This game isn't very good It's better than Zestiria

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>>381980863
I quit after 19 hours. It just got too tedious and the characters didn't have much appeal to me.
I loved Symphonia and Vespieria.
Abyss and Legendia were okay.
Xillia got boring towards the end but was mostly good..
I never played Zestiria.

Now thanks to the steam sale I can enjoy a good RPG experience with Final Fantasy IX.

>>381981495
OP here
I partiuclarly enjoyed Symphonia, but I don't wanna go back and play outdated old ones. I was hoping the brand new one would be good. But alas, it was underwhelming through and through. Oh well.

I agree

>>381981876
just wait for tales of xenoblade 2 or something

>>381980863
I loved it and honestly thought it was better than Persona5

>>381980863
I played the game mostly on moderate and never felt challenged by the game. Never even upgraded equipment above +1. I thought the gameplay was fine, if a little easy. The cast was great but the plot was bad and the game was too linear.

>>381983972
it's so boring though

You upgrade your shit to level six then whoops the next sword at base level is stronger

Just remove upgrading altogether and put the sword and weapon upgrades inside the chests ffs.

Well I'm glad I bought Nier instead then. Honestly I think the last good Tales was Vesperia.

i liked it

>>381980863
I couldn't get into it either. Same with Zestiria. I can't put my finger on it but it's just not as fun as Vesperia nor is it as fast or amazing for coop like Graces f. I thought the Xillia games were great but that's when they started going into a direction I wasn't a fan of and Zestiria/Berseria both really solidify that.

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Tales of Symphonia got me into RPGs in the first place.

>>381984282
In addendum I don't care for the main heroine for the game. I just can't like her playstyle and moveset for some reason like I could Yuri and Jude.

I know people say Yuri is overlimit + "DESTRUCTION DESTRU- DESTRUC- DESTRUCTION DESTRUCTION DES-" but if you decide not to abuse that kinda stuff he has a lot of interesting artes that he can weave around with, not to mention his left-handed nature and the way he holds the sword both outside and inside battle are so fucking cool to me.

And then you have Jude and his glorious backstep/frontstep. Yeah, it was easy to time and pull off but that only helped make it addicting and still feel rewarding. It becomes even more insane when you can activate it with a frontstep and goes full fucking WITCHTIME when you can activate Rowen's time stop skill by linking with him.

>>381984120
OP here

I only slightly liked Nier a little bit more. It has its flaws but it's at least a better game overall. The music is outstanding as fuck, and I enjoyed the story quite a bit more.I fucking hate the sandbox walking meme though, and the game could use some additional colors besides Gray and shades of other gray.

Zestiria: 3/10
Bersia: 5/10
Nier automata: 6/10

I've seen people praising 360 Vesperia, is the ps3 version fine or it's a gimped experience? In case, how much gimped?

>>381984801
>and the game could use some additional colors besides Gray and shades of other gray.
Nier's art direction is perfect for that kind of atmosphere.

i liked the characters and their interactions but it just wasn't enough for me to put up with the garbage gameplay. i could feel my iq dropping while playing. would love to have velvet in a good game

>>381984801

You can ride moose and boars BTW, they're a lot faster. Color pallete fits the tone of the game, notice how it changes in certain situations.

>>381985061
People bitch about brown and bloom how is this any different?

>>381980863
Fighting is okay except balance is all shit. At some point you just don't want to fight trash mobs that you need to fight a lot of to make sure your stats aren't total shit. So of course you just skip trash mobs and fight by abusing overpowered break souls.

>>381980863
I got bored after 2 hours playing.

Crappy dialogue.
Crappy story, which seems like it's written by a 12 year old.
Boring, bland cities, full of boring bland NPCs.

>>381985998

Because it's not always grey, there's greens and reds, it goes grey during serious events, and when you're in the bunker. This is intentional, not out if laziness.

>>381985998
>people bitching about something should be considered a universal dogma.
Seriously? Blind and generic bitching instead of judging case by case is nothing more buzzwording and parroting meme.
In Nier's case it works perfectly because of that specific atmosphere and story, make a game in which brown and bloom perfectly suit the game and people won't have a valid reason to bitch about it, it's not that hard.

