>fantastic art style and voice acting >wasted on roguelike

>>381969002
>fantastic art style

>>381969002
Define "proper game".

Im honestly thinking about getting this eventhough im not a huge fan of turn based combat. seems fun though.. pros/cons??

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>>381969002
>>381969086
>>381969091
This thread is off to a great start, lets bicker pointlessly for the next few hours sounds good

>Is bad at game
>Complains on /v/ that "game is shit"

Also, if you know how to design a "proper game", then do it. Unity, UE4, and Godot are all freely available and fully featured.

>>381969091
>click thing to possibly make numbers happen!

The game is literally a diceroll simulator with a nice coat of paint.

At least if you play craps at a casino there are people to talk to.

>>381969002
>walk backwards
>characters don't turn around, didn't even bothering mirroring the character, you just walk facing front backwards

also boring game, too much talking, too many memes

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>>381969002
>he didn't remind himself

>>381969281
You didn't answer the question. What's a "proper" game?

>>381969235
where do you think you are?

>>381969002
>Let's make a leper a warrior. His arm totally won't fall off when he swings a sword.

I wish the Speed stat didn't affect who gets to attack when.
My (entire) team, the (entire) Enemy Team, repeat.
I hate turn based games enough as it is.

>>381969282
>/v/
too much minecraft ruined your attention span

>>381969567
That's actually based on real knights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Lazarus

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>>381969282
>walk backwards
>you just walk backwards

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>>381969002
>roguelike

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>>381969002
Fixing this game is easy as hell. Game starts from heroic level dungeons, and you're heroes are adequately adjusted. No grind, unless uou want better trinkets.

>>381969086
Yeah, it's really not that interesting or unique. I dislike it.

It's designed to be RNG brutality difficult you idiot pussy crybaby maybe this isn't the game for you but don't bitch about improper design you are not the developer cunto

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>>381969260
It's far easier and more fun to complain though :^)

>>381970339
>rng
>difficulty
Woah guys we've got a retard right there!

>>381969260
>where's YOUR video game, guy who doesn't like thing I like

damn, you must be the raddest kid in the schoolyard


>>381970339


the game's not hard once you figure out what comps are good
but they you'll still have 40+ hours of the same shit over and over and over

>female characters in masculine roles

>>381970589
NOT THIS FAG AGAIN HOLY SHIT

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I just finished a 68 hour playthrough of DD+CC DLC. The game is frustrating as fuck especially regarding the Crimson Curse mobs that spawn fucking everywhere. You are basically forced to brute force your way through the courtyard in order to de-vampire your people.

I would recommend it to anyone who played XCOM EW Long War and wanted more. For everyone else, play XCOM unmodded.

>>381970013
and the Leper is inspired by this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_IV_of_Jerusalem

and I think one of the Leper's default names is Baldwin.

>>381970678
defend arbalest and hellion right now without resorting to
>it's just fantasy bro

>>381970874
Hellion does less damage than other DPS characters?

>>381970874
But it's just fantasy polyp

>>381969197
Pros: cool art style and vibe. Not that bad of a turn-based rpg. Definitely worth if it's on sale.
Cons: RNG out the ass. Stops getting fun after you beat the first area.

>>381970937
Umm no, she's actually one of the strongest chars in that matter

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>>381971009
This is bait. Having stats like accuracy doesn't mean the game relies on RNG. I'm sick of this shit.

>>381969197
It's the most realistic dungeon crawling game in existence. You have to manage stress and hp, and each character has a myriad of different factors changing what they are. There's a mode they recently added for first timers that makes the game less time consuming. I'd recommend you at least try it just because of that. Even the turn based aspect of it has a cool spin on it with speeds and surprise mechanics.

>>381969282

Did you notice that you also walk slower, and your stress goes up faster if you do it?

Because there is a mechanical reason that you don't turn around. You're backing away from whatever the fuck is in front of you, instead of just nonchalantly turning your back on a dark fucking hallway full of murder skeletons and worse

>>381970183
just play radiant mode

>>381971009
No, the fun stop right after entering Darkest Dungeon. Shit's terrible, and that idea that no hero can return there, or sacrificing high level character if you want to retreat. Like, what were they thinking? Why do they want players to grind so fucking much?

