>Buy M&M 7 on GOG because everyone says its cool RPG >Keep

>>381911515
get bows. That's all I remember being stupid strong in the beginning

You should probably play MM6 first.
It's nearly identical in terms of gameplay, but if you play it after 7 it'll feel more outdated.

>>381911847

I actually once played a bit of 6 but stopped early on, after getting to second map or something. I wanted different start this time.

>>381911839

I did got two bows on starting characters, crossbows to be more precise. But I thought I will be using swords and such. And how to properly use casting? Is there even shortcut?

I must admit I cant really control, who would be acting right now, everything goes so fast... I wish it would be turn based instead.

>>381911515
welcome to 1999 scrub

>>381912751

C-can I enjoy the stay?

>>381911515
press enter and fight like that

>>381911515
First of all, everyone needs bows. You shoot shitters that have no ranged attacks in real-time, and then go for turn-based when they get close.

Second, you need at least 1 dedicated healer, and at least 1 wizard.

Third, kill goblins and complete the goblin fort quest first. Don't be afraid to run away and sleep/heal.

>>381914685
Wait a fucking minute, it's MM7.

Well, the general advice applies. You can complete the first island and even kill the goddamn dragon when you're level 1. Just food for thought.

>>381911515

it's not hard. you just have to slowly grind at the beginning. buy bows and fuck shit up

>>381914773
>kill the goddamn dragon when you're level 1
My nigga. All the sweet relics from savescumming at level 1.

>>381914415

this and go full Legolas on nearly every creature.

>HUD takes 50% of the screen

Its shit

>>381915147
>>381915045
>>381914773

So why Im even using knight, cleric and sorc?

My part is Knight/Archer/Cleric/Sorc right now, btw. Human/Elf/Dwarf/Elf by the way.

>>381912656
>I wish it would be turn based instead
There is a turn based mode. If I remember you press enter.

>But I thought I will be using swords and such.
You will, bows are only for the beginning while you're weak.

>>381916319
Are you retarded? Every class can use bows. Sorc runs out of mana eventually, and Cleric has almost no offensive power. The composition is pretty good, actually, so you shouldn't have any problems at all.

>>381916319
It's pretty good. Knights are pretty decent tanks and I think they can pretty much solo the game if geared right, Archers are mediocre but not terrible, the other two are pretty damn fine.
Just keep bows at level 1 for everyone but the archer, it's always useful to have them, specially early on so you don't get raped by fireflies.

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>>381916319

you tank with the knight and the cleric will save your ass a lot of times. basically, they can all use bows and be pretty efficient with it but to be honest, it doesn't even matter in the end when you get the ancient weapons. that's why people were pissed back in the days

>>381916319
Because later in the game, Magic provides so many opportunities that you want most of the Elemental and Self magics covered. The Archer can get up to Master Elemental magic which is fine since the Grand Master Elemental spells are very win more burst damage, but your Sorcerer will get important spells like Fly a whole class advancement earlier.

>>381916768
>that's why people were pissed back in the days
I thought it was fucking awesome.

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>>381916964

so many good memories, looking at them suffering, screaming, getting drunk or completely insane...

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>>381911515
I really wish more games had teleportation and fly spells.

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>>381916964

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>>381917278
New games are just too scripted to allow free movement everywhere.
Or they just care too much about muh balance.

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>>381911515
>>Keep dying to few dragonflies outside the town, missing every hit
you're making a big mistake.

It's not you who is supposed to die to dragonflies.

But the villagers.

Lead the dragonflies to the village.

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>>381917365
Tfw no games where you can wipe the entire map with a single spell.

MM7 is like the easiest one dude. I liked MM6 more because it was less linear and didn't start you off with free dragon loot.

>>381917707
I really enjoyed MM6, but somehow can't get myself to finish MM7. I even liked it. I started playing it about twice and always got bored around midway.

Idk how people can get into mm6 and onward. The rpg mechanics are pointless. Its all about grabbing bows and shooting stuff for the entirety of the game

Also the /vr/ HoMM/Might and Magic general has a pastebin full of tips and tricks for all the M&M games as well as a download link for them all.

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>>381917596
the highlights of my MM7 Good path playthrough were

>giving the dwarf cleric a waterbreathing potion and jumping onto water, which causes the rest of the party to drown while the cleric smugly laughs
>flying above Harmondale and shooting my loyal subjects with laser rifles

>>381918026
The endgame is really poorly done, it's rushed and it shows. MM8 is even worse in that regard.

Is it something bad for liking M&M X?

because I had lot of fun with it. I love turn-based rpgs.

>>381918245
>The endgame is really poorly done, it's rushed and it shows.

The way it ties in with the overall story of the series on the other hand was pretty awesome and mind-boggling considering that I loved playing MM3 as a kid and encountering its default party members again gave me a raging nostalgia-boner.

>>381918683
It's widely considered to be the worst of the M&M games, and for a good reason. I liked it too.

>>381918683
Well it base on Ubishit dumb non-sci-fi continuity instead of the original series continuity. So yes you should feel bad for liking it.

>>381918683
I really wanted to play it but didn't want to give ubikikes any of my shekels so I pirated it. The game took like 10 years to load to main menu and then another 10 years to load a save, so I gave up on it.

>>381918098
M&M6 has some of the best dungeon design ever created in a video game

M&M7 just has comfy exploration and decently balanced spamfest combat

M&M games are just comfort food, theyre not meant to be particularly engaging

>>381918683
It's fun, but could have been so much more.

>>381918917
B-but there was some scifi in the last room of the last dungeon.