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>>381980863
I fucking loved it, I loved the story, I really liked the combat system and the cast was amazing.

>>381986754
I think OP is being too harsh, but what did you like about the combat? Asking since I recently started it (I'm right after the lizard guy) and probably I'm still missing some nuances.

>>381987089
The fact that you can map artes to all 4 buttons and overall the fluidity of battles

>>381986186
In 2 hours you barely made it to Hellaves and went to look for Dyle. The story doesn't even start till you reach Loegress.

>>381987337

That first major port city was boring enough for me to give up.

>>381987337
This, 2 hours isn't even the first step in jrpg.

>>381987376
You're an idiot but it's ok, you're not wanted in these threads anyway and now you don't have any reason to post in them.

>>381987376
What were you expecting - full plot of 40-60hour long JRPG in 30 minutes?
Are you this retarded?

My first Tales game, despite me having a bunch roms of older games downloaded and owing Zesteria since PC release.
Combat system is something else. Maybe I need to put more thought in it while I'm playing.

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>>381987560
>>381987448

>Yea, the first layer of the cake is made out of dogshit, but fuck, man, the center is really good. What an idiot for abandoning it after the first bite.

>>381980863
Downloaded it, Installed it, and read it was horrible. I never played it, and uninstalled it. Same with Zestiria. Not easily influenced but games like this, I played about 20 of them. I cant do another one this year.

>>381987669
Except the first layer isn't made of dogshit.

>>381987669
OP here

I'm near the end of the game and while it does pick up a little it's not worth slogging through if you aren't enamored with the game early on. I'm not enjoying it that much, even if the high points are a pleasant suprise on occasion.

>>381987746
zestiria is truly trash through and through though.

>>381987669
>not washing your cake first.

youre doing it wrong

>>381987669
>Comparing games to cake

Well, first 10 hours of BOTW are boring plateau tutorial, so does it make the game dogshit?

>>381987669
>food analogy

>>381987225
Personally I dislike that about Berseria's battle system. You don't have as much control of what you're doing and it promotes mashing.

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>>381980863
>been playing it almost 24/7
>get back to hellawes
>suddenly stop playing and can't force myself, even though the combat is fucking fun because i play Eizen and Rokurou exclusively
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>381985061
>nobody replied about ps3 vesperia.
Did you all play it on 360 or something.

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>>381990194
>>381985061
I've only played the PS3 version but from what I've read the PS3 version is superior because:

Much more voice acting. Supposedly they almost double the amount of voiced lines in the game
Two more playable characters
A few new minigames and more sidequests
More artes including mystic artes for all characters
New key item so you can have a much higher level overlimit
More costumes and other fluff
I think they also made a few additions to the main story, but I'm not sure about that.

I might be forgetting some things.

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>>381990517
Right I was confused, my bad I only played Abyss and Berseria and It has been years since I browsed a tales thread, but now I remember it the gimped version was the 360 and it's the only one the west got, while enhanced version was on ps3 and jap only, right? Man, what a strange situation.

>>381990918
That's correct. For now you need a PS3 with custom firmware to play the fan translation of the PS3 version. Perhaps they'll port it eventually or it'll emulate well some day.

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>>381991220
> PS3 with custom firmware to play the fan translation of the PS3 version.
Freaking neat, was already planning to downgrade the firmware, thank you.

>Perhaps they'll port it eventually or it'll emulate well some day.
I hoped to see it on steam, but Berseria isn't selling very well (it was around 80k before the sales started), at this point it's very unlikely.

