How does Nintendo keep making the most beautiful games on the

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>>381961758
What Jap magic is this?

>>381961758

That looks like shit

>>381961986
xD

>>381961986
LOL!

>>381961758
Strong non-realistic art direction

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>>381962051
*laughs at you, point finger and wags tail*
Oh man, this poor Nintendo shill.
*posts webm of Horizon Zero Dawn*
This is true greateness.

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Literally on the same hardware level that got Fallout 3 and Skyrim.

>>381961758
Art direction has nothing to do with hardware

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>>381962191
Zero (0) loading times.

>>381961758
Damn, Odyssey looks like it's going to be pretty good.

>>381961758
You are talking about the most iconic company in the world of games

>>381961758
Is this some sort of ironic falseflag?

>>381961758
It's funny how Nintendo does perfect gameplay and level design with Mario games and as a side thing also does perfect framerate and technically innovative shit all the time you basically don't see in any other platformer.

>that snow or sand in the webm

They really take the big 3D Mario games seriously as their mascot games.

>>381962191
how the hell are you playing as elma tho?

>>381962170
Man, drones aren't even trying anymore.

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>>381962118
We did it reddit!

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>>381961758
wahoo!

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>>381962580
Wow, it's almost like I'm back in 2009!

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>>381962703
Then you will feel like back in 2001 when palying PS4 games where grass doesn't even have any collision detection.

>>381962703
Looks more like 2005 desu.

>900p
>30fps

>>381961758
It's not the most beautiful game, although it does look good considering the hardware it's running on. It's more about a pleasant design aesthetic.

The waterfall going through the triceratops skeleton is fucking radical, though.

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>>381962696
>dat Zora's Domain
>those mountains in the background
>that sense of scale

How are they doing it?

>>381962796
People automatically have higher standards when it comes to Nintendo.

>>381962796
woooooooooow
very impressive
nintendo is truly the best company on the planet and we all must purchase Nintendo Switches!

>>381962992
Yeah, can you imagine that some people were unsatisfied with 3DS 240p resolution? Fucking nintendo haters.

>>381962796
>the game is a shitty rehash of a rehashed rehash, but check out this grass though guys woah like it moves and shit holy shit you guys!
Drones impressed by ages old technology. It's just so sad to watch them squirm at this point, it used to be pretty funny, now it's just really really sad.

>>381961986
This. Don't get me wrong the game looks nice, but the visuals are far from impressive. Looks like something you'd see on the Wii.


Hell even Super Mario 3D world looked better.

>>381963238
Is there a name for this already tired fallacy of implying that BoTW is bad because other games have similar features?

>>381963675
Yea, it's called ''it's LITERALLY okay when nintendo does it''.

>>381963675
Where did he implied that breath of the shill is bad because of moving grass, you triggered nintendildo?

>>381963773
That would be the opposite, dumbass.

>>381963810
In his post? Can you not read?

>>381963826
Sure drone, enjoy your mario #83293, can't wait for mario #83294 next year, that one's gonna be so fresh and new.

Looks about the same as the wii u mario games. Then again we don't have any high quality footage yet, just youtube and twitch rips. Wouldn't be surprised though because it's pretty close to the wii u in terms of hardware.

As for why they can make games look passable on garbage hardware, it's because they're making games exclusively for their platform, so they can squeeze every drop of power out of the system.
>60fps
is that confirmed for odyssey? Weren't the galaxy games and 3d world 30?

>>381961758
But that doesn't look any better from Super Mario Sunshine.

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>>381963994
What year is it?

>>381964064
when was the last time you actually played sunshine?

>>381964237
Under a year. It was pretty impressing really

And with no quicktime events 24/7 as well to compensate the failure of gameplay

>>381962120
this. style is more important than polygon count.

>>381964552
what style?

>>381961758
Their artists actually know what appeals to vidya fans

>>381964735
Disney toddler shit?

>>381964735
>Their artists actually know what appeals to balding manchildren
ftfy

>>381962796
>Horizen's foliage is higher density, more diverse and has actual texures
>Zelda's is just a bunch of green blobs coming out of the ground that move slightly and are apparantly made of high sheen plastic
Amazing

>>381964552
This.

