Is this the end of affordable PC gaming? Nvidia [rices are just

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come on in pools clean waters fine

>>381922932
I can buy an rx480 for 250 euros right now. It might be just an US problem

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>>381922932
Reason why they are going up in price people like this...

What happened? I just bought a 1070 last month for $400 USD.

>>381922932
is this USA prices?
i am living in a third world country with batshit insane import and consumer taxes and it's 343$
in my country. what's going on?

Did bitcoin of other currency get a big boost in value suddenly?

>>381923880
Ethereum mining. Every AMD GPU is sold out or $700, so Nvidia prices have slowly been rising since those are the only GPU's you can actually buy. 1070's are more expensive than 1080's because GDDR5 is slightly more efficient than GDDR5X.

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>>381922932

>1060
>$697

>>381922932
Those aren't the only GPUs out there retard.

>>381922932
check crypto market right now, shit is crashing

> not securing your future and provide for your future wife or current family by investing in crypto currencies

>>381924387
Well I don't know what that even is and looking it up didn't give me many answers. I've never fully understood the digital "currency" thing.

Stupid. I'm sorry people can't get the GPU's they want. Fuck artificial price inflation

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>>381923803

>You will never have enough money to simply buy 95 $300gpus on a whim

>>381924782

This is why the rich get richer.

Investing a lot of money is how you get really rich, not working hard.

>>381924542

Time to buy used GPU's

>>381924527
Anything that's better than a 1050Ti is overpriced or sold out. 1080's and 1080Ti's aren't even good at mining and the prices of those are still skyrocketing.

>>381924387
yeah, this

it shouldn't be too long before the difficulty goes up enough to make mining unprofitable, though, so just wait a while

also don't buy any used GPUs for the forseeable future

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>>381924542
>check crypto market right now, shit is crashing

It's crashing cause of this dumb fuck here. >>381923803

He said it himself, supply and demand. Only the GPU sellers will win on this since they were creating GPUs any way. Early gen miners already cashed out last year, all the new miners rushing to make a dollar will crash the market.

Well, either way money is bound to made. How much and for how long depends entirely on the over saturation of bitcoins.

>>381924930

Eh I wouldn't really want to buy a GPU that's been stressed nonstop for mining.

>>381925075
Mining difficulty is going up in July, but only the 400 and 500 series is going to be affected. The 10 series and the 200/300 series is going to do just fine. Enjoy never owning a 10 series.

>>381924782
>When someone who can't spell dilemma is able to buy 95 GPUs on a whim.

>>381924930
>Time to buy used GPU's

Would you buy a car with 200K miles in it? That's what a GPU used in a mining operation would be like after 6 months.

Running full speed, none stop, 24/7 until it breaks.

Thinking of upgrading from my GTX 660. Is it worth it to wait until prices dip, or just buy now?

Are GTX 1060s actually being being bought for GTX 1070-esque prices instead of just being highly priced? I ask because I wonder if I could sell my 1060 and then ride out the crash (which seems soon/now) with my old 770 and then buy a 1070 when it goes back to normal

>>381922932
It was supposed to be an age of low cost gpus but scalpers have ruined the party for everybody.

I have US$20000 saved. Should I start a bitcoin / ethereum mining operation? How much profit can I earn from it?

>>381925507
>Thinking of upgrading from my GTX 660. Is it worth it to wait until prices dip, or just buy now?

Are you retarded? Why pay inflated prices when nvidia volta is out Q1 2018.

>>381925318
that's true if no more mining power is added, but as you can see, it is

>>381925582
Yes because of the mining faggotry. The usual crash has begun however.

>>381925595
No. Invest in AMD during the next downturn and hold for one year.
You would have made a killing if you had bought when they were 2 dollars a share.
And don't be a stupid faggot by investing all of it in AMD. Diversify.

>>381925595
sure, it's free money. start two operations, even. put all your savings in

The ethereum market will crash soon

>>381925507

Just wait. Market is really uncertain now. When prices come down, they may go lower than what they were due to all the used GPUs hitting the market, but my guess is that they will hover slightly higher than their original prices.

GT660 is really weak though. Try to save up some money for a 580 or 670. By the time prices come down, the 660 will be a rather weak option.

>>381925851
It literally is right now, if you willing to take the risk on used gpus you'll be able to find some really really cheap cards in a month or two

>Think this is a fucking US meme and in no way happening in my small Euro country
>Check prices online
>Every single 580 and 1060 sold out
>Prices high as fuck for the 1070

what the fuck

>>381925595

Start small if you really want, see how it goes. You're behind the curve on this one, you might catch the tail end before the crash.

You're going to be competing with people that how warehouses full of rendering farms, so instead of trying to out do them, which is impossible with your tiny budget, just focus on earning extra instead of earning big.

what the fuck is mining?

>>381926086
Don't take the risk. I know some people that did and they got fucked.

>>381926331

>Bought a 480 8gig for $180
>Refurbished models are going for $320 tody

Feels good to be a gangsta.

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>sell my 980ti for 400€
>sell some old hardware for another 400
>get a 1080 ti and never look back

>>381926556
>not selling it for $500+ and getting a better card
YOU FOOL

>>381926360
the newest form of fiat currency backed by block chains of metadata
i.e. rare pepes

Time to invest in AMD then, not in that cryptocoins scheme

You can still get a used 1060 for like 240 or a 1070 for like 360

with a 1050 I should be able to run most modern games on ultra right? How can I tell if it will fit my MOBO?

