Has Bethesda officially replaced EA as the worst publisher? Explain

>>381952298
After E3, they're both pretty fucking bad.

>>381952298
They're in my top 5 worst publishers for sure, but I think they're a step above EA because Doom and Wolfenstein TNO tuned out to be very good.

Everything they showed at E3 was a re-release. I doubt there is anything new or interesting being worked on.

>what are jokes...
Not that I'm surprised that someone who hates Skyrim can't appreciate a good jape. Me and my friends roared with laughter when we saw that but it was followed by collective face palming when we saw all the follow up posts on /v/ and reddit...
>THERE NOT EVEN SELF AWARE OMG LOLOLOL
*shudders at the memory*

>>381952629
This is bait.

>>381952629
bait

>paid mods are bad
>modders aren't entitled to compassionate for their work

Retard

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>>381952629
YAMATE

Nah, Bethesda came out with DOOM this gen. I enjoyed that more than any EA release

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>>381952629

Slowpoke.jpg

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>>381952629
Same here, fellow gamer. I had a good chuckle at the Crab Armor DLC which is coming to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: Special Edition for PS4, Xbox One, and PC for only $19.99. Be sure to preorder today!.

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>>381952629

>>381952543
>Everything they showed at E3 was a re-release
that's not true at all

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>>381952629
these replies are dumb, they knew what they were doing

Oh fugg snibbity snabb :DDD

>>381952298
EA buys up smaller companies and destroys them
Beth is trying really hard to push paid mods

whichever is worse is up to you

>>381953020

What was new? Paid mods isn't even new, its a second swing.

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>>381952802
Yeah unoriginal faggots who want to make money off someone elses game and ruin the pc modding scene which had always been just for fun do not deserve money. They deserve to die in a hole.

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>>381952629
(Thou)

I get the crab armor joke, sort of, but what was so funny about that bear clip that they showed it off like 5 times?

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>>381952629
>haha lol we remember that joke from the magazine, get it? us gamers amirite :P
>[yeah that'll soften the blow, now make those goyim pay up]

>>381952629
quality fucking post

>>381953217
Kys retard

>>381953101
Beth is also the reason DLC/microtransactions are what they are today.

One is showing the market how to fuck consumers, the other on how to snatch/fuck developers.

>>381953137
>Everything they showed at E3 was a re-release

>What was new?
Wolfenstein 2 The New Collosus
Quake Champions
The Evil Within 2
Dishounered DLC
Elder Scrolls Legends
Doom VR

>re-release
Skyrim Switch/VR
Fallout VR

don't over exaggerate shit

>>381953979
+1 my friend good job

>>381953979
Of worthy not I only see Wolf 2, EW2 and Dishonored DLC. The rest we either already know about or is shit so small most people don't about. Paid mods and virtue signaling also hurt them pretty bad.

It wasn't "nothing new" but they sure blew a lame EA-tier load this year.

>>381953979
>sequel
>remake/reimaging/sequel
>sequel
>stand alone DLC/ sequel
>spinoff
>literally a new mode for a game that already exists or, if you are really really stretching, a sequel

yawn

>>381954213
*note, *care

Jesus Bstab what the hell.

Anti-Bethesda trolls getting BTFO so hard in this thread!

>>381953979
Because quake Champions and elder scrolls legends are totally new you drooling bethdrone

>>381952802
If a modder wants to be paid there is nothing stopping them from making their own little webpage and having people pay for the mod. They shouldn't have to jump through hoops to do it just so some jews can get their undeserved money. Then again this is a 0/10 bait post.

>>381953494
Someones mad nobody s gonna buy their crab armor mod. Get a real job faggot

>>381952802
>compassionate
lel

Also the first time paid mods happened, the entire community mindset changed for the worse and only decreased in quality/originality and split people over thievery/earnings-splits as a result. Most of that money went to GabeN's fat ass and Zenimax's jewnoses anyways.

