shouldn't see what's down there
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>>382008418
>metally ill
>the intelligence level of the average homophobe
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>>382008596
>then killing those men if caesar really feels like they shouldn't see what's down there
that'd be mean. caeser wouldn't do that.
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>>382008709
yeah but setting people on fire and throwing them in canyons is a-ok
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>>382008105

>White "People"
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>>382007315
What is this. I want to fuck its mouth.
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>>382008554
Not to mention the fact that you can, at any point in the game, completely disregard Arcade's opinion. Then ignore him and let him leave, put a pound of buckshot in his skull and be done with it, or lead him on then sell him to the Legion. Longdick Johnson might be a shitty line, but you have more options than
>like long dick (continue quest)
>hate long dick (continue quest later)
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>>382008709
He already has homosexuality punishable by death (rightfully), what makes you think that's beyond him?
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>>382008335
The DLC did story far better than the main game, with the same constraints.
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>>382008121
Could be a Muslim
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>>382005649
I love how this is the standard for writing good queer characters on /v/. And by love I mean roll my eyes at every time.

>>382005049 is at least consistent and doesn't make excuses for designated games /v/ is supposed to like.
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>>382008754
(((He))) shouldn't have failed Caeser.
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I cant wait for the politics fad to die off. Shit hasn't been this dumb since everyone was spouting 'U MAD BRO'
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>>382009075
Loyal soldiers doing their duty shouldn't be exposed to seditious ideas then punished for it. Caesar preempted the need for their deaths.
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>>382009327
and caesar shouldn't have failed to kill him because my courier healed his brain tumor with .45 rounds
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>>382009514
Degenerates like you belong on a cross.
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>>382009514
>not using arcade to heal his brain tumor and then selling him into slavery so that several years later he cuts his nuts off
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>>382008418
>homos being mentally ill

I somewhat agree with this.

Homosexuality is a sexual disorder by every definition of sexual disorder until they changed the definition of a sexual disorder so homosexuality wouldn't fit. Shits stupud.

Thankfully we live in a world where we're pretty fucking good population-wise and there are plenty of orphans that would gladly receive love from two moms or dads.

Really, it doesn't matter if they don't impregnate or get pregnant, so who they desire to fuck is NONE of your business or concern.
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>>382009826
what's arcade? I didn't see that kind of ammo on the reloading bench
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>>382009859
>so who they desire to fuck is NONE of your business or concern.
Unless they want to fuck one of the asians kids they like to adopt.
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I thought caeser didn't send his men in because the bunker was irradiated?
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>>382005005
It is good writing if you compare it to Bethesda Fallout writing.
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>>382009946
What's wrong with pedophilia?
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>>382009946
Gays =/= Pedophiles, dummy.
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>there are people who didn't lure Arcade and Veronica into the BoS bunker and execute them and dismember their corpses as soon as they found out they were gay
>there are people who didn't do the same thing to Cass after getting rejected by her
>there are people who didn't blow up the bunker with their heathen godless mutilated bodies still inside

Blowing Cass's brains out was especially satisfying. Maybe you should have fucked me, eh, you goddamn dyke?
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>>382010523
I bet you joined leigon edgelord
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>>382010523
even as a joke this is embarrassing to read
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>this thread

I fucking hate /v/ sometimes
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>start legion campaign
>begin killing everyone cause degeneracy
Am I doing it right?
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>>382010523
>Post apocalyptic wasteland
>Gaint faction of slavers stirring shit
>NCR trying to enslave the world
>House sending out robot armies?
>And me, I'm a fucking cannibal
>BUT HOLD THE FUCK PHONE I BETTER PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD AND KILL THESE TWO GUYS BECAUSE THEY ARE HOMOSEXUALS

Sorry man I just can't make that work in universe

Also I already blew up the BOS bunker for strapping a bomb to my neck
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>>382005005

I don't really care to defend NV writing, but if your point is "unless characters always use poignant, theatrical language and everything they say is vitally important, then the writing is bad", you should perhaps consider diving head first into an oncoming train.
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>>382005207
>How is ceasar good? Please be objective
Muh safe roads
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>>382011090
>>382005207
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>>382011135
>*caesar dies*
wow.....infighting and warlord states leading to instability and total chaos.......
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>>382011262
Read the post. Ceaser's death is part of the plan
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>>382005506
there are around 5 gay characters in new vegas, 3.5%, which is less than in real life.
I think you just have a problem with there being fags in the game at all.
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>tfw they could have used the resources put into the DLC into actually fleshing out the core story like the Legion controlled areas

It sucks because the DLC is by FAR the weakest part of New Vegas. Only Dead Money feels "complete", everything else feels half-assed (Lonesome Road), empty and incomplete (Honest Hearts), or is genuinely, outright bad (OWB).
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>>382011529
>OWB
>outright bad
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>>382011529
>Dead Money feels "complete"
Complete shit, genre schizophrenic and mechanics taken out of their intended use making the gameplay all the worse.
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>>382005651
He doesn't want them to see whatever weapon House has down there because he doesn't want them to start considering that machines can do their work for them. That's one of the reasons why the Great War happened after all.
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>>382011529
>DLC is the weakest part of NV

Nigger what
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>>382011465
i read it, my point still stands

unless he has a groomed heir who will competently carry out his will, lanius clearly isn't, the legion will die and their citizens/territories will suffer horribly as a result due to the power struggle between factions
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>>382011756
>unless he has groomed an heir

Who is the player character
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>>382011529
>OWB and HH
>Bad
t.energyshitter
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>>382011837
>energyshitter
But OWB has the best energy weapons in the game.
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>>382011756
>Ceaser dies
>nation falls into chaos
>Nation repairs itself through nationalism.
>proper senate emerges
>Best ending
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>>382011746
How am I wrong, my man?