I have a theory that major graphicsfags like PCtards are terrible at vidoo games and typically have low-average IQs. I'm going to UCLA and a good chunk of people who are studying CS and failing their classes are mustardrace grafix whores. Meanwhile, some of the people getting published as undergrads tend to be really chill /v/ people who don't really game on PC

i think it makes sense though since mustards are reddit, and as we all know, /v/ is made up of smart people acting dumb and reddit it made up of dumb people acting smart.

>>381963238
>BotW
>Rehash

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>>381965021
*tips mature fedora*

>>381965435
Not him but 3D Zeldas were never good anyway, so it's just rehashing the same "bad game"-formula

>>381961758
Mario Odyssey looks fantastic but I hope nintendo can bring the resolution up to 1080p or at least a resolution higher than 720p because the aliasing is kinda ugly

I have hope though since Splatoon 2 went from 720p to 1080p

>>381965819
>nintenbros
>not being the fedoralords
Frankly, I'm suprised that there isn't already a MLP Mario game

>>381965116
Reddit is more patrician when you visit the correct places tho

>>381965116
Nice story anon

The graphics are technically 360 level, but the art style hides the flaws

Also 720p with no AA

>>381965837
>Not him but 3D Zeldas were never good anyway
Here's your (You)

>>381964552
>style is more important than polygon count.

The industry has been trying really hard to convince you saps of this for about a decade because IT SAVES THEM A FORTUNE. Looks like all their hard work is paying off. Enjoying being a sheep with your "stylized" graphics. Same fucktards that buy "organic hormone-free gmo-free water" from wholefoods for $3/bottle.

>>381961758
>"Worst and weakest"


[citation needed]
There is nothing "worst" and "weakest" about the hardware Nvidia has in the Switch.

>>381964001
The only 3D Mario games with 30 FPS are SM64, SM64DS, and 3D Land. Every other one is 60 FPS (Sunshine, Galacy 1, Galaxy 2, 3D World).

>>381966659
>implying they were
Way to refute my statement, cluckold

>>381967145
I'm pretty sure Sunshine runs at 30fps

They actually know how to optimize their games

>>381964735
>Their artists actually know what appeals to vidya fans

(within the constraints provided by western media, american education levels, multiculturalism, and social justice warriors)

>>381966727
i think that all disney movies are shit. cartoons look like shit. every single frame should be hyper realistic or else its not fucking worth my time.

>>381966887
>the hardware Nvidia has in the Switch.

>nvidia graphics card sold out, triple in price
>Switch with nvidia card sold out, doubled in price

cryptofags are buying out the Switch? This explains so much!

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>That retard that thinks "hurr Nintendo doesn't know what is or how to use good hardware" don't understand Nintendo only needs certain hardware to accomplish what they want to without wasting more money than needed so they can make a profit.

>>381966727
If you're buying consoles then you clearly don't care that much about graphics.

>>381967893
/thread

>>381961758
Unlike everyone else, they actually optimize their games.

>>381966727
poe's law?

>>381962841
>2005
>900p
hello, underage

>>381967607

You miss the point. Everything can look better. Stylized or not. Look at the grass in BotW for example. That grass can't look better without ruining the style. It can bend more lifelike, it can use more than 2 shades of green, it can have a bit more shadow and depth of field, without changing the style at all.

Just because graphics can be cheap, washed-out, ghetto-tier doesn't mean they should be. You should NOT be paying $60 for a game with half-assed art. You are ripping yourself off, and supporting the industry-of-shortcuts.

Your $60 deserves a game with more time spent making the game beautiful - whatever style that may be. Unless you're happy taking it up the ass while the guy next to you pays the same amount of money for a game that took 7 years to make instead of 6 months.

>>381964221
This has happened before, and it will happen again. The cycle will never be broken.

Art direction > Number of polygons and fancy engines

>>381968289
That point wasn't made in your previous post at all.

>>381968289
No making the grass more lifelike would be changing the style. Also adding a bunch more processing power for no discernable benefit.