>not sending review copies until release date
>putting denuvo on everything
its like they don't want you to know the game is trash until you already bought it

>>381952815
I want to fuck that fish

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skrim came out in 2011

>>381954423
>there is nothing stopping them from making their own little webpage and having people pay for the mod.
EXCEPT FOR LAW, you mean. Because selling mods unless you have an explicit permission by the provider of the original work is actually completely illegal in just about all countries.

>>381952298
Replaced? no
they are equality shit now

>>381954371
sure as fuck not re-releases you goal post moving nigger

>>381952802
>be mod
>bethesda OR steam and bethesda take a 75% cut of the sales

now defend this.

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>>381952815
>drawing a fishgirl without DSL

>>381955262
I can assure you that those modders are going to take 25% over NOTHING. And they were. It's neat that you get outraged on behalf of someone completely different from you and who never asked you for your input or opinions though. Kinda reminds me of someone...

>>381952298
No, because I like the *VIDEO GAMES* Bethesda publishes, while don't like the *VIDEO GAMES* EA published.

Key word there is published, TES and Fallout can suck a penis.

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>>381955474
Are you also aware that bigger modders have donation options on places like the nexus? or the fact that people can also pay them to make a mod for them? why take peanuts and give the lazy devs that are bethesda your money? why would i buy a buggy as shit game and then have to pay for a patch to fix the game?

>>381952298
Bethesda doesn't kill franchises/developer teams on the regular, so no, EA still has them beat.

>>381952663
>>381952692
>>381952815
>>381952965
>>381953196
>>381953256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA
>summer summer summerfags

>>381953453
fuck yeah dude that was a good post

>mods in every game will be behind a paywall and hypernormalism will make it so nobody will even give a shit anymore
yes, fuck Bethesda, they're taking something free and innocent and turning it into an attempt to suck the money out of the wallets of their biggest fans

They have some bad business practices but in terms of what games they publish they are the best right now.

>>381955474
>here's you plate scraps, it's better than nothing!
>nonono don't question your superiors!

Significant gains or not I'd feel pretty jew'd out of my potential even if I were somebody wanting to sell mods (and as somebody who's helping friends sell games).

Oh, and your SJW-comparison also falls flat on the fact that supporting increasing corporate thievery (both to the players and sellers) is as detrimental to our (key phrase there) hobby as attention whores who had nothing to do with them initially.

I still can't believe Bethesda is so greedy and selfish they actually think modders deserve some kind of compensation for the work they do.

>>381955756
>Are you also aware that bigger modders have donation options on places like the nexus?
Yes. Except those donations are voluntary and by LAW cannot be condition for the distribution of that mod. Which is, as you should be able to understand, something a little different than PAYING FOR THE MOD.
>why take peanuts and give the lazy devs that are bethesda your money?
I wonder if you are actually physically braindamaged. The answer is: because those peanuts are going to be still a fuckton more than they could ever make through donations and commissions.

>why would i buy a buggy as shit game and then have to pay for a patch to fix the game?
Presumably this is not going to be aimed at patches, but rather content mod. As for why would you buy a shitty Bethesda game: well, I don't know. I'm not sure why anyone would buy it: free mods or paid mods. But if you never intended to buy it in the first place, then what the EVERLIVING FUCK are you whining about in the first place?

If you don't understand why would somebody join this venture, then you are a complete, utter, baffling retard and about as clueless as you could ever be about the situation in the industry. Mod makers are going to join because it's gonna allow them to make money. Money they could not make otherwise.

As for why people would buy those mods... that is an entirely different question. One I can't answer, but I don't give a fuck about the answer either. It's up to the market to figure out.

Fun fact for all you retards complaining about this just now:
Ever heard of E.Y.E.? Gunman Chronicles? Team Fortress? Red Orchestra?
Well. Those are paid mods. They have been around for quite a while, actually. Welcome to reality.

>>381956384
shut the fuck up cunt

you're a retard

>>381952829
Nu-Doom was fucking garbage though. I refuse to believe that anyone who actually played the originals liked that garbage.