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>>381926331
I live in fucking Brazil where energy prices are high as fuck and I was saving up to buy a 580 since I have a freesync monitor. The thing used to cost about R$ 1000 and now I have this

>>381922932
pcbros btfo by pcbros.

I've read cryptocurrency will replace currency and money transactions as we know them. Is that true?

>>381926875
It will fit if you bought your PC within the last 7 years.

>>381926875

If your MOBO has a PCI express slot, it will fit. All mobos since 2011 come with at least express slot. Better question is, would it fit your case? You need 12inches of space length wise to be certain. My old 6950 was a beast at 11.5, like it's owner. My new 480 is 10 in length.

>>381927036
nope, only supplement it
it's basically open source accounting

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Good luck I am not in the market for a new GPU

But still this is fucked up. That's why we can't have nice things.

>>381927172
>only supplement it
No it wont. We literally have what cryptos have been trying to achieve for years now and it's called paypal.

>>381922932
>buying a new gpu before Vega

lol, call me when they release something to give a shit about.

>>381924915
t.commie

>>381926728

If I sell it, I won't have a GPU to play with. If I sell it for $400, that wouldn't be enough to buy a 580 or 970 at the current inflated price. I'd have more money but be GPUless.

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Got a 980ti for $200. Amazon said the box was damaged so it was half price. Box was fine but it looked like everything was taken out of the box and put back in. Guessing someone returned it.

>>381927585
>Sell For $500+, easily achievable
>Buy a 1080 which is still not price gouged
You're just lazy.

>>381923803
fuck that guy

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>>381922932
Don't worry, the GPU mining bubble is popping as we speak.

>>381923803
This guy is stupid as fuck. If he can source that many GPUs, he will get more profit by selling it to pleb miners than mining it himself but euphoric cryptards have no common sense.

>>381927771
Nice snag

>>381927448
>paypal
>a currency
paypal is a not-bank
they also make interest from holding your cash which is why they often say they need 1 to 2 days before a transac goes through

>>381928269
site is that?

is it true that the crash was literally because of a death hoax?

Sheeeeit, I'm glad I upgraded to an EVGA GTX 1070 back in early January. I'm still enjoying everything maxed out with a 144hz monitor.

>>381928629
>currency
Cryptos are not currency. They are literally used more as a commodity like gold than currency.

Using paypal and using crypto as a "normal user" is the same but crypto is even more harder to use.

>they also make interest from holding your cash which is why they often say they need 1 to 2 days before a transac goes through
Same with crypto exchanges. OH noes, we have technical difficulties(because price is down) then those problems are magically fixed when the price is high.

And I was a heavy paypal user. That 1-2 days is because of your local bank. I befriended some bank employees and that 1-2 days was down to a few hours, 12 hours max.

>>381924915
Being wise with your money is how you get rich.

I'm gonna put 100 dollaredoos into crypto. It seems like a fun little side hobby.

>>381923803
>I want to sell my extra cards
>Wtf, stop offering me fair prices on already opened cards, only retail or higher

That guy is a top-tier jackass

>>381923803
Hope an electrical fire burns all those graphics cards

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>>381927202
>tfw can't have nice things ever because legions of hustling fucks will descend on everything that even smells a little like a free buck like a goddamn locust swarm
So tired of this planet.

>>381923880
This is where all the graphics cards went.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJgWqbZBn6I

>>381922932
>pc gaming
why play games on a bitcoin mining device in the first place lol

I have a 980, is it too late to hop on the Ethereum meme train?

>>381930005
If you can hodl, then no it's not too late.

>>381930005
980 Isn't power efficient enough to make it worth while.

>bought a 1080 last summer
>bought 16 GB RAM kit and 500 GB SSD for cheap
Best decision I made last yeat

>>381927924

Just checked newegg and the cheapest 1080 was $550.

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>mfw my gpu has actually appreciated 33% in value since I bought it
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-08G-P4-6276-KR/dp/B01I60OGUK

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>>381927003
>almost bought a gigabyte rx580 for R$1000 a month ago at Pichau
>choose to wait more
>mfw

So when will there be a market for cards manufactured strictly for the purpose of mining as opposed to video games?

>>381930332
Electric is included in my rent and I'm going to be out of the country for nearly a month so I was thinking about leaving it on and letting it make me a whole $12 in virtual money.

>>381931028
ASIC miners

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>want to sell my 380x
>too afraid too because of all the horror stories i've heard about ebay

>>381927003
>costing almost as much as a 1080ti

MINER GENOCIDE WHEN

FUCKING MONGRELS WANNABE FARMERS HOW THE FUCK THEY'LL PROFIT WITH SUCH HIGH ENERGY PRICES

Not happening in UK kek.

Just checked scan.co.uk
Everything is normal.

>>381931028
already in the works and will be in market soon by both companies

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Post yfw the crypto meme crashes

>>381922932
>700$ for a 1060
This is Canada?