>>381980863
The more I played this game the more I disliked it. By mid-game my patience was wearing thin, and by end-game I was ready for it to be over. The story starts off interesting but devolves into a typical Tales plot by the end, and the characters turn from interesting antiheroes to the same kind of cliche-spouting moralfags you'd see in any other Tales game. The dungeons are shit; just like Zestiria, they're overly-long and full of recycled enemies and layouts (albeit with slightly different textures). There's also little-to-no incentive to explore or admire their design; once you've seen the first cave, you've seen them all. At least give me a stupid puzzle or two to break up the monotony. The equipment system swung far too much in the other direction from Zestiria; instead of being obtuse and needlessly time-consuming, it's bland, mindless, and unremarkable. The battle lacks any real finesse or skill, and some characters are designed like absolute shit. Laphicet is a slog to play as and Eizen was only fun for me when I was spamming stomps and punches like a fucking retard. Hybrid spellcasters should be fun; don't give them spells or physical attacks if they aren't even competent at these things. Laphicet doesn't even need physical artes and Eizen doesn't need magic. These characters feel poorly designed to me, but I'll admit that I'm a fringe case.

I liked the game enough to finish it, but I feel like the lowered expectations from previous titles have lead people to give Berseria a little more leeway than it deserves.

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How do I get into the Tales series?
Which game should I start with? Are they all connected?

>>381989570
This is coming from some guy who primarily plays fighting games, not JRPGs, so keep that in mind.

The combat is, in fact, fairly nuanced if you pay close attention to the unlocked moves. The move you start the combo with can be pretty important, especially for the ones that pop the opponent off the ground. Certain moves also knock down, and enemies usually stay down long enough for you to regenerate a soul or two and keep going without resorting to break souls or whatever.

Hitboxes/hurtboxes on a lot of moves also tend to get you out of certain situations. That one move that causes that little water splash, and that other move that causes Velvet to rise up in a ball in the air before divekicking back down come to mind. It's important to know (at least on the harder difficulty levels) how to use those.

Velvet's break soul in particular allows for some pretty neat combo extensions if you think about it even a little, since it pops enemies off the floor and cancels into anything, but it's fairly minor compared to what I already listed.

Directly addressing what you said about the face button stuff, I think it's arguably worse for casting but benefits hand-to-hand stuff a lot, since you have a lot more control over what chains into what.

Yeah, I played through most of the game using Velvet. Nobody else is as fun as her to use.

>>381991987
Pick one and start with it. Unless they have a 2 after their name, they're not connected. Berseria is a prequel to Zestiria but you can play Berseria first just fine. I dunno what systems you have, but Berseria would be a fine starting point in my opinion assuming you have a PS4 or PC.

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>>381986754
Same. I've played other Tales games and thought they were meh, but Berseria really clicked with me. Maybe It's because Velvet wasn't your typical protag wanting to save the world like past games. That shit got old with Zesty.

>>381992429
Yeah, her schtick felt a lot more personal. The whole cast felt more relatable than many RPGs out there, I think.

>>381991987
symphonia is the best one

Believe me

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>>381992102
I'm >>381987089, that's the kind of post I wanted to read, thank you. If you remember some other details, I'm very interested in reading them.

>>381993650
Elaborate.

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>>381990918
I'm the only one allowed to post that picture, fuck you.

>>381980863

>it's typical JRPG
>don't buy it
>I don't like it
>walking, fighting, grinding

Well, it's typical JRPG, what do you expect? Btw, looks like you only played Zesti and Berseria... so get lost.

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>>381996882
Sorry anon, both that pic and your waifu are mine now.

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>>381998335
Give her back!

>>381991987
Symphonia's a good starting point. Then you can play Phantasia, Abyss, and Vesperia and ignore every other title because they're shit.

>>381980863
Why does every character look like those two faggots from the Symphonia sequel? Does Japan really like gay?

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>>381998854
> ignore every other title because they're shit.

Wasn't xillia 2 very popular here?

>>381980863
I pirated it, will play to completion just for Velvet and you can't stop me OP

>>381980863
I dropped it as soon as i realized i can have all equipment skills without an upper limit. What the fuck kind of design is that?

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I enjoyed the battle system and the characters so it was a pretty cool ride.

>>381995498
Not him, but Symphonia feels incredibly ambitious as a game compared to most other tales. Asstons of delicious sidecontent, open world with shit to find off the beaten path, minigames, cooking, relationship system, unique dungeons with high variety in puzzles, etc. A truly amazing tales game needs all this stuff, but lately it feels like bamco is starving their tales developers.