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>>381971312
>It's the most realistic dungeon crawling game in existence.

>>381971376
You still need to kill every boss 3 times.

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>>381971487
Prove me wrong, faggot. It's realistic, you have to deal with stressors. Would you go fighting skeletons and shoggoths day in day out irl and not be afflicted in some way?

>>381971856
Sure, why not?

>>381971936
uhhh didn't you know that fighting is really scary? If I got in a fight I wouldnt be able to hold my bladder, it's THAT scary. That's why it's realistic and good, like my funny pacifist skeleton lgbtqi game

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Who are some good members to pair with an HM and Arb? BH and Occ seemed good for mark synergy (and healing for Occ) but that doesn't exactly leave me with much of a frontline

>>381972179
>lgbtqi
LGBTQT you mean

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>>381972292
Leper.

Always bring Leper.

>>381971082
In terms of actual damage numbers, no she's fucking not. (She's definitely one of the best overall characters). Leper, Bounty Hunter & Highwayman all out damage her.

>>381972473
Nice leper on your pic nigger

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>>381972527
>Highwayman
Really?

>>381972473

You got that pic of the Shambler on the prequel mission by chance?

>>381972473
Honestly was never too big of a fan of Leper since his low accuracy and inability to hit row 3 or 4 made him feel too limited and downright useless on certain bosses. He can take a hit and is pretty strong when he can actually hit things from what I remember so I should give him another shot I guess

>>381972893
what? leper is an amazing boss buster because intimidate hits all rows, marks himself and reduces like -25% prot per use.
granted, he can't hit anyone not on the frontline but he makes the backline hitter's job way easier while deflecting attacks.

>>381972893

The leper only works if you build him from the ground up, only allow quirks and that raise ACC, and you must bring at least one plague doctor for damage boost and a man at arms for acc boost, but the pay off with the leper raping bosses with his crits is worth it.

>>381973050
It does all that? I thought the self-mark was on a different ability? That said I haven't really experimented too much with the Leper but yeah I should really give him another go.

>>381973420
That sounds really expensive but if its anywhere close to that good I guess hes worth it?

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>>381972875
4U

>>381973930
later on the leper hits for 53
and that's not even a critical

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>>381973930
Leper is an investment, but good fucking christ he hits like a train. Earlier I went to the first necro boss on a fresh run with a team built around buffing the leper and I 3 shot him. They were all lvl 1 and 0. Mid to late game you can fucking demolish bosses with him.

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>>381974121
WHAT THE FUUUUUUCK

>>381969002
Shit's fun OP

>>381974742
If you love being raped, sure it is.

>>381971312
I bought the game during the sale and started on this lowest difficulty. Usually I play at least on normal but they specifically said "strongly recommend for first im Darkest Dungeon players". What exactly has changed from the standard difficulty? I feel like the building materials are very hard to come by still and are the current bottleneck if my campaign (if they're increased I wouldn't wanna imagine their normal rates)

>>381972292
Hellion.

>>381973050
>eper is an amazing boss buster because intimidate hits all rows
It hits rank 1 and 2.

God forbid the Leper ever gets shuffled though.

the artstyle is western cartoon garbage

I don't get why people say Hellion's "If it bleeds" is overpowered.

Please explain it to me. It feels weaker than Iron Swan

>>381972292
More houndmasters.

>>381974373
Yeah, he has a 1% chance to spawn, but the game needs to be on 0 light, so you need to intentionally go hunting for him.

>>381970708
>Play XCOM2 LW
>Oh boy everything is going fine nothing nasty so far
>Rescue mission? That's fine let's do it
>Go around a corner
>Discover what an ultra sectoid commander pod looks like

Jesus christ, who the fuck makes this shit

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>>381976708
It's basically Mike Mignola's style but with a bit more color which I'm okay with.