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>>381923803
>there are tons of these kinds of retards that caused the GPU prices to go retarded
>GPU started to artifact a couple days ago

>>381931654
Read the thread, there's a national shortage of GPU's in the US and other countries because of mining.

http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/accessories/apd/a9083544?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A9083544

>6GB 1060 at $260

Is this the only place I can find one for this price?

>>381923803
>work in Small business IT
My boss literally bought 5 1080 Ti's
For this miner shit it seems cool but it'll crash once the price gets too high for cards and no one will buy

>>381923803
Why are people like this even bothering with mining?

>>381931948
Money

>>381931479
4GB Sapphire Radeon RX 570 PULSE ITX, 14nm Polaris, 2048 Streams, 1244MHz GPU, 7000MHz GDDR5, DP/HDMI/DVI-D
LN80156
£229.99

I bought a MSI 470 4gb for £170 last year, they can fuck right off.

>>381932012
I mean he clearly has more than enough money.
inb4 there's always not enough money

>>381925085
>what is difficulty adjustment

>>381932204
no one has enough money by their own standards

So glad I got my R9 Fury for $250 last year.

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>>381931610

Bitcoin mining is fucking stupid now.
Whats the point just to make $0.1

>>381932863
It makes sense in countries with low wages

>>381932863
when the value of crypto currencies have been climbing nonstop for the past like 4 years, it kinda always seem like a good way to make a quick and easy buck

>>381926875
If youre asking this question,your cpu os prolly shit.

Check if its okay fot gaming.

>>381923803
>buying the GPUs when you already have this much money

fucking retard should've just purchased the coins

>>381931028
Yes you can by em now with no video ports.

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>>381923803
the comments are fucking gold on this thread, guy is totally convinced that everything is fine. There is no way he's getting his ROI with how fucking dumb he is. He even got his family in on the scheme and it's falling down around him. HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH REGULAR HARDWARE TO SET UP THE MACHINES. AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

>>381924915
this guy is a literal mouth breathing retard. don't envy him, he's making a lot of other people rich.

I want to build a pc with a 1080, is $950 usd too much for one right now? I'm not too savy on gpu prices

>>381936739
wait for vega to come out, with any luck, that will cause nvidia to drop price, or you might even want the vega itself.

>>381923803
Hope he dies in a fire.

>Saved up for a good PC
>This happens

JUST

What about these cunts' power bills? Electricity ain't free.

>>381937339
Hey, that's me who made that post. Please refrain from making comments like that in the future. Thanks.

>>381937747
No way fag.

Saved $500 for a video card, the same card is now almost $700
Maybe I'll buy a switch and some games
Thanks miners

>>381937676
The people who started this meme were a bunch of NEET slavs whose babushka pays for everything.

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>>381937676

but look at all the money to be made, anon

https://badmofo.github.io/ethereum-mining-calculator/

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>be Russian
>see this thread
>check local internet shops
>GPUs sold out
>the ones that left are doubled the price
What the everloving fuck? We were already fucked over by crysis and our prices on electronics literally doubled and now they doubled AGAIN.
HOLY FUCKING SHITFUCK. FUCKING DIE YOU MINING FAGGOTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm gonna laugh for days once the crash happens I know some retard who blew all of his money trying to get in on it too late and ends up killing himself I know it's super edgy

>Bought a new 1060 last year when my old 660 ti crapped out before this shit started.

Feels good.

>>381931694

This is me. Rma'd a card under warranty after artifacts showed up, received a new card and it just shits itself at random. Got another rma, praying its not just my rig thats fucked.

>>381931694
Don't worry about it, I have a 4870 thats been artifacting for 7 years and it's still kicking. Have it in my TV now. Only gets bad after a cold boot but letting the GPU drivers crash and restart fixes it.

>bought a 1070 because it came with gears of war 4 for £250
>price is no a minimum of £400 across the board

feels good brehs, fuck these miner jews

>>381938483
Hey don't worry, this mining shit always crashes and when it does these miners will have too god damn many and supply will already be restocked in stores, you might even see some getting sold for cheap in the near future.

>>381922932
The governments of the world need to set aside their efforts for just a moment and collaborate to bring a permanent and unalterable conclusion to all cryptocurrencies. This will be the bridge that finally crosses the chasm on the road to world peace.

>>381940003
Burnt out GPUs are a bad buy. 100% load 24/7, probably overclocked, does bad things to a GPU.

>>381940337
>efforts
I'm so disgusted by this whole idea of cryptocurrencies I momentarily forgot how to type 'differences'.

>>381924646
Ask /biz/.

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>>381938483
Dont buy any of these cards off of ebay.

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>>381923803
I know there are some /g/ people here, so here's my question:
Wouldn't some nerds in charge of a University computer science lab or whatever have the necessary knowledge scale and capital to utterly BTFO amateur idiots that follow how to guides on youtube?

Surely if there is money to be made in mining, some bigwigs are the ones who are going to mine?

Imagine some Slavs stuck in Siberia (free cooling 24/7) with subsidized electricity making a killing. Then compare that to the retard from NY.

>tfw gotta delay upgrading again
I guess I could buy some new headphones instead

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>>381931610
I literally can't wait for all these retards to go broke from betting on goddamned internet monopoly money. I hope they all fucking choke on cocks made from their own hubris.

