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>Billie only has one arm Does that mean Emily not saving

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>Billie only has one arm
Does that mean Emily not saving Stilton was canon?
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this mean you are playing shit game
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>>381895805
Billie has one arm throughout the entire game.
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>>381896472
If you knock out Stilton in the past Billie doesn't lose hers since she lost it while looking for him.
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>>381895805
I guess so
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>>381895805
There's some weird time warping shit going on with Dishonored 2 and the Dishonored comic that implies the Billie in the events of D2 and Billie in the next game aren't the same individuals at all. At least, time wise.

So yes and no.
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It also means Corvo throwing her corpse off a boat wasn't canon either
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Why the fuck did Corvo even spare Daud in the first fucking place after all the shit he pulled?
He had no reason to.
>hurr durr I'm sorry for killing your waifu
How is that even an excuse?
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>>381897285
Honor among magic wielding crazy assassins, I guess.
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>>381897285
He killed the people actually responsible for Jessamine's murder, and that Daud was simply a tool for the coup members to use. He was using his head, because he knew that Daud would do the same thing.

What baffles me the most is Daud sparing Billie.
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>>381895805
>you play as a literal black lesbian amputee
tumblr pls
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>>381898290
>Daud would do the same thing
No he wouldn't.
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>>381898290
>He killed the people actually responsible for Jessamine's murder
Except, you know, the guy that actually killed her
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>>381898290
Daud practically raised Billie. On top of that there was pretty much an implicit agreement between the two of them that she would one day kill and replace him once he lost his edge. She simply misjudged him.
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>>381897285
He was going for the low chaos run
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>>381898457
>Implying we can't play as based Dad.
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>>381895805
WE
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>>381898457
>Billie
>a lesbian

If she has feelings for anyone, it'd be Daud.
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>>381895805

Why would you make your main character black and force blacks into a game who didn't have any in the first place?

Nobody is going to buy this game.
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>>381898781
>Billie is bisexual[9] and, according to Harvey Smith, mostly attracted to women
Degenerate.
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>>381898670
>Corvo is an autist crawling around on the rooftops
>Whenever a guard casts a pitying gaze his way, he shouts "Fucking bullshit! You didn't see me! I reload! RELOAD!"
>The clearly uncomfortable guard sighs and plays along, acting like nothing happened
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The biggest question is.
Are we going to find out if Wyman is a he or a she?
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>>381898619
Killing people is Daud's job.

It was nothing personal. He was literally just a tool.
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>>381898867
Do you really not realize how marginal /pol/ is? Normal people don't chimp out about black people being in something. The game will probably sell pretty well.
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>>381895805
Is it true we have to play the black lesbian and don't even have the option to play Daud?
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>>381898457
why the fuck isn't she trans

fucking bigots
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>>381898457
She was in love with Sokolov dude.
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Who else here cant wait to play a strong independent lesbian black woman who don't need no man?

Fuck Daud and fuck white people
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>>381899053
I thought chimping out was what niggers do best?
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>>381898867
the lead designer made it clear that the only reason why the character is black, and why there was a female lead in Dishonored 2 was to pander to feminists. they even hired a feminist writer to work on the game.

Do not buy this game, do not support forced narratives down your throat.
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>>381899525
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>>381898867
Nobody buys Arkane titles anyway.

All of the blacks/spaniards in Dishonored were in Karnaca anyway. The Abbey head dude was black and Paolo was spanish. People in Dunwall found Corvo incredibly supicisous BECAUSE he clearly wasn't a white dude.
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>>381899518
>>381898874
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>>381895805

WE
WUZ
KANGS

Thank god this series failed after the first title. It's going full ubisoft.
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>>381898874
>mostly attracted to women
>'mostly.'