>>381971312
This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard

>>381969281
Sounds like every tabletop game ever
You still haven't explained how it's not a game

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The game is easy and a boring grind. The stress mechanic is really out of place. It's fun for a few hours a day but then I have to take breaks.

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>>381978175
>Stress mechanic is really out of place
>A game about confronting eldritch horrors and the effect they have on our intrepid heroes

>>381969002
>can't lose the game
>roguelike

>>381970874
>Arbalest
If there's one old timey weapon you could expect a woman to get gud with it's a crossbow. And she's about 40% support focused too. She shoots a crossbow and other than that all she does is support. Nothing unreasonable there.
>Hellion
Easier to make characters visually distinct if you mix up the genders. She doesn't look that strong but she doesn't actually seem to have that much raw physical power. Her niche is being the unconventional frontline-melee fighter. Crusader and Leper just tank hits to the face and fuck up whoever stands in front of them while Hellion stuns, inflicts bleed and swings around her big halberd in weird ways to hit the back row from the front and other such autism.

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I just bought this game recently and it has giving me that pent-up feeling of frustration that the Souls series used to give (until I got gud). I love it while I the same time, I hate it. It's made me call bullshit numerous times. I can't imagine how hard late game is.

>>381978310
stress in this game is like repairing your equip in diablo, it is completely pointless waste of time mechanic

>>381978319
What happens if all your heroes die and theres only crap in the coach? Wouldn't that leave you in a spiral of failure effectively being a soft game over?

>>381970874
>Hellion
Is a reference to Red Sonja, and she comes from a place far away from the Hamlet, where the rules are likely different for her tribe
>Arbalest
A kid who had to flee from her parent's house with a crossbow after an angry mob torched the place with her father still inside. She needed to learn to survive, and a crossbow is a weapon anyone could fire with a bit of practice. Half of her kit is marking targets or healing them, as well. The other half is making a long range shot from safety.

>>381978615
nigga you in the wrong thread?

cuse thats not how stress works at all

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>>381978505
>he had to git gud before he could beat normie trash simulator

>>381978664
if you were playing with a time limit yea, so hard mode

other than that you can start over as many times as you want with the same hamlet

>>381978664
New heroes are free and arrive every week. You can always just retry easy missions, probably?

>>381978671
>red sonja
mad
read Howard before you talk about convention pls

>>381978795
>>381978804
Oh I didn't realize this, I literally just started playing 15 minutes ago

someone who actually activley plays the game here? i might wanna buy it but asking /v/ about it seems risky because this is the same place that deemed gungeon as too hard

please is it worth it?

>>381970874
It's literally a fantasy game where you have a fucking plated Crusader swordfighting alongside a pistol-using Highwayman, and a Jester with a guitar buffs them with sick rock anthems. BUT OH NO IT'S A STRONK WOMAN MY DAY IS RUINED

>>381978726
>implying you swept through DS on your first playthrougth

I wish I was as epic as you, pal.

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>>381978706

>>381978615
It's second health bar meets risk-reward mechanic meets upkeep. Dark 'n dump is a legit profitable strategy that's only compelling because of stress. Inversely, so is building for virtue.

While the Crimson Court is an appreciated increase in difficulty, did the rate of infection for Crimson Curse have to be so high? Every time a bunch of those mosquito cunts show up in a normal quest when I have an uncursed party my asshole clenches tight enough to make shit into diamond.

I presume they stop showing up for a while if I go facefuck the Baron, but that's a normal difficulty quest and I've only got two level 3s. I'm pretty wary of the Courtyard after the face-fucking that was the Crocodilian.

>>381978905
For $10 it is definitely worth it. For serious challenger's only though, brah.

>>381978832
Oh, are you mad I didn't call her Red Sonya?

>>381978905
Easily worth $10, probably not more than $20.

>>381978905
Buy it, find out and refund if it's not to your liking? Fucking generation z who can't decide ANYthing on their own baka

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hows the new dlc?