>>381940674
university computers have more important things to dedicate their time to

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But.. I got the MSI gtx1060 for 260 a 3weeks ago.

Did I just dodged a bullet?
It feels great to be back to PC gaming again by the way.

What the hell's happening with cryptocurrency that's causing this sudden surge? I didn't have this issue getting my 1070 on black friday...

>>381940674
cryptomining only scales with more horsepower, so it's all about capital and like >>381940715 says it'd be a waste of a university's time.

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Why the fuck people keep falling for this fucking bitcoin scam? It smells like a huge scheme that was initially intended to launder money and then they realized they could get some extra dosh by fooling some dumbfuck libertarians.

>You get coins by solving some encryptation shit to approve other people's transactions
>You need a huge frontload of investment before hand. If your setup is week, you get nothing
>Start mining NOW! Bitcoin is the currency of the future, goy!
>No real world value, the only places that accept this shit are drug cartels and some retards that believe that their investment will pay off

Can't fucking wait until this shit crashes

>think OP is a faggot
>check amazon
>same deal there

what the fuck happened, i got a 6gb 1060 for $280 8 months ago

>>381923803
but how is this so sudden, i thought bitcoin mining was just slowing down in profitability?

>>381941563
>>381941107
Legitimately clueless here, Universities make more money computing other stuff?

>>381941226
Miners don't look for nVidia cards, but those weren't fast enough to get 'em might look for them now. So yeah, I think you dodged a bullet.

>>381941889
dude, Bitcoin isn't actually worth any money

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Just started getting these weird visual glitches on my 1070 today. Only happens in my browser/emulator. Does that mean my card is dying and needs to be RMA'd?

>>381941882
It's actually topped $3K in value for the first time and there's been a few new algorithms released that require the newer hardware apparently

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>>381923803
>mfw ETH fell to $250 today
I wonder if he's considering suicide

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>>381931294
We need to open deathcamps for miners, this is getting out of hand.

>>381941980
Damn you're right, I checked the same store I got it. It's 330 now.
AMD is making mad cash between Ryzen and this huh.

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>>381942109
EVGA?
GPU is dying

>>381922932
I bought my MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6G "Gaming X" for $270 and got a $30 rebate. Anyone who buys that card for 700 is literally fucking retarded, you can get 1080s for less than 700. It's all about being patient and waiting for the ones at a proper price to be restocked.

>>381930986
dude hardware only goes down in price the longer you wait :))))

>>381942280
ASUS
Got it for boxing day.
Weird since it only ever runs at 60°C max.

>>381941653
The very early anarchist weed smokers who bought into it were the only ones to actually make bank

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>/v/ most of the time: capitalism, ho!
>/v/ when miners go full retard: WE MUST SEIZE THE MEANS OF COMPUTING AND REDISTRIBUTE THEM TO DESERVING GAMERS!


Btw, why aren't they using the new consoles for this? if I remember correctly, PS3 clusters were used a decade ago in clusters.

>>381942275
Yeah, but it seems they can't keep up the pace of the miners community, hence the empty stocks and prices going up almost 300% all over the world. But I guess there's nothing they can do about it. The more they produce, the more miners will buy.

>money situation is pretty good
>have a little over a grand to treat myself after a good amount of saving
>thinking of buying a 1080ti along with a 4k monitor
>haven't followed cryptocurrency in years
>go to look at prices
>mfw

jesus fucking christ I thought this shit died when mt gox or whatever crashed and burned. Can you niggers please stop it's not going to happen.

>>381923803
>another rich douchebag saying "buh-hurr durr muh ekonomix"
Fools and their money are not parted quickly enough, apparently.

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1050 Ti is still cheap.

>>381942557
I'm not even mad, I'm pretty sure some kind of solution will come to solve this problem.

>>381942557
Because AMD dirt cheap cards makes miners moist lately no idea why.

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>>381923803
Hes definitely fucked, No one will buy those cards for more than 250. Hope he commits suicide when he realizes how much he'll actually lose.

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>>381942168

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>>381942658
No one's gonna buy that memecard. you could get a previous gen for the exact same price and better performance.

>>381942736
I love /biz/

all the normalfags just realized cryptocurrencies were a thing, its a fad thatll only last a couple more months at most

>>381923501
My brother actually works at Qualcomm.
I think discussion all the cool mobile tech they do would be pretty interesting but we don't really talk much any more. Sage for my shitty blogpost

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>1060s for $700
Nobody is this retarded, right? Right?

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>>381942736

>>381942557
The CELL™ was a hell of a lot different than the shitty mobile CPU's in the PS4 and Xbone. Also mining is more GPU-intensive than CPU-intensive. If you hacked a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X you could mine, but they would probably overheat.

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>>381942736

>>381942913
He wouldn't talk anyways NDAs are serious things.

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>>381942658
>was planing to build a PC this May
>aiming at 1060 or even 1070 if I could get a coupon
>decide to postpone till August because no free time till then
Fuck, I may just have save loads of money now by going for a 1050 and upgrade whenever the bubble bursts. But it just feel wrong to get a 7th generation i5 and a high-end mobo for a fucking 1050.