I mean, 4/10 times she's gonna have a craving for dick. Like most human beings. This is nothing new.
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>>381899579
Of course you do
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>>381898290
After he kills Jessamine Daud starts feeling the weight of those he killed, pretty sure it's canon that he didn't kill any of the major targets in the Knife of Dunwall/Brigmore dlc's

Killing witches shouldn't count as a bad thing imo, I understand not wanting to kill guards because some are just doing their job and aren't assholes, but why bother knocking out a witch? They'll just wake up and continue doing evil witch shit, they deserve death.
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>>381899925
You have to go
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>>381900016

>Make main character appeal to blacks
>Black people don't like to work

Someone, made an error.
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>>381900108
He probably killed Timish.

It wouldn't make sense for him not to.
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>>381899518
No she wasn't. It's just platonic friendship between two people who regret their pasts.
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>>381900112

Chart doesn't even show the time line when I first arrived though. If you don't like the truth, maybe you should be the one to go?

Expecting anyone on this website to be politically correct stands at the extreme opposite of why this place was created.
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>>381899525
Literally me
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>kill Billie
>bring her body to Sokolov just to see what happens
>Sokolov starts sobbing, crying and going Corvo why
>feel bad as fuck
I'm never doing that ever again.
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>>381900575
They also hired a feminist writer to work on Dishonored 2. probably the reason we have to play a black woman who is only a minor character that literally no one cares about instead of Daud.
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>>381900112
Here you go buddy, off you go.
Chop chop.
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>implying anyone cares about this laughable joke of a game
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>>381900108
The witches gain their powers through Delilah. Remove Delilah, remove the witches' powers. Though honestly, most of them were utter cunts and deserved to die anyway for what they did
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>>381901140
What you don't want to play a bisexual black woman? you racist or something white boy?
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>>381901140
What so laughable about it?
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I am more worried how will the closest thing to a god in the whole setting die, to a C-lister's machinations, without making the whole thing into a fucking disappointment.
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>>381901473
how fucking terrible it is?
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>>381901551
You don't know the true power of a strong bisexual black woman.
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>We're gonna kill the Outsider
>Outsider looks up with a why this expression
Is there an ending to spare him?
I'd rather kill Billie and Daud than killing the Outsider.
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>>381901551
Well he used to be a mortal so it should be possible
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>>381901551
>>381901724
This she'll kill the white god with her black powers and replace him as the black bisexual outsider, like it was meant to be until white people rewrote history to benefit them.
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>>381900981
Who cared about Daud before they made him playable?
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>>381901927
No you are forced to play the black woman. Daud does all the work and beats the outsider. but then Billie betrays him again and kills him and takes her place as the black bisexual outsider.
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>>381901984
I did
>think about stopping time and stealing his purse like that
>mfw
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>>381900575
>>381900981
There is nothing wrong with playing a black woman.
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Pol buttmad about yet another game after I guess getting bored of chimping out on far cry 5 kill all goy edition.
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>>381901927
Like seriously, the Outsider was a great char. And have always been natural.
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will this be last Dishonored game? I think there are no story directions after 2
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>>381901984
Are you implying people will suddenly care about strong black bisexual female when we get to play as her? even though we already know exactly what kind of person she is?
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>>381902474
1 and the Knife of Dunwall didn't have any either
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>>381900108
I think the canon way for Daud would be sneaking through everything unseen and killing the main target. Pretty sure it IS canon Daud killed (or attempted to kill) Delilah at the end of Brigmore. So it's likely Daud also killed quite a few witches since he had no reason to spare them.
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Thank god i can skip this. i dumped billie's body in the ocean anyway. rot in hell
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>>381898867
>>Why would you make your main character black and force blacks into a game who didn't have any in the first place?
because it's set in a different continent; fantasy Mediterranean, rather than fantasy England
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>>381898619
Daud isn't the GUY that killed her. He's the knife.
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>>381898867
You realise this isn't a new character?