>>381999353
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>381999479
Equipment learned skills are just there and can't be interacted with. leading me to believe that they are unlimited and active all the time as soon as they are mastered. Is that wrong, you fucking faggot?

>>381999671
So what, nigger?

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>>381980863
I pirated it because of denuvo, regret nothing, will pirate any future Tales of that comes with denuvo.

>>381999704
I want to micromanage and not be an overpowered fag.

>>381999801
They don't make you overpowered, play on chaos, fag.

>>381999801
The game is pretty balanced around you getting these skills though. You think 8% increase to fire damage makes you a destroyer of worlds?

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>>381992429
she was a horrible one sided protagonist, hated her and forcing the le fememe protagonist, glad I pirated.

she was perfect on the beginning of the game though when she wasn't edgy.

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>>381999240
>not playing it for my boy Eizen

>>381999846
>>381999886
Wellm considering i have every single char learn every single skill. Yes that is fucking overpowered. I don't even need to mash buttons.

>>381999098

but the guys aren't faggots like typical final fantasy gays. even the shota is a bad motherfucker.

>>381999905
>implying she doesn't stop being edgy after she almost breaks

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>>381999905
>forcing

>>381999448
It also happens to halfass the plot and the cast is one of the most one-dimensional ones in the series.
Rest of the stuff has been done better by other games and the relationship system is garbage because it means you can't have meaningful romantic relationships within the game (with girls who aren't Colette because she simply gets the most scenes).

>>381999239
You need to play the first xillai which is kinda crap and then you kill yourself because the incredibly huge amount of recycling shit the game does.

>>381999905
>glad I pirated
Which crew is best for this game?

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I love how /v/ is literally a cycle of garbage contrarians.

>game comes out
>literally loved by everyone
>constant threads about it and good reviews all around
>fast forward
>"I hated <game>"
>"Game was so not good, I hated game first!"
>"Oh my godddddd game is the worst of the series I liked Previously Hated Game so much more!"

I don't think there's ANY game that has gotten popular threads in /v/ that hasn't gone through this phase.

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>>381991845
I actually agree with pretty much everything you said, but I wasn't able to put it into words. I mean, I don't hate Berseria by any means, but like you said the patience was wearing thin. I think I remember hitting a breaking point just before the "town plot twist" I felt like I already had enough and just wanted it to be over.

I also didn't really feel anything for Velvet which seems to be most peoples craze for the game so I guess that was already a downfall going into the game.

>>381991987
Honestly, Symphonia is your best bet. It feels the most "safest" way to ease yourself into the series. You should also play the gamecube version and not the PS2 one.

>>382000156
>half-ass the plot
The plot is one of the best in the series though. You might not like the writing, but the story has a ton of variety and and is a good example of how to write something with multiple antagonists.

>>381999748
Same here senpai

>>381999905
You are a fucking faggot.

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>>382000502
If it makes you feel any better I've been talking shit about Berseria in Tales threads here on /v/ long before we even knew anything about the game.

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>>382000502
This. Every single fucking time.

>>382000580
>You should also play the gamecube version
That's the one on steam.

>there will be no Tales of Vesperia 2

>>382001616

No. Steam version is the PS3 version which is the PS2 version.

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>>382001616
Nope steam version is the PS3 version I believe, which is unfortunately a port of the PS2 version.

>>382001972
You can mod it enough and it's not like the game is challenging in any way barring one fight the ps3 version makes harder.

>>382001972
>which is unfortunately a port of the PS2 version.
Dunno, but here
http://store.steampowered.com/app/372360/Tales_of_Symphonia/
it says
>Based on the PlayStation®3 port of the original GameCube game

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>>382002049
You can mod the graphics and make it 60fps? If so then sure that's fine.

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>>382002159
Yeah, the port is the PS2 version, the one Japan received.

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Currently at the first town.
Game seems weel made so far, even if the combat system seems like a bit of a clusterfuck.