>>381922932
The 1060 6GB was $250 like a week ago, what the fuck happened

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>>381942736

>>381942658
fuck that shit im not getting any gay ass limp dick card

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>>381922932
Bought my 1070 on the week it came out. Instead of waiting a year and being a cheap ass, maybe mow some more lawns and save up your allowance to get one.

>>381942697
>I'm pretty sure some kind of solution will come to solve this problem.
It will crash. It already crashed hard two times before this. Maybe even more, I wasn't really keeping track.

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>>381942736

>>381942736
What board is this and why are they shitposting so hard?

>>381943047
>actually buying an i5

>>381941889
universities progress their research = get more money from grants and also help society with their discoveries

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Still have to put together my pc. I got a bunch of advice from last night, but I'm excited to finally buy everything and put this shit together.

>>381943242
Do you not know how tor read a url anon?

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>>381942736
Marvelous

>>381943282
specs, I want to laugh at your PSU choice

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>EVGA 1060 is $500
>Got mine for $250 last december

Good fucking lord, did this mining meme happen overnight? I'm so goddamn glad I didn't wait for prices to drop

>>381943242
anon... you might be retarded

>>381943381
Doesn't answer the second part of my question.

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>>381943246
>videogames making use of an i7

>>381943415
its been going on for the past few months
RX 580 have almost never been in stock

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>>381943415
>tfw you waited for the price drop

>>381943454
Because ETH is crashing. Did you not read this thread?

>>381943483
buy the new i9 or don't buy anything at all
what are you, a casual?

>>381943632
What's ETH?

>>381943454
anon... you ARE retarded

>>381943454
you can easily find the context right in this thread

>>381925595
do not mine
invest

>>381943702
Try google or alternatively try /biz/.

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>mfw I built my PC last summer

>>381943723
>hurr durr durrf

Whatever you say.

I have half a mind to rip the brand new 1060 out of my PC and sell it to whatever half-retarded moron that would buy it for $700 fucking dollars
Shit mine is a 6G and I only paid $250 for it

>>381943702
Im assuming is the shortening of Ethereum. The Crypo Currency that caused this mess

>>381943483
Ryzen 5 makes the i5 lineup almost entirely obsolete. You lose like 5fps and gain 2 cores and 8 threads.

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>>381943702
Just another virtual coin. But don't worry, once it crashes you just have to buy the NEW ETH[2.0]™ coin! This time it will surely pay off! You don't want to get left behind, do you, anon? So you better start buying now! BUY BUY BUY BUY!!!!!!!!!!

>>381943403
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r22r8K
Okay. It's probably terrible, but it's a first.

>all these people complaining about being "stuck" with a modern gpu when I'm actually stuck with a 550ti
Oh the joys of being a poorfag.

>>381943964
Only do so if you have a backup GPU. Nvidia GPUs rarely age well.

>>381942658
What do I look like, a cuck? I wouldn't put a wimpy-ass card like that in a fucking magic the gathering deck

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>>381922932
>tfw you were planning to build your first vidya PC in a week or two when you had the cash

I was gonna get a 1060 too.

>>381942570
>all over the world
prices are normal here in turkey, since our stock depends on europe i think they are fine too

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>>381923803
>Take a dip into the thread to see if people were tearing into him
>It turns out that doing large scale mining is illegal where he's at and he didn't know

MY FUCKING SIDES

>>381942658
Why is there an F-22 there

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>>381943483
>buy 1600
>have two entire extra cores for the OS + SMT
>can hit nearly max OC on stock heatsink
>can just plop in a Zen3 in 2019
>only performs 2% worse at 1920x1080
>still cheaper

>>381944064
I still have an R9 270 but it was overheating a lot when I tried to play BF1 on very low settings with like 50% resolution scaling so it would be hard to go back

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>>381944042
>That cooler
>on a 7700k

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>>381922932
Just buy older flagship cards until the crypto bubble bursts, invest the remaining money in a great cpu and board, you can upgrade the card later.

Anything beyond a 7950 should give you great performance @1080p up to 2015 and decent performance for anything released after.

>>381938426
My monopoly money is worth more than that.

>>381923803
>the "it's not my fault, blame economics :^)" defense

I hope he dies a horrible death.

>>381944297
>it's probably terrible
>reading

Damn son

>>381944242
>>only performs 2% worse at 1920x1080
And the framepacing is better.

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>>381942736
/biz/ still remain a solid board when it goes to banter

>Can't get a gpu to upgrade my pc
>Slowly getting back into console gaming

well, thanks a lot, crypto dicks.

>>381944434
the rest of your build is so overkill and you go for a cpu cooler worse then the 212?
Its hard not to laugh

>>381937050
then it turns out vega is only as good as a 1070 or slightly better i'm tired of AMD making there shit sound amazing then it barely scratches Nvidia. I want something substantial damnit

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I can only imagine how much prices will inflate on those already overpriced prebuilt faggot computers.

>>381944297
>tf2 image
ew, opinion trashed

Crypto currency is fucking dumb. It's not even real. What the fuck are they "mining"? Literally nothing.

>>381942736
>Go to /biz/ to actually talk about business since I run a small business
>It's just a bunch of people pretending they are gordon gecko and crypto currency people.

This was honestly really disappointing for me.

>>381923803
>doesn't very little, if any research
>buys far too many that he can use
>tries to claim superiority over everyone who's mad
>someone tells him, "you know that what you're doing is illegal without going through the proper channels, right?"
>responds with "no, I didn't."