You people need to stop using the word "forcing" for "having".
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>>381900981
>>381899742
you said that already so you can fuck off back to /pol/
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I hate forced diversity but for fuck's sake she is a pre-established characters and there's been niggers in the background of Dishonored already, it's fucking fine in this case

Fucking Corvo's a fantasy Italian for Christ's sake
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>>381904868
WE
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>>381904868
Do you realise now the sort of bullshit you're enabling by lending credence to this "forced" narrative?
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>>381904868
Except literally everyone would rather play Daud but they wont even give us the option and would rather force us to play a black bisexual woman
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>time fuckery means you can save her from getting her arm chopped off
>still a one armed bandit in the new game

Shit is going to get a little complex with all this time travel shit
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>>381901927
>Is there an ending to spare him?
Of coruse there is, it's Dishonored.
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>>381905256
>they wont even give us the option
What? I thought they'd do the same thing as with the main campaign when I saw the recent trailer where Daud tells Billie they're gonna do one last job.
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>>381905146
This is the only time a non-fantasy European is taking the center stage, and even then it's not on her own, Daud's a major component of it. As much as she's probably being thrown up there for brownie points before the franchise bites the dust, it could be far, far worse. At least she existed before, can be consistent with the story and world and isn't some brand new out of the blue mary sue. It's something, and more thought's put in than a lot of people forcing diversity. I'll be happy if she's an interesting, engaging character, because that's what actually matters.
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>>381901927
They won't get anywhere close to him.
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can't wait to pirate it
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What's up with second game anyway? I don't remember first one being as boring while playing stealth.
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>>381903794
>Daud isn't the GUY that killed her. He's the knife.
Yeah sure.
He is not a bad guy thought. You can totally empathise with him.
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>>381905602
How about this instead:

Straight white men are not the default and no less forced than any other character. There, now you can stop worrying about how well established and justified it is, which you literally only ever do for minority characters.
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>>381906001
If only it really worked that way, but it never will because we live in this world.

I just really Dishonored, man, I'm trying my best.
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Any Anon familiar with the comics can give a quick summary on why she has a robot arm and a magical glowing eye with time travel powers?

I will never understand why the hell they made goddamn Billie the focus rather than some of the side characters from the pub in the first game
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>>381906001
>games set in an european setting have white characters
really makes me think
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>>381906203
No, it always works that way. All you have to do to stop it being an issue is stop making an issue out of it.
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>>381906359
Point out Dunwall for me
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Is it just me or does game 2 has literally the same story as game 1?
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>>381906581
are you actually denying that Dishonored's setting is based on victorian era aesthetics and, by proxy, 18th and 19th century Britan, and thus, European culture?
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>>381906581
You won that argument bro, Dunwall is clearly not inspired by early industrial Europe. It's actually based on Africa in 17 century which is why it should have more black people
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>>381906776
>>381906869
It's a fantasy world, so they can determine the demographics.

Even then Victorian London was more diverse than you probably imagine.
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>>381906776
>>381906869
>>381907021
Oh yeah, and besides, the main thing is, it's one fucking character.
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>>381907021
>they can determine the demographics
Oh they can do anything, it's their game. I on the other hand can not buy it and call it a piece of shit.
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>>381897285
cuz mercy lol
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>>381904868
>>381904062

>>381904062
She was completely retconned by the feminist SJW they hired, and is the "star" of the completely awful fanfiction tumblr comic book series.

You're argument is built on pretending to be completely aware of the political intentions of nu-Arkane, despite the fact they've gone on the record of stating that their story and studio is completely politically motivated now.
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>>381907021
>It's a fantasy world, so they can determine the demographics.
yeah that's right
doesn't mean im gonna buy it though lol
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>>381906320
It's heavily implied Billie will have a bigger part to play if you use the heart on her.

>This one has a greater destiny, beyond Dunwall, beyond Karnaca.
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I don't get it.

Why did Delilah even come back for Dishonored 2? She was a shit character in Dishonored 1

Same thing for Billy. I'm pretty sure most people killed her. I sure as fuck did. Her twist made no sense at all.
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>>381907135
>>381907332
Yeah, sure, you can do whatever you want for whatever stupid racist reason you want, but don't try to justify it with your mental gymnastics because that's just insulting the intelligence of everyone involved.