>>381920184
Wait really. So if Ubishit know that the series is meant to have Sci-fi elements in the late game. Why do none of the other games in the Ubishit continuity have sci-fi elements. Dark Messiah would of been a 10/10 if it had ray guns near the end of it.

>>381920771
Heroes never had scifi in it, though, even the old games.
And MMX was on a shoestring budget, possibly the first thing they cut was having to make another set of weapons, monsters ,etc.

Any other tips for M&M 6-8 newcomer?

>>381921681
Bring bows.

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>>381911515
>M&M

So what makes the series stand out?

>>381919070
so everyone is still pretending 9 doesn't exist?

>>381921681
Give everyone lv1 learning. It only costs you a bit of money and the initial bonus is good even without any skill investment.

>>381921926
Along with Wizardry 8, they're the only games in existence with blob combat and NO tile movement.

>>381921681
Write down stuff you find, or you will have to rely on a guide.
Either on paper or just into a txt file.

Altars, obelisks, pedestals, where is the quest NPC for quests you picked up. Dungeons. Skill trainers, guilds.

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>>381921175
I think X lost the essence of Might & Magic and just wanted to capitalize on Grimrock's temporary success. Which is a shame because they apparently had major problems convincing Ubisoft to greenlight the game.

>>381911515
Jesus what is that? that looks like utter shit. And not in the meme way.

>>381921175
Heroes 3 was supposed to have scifi, but buyers got displeased.

>>381917278
>5d2
>2d3

This triggers me.

>>381922778
>his FLGS didn't have d2s and d3s

>>381922778
>He doesn't know how to roll a d6 and divide by 2 or 3

>>381922983
That's retarded. Fine for a video game, but for a tabletop game it's just needless bullshit. Should have just written it as 5-10 or 2-6 instead of trying to shoehorn in a dice system.

>>381922258

Not him but I really, really, really liked it. I love turn-based party-based RPGs, especially dungeon crawlers but those comes lately only on portable consoles.

Etrian Odyssey is cool but I wish there would be more games like this on PC.

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>Every dev alive only copies Wizardry 7 and forever ignores all advancements from W8

>>381923441

You mean the free movement in turn-phase?

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>>381921175
>Heroes never had scifi in it

That's not entirely true. The golem factory's industrial look hints at it, even if only mildly. Most of the scifi in MMs doesn't really look more drastic than this. The Forge on the other hand would have looked drastic even for MM.

>>381924067
>>381922517
Forge was canned, by the original developers.
Back then internet was much smaller and it wasn't that easy to get info about indev games and you didn't have social media for instant feedback, so you can hardly blame that on fan outrage.

>>381923263
>Etrian Odyssey is cool but I wish there would be more games like this on PC.

I still don't know why the genre died out in the west, but kept going strong in the east.

>>381923224
That doesn't give you an idea of how the probability curve breaks down.

>>381924535

East dont mind the grind I guess.

>>381924535
casuals, people wanting more romance and less gameplay

>>381924704
Well to be fair. All the JRPG developer were influnced by the Wizardry series. So of course they don't mind the grind.

>>381925545

At least nobody tried to recreate Wizardry 4. Oh boy, the Wizardry 4....

>>381926012
Didn't the japs make a remake of 4 on the ps1?

>>381924535
western rpg priorities shifted around and what people consider "golden age" of the genre aka infinity engine games were basically strategy/rpg hybrids. japanese industry and players just kept going on with what was popular and saw no reason to change it.

>>381926187

I guess they did but it was not that hardcore, if I recall correctly. Or they actually remade different game.

>>381926412
Yeah just check. 4 was skip when the series was ported to nes and snes but there is a port on ps1. I presume Japs didn't like Wizardry 4 either so it took a while for a port to come out.

What's the best M&M to start with homies? Isles Xeen or Man Date?

>>381927683
Depends what you want. M&M3 is the best place to start if you like grid base rpg. Or start with M&M6 if you prefer more freedom in your movement.

>>381917596
>need to wait for reasons
>oops party member ded

These games were great.

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Are you guys ready for a game that have been in developement for over 20 years?

>>381928829
no

>>381928829
I want to believe

>>381928829
Coming next friday?

>>381928829

Whats that?

>>381928829
Its not coming out

>>381931013
Grimoire Heralds of the Winged Exemplar a.k.a. Game of the Year 1996

>>381914146

No. Git gud.

>>381923618
HA-HAAAA

>>381911515

what game is this? it looks comfy.

>>381928829
The fucking baby voice in the trailer.
What was he thinking?

>>381923618
>>381933810

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-qxU0MJNhA

>>381933923
Might and magic VII nigga, it's pure art.

>>381934193

Where can you buy/play it?

Instead of trying to kill the dragonflies, lead them into town to kill everybody and loot the bodies and let the guards pick them off.

>>381934349

GOG.

>>381934349
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/8147594/Might_and_Magic_7_-_For_Blood_and_Honor_GoG
with this
https://sites.google.com/site/sergroj/mm#TOC-GrayFace-MM7-Patch-v2.0

Don't give anyone one cent, the devs and publishers are long gone.

Download the mouse look mod.
It makes it ten times more enjoyable.

Also try not to use Fly at all, it breaks the game balance.

>>381934442

Thanks, it looks obscure and extremely outdated and I've never known of its existence until now, but it looks fun and I want to play it. Only 2.99

Why is this the best one?

>>381934823
It's really old but mechanically it's surprisingly not very clunky.

>>381934823

Most peple call M&M 6 better but there is none of "best ones". M&M 6-8 are all very smilar in fact, running on same engine too.

M&M 4-5, combining into one game is actually the one that aged the best.