What a fucking retard. I hope he loses everything and then some.

>>381944042
>1TB solid state drive
As long as you're blowing money on pointlessly extravagant shit, wanna send a few bucks my way?

>>381944607
Vega is not for gaming. It's for workstations. Don't even bother with it.

>>381944042
Just
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>>381944780
Just wondering, what is he doing that is illegal?

>>381923803
>people still mining imaginary monies

Didn't these retards learn anything from Bitcoin?

>>381944878
not true for the RX Vegas, you're thinking Frontier which is stupid expensive

>>381944956

No bitlaw license.

https://bitlegal.io/2015/07/03/us-state-level-digital-currency-law-regulation/

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>buy a 1070 for 400 dollars last week
>the card I bought is now $850

Holy fucking shit I got lucky

was saving up for a 1080ti should i just go for a 1080 instead? Just sold my RX 480 8G Gaymin X for 450

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>>381944101
>I was gonna get a 1060 too.
You and me brother, you and me.

>>381945157
>https://bitlegal.io/2015/07/03/us-state-level-digital-currency-law-regulation/
Oh, I didn't know about these.

That makes sense.

>>381923803
>People are mocking him
>The whole operation is even illegal
Ahahahahaha

>>381944856
Nope

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Shit. I have 2 1070s just sitting around. I can make some fucking bank off of a couple of retards. This week ain't so bad.

>>381944779
Do you really expected any better from a NEET shithole?

>>381944042
That fucking cooler holy fuck lol. You'll be hitting tmax with even a moderate OC.
I'd take off the 180hz monitor, the 4K one will get more use, trust me on it. If you want a secondary buy a normal 60hz IPS.

PSU is crap as I expected, NEX is even their old line, and had the 12v droop problem. Barracuda a shit, get Toshiba, WD kiked out hard. RAM is crap, Corsair uses shitty binned Hynix for everything.

If you're doing 4K gaming might as well do a 1700, it'll hit 60fps just fine. Otherwise I'd check if the board supports IOMMU, which will be nice once Microsoft goes full MS store restrictive and you'll have to sandbox Win10.

>>381929359
Nows a good time, with etherium crashing prices will be low.

>>381944101
>tfw you were planning to buy a 1060 to upgrade

At least there isn't much to upgrade for currently, anyway.

>>381925595
For reference, how much money a 1070 can mine per hour?

>>381944738
>It's not even real
And yet it's a 100 billion dollar industry

>>381944607
>he missed the PCG article
Indistinguishable performance compared to a Titan Xp at 4K

>>381945585
is that for the RX or for the stupid expensive Frontier

>>381945585
>want to buy one
>will be sold out in mere minutes thanks to minerfags and scalpers

>>381945446
Some of the other fringe boards are pretty good about not being a bunch of weirdos.

>>381945382
Miners don't buy nVidia cards. There might be some nocoiner retards willing to join ride, though.

Should I sell my MSI 1070?

>>381945157
That post seems to imply that NY law requires that if you are in the business of seller crypto to people as an investment you have to inform the of the risks like if you were investing in a stock. Mining itself isn't illegal. Unless I'm missing something he hasn't broken any law.

>>381945536
About three fiddy

>>381931948
Ethereum turned out to not be a meme crypto so everyones bugging out and trying to hop on the train.

I never understood what cryptocurrency is, what it's used for, or how to "mine" it

>>381945449
The two I really have trouble understanding is ram and psu(In terms of what to get that is), any recommendations? Also, in terms of monitors, I'm looking to get dual monitors, those just happened to be the ones I was interested in.

>My third world country still havent caught up with the retarded price hike
Sure, there is already a hefty markup because of importation prices, but a 1070 still the same price today as it was 7 months ago when i bought mine.

>>381945472
how do you suggest to start a wallet for a noob? Coinbase?

>>381944779
/biz/ is a containment board of /g/. it's not actually meant to talk about finances and entrepreneurship

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>>381922932
What the shit is going on, how the fuck is my Giga r9 290x more expensive than this. Did some ChingChong facility flood again or something?

>>381941098
But what if it gets legitimized and becomes a respected currency? You'd feel pretty stupid for not joining in and making free money.

>>381940605
biz is completely useless - actually going to biz is worse than useless. They not only don't have a goddamn clue about anything, they're full of scammers too.

It's a pain in the ass to get into cryptocurrencies for the average person, so while there was a huge uptick in people looking for some get rich quick, the demand side didn't follow because it's next to impossible for a normie to set up and buy cryptocoins. And the result is what we're now seeing: Massive drop in all currencies as the supply outstrips the demand.

They'll stabilize at some point - once miners give up and start selling off their cards and/or normies have an easier time getting into the marketplace.

>>381945574
Just like the TF2 economy.

>>381946259
Digital currency people can trade like money, based off a controlled economic system to carefully maintain the supply and hopefully increase value.

In some cases you use it to buy things, but most cryptocurrency transactions are essentially an investment deal. People get into it in the hopes its value to real dollars will rise so they can sell it for real money.

It's mined by having your pc perform complex calculations on the mining network, which is rewarded with the cryptocurrency.