Dead Money only feels the most complete because it has a cohesive story. The gameplay is relatively poor, but at least it feels finished. Honest Hearts has a great setting and Joshua is a cool character, but the actual content is laughable, there's no real story, and it isn't fun at all. It's like beta-testing a mod that hasn't had the content added to it yet. Lonesome Road was a mess and we all know it. OWB failed in every way, from writing to story to characters to gameplay to setting. It's laughable when younger kids try to defend it as being "dark", as if some minor undertones somehow make up for the DLC being terrible.
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>>382011827
>any of caesar's longtime supporters even entertaining the idea of allowing some random chucklefuck to inherit leadership
i don't care how much they may say that they follow caesar's will, even unto death, there is no way that they would allow that

even if they did, they would most definitely try to subvert or guide authority as a regent
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>>382005005
Isn't this a response to when Arcade tells you "why the fuck are you helping caeser" and you respond "What? I don't see the problem"

He's speaking in simple terms to imply you are an idiot.
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>>382011837
>He doesn't the rush of a warm laser in your hand.
Besides I've been through HH several times with Energy builds and its fine
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>>382005005
> MC acts like a retard
> Character treats you like a retard

I don't see the problem here.
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>>382008796
>Comparing Americans to white people
Delete this shitpost right now or ill hunt you down and eat your family.
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>>382012326
They're the same people who kill House because he was a meanie to them after they asked him some retarded question.
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>>382011135
So basically Legion is wrong for the right reasons and NCR is right for the wrong reasons.
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>>382012543
Um, sweetie - no.

NCR is the good ending.
House is the bad ending.
Legion is the worst ending.
Yes Man is a joke ending included so that children and immature adults can still complete the game after they kill everyone.
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>>382011967
There needs to be an autonomous class of equals/near equals for a senate to emerge and a sense of unity greater than one man. If not, then it'll just be McWarlords and Burger Kingpins fighting for power.

Who in the legion would stand and say, "no more kings"?
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>>382005506
Your character is a fag now after you picked that perk fuckin degenerate
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>>382012037
Well, it wouldn't be easy of course.
If Wild Carders say that they'll "just" wrangle absolute control out of vegas, the country side and hold off the east and west, then why can't legionfags say they can unite the east under them through diplomacy and force?
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>>382011135
Oh, look, another nigger is posting this so he feels edgy and intellectual.
kys
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>>382012717
>NCR is the good ending.
>House is the bad ending.
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Reminder that if you don't blow up the dam's generators at the end of Yes-Man's route, you're not TRULY opting for independence.
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>>382012717
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>>382009258

>I love how this is the standard for writing good queer characters on /v/

If I walk into a gay bar what do I see? Gays with their asses hanging out grinding on each other and acting like fags.

If I walk into rural 1950's America what do I see?

There's your answer as to why he shouldn't be acting like a massive faglord
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>>382010523
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>>382013521
Elliot had horrible lips
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>>382012717
i, anon, bestow upon you the lauded name of faggot for holding such a shit opinion as well as sweetie posting it
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>>382012264
Raul best companion
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>>382005049
Still better than
>[B] HATE NEWSPAPERS
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>>382011992
>The gameplay is relatively poor
I disagree. Working up from an almost empty inventory from, what should at that point be an inventory full of death incarnate, is a welcome change of pace.

>there's no real story
You sign onto a caravan after responding to a public call for explorers/guards/survivalist types.
Your Caravan is wiped out by tribals and you're left in the middle of Zion, the path behind you no longer navigable.
A friendly tribal, who helps you fight off your attackers, takes you to meet the leader of his tribe.
Blah blah blah, I could go on, there's obviously a story, not to mention the survivalist which, alone, is equal to the best of modded content.

>a mess and we all know it
Speak for yourself.

>OWB failed...
Cool opinion.
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>>382013731
He truly is the best.
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>>382005005
That's if you recruit him via low intelligence dialogue. He thinks you're literally too stupid for him to put it any other way.
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>>382013430
What's wrong with acting like a massive faglord?
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my favorite bit about nv is absolutely the people who picked confirmed bachelor without knowing what it's a euphemism for
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>>382013136

Thread over

Here comes the fedora tipped dick sucking Housefags no doubt going to start doing.
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>>382005129
>you must prep the bull
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>>382005005
Nigga that's one line and it's part of a larger conversation, stop cherrypicking.
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>>382013430
>Gays with their asses hanging out grinding on each other and acting like fags.
Anon, that's what gay bars are for.
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>>382014651

No shit. Thanks for acknowledging my extremely obvious point. Your problem isn't that you're gay, it's that you have an IQ barely above room temperature in the Celsius scale.
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>>382005005
That dialogue can only be obtained by having low intelligence, in which case Arcade will speak plainly to you.