>>381907301
>You're argument is built on pretending to be completely aware of the political intentions of nu-Arkane
I literally could not give less of a fuck about their political intentions. What, you'd be fine with putting in more black women, if only they weren't doing it intentionally? As if such things happen by accident? Give me a break.
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>>381907483
The only thing I can think of when I look at the game is "But why not Granny Rags?"
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>>381907570
I think we migh have an offended negro on our hands here, boys.
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>>381907570
>don't try to justify it
Do I really need to justify that she's a shit character who feels out of place in the world of the game? I don't feel like I do, that's self-evident. Wouldn't want to insult the intelligence of everyone here.
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>>381895805
>you get an opportunity to kill her both in Knife of Dunwall and in 2
>she gets her own DLC

SHE'S JUST NOT THAT INTERESTING
FUCK
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>>381895805
According to a developer, she actually starts Death of the Outsider with both arms, but then replaces it with the crazy shape-shifting arm early on. But I think there's also some alternate timeline stuff going on anyway.
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>>381907910
Yeah, we can all see that "shit character who feels out of place" is code for "black".
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>>381908076
>YOU HATE ME CUZ I'M BLACK!
Well we finally got to that point, great argument, buddy.
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>>381907570
the only one doing mental gymnastics here is you, you roody poo
billie is a shit character with nothing going for her. literally no one cares about billie.
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>>381908208
Well go on, prove me wrong. Show me how she's a forced SJW shit character without making any reference to her skin colour, gender, or sexuality.
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I'm pretty sure diversity ruined the game. The world just doesn't feel as coherent with all the americanism bullshit shoved into it. And the characters are even more bland now that you can pick an MC. Sad!
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Its a first person game
Does it really matter who you play as? You wont see her face anyway
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>>381908442
Be honest, do you like her as a character? Do you I really need to prove she's a bad character? Come on now. Come on. Come on.
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>>381907570
lol
i bet you think the reason people dont like meagan foster is because she's black
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>>381908541
The story does usually involve the main character, anon...
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>>381908721
Not really
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>>381908392
>>381908595
If your first point of criticism is how "forced" she is because she's a black woman and how everyone should be white then you're not talking about character or writing and I'm not going address that either.
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>>381908442
>to her skin colour, gender, or sexuality.

That's exactly what makes it SJW. If you've established a certain verisimilitude for a universe, then shove in things that break that verisimilitude based on certain identifiable characteristics that are being hamfistedly shoved into all media specifically because of identity-based political narratives, you have a character that doesn't fit because of the implicit associations that have been built by the industry.

Not our fault SJWs have fucking ruined everything for everyone by ensuring that the first thing people pay attention to is gender, race, and sexual proclivity. It literally wasn't a problem before they came along and started forcing it on everyone
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>>381908442
>show me how she's a forced sjw shit
>but dont mention any sjw shit
ok
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>>381908969
Right, so you can't prove me wrong. You're an idiot who gets triggered by a single minority character in a fantasy setting because he thinks he knows the setting better than the creators and you just know everyone should be white.
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>>381909168
I literally just did, but you're too stupid to understand.

Who is surprised by this?
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>>381909160
Yeah, go on. Should be easy because it's not like you were saying that because you just hate black people or women, so it must be something I overlooked.
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>>381899925
Actually it doesn't, besides DHII is a great improvement, with great levels and improved IA.

Now that you're proven that you didn't even bother to play them, it's time to pack your retard brain and go back to pol.
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>>381909354
Well, tell me what makes her a good character, or even remotely interesting.

That should prove my point well enough.
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>>381909273
I understand perfectly and I cut right through your bullshit.

For fuck's sake it's a previously established character so don't even start with your "established verisimilitude." She's not even the only non-white character either. You can sure notice someone's race or gender but being a racist or sexist about it still requires you to be a racist or sexist.
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>>381909645
Are you saying you can't tell me anything unrelated to her skin, gender, or sexuality?
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>>381909747
Are you saying you can't tell me why she's a good character and not forced in?
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>>381910302
You haven't mentioned a single thing you dislike other than that she's black, a woman, and bisexual, and that makes it "forced," which is a buzzword. If those are your openers you can't ask others to defend the writing when you haven't even touched it yourself. In fact I can say they're shit reasons without touching the writing either. Once we've established a baseline of human decency where we can expect people to have actual good reasons for the opinions they express, we could perhaps move on to discussing the actual game.
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>>381896591
>>381896472
Isn't this DLC a prequel to Dishonored 2? So you haven't done the Stilton mission at the time you play the DLC.
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>>381910734
Billie is an uncompelling character with a flawed character Introduction, and rushed story towards Corvo.