>>381985998
the world is suposed to be dead and desperate.
difference between this and brown and bloom?
it's done on purpose for the atmosphere.
just like how caim's control were fucked up in dod1 but not angelus's

>>381987376
>not liking Velvet not falling prey to the common 'oh no we can't harm this child' when Laphi is ordered to suicide bomb and just kicks him in the face.
Any other Jrpg party would have allowed it and cried afterwards

>>382000502
It's okay, I still fucking love Berseria

>>381981495
You might just be burned out on playing the same game over and over again.

>>381981495
I really don't understand how you can be bored by Berseria and love Vesperia

Vesperia is far more of a fetch quest than Berseria, the story is far slower and far worse and the only viable character to use for like 15 hours is Yuri

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>>382000502
Because it's the cool thing to hate on tales game nowadays.
They may be lazy and mediocre games in many ways but, reviews speak, people love them and I do too.

If only tales games could have bigger budgets.

>>382002804
This

>>382003053
yeah because velvet isn't a fucking powerhouse compared to her party members.
i mean magilou come close as a second great one but it take a bit to get her

>>381980863
the plot wasn't a big deal but the characters were fucking great.

>>382003303
All the characters in Berseria are viable and fun to use even if Velvet is broken as you say.

In Vesperia Yuri and Rita tower everyone else by far, Judith and Patty are fun, Flynn comes and go so much you can only really use him toward the end and he isn't that good.
Repede, Estelle, Raven and Karol are shit as playable character

>>382003509
What's wrong with Repede he seems pretty viable to use in battle.

>>382003601
Repede is a very good AI character, almost broken actually
But he is boring as shit to use

Guys, how do we fix Dawn of the New World?

>>382003725
What's wrong with it?

>>381987225
>>381989570
Gonna disagree with you both. I mean you can theoretically press any of the 4 buttons mid combo to switch things up, but realistically you are going to stick to 1 button per 4 hit combo, which is tailored to whatever enemy you are fighting.

I'm still pretty early in the game so I might be wrong. I hope the introduce more complexity later on.

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>>382002175
You can even put Kratos/Zelos into your party and the dialog for both works properly. Truly Symphonia PS3.

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Story is shit, dungeons are shit, combat is way too easy even on Chaos difficulty (Velvet's R2 is open as fuck), basically standard Tales shit

I honestly have no idea why I keep playing Tales games. None of them are good. I've played 5 Tales games so far and I can't say I enjoyed any of them, yet I keep playing them. I'll probably play the next one.

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>>381980863
The game has its faults, heck a lot of them. Like an old engine, linear dungeon designs etc. The game is 7/10, but I still loved it till the end. I absolutely loved the cast, even a moralfag Eleanor who I thought would be that one character in the party I would hate, turned out to be good.
I wish, the cast's pasts would be given as much work as Velvet was. Magilou's past for one was barely hinted at.

>>382000156
>It also happens to halfass the plot and the cast is one of the most one-dimensional ones in the series.
This post is straight up untrue. Please elaborate on these claims.

>>381993879
No clue if you're still here anon, but here goes.

To add on a little bit to what I said prior, basically every move is capable of hurting enemies while they're downed, but they receive significantly less damage in that state (guesstimating 3/4ths or more). Popping them back off the ground into a standing or airborne state - which one depends on the specific move - nets you normal damage. So it's important to do that whenever possible. The time they stay downed is fairly long (at least coming from your average fighting game), so it's not that difficult - you just have to pay attention

Something else I forgot to mention is the break artes, or at least Velvet's, also have some interesting properties in that the exact one the game activates upon leaving her therion state changes depending upon what type of enemy you're comboing, and you can actually continue the combo afterwards without canceling for a few of them back into her break soul, which saves you from having to use the soul gauge. Laughing Raven for instance is easy since you can just keep the juggle going with proper timing (remember, you can't cancel it unless you use the soul gauge in some manner). Discord is also easy since it knocks down, so you can just run up and pop them back up. I forget if it knocks down 100% of the time or not though. So yeah, knowing what enemy you're comboing and what options you have are important.