OP is a cherry-picking faggot
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I want to make my own radio but I want it to fit the game. Recommend me some songs, if you wouldn't mind too much.
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>>382015032
How many songs are you thinking?
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If /v/ hates gay people so much why are there 2 to 3 threads a day reminding everyone about it? Its almost always the same conversation. There aren't even that many gay characters in video games. So little in fact 99% have already been discussed in these threads. And when you point it out people say they don't care they just:
>Dont want gay characters to reveal theyre gay
>Dont want gay characters to have any bearing on the plot
>Dont want gay characters in video games.

If you hate something so much why go on about it? I don't get it.

>>382015032
Not a song but get a sci-fi story radio. They really add to the immersion and keep you busy if you're doing a no fast travel run.
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>>382011090
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>>382015204
Enough to fill a radio channel without them getting too repetitive but keeping them identifiable enough to remember all of them when they pop up. Not remembering them by heart, but recognizing them.
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>>382007238

Hmm no, mass effect issue comes from the fact that one gay romance option was tied to the paragon choice, it makes no fucking sense, paragon or renegade choices were always about shepard changing the world, his relationships were always kept separated from that system.

Comes ME3, and you get paragon points if you romance steve, and renegade points if you refuse him, romance should never be a part of the paragon/renegade system, but sadly they had the brilliant idea to mix the two in me3.

A lot of people hated steve because they were farming paragon points for the geth vs quarin choice, and ended with steve lusting for them.
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>>382015473
>Comes ME3, and you get paragon points if you romance steve, and renegade points if you refuse him, romance should never be a part of the paragon/renegade system, but sadly they had the brilliant idea to mix the two in me3.

Did that really happen?

What were they thinking?
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>>382015809
Nah, it didn't. He's talking about the parts before the opportunity to romance him. Saying "I prefer the women" yields no renegade points.
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>veronica is a lesbian
>walks around wearing a power fist
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>>382005005
Protip: The terms 'good writing' and 'bad writing' are used exclusively by 7583129748932174-pound neckbeards who were too stupid to learn a useful discipline and imagine themselves to be masterful writers because they got As in high school English, ignoring the fact that a trained monkey is capable of that.
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>>382017034
I think this is bad writing
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No, I'll destroy it because it's inevitable that it be destroyed. It's Hegelian Dialectics, not personal animosity. How do I put this basically enough? It's a philosophical theory, the kind you might encounter if you took time to read some books.

The fundamental premise is to envision history as a sequence of "dialectical" conflicts. Each dialectic begins with a proposition, a thesis... which inherently contains, or creates, its opposite - an antithesis. Thesis and antithesis. The conflict is inevitable. But the resolution of the conflict yields something new - a synthesis - eliminating the flaws in each, leaving behind common elements and ideas.

Caeser did nothing wrong, Obsidian can throw in some philosophy, fallout 4 throws in hate newspapers and lore retconning
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>>382017152
In context it's actually pretty good writing considering that Arcade only talks this way to the Courier if he believes they are mentally retarded.
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>>382017034
Are you by proxy saying you're one of them?
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>>382005005
>gamers
>especially /v/
>knowing shit about stories and writing
kek, the retards here think NieR is some kind of godly postmodern masterpiece
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>>382017034
You JUST used BOTH those terms. Why should I listen to you?
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>>382005005
I think I'm going to do a gay playthrough, just to spite /v/ :^)
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>>382018348
>I'm gonna suck on dick like lollipops to spite an anonymous Malaysian rock gardening forum
post pics
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>>382008596
Remember that he wasn't really good on his head. He was sold as an uber warlord, but when you actually meets him you see that he wasn't that good neither on his prime anymore.
The guy was suffering from debilitating seizures from a brain tumor, plus he was surrounded by boot lickers for so long that his judgment was somewhat fucked up (that's why he believed that Postman Pat would do his bidding just like that)
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why kind of bar are we setting nv against?
and what constitute as good dialogue
even if you count shit such as long dick johnson its not that far off from normal conversation,which inevitably goes to seinfeld-esque ones eventually
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FO3>FO4>NV
Gameplay wise 4 is the best but the wriiting of 3 Puts it over, NV is the worst in all regards, bad gameplay and bad writings
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>>382021445

Go to bed Todd

Thread's over
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>>382015424
If there is a fallout thread up later, I'll post what I use

At work at the moment
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B-BUT THE FARMS! MUH SHANDIFICATION! DELETE THIS! CHALMERS.JPG
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>>382022179
Thanks anon.
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>>382021445
I will never have my hopes crushed as hard as when i launched fallout 4, you get power armor 10 minutes into the game and a minigun. Fallout 4 was designed for retards who would rather play minecraft than anything even remotely related to fallout.
All games are shit but New Vegas actually has something redeeming.
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