literally everyone would rather play as Daud who is one of the only other decent characters in this franchise apart from Corvo. but nope you are forced to play a strong independent black bisexual woman. i wonder if the hiring of a feminist writer has anything to do with it..
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>>381910734
Billie is literally a tumblr fanficiton timetraveling steampunk strong black lesbian who, after being retconned when they hired a bunch of feminist tumblrinas, is now the most important character in the Dishonored lore.

It's actually quite embarrassing, and it's sad to see Arkhane go from a studio devoted to making excellent games to a studio who is devoted to making a political statement.
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>>381911376
>but nope you are forced to play a strong independent black bisexual woman. i wonder if the hiring of a feminist writer has anything to do with it..
Oh, so close.
>>381911394
You, on the other hand, weren't even really trying, were you?
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>>381910734
Well, you see, if you can't come up with a reason why she's a good character, maybe, just maybe it's because she isn't. Right?
Really should give you cause to think.

But instead you just insist on throwing "you're just a racist!!!" at everyone who disagrees.
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>>381895805
the year doesn't have 15 months when is this supposed tocome out?
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>>381911509
Disprove anything I said if you're going to respond to me
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>>381911509
You realize the lead designer speaks with feminist frequency? hired a feminist writer to work on Dishonored 2 and basically said the only reason why they added Emily playable and why we are playing a black bisexual woman is to pander to feminists.

You can ignore it all you want but there's nothing wrong with being turned off by that. people do not want to support forcing a narrative into a game it doesn't belong in.
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>>381912023
If you're going to blatantly show me that you're a racist sexist, I'm obviously not going to take your opinion on a black female character seriously, no.

>>381912216
Why?

>>381912232
Again, I couldn't give less of a fuck. A playable character is not a "forced narrative". A "political agenda" of including more black women is only bad if you have something against black women.
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>>381911019
What would that change?
If she never lost it, she never lost it even before DH2.
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>>381912232
It's possible that they intended to shoehorn diversity, yet still ended up making a good character that's quite compelling.

At some point you still have to give some kind of argument as to what's actually meant to be wrong with the character, rather than just basing the whole thing on what people's intentions might have been
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>>381913176
> yet still ended up making a good character that's quite compelling.

Time Traveling

Steam Punk

Strong Womyn don't need no man lesbian

Secretly the most powerful character in the games universe


Literally fan-fiction tier
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>>381898867
>a game who didn't have any in the first place?
>hurr durr I don't know shit about the game but wherever i am i must also shitpost
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Dishonored 2 sold bad enough as it is. this dlc wont help, it should have been a continuation on Daud after Dishonored 1 dlc. but now we're forced to play a black bisexual woman character that no dishonored fans cared about in the first place.

Arkane need to stop shoehorning politics and diversity into their games this dlc was their chance but they blew it.
it's a shame dishonored 1 was great and Arkane had so much potential but i'll be glad to see them go out of business, developers need to learn.
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>>381914287
>it should have been a continuation on Daud after Dishonored 1 dlc
No it shouldn't. I am disgusted by Billie as much as the next guy but I'm disgusted that it shoves yet more Daud-centric plot into the damn game rather than whatever bar room politics this thread devolved into. Daud was a profoundly boring character who had less depth to him than bloody Trevor Pendleton or Admiral Havelock, and yet inexplicably him and his equally profoundly boring sidekick are getting two games' worth of content based on his profoundly boring redemption arc.
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>Outsider in Dishonored 1 was an emotionless chaotic neutral force that was bored with the world and humanity, so he gave random people powers to see what they would do with them. Doesn't care what happens but is shocked if Corvo subverts his expectations of humanity and appears to have a small change of heart. Implied to be a sea whale.