>>382002804
Velvet spends most of the game warming up to her party members only to suddenly go off the rails in the final act and then do another role reversal in the final moments of the game.

Other cast members were better written despite less screen time.

>>382006715
except the game is really fucking easy. You can play the entire game by mashing weak-point combos and blocking/evading when the enemy attacks. Velvet R2 is absurdly busted. Your AI companions are also incredibly intelligent for a Tales game, they're absolute gods at quickstepping so you don't need to worry about them dying

I played on Hard, then bumped it up to Intense once you get the glacite. Game is really fucking easy

>>382006187

You play ok games because that's all you have left, Anon.

The older tales games weren't better, you were just younger and the magic of childhood allowed you to feel and enjoy those games far more than the cognitive dorsal lateral prefrontal processing of adulthood could.

The golden age of video games is 12, Anon, so If you're going to keep playing them, you might as well give up on the idea anything can be as rosy or immersive as the games in your memories.

>>382007162
Not even true. I played Eternia a couple of years ago and it's definitely top 3 material.

>>382006971
>Other cast members were better written despite less screen time.
Wrong.

>v doesn't like it
Sweet, now I know it's at least halfway decent. Thanks!

How in the fuck is Berseria better than Zestiria or any other game in the franchise? The game is only loved by waifu fags because the combat is the spammiest it's ever been, the story is only mildly better than Zestiria's.

I know you people aren't playing this for the gameplay because I got bored with that shit about five hours in.

>>382006971
Rokurou, Phi and Magilou all had better arcs that were completed and didn't moments where character acted out of fashion for how they were written.

>>382007403
/v/ doesn't like Zestiria either. Enjoy.

>>381990185
DUDE WHY STOP THERE
IT ONLY GETS BETTER

>>382007531
>I know you people aren't playing this for the gameplay because I got bored with that shit about five hours in.
>Assuming

>>382000502
>I love how /v/
more likethe entirety of 4chan minus maybe /a/

>>382007032
How much did you grind? There were at least a couple insta-kill moves on Hard later in the game. I recall Melchior having at least one uninterruptable tracking arte that killed you from chip damage so you had to sidestep out of it.

I'll give you the AI is godlike at sidestepping though. I prefer them being able to handle themselves to having to babysit and revive them, though.

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>>382008056
>minus maybe /a/
half that place is still in denial about one punch man

>>381990185
Eizen was too good for that game

>>382008058
0 grind

Why is this game so hard?
I started out in Normal and first it was fine but then it got too hard and switched to Easy(i think its called Simple) Then recently again switched to normal but the enemies fuck my shit up and died in a matter of seconds.So i guess ill switch to Easy(Simple) again and finish it but it makes me feel like a noob that i know some people play it on moderate,hard and other hard difficulties,maybe im not doing something right idk..

>>382006187
Velvet is supposed to be the broken scrub character.
If you want to have a bit more challenge play the other ones.

>>381980863
Since you stole it, you have no opinion.

Long input buffer or short?
Also is Soul Break the only way to maintain the combo counter?

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>>382006715
Thanks man!

>>382007032
Nah, not interested in chessing shit, I want to avoid exactly what you described. if you don't want to have fun with the nuances of the combat why play it in the first place.

>>382008056
> minus maybe /a/
Why do you idiots try to force that meme in other boards, /a/ is on par with /v/ from that point of view and even worse from many other ones.

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>>382011696
>/a/ is on par with /v/ from that point of view and even worse

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>>381980863
Anyone got the Berseria MEGA with all the DLC? PLEASE HELP

>>382011696
Not him but /a/'s board content is HEAVILY monitored unlike /v/.
They don't allow purely obvious bait or porn threads show up, newfags are forced to lurk and autistic shitposters like XV-Kim are banned.
Whereas /v/ is equivalent to /b/ at times.

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>>382008719
Is this bait? I can't tell.

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>>382008719
>that slight skin dentation
my fucking DICK

>>382012734
/a/ is literally the third reich if you don't go full weeb, I said something like 'B-but she doesn't exist, it's an anime character' and got a few days ban.