>>381979004
There's a mod in the workshop that halves the curse rate, I think. I might actually install it because it feels insanely high for no real reason. Small enemies shouldn't be so incredibly infuriating to fight

>>381972292

Try a hel, vest, hm, arb. I cleared most of the game with that team on the hardest settings.

>>381978905
is gungeon any good? nuclear throne is kinda meh so far

>>381979116
A dizzying blow to body and brain.

Fun but don't get it if you have a hard time with the base game. The first DLC boss is easily the most difficult boss you can fight at level 0-2.

>>381979027
she is a comic book Mary sue whom Howard would have hated for her ridiculous character, you might as well reference superwoman
actually READ you stupid faggot

quick, how do I build flagellant and in what comp

What are some pro tips in this game? Feels like most (99%) of my cash gets spend on removing shitty traits, reducing stress and buying supplies, the next upgrades cost a gajilion building materials, how am I supposed to afford all of this? I've been thinking about just sending in a 4x lvl0 party in to die if my main crew has to take a week off, because if I continue as is and actually play these newcomers, they end up being high stressed and trait'ed just like my main crew resulting in a never ending spiral of upkeep that I cannot escape

>>381979163
i 100%ed it and had my moneys worth but some stuff can get a little repetetive and tiring i just like it for the mashup of bullet hell and twin stick shooter

most people say it has bullet spongey enemies but i think thats bullshit if you can shoot fast and hit enemies you can kill most of them in 4 shots people are just so accostumed to isaac and being able to kill all bosses and enemies in mini seconds that actually needing to a kill a boss and not just cheating him with an item makes him bullet spongey

id say its worth it yes

>>381979287
Harder than Wolffucker?

>>381979291
>He would have hated her
Have a source on that? Because Conan himself is just as guilty of anything else that Red Sonja does.
Don't put words into author's mouths you stupid faggot.

>>381979338
Flagellant is OP as long as there's stuff to bleed.

Don't send him anywhere where he can't just mass bleed shit.

Make sure he's got Redeem because that's easily the most overpowered skill in the game; he just eats punishment then pretends it didn't happen while also giving massive heals.

RPG archetype-wise he's like some bizarre Dark-Knight Paladin.

>>381976708
Still better than asian cartoon garbage.

>>381979004
Oh SHIT, are you saying those fucking mosquitoes can appear in non crimson court dungeons as well? Fml, what triggers this? I've peeked into crimson court with a noobish party, got cursed and Aten alive by the crocodilian. I said fuck this shit and didn't plan on going back there until way later. Have I opened pandoras box by going in? Will mosquitoes now spawn for me because of my curiosity?

>>381969002

bought the game and then refunded 3 hours later because the fight mechanics are awful and some of the important points of the game are never explained. I had a party at the start that had high stress, so I recruited new memboers from the caravan and put the stressed members in proper stress relieving buildings. 3 weeks later none of them reduced their stress by any amount and all 4 new members died of heart attacks because there was no way to swap them.

Really unfortunate considering the game had great voice and atmosphere.

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Am I being misled here? In what world does Darkest Dungeon have a good art style? It's an extremely generic Dark Horse-esque dark fantasy comic style that we've seen be rehashed for over a decade now.

>>381979526
Don't be so dense, fool. You didn't even know that she was an invention of the comic industry, I doubt you are even capable of understanding Howard. Speak of things you are more familiar with, such as marvel movies and music videos

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>>381976708
>>381979621
I LIKE BOTH YOU MASSIVE FAGGOTS

>>381979737
>Mignola's style
>generic
uhhh

>>381979428
Coach recruits are free. Hire dumb shits, work them for cash with no gear, then dump them. No trait adjusting, no stress concern.

Think similarly for your mainline people, dumping them if they get too odd. If you really want to save someone, figure out which curios will remove bad traits, and go hunting for those.

You're a ruthless capitalist manager, and you don't want employees who cost more than they produce.

>>381979674
No, you have to beat the initial level in Crimson Court to trigger the plague of Jews.