It's essentially a giant jenga tower that could collapse at any point.

>>381946490
>T. Miner who is contemplating suicide

>>381946431
>mfw coinbase won't accept transactions in mootxico
Fucking weird. Means I have to run a VPN all fucking day.

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Sure glad I bought my 1070 last year.

>>381946447
Yeah, I get that now.

Still a bummer.

>>381946259
Cryptocurrency is digital currency. It's used for buying things, like any other currency, although like any paper currency, it's also speculated upon. The currency is "mined" by computer hardware, the creation of new currency requires computation of complex mathematics which is normally done on purpose built chips, or GPUs.

>>381945671
Was the Frontier but the RX is meant to be quicker in games. Probably higher clocks, doubled HBM stacks probably use 30~ watts more power.

>>381946042
When you're doing mass mining without a licence, its illegal.
It's exactly how you need certain regulations to farm, but growing a little tomato patch in your front yard won't have the authorities knocking on your doorstep.

>>381922932
This isn't the first time fake money fags have done this.

It's only a matter of time until the governments decide to clamp down and ruin them then prices will go down again.

>>381944779
People like you are few and far between.

Neets with no clue are all over the place. Board filled up with total retards before anyone who actually wants to talk finance and business could set up the board culture. It's total garbage now.

>>381946697
This is why I never saw cryptocurrency as a safe long term investment like some people think it is.

It's a currency governments and businesses don't control. That's just screaming for it to one day get smashed.

So the fuck what?

When it crashes the prices will bottom out and they'll be giving them awau at some point

Just don't buy GPUs right now and most shouldn't have to

If you didn't upgrade recently sucks to be you

>tfw mining Ethereum classic on RX 480 that I bought last year for $200.

Take that, gaymers.

>>381946906
How fast is the mining, how money you making?
Does it pay up the electricity used?

>>381946457
>Bought my card for roughly U$240.00 two years ago
>It's U$450.00 now
HANG ALL THE MINERS

>>381946583
Because that means you can't sell it?
How is that better if I were and AMD fag I would sell my card kinda mad I don't own a 480 now

>>381944780
It's even better than that

>Buys more GPU's than he can actually use
>Doesn't buy enough hardware (mobo's etc) to actually plug all the GPU's in
>Building he buys lease for doesn't have enough electricity to supply all the GPU's
>He needs a license in NY to do all of this in the first place and he doesn't have it
>Refuses to sell any of his GPU's for below retail prices

In three months this moron is going to be offloading all his GPU's for $100 each, if he's lucky. And he'll be proudly proclaiming he made $5,000 on his $45,000 investment (and lost $15,000 in the process, but he won't mention that part).

>>381947009
He's probably making around 45 cents a day.

>>381927771
not bad anon

Should I get a PNY 6GB 1060 for $258?

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>Muh fake money
Everything has value, especially anonymous currency. It's never going away.

>>381947009
Last I checked people are getting about $2 - $4 per day on ethereum. Although it's crashed, so who knows now.

Anyways if you're thinking of hopping on the bandwagon, it's too late. You have to get in BEFORE this shit hits mainstream press. As soon as you see something in a newspaper "LOL MINING CRYPTOCURRENCY EASY MONEY LOL LOL" that's when you know it's time to sell.

>>381947452
If you can wait a bit eventually the market is going to get flooded with used 480's. Sure the fans will be in horrible condition but if you can find them for $100 it won't matter.

>>381943250
but is that utilizing all of their gpu processing power 24/7? even if the guy with access to the computers scheduled it to run only after hours he could make a killing

Can you actually trade this one in a manner that doesn't involve money laundering, drugs or Magic the Gathering trading sites?

>>381947651
sapphire nitro 480 fans are replaceable, you can easily unscrew them
which is why they're noisier than previous sapphire gpus

>>381947452
Link?

I'm about to bite the bullet on a 3GB 1060 for $190

>>381947710
Yep. Now it's all yugioh trading sites, much more refined

>>381947640
Best time to buy is just slightly after the crash when prices of the coin are low as fuck. Buy ETH at say $100 or $50 and then hold on to it.

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When can we expect GPU prices to go back to normal if at all?

>>381947535
Tide detergent has an innate purpose, a string of numbers does not.

>>381947949
USD has no innate purpose yet that isn't going anywhere.

What's a good divestment of coins to get into? Like for my hundred burger vouchers, I'm assuming a healthy mix of btc, eth, ltc....? Maybe 25-25-20-...

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>>381925348
>Would you buy a car with 200K miles in it?
I did

>>381947902
When Vega and Volta release.

>>381947640
>Anyways if you're thinking of hopping on the bandwagon, it's too late
How the hell is that not different from a ponzi scheme?

>>381944995
They maybe learned that you can get in early and stock up then sell your portfolio of 200 Bitcoins for 750,000 USD.

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>>381947949
but anon

>>381923803
*secretly works for Xbox One X*

>>381948207
Not backed by gold, no real value

>>381947902
So, the thing about mining is, that it gets harder and harder to mine. Diminishing gains. Meanwhile, the cost of mining (electricity) is constant.
Therefore there will be a time when mining will only result in loss, unless you have someone else to pay for the electricity bills. When this time come, the gpu prices will drop.
I give a couple months.