>>381968515
>for no discernable benefit.
this anon just went full retard

>>381961758
They put emphasis on making the game look good, not impressive. I've always liked that about Nintendo. Their stuff is always pleasant to look at, whereas really technically impressive games can look boring as shit.

>>381962283
Infinite banding issues.

>>381968690
enlighten me. What's the benefit of it and how does it outweigh the extra computation cost

>>381969014
it's better and I don't give a fuck about your nerd costs

>>381969205
you're a fucking moron

>>381967893
and there it is

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>>381961758
Aesthetic direction > bigger graphics.

That's why.

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>>381968786
>Their stuff is always pleasant to look at
AH YES
BEAUTIFUL
and at a silky smooth 15FPS

Aesthetics>Polygon count
Look at 5th gen, everyone tried for realism and paid zero attention to aesthetics. Now 99% of games from that era are actual eyesores.

>>381961758
They get the city to work by cutting the animation of people who are further away by half, making their animations look choppy. Even further away than that people turn into 2D sprites with a few frames of animation, and as you get closer 3D models are phased in like in, say, Persona 5.

>>381961758
When you set your goals at what everyone else was working towards a generation ago, it's not hard to hit them.

>>381969661
That game is seriously the worst looking game Nintendo has ever put out

I don't know what they were thinking

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Show me a better looking game on the Switch

Go ahead

>>381962796
>Picks horizon for the comparison
>Ignores uncharted which also has dynamic foliage collision

lol

>>381969751
Good art design doesn't just make itself, you know.,

>>381969993
Nope, but it also has literally nothing to do with the hardware you are working on anymore.

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>>381966727
>game company saves money by not having over inflated ridiculous budgets
>do this by having graphics that look pleasant, but not cutting edge
>the money saved can go towards other aspects of the game that are more important or to other, more niche games that now have a higher chance of being made due to the lower budgets

I hope the world doesn't stop fucking turning due to this travesty.

>>381970136
the fuck do you mean?

>>381970201
>>the money saved can go towards other aspects of the game that are more important or to other, more niche games that now have a higher chance of being made due to the lower budgets
It doesn't though, it just gets funneled into dlc, or in nintendo's case amiibo locked content.

>We will never (or in 2025) get BoTW looking like an actual game instead of an outdated piece of garbage that i have to hide with fucking 4k + filters and other shit to make it looks passable

It hurts

>>381970302
baseline hardware nowadays isn't restrictive when it comes to art design like it was thirty years ago when you literally had to count the amount of colors you were using because the system couldn't handle many.

These games look nice because of artistic presentation, not because of any particularly nice graphical feats, of which they are honestly mediocre.

>>381970309
Is that so? And what evidence do you have to back this up?

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>People still claiming all the budget of games is because of muh hyper realistic graphixxx
>When most engines that let you have shiny graphics now are FUCKING FREE and easy to use

You can go fucking pick Unity and make a photorealistic level for the whole budget of 0 dollars

>>381970513
The fact that we constantly see the sort of extra things people used to work on, like secret modes/characters/easter eggs etc constantly wind up as either DLC or something you have to buy a toy to unlock off the disc?

>>381970486
>baseline hardware nowadays isn't restrictive when it comes to art design like it was thirty years ago when you literally had to count the amount of colors you were using because the system couldn't handle many.

right and graphics nowadays aren't as simple as yourself either.

>>381970725
Come back when you actually have something to say.

>>381970697
Yes, DLC exists. I'm asking you to show me evidence that the money saved on graphics specifically goes into DLC and not any other part of the game.

>>381962796


Game I did buy vs game I didn't buy, that's all it boils down to.

>>381970891


and yes, I own both a WiiU and PS4.

>>381970810
You know I can't unless I was literally nintendo, I just know that anymore they are spending money in development directly to produce disc locked content, which they gleefully advertise now in most games.

That money isn't going to anything to improve the game.

>>381971090
Oh okay, I just thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and allow you the chance to back up your claims before calling you out on making up bullshit.