Having gone in headfirst and gotten it out of the way early, I would definitely recommend to people starting out with the DLC to wait til you have a part of level 3 adventurers, so you can at least have at the level directly after.

>>381979737
>rehashed
Where?

>>381979737
what timeline is this?

>>381979727
ok

>>381979813
it's a faux Mignola style that has been bastardized since he became famous. It's generic now.

>>381979856
Back up a few words from there and you'll see where.

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>nice easy dungeon and loot
>it would be a shame if something happened to it

>>381980037
Not in video games you little shit

>>381979727
Are you retarded?

You don't just put them in the buildings, you have to activate the buildings by paying money.

It's like you've never played a video game in your life-oh wait this is /v/.

>>381980037
I don't really read comics (I did read Hellboy because I liked it), and for a video game it's a pretty fresh look. It's a fitting look for a horror game, too.

>>381980042
BLEED
BLEED
BLEED
Dead on arrival

>>38197s9116
>they added a "grind for keys to go to the special dungeon" mechanic

as if the game wasn't already a glorified mobile game

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>>381979737

>>381969002
I like Bloodborne reference.

>>381969260
It's impossible to be good at something that just decides whether you get fucked or not.

>>381971327
Except most of the time there's nothing in front of you

>>381980093
You're the hack artist who worked on Darkest Dungeons?
>Not in video games you little shit
Not an argument; doesn't make it less generic. Go to art school and learn how to draw lines.

>>381969282
>too much talking
>literally the only exposition is whatever the narrator feels like saying

>>381980361
literally the only way you can party wipe before DD is by being an idiot. You have no excuse.

>>381979163
Compared to Nuclear Throne and Isaac its pretty underwhelming.

>>381969235
>2 hours ago
Fuck.

>>381980487
I'm not talking about party wipes, I'm talking about total bullshit, like how all of a sudden your valiant knight can become a kleptomaniac, attempt to loot a chest all by himself, and take a huge hit of damage from the trap inside.

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>>381980450
Guys, he's a art-school dropout!

>>381980361
This isn't roulette or pachinko where you can't do anything but wait for the ball to land in the "you're fucked" spot. The game is stuffed with ways to mitigate risk.

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Are there any good roguelikes on sale on steam now? No roguelite bullshit like this game please.

>>381980596
Holy shit, you're fucking retarded.

>>381980596
>going on a mission with a klepto hero
>dying to a trapped chest
>even caring a klepto hero (garbage) dies
boi...

>>381980720
Go ask /vg/

>>381980596
>took a klepto on a mission
What exactly did you expect? Get it cured, numbnuts.

>huge hit of damage from a chest
Why don't you have ways to cure blight and bleed? Because I know that's what you actually mean by "damage."

>>381980728
>>381980763
>>381980823
I've never played the game you fucking retards

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>>381980596
my favorite is when I have a feast and then two steps later my party is hungry again

>>381969002
Ugh I know it's just so rng and grindy and frickin random.

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>>381980889
>merely pretending

Sure buddy

>>381980689


It isn't

I mean once you learn what party compositions it's a breeze but you can still get fucked by the double crit wombo combo and fail the death's door roll to bleed


and there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent your dudes from getting the really shit quirks besides paying the dosh to remove them

>>381980970
Why
Are
You
Writing
Like
This?

>>381981054
I'm not.

>>381981054

lenotanargumentman.tga

>>381981079
Disregard that I suck ur mums cock :^)

>>381969086
Yeah no big-titted waifus or weeb style. Shit, I say. SHIT!

>>381980970
Is removing quirks really that restrictive? The game drowns you in gold, and there's random events that remove bad quirks in exchange for shitty herbs or jesus juice. Really what's less reliable is getting the good quirks you want.

As for the crit wombo combo, honestly, I don't know if I'm lucky or what but it has legitimately never happened to me. The only way I can see it happening is if you gallivanted into a room battle with half HP or some other situation that you really shouldn't be trying to get yourself in to. Unless you're on Stygian there's no time limit so there's never shame in retreating.