>>381947949
Tide detergent is easily duplicated.
Cryptographically unique strings of numbers are not.

Anything that's rare and can be exchanged will by default become a fiat currency.
Better people store their off-shore money in digital monopoly money than buying up all the condos.

>>381948248
>action crap
get out and go back to gaia

>>381948281
I know, I was pointing out all a bill is, is a string of numbers

>>381947535
What do they use the Tide for? Making more drugs?

In the gold rush the people who really got rich were the ones selling mining equipment

I'm so glad I got my Asus GTX1060 before the prices exploded and went out of stock a week later. I really needed that one model for my white built and I already ordered every other part.

>>381948080
And when the fuck will that happen?

>>381923803
>muh economics, i'm an ENTREPRENEUR
I have nothing but contempt for these kinds of people.

>>381947949
Nothing has an innate value or purpose, you moron. It has the value people give it. People want cryptocurrency to be worth something, therefore it will.

>>381948281
>thinks gold has intrinsic value

Its a fiat currency like everything else, except its weaker because in addition to somebody offloading a ton of it you can also get fucked when a new vein is discovered or a new mine opens up.
Hell, Elon Musk will probably park an asteroid in LEO that's got more gold and platinum than the entire current global supply in the near future.

>>381948040
It's innate purpose is to serve as the official currency of the United States. Who's backing Ethereum? Do they have nukes?

>>381946657
damn you think it will be a watt hog? Especially with a decent Overclock?

>>381948140
Its not

>>381948140
How about you actually go and look up wtf a ponzi scheme is, or learn something about markets?

This shit has fuck-all in common with ponzi schemes.

>>381948614
>Do they have nukes?
worse
windows exploits

>>381948409
The ones targeted at miners, supposedly tomorrow right? I saw some buzz in the Linux media that they were coming on the 27th.

>>381941653
There was a lot of money to be made in it for several months straight. It was genuinely a sound investment for those that were smart. It was such a good investment that all of the idiots jumped in at the end.

>>381948632
Frontier has the doubled HBM stacks, RX will have more headroom for higher clocks. I don't expect higher than 300w TDP for an air cooled model. AMD usually comes well under rated TDP, actual consumption round 250w probably.

>>381948690
Vega is not targeted at miners

Mining cards are already going out from AMD. They're unused RX 480's and only have a DVI connector, nothing else. Retailing for something like $250 USD.

Newegg had some but they instantly sold out.

So you're telling me this 1080 Ti isn't worth $700?

>>381948976
There are Vega based ones on their way though.
Linux drivers are actually already in good shape since AMD have been submitting patches except strangely they haven't actually upstreamed any of the video out stuff yet which pisses off the Linux gaming crowd but I guess AMD knows their real market at this point.

>>381924542
Pffffthahahaha
It's a temporary crash. It'll be higher than it was in less than a month
Fucking nocoiners

How long until pricing and stock goes back to normal?

>>381948614
>It's innate purpose is to serve as the official currency of the United States
Literally no more valid than crypto's "innate purpose" of being a non-controlled currency. Whose "backing" fiat means nothing because it is nothing in the first place. Value on anything that can't be directly used is artificial in the first place, it only has the value people think it has because it has no actual real world use.

>>381949253
No, there are no vega mining cards, period

AMD is releasing Vega Frontier Edition tomorrow, this is an RX Vega without gaming drivers designed for computer work in business - same as Nvidia's Quadro's and Titan XP. They will retail for $1200 - $1800 USD depending on the version but they are NOT "mining" cards. They're not designed for mining. They're not sold for mining. They can be used for mining, but that's not the market AMD is targeting with them.

>>381923803
i would find this guys warehouse and rob everything he owns if i lived in america

>all those hyper jews with warehouses full of asics and rigs

prices (trust) would keep rising steadily if newfags bought into a little of the meme instead of a few going full monster choking

>>381949420
Sorry bud, it's not going up until demand increases or supply drops. Supply ain't dropping and demand ain't increasing, so enjoy your $50 ethereum coins in 3 weeks.

There are going to be some idiots mining at a loss without taking their electricity bills into consideration.

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it's ogre, xbox won brehs

test

>>381949609
t. retard that thought bitcoin was dead in 2012 after it crashed and it's price is 5000x higher now

>>381949442
You're walking a fine line between ideology and reality.

>>381949609
You are beyond retarded and have no understanding of crypto

How does one convert this electronic monopoly money into real money?

You know, the thing that make the fucking world go 'round?

>>381947776
A 3GB 1060 isn't a bad option but it won't get you as far as a 6GB one, nor will it last you as long.
Still just buy anything right now before miners eventually snatch them up.

>>381949773
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>mfw no games coming out in the near future that will require me to upgrade my gtx 950

>mfw in a few months the market will be flooded with cheap GPUs from foreclosed miners

>>381941980
>miners don't look for nVidia cards
>when nVidia cards are getting hit the hardest atm

ok

>>381926875
>1050
>ultra high
On 720p and below, maybe

>>381949912
I wouldn't want to buy one of these used cards, if they've been used in mining they'll have been running at full clock 24hrs a day for a long time.

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You can still buy cards for their normal price.
I don't know why everyone is freaking out.
I even saw a 1070 for $350 yesterday.