>>381956369
Tell me, what in your mind justifies Bethesda getting paid for fanmade content?

>>381956220
>>Significant gains or not I'd feel pretty jew'd out of my potential
You'd feel. That is funny. NOBODY GIVES A FUCK.
Nobody gives a fuck about your feelings on behalf of other people? Are you making mods? No. So what the fuck. Leave it up to the people who actually do something.
If a modder does not feel this is right then he does not have to actually participate in this. It IS optional. And thankfully, unlike with absolute clusterfuck of the previous attempt, it seems they are going to at least try to combat plagiatorism.

I am completely baffled by kids who don't actually do anything and aren't in any way involved going around talking on behalf of others and how it's "totally scummy".
PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE MONEY OUT OF MODS AT THIS POINT.
This is not actually worsening their situation. we can argue about the impact on customers, but for fuck sake it's improvement over the previous condition for the fucking moders.

It's not fucking thievery: It's fucking voluntary. Free modding is staying. It's not going anywhere, not any time soon. If you don't like corporation making money out of your mod then... DON'T. Don't fucking pitch it to them. End of fucking discussion.

This is absolutely fucking silly.

>>381956469
That is a convincing argumentation, I guess. Protip: next time, if you have no arguments, just stop posting. Doing things like this just makes you look silly.

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>>381956917
no shut the fuck up fucking retarded redittor shill

>>381956571
The fact that it's a mutual deal between Bethesda, the creators, and buyers.

If you want to blame anybody, blame people who spend money on horse armor, they're at fault here. It's Bethesda's obligation to stay in business and maximize profit. They aren't infringing on anybody's rights or doing anything wrong, you would do the same thing in their shoes.

>>381952298
Bethesda publishes good games like Wolfenstein once in a while. EA doesn't do anything except give yurop the yearly FIFA.
And I never use mods anyway so I don't care about whatever it is they're doing here.

>>381952298
oh jesus

>>381956563
most people who did play the original liked DOON 2017

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>>381952298
i care not because I expect no better

>>381956563
what the fuck did you not like

it does not pander to COD babies and it is just as brutal and arcade like as the original

>>381952539
It's a shame id (including Wolf) is clumped together with Bethesda

>>381952298
No, because Bethesda isn't a publisher.

They're a developer.

ZeniMax publishes.

>>381958546
Actually, it looks like Beth, being so insanely financially secure through the festivals of mediocrity that TES is, is actually giving them confidence to take more risks than most other publishers. Hence games like Wolfenstein, Dishonored and Prey.

>>381958635
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks
>Bethesda Softworks LLC is an American video game publisher based in Rockville, Maryland.

So no. Bethesda Softworks is a publisher. It just happens to be a part of a larger medial giant called Zenimax. Ironically enough, Bethesda actually is a publisher for (among others) a company called "Zenimax Online Studio".

It's not really a big difference, in fact it's completely irrelevant, but yeah: Bethesda Softworks is a publisher and publisher ONLY.

Bethesda Game Studios is actually the actual developer.

>>381955032

literally came out on the 11/11/11

>>381955756
>that episode of Kablaam where her clothes were vanishing

>>381959041
see >>381958635

>>381958635
Are you confusing Bethesda Softworks with Bethesda Game Studios? One of them is a publisher, the other is a developer of TES and Fallout. Zenimax is a parent company.

>>381959380
Are you... retarded?
There are two companies by the name "Bethesda".
One is called "Bethesda Softworks" and it's a publisher.
The other is called "Bethesda Game Studios" and that one is a developer.

Zenimax is not actually a publisher of anything. It's a media company and a stockholder. It was actually founded by Bethesda Softworks founders only as a legal consolidator for multiple media projects those people were planning to do. Zenimax itself never published anything.

>>381952539
Publisher wise they're pretty alright, they have good dev teams under their belt

Bethesda game studio has been real shit with its past two releases