>>381980443
>Except most of the time there's nothing in front of you

"most of the time" is less than "the entire time", which is how long there is nothing behind you.

You fucking retard.

>>381981463
>big-titted waifus
You know nothing Jon Snow

>>381981557
But enemies don't come into rooms after you cleared it out

>>381979740
where is the source tho

Stop shitposting.

What I like about this game is that it's pretty light on hardware specs, so I can play it at work during downtime. Also it's turn based, so I can quickly alt tab should something come up without fucking my game over because I couldn't pause in time.

Any other games you could enjoy at work? Maybe similiar in gameplay style to this? (have a base, continue growing it and strenghtening in by "doing gameplay" however that may look like)

>>381979740
Cringe: the post

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>>381981827
Can I memepost though senpai?

what do I do with journal pages? read them in dungeon for lore? do I need to bring them back to the hamlet?

>>381982083
Into the trash it goes :^)

>healer priests/paladins can only heal 2 dmg

for what purpose? where is my max life heal?

I am always fucking poor help me

>>381982539
suicide a group of people with no supplies into a dungeon and retreat before they all die with the loot

>>381982495
>priests
???

Crusaders aren't a heal class. The only utility of 1-2 heals is keeping people off death's door.

>>381982083
Do what you want. They'll never stop appearing, so you can read them and drop them until you want to take them back.

Which will be never because the inventory's cramped enough as it is, especially if you have the DLC and are hoarding blood and invitations to the courtyard.

>>381982687
Not very nice thing to do desu

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>>381969002
Erik go to sleep.

I've played the DLC exactly 5 minutes and I can say without a doubt: the flagellant with his Redeem skill is OW PEE as fuck

thank you, that is all

>>381982687
so either I bore myself to tears or stay poor forever? cool

>>381969002
>Doesn't understand that this is the perfect game play for the themes of the game
It's ok to not understand but try not to claim ignorance as the correct state of being.

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>>381979784
>likes things
>calls other people faggots

>>381982890
How the fuck are you so poor

If you're trying to cure worthless level 0-2 adventurers of their shitty quirks, or if a level 0 or 1 has max stress, just don't. Tell them not to let the door hit their ass on the way out and recruit somebody better.

>>381982890
or you could be good at the game and make it through a dungeon without getting wiped

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>>381982946
Hate's overrated

>>381978726
sure why not

how the fuck do I get more heirlooms? progress is so fucking slow and I'm already playing on easiest difficulty

>>381983741
Upgrade that gypsy-shop early, it's useful as fuck

> People complaining about party deaths and bad things happening even though the game specifically warns you that RNG is going to heavily fuck you up at some times.
I've had two full party wipes recently in the Crimson Court and a Long Champion Ruins run, you can recover from your losses but its going to take work. But thankfully Shrieker was a nice addition because it allows you to get back your very rare trinkets back easily.
>>381982890
Get a fucking antiquarian and run through a short mission, i've earnt around 10k per short run because i literally just shoved an antiquarian in a party

>new class can give itself +40 stress during camping

for what fucking purpose?

>>381979428
get antiquarian and grind
never leave without a vestal
best party for starters would be vestal/pleaguedoc/crusader/leper
best party for most bosses is arbalest/vestal/houndmaster/bounty hunter
dont go into the dlc dungeon under lvl 3
upgrade weapons +2 then armor +5 then weapons +5
dont try to run no light dungeons
allways have enough food with you
scouting chance is one of the most undervalued stats
stress management and planning are important
remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

>>381984715
what do they bring to the table? noob here, I used them once and disregarded them as a joke class. I only used them for their party wide buff and ability to create a trinket during camping, anything i'm missing here?

>>381985250
he gets stronger when over 100 stress also gets stronger on deaths door

>>381980037
Why don't you actually name the apparently multiple places where it's rehashed you fucking faggot.

>>381985353
allows you to carry 750 more gold per stack and every time she interacts with a curio she gets either something worth 500 or 1250 gold

>>381985602
damn, this is mighty handy to know, cheers. Did I miss this or isn't this really explained ingame?