>>381961758
Good art design carries you further than graphics desu

>>381971375
You understand that you also cannot prove that money is going to improve anything, right?

I at least have the trend of previously free bonus content becoming paywalled, vs your nothing.

>>381971523
I don't have to prove anything because I'm not claiming anything.

>>381971090
Why does everyone act every new Nintendo games either uses Amiibo (and even if it does is used for locked content, since not all Amiibo based games do) and/or has paid DLC? There are new Nintendo games that don't have either.

>>381971687
Because that doesn't fit his narrative.

>>381971687
Because damn near every big game they release now does use amiibo.

>>381971791
damn near every big game != every game

>>381971687
Most of their first party games that aren't quickie side projects, and even some of those, released ever since amiibos came out have amiibo content.

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>>381970696
The budget goes to paying the artists who have the create the assets. Have you ever watched the credits after a shitty AAA game? Pic related. Hundreds of artists. They're outsourced to China to keep it cheap but it's still way more expensive than making a low tech game with fewer people.

>>381965094
The grass' movement makes it appear more realistic and beautiful, variety be damned. Proper motion is more important than detail.

>>381971901
Nobody said every game has them, though, so, not sure what got a bee in your bonnet, Betsy.

>>381962498
When you are selecting you party just put the character you want to use at the top, where MC should be.

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>>381971972
>hundreds of artists
>~60

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>>381972281
That's only one page in the credits. It goes on.

Oh look! Twelve people just to fuck with the lighting! HD game development sure is cheap, thank you based Unity

>>381972281
That's just one of the outsourced art teams.

There's also internal art teams.

>>381972059
Then don't act like they do.

>>381972454
>don't act like they do

The post you replied to expressly stated MOST games.

Don't get mad because you don't take the time to read what you respond to. That's not their fault, that's yours.

>>381961758
720p

>>381962580
I want to be there...
fuck even with cartoon animation this makes me feel more immersed that fucking hyperrealistic poster games...

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>>381969947

Because they know it's all about style, not the photorealistic meme.

>>381972617
This I don't understand. It's 720p in handheld mode as well. Surely Nintendo could just use the docked double performance for double the pixels when in TV mode.

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>>381961758

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>>381973374
IS THAT REAL LIFE? WHOA!!!

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>>381973423

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>4 months later
>Still assblasted about botw

>>381965953

If it's 720p in handheld mode there has to be some graphical improvement for docked mode.
Unless it's 540p or something in handheld mode.

>>381967145

Actually Sunshine is 30 fps. Galaxy 1/2, 3D World, and Odyssey are 60 fps.

>>381961758
That game doesn't look very pretty to me.

Why do Sony fans shit up every thread? I don't want to see Horizon videos. I don't want to feel like the things I buy are the wrong things to buy.

Why can't we be friends? I know this is epic /V/, but let's drop the bullshit.

We're all gamers. Stop the fucking hate.

>>381973328
>>381973374
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>>381973485

Why is it that every time I see this game, it's just running away from robots or shooting them in random parts. Is that really all you do?

Where's the gameplay?

>>381963289
Was the wii u more powerful than the switch tho? Never bought it.

>>381975307
They're the same videos, fucktard. I haven't posted anything new.

Love your clever replies, though. Stay confident and good things will happen. =P

>>381961758
GC they reused Mario 128 code on everygame. (Water physics, WW's rope bridges, MKDD, etc.)

This game probably started on Wii U and reuses BotW and SM3DW code.

>>381975956
No the Wii U is not more powerful than the Switch despite what shitposters may tell you.

The Switch is more powerful than the Wii U in both portable and docked modes.

>>381961758
There better be a mission in Dinosaur world where i can teach cavemen organization and teamwork

>>381977675
Wut

>>381975956
The switch defeats the WiiU in varying degrees.
When running DX9 tier effects, the Switch is just 1.5-2 times faster than the WiiU (as seem with zelda, that jumped from 720p to 900p), but when running UE4like shit (PBR, Motion blur, TXAA etc..) the switch is 5 times faster (as seem with fast RMX, that jumped from 640x720 to 1920xs1080/1600x900).