>>382012932
>>382012872
ofc my dick is so erect i'm too retarded to respond to the right person

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>>382013010
And I'm too retarded to click on the right image I wanted to post...

>>382012998
And all is good in the world.
But I'm all seriousness that's why /a/ works, and that's why they're able to keep out normalfags.
Imo the reason why there's been more tension between /v/ and /a/ in recent years is because /v/ allowed more normalfags to exist on the board without adapting to the environment.

>>382013419
>Imo the reason why there's been more tension between /v/ and /a/ in recent years is because /v/ allowed more normalfags to exist on the board without adapting to the environment.
You're right.

But anyway, 4chan overall has gone to shit these past years.

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I've played every single Tales game and this might be the best.

Great cast, great combat, not awful like Zestiria. I think the series is going in a very good direction. It's currently a steal on Steam, I would highly recommend playing it.

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>>382013673

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>>381980863
Have to agree with all of this. Zestiria and this are the only nu Tales games I've played, though.

Maybe it's normal for a Tales game but I've never seen gameplay and level design this horrible. I also played Symphona and I remember it actually had some decent puzzles, meanwhile puzzles in the nu games are literally "go to thing, press button, proceed".

Horrible, horrible games.

>>381984432
You can't even compare Symphonia with the new Tales shit. Completely different things. There is more soul and heart in your picture than the entirety of Berseria with the pop idol and emo boy characters walking through empty open worlds.

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Magilou is my wife!!

If only there was more porn.

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>>382013673
>there exist people like this
>probably not even a 40 year old casual woman the game is catering to

>>382012734
You are trying to goal posting moving, but that's not how it works, we were talking about the behaviour of the users related to the main topics of the board, not about off topic shit that can be "HEAVILY monitored", and that behaviour is as rabid and obnoxious are what you can see on /v/, with very often the same exact patterns an mindsets.
And there you also spouting other incredibly stupid meme, off topic shit that can be ""HEAVILY monitored" has never been the real problem of /v/, off topic 3-4 threads can't be a problem when the legit threads are trash because of the rabid behaviour of the users.
And about /a/, no idea how someone can seriously say that it has no porn or no ecchi is beyond me, the part about newfags isn't what you are trying to sell, it's a rabid anti-newfriend mindset which is strongly related to "everything that triggers me must be shitposted to death even when it's completely harmless" mindset, which should sound familiar.
>>382013419
>But I'm all seriousness that's why /a/ works
Yeah, it's such an autistic paradise that yesterday for example a simple thread about a guy who wanted to talk about chinese animation got 500 posts of loli spam. Or how in the middle of Bahamut:VS people started spamming threads about "omfw nina is a whore", truly quality contents, and those're just the first recent examples that came to mind.
It looks like you are trying to force the concept that only normalfag shitpost, but this petty hate you have against them shouldn't make you blind about what kind of rabid autistic shithole /a/ has always been, or at least don't try to sell that shithole as something that it isn't and has never been on other boards.

I actually tried the demo of this thing recently since I wanted to try out some of the newer JRPGs (basically deciding between this and Neptunia VII, but this has a demo and Neptunia does not).

How is the combat even supposed to work?
Like, no matter the difficulty, I couldn't for the love of me find anything engaging in it to do?
Monsters go down whether you exploit their weaknesses or not and the party altogether tends to stomp everything into the dust.
Basically a hands-off experience (yes, I had manual fighting set) for the most part, just slightly above FF13.
Wasn't this supposed to have fun/engaging combat or its there and the demo does its darnest to somehow hide it?

>>382012648
Anyone?

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>>381980863
Best tales game. The cast is easily my favorite, their skits and interaction/growth are top notch and that's really the most valuable thing from a tales game.

>>381980863
It's easily a 7/10 game for me, a lot of flaws but if you look at it after Zestiria, they're trying to move in the right direction.

>>382015852
Have you watched the DLC and pre order skits? They're amazing.
They're on youtube.