>Daud DLC
>Outsider for some reason cares about Emily and dislikes Daud even though he gave him the powers in the first place.

>Dishonored 2
>Outsider is a My Chemical Romance fanboy that explicitly wants to kill a witch. Judgemental of your morality. Also he was a human boy, lol.

>Dishonored 2 DLC
>THE OUTSIDER IS EVIL WE GOTTA KILL HIM

What a waste of a character.
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>>381915837
Just dont pay for Dishonored 2
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>>381915837
>Outsider in Dishonored 1 was an emotionless chaotic neutral force that was bored with the world and humanity, so he gave random people powers to see what they would do with them.
You're forgetting that in Overseer lore [which is never shown to be particularly incorrect, mind] he's also something of a malicious trickster, tempting deity that corrupts people and aspects of his power all have a very strong tendency to lead them to madness. He's hardly completely neutral.

>and appears to have a small change of heart.
No he doesn't.

And I'm thinking any cosmic deity would show interest in getting rid of a witch who managed to anchor herself to a part of his own power like a choking weed. The whole "I was once human" aspect of it is truly stupid but overall I consider his mannerisms in the second game to actually be an improvement over the first, where he came off not just as bored but also as very boring. In the second at least he's amused at the chance of having fun with interesting mortals again.
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People actually defend Dishonored here? Man, /v/ has became more cucked then I remember.
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>>381915837
>>381916629
Honestly part of him could have been human but part of him could also be magic whale
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>>381916959
Dishonored is considered bad now, or what does "cucked" mean in this context?
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>>381895805
Idk. I never played the second one because they never fixed it for pc.
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>>381895805
>15 months in a year
you wut mate?
how the fuck did they make such a mistake in the poster
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Why is /v/ so incredibly reactionary to anything other than white characters.
I bet 99% of you when playing the DLCs for Dishonored 1 already deemed it shit the moment when Billie took off her mask.

Dishonored 2 was fucking great, and I'll buy this day one too.
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>>381918747
It's a feminist calendar
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>>381919451
Jesus now this is pathetic.
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@381919584
(You)
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>>381919451
>this blatant shilling
dishonored 2 sold like shit. and they expect this dlc to sell well? looks like it will be the final nail in the coffin for the franchise.
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>>381920061
And I should care about sales why?
>>381919584
And hating on entire franchises/developers because an already established character gets their own game isn't pathetic?

Maybe some day you people can grow up and start hating games for legitimate reasons instead of this gamergate-tier reactionary garbage.
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>>381904868
It's more like dangling an OG like Daud infront of us in a pretty significant piece of content storywise but having us play as a C list background character to do so.
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>hear all the hype for the clockwork mansion
>apparently it's the greatest level ever
>pirate dishonored 2 to check it out
>enter the mansion
>this guy i never heard about starts talking to me
>we meet face to face
>apparently he recognizes me even though I literally heard his name for the first time 10 minutes ago
>taunts me throughout the level
>10 minutes later he's dead
>grab sokolov and walk out
>it all lasted 15 minutes
was that it?
the morphing areas were a neat idea but everything else about the level is shit
Lady Boyle's party still stands as the best mission in the series.
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>>381920514
>you can't hate a game for having a shitty main character when they're established

You're not even trying to hide you only like her because she's a minority.
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>>381920751
You can do that level in like 4 different ways, one of them being a way where Jindosh never even knew you were there.
I could boil down Lady Boyles mansion to simplistic shit just like you did
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>>381921045
>You're not even trying to hide you only like her because she's a minority.
When did I ever say that I liked her? I'm indifferent to her but because the new game will have her and Daud, I'm at least interested, not only because Dishonored 2 was fucking great.

Also
>You're not even trying to hide you only like her because she's a minority.
And you're not even trying to hide that you completely dismiss her, the game, the upcoming game, the series in general and even its developers simply because her skin color is black.

Grow the fuck up anon
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>>381921475
Dont argue with retards
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>>381922931
That can't be helped on /v/.
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